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Title: It's Patterson!
Post by: slimz on January 01, 2011, 07:27:02 PM
Congrats to former* K-State head coach Gary Patterson and his TCU team for their Rose Bowl win.  Gary, it may have sucked the way things went down with K-State a couple of years ago, with Snyder butting in and all when you were set to come home, but at least you now have a bigger win on your resume than Snyder has or will ever have, and you didn't have to put up with his shadow over you to accomplish it.



* For about an hour.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 01, 2011, 07:29:41 PM
It was rough watching the postgame. :frown:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: PowercatPat on January 01, 2011, 07:30:22 PM
Thanks again Fitz.

 :cry:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Trim on January 01, 2011, 07:32:32 PM
Thanks again Fitz.

 :cry:

Haters hate.  Believers believe.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 01, 2011, 07:35:26 PM
Big shout out to Jon Wefald, still pulling down $150K a year from K-State.

Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: wabash909 on January 01, 2011, 07:45:51 PM
Oh, if FITZ had just done what he does best and "sat on the story" while Gary finished the season and notified his team and administration on the terms he wanted to after the bowl game...


Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: RTB on January 01, 2011, 07:57:47 PM
Congrats to former* K-State head coach Gary Patterson and his TCU team for their Rose Bowl win.  Gary, it may have sucked the way things went down with K-State a couple of years ago, with Snyder butting in and all when you were set to come home, but at least you now have a bigger win on your resume than Snyder has or will ever have, and you didn't have to put up with his shadow over you to accomplish it.

But I was told we were supposed to win the Natl' ship next season! Are you telling me this was a lie?! :bawl:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Rams on January 01, 2011, 08:22:35 PM
Please tell me you tards don't really believe Fitz had anything to do with Patterson not coming.

You can't be that rough ridin' stoopid...can you?
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 01, 2011, 08:24:46 PM
Oh okay Rams . . . tell us, why didn't Patterson come to K-State??

Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: steve dave on January 01, 2011, 08:27:22 PM
Kansas State athletics would be in amazing shape if Jon Wefald, LHC Bill Snyder and Tim Fitzgerald had all died about 7 years ago. The depressing thing is, all three are on death's doorstep. We were so close.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Rams on January 01, 2011, 08:40:46 PM
I have no earthly idea...probably because

A. He didn't want to coach here
B. The clowns that were running the show wanted OB
C. All of the above

Nobody...N.O.B.O.D.Y. turns down a job they really want because a fat, bald, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) dude breaks a story about it on his shitty website sooner than he wanted.  That's the dumbest rough ridin' theory on the planet.  Yeah, he was all set to come here...was excited about coaching his alma mater...negotiated a contract that would give him a big raise...convinced his wife it was the right thing for the family...started shopping for houses...and then BOOM!!! somebody writes a story about it before he wanted them to so he totally changes his plans and leaves a couple million over a few years on the table.  See how rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that sounds when you think it all the way through?

Is Fitz an idiot?  Absolutely...but he's not responsible for Patterson not taking the job.

I suspect that OB swooped in at the last second and Wefald pulled the trigger and told Patterson to go eff himself cause his old buddy was coming back...but what the hell do I know?  :dunno:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 01, 2011, 08:53:38 PM
Gee Rams do you think somebody may have been using Fitz??

Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: KSUTOMMY on January 01, 2011, 08:59:28 PM
Rams, it's pretty much common knowledge that Fitz mumped us out of GP, then the Weefer put the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) cherry on top when he dragged OBz back.

Was there ever a doubt?
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Pete on January 01, 2011, 09:06:38 PM
I suspect that OB swooped in at the last second and Wefald pulled the trigger and told Patterson to go eff himself cause his old buddy was coming back...but what the hell do I know?  :dunno:

Loads, I'd say.

That's actually pretty close to the insidery grumblings of the "true story."  However, there are also grumblings that the Fitz announcement accelerated the moving pieces and didn't allow for cooler heads to prevail...forcing one path instead of the other.  Also, at least one rumor I heard has it that one of Fitz's "sources" was Frank....which is hilarious if you have listened to Frank spin a recruiting yarn in person before.  The truth resides someplace between Fitz single handedly ruining us, and Krause being our hapless, would-be savior....but regardless of those conclusions it all still comes back to Wefald.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Katpappy on January 01, 2011, 09:13:26 PM
I have no earthly idea...probably because

A. He didn't want to coach here
B. The clowns that were running the show wanted OB
C. All of the above

Nobody...N.O.B.O.D.Y. turns down a job they really want because a fat, bald, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) dude breaks a story about it on his cacty website sooner than he wanted.  That's the dumbest effing theory on the planet.  Yeah, he was all set to come here...was excited about coaching his alma mater...negotiated a contract that would give him a big raise...convinced his wife it was the right thing for the family...started shopping for houses...and then BOOM!!! somebody writes a story about it before he wanted them to so he totally changes his plans and leaves a couple million over a few years on the table.  See how effing Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that sounds when you think it all the way through?

Is Fitz an idiot?  Absolutely...but he's not responsible for Patterson not taking the job.

I suspect that OB swooped in at the last second and Wefald pulled the trigger and told Patterson to go eff himself cause his old buddy was coming back...but what the hell do I know?  :dunno:

Tards don't like to hear common sense.  Makes too much sense.  Please don't post anymore... it scares the tards.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: ednksu on January 01, 2011, 09:14:12 PM
so does snyder have a personal beef with Patterson or does old ballz just want to play with his toys and no one else?
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Pete on January 01, 2011, 09:17:52 PM
so does snyder have a personal beef with Patterson or does old ballz just want to play with his toys and no one else?

I don't think Snyder could pick Patterson out of a lineup.   This was all about Wefald being terrified about rough ridin' up the Ron Prince hire and ruining his "legacy" and Snyder realizing that he had a chance to get back that which he wished he never gave up. 
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: BrotherDDay on January 01, 2011, 09:22:47 PM
I suspect that OB swooped in at the last second and Wefald pulled the trigger and told Patterson to go eff himself cause his old buddy was coming back...but what the hell do I know?  :dunno:

Loads, I'd say.

