Post by: weird roberts foam finger on February 05, 2010, 01:06:51 PM
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2481&t=5572606 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2481&t=5572606)
What cracks me up is all their fans assume the guy is going to be around another season or 3 and think nothing of it ... and they're of course right because Self ruins careers.
Judge>Henry
:bait:
Post by: hemmy on February 05, 2010, 01:09:41 PM
Post by: Fracker on February 05, 2010, 01:23:46 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 05, 2010, 01:37:44 PM
I'd say Carl Henry because look at what Cal is letting Wall do. He has basically turned him into the #1 overall pick.
Post by: OregonSmock on February 05, 2010, 02:17:30 PM
http://www.draftexpress.com/ (http://www.draftexpress.com/)
Nets John Wall PG
Kentucky, Freshman
2 Timberwolves Evan Turner SG/SF
Ohio State, Junior
3 Warriors Derrick Favors PF/C
Georgia Tech, Freshman
4 Wizards DeMarcus Cousins C
Kentucky, Freshman
5 76ers Ed Davis PF
North Carolina, Sophomore
6 Pistons Al-Farouq Aminu SF/PF
Wake Forest, Sophomore
7 Kings Cole Aldrich C
Kansas, Junior
8 Pacers Wesley Johnson SF/PF
Syracuse, Junior
9 Jazz Patrick Patterson PF
Kentucky, Junior
10 Bucks Willie Warren SG
Oklahoma, Sophomore
11 Clippers Donatas Motiejunas PF/C
Benetton Treviso, International
12 Bulls Stanley Robinson SF/PF
Connecticut, Senior
13 Timberwolves Ekpe Udoh PF/C
Baylor, Junior
14 Raptors Xavier Henry SG
Kansas, Freshman
15 Heat Elias Harris SF/PF
Gonzaga, Freshman
16 Rockets Greg Monroe PF/C
Georgetown, Sophomore
17 Hornets Solomon Alabi C
Florida State, Sophomore
18 Thunder Larry Sanders PF/C
VCU, Junior
19 Grizzlies Quincy Pondexter SF/PF
Washington, Senior
20 Thunder Jan Vesely PF
KK Partizan Belgrade, International
21 Spurs Elliot Williams SG
Memphis, Sophomore
22 Trailblazers Devin Ebanks SF/PF
West Virginia, Sophomore
23 Timberwolves Paul George SF/PF
Fresno State, Sophomore
24 Magic Gordon Hayward SF/PF
Butler, Sophomore
25 Nets Kalin Lucas PG
Michigan State, Junior
26 Hawks Sherron Collins PG
Kansas, Senior
27 Grizzlies Gani Lawal PF/C
Georgia Tech, Junior
28 Celtics Damion James PF
Texas, Senior
29 Grizzlies James Anderson SG/SF
Oklahoma State, Junior
30 Cavaliers Artsiom Parakhouski C
Radford, Senior
Post by: OregonSmock on February 05, 2010, 02:21:08 PM
1 Harrison Barnes SG/SF
years old; 6'8"; 210 lbs.
Ames High School, HS Senior
2 Perry Jones PF
years old; 6'11"; 220 lbs.
, HS Senior
3 Hassan Whiteside PF/C
20 years old; 7'0"; 235 lbs.
Marshall, Freshman
4 Jonas Valanciunas PF/C
17 years old; 6'10"; 230 lbs.
Lietuvos Rytas, International
5 Josh Selby SG
years old; 6'1"; 180 lbs.
Dematha Catholic HS, HS Senior
6 Jeff Taylor SF
20 years old; 6'6"; 200 lbs.
Vanderbilt, Sophomore
7 C.J. Leslie SF/PF
years old; 6'8"; 205 lbs.
, HS Senior
8 Brandon Knight PG
years old; 6'3"; 170 lbs.
Pine Crest HS, HS Senior
9 Mason Plumlee PF
19 years old; 6'11"; 210 lbs.
Duke, Freshman
10 Jordan Hamilton SF
19 years old; 6'7"; 210 lbs.
Texas, Freshman
11 Abdul Gaddy PG
18 years old; 6'3"; 174 lbs.
Washington, Freshman
12 Kemba Walker PG
19 years old; 6'0"; 180 lbs.
Connecticut, Sophomore
13 John Henson PF
19 years old; 6'10"; 200 lbs.
North Carolina, Freshman
14 Tyshawn Taylor PG
19 years old; 6'3"; 180 lbs.
Kansas, Sophomore
15 Enes Kanter C
17 years old; 6'9"; 250 lbs.
Fenerbahce Ulker, International
16 Kevin Seraphin C
20 years old; 6'9"; 258 lbs.
Cholet, International
17 JaMychal Green PF/C
19 years old; 6'8"; 225 lbs.
Alabama, Sophomore
18 Chris Singleton PF
20 years old; 6'8"; 210 lbs.
Florida State, Sophomore
19 Avery Bradley SG
19 years old; 6'3"; 180 lbs.
Texas, Freshman
20 Wesley Witherspoon SF
20 years old; 6'8"; 185 lbs.
Memphis, Sophomore
21 Malcolm Lee SG
19 years old; 6'5"; 190 lbs.
UCLA, Sophomore
22 Arnett Moultrie PF/C
19 years old; 6'11"; 220 lbs.
UTEP, Sophomore
23 Eric Bledsoe PG
years old; 6'1"; 190 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman
24 Terrico White PG/SG
19 years old; 6'5"; 211 lbs.
Mississippi, Sophomore
25 Aaric Murray C
20 years old; 6'10"; 245 lbs.
La Salle, Freshman
26 Iman Shumpert SG
19 years old; 6'4"; 200 lbs.
Georgia Tech, Sophomore
27 Tomas Satoransky SG
18 years old; 6'6"; 190 lbs.
Cajasol Sevilla, International
28 Scotty Hopson SG/SF
20 years old; 6'6"; 195 lbs.
Tennessee, Sophomore
29 Kevin Jones PF
20 years old; 6'8"; 195 lbs.
West Virginia, Sophomore
30 Armon Johnson PG/SG
20 years old; 6'3"; 195 lbs.
Nevada, Junior
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2010, 02:23:21 PM
Post by: Cire on February 05, 2010, 02:26:42 PM
Post by: OregonSmock on February 05, 2010, 02:29:34 PM
has self ever developed any of his players?
You've got to be kidding me. Did you see the improvement of Kaun or Jackson from their freshman to senior years? Hell, just look at the improvement of Marcus Morris from his freshman to sophomore year.
Post by: catzacker on February 05, 2010, 02:30:43 PM
Post by: OregonSmock on February 05, 2010, 02:39:53 PM
Post by: mcmwcat on February 05, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
Post by: Cire on February 05, 2010, 02:54:23 PM
has self ever developed any of his players?
