I’m seeing this on my screen that is connected to the internet so yes it’s trueBut based on what I'm reading, I think it is true. We don't have to have an ISU win. Please understand I am widely considered an imbecile by most who know me.
I think osu and/or ou still need to win out for scenario two to hit
This has all the makings of the (either 03-04 or 04-05 can't remember which year) Kansas City chiefs making the playoffs
This has all the makings of the (either 03-04 or 04-05 can't remember which year) Kansas City chiefs making the playoffs
2006-07
This is incredibly exciting. Having a shot at conference championships is what this sport is all about.I'm so freaking pumped we have a VERY good shot to play for a dr.pepper!!! Has really made my weekend. These guys are going to stomp ku and ISU. They very much seem like a team with something to prove.
I think osu and/or ou still need to win out for scenario two to hit
If either of them lose they are out at 3 losses. If one wins out they would be in a three way tie with us and UT, both four way tie. We would have a better record against common opponents than anyone in a 3 or 4 way tie. The only scenario in which we win out and don't get to Arlington is UT wins out, OU loses another, and OSU wins out.
I think osu and/or ou still need to win out for scenario two to hit
If either of them lose they are out at 3 losses. If one wins out they would be in a three way tie with us and UT, both four way tie. We would have a better record against common opponents than anyone in a 3 or 4 way tie. The only scenario in which we win out and don't get to Arlington is UT wins out, OU loses another, and OSU wins out.
If OU or OSU loses and we're in a 2 way tie with the other, we lose the tie. Need it to be a 3 way with OU/OSU (plus KU win vs Cincy), or 4 way with UT/OU/OSU, or both OU and OSU to go 6-3.
Pretty decent odds we get in this rough rider!I think osu and/or ou still need to win out for scenario two to hit
If either of them lose they are out at 3 losses. If one wins out they would be in a three way tie with us and UT, both four way tie. We would have a better record against common opponents than anyone in a 3 or 4 way tie. The only scenario in which we win out and don't get to Arlington is UT wins out, OU loses another, and OSU wins out.
If OU or OSU loses and we're in a 2 way tie with the other, we lose the tie. Need it to be a 3 way with OU/OSU (plus KU win vs Cincy), or 4 way with UT/OU/OSU, or both OU and OSU to go 6-3.
I'm pretty sure Texas will lose to Iowa State cause why not, and will make that mute
Iowa state only wins when it helps no one, or ruins the season for the entire big 12
I mean beating Texas effectively knocks Texas out of the cfp for the big 12 (I'm reaching here)
Are you sure we would win that 3-way tie? OSU beat us both. I know it's convoluted but that seems wild.
Are you sure we would win that 3-way tie? OSU beat us both. I know it's convoluted but that seems wild.
That's the way I understand it. Because it is 3 teams, they throw out the head-to-head victories and just take the record against the next-highest ranked opponents (KU and ISU).
If I was a Cowboy, I'd be LIVID. But I'm a 'Cat and hope it plays out that we get another shot at Texass.
Are you sure we would win that 3-way tie? OSU beat us both. I know it's convoluted but that seems wild.
That's the way I understand it. Because it is 3 teams, they throw out the head-to-head victories and just take the record against the next-highest ranked opponents (KU and ISU).
If I was a Cowboy, I'd be LIVID. But I'm a 'Cat and hope it plays out that we get another shot at Texass.
My understanding is that if we would have played OU, then OSU would be in due to head-to-head over both of us. But since we didn't play OU, they just skip right past that.
Are you sure we would win that 3-way tie? OSU beat us both. I know it's convoluted but that seems wild.
That's the way I understand it. Because it is 3 teams, they throw out the head-to-head victories and just take the record against the next-highest ranked opponents (KU and ISU).
If I was a Cowboy, I'd be LIVID. But I'm a 'Cat and hope it plays out that we get another shot at Texass.
My understanding is that if we would have played OU, then OSU would be in due to head-to-head over both of us. But since we didn't play OU, they just skip right past that.
Winning a 3 way tie with OU and OSU is weird to me, since OSU beat us both. But we're going to have weird tiebreakers like that just about every year regardless since we have so many teams and no divisions.probably discussed in the cigars thread but having a championship game in a conference without divisions is very dumb.