That's actually pretty close to the insidery grumblings of the "true story."  However, there are also grumblings that the Fitz announcement accelerated the moving pieces and didn't allow for cooler heads to prevail...forcing one path instead of the other.  

This isn't rocket science.  How often does a report come out  on November 7th announcing that a head coach is going to leave one program for another when his team has one regular season game remaining (after his team just had their biggest game of the season the previous night) and the school he is reportedly going to has three regular season games remaining?  Ummm, normally coaching moves occur, at the soonest, immediately after the regular season ends for coach and schools involved.  

If the above situation isn't jacked-up, then I don't know what is.  But, of course this did occur... and we know the actors involved...

Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Skipper44 on January 01, 2011, 09:32:21 PM
TCU actually lost that game eliminating them from any chance of a BCS game that year.

It is a fairly small leap of logic that Fitz had a source telling him "It's Patterson" and the only hold up is if TCU made the BCS he wanted to coach the BCS bowl game.  Once that was no longer an issue Fitz attempted to break the story.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Trim on January 01, 2011, 09:38:49 PM
Quote from: some hoodlum in So Long
You know what's not cool?  COSTING US GARY PATTERSON!!!

eff you TP for killing ksufans so I can't go and search for the exact words.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: BrotherDDay on January 01, 2011, 09:45:45 PM
TCU actually lost that game eliminating them from any chance of a BCS game that year.

It is a fairly small leap of logic that Fitz had a source telling him "It's Patterson" and the only hold up is if TCU made the BCS he wanted to coach the BCS bowl game.  Once that was no longer an issue Fitz attempted to break the story.

I forgot they lost the Utah, I stand corrected... again, when was the last time coaches changes are announced on November 7th?  It's jacked up cac regardless of being eliminated from BCS contention and trying to "break" the story.  I was  :bang: that afternoon, because it made no sense even before GP imploded on DFW radio... and before the "insidery" stories came to being.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: MadCat on January 01, 2011, 09:46:25 PM
Quote from: some hoodlum in So Long
You know what's not cool?  COSTING US GARY PATTERSON!!!

eff you TP for killing ksufans so I can't go and search for the exact words.

Not sure if this will help: Link (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:KkhPGTBrhucJ:www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php%3Ftopic%3D48648.175%3Bwap2+site:ksufans.com+costing+us+gary+patterson&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Trim on January 01, 2011, 09:50:51 PM
Quote from: some hoodlum in So Long
You know what's not cool?  COSTING US GARY PATTERSON!!!

eff you TP for killing ksufans so I can't go and search for the exact words.

Not sure if this will help: Link (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:KkhPGTBrhucJ:www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php%3Ftopic%3D48648.175%3Bwap2+site:ksufans.com+costing+us+gary+patterson&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

Damn, I've got a good memory.

Start a thread over in combofanning and post the idiot's guide to searching for old stuff on ksufans now that TP has taken it out back and killed it.  :combofan:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: The Whale on January 01, 2011, 10:00:48 PM
TCU actually lost that game eliminating them from any chance of a BCS game that year.

It is a fairly small leap of logic that Fitz had a source telling him "It's Patterson" and the only hold up is if TCU made the BCS he wanted to coach the BCS bowl game.  Once that was no longer an issue Fitz attempted to break the story.

I forgot they lost the Utah, I stand corrected... again, when was the last time coaches changes are announced on November 7th?  It's jacked up cac regardless of being eliminated from BCS contention and trying to "break" the story.  I was  :bang: that afternoon, because it made no sense even before GP imploded on DFW radio... and before the "insidery" stories came to being.

True, but not only did Fitz announce the "hiring", he had the contract details in the article. 
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: MadCat on January 01, 2011, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: some hoodlum in So Long
You know what's not cool?  COSTING US GARY PATTERSON!!!

eff you TP for killing ksufans so I can't go and search for the exact words.

Not sure if this will help: Link (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:KkhPGTBrhucJ:www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php%3Ftopic%3D48648.175%3Bwap2+site:ksufans.com+costing+us+gary+patterson&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

Damn, I've got a good memory.

Start a thread over in combofanning and post the idiot's guide to searching for old stuff on ksufans now that TP has taken it out back and killed it.  :combofan:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=9605.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=9605.0)
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: ELL3 on January 01, 2011, 10:11:03 PM
Congrats to former* K-State head coach Gary Patterson and his TCU team for their Rose Bowl win.  Gary, it may have sucked the way things went down with K-State a couple of years ago, with Snyder butting in and all when you were set to come home, but at least you now have a bigger win on your resume than Snyder has or will ever have, and you didn't have to put up with his shadow over you to accomplish it.



* For about an hour.

Snyder did beat an undefeated number one ranked team by 28 points and win the Big 12 title
More impressive than beating the number five ranked team in a bowl game
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Skipper44 on January 01, 2011, 10:26:40 PM
TCU actually lost that game eliminating them from any chance of a BCS game that year.

It is a fairly small leap of logic that Fitz had a source telling him "It's Patterson" and the only hold up is if TCU made the BCS he wanted to coach the BCS bowl game.  Once that was no longer an issue Fitz attempted to break the story.

I forgot they lost the Utah, I stand corrected... again, when was the last time coaches changes are announced on November 7th?  It's jacked up cac regardless of being eliminated from BCS contention and trying to "break" the story.  I was  :bang: that afternoon, because it made no sense even before GP imploded on DFW radio... and before the "insidery" stories came to being.

True, but not only did Fitz announce the "hiring", he had the contract details in the article. 

Isn't Vanier a part owner of gpc?  I am sure there were at least a couple of the biggest boosters that had discussions with the Mustachioed one.

