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Title: Aliens
Post by: EllToPay on August 04, 2010, 09:47:39 AM
Real or not? I'm thinking real. I imagine they look something like humans, except with three ears.

:users:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 10:06:16 AM
Sucks that we'll never know  :cry:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Gooch on August 04, 2010, 10:22:40 AM
Rus-Rob? :dunno:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Stupid Fitz on August 04, 2010, 01:02:04 PM
I'm going real. I think they got that dood that was missing in Lenexa for a week. No way he was lost in the park.
  :jeffy:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: cas4ksu on August 04, 2010, 01:03:07 PM
Great, great thread.

I'm going real.

I like to imagine my aliens with three arms.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Pete on August 04, 2010, 01:21:07 PM
Sucks that we'll never know  :cry:

Jesus, you are so rough ridin' naive.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 04, 2010, 01:25:30 PM
Real. No questions asked.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: MeatSauce on August 04, 2010, 01:28:03 PM
You would have to be incredibly naive and possibly arrogant to subscribe to the belief that there isn't any other "intelligent" (humanlike) life somewhere out there in the Universe. :users:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 04, 2010, 01:29:15 PM
Element 115.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on August 04, 2010, 02:38:22 PM
REal I have a whole family of them living down the street.  They can pack like 15 people aliens into a ford focus.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: CHONGS on August 04, 2010, 03:02:34 PM
None have visited here or probably even know we exist.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: EllToPay on August 04, 2010, 03:03:51 PM
You would have to be incredibly naive and possibly arrogant to subscribe to the belief that there isn't any other "intelligent" (humanlike) life somewhere out there in the Universe. :users:

What if you believe God only created life on this planet? Is that naive?
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 04, 2010, 03:05:05 PM
You would have to be incredibly naive and possibly arrogant to subscribe to the belief that there isn't any other "intelligent" (humanlike) life somewhere out there in the Universe. :users:

What if you believe God only created life on this planet? Is that naive?
Yes.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: EllToPay on August 04, 2010, 03:11:11 PM
You would have to be incredibly naive and possibly arrogant to subscribe to the belief that there isn't any other "intelligent" (humanlike) life somewhere out there in the Universe. :users:

What if you believe God only created life on this planet? Is that naive?
Yes.


oh...well ok then
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: MeatSauce on August 04, 2010, 03:13:30 PM
You would have to be incredibly naive and possibly arrogant to subscribe to the belief that there isn't any other "intelligent" (humanlike) life somewhere out there in the Universe. :users:

What if you believe God only created life on this planet? Is that naive?

In my opinion, absolutely.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 04, 2010, 03:16:40 PM
no. jmo.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: krazykat on August 04, 2010, 04:09:59 PM
You would have to be incredibly naive and possibly arrogant to subscribe to the belief that there isn't any other "intelligent" (humanlike) life somewhere out there in the Universe. :users:

^ this.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: cas4ksu on August 04, 2010, 10:58:30 PM
I like to imagine my aliens with three arms.

Would really like to get some elite alien opinion here.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Cire on August 04, 2010, 11:03:52 PM
won't believe it till i see it.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: hemmy on August 04, 2010, 11:04:46 PM
I learned on the History Channel that humans were actually really dumb, and then aliens came down and had sex with us to make us learn math and physics.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: EllToPay on August 05, 2010, 04:18:41 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/churchill-ufo-winston-churchill-order-ufo-cover-avoid/story?id=11333892

:runaway:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Benja on August 05, 2010, 04:40:04 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/churchill-ufo-winston-churchill-order-ufo-cover-avoid/story?id=11333892

:runaway:

well, there's tons of evidence that the Nazi's experimented with building flying saucers during WWII, including a bunch of other wacky crap... :dunno:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: jtksu on August 05, 2010, 04:45:24 PM
Speaking of naïve, why would intelligent life have to be humanlike? 
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 05, 2010, 04:47:34 PM
Speaking of naïve, why would intelligent life have to be humanlike? 
We are decendents of an extraterrestrial race.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: AbeFroman on August 05, 2010, 04:49:20 PM
If by Aliens you mean infinite parallel universes, then yes.

Cowboy Hat parallel Universe FTW
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: _33 on August 05, 2010, 04:57:53 PM
Wow.  Didn't know there were actually real people who believe aliens exist.  You have to be kidding me.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: jtksu on August 05, 2010, 05:53:40 PM
The universe is basically inifinte. To assume the entire universe has zero other living beings is pretty silly.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Benja on August 05, 2010, 06:07:53 PM
Wow.  Didn't know there were actually real people who believe aliens exist.  You have to be kidding me.

Are you sorta dumb?
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: DQ12 on August 05, 2010, 06:08:54 PM
Stephen Hawking is almost certain that other life-forms must exist.  So I'm going to go ahead and place myself in his camp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2oYS9-Ee9U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2oYS9-Ee9U)
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: _33 on August 05, 2010, 06:19:25 PM
The universe is basically inifinte. To assume the entire universe has zero other living beings is pretty silly.

pffffffft   :lol:

Hey guys what if Bigfoot and the Aliens get on the same team and attack us??!  Probably the only way to escape would be if the unicorns joined our side and flew us away to safety.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: CHONGS on August 05, 2010, 06:24:57 PM
Sounds like we need a new member group, Alien Junkies.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: DQ12 on August 05, 2010, 06:27:28 PM
The universe is basically inifinte. To assume the entire universe has zero other living beings is pretty silly.

pffffffft   :lol:

Hey guys what if Bigfoot and the Aliens get on the same team and attack us??!  Probably the only way to escape would be if the unicorns joined our side and flew us away to safety.
Don't even joke about that. :blank:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Benja on August 05, 2010, 06:28:44 PM
Scientists conservatively estimate there are about 10,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe that can be seen by our telescopes. Ten million billion planets. And that's only what can be seen, the actual number is probably a lot higher.

