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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 18, 2023, 09:56:33 AM
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I dunno about you guys, but I think lots of deep thoughts. Figured I would create a thread for others to share their deep thoughts, as well as giving others the opportunity to reflect and hopefully learn something.
I’ll get started with a topical one:
I wonder how many women flashed their boobs at mardis gras before everyone was like “yes this is just part of the celebration”
I guess that could apply to many instances of being the first person to do something. Like I bet the first guy to milk a cow, everybody probably thought that dude was a pervert.
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As a kid, I was pretty sure that quicksand and the Bermuda Triangle were things I was going to have to worry about. These have now been replaced with parasitic infections in the skin of the parineum
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Pit thread? Nah this is gonna end up in Wackys World.
However. I do have deep thoughts on stuff all the time. Will be interested in seeing where this thread goes.
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What's the deal with soup and bread? Whether you put the bread in the soup or the soup in the bread, you still end up with the same thing: sloppy bread.
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What's the deal with soup and bread? Whether you put the bread in the soup or the soup in the bread, you still end up with the same thing: sloppy bread.
Given enough time, everything has an entropy of 0
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Right. I often have deep thoughts about the inevitable heat death of the Universe.
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Is it true that if you don't use it you'll lose it?
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I dunno about you guys, but I think lots of deep thoughts. Figured I would create a thread for others to share their deep thoughts, as well as giving others the opportunity to reflect and hopefully learn something.
I’ll get started with a topical one:
I wonder how many women flashed their boobs at mardis gras before everyone was like “yes this is just part of the celebration”
I guess that could apply to many instances of being the first person to do something. Like I bet the first guy to milk a cow, everybody probably thought that dude was a pervert.
Pretty sure goats were milked way before cows. This brings up a deep thought about which event came first, goat roping or goat milking?
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As a kid, I was pretty sure that quicksand and the Bermuda Triangle were things I was going to have to worry about. These have now been replaced with parasitic infections in the skin of the parineum
Your deep thought has made me remember as a kid I quit fishing catfish and peeing in the water after discovering candiru, sometimes known as the “penis fish,” a small Amazonian catfish. It's reported to lodge itself in the urethra of people who may be urinating in the water.
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As a kid, I was pretty sure that quicksand and the Bermuda Triangle were things I was going to have to worry about. These have now been replaced with parasitic infections in the skin of the parineum
Your deep thought has made me remember as a kid I quit fishing catfish and peeing in the water after discovering candiru, sometimes known as the “penis fish,” a small Amazonian catfish. It's reported to lodge itself in the urethra of people who may be urinating in the water.
Katpappy no!
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As a kid, I was pretty sure that quicksand and the Bermuda Triangle were things I was going to have to worry about. These have now been replaced with parasitic infections in the skin of the parineum
Your deep thought has made me remember as a kid I quit fishing catfish and peeing in the water after discovering candiru, sometimes known as the “penis fish,” a small Amazonian catfish. It's reported to lodge itself in the urethra of people who may be urinating in the water.
Katpappy no!
Hey Big Train, WTF?
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What it MIGHT be like when we die, is what it's like when you are under anesthesia. During that time you are under, did you have any memories or perceive the passage of time? I have been placed under anesthesia and have no memories and I did not experience the passage of time.
That's what non-existence "feels" like. Of course non-existence cannot be experienced, but you get the point.
If THAT is what happens when you die, then death is not a misfortune for the person who dies (cannot perceive anything). It is a misfortune for their loved ones though.
I'm very much hoping for heaven, but it's nice to know that non-existence is there as a fallback plan.
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My preference and belief is non-existence and I find that pretty comforting. I also think it's pretty cool that my body will be broken down and returned to the universe.
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Pete I used to really struggle with the idea that my consciousness could ever cease to exist, like surely there must be an afterlife where my spirit goes…but then I remember that like, literally any night where I get a really good sleep and I don’t have any recollection of dreaming…I mean, that right there is like 8 hours where I have no account for anything that happened over that time. So if I can experience that in little 6-8 hour episodes then that makes me think it most definitely is possible that when we die our consciousness just legit is done
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My preference and belief is non-existence and I find that pretty comforting. I also think it's pretty cool that my body will be broken down and returned to the universe.
I'm with you brother :thumbs:
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My preference and belief is non-existence and I find that pretty comforting. I also think it's pretty cool that my body will be broken down and returned to the universe.
As God's religion tells us, "from dust we came and to dust we shall return".
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The concept of forever. Like, true forever, has always scared me. I guess I look to the futurama episode when they keep going so far into the future they "come back around" but it scares me.