Someday Jmart needs to give us the scoop - probably after OB retires but hopefully before we are in the Sunbelt.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: billyzabka on January 01, 2011, 11:05:39 PM
If not Patterson, how about Bumpass? 

This guy thinks so:  http://affiliate.kickapps.com/service/displayDiscussionThreads.kickAction?w=149225&as=47305&d=625034&widgetId=96363
 (http://affiliate.kickapps.com/service/displayDiscussionThreads.kickAction?w=149225&as=47305&d=625034&widgetId=96363)

Would at least be better than Cosh. . . (oh and the name! :love:)
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: slackcat on January 01, 2011, 11:24:07 PM
KStateo had it's moment in the sun, it's best time to figure how to keep AQ status when this Big 12/10 "thing" blows over.  Who in the frac would want to coach at a Missouri Valley school?...........nobody with any selfworth.  Should join the Big East pronto!    Do you hear that Curie!!

TCU has it figured out, KStateo doesn't.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 01, 2011, 11:49:08 PM
If not Patterson, how about Bumpass? 

This guy thinks so:  http://affiliate.kickapps.com/service/displayDiscussionThreads.kickAction?w=149225&as=47305&d=625034&widgetId=96363
 (http://affiliate.kickapps.com/service/displayDiscussionThreads.kickAction?w=149225&as=47305&d=625034&widgetId=96363)

Would at least be better than Cosh. . . (oh and the name! :love:)


that guy also thinks that it matters whether or not the current recruits being brought in matter enough to care about what they think about things. they don't.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Havs on January 02, 2011, 09:11:35 AM
http://plixi.com/p/67384647
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: "storm"nut on January 02, 2011, 10:04:05 AM
Oh, if FITZ had just done what he does best and "sat on the story" while Gary finished the season and notified his team and administration on the terms he wanted to after the bowl game...




Patterson was not happening for more than one reason It's Patterson, or Not.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: "storm"nut on January 02, 2011, 10:06:52 AM
Gee Rams do you think somebody may have been using Fitz??



Someone did but not for the reason you think
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Panjandrum on January 02, 2011, 10:12:22 AM
I suspect that OB swooped in at the last second and Wefald pulled the trigger and told Patterson to go eff himself cause his old buddy was coming back...but what the hell do I know?  :dunno:

Loads, I'd say.

That's actually pretty close to the insidery grumblings of the "true story."  However, there are also grumblings that the Fitz announcement accelerated the moving pieces and didn't allow for cooler heads to prevail...forcing one path instead of the other.  Also, at least one rumor I heard has it that one of Fitz's "sources" was Frank....which is hilarious if you have listened to Frank spin a recruiting yarn in person before.  The truth resides someplace between Fitz single handedly ruining us, and Krause being our hapless, would-be savior....but regardless of those conclusions it all still comes back to Wefald.

I'd say this is probably the most accurate summation.  The true villain in all of this is Wefald.  I've never spoken with him on the subject, but all of the tea leaves that you read say he was pretty much set up and only reported what he was told from someone high up.  I'm in the minority here, but I'm almost positive that he went to 'press' with word from either Krause or Jack Vanier, which is probably about as good as you're going to get, so I don't really fault Fitz for his sources.  I do fault him for the timing.  But that's a whole other thing I'm not going to get into.

I think it's pretty obvious from anyone that really followed this thing that the whole rough ridin' mess was Jon Wefald's fault.  He was the one that jammed Prince down our throats, he was the one that forced Weiser out (good or bad move is debatable) in favor of promoting a lackey to help promote his agenda, he knowingly approved all of those sweetheart deals (and I refuse to believe otherwise), and he found some way to eff up the Patterson deal by jamming Snyder back down our throats.

The day that piece of crap left Kansas State, I couldn't have been happier.  I know a lot of the tards, especially the old ones, will defend him and say how great he was for our university, but when you Gump your way into a great football program for about ten years, enrollments and donations will go up.  There were a lot of aesthetic things that are better about the school, and Hale library is very nice, but Schulz has shown more vision in one year than Wefald did in his last ten.  And he has shown a propensity to stay the eff out of the way when it comes to athletics.

All I could think about last night as I watched the Rose Bowl was how much I hated Jon Wefald.  I really can't think of any single person affiliated with this university that I despise more.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Panjandrum on January 02, 2011, 10:14:17 AM
Congrats to former* K-State head coach Gary Patterson and his TCU team for their Rose Bowl win.  Gary, it may have sucked the way things went down with K-State a couple of years ago, with Snyder butting in and all when you were set to come home, but at least you now have a bigger win on your resume than Snyder has or will ever have, and you didn't have to put up with his shadow over you to accomplish it.



* For about an hour.

Snyder did beat an undefeated number one ranked team by 28 points and win the Big 12 title
More impressive than beating the number five ranked team in a bowl game

I'd rather have a win in the rough ridin' Rose Bowl.

Are you serious?
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Pete on January 02, 2011, 10:17:21 AM
There are so many variables to all of this that it's impossible to KNOW anything, but the single thing that I am MOST confident in, is that Currie will NOT take the next coach selection lightly.  

Every cockamamie "in waiting" theory out there is fatally flawed, because it assumes that Currie is rough ridin' stupid.  He isn't.  He from the SEC, ,he's his own man....he's doing things that have NEVER been done around here with fund raising, marketing, etc.  You think he's going to let Old Balls and his stack of printed rough ridin' emails dictate a single facet of the future of this program?  eff NO.  And thank God for that.

I'm praying that the rumors are true that Old Balls actually MIGHT make a change on his staff for the first time in his life....that's enough impossibility for me to allow myself to entertain right now with this program.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: "storm"nut on January 02, 2011, 10:34:22 AM
There are so many variables to all of this that it's impossible to KNOW anything, but the single thing that I am MOST confident in, is that Currie will NOT take the next coach selection lightly.  

