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Title: "Green" Energy
Post by: _33 on November 05, 2010, 11:31:59 AM
 :lol:

Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 05, 2010, 12:05:33 PM
More like "Waste of Energy"   :lol:
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2010, 12:19:09 PM
Nothing like going "green" and then breaking a "Green" light bulb and having to clear the house and bring in a Haz-Mat team.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: mortons toe on November 05, 2010, 12:45:46 PM
my favorite is the term "smart" car... Yep, that internal combustion motor was pretty dumb!  :lol:
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Brock Landers on November 05, 2010, 12:47:37 PM
The only thing green about Green Energy is the incredible amount of money involved.    :flush:  (with one square of toilet paper)
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 05, 2010, 01:02:45 PM
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Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Saulbadguy on November 05, 2010, 01:04:37 PM
Renewable. Sustainable.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: _33 on November 05, 2010, 01:45:08 PM
Renewable. Sustainable.

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Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 06, 2010, 12:35:02 AM
try not to fear it.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Big Sam on November 06, 2010, 01:02:12 AM
try not to fear it.

I only fear crap that doesn't work and costs a ton more to get the same job done.

Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Jeffy on November 06, 2010, 08:52:58 AM
try to ignore me.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: _33 on November 06, 2010, 10:37:12 AM
If I want more bottled water after having a bottle I never refill my used bottle, I will just get a new bottle of water to drink.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: CNS on November 06, 2010, 10:59:55 AM
Conservatives hating to conserve.   :lol:

Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Big Sam on November 06, 2010, 11:54:35 AM
Conservatives hating to conserve.   :lol:



we conserve what is important.  Whaddya do?  Take a dump and store it in a shoebox under the bed for later use?

Green-tards.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 06, 2010, 12:10:37 PM
try not to fear it.

This was the perfect situation to use "free market".  You blew it.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: _33 on November 06, 2010, 02:49:12 PM
Conserving is such a hassle.  I don't even conserve my energy.  Never made it past 2K in several 10K run attempts.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: wetwillie on November 06, 2010, 04:00:35 PM
I just want to have another fuel source for my car when gas goes to 15$ a gallon after the middle east blows itself up.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 06, 2010, 04:24:00 PM
I just want to have another fuel source for my car when gas goes to 15$ a gallon after the middle east blows itself up.

You mean after the Fed prints $600 billion dollars.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: CNS on November 06, 2010, 11:17:55 PM
Conservatives hating to conserve.   :lol:



we conserve what is important.  Whaddya do?  Take a dump and store it in a shoebox under the bed for later use?

Green-tards.

Pretty weird post.  Doesn't make any sense. 
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 07, 2010, 12:36:50 PM
You guys are right. We should just get rid of all of our hydro, nuclear, and wind power and use nothing but coal and oil for energy. Then we would have air quality as poor as China and health care and entitlement costs would go down because our life expectancy would be about 60.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 07, 2010, 01:01:58 PM
You guys are right. We should just get rid of all of our hydro, nuclear, and wind power and use nothing but coal and oil for energy. Then we would have air quality as poor as China and health care and entitlement costs would go down because our life expectancy would be about 60.

We should do whatever costs less and do our best to make it as clean as possible.  Pretty sure you could have a gerbil run on a wheel and create energy, it's renewable, but a stupid idea.

We need to stop acting like the current output of smoke in the US is like a campfire in a closet and realize its more like a matchstick in the Jerry Dome.  What happened to "plant a tree"?  Have we given up on the Rainforest and the Ozone? 

It's ironic that libs create a "Fear Rally" all while continuing to create phony crisis' to push they're useless agenda.  :flush:  The sooner you realize it's all just a grab for power and to make people behave how they want, the sooner you'll realize how useless being a lib is.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 07, 2010, 01:11:36 PM
You guys are right. We should just get rid of all of our hydro, nuclear, and wind power and use nothing but coal and oil for energy. Then we would have air quality as poor as China and health care and entitlement costs would go down because our life expectancy would be about 60.

