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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: EMAWzifried on March 25, 2023, 07:46:17 PM
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We just can't bust through to the inal four. Eight time and no luck. I'm sad to say I've seen them all.
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it's literally bad luck, not some mental block that little ol' kstate has
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doesnt the glass ceiling imply some kind of sex discrimination
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it's literally bad luck, not some mental block that little ol' kstate has
Exactly we're like 13-5 in the sweet 16? We'll get there
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it's literally bad luck, not some mental block that little ol' kstate has
Agree. Still hurts though. Up 7 and then miss like 2 layups/dunks to go up bigger then FAU goes on a run. They were a good team though.
I don’t think even like basketball and I had a blast watching this team. Looking forward to more.
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Keep winning sweet sixteen games and eventually we'll break though.
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We just can't bust through to the inal four. Eight time and no luck. I'm sad to say I've seen them all.
crap, that sucks, 'zif. The three I've experienced is bad enough, I couldn't imagine enduring all eight of these.
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Honestly frustrating we stuck it out with oscar as long as we did or we probably would’ve broken through by now.
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Yeah, Tang built a team with everything but a rebounder this year, and that was our downfall. Let have a few years to build a complete team, and we'll shatter the ceiling all the way to a natty. Joust too bad Quis doesn't get to keep showcasing his genus.
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We just can't bust through to the inal four. Eight time and no luck. I'm sad to say I've seen them all.
crap, that sucks, 'zif. The three I've experienced is bad enough, I couldn't imagine enduring all eight of these.
Yeah, I still remember all of them well. Add to those the down to the wire loss to Marquette the year they won the natty on a play they changed the rule for the next year and a 2-point OT loss to Louisville a year they won the NC. Heartbreak so many years. I just so badly want the Cats to make the FF.
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4-10 in elite 8. 60 years. It hurts
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4-10 in elite 8. 60 years. It hurts
this is like a tiny bee sting compared to 1988. The ultimate KITN.
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4-10 in elite 8. 60 years. It hurts
this is like a tiny bee sting compared to 1988. The ultimate KITN.
I think today was pretty comparable.
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I was too young to care much about 88 but Butler was like a billion times worse than today. For me at least.
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We were definitely better than KU in 88. Easily top 5. Can't say we're better than FAU or top 5 this year.
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There were no expectations this year. Just a fun ride!
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4-10 in elite 8. 60 years. It hurts
this is like a tiny bee sting compared to 1988. The ultimate KITN.
I think today was pretty comparable.
MIR you of all people I’d expect to be a little less doom & gloomy in this situation. We got to an E8 and had some incredible national attention in Tang’s first year. There’s no reason to think we can’t be a perennial Sweet 16 team. Given enough opportunities, the FFs will come.
I have no clue what happened in 1988, but I know the last two times we made an E8 it felt like a culmination of a lot of struggles. This is year one. EXPECT TO WIN.
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4-10 in elite 8. 60 years. It hurts
this is like a tiny bee sting compared to 1988. The ultimate KITN.
I think today was pretty comparable.
MIR you of all people I’d expect to be a little less doom & gloomy in this situation. We got to an E8 and had some incredible national attention in Tang’s first year. There’s no reason to think we can’t be a perennial Sweet 16 team. Given enough opportunities, the FFs will come.
I have no clue what happened in 1988, but I know the last two times we made an E8 it felt like a culmination of a lot of struggles. This is year one. EXPECT TO WIN.
I'm not doomy and gloomy at all. I'm really happy with this season but disappointed that we couldn't party rock in Houston. I already have a room :cry:
I think today is comparable to 1998 simply because I think the this basketball team had about the same chance of winning two games in Houston as that football team had in beating Tennessee in the fiesta bowl.
I'm slightly sad because, right now, I don't think we have any reason to think that this was our best chance, but I'm still grateful for this ride and this is my favorite K-State basketball team of all time.
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I loved this team too, which is the worst part about Tang having to put together a roster from scratch. We only had one year of seeing the key pieces together. Makes me really excited for the future, though.
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I was too young to care much about 88 but Butler was like a billion times worse than today. For me at least.
Butler was a lot better than fau
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8th time for me #frown
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I was too young to care much about 88 but Butler was like a billion times worse than today. For me at least.
Butler was a lot better than fau
Perhaps but I didn't realize it at the time!