Winning a 3 way tie with OU and OSU is weird to me, since OSU beat us both. But we're going to have weird tiebreakers like that just about every year regardless since we have so many teams and no divisions.probably discussed in the cigars thread but having a championship game in a conference without divisions is very dumb.
got tix for that ISU game in MHK
Yea it's true, however we want #2 to be true the most.
When you have three teams tied with each other, the tiebreaker should definitely be their win pct against each other. Lmao at whoever made these rules.Except it's perfectly possible the three of them never played. The tiebreaker makes sense.
When you have three teams tied with each other, the tiebreaker should definitely be their win pct against each other. Lmao at whoever made these rules.Except it's perfectly possible the three of them never played. The tiebreaker makes sense.
It’d be nice to be on the long side of a shitty rule for once
NOT A RULEIt’d be nice to be on the long side of a shitty rule for once
Oh, my sweet summer child. Is getting to play every decent teams' backup QBs not enough for you?
NOT A RULEIt’d be nice to be on the long side of a shitty rule for once
Oh, my sweet summer child. Is getting to play every decent teams' backup QBs not enough for you?
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It’d be nice to be on the long side of a shitty rule for once
Oh, my sweet summer child. Is getting to play every decent teams' backup QBs not enough for you?
It’d be nice to be on the long side of a shitty rule for once
Oh, my sweet summer child. Is getting to play every decent teams' backup QBs not enough for you?
Hey let’s just cut the bullhockey and stop pretending. We all know the plan all along has been to sandbag Jailin the whole season leading up to the Sunflower Showdown presented by Dillon’s. He has had exactly one job and that is to study ksucatsu filme all day erryday in preparation for this Saturday’s matchup on the gridiron (and by not playing it saves double duty of keeping the available film on him to a minimum)
boy do i feel silly
It’d be nice to be on the long side of a shitty rule for once
Oh, my sweet summer child. Is getting to play every decent teams' backup QBs not enough for you?
Hey let’s just cut the bullhockey and stop pretending. We all know the plan all along has been to sandbag Jailin the whole season leading up to the Sunflower Showdown presented by Dillon’s. He has had exactly one job and that is to study ksucatsu filme all day erryday in preparation for this Saturday’s matchup on the gridiron (and by not playing it saves double duty of keeping the available film on him to a minimum)
AND he can still play this weekend while preserving his red shirt before transferring to USC. V smart.
Honestly KSU is the best chance the Hateful8 have for a non OUT big12 champion in their last year so I expect everything to fall into place and get us in the big12 championship game.
The only issue is I could see the suckclones doing sucklones things and beating Texas this weekend and making some convoluted 4 way tie where we get left out.
https://x.com/KellisRobinett/status/1724527640642490714?s=20I don't understand any more. The conference is "clarifying" the rules tomorrow after clarifying a couple of days ago that the cats would win a three way tie with the Oklahoma schools? Are they clarifying for this season or for next?
Maybe not anymore. This will have to go to a vote by the AD's right?
Yeah, like, IMO changing the rulings mid season is ridiculous, even if it were to help us, those are the terms, you have to agree with them and move on. Alter after the season.
https://x.com/KellisRobinett/status/1724527640642490714?s=20Two things
Maybe not anymore. This will have to go to a vote by the AD's right?
https://x.com/KellisRobinett/status/1724527640642490714?s=20
Maybe not anymore. This will have to go to a vote by the AD's right?
2. If you MFers don't start changing the x to the word twitter when you post URLs I'm gonna put icy hot in your boxers.
https://x.com/KellisRobinett/status/1724527640642490714?s=20gonna put icy hot in your boxers.
Maybe not anymore. This will have to go to a vote by the AD's right?
https://x.com/KellisRobinett/status/1724527640642490714?s=20
Maybe not anymore. This will have to go to a vote by the AD's right?
2. If you MFers don't start changing the x to the word twitter when you post URLs I'm gonna put icy hot in your boxers.
:lol: Word, though. Or make these lazy admins get off their Lululemon lifestyles and make a very simple fix. Cowards!!
Saul isn’t walking back through that door.https://x.com/KellisRobinett/status/1724527640642490714?s=20
Maybe not anymore. This will have to go to a vote by the AD's right?