I'm terrified of the void, the "end," the degradation of the universe and it's ultimate demise. I know I won't be around for it but I have that knee jerk, wide awake panic attack when thinking about the permanence of that. And even trying to assuage that with the thought of everlasting bliss in heaven seems, once again, scary cause how can you ever comprehend forever. What if it's actually not great, not actually good? I like that the Good Place explored that concept. IDK, just so hard to comprehend. I chalk it up to ultimately our mortal lives can only comprehend something with a beginning and an end, so not having that ultimately throws us off.
It really the last few months also pushed me out of a darker place, truly treat my time as more precious. I guess I see our lives like that futurama episode, we always come back around again, but it's so long in the time space everything is forgotten and it's new (to us) but the "forever" of time has washed away all concept of memory and we relive it again.
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The concept of forever. Like, true forever, has always scared me. I guess I look to the futurama episode when they keep going so far into the future they "come back around" but it scares me.
I'm terrified of the void, the "end," the degradation of the universe and it's ultimate demise. I know I won't be around for it but I have that knee jerk, wide awake panic attack when thinking about the permanence of that. And even trying to assuage that with the thought of everlasting bliss in heaven seems, once again, scary cause how can you ever comprehend forever. What if it's actually not great, not actually good? I like that the Good Place explored that concept. IDK, just so hard to comprehend. I chalk it up to ultimately our mortal lives can only comprehend something with a beginning and an end, so not having that ultimately throws us off.
It really the last few months also pushed me out of a darker place, truly treat my time as more precious. I guess I see our lives like that futurama episode, we always come back around again, but it's so long in the time space everything is forgotten and it's new (to us) but the "forever" of time has washed away all concept of memory and we relive it again.
When the inevitable heat death of the Universe occurs, time will cease to exist. Fear not, my friend. ~10^92 years is a long ways away.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uD4izuDMUQA&feature=shares
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Not sure this really qualifies as a deep thought per se, but the “all characters are fictional” disclaimer you see at the beginning of films/tv shows is a direct result of the plot to kill Rasputin and I think about that fact all the time
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I’ve read sci-fi books of the concept of shared experience amongst a population (we all feel and share the pain or joy) that makes existence more pleasant. There are some that take it a step farther and have everyone assimilate into a single entity like the borg on Star Trek. One idea that seems cool to me is like the borg, but the shared knowledge is the entirety of the universe. The higher power is this collective of everything that ever was and will be. It knows me like my grandfathers knew me, and every blade of grass I have ever walked on. Every star that was ever born or died. When my life ceases, my energy joins with that.
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What if Jesus was just really terribly misquoted? What if it is “whoever believes in THESE VALUES THAT I AM TEACHING shall not perish.” You think “God” needs to be “believed in” in a very specific fashion? Wouldn’t the omnipotent, omniscient one true god be secure enough to not need you to believe in it, and instead merely want you to believe in the principles of love and good orderly direction and want you to continue to strive to put those to work in your life?
Whoever practices these principles in this life will experience it to the fullest, and by doing so they will help enable others to do the same. That is loving “God,” which is the sum of all things.
I am willing to gamble with my soul that this is more important than believing in a virgin birth and resurrection of a corpse.
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What if Jesus was just really terribly misquoted? What if it is “whoever believes in THESE VALUES THAT I AM TEACHING shall not perish.” You think “God” needs to be “believed in” in a very specific fashion? Wouldn’t the omnipotent, omniscient one true god be secure enough to not need you to believe in it, and instead merely want you to believe in the principles of love and good orderly direction and want you to continue to strive to put those to work in your life?
Whoever practices these principles in this life will experience it to the fullest, and by doing so they will help enable others to do the same. That is loving “God,” which is the sum of all things.
I am willing to gamble with my soul that this is more important than believing in a virgin birth and resurrection of a corpse.
What would be the point of believing in Jesus at all if you were going to believe he was misquoted that badly?
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Makes one wonder, doesn’t it.
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What if Jesus was just really terribly misquoted? What if it is “whoever believes in THESE VALUES THAT I AM TEACHING shall not perish.” You think “God” needs to be “believed in” in a very specific fashion? Wouldn’t the omnipotent, omniscient one true god be secure enough to not need you to believe in it, and instead merely want you to believe in the principles of love and good orderly direction and want you to continue to strive to put those to work in your life?
Whoever practices these principles in this life will experience it to the fullest, and by doing so they will help enable others to do the same. That is loving “God,” which is the sum of all things.