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I was too young to care much about 88 but Butler was like a billion times worse than today. For me at least.
Butler was a lot better than fau
Pergaps but I didn't realize it at the time!
Nobody respected Butler at the time, even when they won their final four game people crap on them, no one liked how slow they played and didn't show them respect until they rimmed that half court shot out against Duke.
What's wild is that although the style of play is vastly different, the profile of that Butler and this Florida Atlantic game is remarkably similar. Butler was 31-4 when we played them with a top 15 kenpom and a 23 game win streak. FAU was 34-3 at tipoff today with only an 11 game win streak, but the longest in the country, and 17 in kenpom.
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Also been around for all eight…. Marquette and Louisville were prob two most kitn, then KU and Butler. But for us old guys that suffered through football, Asbury, Wooldridge, Chiefs sucking… what a year!!!! Big 12 Champions FB, SB champs Chiefs, Elite Eight Tang Gang!!! Just hoping we can finish the job and win a natty before I croak. My dad was there in ‘51 BB and never gave up hope.
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Also been around for all eight…. Marquette and Louisville were prob two most kitn, then KU and Butler. But for us old guys that suffered through football, Asbury, Wooldridge, Chiefs sucking… what a year!!!! Big 12 Champions FB, SB champs Chiefs, Elite Eight Tang Gang!!! Just hoping we can finish the job and win a natty before I croak. My dad was there in ‘51 BB and never gave up hope.
I turn 70 in a couple of weeks....not super old but you begin to wonder, will I ever see them win the big one. Chances like this year don't come along all that often...
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Just felt like the pieces were falling into place perfectly. Marquis was lined up for tournament POTY. Tang on the way to Naismith COTY (still possible?). Really wanted to face UT in the champ game.
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Just felt like the pieces were falling into place perfectly. Marquis was lined up for tournament POTY. Tang on the way to Naismith COTY (still possible?). Really wanted to face UT in the champ game.
We had a lot of pieces. And a lovable group of guys you couldn’t help but cheer for. But the lack of rebounding was a huge problem. I’m surprised we were able to overcome it as many times as we did, but you’re just not going to cut down nets when you get out rebounded so badly. Was still a magical season and I was glad to have a reason to be excited for the cats. Had been a while
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It’s just a weird thing. None of the previous games have anything to do with this one
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Just another KITN, this one probably the worse cause things were lining up so damn well.
Oh well it's over, a great team, and a future for once
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What makes this one hurt is we had a legit shot to win it all since so many good teams were upset. To me it really felt like the stars were aligning. But whatever I guess. It was still a great season that exceeded expectations by a ridiculous amount.
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What makes this one hurt is we had a legit shot to win it all since so many good teams were upset. To me it really felt like the stars were aligning. But whatever I guess. It was still a great season that exceeded expectations by a ridiculous amount.
Succinct write up of the correct way to feel about it
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What makes this one hurt is we had a legit shot to win it all since so many good teams were upset. To me it really felt like the stars were aligning. But whatever I guess. It was still a great season that exceeded expectations by a ridiculous amount.
Yep.
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What makes this one hurt is we had a legit shot to win it all since so many good teams were upset. To me it really felt like the stars were aligning. But whatever I guess. It was still a great season that exceeded expectations by a ridiculous amount.
this narrative is broke
every team remaining is rough ridin' good, no one lucks their way to a national championship
the truth, regardless of whether some of you mongloids want to admit it, is that our staff had this team punching above its weight for a lot of the season. i appreciate how much these dudes gave up to make themselves and our school look as good as they did.
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I think against UK and MSU we looked more like we did in the first half of the season when we were just playing out of our minds. And yesterday looked more like the second half when we weren't.
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What makes this one hurt is we had a legit shot to win it all since so many good teams were upset. To me it really felt like the stars were aligning. But whatever I guess. It was still a great season that exceeded expectations by a ridiculous amount.
this narrative is broke
every team remaining is rough ridin' good, no one lucks their way to a national championship
the truth, regardless of whether some of you mongloids want to admit it, is that our staff had this team punching above its weight for a lot of the season. i appreciate how much these dudes gave up to make themselves and our school look as good as they did.
This is my take.
These games are always going to be a coin flip. And yeah, you can flip heads 7 times in a row. It’s not even remotely predictive of how the next matchup will go.
