Thanks again Fitz.
:cry:
Congrats to former* K-State head coach Gary Patterson and his TCU team for their Rose Bowl win. Gary, it may have sucked the way things went down with K-State a couple of years ago, with Snyder butting in and all when you were set to come home, but at least you now have a bigger win on your resume than Snyder has or will ever have, and you didn't have to put up with his shadow over you to accomplish it.
I suspect that OB swooped in at the last second and Wefald pulled the trigger and told Patterson to go eff himself cause his old buddy was coming back...but what the hell do I know? :dunno:
I have no earthly idea...probably because
A. He didn't want to coach here
B. The clowns that were running the show wanted OB
C. All of the above
Nobody...N.O.B.O.D.Y. turns down a job they really want because a fat, bald, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) dude breaks a story about it on his cacty website sooner than he wanted. That's the dumbest effing theory on the planet. Yeah, he was all set to come here...was excited about coaching his alma mater...negotiated a contract that would give him a big raise...convinced his wife it was the right thing for the family...started shopping for houses...and then BOOM!!! somebody writes a story about it before he wanted them to so he totally changes his plans and leaves a couple million over a few years on the table. See how effing Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that sounds when you think it all the way through?
Is Fitz an idiot? Absolutely...but he's not responsible for Patterson not taking the job.
I suspect that OB swooped in at the last second and Wefald pulled the trigger and told Patterson to go eff himself cause his old buddy was coming back...but what the hell do I know? :dunno:
Tards don't like to hear common sense. Makes too much sense. Please don't post anymore... it scares the tards.
so does snyder have a personal beef with Patterson or does old ballz just want to play with his toys and no one else?
I suspect that OB swooped in at the last second and Wefald pulled the trigger and told Patterson to go eff himself cause his old buddy was coming back...but what the hell do I know? :dunno:
Loads, I'd say.
That's actually pretty close to the insidery grumblings of the "true story." However, there are also grumblings that the Fitz announcement accelerated the moving pieces and didn't allow for cooler heads to prevail...forcing one path instead of the other.
You know what's not cool? COSTING US GARY PATTERSON!!!
TCU actually lost that game eliminating them from any chance of a BCS game that year.
It is a fairly small leap of logic that Fitz had a source telling him "It's Patterson" and the only hold up is if TCU made the BCS he wanted to coach the BCS bowl game. Once that was no longer an issue Fitz attempted to break the story.
Quote from: some hoodlum in So LongYou know what's not cool? COSTING US GARY PATTERSON!!!
eff you TP for killing ksufans so I can't go and search for the exact words.
Quote from: some hoodlum in So LongYou know what's not cool? COSTING US GARY PATTERSON!!!
eff you TP for killing ksufans so I can't go and search for the exact words.
Not sure if this will help: Link (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:KkhPGTBrhucJ:www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php%3Ftopic%3D48648.175%3Bwap2+site:ksufans.com+costing+us+gary+patterson&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)
TCU actually lost that game eliminating them from any chance of a BCS game that year.
It is a fairly small leap of logic that Fitz had a source telling him "It's Patterson" and the only hold up is if TCU made the BCS he wanted to coach the BCS bowl game. Once that was no longer an issue Fitz attempted to break the story.
I forgot they lost the Utah, I stand corrected... again, when was the last time coaches changes are announced on November 7th? It's jacked up cac regardless of being eliminated from BCS contention and trying to "break" the story. I was :bang: that afternoon, because it made no sense even before GP imploded on DFW radio... and before the "insidery" stories came to being.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=9605.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=9605.0)Quote from: some hoodlum in So LongYou know what's not cool? COSTING US GARY PATTERSON!!!
eff you TP for killing ksufans so I can't go and search for the exact words.
Not sure if this will help: Link (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:KkhPGTBrhucJ:www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php%3Ftopic%3D48648.175%3Bwap2+site:ksufans.com+costing+us+gary+patterson&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)
Damn, I've got a good memory.
Start a thread over in combofanning and post the idiot's guide to searching for old stuff on ksufans now that TP has taken it out back and killed it. :combofan:
Congrats to former* K-State head coach Gary Patterson and his TCU team for their Rose Bowl win. Gary, it may have sucked the way things went down with K-State a couple of years ago, with Snyder butting in and all when you were set to come home, but at least you now have a bigger win on your resume than Snyder has or will ever have, and you didn't have to put up with his shadow over you to accomplish it.
* For about an hour.
TCU actually lost that game eliminating them from any chance of a BCS game that year.
It is a fairly small leap of logic that Fitz had a source telling him "It's Patterson" and the only hold up is if TCU made the BCS he wanted to coach the BCS bowl game. Once that was no longer an issue Fitz attempted to break the story.