Even if it's very rare that planets support life and we assume only 1 in a million planets can, that's still 10 billion planets capable of producing life.

All stars start in the same way, with a bunch of hydrogen and helium left over, the two most common abundant materials in space and the basis of all llife as we know it. With this process repeated over and over again billions of times it's only reasonable to expect that many planets have lots of similar characteristics, and could support some form of life.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: CHONGS on August 05, 2010, 06:31:32 PM
Scientists conservatively estimate there are about 10,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe that can be seen by our telescopes. Ten million billion planets. And that's only what can be seen, the actual number is probably a lot higher.

Even if it's very rare that planets support life and we assume only 1 in a million planets can, that's still 10 billion planets capable of producing life.

All stars start in the same way, with a bunch of hydrogen and helium left over, the two most common abundant materials in space and the basis of all llife as we know it. With this process repeated over and over again billions of times it's only reasonable to expect that many planets have lots of similar characteristics, and could support some form of life.
Scientists :rolleyes: these are the same jokers who can't decide if Pluto is a planet.  Also carbon is the basis of life as we know it.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 05, 2010, 06:33:24 PM
place me in _33's camp. Love the videos.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Benja on August 05, 2010, 06:57:11 PM
Scientists conservatively estimate there are about 10,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe that can be seen by our telescopes. Ten million billion planets. And that's only what can be seen, the actual number is probably a lot higher.

Even if it's very rare that planets support life and we assume only 1 in a million planets can, that's still 10 billion planets capable of producing life.

All stars start in the same way, with a bunch of hydrogen and helium left over, the two most common abundant materials in space and the basis of all llife as we know it. With this process repeated over and over again billions of times it's only reasonable to expect that many planets have lots of similar characteristics, and could support some form of life.
Scientists :rolleyes: these are the same jokers who can't decide if Pluto is a planet.  Also carbon is the basis of life as we know it.

Hydrogen and helium were most abundant when the universe was formed and made up most of the ingredients of star formation. that's what I'm saying.

I agree about scientists and most theories. Lots of just guesswork out there, but we can see these fuckers with our own eyes (per se). There's a whole lotta them. Some k-state engineering dork needs to figure out the fusion reactor (don't we have a nuclear program) so we can go far enough to check them out. (probably should ask an oriental student since they all have sweet sweet math skills)
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: MeatSauce on August 05, 2010, 07:44:49 PM
 :cheers:
Speaking of naïve, why would intelligent life have to be humanlike? 

Good point.  I was a little vague.  I just mean lifeforms capable of cognisant thinking, rationalization, analytical skils, etc.  They could be amorphous blobs for all i know.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Benja on August 05, 2010, 08:25:06 PM
:cheers:
Speaking of naïve, why would intelligent life have to be humanlike? 

Good point.  I was a little vague.  I just mean lifeforms capable of cognisant thinking, rationalization, analytical skils, etc.  They could be amorphous blobs for all i know.

I see these every day

Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Pett on August 06, 2010, 12:11:29 AM
I could totally see this outcome coming out of this website... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: _33 on August 06, 2010, 09:50:20 AM
Guys, just thought of something.  What if Santa Claus is an alien?   :surprised:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: OK_Cat on August 06, 2010, 10:49:53 AM
Ho, Ho, Ho

I COME IN PEACE
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: wabash909 on August 06, 2010, 11:26:51 AM
I thought this was going to be a serious conversation about aliens.

Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: DILLIGAF on August 06, 2010, 02:01:59 PM
Look, I'm very religious and I know in my heart that God created billions of solar systems so that he could populate only one planet, Earth. 
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Benja on August 08, 2010, 04:17:34 AM
Look, I'm very religious and I know in my heart that God created billions of solar systems so that he could populate only one planet, Earth. 

Well, God's always been sort of an bad person.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 08, 2010, 06:52:44 AM
Lmao @ you church guys who laugh at the thought of aliens.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on August 08, 2010, 08:37:12 AM
I never saw anywhere in the Bible that said God didn't create life on other planets.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Cire on August 08, 2010, 08:51:08 AM
I never saw anywhere in the Bible that said God didn't create life on other planets.

