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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: EMAWzifried on January 24, 2024, 07:58:30 PM
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We owe them for the sno bowl.
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This games on too late please I have a family
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Bring the pain, MIR!
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King with the leather bomber like a boss
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Two possessions, 2 turnovers, two fouls on Cam. We're mumped. Three possessions three turnovers. This is going to be over early.
T
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Force tempo, chuck up a bunch of threes, and get to the line. Will give us a shot. Prob need to see some RJ today and give him the green light.
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Be nice if Perry makes an appearance.
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Well, it might not be our night.
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Cam Carter will play 7 minutes this game and finish with 4 fouls and I'll have PTSD flashbacks to oscar
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What the eff is a hook and hold also that call was soft, it shouldn't have even been a foul
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They said it happens all the time but I have not paid much attention
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That flagrant is wild. The last two trips down the court, as far as what was called and what wasn’t was wild.
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We're getting reamed
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Perry is tough to root for
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:frown:
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if i’m going to be honest, I pronounce his last name like the late night television talk host, “kowl-behr”
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whoa, didn’t know pastner was working for espn
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Well at least I can go to bed at halftime
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When was the last time a ref wouldn’t even look at the clock?
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Not that it matters at all, but how can you not add time there at the end? It was so obvious that there should be 2.5 seconds left. What was the reasoning?
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Well at least I can go to bed at halftime
Indeed
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I don't understand the Allen Fieldhouse treatment. Feels like you should have to have won at least one natty before you get it like that.
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These Cats don't quit (unlike our bad fans)
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When these refs huddle, K-State gets screwed
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I'd like us to win this one, guys.
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We just keep creeping and creeping closer. Let's steal this
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Rusty staying up till midnight for a mid week hoops game is a whole vibe
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They make so many weird floaters which might not annoy me much with other teams but I hate it when the cyclones do it
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We are dribbling the ball off of our bodies a lot tonight.
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Can we not make turnovers?
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Cam, Cam, The Basketball Man.
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Does TJ make his coaches wear Allbirds
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I think we have one more big push in us. We just need to break through and take the lead once and I think we'll win.
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Interesting officating, to say the least.
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Stat nerds say that the home court advantage in basketball is significant enough that the home team should win 67% of the time.
Our ag pals up north have an all-time win % in Hilton of 74%, which includes a 29-23 mark against K-State in that building (56%).
Seems more like "Hilton slightly better than average advantage Coliseum" vs. something magical.
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Foul disparity is something
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Gettin spicy
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TP with the most powerful forearm on earth.
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LMAO at the Iowa State belt buckle
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Wow.
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12 to 5 foul difference second half.
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When is the last time we had a rim protector like Colbert
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#10 biggest flopper in history? Probably
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I'm surprised they didn't review that elbow
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Perry is so weak.
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Anyone got the radio on? What's the fan issue behind our bench?
Tom
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I'm surprised they didn't review that elbow
It was wide open. Can’t believe we didn’t ask for it to be reviewed
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Anyone got the radio on? What's the fan issue behind our bench?
Tom
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https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1750368798560100621
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Sigh
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I'm at the point where I even hate the foul calls on our end
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Can't miss 3 free throws in a row in this kind of game.
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Unbelievable
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I legit think we are the better team
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Can't miss 3 free throws in a row in this kind of game.
Too many FTs and open 3s left on the table. Good defense after the first 10 minutes.
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the absolute worst officiating i’ve ever seen
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I like to think MIR is fighting 'clones 3 at a time in the concourse right now
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thought they looked clearly less talented in the first, but i was impressed that they came back to make it competitive in the second. they hit some big shots.
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I want to blow these chumps out by 30 in Doom.
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Iowa State is the worst. Their fans are huge dork goobers. Their coach is a pock-faced Manlet. Their players are egregious floppers.
I don’t respect them as people or a state.
Those stupid overalls are super dumb as well.
Woof.
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Anyone got the radio on? What's the fan issue behind our bench?
Tom
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https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1750368798560100621
Ridiculous he got a technical after a clearly blown call but the refs apparently did nothing about this.
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Also kind of adorably naïve that he thought ISU’s coach would try to fix it. Tang is like the only coach I’ve heard of who demanded (and got) classier fans.