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Just felt like the pieces were falling into place perfectly. Marquis was lined up for tournament POTY. Tang on the way to Naismith COTY (still possible?). Really wanted to face UT in the champ game.
I bet him +4000 to win the tournament MOP and I was feeling real good about it. We didn't even have to win the national championship for him to get that.
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I too, have been around for all 8.
1971/1972- great team. Big 8 title winner. Beat Texas to make the EE. Lose 72-65 to Louisville in Ames.
1972/73 - Big 8 champs. Win S16 vs SW Louisiana. They had Bo Lamar. Averaged 29ppg. Guy was ****ing great. Cats eke out a 66-63 win. Then get Memphis (State). Gene Bartow was their coach. He would replace Wooden @ UCLA later in the decade. Larry Finch and (ABA/NBA) star Larry Kenon. Memphis played in the title game vs Walton and UCLA. They were unstoppable vs KSU. 92-72. 25-4. Season over. First time I was heartbroken.
1975 - Big 8 champs. Defeat Penn in the 32. Beat Boston College in the S16 to face off against Syracuse in the EE. Game tied and one of the greatest Big 8 players ever, Chuckie Williams comes down the court and drains a 28/29 footer to give the Cats the lead with 5 seconds to play. I mean it was one of those “NO, NO, NO DON’T SHOOT THAT …. **** YES I KNEW HE’D HIT THAT SHOT !!!! Syracuse inbounds, drives to the lane and hits a 12 footer that bounced 176 times on the rim then fell in to tie it. At. The. ****ing. Buzzer. Lose in OT. **** you, upstate NY.
I can't even discuss the Jerry Eaves, Louisville rim clanger.
1977- CATS vs Marquette. In OKC. Coached by Al McGuire. They had Butch Lee and Bo Ellis. They wore uniforms designed by Bo Ellis that were made to not be tucked in. Actually pretty cool stuff. Cats down three with 00:17 to play. Mike Evans puts up a jumper, misses, but Darrell Winston goes high above everybody and grabs it, lays it in and is fouled! ****yea!!!! Chance to tie with just seconds to play.
But wait - Rule 26(a) was instituted and the basket nullified but two FT’s awarded.
The original rule stated that a basket did not count if the ball was tipped in. A shot had to be ruled a "controlled shot" or a "controlled tip" to count. Usually, that meant that a rebounder had to have two-handed control of the ball. Winston controlled the ball, laid it in and was fouled. So, instead of a possible tie and OT. It was two FT’s. He made them both and Marquette held on for a 67-66 win. Marquette advanced to the FF and won it all. **** you Marquette.
Also, the rule was rescinded 12 days after the 77 title game. **** YOU NCAA.
1981- CATS beat USF then beat #1 seed Oregon State on the famous SI Cover photo of Rolando Blackmon high, high, HIGH in the air draining a baseline jumper with 2 seconds to play. (Jay Randolph on the call for NBC). Knock off Illinois in the S16 and get wasted by UNC in the EE. (Al Wood, Sam Perkins, James Worthy)
My dislike of UNC grew a lot that decade. Although I really enjoyed then when I got to watch Walter Davis. Damn, he was great.
88 - was in The Silverdome to witness it so nuff said.
2010 - beat N Texas, BYU. S16 the incredible 2OT game vs Xavier in SLS. Then Butler. They were just was so damn tough. Had the lead late. But couldn’t hold it.
2018 - beat Kentucky in the S16 (I mean .. No biggie we whoop dat ass on the regular :D ) And on to Loyola Chicago. And I swear this to you. Had my couch all ready. Texted friends. Life appears great. Was making a sandwich at tip-off. By the time I sat down it was 20-4 Loyola. Game was ****ing over in the first 6 minutes.
This year though, I really enjoyed the journey even though the result was rough. Let's do it again next season.
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I too, have been around for all 8.
1971/1972- great team. Big 8 title winner. Beat Texas to make the EE. Lose 72-65 to Louisville in Ames.
1972/73 - Big 8 champs. Win S16 vs SW Louisiana. They had Bo Lamar. Averaged 29ppg. Guy was ****ing great. Cats eke out a 66-63 win. Then get Memphis (State). Gene Bartow was their coach. He would replace Wooden @ UCLA later in the decade. Larry Finch and (ABA/NBA) star Larry Kenon. Memphis played in the title game vs Walton and UCLA. They were unstoppable vs KSU. 92-72. 25-4. Season over. First time I was heartbroken.