2. If you MFers don't start changing the x to the word twitter when you post URLs I'm gonna put icy hot in your boxers.
:lol: Word, though. Or make these lazy admins get off their Lululemon lifestyles and make a very simple fix. Cowards!!
Mods are playing the long game that the name eventually reverts back to twitter.
https://x.com/KellisRobinett/status/1724527640642490714?s=20Two things
Maybe not anymore. This will have to go to a vote by the AD's right?
1. I don't know what the hell Tramel is talking about. He's mentioning "rules clarification" but didn't provide anything attributable and there's nothing new on the Big 12 website stating a change. The one specific tie breaking scenario he's talking about is very clear and doesn't need clarification. The first tie breaker in a three way should state "if team A has conference wins against team B and team C, team A will represent the conference in the championship game." It does not say that, what it says is clear even though Oklahoma State people, rightfully, don't like it. There's no shot they're changing the tie breaking procedure now, maybe, probably in the off season, but not now. Only OSU would benefit from that, there are literally 5 other schools would be like, nah.
2. If you MFers don't start changing the x to the word twitter when you post URLs I'm gonna put icy hot in your boxers.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1724563230201160040?t=CRPBYs5kWff3KdG77GZSfg
So we do not have a shot?It's looking a lot bleaker
So we do not have a shot?
This isn’t loading so no idea what this is about.
lol, Fitz not missing his opportunity to whine
https://x.com/LifeofFitz/status/1724637163042570749?s=20
They haven't ever rough ridin' done anything yet, sheesh. K-State media melting down about this is so soft.
head-to-head does mean something, but it's just one game and a team's full resume is a lot more telling. yea we played as bad as possible vs osu and they barely squeaked by, but we also didn't lose 3-45 to ucf.
I do think it's clearly wrong to change the rule mid season, but I also really hate agreeing with super cringey K-State twitter.
I do think it's clearly wrong to change the rule mid season, but I also really hate agreeing with super cringey K-State twitter.It seems like clearly no way they’d do it. I’m curious where the smoke is coming from, but it’s hard to take seriously.
They have to clarify now because schools & journalists are asking.
Okie Lite getting screwed over because if it was the H2H format they are at the top.They have to clarify now because schools & journalists are asking.
This is the biggest part I don't get about the whole story. The tiebreaker rule isn't vague at all. It clearly says if the tied teams haven't all played each other then you go to the next step. What would have prompted the questions in the first place?
They have to clarify now because schools & journalists are asking.
This is the biggest part I don't get about the whole story. The tiebreaker rule isn't vague at all. It clearly says if the tied teams haven't all played each other then you go to the next step. What would have prompted the questions in the first place?
They have to clarify now because schools & journalists are asking.
This is the biggest part I don't get about the whole story. The tiebreaker rule isn't vague at all. It clearly says if the tied teams haven't all played each other then you go to the next step. What would have prompted the questions in the first place?
I get that, but that has nothing to do with the clarity of the rule. The question would be more like “hey are you guys thinking of changing this cause it doesn’t seem very fair.”Okie Lite getting screwed over because if it was the H2H format they are at the top.They have to clarify now because schools & journalists are asking.
This is the biggest part I don't get about the whole story. The tiebreaker rule isn't vague at all. It clearly says if the tied teams haven't all played each other then you go to the next step. What would have prompted the questions in the first place?
I'd like our cats to get another shot at Texas :whornsdown:
They have to clarify now because schools & journalists are asking. The Big12 hasn’t said anything officially, but they definitely have to be working on it now & it got leaked.
I’m at the point right now that I don’t think they’ve decided anything, but someone said some placating words to OSU to hold them off & they ran to Tramel/McMurphy with it. I don’t see how anyone in the Big12 office even has the authority to change the rules. However, as K-State, if they are trying it I’m happy to know now so I can get my lawyers working on it now.
They have already done it
They have already done it
As of 30 seconds ago they haven't announced anything, nor have they changed the procedure that's currently listed on the website.
https://big12sports.com/news/2008/7/31/1546006.aspx
I know this is hard for K-State fans and media but I'll actually wait to freakout until I'm given reason to. I still won't freak out though.