I forgot they lost the Utah, I stand corrected... again, when was the last time coaches changes are announced on November 7th? It's jacked up cac regardless of being eliminated from BCS contention and trying to "break" the story. I was :bang: that afternoon, because it made no sense even before GP imploded on DFW radio... and before the "insidery" stories came to being.
True, but not only did Fitz announce the "hiring", he had the contract details in the article.
If not Patterson, how about Bumpass?
This guy thinks so: http://affiliate.kickapps.com/service/displayDiscussionThreads.kickAction?w=149225&as=47305&d=625034&widgetId=96363
(http://affiliate.kickapps.com/service/displayDiscussionThreads.kickAction?w=149225&as=47305&d=625034&widgetId=96363)
Would at least be better than Cosh. . . (oh and the name! :love:)
Oh, if FITZ had just done what he does best and "sat on the story" while Gary finished the season and notified his team and administration on the terms he wanted to after the bowl game...
Gee Rams do you think somebody may have been using Fitz??
I suspect that OB swooped in at the last second and Wefald pulled the trigger and told Patterson to go eff himself cause his old buddy was coming back...but what the hell do I know? :dunno:
Loads, I'd say.
That's actually pretty close to the insidery grumblings of the "true story." However, there are also grumblings that the Fitz announcement accelerated the moving pieces and didn't allow for cooler heads to prevail...forcing one path instead of the other. Also, at least one rumor I heard has it that one of Fitz's "sources" was Frank....which is hilarious if you have listened to Frank spin a recruiting yarn in person before. The truth resides someplace between Fitz single handedly ruining us, and Krause being our hapless, would-be savior....but regardless of those conclusions it all still comes back to Wefald.
Congrats to former* K-State head coach Gary Patterson and his TCU team for their Rose Bowl win. Gary, it may have sucked the way things went down with K-State a couple of years ago, with Snyder butting in and all when you were set to come home, but at least you now have a bigger win on your resume than Snyder has or will ever have, and you didn't have to put up with his shadow over you to accomplish it.
* For about an hour.
Snyder did beat an undefeated number one ranked team by 28 points and win the Big 12 title
More impressive than beating the number five ranked team in a bowl game
There are so many variables to all of this that it's impossible to KNOW anything, but the single thing that I am MOST confident in, is that Currie will NOT take the next coach selection lightly.
Every cockamamie "in waiting" theory out there is fatally flawed, because it assumes that Currie is rough ridin' stupid. He isn't. He from the SEC, ,he's his own man....he's doing things that have NEVER been done around here with fund raising, marketing, etc. You think he's going to let Old Balls and his stack of printed rough ridin' emails dictate a single facet of the future of this program? eff NO. And thank God for that.
I'm praying that the rumors are true that Old Balls actually MIGHT make a change on his staff for the first time in his life....that's enough impossibility for me to allow myself to entertain right now with this program.
There are so many variables to all of this that it's impossible to KNOW anything, but the single thing that I am MOST confident in, is that Currie will NOT take the next coach selection lightly.
Every crockamamie "in waiting" theory out there is fatally flawed, because it assumes that Currie is effing stupid. He isn't. He from the SEC, ,he's his own man....he's doing things that have NEVER been done around here with fund raising, marketing, etc. You think he's going to let Old Balls and his stack of printed effing emails dictate a single facet of the future of this program? eff NO. And thank God for that.
I'm praying that the rumors are true that Old Balls actually MIGHT make a change on his staff for the first time in his life....that's enough impossibility for me to allow myself to entertain right now with this program.
Patterson still has relatives that live in Kansas. According to them, he had accepted the job and was coming until we got Fitz shazbot!ed.
Patterson still has relatives that live in Kansas. According to them, he had accepted the job and was coming until we got Fitz shazbot!ed.
I had heard the same until I spoke with a guy that spoke with relatives, and they said he never took the job and probably never would.
Now, it's hard to say what relative to believe over another, or who is right and who is wrong, but I was 100% sure of what you were telling me until I talked to him.
There is also the rumor out there that Patterson may be a TCU lifer because his wife is a big wig in Ft. Worth, and leaving there is going to take a very special situation. It sounds like A&M is a very desirable job for them, but with Sherman finally figuring out how to win there, that job may not be an option. And I don't think he has the personality for the bright lights of Austin, so I think there's a significant chance Patterson will be a TCU lifer and build them up. Now that he's in an AQ conference, there's no good reason for him to go anywhere.
Some of you are idots....
Patterson was NEVER coming to K-State...Never
Whatever the reason the Fitz said what he said...I don't know
What I do know is the Patterson was NEVER...NEVER...coming
Some of you are idots....