1975 - Big 8 champs. Defeat Penn in the 32. Beat Boston College in the S16 to face off against Syracuse in the EE. Game tied and one of the greatest Big 8 players ever, Chuckie Williams comes down the court and drains a 28/29 footer to give the Cats the lead with 5 seconds to play. I mean it was one of those “NO, NO, NO DON’T SHOOT THAT …. **** YES I KNEW HE’D HIT THAT SHOT !!!! Syracuse inbounds, drives to the lane and hits a 12 footer that bounced 176 times on the rim then fell in to tie it. At. The. ****ing. Buzzer. Lose in OT. **** you, upstate NY.
I can't even discuss the Jerry Eaves, Louisville rim clanger.
1977- CATS vs Marquette. In OKC. Coached by Al McGuire. They had Butch Lee and Bo Ellis. They wore uniforms designed by Bo Ellis that were made to not be tucked in. Actually pretty cool stuff. Cats down three with 00:17 to play. Mike Evans puts up a jumper, misses, but Darrell Winston goes high above everybody and grabs it, lays it in and is fouled! ****yea!!!! Chance to tie with just seconds to play.
But wait - Rule 26(a) was instituted and the basket nullified but two FT’s awarded.
The original rule stated that a basket did not count if the ball was tipped in. A shot had to be ruled a "controlled shot" or a "controlled tip" to count. Usually, that meant that a rebounder had to have two-handed control of the ball. Winston controlled the ball, laid it in and was fouled. So, instead of a possible tie and OT. It was two FT’s. He made them both and Marquette held on for a 67-66 win. Marquette advanced to the FF and won it all. **** you Marquette.
Also, the rule was rescinded 12 days after the 77 title game. **** YOU NCAA.
1981- CATS beat USF then beat #1 seed Oregon State on the famous SI Cover photo of Rolando Blackmon high, high, HIGH in the air draining a baseline jumper with 2 seconds to play. (Jay Randolph on the call for NBC). Knock off Illinois in the S16 and get wasted by UNC in the EE. (Al Wood, Sam Perkins, James Worthy)
My dislike of UNC grew a lot that decade. Although I really enjoyed then when I got to watch Walter Davis. Damn, he was great.
88 - was in The Silverdome to witness it so nuff said.
2010 - beat N Texas, BYU. S16 the incredible 2OT game vs Xavier in SLS. Then Butler. They were just was so damn tough. Had the lead late. But couldn’t hold it.
2018 - beat Kentucky in the S16 (I mean .. No biggie we whoop dat ass on the regular :D ) And on to Loyola Chicago. And I swear this to you. Had my couch all ready. Texted friends. Life appears great. Was making a sandwich at tip-off. By the time I sat down it was 20-4 Loyola. Game was ****ing over in the first 6 minutes.
This year though, I really enjoyed the journey even though the result was rough. Let's do it again next season.
that’s awesome. you make me feel like the casual that I am.
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What makes this one hurt is we had a legit shot to win it all since so many good teams were upset. To me it really felt like the stars were aligning. But whatever I guess. It was still a great season that exceeded expectations by a ridiculous amount.
this narrative is broke
every team remaining is rough ridin' good, no one lucks their way to a national championship
the truth, regardless of whether some of you mongloids want to admit it, is that our staff had this team punching above its weight for a lot of the season. i appreciate how much these dudes gave up to make themselves and our school look as good as they did.
Nobody said it was going to be easy. But all variations of potential opponents are not equal in difficulty
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More and more the quality of the team inside the jersey will not necessarily be correlated to the Name on the front of said jersey.
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What makes this one hurt is we had a legit shot to win it all since so many good teams were upset. To me it really felt like the stars were aligning. But whatever I guess. It was still a great season that exceeded expectations by a ridiculous amount.
this narrative is broke
every team remaining is rough ridin' good, no one lucks their way to a national championship
the truth, regardless of whether some of you mongloids want to admit it, is that our staff had this team punching above its weight for a lot of the season. i appreciate how much these dudes gave up to make themselves and our school look as good as they did.