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What is the Zumba type dance crap they do? Billy Blanks VHS tapes finally make it up there?
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What is the Zumba type dance crap they do? Billy Blanks VHS tapes finally make it up there?
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Absolute dorks. Place wasn’t even loud except for the end either. Grown men behind the LSU bench making asses of themselves.
I wish they would get kicked out of the big 12 . They’ve always been afterthoughts in all sports until everyone else left. They’re the most proud mediocre fanbase I’ve ever seen.
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KU is going to go there this weekend and get every call, and those losers will be looking for conference brothers for solace. After what I just witnessed, eff em.
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I don't think I can watch us play Iowa State anymore if they're going to do crowd shots. Sloth from The Goonies is what I call an "Ames 10".
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Bring the pain, MIR!
Now 1-8 watching mens games in that building :barf:
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This goober. Both of them.
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Not that it matters at all, but how can you not add time there at the end? It was so obvious that there should be 2.5 seconds left. What was the reasoning?
Time would only be added in that case if the ball was still in the offense's hand at the time of the violation. Since the clock expired while the ball was in the air, the possession ends when the shot is complete. In this case it's when the ball hits the floor since no one touched the ball before then. Essentially you can't have a shot clock violation if the ball is in fight.
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Not that it matters at all, but how can you not add time there at the end? It was so obvious that there should be 2.5 seconds left. What was the reasoning?
Time would only be added in that case if the ball was still in the offense's hand at the time of the violation. Since the clock expired while the ball was in the air, the possession ends when the shot is complete. In this case it's when the ball hits the floor since no one touched the ball before then. Essentially you can't have a shot clock violation if the ball is in fight.
It hit at 1.5 sec.
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#10 biggest flopper in history? Probably
Rusty, it was driving me crazy, y'all didn't even see half the time he was doing it. I can't tell you how many times he was doing it off the ball too, and on both sides of the court. I haven't watched a player throw his head back so much. I seriously hope he gets a sprained neck doing that crap. My mold buddy says he does it a lot, every game. The flopping is no longer a point of emphasis, but it's still in the rule book. That guy, Gilbert, is an embarrassment, but he was also their best player tonight.
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I like to think MIR is fighting 'clones 3 at a time in the concourse right now
I yelled "stop throwing your head back" and some blue hair turned around and looked at me. I said see even she knows he's a flopper. Only thing even close to a negative reaction. There were a ton of K-State fans there.
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Anyone got the radio on? What's the fan issue behind our bench?
Tom
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https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1750368798560100621
Was this shown on TV? Tang went over to Otz and was clearly pointing at his bench area but Otz didn't listen to him and went ballistic about Tang going over to his coaching box. He didn't listen to anything Tang had to say, he just tried to get a T on Tang. When the game was over he and Tang talked for a very long time and Tang was dissatisfied with whatever the result of that conversation was.
I never really cared about coach smedium aka pinhead from Hellraiser before, but now I legit hate him.
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Also kind of adorably naïve that he thought ISU’s coach would try to fix it. Tang is like the only coach I’ve heard of who demanded (and got) classier fans.
Had the same thought. Didn’t Tang actually get on the mic at some point to chastise some fan or something? Seems like I have a memory of that.
That Coach Richard Spencer’s reaction was crying about Tang being in his coaching box made me feel bad for Tang. :(
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Tang sonned the hell out of him after the game too. Good for Coach Tang.
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Perry is the only guy our team that flops. I can’t stand floppers.
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The no call elbow to finister's face was very lol, especially when followed up by the phantom foul call on N'Guessan when their player tripped then the T on Tang.
Its only roundball though. We are a powerhouse football program again which is all that matters. I'm just hoping our hoops distracts me into mid march.
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Perry is the only guy our team that flops. I can’t stand floppers.
Yep
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I hope I regret posting this, but I think Tylor Perry might be one of my most disliked K-State athletes of all time. He's not even a jerk or anything, he just has the most unfulfilled promise from any athlete since Bryce Brown. I do feel really bad for not liking him but he straight stinks. It's amazing this team is where it is given how bad he's been.
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I hope I regret posting this, but I think Tylor Perry might be one of my most disliked K-State athletes of all time. He's not even a jerk or anything, he just has the most unfulfilled promise from any athlete since Bryce Brown. I do feel really bad for not liking him but he straight stinks. It's amazing this team is where it is given how bad he's been.