Every cockamamie "in waiting" theory out there is fatally flawed, because it assumes that Currie is rough ridin' stupid.  He isn't.  He from the SEC, ,he's his own man....he's doing things that have NEVER been done around here with fund raising, marketing, etc.  You think he's going to let Old Balls and his stack of printed rough ridin' emails dictate a single facet of the future of this program?  eff NO.  And thank God for that.

I'm praying that the rumors are true that Old Balls actually MIGHT make a change on his staff for the first time in his life....that's enough impossibility for me to allow myself to entertain right now with this program.

Word. Currie is a Pro, Krause was just a dumass
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: ednksu on January 02, 2011, 10:45:12 AM
some huge guns coming out in this thread making for some good bbs-ing.  I don't mean that in the usual goEMAW circle jerk kind of way either. 

Its interesting to see so many different stories about the Patterson debacle.  Take parts from every story and you can get a bit of the real picture.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Deez Nutz on January 02, 2011, 10:52:17 AM
Patterson still has relatives that live in Kansas.  According to them, he had accepted the job and was coming until we got Fitz Fracked. 
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Panjandrum on January 02, 2011, 10:58:24 AM
There are so many variables to all of this that it's impossible to KNOW anything, but the single thing that I am MOST confident in, is that Currie will NOT take the next coach selection lightly.  

Every crockamamie "in waiting" theory out there is fatally flawed, because it assumes that Currie is effing stupid.  He isn't.  He from the SEC, ,he's his own man....he's doing things that have NEVER been done around here with fund raising, marketing, etc.  You think he's going to let Old Balls and his stack of printed effing emails dictate a single facet of the future of this program?  eff NO.  And thank God for that.

I'm praying that the rumors are true that Old Balls actually MIGHT make a change on his staff for the first time in his life....that's enough impossibility for me to allow myself to entertain right now with this program.

My fear at this point is a power struggle between Currie, Snyder, and the big money shirt tucks that would accompany Snyder if it meant going straight to Hell with him and the program.

Like Weiser, I don't want to get to the point with Currie where he just looks at Snyder and his zombie army and says, "eff this.  I'm sick of dealing with your crap."  John Currie is a million times more important to the future of this university than LHC Bill Snyder is, and if it takes shitcanning Snyder to keep him, our idiot fans better show up at Vanier with pitchforks and force Snyder out of there.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 02, 2011, 11:03:12 AM
I seem to hear about Kirk Schulz about once a month.  When Weefs was in his heyday of running Wefald State University, his godam name was everywhere as he sought out every available spotlight.  Guess which one should be the norm for your U President?

How much is that dick still being paid?
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Panjandrum on January 02, 2011, 11:03:24 AM
Patterson still has relatives that live in Kansas.  According to them, he had accepted the job and was coming until we got Fitz shazbot!ed. 

I had heard the same until I spoke with a guy that spoke with relatives, and they said he never took the job and probably never would.

Now, it's hard to say what relative to believe over another, or who is right and who is wrong, but I was 100% sure of what you were telling me until I talked to him.

There is also the rumor out there that Patterson may be a TCU lifer because his wife is a big wig in Ft. Worth, and leaving there is going to take a very special situation.  It sounds like A&M is a very desirable job for them, but with Sherman finally figuring out how to win there, that job may not be an option.  And I don't think he has the personality for the bright lights of Austin, so I think there's a significant chance Patterson will be a TCU lifer and build them up.  Now that he's in an AQ conference, there's no good reason for him to go anywhere.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 02, 2011, 11:06:29 AM
Patterson still has relatives that live in Kansas.  According to them, he had accepted the job and was coming until we got Fitz shazbot!ed. 

I had heard the same until I spoke with a guy that spoke with relatives, and they said he never took the job and probably never would.

Now, it's hard to say what relative to believe over another, or who is right and who is wrong, but I was 100% sure of what you were telling me until I talked to him.

There is also the rumor out there that Patterson may be a TCU lifer because his wife is a big wig in Ft. Worth, and leaving there is going to take a very special situation.  It sounds like A&M is a very desirable job for them, but with Sherman finally figuring out how to win there, that job may not be an option.  And I don't think he has the personality for the bright lights of Austin, so I think there's a significant chance Patterson will be a TCU lifer and build them up.  Now that he's in an AQ conference, there's no good reason for him to go anywhere.

He is gone, too big a commodity now even if he were inclined to leave TCU.  Our shot at him died at the catsup splattered keyboard over at the Pumphouse.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: bubu54 on January 02, 2011, 11:15:35 AM
Some of you are idots....

Patterson was NEVER coming to K-State...Never

Whatever the reason the Fitz said what he said...I don't know

What I do know is the Patterson was NEVER...NEVER...coming
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 02, 2011, 11:17:36 AM
Some of you are idots....

Patterson was NEVER coming to K-State...Never

Whatever the reason the Fitz said what he said...I don't know

What I do know is the Patterson was NEVER...NEVER...coming

That's your opinion.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Deez Nutz on January 02, 2011, 11:18:11 AM
Some of you are idots....

Patterson was NEVER coming to K-State...Never

Whatever the reason the Fitz said what he said...I don't know

What I do know is the Patterson was NEVER...NEVER...coming

Gary?     :emawkid:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: wabash909 on January 02, 2011, 11:22:56 AM
From the people I have spoken with that I trust:

Patterson had accepted the job.

FITZ's report was accurate in which he outlined the contract details that were provided by his agent.  Go back and read it.  This wasn't conjecture or speculation.  These were hard details being reported.

What infuriated Gary is that the story became public, against his wishes, before he had the opportunity to personally notify the TCU administration, who is extremely close with, his staff and his players who were all preparing for their biggest, most important game of the season and subsequent bowl game.

The story backed him into a corner, compromised his integrity, and essentially railroaded the process that he wanted to unfold on his terms.

There was also meddling by Wefald in the 11th hour that complicated the situation.





Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: bubu54 on January 02, 2011, 11:27:42 AM
No not my opinion...It's what I know..
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Panjandrum on January 02, 2011, 11:32:37 AM
From the people I have spoken with that I trust:

Patterson had accepted the job.