exactly.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: DILLIGAF on August 08, 2010, 04:53:46 PM
Gawd dammit, the Bible gave us Jesus and there is only one Jesus, he died for US not some other damn alien God project.   :chainsaw:   Look, I'm Christian, I am special and God has a plan for me, and you if you just give your life over to him and accept his Son as your savior.   He is not off double-timing his chosen people for Christ's sake.   Next you'll be telling me there are other Satans or that our Satan is also fracking up all these supposed other alien God beings?!?   :curse:   Read your damn Bible people, does it say anything like "on the first day God created Earth, on the second he created AlienEarth, on the third he created AlienEarthII", hell no it doesn't.   Earth took a day, so by God so would each of these other people planets, so, ....wait a sec, he could have gone back to work on the 8th day and ........hang on, I better go talk with my Minister about this.    :runaway:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: jtksu on August 08, 2010, 04:55:37 PM
Pretty sweet special on ancient alien visitors on the History Channel.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 08, 2010, 05:16:38 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Benja on August 08, 2010, 05:46:53 PM
Gawd dammit, the Bible gave us Jesus and there is only one Jesus, he died for US not some other damn alien God project.   :chainsaw:   Look, I'm Christian, I am special and God has a plan for me, and you if you just give your life over to him and accept his Son as your savior.   He is not off double-timing his chosen people for Christ's sake.   Next you'll be telling me there are other Satans or that our Satan is also fracking up all these supposed other alien God beings?!?   :curse:   Read your damn Bible people, does it say anything like "on the first day God created Earth, on the second he created AlienEarth, on the third he created AlienEarthII", hell no it doesn't.   Earth took a day, so by God so would each of these other people planets, so, ....wait a sec, he could have gone back to work on the 8th day and ........hang on, I better go talk with my Minister about this.    :runaway:

Oh, you're being serious?
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: TBL on August 08, 2010, 10:22:30 PM
Gawd dammit, the Bible gave us Jesus and there is only one Jesus, he died for US not some other damn alien God project.   :chainsaw:   Look, I'm Christian, I am special and God has a plan for me, and you if you just give your life over to him and accept his Son as your savior.   He is not off double-timing his chosen people for Christ's sake.   Next you'll be telling me there are other Satans or that our Satan is also fracking up all these supposed other alien God beings?!?   :curse:   Read your damn Bible people, does it say anything like "on the first day God created Earth, on the second he created AlienEarth, on the third he created AlienEarthII", hell no it doesn't.   Earth took a day, so by God so would each of these other people planets, so, ....wait a sec, he could have gone back to work on the 8th day and ........hang on, I better go talk with my Minister about this.    :runaway:


jfc

I learned on the History Channel that humans were actually really dumb, and then aliens came down and had sex with us to make us learn math and physics.

Asians are aliens?   :runaway:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: The42Yardstick on August 08, 2010, 10:29:28 PM
Oh boy, I've always wanted to sit in on a special session of "Talking Religion With goEMAW.com"
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: BigCat on August 08, 2010, 10:54:12 PM
Alien life forms exist, at least if you do the math. A tiny portion would be intelligent. A tinier portion would be intelligent enough to contact us. Even fewer (maybe none?) would be able to visit us. The odds of aliens having been on this planet--much less mingled or having physical contact with humans--is essentially zero.

If you travelled 700 million light years and found a planet with intelligent life, do you think you would just duck in and duck out? No. Aliens would show up, say 'Hey you are idiots for supporting Obama, and also we come in peace.' No reason to drive that far and not be up front about it. :dunno:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: DILLIGAF on August 09, 2010, 12:58:58 PM
Okay, talked w/ the Minister, he said there are no aliens, not to worry about the math, that's just scientists using their scientific approach bullshit and stuff.  Shut the book on this one.   :pbj:   What the hell did Sagan know about planets and space and crap anyway, nothing that's what.   
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Saulbadguy on August 09, 2010, 02:43:13 PM
I never saw anywhere in the Bible that said God didn't create life on other planets.

exactly.
Interesting theory.

Surely, if Aliens did exist, and were created by the same God that created us, those Aliens would have a similar monotheistic belief structure as Christians/Jews/Muslims do on Earth?

If not, that would land a pretty severe blow to "faith" as we know it.

IMO.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: cas4ksu on August 09, 2010, 11:05:27 PM
Real question here folks: Do the aliens like the 'Cats?
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Benja on August 09, 2010, 11:24:07 PM
I never saw anywhere in the Bible that said God didn't create life on other planets.

exactly.
Interesting theory.

Surely, if Aliens did exist, and were created by the same God that created us, those Aliens would have a similar monotheistic belief structure as Christians/Jews/Muslims do on Earth?

If not, that would land a pretty severe blow to "faith" as we know it.

IMO.



Naw, wouldn't change a thing.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Trim on August 09, 2010, 11:24:44 PM
Real question here folks: Do the aliens like the 'Cats?

Aliens like the crap out of KSU.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: HeinBallz on August 10, 2010, 12:00:42 AM
Show me a person that's been abducted by aliens and I'll show you a person that suffers from Sleep paralysis. 


p.s.   Jesus was an alien.   We were clearly visited by alien life forms and our viewpoints of Christianity & God all derived from the fact that beings from the sky came down and visited back when people were impressionable.   case closed.  :users:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: jtksu on August 10, 2010, 12:22:19 AM
I suffer from sleep paralysis.  :hopingIdidntgetanallyprobed:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: KITNfury on August 10, 2010, 07:29:33 AM
Alien life forms exist, at least if you do the math. A tiny portion would be intelligent. A tinier portion would be intelligent enough to contact us. Even fewer (maybe none?) would be able to visit us. The odds of aliens having been on this planet--much less mingled or having physical contact with humans--is essentially zero.