Nobody said it was going to be easy. But all variations of potential opponents are not equal in difficulty
i get it but it’s as much about how you’re playing as who you’re playing
when playing well, the cats put up 116 on texas
to think this team, who squeaked by a 6 and a 7, had a legit shot at winning the championship is kinda aggressive imo. we made it as far as we should have.
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What makes this one hurt is we had a legit shot to win it all since so many good teams were upset. To me it really felt like the stars were aligning. But whatever I guess. It was still a great season that exceeded expectations by a ridiculous amount.
this narrative is broke
every team remaining is rough ridin' good, no one lucks their way to a national championship
the truth, regardless of whether some of you mongloids want to admit it, is that our staff had this team punching above its weight for a lot of the season. i appreciate how much these dudes gave up to make themselves and our school look as good as they did.
Nobody said it was going to be easy. But all variations of potential opponents are not equal in difficulty
i get it but it’s as much about how you’re playing as who you’re playing
when playing well, the cats put up 116 on texas
to think this team, who squeaked by a 6 and a 7, had a legit shot at winning the championship is kinda aggressive imo. we made it as far as we should have.
I LOVED this team. But, to pretend it wasn’t full of holes is folly. They struggled to defend the perimeter, they didn’t have a rim protector, they weren’t good at rebounding, their offense (without the ball) could get stagnant, and they often had a turnover problem.
However, they had heart, offense, playmakers, and a desire to get better in spades. They punched well above their weight. Nowell had a record breaking 4 games. It could have just as easily been a second round bounce out if he had a bad game.
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I too, have been around for all 8.
1971/1972- great team. Big 8 title winner. Beat Texas to make the EE. Lose 72-65 to Louisville in Ames.
1972/73 - Big 8 champs. Win S16 vs SW Louisiana. They had Bo Lamar. Averaged 29ppg. Guy was ****ing great. Cats eke out a 66-63 win. Then get Memphis (State). Gene Bartow was their coach. He would replace Wooden @ UCLA later in the decade. Larry Finch and (ABA/NBA) star Larry Kenon. Memphis played in the title game vs Walton and UCLA. They were unstoppable vs KSU. 92-72. 25-4. Season over. First time I was heartbroken.
1975 - Big 8 champs. Defeat Penn in the 32. Beat Boston College in the S16 to face off against Syracuse in the EE. Game tied and one of the greatest Big 8 players ever, Chuckie Williams comes down the court and drains a 28/29 footer to give the Cats the lead with 5 seconds to play. I mean it was one of those “NO, NO, NO DON’T SHOOT THAT …. **** YES I KNEW HE’D HIT THAT SHOT !!!! Syracuse inbounds, drives to the lane and hits a 12 footer that bounced 176 times on the rim then fell in to tie it. At. The. ****ing. Buzzer. Lose in OT. **** you, upstate NY.
I can't even discuss the Jerry Eaves, Louisville rim clanger.
1977- CATS vs Marquette. In OKC. Coached by Al McGuire. They had Butch Lee and Bo Ellis. They wore uniforms designed by Bo Ellis that were made to not be tucked in. Actually pretty cool stuff. Cats down three with 00:17 to play. Mike Evans puts up a jumper, misses, but Darrell Winston goes high above everybody and grabs it, lays it in and is fouled! ****yea!!!! Chance to tie with just seconds to play.
But wait - Rule 26(a) was instituted and the basket nullified but two FT’s awarded.
The original rule stated that a basket did not count if the ball was tipped in. A shot had to be ruled a "controlled shot" or a "controlled tip" to count. Usually, that meant that a rebounder had to have two-handed control of the ball. Winston controlled the ball, laid it in and was fouled. So, instead of a possible tie and OT. It was two FT’s. He made them both and Marquette held on for a 67-66 win. Marquette advanced to the FF and won it all. **** you Marquette.
Also, the rule was rescinded 12 days after the 77 title game. **** YOU NCAA.
1981- CATS beat USF then beat #1 seed Oregon State on the famous SI Cover photo of Rolando Blackmon high, high, HIGH in the air draining a baseline jumper with 2 seconds to play. (Jay Randolph on the call for NBC). Knock off Illinois in the S16 and get wasted by UNC in the EE. (Al Wood, Sam Perkins, James Worthy)
My dislike of UNC grew a lot that decade. Although I really enjoyed then when I got to watch Walter Davis. Damn, he was great.