FITZ's report was accurate in which he outlined the contract details that were provided by his agent.  Go back and read it.  This wasn't conjecture or speculation.  These were hard details being reported.

What infuriated Gary is that the story became public, against his wishes, before he had the opportunity to personally notify the TCU administration, who is extremely close with, his staff and his players who were all preparing for their biggest, most important game of the season and subsequent bowl game.

The story backed him into a corner, compromised his integrity, and essentially railroaded the process that he wanted to unfold on his terms.

There was also meddling by Wefald in the 11th hour that complicated the situation.


I will firmly believe that Fitz's report was ultimately too detailed to simply be conjecture.  At the very least, a proposal had been drawn up and was out there to review.

The other variable out that that no one's talking about is the fact that Gary Patterson is kind of an anti-social misanthrope.  Listening to him deal with the media is painful.  He's like a less funny LHC Bill Snyder.  I'm in the camp of, "There was more to the story than Fitz jumping the gun," but at the same time, Patterson is such a hothead and nut that I have no doubt that it played a part.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: CHONGS on January 02, 2011, 11:34:44 AM
I don't think Patterson was ever serious about coming here.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: CNS on January 02, 2011, 11:36:07 AM
No not my opinion...It's what I know..

friend of, or related to?
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 02, 2011, 11:40:28 AM
I don't think Patterson was ever serious about coming here.

i've come over to this side of thinking as well. if patterson really wanted the job but just wanted to keep things quiet for a little while, then he should've told his lawyer to stop blabbing to anyone willing to listen that a deal was being worked out. he didn't and he got a nice new contract to stay at tcu. good for him.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 02, 2011, 11:40:55 AM
No not my opinion...It's what I know..

Nope.   I know otherwise.  Sorry, you are wrong this time.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: bubu54 on January 02, 2011, 01:09:42 PM
Limestone..how do come up with your stage name?
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: j rake on January 02, 2011, 01:29:01 PM
Maryland just got LEACH'D.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: ednksu on January 02, 2011, 01:33:38 PM
Maryland just got LEACH'D.
to add
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-01-02/maryland-picks-uconns-randy-edsall-as-next-coach
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Rams on January 02, 2011, 01:51:23 PM
There are so many variables to all of this that it's impossible to KNOW anything, but the single thing that I am MOST confident in, is that Currie will NOT take the next coach selection lightly.  

Every cockamamie "in waiting" theory out there is fatally flawed, because it assumes that Currie is rough ridin' stupid.  He isn't.  He from the SEC, ,he's his own man....he's doing things that have NEVER been done around here with fund raising, marketing, etc.  You think he's going to let Old Balls and his stack of printed rough ridin' emails dictate a single facet of the future of this program?  eff NO.  And thank God for that.

I'm praying that the rumors are true that Old Balls actually MIGHT make a change on his staff for the first time in his life....that's enough impossibility for me to allow myself to entertain right now with this program.
This right here is what gives me hope for the future.  :ksu:

Now can we please, for love of everything holy, stop perpetuating the stupid myth that a website owner was responsible for a major college coach changing his mind about a job he really wanted.  This is a favorite talking point of the squaks.  When they do it, it's funny because it show how out of touch with reality they are.  When we do it it's just rough ridin' depressing.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: 0.42 on January 02, 2011, 01:54:16 PM
Maryland just got LEACH'D.
to add
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-01-02/maryland-picks-uconns-randy-edsall-as-next-coach

That's an extremely underwhelming hire. I'm sure he'll get them back to consistent 8-4, 9-3 seasons, but the dude doesn't seem like someone that will take the 'Terps to ACC titles.

Also, Pan, your rant on Wefald had me fist-pumping the whole way. We desperately need to keep Schulz around if we want the K-State 2025 initiative to get even close to reality. Wefald's good-ol-boy politics kept K-State from becoming a better school in both academics and athletics, and Schulz is just starting to undo the damage on the academic end. We need to throw buckets of money at both him and Currie to keep them around.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Pete on January 02, 2011, 01:57:41 PM
There are so many variables to all of this that it's impossible to KNOW anything, but the single thing that I am MOST confident in, is that Currie will NOT take the next coach selection lightly.  

Every crockamamie "in waiting" theory out there is fatally flawed, because it assumes that Currie is effing stupid.  He isn't.  He from the SEC, ,he's his own man....he's doing things that have NEVER been done around here with fund raising, marketing, etc.  You think he's going to let Old Balls and his stack of printed effing emails dictate a single facet of the future of this program?  eff NO.  And thank God for that.

I'm praying that the rumors are true that Old Balls actually MIGHT make a change on his staff for the first time in his life....that's enough impossibility for me to allow myself to entertain right now with this program.
This right here is what gives me hope for the future.  :ksu:

Now can we please, for love of everything holy, stop perpetuating the stupid myth that a website owner was responsible for a major college coach changing his mind about a job he really wanted.  This is a favorite talking point of the squaks.  When they do it, it's funny because it show how out of touch with reality they are.  When we do it it's just effing depressing.

Actually, I DO think Fitz played a very large role in our inability to acquire Patterson.  I think it helped cost us an opportunity to attempt to acquire him....because I believe it pushed Wefald to move too quickly......soooooo, don't infer from the above that Fitz should be absolved of any and all wrong doing.   Again, I believe there were many factors, but Fitz IMO, was certainly one.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 02, 2011, 02:28:41 PM
UPKS is best buds with ADJC . . . they aren't going to cave to the rich shirt tucks unless the rich shirt tucks promise to pay unholy amounts of money towards UPKS and ADJC desired facilities projects for athletics.

Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: CNS on January 02, 2011, 02:47:03 PM
So, we could still get Leach right?
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 02, 2011, 02:51:48 PM
So, we could still get Leach right?

yep. currie should fly to florida or wherever leach is at, work out a deal to pay him really well with poison type stuff if he leaves early. let snyder know he is done and then boom. football is fun again.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 02, 2011, 02:52:04 PM
So, we could still get Leach right?