Basically what I was going to say. I don't have any doubt there are other life forms out there, whether they've visited earth is another story. It's possible though. If a intelligent species can figure out wormholes, then it's just a matter of trial and error until you find a place like earth.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Saulbadguy on August 10, 2010, 07:33:45 AM
I never saw anywhere in the Bible that said God didn't create life on other planets.

exactly.
Interesting theory.

Surely, if Aliens did exist, and were created by the same God that created us, those Aliens would have a similar monotheistic belief structure as Christians/Jews/Muslims do on Earth?

If not, that would land a pretty severe blow to "faith" as we know it.

IMO.



Naw, wouldn't change a thing.
Yeah.  It's funny how belief structures and faith change over time even though history never does.  Faith will just adjust to explain that little oversight...i.e., "God created the Aliens, he just didn't tell them about it, because he favored us the most." 

That'll go over well.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: cas4ksu on August 10, 2010, 11:14:30 AM
Real question here folks: Do the aliens like the 'Cats?

Aliens like the crap out of KSU.

:combofanbutwithathirdhandbecausei'mprettysurethatalienshavethreehands:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: TBL on August 10, 2010, 02:37:33 PM
Real question here folks: Do the aliens like the 'Cats?

Aliens like the crap out of KSU.

:combofanbutwithathirdhandbecausei'mprettysurethatalienshavethreehands:


Makes it handy when you're surfing your porn, huh?
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Saulbadguy on August 10, 2010, 02:48:51 PM
Real question here folks: Do the aliens like the 'Cats?

Aliens like the crap out of KSU.

:combofanbutwithathirdhandbecausei'mprettysurethatalienshavethreehands:


Makes it handy when you're surfing your porn, huh?
Ok, creepster.  You are banned.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: bakerman on August 10, 2010, 03:04:10 PM
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978434683
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: EllToPay on August 10, 2010, 03:10:46 PM
Quote
If we take Stephen Hawking's warning to abandon the Earth seriously enough to stage a mission to Proxima Centauri to find a livable planet, with current rocket technology, it will take us 50,000 years to get there.

:eek:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: OK_Cat on August 10, 2010, 03:12:51 PM
road trip!
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Benja on August 10, 2010, 03:40:23 PM
I never saw anywhere in the Bible that said God didn't create life on other planets.

exactly.
Interesting theory.

Surely, if Aliens did exist, and were created by the same God that created us, those Aliens would have a similar monotheistic belief structure as Christians/Jews/Muslims do on Earth?

If not, that would land a pretty severe blow to "faith" as we know it.

IMO.



Naw, wouldn't change a thing.
Yeah.  It's funny how belief structures and faith change over time even though history never does.  Faith will just adjust to explain that little oversight...i.e., "God created the Aliens, he just didn't tell them about it, because he favored us the most." 

That'll go over well.

Yeah. Just like with the discovery of the dinosaurs, you know that little discovery that a whole other dominant species existed on this very planet hundreds of millions of years ago? That one really had people running from their churches and burning their bibles. Just like the other countless scientific facts and contradictions that people practicing faith have to ignore every day? (I come from a Christian family and respect people who hold onto strong faith, but that's just a fact.)

There's already people in this thread explaining how "the bible never explicitly states that their isn't alien life". Discovery of alien life would not change a thing. If anything, it would scare the hell out of everyone, especially if they come to us. We would flock to our synagogues/ temple's/mosques to ask our Buddha/Muhammad/Jesus/Sun God what we should do while the aliens power up their planet death ray.


Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Saulbadguy on August 10, 2010, 03:43:35 PM
I never saw anywhere in the Bible that said God didn't create life on other planets.

exactly.
Interesting theory.

Surely, if Aliens did exist, and were created by the same God that created us, those Aliens would have a similar monotheistic belief structure as Christians/Jews/Muslims do on Earth?

If not, that would land a pretty severe blow to "faith" as we know it.

IMO.



Naw, wouldn't change a thing.
Yeah.  It's funny how belief structures and faith change over time even though history never does.  Faith will just adjust to explain that little oversight...i.e., "God created the Aliens, he just didn't tell them about it, because he favored us the most." 

That'll go over well.

Yeah. Just like with the discovery of the dinosaurs, you know that little discovery that a whole other dominant species existed on this very planet hundreds of millions of years ago? That one really had people running from their churches and burning their bibles. Just like the other countless scientific facts and contradictions that people practicing faith have to ignore every day? (I come from a Christian family and respect people who hold onto strong faith, but that's just a fact.)

There's already people in this thread explaining how "the bible never explicitly states that their isn't alien life". Discovery of alien life would not change a thing. If anything, it would scare the hell out of everyone, especially if they come to us. We would flock to our synagogues/ temple's/mosques to ask our Buddha/Muhammad/Jesus/Sun God what we should do while the aliens power up their planet death ray.



Are you attempting to argue that faith hasn't changed dramatically over time?  It most certainly has.  It's too huge of a business to not adapt to the times.  If various faith based organizations tried to serve up the same message they did now as they did in the Crusades, they would lose customers.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: mjrod on August 10, 2010, 03:48:09 PM
I never saw anywhere in the Bible that said God didn't create life on other planets.

exactly.
Interesting theory.

Surely, if Aliens did exist, and were created by the same God that created us, those Aliens would have a similar monotheistic belief structure as Christians/Jews/Muslims do on Earth?

If not, that would land a pretty severe blow to "faith" as we know it.