Mrs nicname and I agree, but on-court personality is def part of it. At least for me.
He’s like the anti-ksu guard.
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You’re not alone, MIR.
That was the least watchable game I can remember in a very, very long time. We crept back only to never once take tge pead, the fouls goikg both ways were absolutely ridiculous. The sequence of the elbow to the face no call in light of all the other fouls, then the phantom tripping foul followed by the Tang technical was absolutely laughable.
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I am still holding out hope Tylor is going to have an extended, months long 3 point hot streak.
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This goober. Both of them.
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Yep, I saw that guy and thought “well that about sums it up”.
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With TP, I have come around to think about him like this:
He is being asked to play a position he shouldn’t, but because we don’t have anyone else to do that right now, he has to. That sucks. It suck’s for him and us, but he’s doing what appears to be his best and I respect that.
Also, he may be a flipper but that guy gets after it. Last night, near the end of the game, he rammed a crybaby bitch out of his way and dove head first into our bench trying to save a ball.
I don’t know if this take is a good take, but I know I feel a lot less frustrated when watching him when I frame it this way in my head.
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This goober. Both of them.
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Yep, I saw that guy and thought “well that about sums it up”.
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this guy is an iowa state fan's idol on twitter now, not surprisingly they aren't embarassed by this.
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This goober. Both of them.
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Yep, I saw that guy and thought “well that about sums it up”.
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this guy is an iowa state fan's idol on twitter now, not surprisingly they aren't embarassed by this.
I burn with rage toward these monsters. I'm in disbelief that any human would be capable of disrespecting our coach in this manner.
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This goober. Both of them.
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Yep, I saw that guy and thought “well that about sums it up”.
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this guy is an iowa state fan's idol on twitter now, not surprisingly they aren't embarassed by this.
I burn with rage toward these monsters. I'm in disbelief that any human would be capable of disrespecting our coach in this manner.
This looks like an SNL skit starting to tank...
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I get the frustration with Perry, but at least the effort is there.
McNair has to be one of the worst rebounding big men who play significant minutes that we've had this century. Bad technique, marginal effort, etc. At least 3-4 of ISU's o-rebounds last night were because he can't/won't box out - he just stands there waiting for the ball to come to him.
I can't imagine how badly we'd get outrebounded if Carter/Kaluma weren't great on the glass.
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I'm hoping Colbert plays 20+ a game moving forward and McNair plays around 15 or less.
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I get the frustration with Perry, but at least the effort is there.
McNair has to be one of the worst rebounding big men who play significant minutes that we've had this century. Bad technique, marginal effort, etc. At least 3-4 of ISU's o-rebounds last night were because he can't/won't box out - he just stands there waiting for the ball to come to him.
I can't imagine how badly we'd get outrebounded if Carter/Kaluma weren't great on the glass.
Do you think it is an effort issue or a conditioning issue? Or is a conditioning issue an effort issue? He seemed to rebound and defend well against Baylor's bigs last week. He shouldn't do more than one dribble per touch, max. His turnovers rise exponentially with the number of dribbles.
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This goober. Both of them.
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Yep, I saw that guy and thought “well that about sums it up”.
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this guy is an iowa state fan's idol on twitter now, not surprisingly they aren't embarassed by this.
jim carrey
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I get the frustration with Perry, but at least the effort is there.
McNair has to be one of the worst rebounding big men who play significant minutes that we've had this century. Bad technique, marginal effort, etc. At least 3-4 of ISU's o-rebounds last night were because he can't/won't box out - he just stands there waiting for the ball to come to him.
I can't imagine how badly we'd get outrebounded if Carter/Kaluma weren't great on the glass.
Do you think it is an effort issue or a conditioning issue? Or is a conditioning issue an effort issue? He seemed to rebound and defend well against Baylor's bigs last week. He shouldn't do more than one dribble per touch, max. His turnovers rise exponentially with the number of dribbles.
My brother's observation was that McNair should study and copy Ayoka Lee. Turn and muscle to the basket. Don't put the ball on the floor.
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I get the frustration with Perry, but at least the effort is there.