88 - was in The Silverdome to witness it so nuff said.
2010 - beat N Texas, BYU. S16 the incredible 2OT game vs Xavier in SLS. Then Butler. They were just was so damn tough. Had the lead late. But couldn’t hold it.
2018 - beat Kentucky in the S16 (I mean .. No biggie we whoop dat ass on the regular :D ) And on to Loyola Chicago. And I swear this to you. Had my couch all ready. Texted friends. Life appears great. Was making a sandwich at tip-off. By the time I sat down it was 20-4 Loyola. Game was ****ing over in the first 6 minutes.
This year though, I really enjoyed the journey even though the result was rough. Let's do it again next season.
We were Big 8 runner up to KU in 75. Lost a late year game in Lawrence for the title when Mike Evans got his nose broken. He played the tournament with an ancient padded mask Hartman got from Iba when playing football at Okie State. It might also have had It been the game Owens feigned an injury to his piss-poor shooting point guard so he didn't have to take critical FTs. We made the field because it was the first year they expanded the tournament but not yet to 64 (I think it was 48).
And don't forget the 80 2-point OT loss to eventual NC Louisville. IMO that was the best K-State of the post Winter era. Would have been seeded much higher if not for a rash of injuries that came after we'd already beat KU, MU and OU on the road. One of the injuries to Stankovich was actually a good thing because it force Hartman to play a point guard whose name I can't recall right now. 5-10 and faster the eff. Nealy would get a rebound and it was an instant fastbreak with him racing down the middle of the courty and Blackman and Tyrone Adams filling the lane.
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More dudes will get us there. The fact we were in the game with the limited minutes Johnson was able to play is amazing.
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I’m not generally a blame the refs type of guy, but with the proliferation of legalized sports betting, there will need to be more careful attention paid to possible tomfoolery.
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I too, have been around for all 8.
1971/1972- great team. Big 8 title winner. Beat Texas to make the EE. Lose 72-65 to Louisville in Ames.
1972/73 - Big 8 champs. Win S16 vs SW Louisiana. They had Bo Lamar. Averaged 29ppg. Guy was ****ing great. Cats eke out a 66-63 win. Then get Memphis (State). Gene Bartow was their coach. He would replace Wooden @ UCLA later in the decade. Larry Finch and (ABA/NBA) star Larry Kenon. Memphis played in the title game vs Walton and UCLA. They were unstoppable vs KSU. 92-72. 25-4. Season over. First time I was heartbroken.
1975 - Big 8 champs. Defeat Penn in the 32. Beat Boston College in the S16 to face off against Syracuse in the EE. Game tied and one of the greatest Big 8 players ever, Chuckie Williams comes down the court and drains a 28/29 footer to give the Cats the lead with 5 seconds to play. I mean it was one of those “NO, NO, NO DON’T SHOOT THAT …. **** YES I KNEW HE’D HIT THAT SHOT !!!! Syracuse inbounds, drives to the lane and hits a 12 footer that bounced 176 times on the rim then fell in to tie it. At. The. ****ing. Buzzer. Lose in OT. **** you, upstate NY.
I can't even discuss the Jerry Eaves, Louisville rim clanger.
1977- CATS vs Marquette. In OKC. Coached by Al McGuire. They had Butch Lee and Bo Ellis. They wore uniforms designed by Bo Ellis that were made to not be tucked in. Actually pretty cool stuff. Cats down three with 00:17 to play. Mike Evans puts up a jumper, misses, but Darrell Winston goes high above everybody and grabs it, lays it in and is fouled! ****yea!!!! Chance to tie with just seconds to play.
But wait - Rule 26(a) was instituted and the basket nullified but two FT’s awarded.
The original rule stated that a basket did not count if the ball was tipped in. A shot had to be ruled a "controlled shot" or a "controlled tip" to count. Usually, that meant that a rebounder had to have two-handed control of the ball. Winston controlled the ball, laid it in and was fouled. So, instead of a possible tie and OT. It was two FT’s. He made them both and Marquette held on for a 67-66 win. Marquette advanced to the FF and won it all. **** you Marquette.
Also, the rule was rescinded 12 days after the 77 title game. **** YOU NCAA.