IMO.



Naw, wouldn't change a thing.
Yeah.  It's funny how belief structures and faith change over time even though history never does.  Faith will just adjust to explain that little oversight...i.e., "God created the Aliens, he just didn't tell them about it, because he favored us the most." 

That'll go over well.

Yeah. Just like with the discovery of the dinosaurs, you know that little discovery that a whole other dominant species existed on this very planet hundreds of millions of years ago? That one really had people running from their churches and burning their bibles. Just like the other countless scientific facts and contradictions that people practicing faith have to ignore every day? (I come from a Christian family and respect people who hold onto strong faith, but that's just a fact.)

There's already people in this thread explaining how "the bible never explicitly states that their isn't alien life". Discovery of alien life would not change a thing. If anything, it would scare the hell out of everyone, especially if they come to us. We would flock to our synagogues/ temple's/mosques to ask our Buddha/Muhammad/Jesus/Sun God what we should do while the aliens power up their planet death ray.



Are you attempting to argue that faith hasn't changed dramatically over time?  It most certainly has.  It's too huge of a business to not adapt to the times.  If various faith based organizations tried to serve up the same message they did now as they did in the Crusades, they would lose customers.

The jew has a point...
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: ben ji on August 10, 2010, 04:28:15 PM
I never saw anywhere in the Bible that said God didn't create life on other planets.

exactly.
Interesting theory.

Surely, if Aliens did exist, and were created by the same God that created us, those Aliens would have a similar monotheistic belief structure as Christians/Jews/Muslims do on Earth?

If not, that would land a pretty severe blow to "faith" as we know it.

IMO.



Naw, wouldn't change a thing.
Yeah.  It's funny how belief structures and faith change over time even though history never does.  Faith will just adjust to explain that little oversight...i.e., "God created the Aliens, he just didn't tell them about it, because he favored us the most." 

That'll go over well.

Yeah. Just like with the discovery of the dinosaurs, you know that little discovery that a whole other dominant species existed on this very planet hundreds of millions of years ago? That one really had people running from their churches and burning their bibles. Just like the other countless scientific facts and contradictions that people practicing faith have to ignore every day? (I come from a Christian family and respect people who hold onto strong faith, but that's just a fact.)

There's already people in this thread explaining how "the bible never explicitly states that their isn't alien life". Discovery of alien life would not change a thing. If anything, it would scare the hell out of everyone, especially if they come to us. We would flock to our synagogues/ temple's/mosques to ask our Buddha/Muhammad/Jesus/Sun God what we should do while the aliens power up their planet death ray.




God-

Please do not confuse me with the hateful sinner Benja. ben ji is a completely different person who knows that you are all knowing and all powerful.

That is all
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: DILLIGAF on August 10, 2010, 04:32:12 PM
And don't try to tell me that the reason there are fish skeletons and other a marine fossils up there on that mountain is because of plate tectonics and continental upheaval, there was a flood, a very big flood, just thank Noah for saving all life. 
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 10, 2010, 04:33:27 PM
Great Thread!
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 10, 2010, 04:34:10 PM
Existence of aliens pretty much make the bible a big pile of BS.

Not a huge deal but it does.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Benja on August 10, 2010, 05:34:17 PM
I never saw anywhere in the Bible that said God didn't create life on other planets.

exactly.
Interesting theory.

Surely, if Aliens did exist, and were created by the same God that created us, those Aliens would have a similar monotheistic belief structure as Christians/Jews/Muslims do on Earth?

If not, that would land a pretty severe blow to "faith" as we know it.

IMO.



Naw, wouldn't change a thing.
Yeah.  It's funny how belief structures and faith change over time even though history never does.  Faith will just adjust to explain that little oversight...i.e., "God created the Aliens, he just didn't tell them about it, because he favored us the most." 

That'll go over well.

Yeah. Just like with the discovery of the dinosaurs, you know that little discovery that a whole other dominant species existed on this very planet hundreds of millions of years ago? That one really had people running from their churches and burning their bibles. Just like the other countless scientific facts and contradictions that people practicing faith have to ignore every day? (I come from a Christian family and respect people who hold onto strong faith, but that's just a fact.)

There's already people in this thread explaining how "the bible never explicitly states that their isn't alien life". Discovery of alien life would not change a thing. If anything, it would scare the hell out of everyone, especially if they come to us. We would flock to our synagogues/ temple's/mosques to ask our Buddha/Muhammad/Jesus/Sun God what we should do while the aliens power up their planet death ray.



Are you attempting to argue that faith hasn't changed dramatically over time?  It most certainly has.  It's too huge of a business to not adapt to the times.  If various faith based organizations tried to serve up the same message they did now as they did in the Crusades, they would lose customers.

We're arguing basically the same thing. Your choice of words made me think you might be just real dumb for a sec.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: jtksu on August 10, 2010, 05:37:02 PM
If we're going on a 50,000 year roadtrip, I call shotgun and I'm packing a cooler.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: TBL on August 10, 2010, 09:47:51 PM
I never saw anywhere in the Bible that said God didn't create life on other planets.

exactly.
Interesting theory.

Surely, if Aliens did exist, and were created by the same God that created us, those Aliens would have a similar monotheistic belief structure as Christians/Jews/Muslims do on Earth?

If not, that would land a pretty severe blow to "faith" as we know it.