We should do whatever costs less and do our best to make it as clean as possible.  Pretty sure you could have a gerbil run on a wheel and create energy, it's renewable, but a stupid idea.

We need to stop acting like the current output of smoke in the US is like a campfire in a closet and realize its more like a matchstick in the Jerry Dome.  What happened to "plant a tree"?  Have we given up on the Rainforest and the Ozone? 

It's ironic that libs create a "Fear Rally" all while continuing to create phony crisis' to push they're useless agenda.  :flush:  The sooner you realize it's all just a grab for power and to make people behave how they want, the sooner you'll realize how useless being a lib is.

Isn't that what we are currently doing? Most renewable energy projects are actually powered by baseline coal power production. It's only retards (on both sides) who think that green power is going to eliminate the need for fossil fuels. Clean air is a good thing. Sometimes you get what you pay for, Sugar Dick.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 07, 2010, 02:07:40 PM
You guys are right. We should just get rid of all of our hydro, nuclear, and wind power and use nothing but coal and oil for energy. Then we would have air quality as poor as China and health care and entitlement costs would go down because our life expectancy would be about 60.

We should do whatever costs less and do our best to make it as clean as possible.  Pretty sure you could have a gerbil run on a wheel and create energy, it's renewable, but a stupid idea.

We need to stop acting like the current output of smoke in the US is like a campfire in a closet and realize its more like a matchstick in the Jerry Dome.  What happened to "plant a tree"?  Have we given up on the Rainforest and the Ozone?  

It's ironic that libs create a "Fear Rally" all while continuing to create phony crisis' to push they're useless agenda.  :flush:  The sooner you realize it's all just a grab for power and to make people behave how they want, the sooner you'll realize how useless being a lib is.

Isn't that what we are currently doing? Most renewable energy projects are actually powered by baseline coal power production. It's only retards (on both sides) who think that green power is going to eliminate the need for fossil fuels. Clean air is a good thing. Sometimes you get what you pay for, Sugar Dick.

libs are complaining about what we're currently doing, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 07, 2010, 05:45:34 PM
You guys are right. We should just get rid of all of our hydro, nuclear, and wind power and use nothing but coal and oil for energy. Then we would have air quality as poor as China and health care and entitlement costs would go down because our life expectancy would be about 60.

We should do whatever costs less and do our best to make it as clean as possible.  Pretty sure you could have a gerbil run on a wheel and create energy, it's renewable, but a stupid idea.

We need to stop acting like the current output of smoke in the US is like a campfire in a closet and realize its more like a matchstick in the Jerry Dome.  What happened to "plant a tree"?  Have we given up on the Rainforest and the Ozone?  

It's ironic that libs create a "Fear Rally" all while continuing to create phony crisis' to push they're useless agenda.  :flush:  The sooner you realize it's all just a grab for power and to make people behave how they want, the sooner you'll realize how useless being a lib is.

Isn't that what we are currently doing? Most renewable energy projects are actually powered by baseline coal power production. It's only retards (on both sides) who think that green power is going to eliminate the need for fossil fuels. Clean air is a good thing. Sometimes you get what you pay for, Sugar Dick.

libs are complaining about what we're currently doing, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

I thought this thread was complaining about what we are currently doing, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). You shouldn't fight green energy. You should invest your money into it. It's not going to go away.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 07, 2010, 06:31:08 PM
You guys are right. We should just get rid of all of our hydro, nuclear, and wind power and use nothing but coal and oil for energy. Then we would have air quality as poor as China and health care and entitlement costs would go down because our life expectancy would be about 60.

We should do whatever costs less and do our best to make it as clean as possible.  Pretty sure you could have a gerbil run on a wheel and create energy, it's renewable, but a stupid idea.

We need to stop acting like the current output of smoke in the US is like a campfire in a closet and realize its more like a matchstick in the Jerry Dome.  What happened to "plant a tree"?  Have we given up on the Rainforest and the Ozone?  