I am willing to gamble with my soul that this is more important than believing in a virgin birth and resurrection of a corpse.
Non-dualism.
Christ’s teachings, Taoism, Plato and Proto Christians, Krishna and to an extent, the Stoics. Krishna and the Indian Brahms as well I believe, but not really sure.
Kundalini Yoga and the Sacred Secretion take it a step further.
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Makes one wonder, doesn’t it.
I mean, yeah. You’d basically be inventing a new religion. The Jesus in the Bible was incredibly clear about the supremacy of God.
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Makes one wonder, doesn’t it.
I mean, yeah. You’d basically be inventing a new religion. The Jesus in the Bible was incredibly clear about the supremacy of God.
But that’s only the Christianity agreed upon by the Council of Nicaea, and its later offshoots.
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Makes one wonder, doesn’t it.
I mean, yeah. You’d basically be inventing a new religion. The Jesus in the Bible was incredibly clear about the supremacy of God.
But that’s only the Christianity agreed upon by the Council of Nicaea, and its later offshoots.
Yeah, most people don’t know that groups of dudes got together every so often to simply decide what made it in and what was cut.
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Add Swedenborg to the earlier list
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I sometimes wonder…if there was a magical ledger, able to keep track of all atrocities and acts of extreme cruelty that have been perpetrated by mankind throughout the course of human history…would would be the ratio of those acts that were carried out in the name of religion/to appease a higher power vs those which were committed bc the responsible party felt like it
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I sometimes wonder…if there was a magical ledger, able to keep track of all atrocities and acts of extreme cruelty that have been perpetrated by mankind throughout the course of human history…would would be the ratio of those acts that were carried out in the name of religion/to appease a higher power vs those which were committed bc the responsible party felt like it
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Makes one wonder, doesn’t it.
I mean, yeah. You’d basically be inventing a new religion. The Jesus in the Bible was incredibly clear about the supremacy of God.
But that’s only the Christianity agreed upon by the Council of Nicaea, and its later offshoots.
Ok, but the point of the entire exercise was to try to include as much of the credible stuff as possible.
With the internet and "alternative facts" being what they are today, anyone could act the same way about Encyclopedia Britannica. ("But that's only the version of America agreed upon by the people who stole the election from Trump in 2020")
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I think the point is that those dudes back then were probably just as motivated to appease their leaders and reinforce their positions of power as anyone is today.
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i think i would rather there be a void than reincarnation. even if you were lucky to be reincarnated as like a mammal, most animals suffer and then die a terrible death. but most of the time we'd get reincarnated as something gross like worms or cockroaches. or some single-celled bullshit. although their lifespans aren't long so you get a lot of chances at getting a decent draw.
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Reincarnation seems like punishment
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Reincarnation seems like punishment
Ok but what if your consciousness gets reset with each reincarnation? Maybe that’s what deja vu is…an experience from your previous incarnation that wasn’t fully reset
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1 life is enough for this ksu cat
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1 life is enough for this ksu cat
Every atom in your body now used to be something else. A bunch of them used to be other living stuff.
Also, Heaven and Hell are both right here. We get to make either for ourselves and live in either we choose. +1 on the non-existence crew.
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by any standards the nerds in revenge of the nerds were pretty big druggies
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1 life is enough for this ksu cat
What if you came back as someone that made it in the boner thread?
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I sometimes wonder…if there was a magical ledger, able to keep track of all atrocities and acts of extreme cruelty that have been perpetrated by mankind throughout the course of human history…would would be the ratio of those acts that were carried out in the name of religion/to appease a higher power vs those which were committed bc the responsible party felt like it
Just about all of them fall under the second category, but a whole lot of them used religion as a convenient excuse to convince the masses to support them.
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I sometimes wonder…if there was a magical ledger, able to keep track of all atrocities and acts of extreme cruelty that have been perpetrated by mankind throughout the course of human history…would would be the ratio of those acts that were carried out in the name of religion/to appease a higher power vs those which were committed bc the responsible party felt like it
Just about all of them fall under the second category, but a whole lot of them used religion as a convenient excuse to convince the masses to support them.
hmmm...interesting take. I suppose i am of the opinion that, when you take out the truly psychopathic ones, that most people at least on some level believe in what they are doing. Or at least believe that they are on the side of righteousness. I don't think there are many people who are doing or going along with something that they know to be evil. Granted, i think there is also a level of cognitive dissonance there such that they will happily accept whatever flemsy excuse aligns with their worldview to justify their actions, but nonetheless i still think they believe what they are doing/supporting is right.
