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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

« on: October 25, 2011, 11:01:15 AM »

Forget Texas, I think KU is the real reason MU is leaving. They never got over Lew kicking their a$$ for the Orange Bowl.  Then 2 yrs ago ISU beat them out for the Insight Bowl so they had to go to the Texas Bowl.  And last year they were in line for Alamo but got sent to Insight.  I think that is what has them chapped.  They never understood their fans just sucked traveling.  If they think the SEC Bowls are gonna like them when they go bowling somewhere every 3 of 10 yrs, they got an awakening coming then.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Morris Twins break out of handcuffs, almost out of Bill's grasp

« on: April 05, 2011, 12:38:07 PM »

Well Self never thought the kid had much between the ears. Just another young kid who believes he is better then he really is.   Being advised by a bunch of people who don't know what they are talking about.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Morris Twins break out of handcuffs, almost out of Bill's grasp

« on: April 05, 2011, 12:27:08 PM »

Very sad that some of these kids get sucked in by agents and their own "people". Selby needs Self/KU more the Self/KU needs Selby.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Historic Final Four this Weekend

« on: March 29, 2011, 08:34:35 PM »

You know what the absolute BEST part of Sayers' argument is?

It's that it would have COMPLETELY undermined KU's national championship had they made it that far.  LOL, they played no one to get there (but they didn't get there, obviously), would have played an 8 to get into the final game, and then played a 3 or a 4.    

Irrelevant. Like I said, a National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. 35 wins and a 7th consecutive conference title is a body of work. Even 11 losses in a big boy conference back in 88 was above average. I guess that kitty team wasn't that good that year?

And it's easy for SI to put a subtitle on a magazine cover from 20 years ago and for "PAGE 2" of espn to call it "cinderella" after the fact. I guess it fits the storyline of the day. But nobody was calling them that in 88. KU is never "Cinderella". KU is Goliath.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Historic Final Four this Weekend

« on: March 29, 2011, 08:12:07 PM »

I don't agree.  Something is wrong.  A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on.  A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.

Like Kansas as the 6 seed in the 1988 tournament?    Did you dudes still hang the banner?

As a #6 seed, KU had the fortune of not having to play the #1, #2, or #3 seeds in its regional.

I knew some basketball newbies would bring this up. In 1988 the Final Four included a Number 1 Seed  Arizona, a Number 1 Seed Oklahoma, a Number 2 Seed Duke and a Number 6 Seed Kansas.  It was called Danny and the Miracles but very few people called Kansas a Cinderella.

This year a 3, 4, 8 and 11 seed play in the Final Four.  Our 2011 National Champion will either be 9th ranked UConn, 11th ranked Kentucky or one of the teams they play in the finals in an 8th seed Butler and 11th seed VCU that were not ranked in the top 25.  

EVERYONE CALLED THEM CINDERELLA....THAT'S BASICALLY effING SYNONYMOUS WITH "MIRACLES," DUMBASS!  

Let me spell it out for those that just started watching basketball in the last few years. That's "Danny and" the Miracles. Miracles PLUS Danny DO NOT EQUAL Cinderellas.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Historic Final Four this Weekend

« on: March 29, 2011, 08:02:12 PM »

I don't agree.  Something is wrong.  A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on.  A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.

Like Kansas as the 6 seed in the 1988 tournament?    Did you dudes still hang the banner?

As a #6 seed, KU had the fortune of not having to play the #1, #2, or #3 seeds in its regional.

I knew some basketball newbies would bring this up. In 1988 the Final Four included a Number 1 Seed  Arizona, a Number 1 Seed Oklahoma, a Number 2 Seed Duke and a Number 6 Seed Kansas.  It was called Danny and the Miracles but very few people called Kansas a Cinderella.

This year a 3, 4, 8 and 11 seed play in the Final Four.  Our 2011 National Champion will either be 9th ranked UConn, 11th ranked Kentucky or one of the teams they play in the finals in an 8th seed Butler and 11th seed VCU that were not ranked in the top 25. 

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Being a 1 seed, Ku compared to UNC Duke and UK

« on: March 29, 2011, 07:02:53 PM »

its worth a discussion about a schools eliteness if its all been with one coach.

Exactly. Take away your best coach ever and your worst coach ever and that's who you are as a program. Duke doesn't make the cut.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Historic Final Four this Weekend

« on: March 29, 2011, 06:58:03 PM »

I don't agree.  Something is wrong.  A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on.  A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Being a 1 seed, Ku compared to UNC Duke and UK

« on: March 29, 2011, 12:22:51 PM »

I do not consider Duke a traditional power.  They emerged in the mid 80's.  They had a couple moments in 64 and 78 but not a traditional power.  The others are big schools who have been doing it well before 64 teams.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Hmm . . . only 23,000 empty seats for the "Border War" (beems bait thread)

« on: November 30, 2010, 11:51:31 AM »

The big thing most people are forgetting is MU never drew very well in Lawrence.  If you look at KU's all time best crowds, very, very few were with MU.  It doesn't matter where the game is played, if KU sucks, fans aren't going to show.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Hmm . . . only 23,000 empty seats for the "Border War" (beems bait thread)

« on: November 30, 2010, 10:56:11 AM »

BS.  If KU was heading to 10-2 and MU was having a down year, I bet many more butts would have been in seats Saturday.  MANY more.  It was MU fan who was the crappy fan Saturday.