Patterson was NEVER coming to K-State...Never
Whatever the reason the Fitz said what he said...I don't know
What I do know is the Patterson was NEVER...NEVER...coming
From the people I have spoken with that I trust:
Patterson had accepted the job.
FITZ's report was accurate in which he outlined the contract details that were provided by his agent. Go back and read it. This wasn't conjecture or speculation. These were hard details being reported.
What infuriated Gary is that the story became public, against his wishes, before he had the opportunity to personally notify the TCU administration, who is extremely close with, his staff and his players who were all preparing for their biggest, most important game of the season and subsequent bowl game.
The story backed him into a corner, compromised his integrity, and essentially railroaded the process that he wanted to unfold on his terms.
There was also meddling by Wefald in the 11th hour that complicated the situation.
No not my opinion...It's what I know..
I don't think Patterson was ever serious about coming here.
No not my opinion...It's what I know..
Maryland just got LEACH'D.to add
There are so many variables to all of this that it's impossible to KNOW anything, but the single thing that I am MOST confident in, is that Currie will NOT take the next coach selection lightly.This right here is what gives me hope for the future. :ksu:
Every cockamamie "in waiting" theory out there is fatally flawed, because it assumes that Currie is rough ridin' stupid. He isn't. He from the SEC, ,he's his own man....he's doing things that have NEVER been done around here with fund raising, marketing, etc. You think he's going to let Old Balls and his stack of printed rough ridin' emails dictate a single facet of the future of this program? eff NO. And thank God for that.
I'm praying that the rumors are true that Old Balls actually MIGHT make a change on his staff for the first time in his life....that's enough impossibility for me to allow myself to entertain right now with this program.
Maryland just got LEACH'D.to add
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-01-02/maryland-picks-uconns-randy-edsall-as-next-coach
There are so many variables to all of this that it's impossible to KNOW anything, but the single thing that I am MOST confident in, is that Currie will NOT take the next coach selection lightly.This right here is what gives me hope for the future. :ksu:
Every crockamamie "in waiting" theory out there is fatally flawed, because it assumes that Currie is effing stupid. He isn't. He from the SEC, ,he's his own man....he's doing things that have NEVER been done around here with fund raising, marketing, etc. You think he's going to let Old Balls and his stack of printed effing emails dictate a single facet of the future of this program? eff NO. And thank God for that.
I'm praying that the rumors are true that Old Balls actually MIGHT make a change on his staff for the first time in his life....that's enough impossibility for me to allow myself to entertain right now with this program.
Now can we please, for love of everything holy, stop perpetuating the stupid myth that a website owner was responsible for a major college coach changing his mind about a job he really wanted. This is a favorite talking point of the squaks. When they do it, it's funny because it show how out of touch with reality they are. When we do it it's just effing depressing.
So, we could still get Leach right?
So, we could still get Leach right?
Limestone..how do come up with your stage name?
No not my opinion...It's what I know..
No not my opinion...It's what I know..
I know 2 people who saw the contract and where/how they got access to it (not Fitz, though I'm fairly certain he saw it too). NOT going into details, but it was legit. Don't care what Gary told his friends or family after the fact, he was coming until Wefald pulled the plug.
En route to the Baylor disaster this yr, a friend asked me if I'd heard about what happened with GP and KSU. I played like I didn't know crap and he told me the entire story, but that he'd heard this info through some coaching tree down here in TX. I believe that GP was going to come here, but all the Busch Leaguers involved mumped crap up.
if we weren't retards about it.
i heard this one story that GP was gonna come here. How do I know? GP told me himself. Got him wasted one night in Dallas. Spilled everything. He even said he would still come here if we weren't retards about it. Says he likes Currie a lot and loves Manhattan!jfc you should preformed any sexual favor he wanted in order to make that happen.
i heard this one story that GP was gonna come here. How do I know? GP told me himself. Got him wasted one night in Dallas. Spilled everything. He even said he would still come here if we weren't retards about it. Says he likes Currie a lot and loves Manhattan!jfc you should preformed any sexual favor he wanted in order to make that happen.
Probably giving Cosh a few pointers.
DAD! MAKE HIM LEAVE!
Probably giving Cosh a few pointers.
Probably giving Cosh a few pointers.
:pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:
Though would take even more
http://www.kstateacacia.org/#!__recent-news
http://www.kstateacacia.org/#!__recent-news
Trim is an Acacia?! Figures. :lol:
Trim is an Acacia?! Figures. :lol:
Yep, and as you can see by the links I post, I'm also an ou bbs'r, the producer of ku's "The Gridiron", a marketer of Tulsa hotel deals (mods only) and the distributor of the nike nipple stripe shirts to football coaches across the country. And those are just roles I've held in the last few days.