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I believe that the teachings of Christ at their heart are Eastern and non-dualistic in nature. The big hang up is that it is seen and understood through a western dualistic frame of mind. True Christianity, actually walking Jesus’ walk to our best ability is almost incompatible with a western point of view, which is inherently dualistic and imo selfish.
There is a podcast on Spotify called The Tao of Christ by Marshall Davis. The first few episodes are simply him reading his book of the same name with some intro information and some at the end of each episode.
Here is a link if you’d like to listen … https://open.spotify.com/episode/6FwHN5mwBvwNXPsIyPRzoE?si=m5oxmTKQQhqrq7OdEzuk1g&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A4es2YzqSSsqhxm8OqfXuT1
Here is another Spotify audio file of the Tao Te Ching itself. I believe the narrator reads three different translations back to back to back… https://open.spotify.com/episode/3ubqxoQr6dEbaCy77meQwM?si=Lq58ukaWQt-6Epelck736g
Nondualism wiki … https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondualism
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I sometimes wonder…if there was a magical ledger, able to keep track of all atrocities and acts of extreme cruelty that have been perpetrated by mankind throughout the course of human history…would would be the ratio of those acts that were carried out in the name of religion/to appease a higher power vs those which were committed bc the responsible party felt like it
Just about all of them fall under the second category, but a whole lot of them used religion as a convenient excuse to convince the masses to support them.
hmmm...interesting take. I suppose i am of the opinion that, when you take out the truly psychopathic ones, that most people at least on some level believe in what they are doing. Or at least believe that they are on the side of righteousness. I don't think there are many people who are doing or going along with something that they know to be evil. Granted, i think there is also a level of cognitive dissonance there such that they will happily accept whatever flemsy excuse aligns with their worldview to justify their actions, but nonetheless i still think they believe what they are doing/supporting is right.
You need religion to justify wars in a feudal system because you have to get support to launch a successful campaign. It wasn't all that important to Ghengis Khan, Alexander, or Caesar, though.
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Honestly not sure if nicname means dualistic or duelistic
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Honestly not sure if nicname means dualistic or duelistic
Dual. Fixed
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Reincarnation seems like punishment
Maybe human is the lowest level. Fruit Fly is highest level or something.
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everybody has a threshold for the ratio of water:dead body for which they would swim in that body of water. Like for example, most people would swim in the ocean. there are definitely dead bodies in the ocean. If there was a dead body in a swimming pool, you probably wouldn't want to swim in it. What is your volume of water:dead body ratio? be honest
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How dead we talking here?
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How dead we talking here?
this is really an interesting follow up question. On the one hand, a freshly dead body (like in the last 20 minutes) is a lot less gross from the standpoint of bloat/decay/smell/fishys already ate the eyeballs, etc. but then that begs the question what are you doing swimming around someone who just died a few minutes ago? What are you up to, fella?
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to follow-up with gross water things, think about the amount of crap and piss in the ocean. now think about the amount of crap and piss in a swimming pool. still gross.
also, i'm grossed out by the idea of a public pool because tons of kids are pissing in it, but i have no problem being in a private pool with a bunch of kids that i know, even though they're definitely pissing in it also.
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to follow-up with gross water things, think about the amount of crap and piss in the ocean. now think about the amount of crap and piss in a swimming pool. still gross.
also, i'm grossed out by the idea of a public pool because tons of kids are pissing in it, but i have no problem being in a private pool with a bunch of kids that i know, even though they're definitely pissing in it also.
Biggest difference is the public pool probably gets cleaned a lot more often.
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swimming pools in general are pretty gross
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swimming pools in general are pretty gross
It is a thing that frequently weirds me out but doesn't prevent me from enjoying
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the important thing to remember - regardless of whether or not it is true - is that the chlorine is in there, just constantly going to battle with all the piss and doodie, instantly neutralizing them and protecting me from their grossness.
Evidence: if even one little bit of un-neutralized piss/doodie is in the water then the water cannot be translucent and blue/clear. it has to turn yellow or brown. so, clear water means the chlorine is doing its job. whew!