How are they doing in the NBA?
Also wasn't kaun 5 stars?
You've got to be kidding me. Did you see the improvement of Kaun or Jackson from their freshman to senior years? Hell, just look at the improvement of Marcus Morris from his freshman to sophomore year.
Post by: mcmwcat on February 05, 2010, 02:54:44 PM
You've got to be kidding me. Did you see the improvement of Kaun or Jackson from their freshman to senior years? Hell, just look at the improvement of Marcus Morris from his freshman to sophomore year.
normal Mo Valley type development like. nothing special. did you see how much better Cartier Martin was as a Senior than as a Freshman .... Wooly!!!!!!!!!
Post by: mcmwcat on February 05, 2010, 02:55:54 PM
Post by: catzacker on February 05, 2010, 02:58:14 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on February 05, 2010, 02:59:04 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 05, 2010, 03:01:06 PM
You've got to be kidding me. Did you see the improvement of Kaun or Jackson from their freshman to senior years?
When recruiting these players, KU fans clamor about the fact that they are bluechip NBA can't-miss players. Yet, by the time they are done at KU, none of them do sh*t at the next level. What gives?
Post by: RTB on February 05, 2010, 03:06:47 PM
Post by: OregonSmock on February 05, 2010, 03:25:59 PM
Post by: mcmwcat on February 05, 2010, 03:26:52 PM
Post by: Jeffy on February 05, 2010, 03:30:55 PM
You could also take the improvement of Aldrich from his freshman year to sophomore/junior year as an example. This is exactly what I was talking about though when I said that Kietzman's message applies to a lot of posters on this board as well. The idea that Bill Self and his staff don't develop players is as delusional as it gets.
Going from a zero to average is much easier than going from above average to hero.
Question remains: has Seff ever developed any TALENT?
Post by: OregonSmock on February 05, 2010, 03:33:51 PM
:facepalm:
Post by: mcmwcat on February 05, 2010, 03:42:04 PM
Post by: OregonSmock on February 05, 2010, 03:47:56 PM
Post by: Cire on February 05, 2010, 03:49:10 PM
Post by: OregonSmock on February 05, 2010, 03:49:45 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 05, 2010, 04:08:32 PM
No way Selby makes the same mistake.
Post by: Pett on February 05, 2010, 04:28:29 PM
Darren Kent got paid/is getting paid to play basketball. That is player development.
No other coaches can touch this. Not to mention that they made Darren the ultimate EMAW during the process...
Post by: OregonSmock on February 05, 2010, 05:39:29 PM
Darren Kent got paid/is getting paid to play basketball. That is player development.
No other coaches can touch this. Not to mention that they made Darren the ultimate EMAW during the process...
Yeah... a 6'10 American basketball player going overseas to play professional basketball is just unheard of.
Post by: Cire on February 05, 2010, 05:43:39 PM
Post by: OregonSmock on February 05, 2010, 05:53:08 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 05, 2010, 06:42:18 PM
Classic stuff . . . keep it up Ben, we need more of this.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 06, 2010, 10:11:50 AM
Post by: jmlynch1 on February 06, 2010, 10:41:29 AM
He weighs 165Darren Kent got paid/is getting paid to play basketball. That is player development.
No other coaches can touch this. Not to mention that they made Darren the ultimate EMAW during the process...
Yeah... a 6'10 American basketball player going overseas to play professional basketball is just unheard of.
Post by: brm7070 on February 06, 2010, 11:10:10 AM
It's not unheard of......but Darren F'n Kent?!?!? That, my friend, is player development!Darren Kent got paid/is getting paid to play basketball. That is player development.
No other coaches can touch this. Not to mention that they made Darren the ultimate EMAW during the process...
Yeah... a 6'10 American basketball player going overseas to play professional basketball is just unheard of.
Post by: weird roberts foam finger on February 06, 2010, 11:34:59 PM
:opcat:
Post by: mcmwcat on February 06, 2010, 11:40:11 PM
Can't wait until Cole gets to the league and gets pushed around like a girl. The Clippers will prob draft him. At least he will be able to afford a new tooth. :dunno:
Bill Simmons would love to see Aldrich in a Clipper uni
Post by: CatsFan_58 on February 06, 2010, 11:53:51 PM
Deron Williams?oscar Weber got in there in the nick of time to save him.
Post by: kstatefreak42 on February 07, 2010, 01:15:25 PM
You could also take the improvement of Aldrich from his freshman year to sophomore/junior year as an example. This is exactly what I was talking about though when I said that Kietzman's message applies to a lot of posters on this board as well. The idea that Bill Self and his staff don't develop players is as delusional as it gets.What makes you think Wally cant improve? He's shown flashes of talent. I think wants the confidence goes up he could be a force in the BIG 12. He's already gotten huge compared to what he was in high school, so he'll be bigger.. STill one of the most athletic players in the confrence. I see Walyl improving Like Aldrich did from his frosh/soph years.. But not as much as cole
Post by: Bookcat on February 07, 2010, 10:25:16 PM
You could also take the improvement of Aldrich from his freshman year to sophomore/junior year as an example. This is exactly what I was talking about though when I said that Kietzman's message applies to a lot of posters on this board as well. The idea that Bill Self and his staff don't develop players is as delusional as it gets.What makes you think Wally cant improve? He's shown flashes of talent. I think wants the confidence goes up he could be a force in the BIG 12. He's already gotten huge compared to what he was in high school, so he'll be bigger.. STill one of the most athletic players in the confrence. I see Walyl improving Like Aldrich did from his frosh/soph years.. But not as much as cole
its classic BMW..
the players on his team can improve
the players on our team can't improve
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2011, 12:42:16 PM
Quote
Levi Wolters levi_wolters
Grade A source: Josh Selby will be back at KU next season. Source is connected to Selby, not Kansas. #kubball
Bill is a rough ridin' genius.
Post by: j-dub on March 20, 2011, 01:06:17 PM
Josh, it's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's not your fault.
Post by: pike on March 20, 2011, 01:16:54 PM
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2011, 03:37:04 PM
Post by: Cire on March 20, 2011, 03:56:44 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 20, 2011, 04:03:38 PM
Post by: EMAW SP8 on March 20, 2011, 04:05:21 PM
Who will he lure to the plantation next? :confused:
McLemore(sp?) :dunno:
Post by: A-Lishious on March 20, 2011, 04:05:43 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 20, 2011, 04:06:07 PM
Who will he lure to the plantation next? :confused:
McLemore(sp?) :dunno:
Kid couldn't be that dumb.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 20, 2011, 04:15:01 PM
Who will he lure to the plantation next? :confused:
McLemore(sp?) :dunno:
Kid couldn't be that dumb.
its between them and Missouri. we've seen this movie before. i can tell you the ending.