McNair has to be one of the worst rebounding big men who play significant minutes that we've had this century. Bad technique, marginal effort, etc. At least 3-4 of ISU's o-rebounds last night were because he can't/won't box out - he just stands there waiting for the ball to come to him.
I can't imagine how badly we'd get outrebounded if Carter/Kaluma weren't great on the glass.
of all of the things, mcnair isn’t one of them
anything he provides is just upside
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Coach McSweaty at Iowa State has his guys well-groomed in the art of flopping, except he may want to watch Gilbert for whiplash - Gilbert tends to go the Hunter Dickinson route of extreme flopping. Too bad coach McSweaty (seriously, when's the last time you've seen a POLYESTER shirt on a pale man with a whitewall haircut?) didn't pay attention to Tang when Tang wanted the fan nonsense behind his bench to stop. I think K-State fans should give coach McSweaty and his team the royal treatment when they come to the Octagon.
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I get the frustration with Perry, but at least the effort is there.
McNair has to be one of the worst rebounding big men who play significant minutes that we've had this century. Bad technique, marginal effort, etc. At least 3-4 of ISU's o-rebounds last night were because he can't/won't box out - he just stands there waiting for the ball to come to him.
I can't imagine how badly we'd get outrebounded if Carter/Kaluma weren't great on the glass.
Do you think it is an effort issue or a conditioning issue? Or is a conditioning issue an effort issue? He seemed to rebound and defend well against Baylor's bigs last week. He shouldn't do more than one dribble per touch, max. His turnovers rise exponentially with the number of dribbles.
The old school coaches all said it's 100 percent effort. I personally think there's skill involved in terms of anticipating where the ball goes, etc., but that effort does play a huge role.
We are currently 292nd in the country in defensive rebounding percentage and while it's not fair to McNair that he was probably set for a 10-15 minute off the bench role before circumstances changed this year, the reality is that we have a big who is playing nearly 25 minutes per game who is not a good rebounder and that's a huge part of why we're so bad on that front.
Last night, McNair had 1 rebound in 25 minutes - it goes without saying, but that's really, really bad.
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I am not one to complain about refs and do not think they are why we lost the game but holy crap this foul call and technical foul call
https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1750591339916640342
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I am not one to complain about refs and do not think they are why we lost the game but holy crap this foul call and technical foul call
https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1750591339916640342
Also lol that this reaction was what made the fans do the crybaby face
https://twitter.com/OurISUClones/status/1750374399067246970?t=WEBX4k0R-mjZqoq1HbqQDA&s=19
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SOFT
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I am not one to complain about refs and do not think they are why we lost the game but holy crap this foul call and technical foul call
https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1750591339916640342
Have you seen the video of the lead ref walking up the court staring off into the crowd when the ISU player is elbowing finister in the face?
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I am not one to complain about refs and do not think they are why we lost the game but holy crap this foul call and technical foul call
https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1750591339916640342
The best part is that Gerry Pollard - he of an ungodly amount of awful calls - made the foul call, but rightfully didn't call the T on Tang. It was actually the effing ref all the way under the basketball that gave him the T. Even Pollard wasn't gonna go there.
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I am not one to complain about refs and do not think they are why we lost the game but holy crap this foul call and technical foul call
https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1750591339916640342
Have you seen the video of the lead ref walking up the court staring off into the crowd when the ISU player is elbowing finister in the face?
What's wild about this is that it was wide open, mid court. how did no one see this. Not just refs, but our coaches didn't call a time out and ask for the reveiw, like they have before. Just wild.
Also, ISU's coach seems like a piece of crap.
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I bet he smells terrible
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Like old potatoes or something
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Walking tacos and day old beer
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Coach McSweaty at Iowa State has his guys well-groomed in the art of flopping, except he may want to watch Gilbert for whiplash - Gilbert tends to go the Hunter Dickinson route of extreme flopping. Too bad coach McSweaty (seriously, when's the last time you've seen a POLYESTER shirt on a pale man with a whitewall haircut?) didn't pay attention to Tang when Tang wanted the fan nonsense behind his bench to stop. I think K-State fans should give coach McSweaty and his team the royal treatment when they come to the Octagon.
sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. the OOD will melt the polyester shirt off of TJ's back.