I think it's obvious that he told Maryland to go shazbot! themselves because he was holding out for OB dying soon.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 02, 2011, 02:53:08 PM
Limestone..how do come up with your stage name?

It's commanche indian.

Yours?
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: wiley on January 02, 2011, 03:29:05 PM
No not my opinion...It's what I know..

I know 2 people who saw the contract and where/how they got access to it (not Fitz, though I'm fairly certain he saw it too).  NOT going into details, but it was legit.   Don't care what Gary told his friends or family after the fact, he was coming until Wefald pulled the plug.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 02, 2011, 08:40:34 PM
Patterson was coming, the news leak complicated it, but Wefald pulled the plug and directed Krause to hire Snyder.   This is a FACT.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Katpappy on January 02, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
No not my opinion...It's what I know..

I know 2 people who saw the contract and where/how they got access to it (not Fitz, though I'm fairly certain he saw it too).  NOT going into details, but it was legit.   Don't care what Gary told his friends or family after the fact, he was coming until Wefald pulled the plug.

The facts, just the facts.  Thx.  :cheers:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: MadCat on January 02, 2011, 10:37:17 PM
I'll believe it if captaincrap can confirm it.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: KSUTOMMY on January 02, 2011, 11:23:51 PM
En route to the Baylor disaster this yr, a friend asked me if I'd heard about what happened with GP and KSU. I played like I didn't know crap and he told me the entire story, but that he'd heard this info through some coaching tree down here in TX. I believe that GP was going to come here, but all the Busch Leaguers involved mumped crap up.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Lacey on January 02, 2011, 11:28:09 PM
En route to the Baylor disaster this yr, a friend asked me if I'd heard about what happened with GP and KSU. I played like I didn't know crap and he told me the entire story, but that he'd heard this info through some coaching tree down here in TX. I believe that GP was going to come here, but all the Busch Leaguers involved mumped crap up.

I know this guy in Texas who told me that Gary Patterson was going to come to KSU, but then some amateurs mumped it up.  True story.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: bubu54 on January 03, 2011, 08:35:24 AM
Just like yours....made up...
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: asava on January 03, 2011, 09:15:19 AM
i heard this one story that GP was gonna come here. How do I know? GP told me himself. Got him wasted one night in Dallas. Spilled everything. He even said he would still come here if we weren't retards about it. Says he likes Currie a lot and loves Manhattan!
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: CNS on January 03, 2011, 09:21:29 AM
if we weren't retards about it.

Not possible
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: ednksu on January 03, 2011, 09:23:23 AM
i heard this one story that GP was gonna come here. How do I know? GP told me himself. Got him wasted one night in Dallas. Spilled everything. He even said he would still come here if we weren't retards about it. Says he likes Currie a lot and loves Manhattan!
jfc you should preformed any sexual favor he wanted in order to make that happen. 
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: asava on January 03, 2011, 09:37:40 AM
i heard this one story that GP was gonna come here. How do I know? GP told me himself. Got him wasted one night in Dallas. Spilled everything. He even said he would still come here if we weren't retards about it. Says he likes Currie a lot and loves Manhattan!
jfc you should preformed any sexual favor he wanted in order to make that happen. 

i dont kiss and tell.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: j-von on June 04, 2011, 01:53:31 PM
From GoPo

"GARY PATTERSON SPOTTED AT VANIER

I just ran into him at the football complex!!! What's going on???"
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: hemmy on June 04, 2011, 01:55:05 PM
Sean Snyder called him for advice on becoming a head coach
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: wetwillie on June 04, 2011, 01:57:05 PM
Relax guys it is saturday, I'm sure we will hear something monday
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: 5601js on June 04, 2011, 02:21:22 PM
Patterson is getting caught up on all the Jim Leavitt rumors from months ago and is interested in finding out why the hell he wasn't the rumored one?
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: CNS on June 04, 2011, 02:48:25 PM
Short fat guys with glasses are giving tards fits.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: pike on June 04, 2011, 02:52:39 PM
DON'T eff IT UP THIS TIME GUYS!!!   :shakesfist:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: steve dave on June 04, 2011, 04:27:31 PM
WILL TAKE!
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 04, 2011, 04:32:24 PM
Probably giving Cosh a few pointers.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: steve dave on June 04, 2011, 04:33:39 PM
Probably giving Cosh a few pointers.

our guys visited TCU awhile back to watch them work so maybe
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: steve dave on June 04, 2011, 04:34:53 PM
Quote from:  sean
DAD! MAKE HIM LEAVE!
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: joda on June 04, 2011, 08:43:56 PM
Probably giving Cosh a few pointers.

 :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:

Though would take even more
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Trim on June 04, 2011, 08:45:37 PM
http://www.kstateacacia.org/#!__recent-news
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Panjandrum on June 04, 2011, 08:45:46 PM
Probably giving Cosh a few pointers.

 :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:

Though would take even more

It would be a waste of time trying to teach Cosh anything.  He's only had 20+ years of experience to not be a shitty football coach, and unfortunately, nothing thus far has resolved that issue.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: pike on June 04, 2011, 08:48:20 PM
http://www.kstateacacia.org/#!__recent-news

God....damnit.....
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: wetwillie on June 04, 2011, 08:50:26 PM
http://www.kstateacacia.org/#!__recent-news

 :nerd:  :lol:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: jtksu on June 04, 2011, 09:04:54 PM
Trim is an Acacia?!  Figures.  :lol:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Trim on June 04, 2011, 09:12:28 PM
Trim is an Acacia?!  Figures.  :lol:

Yep, and as you can see by the links I post, I'm also an ou bbs'r, the producer of ku's "The Gridiron", a marketer of Tulsa hotel deals (mods only) and the distributor of the nike nipple stripe shirts to football coaches across the country.  And those are just roles I've held in the last few days.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: steve dave on June 04, 2011, 09:17:17 PM
Trim is an Acacia?!  Figures.  :lol:

Yep, and as you can see by the links I post, I'm also an ou bbs'r, the producer of ku's "The Gridiron", a marketer of Tulsa hotel deals (mods only) and the distributor of the nike nipple stripe shirts to football coaches across the country.  And those are just roles I've held in the last few days.

lol
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: jtksu on June 04, 2011, 09:35:11 PM
Acacian outed!
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Trim on June 04, 2011, 09:40:21 PM
Would the other juggalos chip in on a shared wabash password?
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Pett on June 04, 2011, 10:32:03 PM
WILL TAKE!