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2011, 10:38:20 AM
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greggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
On Kansas: Who are the NBA studs on this team? Twins will play, but no studs. Selby? No. Best prospect is T-Rob
Quote
greggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
Selby will be a nice 4-year college player but he's no pro. Too short, below the rim, not a PG. College star one day. No pro.
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 28, 2011, 10:42:02 AM
Quotegreggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
Selby will be a nice 4-year college player but he's no pro. Too short, below the rim, not a PG. College star one day. No pro.
poor kid
Post by: broXcore on March 28, 2011, 10:43:57 AM
this belongs in the louvreQuotegreggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
Selby will be a nice 4-year college player but he's no pro. Too short, below the rim, not a PG. College star one day. No pro.
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2011, 10:47:15 AM
this belongs in the louvreQuotegreggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
Selby will be a nice 4-year college player but he's no pro. Too short, below the rim, not a PG. College star one day. No pro.
Four years is a lot of time to tea bag bitches :dunno:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 28, 2011, 11:03:33 AM
Post by: ZappaCat on March 29, 2011, 10:05:13 AM
The poor kid isn't even projected in the 2011 NBA draft after having his career ruined by Frank. Meanwhile, future KU commit Josh Selby and KU's own Tyshawn Taylor are projected to go lottery.
1 Harrison Barnes SG/SF
years old; 6'8"; 210 lbs.
Ames High School, HS Senior
2 Perry Jones PF
years old; 6'11"; 220 lbs.
, HS Senior
3 Hassan Whiteside PF/C
20 years old; 7'0"; 235 lbs.
Marshall, Freshman
4 Jonas Valanciunas PF/C
17 years old; 6'10"; 230 lbs.
Lietuvos Rytas, International
5 Josh Selby SG
years old; 6'1"; 180 lbs.
Dematha Catholic HS, HS Senior
6 Jeff Taylor SF
20 years old; 6'6"; 200 lbs.
Vanderbilt, Sophomore
7 C.J. Leslie SF/PF
years old; 6'8"; 205 lbs.
, HS Senior
8 Brandon Knight PG
years old; 6'3"; 170 lbs.
Pine Crest HS, HS Senior
9 Mason Plumlee PF
19 years old; 6'11"; 210 lbs.
Duke, Freshman
10 Jordan Hamilton SF
19 years old; 6'7"; 210 lbs.
Texas, Freshman
11 Abdul Gaddy PG
18 years old; 6'3"; 174 lbs.
Washington, Freshman
12 Kemba Walker PG
19 years old; 6'0"; 180 lbs.
Connecticut, Sophomore
13 John Henson PF
19 years old; 6'10"; 200 lbs.
North Carolina, Freshman
14 Tyshawn Taylor PG
19 years old; 6'3"; 180 lbs.
Kansas, Sophomore
15 Enes Kanter C
17 years old; 6'9"; 250 lbs.
Fenerbahce Ulker, International
16 Kevin Seraphin C
20 years old; 6'9"; 258 lbs.
Cholet, International
17 JaMychal Green PF/C
19 years old; 6'8"; 225 lbs.
Alabama, Sophomore
18 Chris Singleton PF
20 years old; 6'8"; 210 lbs.
Florida State, Sophomore
19 Avery Bradley SG
19 years old; 6'3"; 180 lbs.
Texas, Freshman
20 Wesley Witherspoon SF
20 years old; 6'8"; 185 lbs.
Memphis, Sophomore
21 Malcolm Lee SG
19 years old; 6'5"; 190 lbs.
UCLA, Sophomore
22 Arnett Moultrie PF/C
19 years old; 6'11"; 220 lbs.
UTEP, Sophomore
23 Eric Bledsoe PG
years old; 6'1"; 190 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman
24 Terrico White PG/SG
19 years old; 6'5"; 211 lbs.
Mississippi, Sophomore
25 Aaric Murray C
20 years old; 6'10"; 245 lbs.
La Salle, Freshman
26 Iman Shumpert SG
19 years old; 6'4"; 200 lbs.
Georgia Tech, Sophomore
27 Tomas Satoransky SG
18 years old; 6'6"; 190 lbs.
Cajasol Sevilla, International
28 Scotty Hopson SG/SF
20 years old; 6'6"; 195 lbs.
Tennessee, Sophomore
29 Kevin Jones PF
20 years old; 6'8"; 195 lbs.
West Virginia, Sophomore
30 Armon Johnson PG/SG
20 years old; 6'3"; 195 lbs.
Nevada, Junior
5 Josh Selby SG
years old; 6'1"; 180 lbs.
Dematha Catholic HS, HS Senior
37 Josh Selby SG
20 years old, Freshman
6' 1" 180lbs.
Kansas
14 Tyshawn Taylor PG
19 years old; 6'3"; 180 lbs.
Kansas, Sophomore
65 Tyshawn Taylor PG
20 years old, Junior
6' 3" 180lbs.
Kansas
How did that 2010-2011 year in Self's system do for Selby and Tyshawn's draft status?
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2011, 10:07:50 AM
Post by: Rams on March 29, 2011, 10:08:42 AM
:horrorsurprise:The poor kid isn't even projected in the 2011 NBA draft after having his career ruined by Frank. Meanwhile, future KU commit Josh Selby and KU's own Tyshawn Taylor are projected to go lottery.
1 Harrison Barnes SG/SF
years old; 6'8"; 210 lbs.
Ames High School, HS Senior
2 Perry Jones PF
years old; 6'11"; 220 lbs.
, HS Senior
3 Hassan Whiteside PF/C
20 years old; 7'0"; 235 lbs.
Marshall, Freshman
4 Jonas Valanciunas PF/C
17 years old; 6'10"; 230 lbs.
Lietuvos Rytas, International
5 Josh Selby SG
years old; 6'1"; 180 lbs.
Dematha Catholic HS, HS Senior
6 Jeff Taylor SF
20 years old; 6'6"; 200 lbs.
Vanderbilt, Sophomore
7 C.J. Leslie SF/PF
years old; 6'8"; 205 lbs.
, HS Senior
8 Brandon Knight PG
years old; 6'3"; 170 lbs.
Pine Crest HS, HS Senior
9 Mason Plumlee PF
19 years old; 6'11"; 210 lbs.
Duke, Freshman
10 Jordan Hamilton SF
19 years old; 6'7"; 210 lbs.
Texas, Freshman
11 Abdul Gaddy PG
18 years old; 6'3"; 174 lbs.