IMO.



Naw, wouldn't change a thing.
Yeah.  It's funny how belief structures and faith change over time even though history never does.  Faith will just adjust to explain that little oversight...i.e., "God created the Aliens, he just didn't tell them about it, because he favored us the most." 

That'll go over well.

Yeah. Just like with the discovery of the dinosaurs, you know that little discovery that a whole other dominant species existed on this very planet hundreds of millions of years ago? That one really had people running from their churches and burning their bibles. Just like the other countless scientific facts and contradictions that people practicing faith have to ignore every day? (I come from a Christian family and respect people who hold onto strong faith, but that's just a fact.)

There's already people in this thread explaining how "the bible never explicitly states that their isn't alien life". Discovery of alien life would not change a thing. If anything, it would scare the hell out of everyone, especially if they come to us. We would flock to our synagogues/ temple's/mosques to ask our Buddha/Muhammad/Jesus/Sun God what we should do while the aliens power up their planet death ray.



Are you attempting to argue that faith hasn't changed dramatically over time?  It most certainly has.  It's too huge of a business to not adapt to the times.  If various faith based organizations tried to serve up the same message they did now as they did in the Crusades, they would lose customers.

The jew has a point...

U gonna going to let the inquisition dood get away with that, SBG?
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: jtksu on August 11, 2010, 12:20:44 AM
Hey TBL, feel free to edit your post when you sober up. 
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: EllToPay on August 11, 2010, 07:57:24 AM
Existence of aliens pretty much make the bible a big pile of BS.

Not a huge deal but it does.

:runaway:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on August 11, 2010, 08:10:01 AM
Existence of aliens pretty much make the bible a big pile of BS.

Not a huge deal but it does.
Not really, The bibe only addresses earth, it does not say one way or another that earth is the only planet with living beings on it.  When/if other life forms are discovered maybe we just add and new New Testament.  Maybe the aliens have a bible too and we can combine them assuming they are from the same God (of course they are, there is only one).
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: EllToPay on August 11, 2010, 08:14:13 AM
Existence of aliens pretty much make the bible a big pile of BS.

Not a huge deal but it does.
Not really, The bibe only addresses earth, it does not say one way or another that earth is the only planet with living beings on it.  When/if other life forms are discovered maybe we just add and new New Testament.  Maybe the aliens have a bible too and we can combine them assuming they are from the same God (of course they are, there is only one).

MODS!
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: TBL on August 11, 2010, 08:33:36 AM
Hey TBL, feel free to edit your post when you sober up. 

1. Was not drinking
2. MJ called Saul a jew. While not inaccurate, still uncalled for.
3. MJ touts being Spanish, not a Mexican. Still not confirmed.
4. During the Spanish Insquisition, Jews were converted to the Roman Catholic faith or killed.

 :gocho:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: ben ji on August 11, 2010, 09:09:18 AM
Hey TBL, feel free to edit your post when you sober up. 

1. Was not drinking
2. MJ called Saul a jew. While not inaccurate, still uncalled for.
3. MJ touts being Spanish, not a Mexican. Still not confirmed.
4. During the Spanish Insquisition, Jews were converted to the Roman Catholic faith or killed.

 :gocho:

Boom roasted
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: asava on August 11, 2010, 10:03:39 AM
Gawd dammit, the Bible gave us Jesus and there is only one Jesus, he died for US not some other damn alien God project.   :chainsaw:   Look, I'm Christian, I am special and God has a plan for me, and you if you just give your life over to him and accept his Son as your savior.   He is not off double-timing his chosen people for Christ's sake.   Next you'll be telling me there are other Satans or that our Satan is also fracking up all these supposed other alien God beings?!?   :curse:   Read your damn Bible people, does it say anything like "on the first day God created Earth, on the second he created AlienEarth, on the third he created AlienEarthII", hell no it doesn't.   Earth took a day, so by God so would each of these other people planets, so, ....wait a sec, he could have gone back to work on the 8th day and ........hang on, I better go talk with my Minister about this.    :runaway:

ok, this is the funniest post i've ever read.

and to give this party a soundtrack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc

the thing about aliens is the absolute largeness of possibility. considering time and space, our existence on earth is a relative blip in the cosmos. moreover time more than likely will not move in another species like it does to us. our being here in the first place is an enormous improbability. for another species to exist, coinciding with time, provides very small chance that that species is intelligent, or a very high probability that they are hyper-intelligent.

that being said, what do things in this universe do except exist? my vote is that there is alien life out there. it may be much much older than we are, or it may be microscopic. but when the universe is

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmotivate.maths.org%2Fconferences%2Fconf64%2FImages%2FHubble_large.jpg&hash=15f9e2275fcd9bbcbc790f446528e835d8d938fa)

much bigger than this, it is hard to find reason to believe there aren't multiple species coexisting in time separated by space, against all odds.

Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: jtksu on August 11, 2010, 01:53:20 PM
To be perfectly honest, I really have no idea WTF I was even referring to.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: DILLIGAF on August 11, 2010, 03:05:18 PM
Gawd dammit, the Bible gave us Jesus and there is only one Jesus, he died for US not some other damn alien God project.   :chainsaw:   Look, I'm Christian, I am special and God has a plan for me, and you if you just give your life over to him and accept his Son as your savior.   He is not off double-timing his chosen people for Christ's sake.   Next you'll be telling me there are other Satans or that our Satan is also fracking up all these supposed other alien God beings?!?   :curse:   Read your damn Bible people, does it say anything like "on the first day God created Earth, on the second he created AlienEarth, on the third he created AlienEarthII", hell no it doesn't.   Earth took a day, so by God so would each of these other people planets, so, ....wait a sec, he could have gone back to work on the 8th day and ........hang on, I better go talk with my Minister about this.    :runaway:

ok, this is the funniest post i've ever read.

and to give this party a soundtrack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc

the thing about aliens is the absolute largeness of possibility. considering time and space, our existence on earth is a relative blip in the cosmos. moreover time more than likely will not move in another species like it does to us. our being here in the first place is an enormous improbability. for another species to exist, coinciding with time, provides very small chance that that species is intelligent, or a very high probability that they are hyper-intelligent.

that being said, what do things in this universe do except exist? my vote is that there is alien life out there. it may be much much older than we are, or it may be microscopic. but when the universe is

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmotivate.maths.org%2Fconferences%2Fconf64%2FImages%2FHubble_large.jpg&hash=15f9e2275fcd9bbcbc790f446528e835d8d938fa)

much bigger than this, it is hard to find reason to believe there aren't multiple species coexisting in time separated by space, against all odds.



Fact:  That photo is the capture of other galaxies in our universe the equivalent of holding a pinhead at arms length, those would be the ones covered up by the pinhead.   Now consider how many galaxies are out there, covering each area 360 degrees in all directions with a pinhead.    :surprised:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: CHONGS on August 11, 2010, 03:08:03 PM
They are all too far away.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: DILLIGAF on August 11, 2010, 03:15:24 PM
They are all too far away.

Obviously you've never seen Dune, just fold a little space and you're there.   
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: CHONGS on August 11, 2010, 03:18:20 PM
They are all too far away.

Obviously you've never seen Dune, just fold a little space and you're there.   
Dune is make believe.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: jtksu on August 11, 2010, 03:23:20 PM
An awful lot of technology we use on a daily basis was make believe 20 or 30 years ago.  Can you imagine the uproar if you showed some old timey Civil War some of the munitions we use today?  Or a freaking iphone.  Or a goddamn microwave.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: EllToPay on August 11, 2010, 03:26:56 PM
That thread's already been done, jtksu.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: asava on August 11, 2010, 03:28:40 PM
OR A GOD DAMN MICROWAVE
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: jtksu on August 11, 2010, 05:01:32 PM
Yeah, that old timey thread was pretty BA.  Anyway- my point is that something that seems far-fetched today might not seem so impossible in the not-too-distant future.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: ben ji on August 11, 2010, 05:14:27 PM
Yeah, that old timey thread was pretty BA.  Anyway- my point is that something that seems far-fetched today might not seem so impossible in the not-too-distant future.

like us being relevant in football again?
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: jtksu on August 11, 2010, 05:20:31 PM
Seems like playing for the division in the final week of the regular season makes you relevant.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: CHONGS on August 11, 2010, 05:34:43 PM
It's reaaaly far away.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Benja on August 11, 2010, 08:55:40 PM
I never saw anywhere in the Bible that said God didn't create life on other planets.

exactly.
Interesting theory.

Surely, if Aliens did exist, and were created by the same God that created us, those Aliens would have a similar monotheistic belief structure as Christians/Jews/Muslims do on Earth?

If not, that would land a pretty severe blow to "faith" as we know it.

IMO.



Naw, wouldn't change a thing.
Yeah.  It's funny how belief structures and faith change over time even though history never does.  Faith will just adjust to explain that little oversight...i.e., "God created the Aliens, he just didn't tell them about it, because he favored us the most." 

That'll go over well.

Yeah. Just like with the discovery of the dinosaurs, you know that little discovery that a whole other dominant species existed on this very planet hundreds of millions of years ago? That one really had people running from their churches and burning their bibles. Just like the other countless scientific facts and contradictions that people practicing faith have to ignore every day? (I come from a Christian family and respect people who hold onto strong faith, but that's just a fact.)

There's already people in this thread explaining how "the bible never explicitly states that their isn't alien life". Discovery of alien life would not change a thing. If anything, it would scare the hell out of everyone, especially if they come to us. We would flock to our synagogues/ temple's/mosques to ask our Buddha/Muhammad/Jesus/Sun God what we should do while the aliens power up their planet death ray.




God-

Please do not confuse me with the hateful sinner Benja. ben ji is a completely different person who knows that you are all knowing and all powerful.

That is all


Good luck with that buddy. How's that all workin out for you? You feeling pretty good about winning the heaven lottery? I plan on arguing my case.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Benja on August 11, 2010, 09:58:07 PM
They are all too far away.

Yeah.

With our current technology any serious space travel just isn't possible. We need a new propulsion system, probably one powered by fusion. Unfortunately as of yet fusion generators create so much heat they melt every substance known to mankind that we could build them with.

And even if we figure out a new energy source for our spaceships, there's the problem of the theory of relativity. If Einstein was right, not only could we not travel faster than the speed of light which would still make for some seriously long space trips, but the warping of time that would occur at those speeds creates a lot of scary scenarios. Think about going on a little 2 year space cruise, only to come back and find out 100 years have passed, your whole family is dead and nobody remembers you.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: bakerman on August 12, 2010, 09:36:29 AM
They are all too far away.