It's ironic that libs create a "Fear Rally" all while continuing to create phony crisis' to push they're useless agenda.  :flush:  The sooner you realize it's all just a grab for power and to make people behave how they want, the sooner you'll realize how useless being a lib is.

Isn't that what we are currently doing? Most renewable energy projects are actually powered by baseline coal power production. It's only retards (on both sides) who think that green power is going to eliminate the need for fossil fuels. Clean air is a good thing. Sometimes you get what you pay for, Sugar Dick.

libs are complaining about what we're currently doing, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

I thought this thread was complaining about what we are currently doing, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). You shouldn't fight green energy. You should invest your money into it. It's not going to go away.

Are there any green energy companies that make money without government subsidies?
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: wetwillie on November 07, 2010, 07:56:34 PM
You guys are right. We should just get rid of all of our hydro, nuclear, and wind power and use nothing but coal and oil for energy. Then we would have air quality as poor as China and health care and entitlement costs would go down because our life expectancy would be about 60.

We should do whatever costs less and do our best to make it as clean as possible.  Pretty sure you could have a gerbil run on a wheel and create energy, it's renewable, but a stupid idea.

We need to stop acting like the current output of smoke in the US is like a campfire in a closet and realize its more like a matchstick in the Jerry Dome.  What happened to "plant a tree"?  Have we given up on the Rainforest and the Ozone?  

It's ironic that libs create a "Fear Rally" all while continuing to create phony crisis' to push they're useless agenda.  :flush:  The sooner you realize it's all just a grab for power and to make people behave how they want, the sooner you'll realize how useless being a lib is.

Isn't that what we are currently doing? Most renewable energy projects are actually powered by baseline coal power production. It's only retards (on both sides) who think that green power is going to eliminate the need for fossil fuels. Clean air is a good thing. Sometimes you get what you pay for, Sugar Dick.

libs are complaining about what we're currently doing, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

I thought this thread was complaining about what we are currently doing, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). You shouldn't fight green energy. You should invest your money into it. It's not going to go away.

Are there any green energy companies that make money without government subsidies?

to be fair this could be said about many different industries
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: CNS on November 07, 2010, 09:06:07 PM
Imo, the future of green energy isn't mass production, but on small levels.  Making solar and wind affordable and feasible for homes and businesses to install for their own use. 

Won't happen until the aesthetics and initial investment/rate of return issues are addressed better.  There is progress in the right directions, but it is still a ways off.

Buildings accounts for a very high percentage of the nations energy in keeping the lights on and the heat/ac running.  Making products that can be incorporated into the building itself that will help offset this at the building level is where the alternative energy innovators should focus, imo.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Saulbadguy on November 08, 2010, 07:23:11 PM
Demand for oil will flat line before we run out of it.  Just a "FWIW"
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Dr. tylerhughes on November 10, 2010, 11:14:38 PM
Gotta cut carbon emmissons bro...have to.

if you wanna make some money, invest in the carbon sequestration project of your choice...except deep water sequestration below 4000 m <----that crap is stupid :pushesupglasses:
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Jeffy on November 10, 2010, 11:26:54 PM
Carbon trading has gone out of business.  As fatty would say.... "free market"

http://orangepunch.ocregister.com/2010/11/10/carbon-market-goes-out-of-business-not-before-al-gore-makes-millions/37168/
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Dr. tylerhughes on November 10, 2010, 11:42:44 PM
Carbon trading has gone out of business.  As fatty would say.... "free market"

http://orangepunch.ocregister.com/2010/11/10/carbon-market-goes-out-of-business-not-before-al-gore-makes-millions/37168/

who said anything about carbon trading?  Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 11, 2010, 06:53:00 AM
"Green Energy" has been a boon to foreign "green energy" capital goods companies . . . and they in turn are putting U.S. based "green energy" capital goods companies out of business.

Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: michigancat on November 11, 2010, 07:15:27 AM
weird thread
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Jeffy on November 11, 2010, 07:32:43 AM
Carbon trading has gone out of business.  As fatty would say.... "free market"

http://orangepunch.ocregister.com/2010/11/10/carbon-market-goes-out-of-business-not-before-al-gore-makes-millions/37168/

who said anything about carbon trading?  Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.


Apparently the poster in the post you quoted said something about carbon trading.  It's right there in black and white.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: michigancat on November 11, 2010, 07:37:14 AM
Demand for oil will flat line before we run out of it.  Just a "FWIW"

link thx.  Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Dr. tylerhughes on November 11, 2010, 09:30:25 AM
Carbon trading has gone out of business.  As fatty would say.... "free market"

http://orangepunch.ocregister.com/2010/11/10/carbon-market-goes-out-of-business-not-before-al-gore-makes-millions/37168/

who said anything about carbon trading?  Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.

 

Apparently the poster in the post you quoted said something about carbon trading.  It's right there in black and white.

my bad...thought you were responding to me.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 11, 2010, 11:12:37 AM

Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.


Then I suggest you quit breathing.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: michigancat on November 11, 2010, 11:46:19 AM

Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.


Then I suggest you quit breathing.

This is my favorite!  :shy:
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 11, 2010, 11:59:06 AM
You guys are right. We should just get rid of all of our hydro, nuclear, and wind power and use nothing but coal and oil for energy. Then we would have air quality as poor as China and health care and entitlement costs would go down because our life expectancy would be about 60.

What happened to "plant a tree"?


Businesses planting trees is a good example of green design. Now you're getting it! Trees are bad in arid environments, though, because they consume too much water.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 11, 2010, 12:08:47 PM
plant a cactus!
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 11, 2010, 12:21:44 PM

Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.


Then I suggest you quit breathing.

This is my favorite!  :shy:

Also, no more farting
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Dr. tylerhughes on November 11, 2010, 01:20:15 PM

Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.


Then I suggest you quit breathing.

This is my favorite!  :shy:

Also, no more farting

so do you think that we dont need to cut carbon emissions? what exactly do you think?
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Jeffy on November 11, 2010, 01:33:34 PM

Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.


Then I suggest you quit breathing.

This is my favorite!  :shy:

Also, no more farting

so do you think that we dont need to cut carbon emissions? what exactly do you think?

It's a good idea, but not one that needs legislated.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Saulbadguy on November 11, 2010, 01:34:56 PM
Demand for oil will flat line before we run out of it.  Just a "FWIW"

link thx.  Sounds interesting.
Sorry bro, all in my head.  I'm going to make billions off this.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Dr. tylerhughes on November 11, 2010, 02:04:40 PM

Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.


Then I suggest you quit breathing.

This is my favorite!  :shy:

Also, no more farting

so do you think that we dont need to cut carbon emissions? what exactly do you think?

It's a good idea, but not one that needs legislated.

thats is fair...I guess I dont think that I trust us enough to just do it on our own.

Also I see it as an opportunity to spark our interests into being less dependent on oil and coal.  You know, natural resources, that we have a finite amount of...
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 11, 2010, 02:28:11 PM

Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.


Then I suggest you quit breathing.

This is my favorite!  :shy:

Also, no more farting

so do you think that we dont need to cut carbon emissions? what exactly do you think?

I'm a full-fledged Darwinist.  I believe that regardless of the amount of carbon emissions the world and the human race will adapt.  Those that don't will die and eventually turn into more oil.  :pbj:

I'm also very liberal and think people should be allowed to do whatever they want, regardless of how irresponsible, including emitting unbridled amounts of carbon emissions as long as they aren't a corporation.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 11, 2010, 02:34:40 PM

Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.


Then I suggest you quit breathing.

This is my favorite!  :shy:

Also, no more farting

so do you think that we dont need to cut carbon emissions? what exactly do you think?