Got the 3d turf down in time. How ya like that Gary? :gocho:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: MichiganisGood on June 04, 2011, 11:04:29 PM
Trim is an Acacia?!  Figures.  :lol:

Yep, and as you can see by the links I post, I'm also an ou bbs'r, the producer of ku's "The Gridiron", a marketer of Tulsa hotel deals (mods only) and the distributor of the nike nipple stripe shirts to football coaches across the country.  And those are just roles I've held in the last few days.

Performance Stripes !!!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Trim on June 04, 2011, 11:05:08 PM
Trim is an Acacia?!  Figures.  :lol:

Yep, and as you can see by the links I post, I'm also an ou bbs'r, the producer of ku's "The Gridiron", a marketer of Tulsa hotel deals (mods only) and the distributor of the nike nipple stripe shirts to football coaches across the country.  And those are just roles I've held in the last few days.

Performance Stripes !!!  :shakesfist:

I'm using industry terminology.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 04, 2011, 11:10:30 PM
If you have twitter, you need to look up @stevedaveKSU's tweets over the past half an hour regarding #pattersoninvanier. Brilliant.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: MichiganisGood on June 04, 2011, 11:26:17 PM
Anyway, reading this thread, it's interesting because we have this exact same 'theory' in regards to our coaching search of 07..

Before the SEC championship Herbstreit announced that we had hired Les Miles from LSU live on College Gameday.. Well that led to LSU announcing a press conference later that day and Les saying how he was planning on staying and coaching LSU in the NC game (and a week later a big extension and us hiring Rich Rod)..

The story goes that we had all but hired Miles (had a contract agreed upon in principle and it was basically a done deal for the next day) but Herbie who apparently found out through Desmond (fellow CollegeGamday'er and a member of the Search Committee) went public with before everyone wanted it to be public to sabotage us and ruin it or whatever.. Very similar to your situation, though I tend to think our story at least is exaggerated or just plain bullshit..


Speaking of which, you guys should totally hire Rich Rod, he doesn't suck nearly as bad as we made it seem, and I think he'd be perfect for a place like KSU..
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: steve dave on June 04, 2011, 11:29:03 PM
Anyway, reading this thread, it's interesting because we have this exact same 'theory' in regards to our coaching search of 07..

Before the SEC championship Herbstreit announced that we had hired Les Miles from LSU live on College Gameday.. Well that led to LSU announcing a press conference later that day and Les saying how he was planning on staying and coaching LSU in the NC game (and a week later a big extension and us hiring Rich Rod)..

The story goes that we had all but hired Miles (had a contract agreed upon in principle and it was basically a done deal for the next day) but Herbie who apparently found out through Desmond (fellow CollegeGamday'er and a member of the Search Committee) went public with before everyone wanted it to be public to sabotage us and ruin it or whatever.. Very similar to your situation, though I tend to think our story at least is exaggerated or just plain bullshit..


Speaking of which, you guys should totally hire Rich Rod, he doesn't suck nearly as bad as we made it seem, and I think he'd be perfect for a place like KSU..

HOLY crap I KNOW! 
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: wetwillie on June 04, 2011, 11:29:33 PM
Desmond fitzgerald has a nice ring to it
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: jtksu on June 04, 2011, 11:31:24 PM
I think we're all in agreement that RR would be a fantastic hire.  (So long as Patterson is still mad at us.  :shakesfitz:)
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 04, 2011, 11:34:51 PM
Anyway, reading this thread, it's interesting because we have this exact same 'theory' in regards to our coaching search of 07..

Before the SEC championship Herbstreit announced that we had hired Les Miles from LSU live on College Gameday.. Well that led to LSU announcing a press conference later that day and Les saying how he was planning on staying and coaching LSU in the NC game (and a week later a big extension and us hiring Rich Rod)..

The story goes that we had all but hired Miles (had a contract agreed upon in principle and it was basically a done deal for the next day) but Herbie who apparently found out through Desmond (fellow CollegeGamday'er and a member of the Search Committee) went public with before everyone wanted it to be public to sabotage us and ruin it or whatever.. Very similar to your situation, though I tend to think our story at least is exaggerated or just plain bullshit..


Speaking of which, you guys should totally hire Rich Rod, he doesn't suck nearly as bad as we made it seem, and I think he'd be perfect for a place like KSU..

Sometimes it's unbelievable how well you fit in around here.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: MichiganisGood on June 05, 2011, 12:06:17 AM
I think we're all in agreement that RR would be a fantastic hire.  (So long as Patterson is still mad at us.  :shakesfitz:)

He really could of won at UofM but we kind of sabotaged him right from the jump.. All of our former players and 'Bo' guys wanted Miles but Lloyd did NOT (because  he got 5* Jai Eugene to decommit and commit to LSU by telling him Lloyd had Parkinsons disease :lol:) so Bill Martin settled on Rich Rod.. Well right away everyone hated him because he wasn't Miles and Lloyd hated him too (some compromise).. So as soon as it's announced our whole team (with pressure from Lloyd and the rest of the current staff) pretty much transfers or declares early for the NFL (Ryan Mallett, Justin Boren, Mario Manningham, Adrian Arrington, Alex Mitchell, and a slew of guys you've probably never heard of).. That compounded by the fact that Lloyd really stopped recruiting after the 05 season, left us pretty much with a roster full of crap, and then we were switching from super pro style never used shotgun in a decade type offense to the freaking spread option..