Washington, Freshman
12 Kemba Walker PG
19 years old; 6'0"; 180 lbs.
Connecticut, Sophomore
13 John Henson PF
19 years old; 6'10"; 200 lbs.
North Carolina, Freshman
14 Tyshawn Taylor PG
19 years old; 6'3"; 180 lbs.
Kansas, Sophomore
15 Enes Kanter C
17 years old; 6'9"; 250 lbs.
Fenerbahce Ulker, International
16 Kevin Seraphin C
20 years old; 6'9"; 258 lbs.
Cholet, International
17 JaMychal Green PF/C
19 years old; 6'8"; 225 lbs.
Alabama, Sophomore
18 Chris Singleton PF
20 years old; 6'8"; 210 lbs.
Florida State, Sophomore
19 Avery Bradley SG
19 years old; 6'3"; 180 lbs.
Texas, Freshman
20 Wesley Witherspoon SF
20 years old; 6'8"; 185 lbs.
Memphis, Sophomore
21 Malcolm Lee SG
19 years old; 6'5"; 190 lbs.
UCLA, Sophomore
22 Arnett Moultrie PF/C
19 years old; 6'11"; 220 lbs.
UTEP, Sophomore
23 Eric Bledsoe PG
years old; 6'1"; 190 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman
24 Terrico White PG/SG
19 years old; 6'5"; 211 lbs.
Mississippi, Sophomore
25 Aaric Murray C
20 years old; 6'10"; 245 lbs.
La Salle, Freshman
26 Iman Shumpert SG
19 years old; 6'4"; 200 lbs.
Georgia Tech, Sophomore
27 Tomas Satoransky SG
18 years old; 6'6"; 190 lbs.
Cajasol Sevilla, International
28 Scotty Hopson SG/SF
20 years old; 6'6"; 195 lbs.
Tennessee, Sophomore
29 Kevin Jones PF
20 years old; 6'8"; 195 lbs.
West Virginia, Sophomore
30 Armon Johnson PG/SG
20 years old; 6'3"; 195 lbs.
Nevada, Junior
5 Josh Selby SG
years old; 6'1"; 180 lbs.
Dematha Catholic HS, HS Senior
37 Josh Selby SG
20 years old, Freshman
6' 1" 180lbs.
Kansas
14 Tyshawn Taylor PG
19 years old; 6'3"; 180 lbs.
Kansas, Sophomore
65 Tyshawn Taylor PG
20 years old, Junior
6' 3" 180lbs.
Kansas
How did that 2010-2011 year in Self's system do for Selby and Tyshawn's draft status?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 29, 2011, 10:12:29 AM
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 29, 2011, 10:14:36 AM
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 29, 2011, 11:08:02 AM
"How many years of destroying my dreams until I'm a lifetime sandwich artist Massa?"
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Lol
What a horrible human being. Sad part is, next year he will actually need a top recruit to play so he won't get the Selby treatment. You can't stop the machine guys, just get out of the way.
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Post by: kstater on March 29, 2011, 11:53:25 AM
To be fair, I don't think Seff has had enough time to ruin Selby yet:eek:
Post by: Trim on March 29, 2011, 12:42:38 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 29, 2011, 01:54:26 PM
I can't believe Seff's presser today wasn't the basis for this thread being bumped.
What did he say?
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2011, 01:59:55 PM
I can't believe Seff's presser today wasn't the basis for this thread being bumped.
What did he say?
He said that all his "NBA" kids are horrible and need to stay to improve.
Post by: mcmwcat on March 29, 2011, 02:01:17 PM
When Frank destroys a kid's draft status he goes all the way and just ends up destroying the kids life. Lesson learned. Self just hangs that carrot in front of his work horses long enough for them to his work for them. Frank has a lot to learn
Post by: KSU187 on March 29, 2011, 02:02:01 PM
I can't believe Seff's presser today wasn't the basis for this thread being bumped.
What did he say?
He was all like: "You don't know what is gonna happen with that NBA lockout.. All the owners, experts, general managers, and agents who I have talked to say its gonna happen. Rookies wont get any playing time next year... just sayin'" :shy:
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 29, 2011, 02:05:07 PM
Quote
Self on Selby: "I think he's a very talented kid. We saw that early in the year. He lost confidence due to injury. He's going to be fine."
Self on Robinson: "He has the most room to improve. He can take a leap like Markieff did this year..."
"Marcus needs to improve his perimeter skills. He needs to be a three." -Self
"If you don't go in the first round, you wasted it." - Self
Self: "The big thing is to have an open line of communication with them and their families."
Self: "If someone is going to go, I'd want to know right now. In a perfect world, I'd like the guys who can return...to return"
What a monster. Feel bad for T-Rob, Selby, hell, even the twins, I really do.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 29, 2011, 02:06:19 PM
Quote
@KansasSports Self talking about troubles of guys leaving early with an imminent NBA lockout.
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Post by: doom on March 29, 2011, 02:09:23 PM
QuoteSelf on Selby: "I think he's a very talented kid. We saw that early in the year. He lost confidence due to injury. He's going to be fine."
Self on Robinson: "He has the most room to improve. He can take a leap like Markieff did this year..."
"Marcus needs to improve his perimeter skills. He needs to be a three." -Self
"If you don't go in the first round, you wasted it." - Self
Self: "The big thing is to have an open line of communication with them and their families."
Self: "If someone is going to go, I'd want to know right now. In a perfect world, I'd like the guys who can return...to return"
What a monster. Feel bad for T-Rob, Selby, hell, even the twins, I really do.
I feel worse for the poor kids from NJIT who will get elbowed to death in the phog.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 29, 2011, 02:39:03 PM
QuoteSelf on Selby: "I think he's a very talented kid. We saw that early in the year. He lost confidence due to injury. He's going to be fine."
Self on Robinson: "He has the most room to improve. He can take a leap like Markieff did this year..."
"Marcus needs to improve his perimeter skills. He needs to be a three." -Self
"If you don't go in the first round, you wasted it." - Self
Self: "The big thing is to have an open line of communication with them and their families."
Self: "If someone is going to go, I'd want to know right now. In a perfect world, I'd like the guys who can return...to return"
What a monster. Feel bad for T-Rob, Selby, hell, even the twins, I really do.
It's like the changing of the seasons, the sun rising in the east, taxes and death.
Bill Self will always publically trash his own players' abilities after the season is over in order to plant seeds with any NBA scouts.
Post by: KSU-Krazie on March 29, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
QuoteSelf on Selby: "I think he's a very talented kid. We saw that early in the year. He lost confidence due to injury. He's going to be fine."
Self on Robinson: "He has the most room to improve. He can take a leap like Markieff did this year..."