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Have you ever wondered, “Does chlorine remove urine from my pool water?” We all know that people peeing in swimming pools is all too common. Unfortunately, it is a fact of life that some level of urine is found in most swimming pools. Many people have the misconception that chlorine will “kill” or remove any urine found in the pool water. Nope, that isn’t how it works. Chlorine will kill bacteria, but since urine is basically sterile, there is nothing for the chlorine to “kill.” Furthermore, chlorine does nothing to “remove” the urine from the water. If someone pees in the pool, it is there to stay.
yep, gross
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everybody has a threshold for the ratio of water:dead body for which they would swim in that body of water. Like for example, most people would swim in the ocean. there are definitely dead bodies in the ocean. If there was a dead body in a swimming pool, you probably wouldn't want to swim in it. What is your volume of water:dead body ratio? be honest
people swim in Lake Atitlan despite the known history of the Guatemalan civil war
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everybody has a threshold for the ratio of water:dead body for which they would swim in that body of water. Like for example, most people would swim in the ocean. there are definitely dead bodies in the ocean. If there was a dead body in a swimming pool, you probably wouldn't want to swim in it. What is your volume of water:dead body ratio? be honest
people swim in Lake Atitlan despite the known history of the Guatemalan civil war
yep. and closer to home, Lake Meade is a popular recreational lake even though the mafia has invited several folks to sleep with the fishes to which they rsvp'd yes to that invitation. I was just posing the question. If i'm being honest i have not done the necessary level of introspection to determine what my volume of water: dead body threshold is.
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by any standards the nerds in revenge of the nerds were pretty big druggies
at least one was a bit rapey too.
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i know they're kids but it's wild to me that peeing in a pool is a thing. even as a kid i knew that it was gross and inconsiderate. i did do it once but i was half-drowning and panicked while already needing to pee.
you know how looking in natural water under a microscope there's always a ton of weird looking things crawling around? how is that not crawling around and infecting all our orifices swimming in there? maybe because everywhere in the world there's weird tiny things crawling around already though.
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They say you have 2 deaths in your existence. The day your heart stops beating and your physical body dies, and then the second death is the last time anyone ever says your name. IIRC I believe this is a big deal for native/indigenous peoples…that when the person dies that people continue to say their name so that their memory endures.
As an ego maniac, I think one of the scariest thoughts to reckon with is when your legacy has reached its totality. That moment when literally nobody will ever speak your name or think of you ever again.
This kind of leads me to a second deep thought:
The best way to ensure that your legacy endures is to do something to be remembered by history. But if you want you go down in history for doing good…the world will not necessarily take notice. Like you can make the most beautiful art, or feed as many hungry people as you can, but it’s unlikely that the world will notice. But if you want history type remember you four being evil, you can pretty much do that, and if it’s heinous enough the world will take notice. Like history is far more likely to remember you for infamous reasons than for good deeds
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As I am not an ego maniac, tell me why a legacy matters?
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BAC have you seen Coco?
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As I am not an ego maniac, tell me why a legacy matters?
It doesn’t. And cheapens the virtue of your good deeds imo. This is especially applicable to rulers and holders of positions of power/influence.
“ When the Master governs, the people
are hardly aware that he exists.
Next best is a leader who is loved.
Next, one who is feared.
The worst is one who is despised.
If you don't trust people,
you make them untrustworthy.
The Master doesn't talk, he acts.
When his work is done,
the people say, "Amazing:
we did it, all by ourselves!’”
Lao-Tzu, Tao Te Ching (Chapter 17)
Is it better to be an evil man famed for being righteous or a righteous man despised as evil?
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As I am not an ego maniac, tell me why a legacy matters?
Because most people on this planet experience an extreme case of Main Character Syndrome. It really shouldn’t matter. It’s just an interesting thing to think about…how the memory/legacy of you outlives your physical body but eventually is also gone.
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:Lurk:
BAC have you seen Coco?
Not that I’m aware. Tell me more.
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As I am not an ego maniac, tell me why a legacy matters?
Because most people on this planet experience an extreme case of Main Character Syndrome. It really shouldn’t matter. It’s just an interesting thing to think about…how the memory/legacy of you outlives your physical body but eventually is also gone.
Once you come to terms with the fact that you will be forgotten/not cared about eventually, you can kind of stop worrying about it. I weirdly grappled with that a lot in high school and have been pretty zen about it ever since.
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:Lurk:BAC have you seen Coco?
Not that I’m aware. Tell me more.
the premise of the movie revolves around this topic. it's also very good!
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As I am not an ego maniac, tell me why a legacy matters?
Because most people on this planet experience an extreme case of Main Character Syndrome. It really shouldn’t matter. It’s just an interesting thing to think about…how the memory/legacy of you outlives your physical body but eventually is also gone.
Once you come to terms with the fact that you will be forgotten/not cared about eventually, you can kind of stop worrying about it. I weirdly grappled with that a lot in high school and have been pretty zen about it ever since.