1981- CATS beat USF then beat #1 seed Oregon State on the famous SI Cover photo of Rolando Blackmon high, high, HIGH in the air draining a baseline jumper with 2 seconds to play. (Jay Randolph on the call for NBC). Knock off Illinois in the S16 and get wasted by UNC in the EE. (Al Wood, Sam Perkins, James Worthy)
My dislike of UNC grew a lot that decade. Although I really enjoyed then when I got to watch Walter Davis. Damn, he was great.
88 - was in The Silverdome to witness it so nuff said.
2010 - beat N Texas, BYU. S16 the incredible 2OT game vs Xavier in SLS. Then Butler. They were just was so damn tough. Had the lead late. But couldn’t hold it.
2018 - beat Kentucky in the S16 (I mean .. No biggie we whoop dat ass on the regular :D ) And on to Loyola Chicago. And I swear this to you. Had my couch all ready. Texted friends. Life appears great. Was making a sandwich at tip-off. By the time I sat down it was 20-4 Loyola. Game was ****ing over in the first 6 minutes.
This year though, I really enjoyed the journey even though the result was rough. Let's do it again next season.
that’s awesome. you make me feel like the casual that I am.
almost all of these sound worse than the one yesterday
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Yeah last night was just a close match start to finish. We’re just so accustomed to being the team that hits the clutch shots at the end.
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We were Big 8 runner up to KU in 75. Lost a late year game in Lawrence for the title when Mike Evans got his nose broken. He played the tournament with an ancient padded mask Hartman got from Iba when playing football at Okie State. It might also have had It been the game Owens feigned an injury to his piss-poor shooting point guard so he didn't have to take critical FTs. We made the field because it was the first year they expanded the tournament but not yet to 64 (I think it was 48).
And don't forget the 80 2-point OT loss to eventual NC Louisville. IMO that was the best K-State of the post Winter era. Would have been seeded much higher if not for a rash of injuries that came after we'd already beat KU, MU and OU on the road. One of the injuries to Stankovich was actually a good thing because it force Hartman to play a point guard whose name I can't recall right now. 5-10 and faster the eff. Nealy would get a rebound and it was an instant fastbreak with him racing down the middle of the courty and Blackman and Tyrone Adams filling the lane.
Oh I completely forgot about Evans getting a broken nose. That mask! And he never skipped a beat. He and Chuckie were the “missile twins”.
I think that guard was Glenn Marshall. And that was a helluva 1980 team.
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Seem to recall the KU pg who couldn't make FTs was Aubry Nash. Also the fast K-State pg on the 80 team was either Fred or Glen Marshall, we had pgs with both names during that era. The rumor was he got fed up sitting on the bench and watch Stankovich play and left for his home in St. Louis the night Stank got injured. Hartman got in his car and chased down the bus to bring hiim back to Manhattan.
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Constantly be a top 4 seed and we’ll get there
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Seem to recall the KU pg who couldn't make FTs was Aubry Nash. Also the fast K-State pg on the 80 team was either Fred or Glen Marshall, we had pgs with both names during that era. The rumor was he got fed up sitting on the bench and watch Stankovich play and left for his home in St. Louis the night Stank got injured. Hartman got in his car and chased down the bus to bring hiim back to Manhattan.
Not certain if it was Nash, but I recall the incident pretty well. However, I’m pretty sure the game you’re thinking of was in 74. KU was really good. FF team I think. Hartman was asked about the FT situation after the game and gave a terse “no comment”. That was that. It could have been a short TV interview from Ron Paradis on Channel 13. Time is tough on the memory.
Was able to attend the 1975 game in Lawrence and they absolutely beat the brakes off the cats that game. Early on, KU was hot, and after a missed KU jumper, Chuckie Williams went high to rebound it one handed. Took his eye off the ball and, with nobody around, it slipped out of bounds. Crowd went crazy. They responded by going on a 20-0 run ( or pretty close to that). Lost 91-53.
I’m going to have to dig out old newspapers now. I might still have those. My mom was sort of an archivist. Kennedy assassination, moon landing, Pearl Harbor, SB IV… Good ol’ mom….She kept ‘em all.
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Also been around for all eight…. Marquette and Louisville were prob two most kitn, then KU and Butler. But for us old guys that suffered through football, Asbury, Wooldridge, Chiefs sucking… what a year!!!! Big 12 Champions FB, SB champs Chiefs, Elite Eight Tang Gang!!! Just hoping we can finish the job and win a natty before I croak. My dad was there in ‘51 BB and never gave up hope.