"Marcus needs to improve his perimeter skills. He needs to be a three." -Self
"If you don't go in the first round, you wasted it." - Self
Self: "The big thing is to have an open line of communication with them and their families."
Self: "If someone is going to go, I'd want to know right now. In a perfect world, I'd like the guys who can return...to return"
What a monster. Feel bad for T-Rob, Selby, hell, even the twins, I really do.
It's like the changing of the seasons, the sun rising in the east, taxes and death.
Bill Self will always publically trash his own players' abilities after the season is over in order to plant seeds with any NBA scouts.
Wasn't there an exact quote from Massa Self earlier this year that Marcus was the most talented player he has ever coached? Seems like the most talented player wouldn't have problems with being a three.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 29, 2011, 04:51:06 PM
It was Selby.QuoteSelf on Selby: "I think he's a very talented kid. We saw that early in the year. He lost confidence due to injury. He's going to be fine."
Self on Robinson: "He has the most room to improve. He can take a leap like Markieff did this year..."
"Marcus needs to improve his perimeter skills. He needs to be a three." -Self
"If you don't go in the first round, you wasted it." - Self
Self: "The big thing is to have an open line of communication with them and their families."
Self: "If someone is going to go, I'd want to know right now. In a perfect world, I'd like the guys who can return...to return"
What a monster. Feel bad for T-Rob, Selby, hell, even the twins, I really do.
It's like the changing of the seasons, the sun rising in the east, taxes and death.
Bill Self will always publically trash his own players' abilities after the season is over in order to plant seeds with any NBA scouts.
Wasn't there an exact quote from Massa Self earlier this year that Marcus was the most talented player he has ever coached? Seems like the most talented player wouldn't have problems with being a three.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 29, 2011, 04:54:43 PM
It was Selby.QuoteSelf on Selby: "I think he's a very talented kid. We saw that early in the year. He lost confidence due to injury. He's going to be fine."
Self on Robinson: "He has the most room to improve. He can take a leap like Markieff did this year..."
"Marcus needs to improve his perimeter skills. He needs to be a three." -Self
"If you don't go in the first round, you wasted it." - Self
Self: "The big thing is to have an open line of communication with them and their families."
Self: "If someone is going to go, I'd want to know right now. In a perfect world, I'd like the guys who can return...to return"
What a monster. Feel bad for T-Rob, Selby, hell, even the twins, I really do.
It's like the changing of the seasons, the sun rising in the east, taxes and death.
Bill Self will always publically trash his own players' abilities after the season is over in order to plant seeds with any NBA scouts.
Wasn't there an exact quote from Massa Self earlier this year that Marcus was the most talented player he has ever coached? Seems like the most talented player wouldn't have problems with being a three.
That was most talented recruit. I'm pretty sure he called Marcus some version of greatest player he has coached.
Post by: EMAWzified on March 29, 2011, 04:55:27 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 29, 2011, 04:56:15 PM
Post by: Ira Hayes on March 29, 2011, 05:04:52 PM
Maybe the kids he recruits are just really, really stupid. :dunno:
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 29, 2011, 05:07:30 PM
Maybe it isn't Bill Self that is "ruining" these kids.
Maybe the kids he recruits are just really, really stupid. :dunno:
wrong. he ruins them.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 29, 2011, 05:08:56 PM
Are sure Cartier? Pretty sure this was when Selby was sitting and not playing (for KU).
i don't know. maybe. whatev. either way he's a monster, a racist, and needs to be stopped.
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2011, 05:13:48 PM
QuoteSelf on Selby: "I think he's a very talented kid. We saw that early in the year. He lost confidence due to injury. He's going to be fine."
Self on Robinson: "He has the most room to improve. He can take a leap like Markieff did this year..."
"Marcus needs to improve his perimeter skills. He needs to be a three." -Self
"If you don't go in the first round, you wasted it." - Self
Self: "The big thing is to have an open line of communication with them and their families."
Self: "If someone is going to go, I'd want to know right now. In a perfect world, I'd like the guys who can return...to return"
What a monster. Feel bad for T-Rob, Selby, hell, even the twins, I really do.
It's like the changing of the seasons, the sun rising in the east, taxes and death.
Bill Self will always publically trash his own players' abilities after the season is over in order to plant seeds with any NBA scouts.
Wasn't there an exact quote from Massa Self earlier this year that Marcus was the most talented player he has ever coached? Seems like the most talented player wouldn't have problems with being a three.
I remember this too.
Post by: ednksu on March 29, 2011, 05:48:19 PM
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 29, 2011, 05:50:37 PM
I'm 99% sure Self said one of the morris twins was the most talented player he has had
Maybe he can't tell the difference between them :opcat:
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 29, 2011, 05:59:25 PM
QuoteSelf on Selby: "I think he's a very talented kid. We saw that early in the year. He lost confidence due to injury. He's going to be fine."
Self on Robinson: "He has the most room to improve. He can take a leap like Markieff did this year..."
"Marcus needs to improve his perimeter skills. He needs to be a three." -Self
"If you don't go in the first round, you wasted it." - Self
Self: "The big thing is to have an open line of communication with them and their families."
Self: "If someone is going to go, I'd want to know right now. In a perfect world, I'd like the guys who can return...to return"
What a monster. Feel bad for T-Rob, Selby, hell, even the twins, I really do.
JFC!! Do they have a good orphanage in Lawrence while Trob "improves" next year?? Absolutely sickening. :curse: (ftp://:curse:)
Post by: catzacker on March 29, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
Post by: pike on March 29, 2011, 08:47:05 PM
Post by: FHSU92 on March 29, 2011, 09:16:43 PM
The players he recruits are not only extraordinarily stupid, but extremely manipulative too.
And this is surprising given the work they did to get "Wut" on-campus and then left him out to dry in the draft when they could have cleared up the medical "misunderstanding".
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 29, 2011, 09:31:44 PM
The players he recruits are not only extraordinarily stupid, but easiextremely manipulativeed too.
FYP
Post by: Rams on March 29, 2011, 09:55:47 PM
It's really appalling, but you gotta give it to the guy. He's really, really good at this crap. Kinda similar to how Hitler was really, really good at killing Jews.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 29, 2011, 11:04:26 PM
Klink mentioned on BITB today that after the official presser Seff stood around and answered more informal questions. Said the topic of T-Rob to the NBA came up and Seff seemed really taken aback by the idea that he would leave for the NBA. As if it's not even an option for him and he's so not ready that it's not even worth considering.
It's really appalling, but you gotta give it to the guy. He's really, really good at this cac. Kinda similar to how Hitler was really, really good at killing Jews.
let's get these guys in there
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Post by: Bookcat on March 30, 2011, 06:58:49 PM
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QuoteThere’s a chance these kids could actually declare and not get paid,” he said. “And an agent could say, well, you’re still closer to your second contract. Somebody else could say how do you make your second contract when you don’t get in the games?”