They have already done it
As of 30 seconds ago they haven't announced anything, nor have they changed the procedure that's currently listed on the website.
https://big12sports.com/news/2008/7/31/1546006.aspx
I know this is hard for K-State fans and media but I'll actually wait to freakout until I'm given reason to. I still won't freak out though.
They already had the meeting and the outcome is decided, it will be released today.
I get that, but that has nothing to do with the clarity of the rule. The question would be more like “hey are you guys thinking of changing this cause it doesn’t seem very fair.”Okie Lite getting screwed over because if it was the H2H format they are at the top.They have to clarify now because schools & journalists are asking.
This is the biggest part I don't get about the whole story. The tiebreaker rule isn't vague at all. It clearly says if the tied teams haven't all played each other then you go to the next step. What would have prompted the questions in the first place?
The extra comma is weird but inconsequential. There isn’t a way to read the rule where the comma changes the meaning.
Considering OkState is probably not going 2-0 to end the season, this is all going to be moot and the 'ship will be OU vs. Texas. They are going to be chanting S-E-C in Arlington...
Considering OkState is probably not going 2-0 to end the season, this is all going to be moot and the 'ship will be OU vs. Texas. They are going to be chanting S-E-C in Arlington...
Yes on the first part, but I also don't think that OU and UT will both win their last two games.
Does OSU losing even gain us anything? I think we have to have OU lose too, and I really wouldn't want OSU to lose at this point to essentially have a Texas/OU champ game.
Considering OkState is probably not going 2-0 to end the season, this is all going to be moot and the 'ship will be OU vs. Texas. They are going to be chanting S-E-C in Arlington...
Yes on the first part, but I also don't think that OU and UT will both win their last two games.
Both the Oklahoma schools have very easy games to end the season. UT is really the only one on upset alert. Where do you see the red dirt teams failing?
So, has there been anything official from the big12 or still speculation? I can't figure out if we're still mad about tramel's article or some official word from the conference.They have already done it
As of 30 seconds ago they haven't announced anything, nor have they changed the procedure that's currently listed on the website.
https://big12sports.com/news/2008/7/31/1546006.aspx
I know this is hard for K-State fans and media but I'll actually wait to freakout until I'm given reason to. I still won't freak out though.
They already had the meeting and the outcome is decided, it will be released today.
Well, if this is the case and the ADs and/or the BOGs agreed to it, I'd hope that the meltdown would stop. Who the eff am I kidding though?
So, has there been anything official from the big12 or still speculation? I can't figure out if we're still mad about tramel's article or some official word from the conference.They have already done it
As of 30 seconds ago they haven't announced anything, nor have they changed the procedure that's currently listed on the website.
https://big12sports.com/news/2008/7/31/1546006.aspx
I know this is hard for K-State fans and media but I'll actually wait to freakout until I'm given reason to. I still won't freak out though.
They already had the meeting and the outcome is decided, it will be released today.
Well, if this is the case and the ADs and/or the BOGs agreed to it, I'd hope that the meltdown would stop. Who the eff am I kidding though?
This is hilarious. She's pretty easily the best tweeter of the hyper online K-State twitterazzi
https://twitter.com/alison_renner/status/1724773272913322449
This is hilarious. She's pretty easily the best tweeter of the hyper online K-State twitterazzi
https://twitter.com/alison_renner/status/1724773272913322449
It’s a fireable offense if the commissioner does that. The conference can recover from a stupid rule that fucks over an existing member and gets changed in the off-season. I’m not sure it can recover from very clearly changing a rule in the middle of the year without a vote of members.
Looking at the conference web site, I don't see any reference to clarification regarding CCG play. Did the "clarification" get released somewhere else where one could see exactly what it says?That’s the weirdest part. Semi reputable reporters have said they received a statement, but even they haven’t published it as far as I know.
It would be very Big XII like to leak this to the media to gauge the reaction and then seeing it explode like this, walk back and be all "just kidding as we never changed the website".This has to be a part of it. I’d also guess they grossly overestimated how receptive members would be on the Wednesday call and are now begging the disinterested members to sign off on the change before they say anything publicly.
Looking at the conference web site, I don't see any reference to clarification regarding CCG play. Did the "clarification" get released somewhere else where one could see exactly what it says?That’s the weirdest part. Semi reputable reporters have said they received a statement, but even they haven’t published it as far as I know.