Yeah.

With our current technology any serious space travel just isn't possible. We need a new propulsion system, probably one powered by fusion. Unfortunately as of yet fusion generators create so much heat they melt every substance known to mankind that we could build them with.

And even if we figure out a new energy source for our spaceships, there's the problem of the theory of relativity. If Einstein was right, not only could we not travel faster than the speed of light which would still make for some seriously long space trips, but the warping of time that would occur at those speeds creates a lot of scary scenarios. Think about going on a little 2 year space cruise, only to come back and find out 100 years have passed, your whole family is dead and nobody remembers you.


PLANET OF THE APES!!!!!   


 :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: TheShocker on August 12, 2010, 10:20:56 AM
Think about going on a little 2 year space cruise, only to come back and find out 100 years have passed, your whole family is dead and nobody remembers you.


That actually sounds pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 12, 2010, 02:10:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjP1Aw6NBw


 :surprised:   :grin:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Pittcat on October 12, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
crap just got REAL!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFB37WLaEvU&feature=related
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: The Big Train on July 28, 2015, 07:13:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dbz0UEND1Y
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: The Big Train on August 06, 2015, 01:32:36 PM
HOLY rough ridin' crap YOU GUYS WE FOUND THEM!!!!

 :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha:
 :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot:
 :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:

http://io9.com/nasa-totally-found-an-alien-crab-on-mars-and-didnt-tell-1722449768
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 06, 2015, 02:48:52 PM
HOLY rough ridin' crap YOU GUYS WE FOUND THEM!!!!

 :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha: :Wha:
 :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot:
 :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:

http://io9.com/nasa-totally-found-an-alien-crab-on-mars-and-didnt-tell-1722449768

It looks like a facehugger. The longer arm is the tail.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: CNS on October 25, 2016, 04:21:29 PM
http://www.iflscience.com/space/scientists-claim-to-have-found-234-alien-civilizations/ (http://www.iflscience.com/space/scientists-claim-to-have-found-234-alien-civilizations/)

Quote
Ermanno Borra and his graduate student Eric Trottier have analyzed over 2.5 million stars and galaxies for pulses of light emitted at regular intervals and discovered it in 234 stars similar in size to our Sun. The team believes that alien civilizations are behind those signals.

Quote
“We find that the detected signals have exactly the shape of an ETI signal predicted in the previous publication and are therefore in agreement with this hypothesis,” the researchers wrote in the paper.

“The fact that they are only found in a very small fraction of stars within a narrow spectral range centered near the spectral type of the Sun is also in agreement with the ETI hypothesis.”

Quote
The researchers admit that although they believe aliens is the most likely explanation, this is yet to be confirmed.

The Stephen Hawking-backed project Breakthrough Listen will conduct follow-up observations of these 234 stars, but the team at UC Berkeley, where the project's science program is based, invite people to be skeptical.

  :rolleyes:  but kinda  :runaway: and  :lol:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: catastrophe on October 25, 2016, 04:48:53 PM
The most telling part for me:

Quote
These superfast pulses will have to be generated by incredibly powerful lasers, like the one at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. Interestingly, in previous publications Borra has stated that this area of astronomy is the least explored, which raises the question on why these aliens would all decide to communicate in such a complicated and energy-consuming way.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 26, 2016, 10:45:45 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsar)
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2016, 11:03:05 AM
Nope, it's hundreds of super intelligent alien societies.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: steve dave on October 26, 2016, 01:18:01 PM
I read this somewhere, don't remember where. how terrifying would it be if we received and decoded an alien signal for the very first time and it said "be quiet or they will find you" over and over.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 01:21:57 PM
What if it said "what did the five fingers say to the face?" :sdeek:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: bucket on December 16, 2017, 11:57:47 AM
https://twitter.com/jswatz/status/942081144643874818
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: The Big Train on December 19, 2017, 07:34:24 AM
:runaway:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Pete on December 19, 2017, 07:43:35 AM
The presence of intelligent life from outside of earth would do all sorts of fun things to those with literal interpretations of ancient religious creation stories.  That's the single biggest benefit to mankind of finding clear evidence of E.T.'s.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 10, 2019, 12:30:34 PM
:Chirp:

https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/1083071819865882625

Obviously the technological innovation to create such a burst even once would be astonishing.  It’s been traveling for billions of years tho, so who knows.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2019, 12:44:00 PM
it’s from a star with an incredibly large gravitational field, mystery solved
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 10, 2019, 03:34:32 PM
it’s from a star with an incredibly large gravitational field, mystery solved

And that created this how......?
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 27, 2019, 01:16:02 PM
(https://www.madaboutmemes.com/uploads/memes/61.png)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 28, 2019, 10:53:54 AM
We will be extinct long before we ever meet these aliens, so curb your enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: stunted on July 09, 2019, 11:22:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEWz4SXfyCQ

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: Spracne on July 09, 2019, 11:24:16 PM
Just watched all 2.25 hours. Crazy! But don't take my word for it. Watch it for yourself!
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: slackcat on July 10, 2019, 12:51:09 PM
cool
Title: Re: Aliens
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 11, 2019, 07:29:42 PM
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1149406214067036160