Quote
From a common-sense standpoint, not that I have much, but if there is a lockout and the season doesn’t start until February or whenever it would be, it’s hard for these young kids to go in when there’s no training camp and there’s no practice time, to show they need to be playing in games when the playoffs are only three months away,” Self said. “It could be a lost season for some of those guys because there’s not going to be an opportunity to grow and learn and play through mistakes when you’re playing five games a week and you’ve got to win.”
the massa
Post by: CatsFan_58 on March 30, 2011, 07:24:11 PM
My Lord... He is extremely desperate.QuoteQuoteThere’s a chance these kids could actually declare and not get paid,” he said. “And an agent could say, well, you’re still closer to your second contract. Somebody else could say how do you make your second contract when you don’t get in the games?”QuoteFrom a common-sense standpoint, not that I have much, but if there is a lockout and the season doesn’t start until February or whenever it would be, it’s hard for these young kids to go in when there’s no training camp and there’s no practice time, to show they need to be playing in games when the playoffs are only three months away,” Self said. “It could be a lost season for some of those guys because there’s not going to be an opportunity to grow and learn and play through mistakes when you’re playing five games a week and you’ve got to win.”
the massa
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2011, 08:15:37 PM
QuoteQuoteThere’s a chance these kids could actually declare and not get paid,” he said. “And an agent could say, well, you’re still closer to your second contract. Somebody else could say how do you make your second contract when you don’t get in the games?”QuoteFrom a common-sense standpoint, not that I have much, but if there is a lockout and the season doesn’t start until February or whenever it would be, it’s hard for these young kids to go in when there’s no training camp and there’s no practice time, to show they need to be playing in games when the playoffs are only three months away,” Self said. “It could be a lost season for some of those guys because there’s not going to be an opportunity to grow and learn and play through mistakes when you’re playing five games a week and you’ve got to win.”
the massa
self will scare the sh*t out of them with the potential lockout. then give them some bs about improving their draft stock and dollars, forgetting what they leave on the table for a year.
Post by: pike on March 30, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
QuoteQuoteThere’s a chance these kids could actually declare and not get paid,” he said. “And an agent could say, well, you’re still closer to your second contract. Somebody else could say how do you make your second contract when you don’t get in the games?”QuoteFrom a common-sense standpoint, not that I have much, but if there is a lockout and the season doesn’t start until February or whenever it would be, it’s hard for these young kids to go in when there’s no training camp and there’s no practice time, to show they need to be playing in games when the playoffs are only three months away,” Self said. “It could be a lost season for some of those guys because there’s not going to be an opportunity to grow and learn and play through mistakes when you’re playing five games a week and you’ve got to win.”
the massaself will scare the sh*t out of them with the potential lockout. then give them some bs about improving their draft stock and dollars, forgetting what they leave on the table for a year.
Clockwork
Post by: Cackle on March 30, 2011, 10:30:11 PM
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I think they will all return because I don't think they will have a choice
quote from the phog. someone isn't in denial of massa's dealings
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 30, 2011, 11:13:59 PM
QuoteI think they will all return because I don't think they will have a choice
quote from the phog. someone isn't in denial of massa's dealings
They should start making these shirts blue and red.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 30, 2011, 11:18:10 PM
Yes you are, Thomas. Yes you are. :cry:
Post by: deputy dawg on March 31, 2011, 12:33:15 PM
Recruiting trip to get more in the pipeline
Post by: Pete on March 31, 2011, 12:47:28 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 01:04:35 PM
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 31, 2011, 01:10:05 PM
put thomas' head on the kid
And Shelbys' moms head on the women.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 31, 2011, 02:18:04 PM
Post by: MidnightOil82 on March 31, 2011, 03:24:24 PM
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Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 03:27:56 PM
Post by: felix rex on March 31, 2011, 05:55:22 PM
that was well done
Agreed. Can't wait for my dad to forward it to me in a week.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 31, 2011, 06:22:22 PM
Post by: Bookcat on April 05, 2011, 10:25:25 PM
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"As far as school work, he is OK there," Self said of Selby "He has put himself in a position he could afford to miss a few days. He will need to get back by next week."
Man, Selby must be really a hard worker in the classrom to miss a few days. Prolly why he suffered on the court. Too much time in the library.
Post by: 8manpick on April 07, 2011, 09:41:41 AM
that was well done
Agreed. Can't wait for my dad to forward it to me in a week.
My dad (went to KU) forwarded it to me a few days ago. Good call.
Post by: goCats101 on April 07, 2011, 02:17:39 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:Quote"As far as school work, he is OK there," Self said of Selby "He has put himself in a position he could afford to miss a few days. He will need to get back by next week."
Man, Selby must be really a hard worker in the classrom to miss a few days. Prolly why he suffered on the court. Too much time in the library.
Seriously, who is Self trying to fool? Selby has mentally checked himself out of school for a while now. :rolleyes:
Post by: CNS on April 07, 2011, 02:19:34 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:Quote"As far as school work, he is OK there," Self said of Selby "He has put himself in a position he could afford to miss a few days. He will need to get back by next week."
Man, Selby must be really a hard worker in the classrom to miss a few days. Prolly why he suffered on the court. Too much time in the library.
Seriously, who is Self trying to fool? Selby has mentally checked himself out of school for a while now. :rolleyes:
Self has to cover the program's butt as to why Selby passes his classes this semester. Otherwise, don't they lose the 'ship? Pretty sure that if someone transfers or jumps early that they lose the 'ship if that player wasn't in good academic standing. Could be wrong..
Post by: CNS on April 07, 2011, 04:49:25 PM
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goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Kansas' Marcus and Markieff Morris both gone. Just got a release both have signed with agent Tony Dutt.
Post by: catzacker on April 07, 2011, 05:11:27 PM
Quotegoodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Kansas' Marcus and Markieff Morris both gone. Just got a release both have signed with agent Tony Dutt.
harriet tubman doing work.
Post by: kcpowercat on April 07, 2011, 08:17:27 PM
We know Self's history.
My guess is Mongoloid #1 will follow #2 wherever he lands in Europe...you know they can't be apart. It's like ET and that weird kid.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 03, 2013, 01:15:45 PM
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 03, 2013, 01:16:49 PM
Post by: OregonSmock on March 03, 2013, 01:19:43 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on March 03, 2013, 01:21:06 PM
Selby spent more time in the NBA than Pullen ever did.