DLew-Aurelius
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i know they're kids but it's wild to me that peeing in a pool is a thing. even as a kid i knew that it was gross and inconsiderate. i did do it once but i was half-drowning and panicked while already needing to pee.
you know how looking in natural water under a microscope there's always a ton of weird looking things crawling around? how is that not crawling around and infecting all our orifices swimming in there? maybe because everywhere in the world there's weird tiny things crawling around already though.
How about peeing in the ocean?
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About once a week I think “There’s a lot of clue assholes. Just dorky, inconsiderate assholes people are superficially nice too. They’re just clueless idiots. They have no idea 99% of people can’t stand them & are just waiting for them to leave.” Then I immediately worry that if they’re clueless, then I have the same odds myself of being clueless & could be one of them.
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About once a week I think “There’s a lot of clue assholes. Just dorky, inconsiderate assholes people are superficially nice too. They’re just clueless idiots. They have no idea 99% of people can’t stand them & are just waiting for them to leave.” Then I immediately worry that if they’re clueless, then I have the same odds myself of being clueless & could be one of them.
I’ve struggle with this a lot in my life. Just worried that other people don’t like me, and worrying about being judged. The best cure it to stop judging yourself and others, but I find that difficult as well. Just not judging things in general.
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Guys, if you're worried about this, then you're not the Clueless bad person. :thumbs:
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yeah, having ever worried about being a clueless bad person precludes you from being one
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If we started now, and our species started favoring humans with long, dexterous, toes, how many generations before we had feet comparable to hands in their utility.
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If we started now, and our species started favoring humans with long, dexterous, toes, how many generations before we had feet comparable to hands in their utility.
Not to be all Eugene the Eugenics guy, but are we talking like a state sponsored program of selective breeding on a massive scale or are we talking “starting now everyone starts trying to use their feet more like hands and they pass that imperative down to their children and we just see how it goes”?
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Assume that for some reason, long dexterous toes were perceived as highly desirable in a mate. Though state sponsored compelled breeding works for this thought exercise.
Let's further assume that one generation is 25 years.
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at least 2000 years.
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And it might not ever happen, even if we all tried our best.
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And it might not ever happen, even if we all tried our best.
Yeah, it's important to manage expectations.
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i think with state sponsored selective breeding - and more importantly a positive attitude - we could see meaningful changes in 300 years. but probably wouldn't get all the way there for a couple thou
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i wonder - either because i lack the higher cognitive function or because someone is intentionally keeping it secret - but like, how many things are out there that like, if i was aware of it I would be terrified? I mentioned in that balloon thread in the pit i referenced that scene from the 1996 filme Men In Black where TLJ says "there's always an arquillian battle cruiser or corillian death ray about to wipe out life on this miserable planet..." (i'm sure you know the scene i'm referring to) and it just kinda got me thinking like i wonder how frequently i am in grave danger or should be absolutely terrified but i have no idea.
Another example related to film (because for me that can be one of the easier ways to explain nebulous concepts when i don't have the necessary vocabulary) is if any of you guys saw that not-so-critically-acclaimed movie w/ Tony Shaloub and the girl from American Pie and also the lady that played Miss Honey in the original Matilda, yes i'm talking about 13 Ghosts. So like, it seemed like there lots of scenarios in that movie where if the character wasn't wearing the special glasses they weren't able to see the horror in front of them. And it seemed like in most of those cases, if you weren't aware that there was a homicidal ghost right in front of you then nothing happened, it was only for like when the people knew there was some supernatural danger around them.
So that would be like the other category of stuff that im like, man i wonder if there are just a bunch of angry ghosts in my vicinity and i walk right past them every day and if only i could see i would be reduced to a crying pile of mush until they decided to kill me in a super gruesome way.
tldr: ignorance is bliss, i suppose
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Ghosts aren't real so that should make you feel better
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I think people want ghosts and aliens to exist so that we don't feel so all alone, but I think we're probably all alone and that's frightening.
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I think people want ghosts and aliens to exist so that we don't feel so all alone, but I think we're probably all alone and that's frightening.
Yeah, like, how do you wrap your mind around just ceasing to exist? You can't, because you won't be around to think about it.
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Although I guess if you subscribe to the "anything that can happen will happen" philosophy of infinite universes maybe ghosts can be real
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I think people want ghosts and aliens to exist so that we don't feel so all alone, but I think we're probably all alone and that's frightening.
Yeah, like, how do you wrap your mind around just ceasing to exist? You can't, because you won't be around to think about it.