From a legal perspective, it is not a clarification but a change. The stupider course of action is to try to pretend it's a clarification instead of admitting it's a change. The Big XII chose to take the stupider route here.
But if I had to argue the Big XII's position in court, I would point to the comma and say the rule is legal gibberish as written, so some clarification is required. The Commissioner is authorized to clarify the rules. That's what he did.
It's just the intent of the rule was clear even if it was poorly drafted, and the "clarification" completely changed the intent of the rule.
Oh well.
Looking at the conference web site, I don't see any reference to clarification regarding CCG play. Did the "clarification" get released somewhere else where one could see exactly what it says?That’s the weirdest part. Semi reputable reporters have said they received a statement, but even they haven’t published it as far as I know.
It’s chickenshit they’ve only emailed it out & didn’t do their normal press release process.
This tweet has a screen shot of the email to reporters.
https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1724908858601259426?s=46&t=ErlGZadBqbmnPNUCBSgcPA
From a legal perspective, it is not a clarification but a change. The stupider course of action is to try to pretend it's a clarification instead of admitting it's a change. The Big XII chose to take the stupider route here.
But if I had to argue the Big XII's position in court, I would point to the comma and say the rule is legal gibberish as written, so some clarification is required. The Commissioner is authorized to clarify the rules. That's what he did.
It's just the intent of the rule was clear even if it was poorly drafted, and the "clarification" completely changed the intent of the rule.
Oh well.
It’s pretty clear that they lifted the rule from the PAC-12 and the comma was put in as a typo. I still wish someone would try to FOIA communications between a school & the Big12 office to see if there’s an email/communication that contains the proposed rule during the rule voting process to see if the typo is actually in the rule or if it’s just a typo on the website.
What legal recourse would we have? It seems like a bad long term play to engage in that.
So get an injunction to force the championship game to be postponed? Like what outcome could we possibly hope to achieve here.
So get an injunction to force the championship game to be postponed? Like what outcome could we possibly hope to achieve here.
if we end up in a 3 way tie for 2nd place and don't make the ccg, nothing is stopping us from hanging a 2023 b12 champs flag
So get an injunction to force the championship game to be postponed? Like what outcome could we possibly hope to achieve here.
At this point I’m just fan-fictioning what I hope Gene would have said yesterday morning. I also want him to come out & put out a statement that says it’s obvious the conference is lying about the clarification/change because of these data points & also tries to shame his fellow ADs for allowing a change to the rules to happen with 75% of the conference season done while he was taking the bullet for them by being on the playoff committee, but I know he won’t.
Basically I’m posting through it.
if we end up in a 3 way tie for 2nd place and don't make the ccg, nothing is stopping us from hanging a 2023 b12 champs flag
^gd right
So get an injunction to force the championship game to be postponed? Like what outcome could we possibly hope to achieve here.
There's no reason the issue couldn't be resolved within like 5 days by a neutral arbitrator. It's only two issues: (1) does the commissioner's office have authority to change a tiebreaker procedure midseason, and (2) would it be a change of the tiebreaker rules to have the head-to-head winner advance out of step 1 if the tied teams haven't all played each other.
Maybe the rules require a longer dispute resolution procedure, but I'd expect they would be prepared to address crap pretty quickly.
if we end up in a 3 way tie for 2nd place and don't make the ccg, nothing is stopping us from hanging a 2023 b12 champs flag
the thought of okie light sipping dr pepper from the golden chalice directly after us makes me sick and they don’t deserve to
Personally, I would like to go to the Dr. Pepper this year. I wanted to go last year but I was traveling back to TX and I was still sick enough it probably wouldn’t have been feasible.