I turn 70 in a couple of weeks....not super old but you begin to wonder, will I ever see them win the big one. Chances like this year don't come along all that often...
The chase is where all the fun is though.
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Also been around for all eight…. Marquette and Louisville were prob two most kitn, then KU and Butler. But for us old guys that suffered through football, Asbury, Wooldridge, Chiefs sucking… what a year!!!! Big 12 Champions FB, SB champs Chiefs, Elite Eight Tang Gang!!! Just hoping we can finish the job and win a natty before I croak. My dad was there in ‘51 BB and never gave up hope.
I turn 70 in a couple of weeks....not super old but you begin to wonder, will I ever see them win the big one. Chances like this year don't come along all that often...
The chase is where all the fun is though.
Bingo. If you can't enjoy the ride just as much then what is the point of hoping for a championship?
Our team arguably accomplished more under oscar's first year than Tang's, but I had way more fun this year, which is all that really matters as a fan.
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Also been around for all eight…. Marquette and Louisville were prob two most kitn, then KU and Butler. But for us old guys that suffered through football, Asbury, Wooldridge, Chiefs sucking… what a year!!!! Big 12 Champions FB, SB champs Chiefs, Elite Eight Tang Gang!!! Just hoping we can finish the job and win a natty before I croak. My dad was there in ‘51 BB and never gave up hope.
I turn 70 in a couple of weeks....not super old but you begin to wonder, will I ever see them win the big one. Chances like this year don't come along all that often...
The chase is where all the fun is though.
Bingo. If you can't enjoy the ride just as much then what is the point of hoping for a championship?
Our team arguably accomplished more under oscar's first year than Tang's, but I had way more fun this year, which is all that really matters as a fan.
I spent some time being mad about missing some layups and free throws and a turnover here and there, but I pretty quickly let it go. I watched more basketball this year than I have in forever. Took Lil SF to 2 games at Sprint Center this year. He got fist pounds from KJ and Coach Tang. We had a blast watching this year.
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More dudes will get us there. The fact we were in the game with the limited minutes Johnson was able to play is amazing.
Not to mention 12 for 18 at the free throw line. FAU claimed 6 more points at the line than we did.
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More dudes will get us there. The fact we were in the game with the limited minutes Johnson was able to play is amazing.
Not to mention 12 for 18 at the free throw line. FAU claimed 6 more points at the line than we did.
and quis was like 10/11 i think. so, rest of team 2 for 7. oof.
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More dudes will get us there. The fact we were in the game with the limited minutes Johnson was able to play is amazing.
Not to mention 12 for 18 at the free throw line. FAU claimed 6 more points at the line than we did.
and quis was like 10/11 i think. so, rest of team 2 for 7. oof.
KJ missed the front end of multiple 1 and 1’s so the loss of points is really worse than that.
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More dudes will get us there. The fact we were in the game h the limited minutes Johnson was able to play is amazing.
FAU isn't that good a FT shooting team, but nutted up Saturday. Johnson and Sills had a tendency to miss from the line all season, but were generally reliable late in games. Really, would rather have seen Tomlin or Bae Bae at the line than either of those two.
Not to mention 12 for 18 at the free throw line. FAU claimed 6 more points at the line than we did.
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Just felt like the pieces were falling into place perfectly. Marquis was lined up for tournament POTY. Tang on the way to Naismith COTY (still possible?). Really wanted to face UT in the champ game.
I bet him +4000 to win the tournament MOP and I was feeling real good about it. We didn't even have to win the national championship for him to get that.
Ha, I did the same thing right after the Sweet Sixteen. Last guy to win MVP on a team that didn't win was Olojuwan in '83 wasn't it?
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Just felt like the pieces were falling into place perfectly. Marquis was lined up for tournament POTY. Tang on the way to Naismith COTY (still possible?). Really wanted to face UT in the champ game.
I bet him +4000 to win the tournament MOP and I was feeling real good about it. We didn't even have to win the national championship for him to get that.
Ha, I did the same thing right after the Sweet Sixteen. Last guy to win MVP on a team that didn't win was Olojuwan in '83 wasn't it?
That's right