OK
Post by: p1k3 on March 03, 2013, 01:21:31 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on March 03, 2013, 01:24:38 PM
Selby spent more time in the NBA than Pullen ever did.was Selby's contract guaranteed? Jake may actually more :kstategrad:
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Post by: OregonSmock on March 03, 2013, 01:28:57 PM
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on March 03, 2013, 01:29:44 PM
Selby's ? :facepalm:
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 03, 2013, 01:30:41 PM
It's pretty incredible that a one year bust who no one really gives a crap about is still deep inside your heads. Such a weird fanbase.
It's crazy how big of a gap there is between college basketball and the NBA. Selby comes into our house, teabags Pullen all over the place, and can't even make it in the league. Basketball's a crazy game.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 03, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
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Jeff Goodman ?@GoodmanCBS
@GaryParrishCBS Why are you continuing to waste 140 characters on Josh Selby?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: OregonSmock on March 03, 2013, 01:35:18 PM
Pullen's jersey will someday be hanging in OOD.
Selby's ? :facepalm:
I'd rather have $5 than a jersey hanging in the OOD.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 03, 2013, 01:38:45 PM
Pullen's jersey will someday be hanging in OOD.
Selby's ? :facepalm:
I'd rather have $5 than a jersey hanging in the OOD.
So would Selby, I bet. Tough time to be unemployed.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 03, 2013, 01:39:02 PM
Pullen's jersey will someday be hanging in OOD.
Selby's ? :facepalm:
I'd rather have $5 than a jersey hanging in the OOD.
Sad how that Kansas degree has you scraping for $5
Post by: OregonSmock on March 03, 2013, 01:40:08 PM
Pullen's jersey will someday be hanging in OOD.
Selby's ? :facepalm:
I'd rather have $5 than a jersey hanging in the OOD.
So would Selby, I bet. Tough time to be unemployed.
Maybe Pullen can give him advice on what washed up college basketball players should do when they're not good enough for the NBA.
Post by: CNS on March 03, 2013, 01:42:12 PM
Post by: catzacker on March 03, 2013, 01:42:39 PM
Pullen's jersey will someday be hanging in OOD.
Selby's ? :facepalm:
I'd rather have $5 than a jersey hanging in the OOD.
So would Selby, I bet. Tough time to be unemployed.
Maybe Pullen can give him advice on what washed up college basketball players should do when they're not good enough for the NBA.
make a lot of money playing basketball?
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 03, 2013, 01:43:59 PM
It's pretty incredible that a one year bust who no one really gives a crap about is still deep inside your heads. Such a weird fanbase.
geeze. I'm sure Selby is a very nice young man. So sad to see him trashed by his own fans!
Post by: OregonSmock on March 03, 2013, 01:45:44 PM
:lol:
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 03, 2013, 01:47:20 PM
Post by: OregonSmock on March 03, 2013, 01:48:02 PM
Just another McDonald's All-American ruined by Bill Self. Move along now, nothing to see here.
HUR HUR HUR
Post by: CNS on March 03, 2013, 01:49:00 PM
Just another McDonald's All-American ruined by Bill Self. Move along now, nothing to see here.
Monster.
Post by: OregonSmock on March 03, 2013, 01:50:34 PM
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 03, 2013, 01:52:20 PM
The year is 2013 and K-State fans are still obsessing over Josh rough ridin' Selby.
:lol:
The year is 2013 and KU fans are still obsessing over Jake rough ridin' Pullen
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 03, 2013, 01:53:00 PM
Just another McDonald's All-American ruined by Bill Self. Move along now, nothing to see here.
HUR HUR HUR
I'd be butthurt too, Beems. Pretty sad to see him take advantage of 18 year olds like that. Ironically, he does the same thing on Mass Street every Friday and Saturday night.
Post by: OregonSmock on March 03, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
The year is 2013 and K-State fans are still obsessing over Josh rough ridin' Selby.
:lol:
The year is 2013 and KU fans are still obsessing over Jake rough ridin' Pullen
Except opposite.
Post by: kim carnes on March 03, 2013, 01:53:49 PM
Post by: OregonSmock on March 03, 2013, 01:54:57 PM
butthurt city; population: goEMAW
Seriously. Bringing back old threads from three years ago? Yikes.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 03, 2013, 01:56:41 PM
butthurt city; population: goEMAW
Seriously. Bringing back old threads from three years ago? Yikes.
It's lonely, and therefore boring, at the top, Beems. Hopefully KU fans will understand what I mean by "the top" someday.
Post by: kim carnes on March 03, 2013, 01:57:33 PM
butthurt city; population: goEMAW
Seriously. Bringing back old threads from three years ago? Yikes.
oregonsmock bringing the butthurt!
Post by: OregonSmock on March 03, 2013, 01:58:04 PM
butthurt city; population: goEMAW
Seriously. Bringing back old threads from three years ago? Yikes.
It's lonely, and therefore boring, at the top, Beems. Hopefully KU fans will understand what I mean by "the top" someday.
wut
:flush:
Post by: kim carnes on March 03, 2013, 02:00:03 PM
butthurt city; population: goEMAW
Seriously. Bringing back old threads from three years ago? Yikes.
It's lonely, and therefore boring, at the top, Beems. Hopefully KU fans will understand what I mean by "the top" someday.
wut
:flush:
who is more butthurt? beems or goEMAW? this is close
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 03, 2013, 02:04:46 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 03, 2013, 07:32:55 PM
It's pretty incredible that a one year bust who no one really gives a crap about is still deep inside your heads. Such a weird fanbase.
I mean...how can you treat a former player like that. Truly disgusting. :frown:
Post by: ednksu on March 03, 2013, 07:37:24 PM
does this mean we'll get pics of you in argyle sweaters with your filly?butthurt city; population: goEMAW
Seriously. Bringing back old threads from three years ago? Yikes.
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Post by: ksu1420 on November 15, 2014, 08:59:26 AM
Freshman wing Kelly Oubre played just four minutes and sat the entire second half during Kansas’ 69-59 win Friday. Oubre, a McDonald’s All-American wing, is still trying to find comfort in Kansas’ system.“It was a coach’s decision,” Self said, “just trying to do what’s best for our team. It’s not a knock to Kelly. It’s just, he’s young.”
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Post by: steve dave on November 15, 2014, 09:02:02 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 15, 2014, 09:09:48 AM
Prolly didn't play a lot for another reason....
:Wha:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 15, 2014, 09:25:31 AM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on November 15, 2014, 10:19:35 AM
What if Oubre is a bust? :frown:
False, Self is going to bust him. It has already started.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 16, 2014, 09:40:50 PM
What if Oubre is a bust? :frown:
What if he busts girl's faces?