It's a good idea, but not one that needs legislated.

thats is fair...I guess I dont think that I trust us enough to just do it on our own.

Also I see it as an opportunity to spark our interests into being less dependent on oil and coal.  You know, natural resources, that we have a finite amount of...

Also, if it is just the US and a few Euro countries destroying their economies to cut emissions, it will have ZERO affect on the environment. Companies will simply move their manufacturing to countries without any controls, making the environment even worse.

Rather than punishing everyone while pushing manufacturing and jobs offshore, we should have incentives for evil corporations to voluntarily cut emissions.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: mjrod on November 11, 2010, 03:23:08 PM

Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.


Then I suggest you quit breathing.

This is my favorite!  :shy:

Also, no more farting

so do you think that we dont need to cut carbon emissions? what exactly do you think?

No reason to cut carbon emissions at all.

There is no evidence they do anything harmful to the planet.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Dr. tylerhughes on November 11, 2010, 03:27:15 PM

Carbon emissions need to be cut (which is different that buying offsetting credits)...that is the point of green energy btw.


Then I suggest you quit breathing.

This is my favorite!  :shy:

Also, no more farting

so do you think that we dont need to cut carbon emissions? what exactly do you think?

I'm a full-fledged Darwinist.  I believe that regardless of the amount of carbon emissions the world and the human race will adapt.  Those that don't will die and eventually turn into more oil.  :pbj:

I'm also very liberal and think people should be allowed to do whatever they want, regardless of how irresponsible, including emitting unbridled amounts of carbon emissions as long as they aren't a corporation.

That is all good stuff.  Gotta love Darwin, me thinks he is the man too. 

I get the stuff about people's liberties as well.  I do think that we should have a bit more of a social contract when it comes to things that could potentially harm society.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: hemmy on November 14, 2010, 10:43:15 AM
AGW is a hoax. There, I said it and we can all move on.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 14, 2010, 12:13:23 PM
AGW is a hoax. There, I said it and we can all move on.

You aren't helping to keep the "fear" alive.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 14, 2010, 09:21:17 PM
AGW is a hoax. There, I said it and we can all move on.

AGW may be a hoax, but respiratory problems associated with inhaling excessive amounts of sulfur dioxide are most definitely not.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Jeffy on November 14, 2010, 09:34:46 PM
AGW is a hoax. There, I said it and we can all move on.

AGW may be a hoax, but respiratory problems associated with inhaling excessive amounts of sulfur dioxide are most definitely not.

Dihydrogen Monoxide is a real killer, too.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 14, 2010, 09:42:38 PM
AGW is a hoax. There, I said it and we can all move on.

AGW may be a hoax, but respiratory problems associated with inhaling excessive amounts of sulfur dioxide are most definitely not.

Dihydrogen Monoxide is a real killer, too.

Only when contaminated with foreign agents, dumbass.

That actually did make me chuckle. Nice post.
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 14, 2010, 10:06:28 PM
AGW is a hoax. There, I said it and we can all move on.

AGW may be a hoax, but respiratory problems associated with inhaling excessive amounts of sulfur dioxide are most definitely not.

Dihydrogen Monoxide is a real killer, too.


Only when contaminated with foreign agents, dumbass.

That actually did make me chuckle. Nice post.

Actually, pure Dihydrogen Monoxide will kill you just as quickly as contaminated.  Read up or risk death! (http://www.dhmo.org/)
Title: Re: "Green" Energy
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 14, 2010, 10:19:50 PM
AGW is a hoax. There, I said it and we can all move on.

AGW may be a hoax, but respiratory problems associated with inhaling excessive amounts of sulfur dioxide are most definitely not.

Dihydrogen Monoxide is a real killer, too.


Only when contaminated with foreign agents, dumbass.

That actually did make me chuckle. Nice post.

Actually, pure Dihydrogen Monoxide will kill you just as quickly as contaminated.  Read up or risk death! (http://www.dhmo.org/)

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