he’d probably leave a pubic hair because if i’m being honest he looks like he eats half his meals at the Ythe thought of okie light sipping dr pepper from the golden chalice directly after us makes me sick and they don’t deserve to
Mike Grundy would not only insist on taking the first sip but he would leave a mullet hair floating in there and completely on purpose bc he’s Just Like That
he’d probably leave a pubic hair because if i’m being honest he looks like he eats half his meals at the Y
he’d probably leave a pubic hair because if i’m being honest he looks like he eats half his meals at the Ythe thought of okie light sipping dr pepper from the golden chalice directly after us makes me sick and they don’t deserve to
Mike Grundy would not only insist on taking the first sip but he would leave a mullet hair floating in there and completely on purpose bc he’s Just Like That
Huge BYU fan rn
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@PeteChatgpt with the subscription. It won’t let you use real people, brand names, organizations or patently controversial stuff. So, you have to work around it
which AI art creator are you using? it looks very fun
at this point, I cannot root for byu. they deserve to lose every game forever after how they’ve shot themselves in the foot todayIt’s really hard for bad teams to win games
at this point, I cannot root for byu. they deserve to lose every game forever after how they’ve shot themselves in the foot todayIt’s really hard for bad teams to win games
We want Ok. St. to lose, right?I have no idea any more.
Seriously, how did we lose to Okie State. I hate it even more cause had we won it's win out and we got this no prob.
Seriously, how did we lose to Okie State. I hate it even more cause had we won it's win out and we got this no prob.Pick 6 with less than a minute left in the half.
So I'm a bit of a dim bulb, has it definitely been decided that we won't win the tiebreaker now even if we win out?
Looks like we need OSU and one of UT/OU to lose also. Slim chance for both to happen.
it looks like we might not back2back but if even in our down years we get 9-10 wins, i’m ok with it I guess
tbh i’m eagerly waiting for gene to amend the name of the stadium to Chris and Rhonda’s Family and LHC Bill Snyder Stadium.it looks like we might not back2back but if even in our down years we get 9-10 wins, i’m ok with it I guess
Our floor is definitely being raised
i’m praying for pop tarts
a texas bowl game against a&m is of no interest to me and i’d probably not even watch.
i really don’t care about any bowls. there was a time, sure, that I couldn’t wait until the bowl announcement show, but that’s not the case anymore. i wonder what happened? the big 12’s shitty bowl agreements maybe killed it. idk.
Plus going to Florida is waaaaaaay better than Texas
Unless its NY6 or CFP at this point I'm not even going to have a special snack during a bowl game. Just leftovers.same but i’m hoping for a good snack (little debbie quality) vs bad snack (leftover ramen noodles).
Every bowl game should be in california, florida, arizona, or new orleans
We can get in the Dr.P with a loss. Wild ass scenario though. These non division mega conferences are really rough ridin' stupid
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Every bowl game should be in california, florida, arizona, or new orleans
Las Vegas can stay too. Texas gotta go tho.
/Every bowl game should be in california, florida, arizona, or new orleans
Las Vegas can stay too. Texas gotta go tho.
/Every bowl game should be in california, florida, arizona, or new orleans
Las Vegas can stay too. Texas gotta go tho.
What's wrong w/ Texas (in a dome of course)?
If Texas wins out what are the chances it gets into the CFP? If so, we (Big 12) get more money, right?
We need OSU and OU to both lose.If that happened if I'm being honest I think it would bring me as much joy from the lols as it would from ksu making the dr pep
We need OSU and OU to both lose.
No idea what happens if Texas loses and there is a 4 way tie. At that point, the Big 12 should put out another clarification that KSU and OSU make the championship game.
12 teams was actually perfection for a conference size
Yeah, 10 was the absolute best. I love round robins.I get why we added the ccg but really the round robin champion is the absolute best way to identify and reward the best team
how about 20 teams, 2x 10-team divisions, full round robin in division and CCG for the best from each? I don't like the idea of being locked into a division though, so there can be a rotation of members between both divisions with protections for cherished rivalries or something like that
10 is the best.
Since we'll never go back to that. Does that mean 20 (2x 10 team divisions) is the right number for a mega-conference in football?
OU and UT double-birding the rest of the B12 on their way out the door isn’t very fun to have to stomach. Worse when our Cats had every opportunity to be there in Arlington instead of at least one of them.
OU and UT double-birding the rest of the B12 on their way out the door isn’t very fun to have to stomach. Worse when our Cats had every opportunity to be there in Arlington instead of at least one of them.
OU needs OSU to lose to get into the game.
This conference deserves a red river rivalry 2.0 in Arlington tbh
I mean if we don't win it, I don't give a crap who does. Doubt I even watch it.CCGs the Cats don't play in are boring and pointless. There is a 0% chance I watch.