WILL TAKE!
Trim is an Acacia?! Figures. :lol:
Yep, and as you can see by the links I post, I'm also an ou bbs'r, the producer of ku's "The Gridiron", a marketer of Tulsa hotel deals (mods only) and the distributor of the nike nipple stripe shirts to football coaches across the country. And those are just roles I've held in the last few days.
Trim is an Acacia?! Figures. :lol:
Yep, and as you can see by the links I post, I'm also an ou bbs'r, the producer of ku's "The Gridiron", a marketer of Tulsa hotel deals (mods only) and the distributor of the nike nipple stripe shirts to football coaches across the country. And those are just roles I've held in the last few days.
Performance Stripes !!! :shakesfist:
Anyway, reading this thread, it's interesting because we have this exact same 'theory' in regards to our coaching search of 07..
Before the SEC championship Herbstreit announced that we had hired Les Miles from LSU live on College Gameday.. Well that led to LSU announcing a press conference later that day and Les saying how he was planning on staying and coaching LSU in the NC game (and a week later a big extension and us hiring Rich Rod)..
The story goes that we had all but hired Miles (had a contract agreed upon in principle and it was basically a done deal for the next day) but Herbie who apparently found out through Desmond (fellow CollegeGamday'er and a member of the Search Committee) went public with before everyone wanted it to be public to sabotage us and ruin it or whatever.. Very similar to your situation, though I tend to think our story at least is exaggerated or just plain bullshit..
Speaking of which, you guys should totally hire Rich Rod, he doesn't suck nearly as bad as we made it seem, and I think he'd be perfect for a place like KSU..
Anyway, reading this thread, it's interesting because we have this exact same 'theory' in regards to our coaching search of 07..
Before the SEC championship Herbstreit announced that we had hired Les Miles from LSU live on College Gameday.. Well that led to LSU announcing a press conference later that day and Les saying how he was planning on staying and coaching LSU in the NC game (and a week later a big extension and us hiring Rich Rod)..
The story goes that we had all but hired Miles (had a contract agreed upon in principle and it was basically a done deal for the next day) but Herbie who apparently found out through Desmond (fellow CollegeGamday'er and a member of the Search Committee) went public with before everyone wanted it to be public to sabotage us and ruin it or whatever.. Very similar to your situation, though I tend to think our story at least is exaggerated or just plain bullshit..
Speaking of which, you guys should totally hire Rich Rod, he doesn't suck nearly as bad as we made it seem, and I think he'd be perfect for a place like KSU..
I think we're all in agreement that RR would be a fantastic hire. (So long as Patterson is still mad at us. :shakesfitz:)
Sams running the RR offense! :love:
I think he'd be great at KSU where there isn't nearly as much media scrutiny, and he can get JUCO's and guys from the south who aren't exactly scholars into school with no issue..
I think he'd be great at KSU where there isn't nearly as much media scrutiny, and he can get JUCO's and guys from the south who aren't exactly scholars into school with no issue..
He would be a fantastic hire here and is exactly the model of coach we need to be looking at whenever we look at making any hire in men's basketball or football.
Former high-level coach who fell from grace for either personal or professional reasons and is looking for a soft place to land to get his career back on track. Then we simply hope that he falls in love with the place and never leaves. Repeat as necessary.
wow, good stuff MIG. the fact that RR isn't our coach this very second kind of infuriates me (assuming he would take the job). I think we set up pretty nicely for next season under a RR offense fwiw. I know john currie reads the board so that's out there.
I don't think someone like RR would fall in love but its not out of the question that he would be gunshy of a big time program after getting rail roaded once before.I think he'd be great at KSU where there isn't nearly as much media scrutiny, and he can get JUCO's and guys from the south who aren't exactly scholars into school with no issue..
He would be a fantastic hire here and is exactly the model of coach we need to be looking at whenever we look at making any hire in men's basketball or football.
Former high-level coach who fell from grace for either personal or professional reasons and is looking for a soft place to land to get his career back on track. Then we simply hope that he falls in love with the place and never leaves. Repeat as necessary.
this except don't be naive enough to think that they will fall in love with kansas state. perfect model for us. plenty of great coaches to pick from that fit the mold whenever the one we resurrected leaves.
Sorry if Luk'd:The other player in the lawsuit may have CTE, if so, a win could cost the NCAA. It might also hit home with our spaggite headed players.
Former TCU receiver sues Patterson, university and Big 12, alleging abuse and harassment
http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article197923869.html (http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article197923869.html)