You obviously can't know the experience, but the concept seems fairly simple.
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I think people want ghosts and aliens to exist so that we don't feel so all alone, but I think we're probably all alone and that's frightening.
Man, ghosts and aliens being real would be awesome.
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Although I guess if you subscribe to the "anything that can happen will happen" philosophy of infinite universes maybe ghosts can be real
If you want to take it the other direction…rather than infinite outcomes, what do you think about fate? When considering it I think about it in a couple of ways:
1. Free will is an illusion. No matter how spontaneous you think you’re being, every move, every thought, every possible outcome was already pre-ordained
2. Thinking of fate as more of a “lane” or a “channel”. And that lane is going to lead you to several eventualities along the way. And there’s some wiggle room for the hundreds of millions of inconsequential things…if I scratch my nose now, if I shave tomorrow…all meaningless stuff bc it doesn’t take you out of your lane
I’m not sure I believe in fate, but I dunno maybe
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why would ghosts fall under the "can happen" category?
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why would ghosts fall under the "can happen" category?
Why wouldn't they?
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fate is a made-up idea that gives people an excuse for behavior, imo.
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I am a big believer in free will. My belief is that the “gift” of free will is the explanation for most suffering in the world (maybe all suffering?).
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fate is a made-up idea that gives people an excuse for behavior, imo.
Agree
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I’m a talking monkey tho. I can’t possibly understand the infinite, etc.
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why would ghosts fall under the "can happen" category?
Why wouldn't they?
there is no evidence to suggest there can be existence after death.
unlike aliens for example (life on earth is evidence that there can be existence on a planet)
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That's a weird standard, was there evidence of radio waves in 1500?
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That's a weird standard, was there evidence of radio waves in 1500?
ok sure, so "anything that can happen" just means "anything"
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to go with my earlier post, i think people throughout time have created the idea of gods, ghosts, aliens, etc as a way of trying to make sense of our existance.
The truth is probably that a puddle of ooze happened to have all of the exact requirements to build us and when we die, that's it. game over. no purpose of life, no higher power or greater meaning. just born, live, die, the end.
it really makes us so much more insignificant when you think about it that way.
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fate is a made-up idea that gives people an excuse for behavior, imo.
Exception: if the behavior is coaching basketball at a non-KSU school
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why would ghosts fall under the "can happen" category?
Why wouldn't they?
there is no evidence to suggest there can be existence after death.
unlike aliens for example (life on earth is evidence that there can be existence on a planet)
counterpoint: there are times/areas in New Orleans where you CANNOT get a taxi. Not because its dangerous, but because there have been such a high incidence of the passengers ending up being ghosts who dont pay the fare. The same thing happened in Japan after the nuclear plant accident in 2011 and i guess the Japanese cab drivers consider it more of an honor whereas the NOLA taxi drivers are like "hey that guy didn't pay!"
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why would ghosts fall under the "can happen" category?
Why wouldn't they?
there is no evidence to suggest there can be existence after death.
unlike aliens for example (life on earth is evidence that there can be existence on a planet)
counterpoint: there are times/areas in New Orleans where you CANNOT get a taxi. Not because its dangerous, but because there have been such a high incidence of the passengers ending up being ghosts who dont pay the fare. The same thing happened in Japan after the nuclear plant accident in 2011 and i guess the Japanese cab drivers consider it more of an honor whereas the NOLA taxi drivers are like "hey that guy didn't pay!"
counter counterpoint: i don't believe that (not you, i believe you. i just don't believe the stories)
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why would ghosts fall under the "can happen" category?
Why wouldn't they?
there is no evidence to suggest there can be existence after death.
unlike aliens for example (life on earth is evidence that there can be existence on a planet)
counterpoint: there are times/areas in New Orleans where you CANNOT get a taxi. Not because its dangerous, but because there have been such a high incidence of the passengers ending up being ghosts who dont pay the fare. The same thing happened in Japan after the nuclear plant accident in 2011 and i guess the Japanese cab drivers consider it more of an honor whereas the NOLA taxi drivers are like "hey that guy didn't pay!"
counter counterpoint: i don't believe that (not you, i believe you. i just don't believe the stories)
fair enough. If i'm being honest i think its a neat story and i just want it to be true. Just in case ghosts are real, sometimes like at night if i'm by myself and watching TV i will turn my head 90 degrees and look across the room and calmly but sternly say "get out of here!" It costs me nothing and if there is a ghost in the general direction i'm looking it probably freaks them out big time, hopefully enough to not haunt my house anymore.