Ends up this is a totally forgettable season filled with bad losses and zero good wins.
Oh well
I'd argue we had exactly one "bad" loss and one "good" win
I'd argue we had exactly one "bad" loss and one "good" win
I'd argue we had exactly one "bad" loss and one "good" win
The fact that I don't reflexively know which these two are kind of argues against that
The correct answer to our best win is actually Troy, which will be 11-2 after winning the Sun Belt title on Saturday with their only other loss by 2 points to James Madison. Pretty decent chance they'll finish 12-2 and in the top 25.
I've really enjoyed this season so far. Just a handful of plays away from going back to defend our Pepper.
There could be a very fun bowl game in our future as well. Iowa St loss was very weird but whatever.
The correct answer to our best win is actually Troy, which will be 11-2 after winning the Sun Belt title on Saturday with their only other loss by 2 points to James Madison. Pretty decent chance they'll finish 12-2 and in the top 25.
forgot about that one but I think KU on the road might be better (bonus for rivalry game)
ku was playing their third string qb. so while we should all be happy that we won, it was not a good win.Daniels has yet to play half a season and Bean owns KU’s best wins, so calling him a second stringer is a bit disingenuous.
ku was playing their third string qb. so while we should all be happy that we won, it was not a good win.Daniels has yet to play half a season and Bean owns KU’s best wins, so calling him a second stringer is a bit disingenuous.
Bean was dressed for the game. The coaches made the decision that Ballard gave them a better shot to win, and they were probably right.
As someone who lived through the Kody Cook Experience, I'm really tired of this "third string quarterback" talking point. If I was a Hawk fan, I would be very embarrassed by this.ku was playing their third string qb. so while we should all be happy that we won, it was not a good win.Daniels has yet to play half a season and Bean owns KU’s best wins, so calling him a second stringer is a bit disingenuous.
Bean was dressed for the game. The coaches made the decision that Ballard gave them a better shot to win, and they were probably right.
Our best win is whoever snowbrag says it is imo
ku was playing their third string qb. so while we should all be happy that we won, it was not a good win.Daniels has yet to play half a season and Bean owns KU’s best wins, so calling him a second stringer is a bit disingenuous.
Bean was dressed for the game. The coaches made the decision that Ballard gave them a better shot to win, and they were probably right.
Ends up this is a totally forgettable season filled with bad losses and zero good wins.
Oh well
There's no way this is serious, right?
Pop tart would be great. I was worried a loss would knock us back in the pecking order ( or does that even matter anymore)...
i’m praying for pop tartsstill praying for pop tarts but worried this loss will punish us
a texas bowl game against a&m is of no interest to me and i’d probably not even watch.
i really don’t care about any bowls. there was a time, sure, that I couldn’t wait until the bowl announcement show, but that’s not the case anymore. i wonder what happened? the big 12’s shitty bowl agreements maybe killed it. idk.
To the world, yes. To someone who has paid attention to college football the last 10-20 years, no way.Pop tart would be great. I was worried a loss would knock us back in the pecking order ( or does that even matter anymore)...
i think to the rest of the world we are indistinguishable from iowa state
Pop tart would be great. I was worried a loss would knock us back in the pecking order ( or does that even matter anymore)...
Didn’t Iowa state get selected over us a couple years ago bc their AD like promised they would sell their allotment and then some?
Like we had the better record and it was the better bowl, but we were still far enough down on the ladder that the bowls could opt for whomstever they wanted to invite?
I just remember feeling very :confused: that a bowl could choose between us and Iowa state and they took Iowa state on purpose
I think the losing team should get to have the crust
ESPN and CBS projection are both the Texas Bowl in Houston
ESPN vs. Texas A&M
CBS vs. Kentucky
It would be fun if we played a PAC team.
Independence Bowl = :frown:
If WVU gets the Pop Tart that'll sting.
Although I have a hard time believing we'll be 7th in the picking order.
My biggest thing is I want a bowl that doesn't kickoff at like 8:30 pm central. If we're not in a NY6, kickoff time is what matters.I have young children so honestly late evening for me is second only to NYE afternoon.
Who knew cf3 hates watching the cats with his family so much?