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Being reported that K-State caught ISU event/coliseum staff taking video/listening in on KSU huddles during the game and texting that info to ISU coaching staff.
Farmageddon - it just means more.
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Being reported that K-State caught ISU event/coliseum staff taking video/listening in on KSU huddles during the game and texting that info to ISU coaching staff.
Farmageddon - it just means more.
Is that what Tang got pissed about with the stands?
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That would explain why one of our assistant coaches was yelling something about cheating.
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Please tell me they hired Connor Stallions
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Being reported that K-State caught ISU event/coliseum staff taking video/listening in on KSU huddles during the game and texting that info to ISU coaching staff.
Farmageddon - it just means more.
Where is it being reported?
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Not that it matters at all, but how can you not add time there at the end? It was so obvious that there should be 2.5 seconds left. What was the reasoning?
Time would only be added in that case if the ball was still in the offense's hand at the time of the violation. Since the clock expired while the ball was in the air, the possession ends when the shot is complete. In this case it's when the ball hits the floor since no one touched the ball before then. Essentially you can't have a shot clock violation if the ball is in fight.
Makes sense, TY.
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I am not one to complain about refs and do not think they are why we lost the game but holy crap this foul call and technical foul call
https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1750591339916640342
Also lol that this reaction was what made the fans do the crybaby face
https://twitter.com/OurISUClones/status/1750374399067246970?t=WEBX4k0R-mjZqoq1HbqQDA&s=19
I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many baby teeth in adult mouths. Such a strange fanbase
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Tang has earned my trust.
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https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article284703836.html
Iowa State was filming our huddles.
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Allegedly
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Just makes it even more like, eff em
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You were talking about filming the opposing teams huddle from the stands with your buddies the other day...
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I abhor their coach. I thought he looked like a douche the moment I laid eyes on him and his little shirt. His behavior during the game against our cats and since has only supported my initial feelings about him.
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Iowa State response (to alleged accusations never made public) is really heating up:
https://x.com/CBSSportsCBB/status/1751307389293281415
https://x.com/IASTATEAD/status/1751330206500126910
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Tang addressing the issue in KSU/ISU postgame press conference:
https://x.com/zaccarlson/status/1750388635709636718
TJO addressing it (by reading a prepared statement) in the KU/ISU postgame press conference:
https://x.com/Cyclones_B12/status/1751377885976252866
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I am not one to complain about refs and do not think they are why we lost the game but holy crap this foul call and technical foul call
https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1750591339916640342
Have you seen the video of the lead ref walking up the court staring off into the crowd when the ISU player is elbowing finister in the face?
What's wild about this is that it was wide open, mid court. how did no one see this. Not just refs, but our coaches didn't call a time out and ask for the reveiw, like they have before. Just wild.
Also, ISU's coach seems like a piece of crap.
During the next dead ball Tang was begging for a replay. He went to each referee making the replay hand signal, they passed.
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Iowa State response (to alleged accusations never made public) is really heating up:
https://x.com/CBSSportsCBB/status/1751307389293281415
https://x.com/IASTATEAD/status/1751330206500126910
Kinda weird for an AD to be that emphatic when either: (1) ISU’s coach was not willing to go out on that limb, or (2) he isn’t letting the coach talk about it at all.
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I think the Iowa state UP needs to make a statement
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Tang still has never said anything about it publicly, right? I hope Tang continues to not address it at all. If he didn't publicly accuse them, he owes them nothing.
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Tang still has never said anything about it publicly, right? I hope Tang continues to not address it at all. If he didn't publicly accuse them, he owes them nothing.
I believe this is true. In the Athletic article Tang is quoted as "“I stand by what I said in the presser wed night” (posted above). So Tang (nor KSU) has made any public allegations to date. It appears ISU is getting wound up based on rumors and media articles based on rumors. . . maybe they're trying to get ahead of something?
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Someone convinced me that Jamie Pollard isn't Kellis' source. Neither coach expressed a need to talk about it. Then there was an anonymous report to the K-State beat writer, then less than 24 hours after that he goes public to not his beat writer but to a national writer who just happened to be a panelist on a national broadcast, right before their game on that network. Then he tweets the clip out and has his head coach open his post game press conference against the #7 team in the country with a prepared statement. No one would be talking about this if he didn't feel the need to talk about it today.