So right off the bat RR has to go out and recruit a bunch of guys to fit that offensive system, so he pretty much has to spend the first 2 classes on offensive players.. We have a rough ridin' walk on starting at QB for us in 08 at Michigan !! There is literally nobody left from the Carr regime players or coaches they all bailed.. So we got walk ons and Freshman/Sophs for the first 2 years and we suck.. Understandable, but it's Michigan and you can't suck no matter what the circumstances were surrounding it, so the people who hated RR from the jump really hate him now and the internal struggle just intensifies, so much so that our own people turn him into the NCAA for not properly filling out his CARA forms which log practice hours..

Year 3 rolls around and Denard becomes the starter and we finally get to see his offense and it's awesome, were pretty much unstoppable on O.. However, our defense is awful because we can't hire a decent defensive coordinator because nobody wants to attach themselves to RR when he is getting ZERO support, and we had to spend our first two classes recruiting offensive guys to run that offense.. Not to mention we sabotaged his recruiting from the jump, RR likes Juco's, well you can't get JUCO's into UofM, so that's understandable at least, but after his first class we started turning away a bunch of guys who actually qualified but were turned away by admissions because they deemed they weren't 'academically successful enough".. It just so happened that these were all 4* defensive recruits who all (except for Demar Dorsey) went onto play at other D1 schools with no issues..

Clearly, he made some mistakes and wasn't a good 'fit' but we basically sabotaged his Michigan career from the jump because he wasn't a Bo disciple.. It sucks because I really thought he could of won big here and we were starting to see that last year when he finally got his offense in place, but I was ready for him to go because it was obvious at that point it was never going to happen for him here..

I think he'd be great at KSU where there isn't nearly as much media scrutiny, and he can get JUCO's and guys from the south who aren't exactly scholars into school with no issue.. 
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: steve dave on June 05, 2011, 12:12:32 AM
wow, good stuff MIG.  the fact that RR isn't our coach this very second kind of infuriates me (assuming he would take the job).  I think we set up pretty nicely for next season under a RR offense fwiw.  I know john currie reads the board so that's out there.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: jtksu on June 05, 2011, 12:16:15 AM
Sams running the RR offense!  :love:
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: steve dave on June 05, 2011, 12:17:04 AM
Sams running the RR offense!  :love:

emawboner
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Panjandrum on June 05, 2011, 12:20:25 AM
I think he'd be great at KSU where there isn't nearly as much media scrutiny, and he can get JUCO's and guys from the south who aren't exactly scholars into school with no issue.. 

He would be a fantastic hire here and is exactly the model of coach we need to be looking at whenever we look at making any hire in men's basketball or football. 

Former high-level coach who fell from grace for either personal or professional reasons and is looking for a soft place to land to get his career back on track.  Then we simply hope that he falls in love with the place and never leaves.  Repeat as necessary.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: jtksu on June 05, 2011, 12:22:49 AM
If RR had the same type of kick in the pants result that Huggs did, there is no way we can pay him to much.  Premium Nike f-ball uniforms would be well worth it.  Seriously.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: steve dave on June 05, 2011, 12:23:37 AM
I think he'd be great at KSU where there isn't nearly as much media scrutiny, and he can get JUCO's and guys from the south who aren't exactly scholars into school with no issue.. 

He would be a fantastic hire here and is exactly the model of coach we need to be looking at whenever we look at making any hire in men's basketball or football. 

Former high-level coach who fell from grace for either personal or professional reasons and is looking for a soft place to land to get his career back on track.  Then we simply hope that he falls in love with the place and never leaves.  Repeat as necessary.

this except don't be naive enough to think that they will fall in love with kansas state.  perfect model for us.  plenty of great coaches to pick from that fit the mold whenever the one we resurrected leaves.  
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: MichiganisGood on June 05, 2011, 12:27:57 AM
wow, good stuff MIG.  the fact that RR isn't our coach this very second kind of infuriates me (assuming he would take the job).  I think we set up pretty nicely for next season under a RR offense fwiw.  I know john currie reads the board so that's out there.

The offense is awesome, and the crazy thing about it is the video game numbers we put up last year on offense was done with 1 Senior(RT Schilling) and 2 Juniors, everyone else it was their first or 2nd year starting.. Plus, we were 3-18 on FG attempts, had we even had a halfway decent kicker we probably win a couple more games and score a bunch more points..
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: KITNfury on June 05, 2011, 06:39:54 AM
I think he'd be great at KSU where there isn't nearly as much media scrutiny, and he can get JUCO's and guys from the south who aren't exactly scholars into school with no issue.. 

He would be a fantastic hire here and is exactly the model of coach we need to be looking at whenever we look at making any hire in men's basketball or football. 

Former high-level coach who fell from grace for either personal or professional reasons and is looking for a soft place to land to get his career back on track.  Then we simply hope that he falls in love with the place and never leaves.  Repeat as necessary.

this except don't be naive enough to think that they will fall in love with kansas state.  perfect model for us.  plenty of great coaches to pick from that fit the mold whenever the one we resurrected leaves.  
I don't think someone like RR would fall in love but its not out of the question that he would be gunshy of a big time program after getting rail roaded once before.
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 02, 2018, 10:37:07 AM
Sorry if Luk'd:

Former TCU receiver sues Patterson, university and Big 12, alleging abuse and harassment

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article197923869.html (http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article197923869.html)
Title: Re: It's Patterson!
Post by: Katpappy on February 02, 2018, 05:01:51 PM
Sorry if Luk'd:

Former TCU receiver sues Patterson, university and Big 12, alleging abuse and harassment

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article197923869.html (http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article197923869.html)
The other player in the lawsuit may have CTE, if so, a win could cost the NCAA.  It might also hit home with our spaggite headed players.