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2014, 10:00:54 PM
What if Oubre is a bust? :frown:
What if he busts girl's faces?
i think it's more of a question of "when" and not "what if" :frown:
Post by: The Big Train on November 16, 2014, 10:07:56 PM
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 22, 2016, 09:59:50 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 22, 2016, 10:33:54 AM
Post by: slobber on May 22, 2016, 11:20:27 AM
Who the eff was Oubre?I have honestly never heard of him.
Post by: 8manpick on May 22, 2016, 12:13:16 PM
Who the eff was Oubre?Some chick in Nevada I think
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 22, 2016, 12:24:36 PM
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Post by: Brock Landers on May 23, 2016, 09:39:13 AM
The lengths that the Massa will go to. http://www2.kusports.com/news/2016/may/21/brannen-greene-escapes-burning-car/
Holy crap Self is putting hits out on guys now. He's moved to another level.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2016, 09:54:25 AM
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/807250457760530432
Post by: Tobias on December 09, 2016, 09:55:17 AM
Post by: mhkpasa on December 09, 2016, 09:55:52 AM
FOE
Post by: pissclams on December 09, 2016, 10:15:47 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2016, 10:56:52 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2016, 11:28:39 AM
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Also, it appears he was released without having to post a money bond, so that would indicate that no one actually got injured. Domestic assaults can sometimes be primarily verbal with a little pushing and shoving.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2016, 11:30:02 AM
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Yep..someone I know was arrested for grabbing another persons arm when they were trying to take something from him. That's right...for grabbing their arm.
Kansas is one of the states where it's mandatory to arrest someone if it's reported and then ask questions later.
Some laws are just plain stupid.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2016, 11:35:17 AM
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Bragg hasn't seemed focused on the court or dialed in since the start of the season.. this has probably been a problem for him for awhile.
Maybe whatever led to this is out of his system and he can get back to playing basketball.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2016, 11:37:07 AM
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This whole thing is bizarre. In the annual hoops publication put out by the LJW, Bragg said what he likes about KU is how safe he feels. He has lost a couple of friends to gunfire back in Cleveland and appreciates the environment here.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2016, 11:42:27 AM
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This is how it works: Any guy can get into an argument with a woman in public and she can push him and then he can push her arm away - and her friend can witness it and call the cops and her friend can say that "he pushed her arm away" and that's enough for him to get arrested for domestic battery. Then, the law says he has to see a magistrate before release. BUT, that magistrate can read the report and say it's just Disorderly Conduct and set a 0$ bail and release him immediately. At best, it's just an embarrassment for Bragg. At worst there was actual malicious intent and there will be further judicial action. But, believe it or not, just because he was arrested and spent the night in jail doesn't mean he'll actually be charged with what he was arrested for. Cops have no choice but to make an arrest in some cases (with DB reports). But, that doesn't necessarily mean DB occurred. So, just chill out and wait to see what happens this morning when he sees the magistrate and the case is reviewed and charges are actually filed vs an arrest being made.
Post by: Brock Landers on December 09, 2016, 11:48:13 AM
Post by: pissclams on December 09, 2016, 12:09:12 PM
for example, he could hire CJ Giles criminal defense attorney
they really treat their women like crap in that town
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 09, 2016, 02:15:42 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2016, 02:23:37 PM
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One thing I don't understand about domestic violence (really assault on a female that you know) is looked at so differently than other assaults. We all agree if he put his hand on his girl, that is despicable behavior, and maybe he does deserve to get booted from the squad. But why is it looked at in such a different light than getting into a fight when a man? If he would have punched some guy and broke his noise and teeth, he would not get kicked off the team. We seem to think that behavior is more acceptable. The view we SHOULD have is that they are BOTH unacceptable.
For example, Tiger Woods got hit in the head with a golf club by his wife. Nobody cared. Blake Griffin (who is a massive man) punched a team manager (a much smaller man) and broke his jaw and injured him greatly. Instead of Griffin being booted from the team, or the NBA, he was barely disciplined and the Clippers fired the team manager at the end of the year, NOT Blake Griffin. If he had done that to a woman, he would have been kicked out of the NBA.
Post by: renocat on December 09, 2016, 04:14:31 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2016, 04:20:29 PM
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Allegedly, he hit his girlfriend and pushed her down some stairs.
Post by: Brock Landers on December 09, 2016, 04:24:28 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2016, 04:28:14 PM
Post by: mhkpasa on December 09, 2016, 04:30:14 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2016, 04:31:27 PM
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Now, before we all jump to conclusions ... what was the GF's role in this? Did she assault him first, was he reacting to her, did she antagonize him like some women have a tendency to do? Take Ray Rice, for instance. His wife repeatedly hit him, got in his face, cussed him out nose to nose, and spit on him. He'd had enough, he decked her. Not that I condone hitting women, but some of them deserve it because they don't know when to quit.
Post by: mhkpasa on December 09, 2016, 04:32:42 PM
OMG!QuoteNow, before we all jump to conclusions ... what was the GF's role in this? Did she assault him first, was he reacting to her, did she antagonize him like some women have a tendency to do? Take Ray Rice, for instance. His wife repeatedly hit him, got in his face, cussed him out nose to nose, and spit on him. He'd had enough, he decked her. Not that I condone hitting women, but some of them deserve it because they don't know when to quit.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2016, 04:43:01 PM
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5280Jayhawks wrote:
I am staring at a picture of my daughter, next to the computer as I type this. I would phucking kill him. No excuse for this type of chit.
But what if what really happened is that she took a swing at him and broke her hand on his iron-clad Jaw, and the impact pushed her back down some stairs as if she was Keanu Reeves in "The Matrix" dodging a bullet?
Would you still kill him?
Post by: star seed 7 on December 09, 2016, 04:56:24 PM
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Post by: CatMission on December 09, 2016, 08:19:42 PM
Student section should wear tank top undershirts (aka wife beaters) with Carlton written on the back to the ku game to raise awareness for shitheads that knock around women and then laugh about it.This.
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Post by: Trim on December 09, 2016, 10:13:57 PM
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Post by: Shooter Jones on May 25, 2017, 10:43:38 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article152494254.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article152494254.html)
Post by: Shooter Jones on May 25, 2017, 10:50:25 AM
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Post by: Winters on May 25, 2017, 10:54:07 AM
My god, I hadn't really ever looked at him, but he's so god damn KU it isn't fun. Chinstrap beard, wears t-shirt at the pool, etc. (minus the language thing)He has completely assimilated.
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Post by: pissclams on February 06, 2018, 07:34:45 PM
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Post by: Skipper44 on February 06, 2018, 07:38:25 PM
Post by: The Big Train on February 06, 2018, 09:35:21 PM
6-9 with the afro
He's at least 7'2"