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There are def aliens out there
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There are def aliens out there
Totes
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Although I guess if you subscribe to the "anything that can happen will happen" philosophy of infinite universes maybe ghosts can be real
If you want to take it the other direction…rather than infinite outcomes, what do you think about fate? When considering it I think about it in a couple of ways:
1. Free will is an illusion. No matter how spontaneous you think you’re being, every move, every thought, every possible outcome was already pre-ordained
2. Thinking of fate as more of a “lane” or a “channel”. And that lane is going to lead you to several eventualities along the way. And there’s some wiggle room for the hundreds of millions of inconsequential things…if I scratch my nose now, if I shave tomorrow…all meaningless stuff bc it doesn’t take you out of your lane
I’m not sure I believe in fate, but I dunno maybe
Regarding Point No. 2, this exemplifies the oft-misunderstood meaning of Robert Frost's "The Road Not Taken" (which itself is oft-misidentified as "The Road Less Traveled"). That is, people like to imagine that insignificant choices in their past alter their "fate" in meaningful ways. If only I'd made a different choice! Alas!
to go with my earlier post, i think people throughout time have created the idea of gods, ghosts, aliens, etc as a way of trying to make sense of our existance.
The truth is probably that a puddle of ooze happened to have all of the exact requirements to build us and when we die, that's it. game over. no purpose of life, no higher power or greater meaning. just born, live, die, the end.
it really makes us so much more insignificant when you think about it that way.
Your last sentence is the crux (no pun intended) of the issue. It feels overwhelming to think we simply cease to exist, and that the billions and billions of years that lead to our self-consciousness could have just been randomness. Enter religion, a facile explanation to assuage the fears that our consciousness may suddenly cease to exist. But I find it extraordinary that we were fortunate enough to happen to be born with the ability to think about our own thinking. It's a pretty amazing existence, if you can keep it.
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Although I guess if you subscribe to the "anything that can happen will happen" philosophy of infinite universes maybe ghosts can be real
If you want to take it the other direction…rather than infinite outcomes, what do you think about fate? When considering it I think about it in a couple of ways:
1. Free will is an illusion. No matter how spontaneous you think you’re being, every move, every thought, every possible outcome was already pre-ordained
2. Thinking of fate as more of a “lane” or a “channel”. And that lane is going to lead you to several eventualities along the way. And there’s some wiggle room for the hundreds of millions of inconsequential things…if I scratch my nose now, if I shave tomorrow…all meaningless stuff bc it doesn’t take you out of your lane
I’m not sure I believe in fate, but I dunno maybe
Regarding Point No. 2, this exemplifies the oft-misunderstood meaning of Robert Frost's "The Road Not Taken" (which itself is oft-misidentified as "The Road Less Traveled"). That is, people like to imagine that insignificant choices in their past alter their "fate" in meaningful ways. If only I'd made a different choice! Alas!
to go with my earlier post, i think people throughout time have created the idea of gods, ghosts, aliens, etc as a way of trying to make sense of our existance.
The truth is probably that a puddle of ooze happened to have all of the exact requirements to build us and when we die, that's it. game over. no purpose of life, no higher power or greater meaning. just born, live, die, the end.
it really makes us so much more insignificant when you think about it that way.
Your last sentence is the crux (no pun intended) of the issue. It feels overwhelming to think we simply cease to exist, and that the billions and billions of years that lead to our self-consciousness could have just been randomness. Enter religion, a facile explanation to assuage the fears that our consciousness may suddenly cease to exist. But I find it extraordinary that we were fortunate enough to happen to be born with the ability to think about our own thinking. It's a pretty amazing existence, if you can keep it.
Yeah, people take for granted and don't realize that we are on earth only because it is like the perfect time for us to be here. Sure that "time" is a big period to our small stupid brains, but it really isn't.
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Although I guess if you subscribe to the "anything that can happen will happen" philosophy of infinite universes maybe ghosts can be real
If you want to take it the other direction…rather than infinite outcomes, what do you think about fate? When considering it I think about it in a couple of ways:
1. Free will is an illusion. No matter how spontaneous you think you’re being, every move, every thought, every possible outcome was already pre-ordained
2. Thinking of fate as more of a “lane” or a “channel”. And that lane is going to lead you to several eventualities along the way. And there’s some wiggle room for the hundreds of millions of inconsequential things…if I scratch my nose now, if I shave tomorrow…all meaningless stuff bc it doesn’t take you out of your lane
I’m not sure I believe in fate, but I dunno maybe
Regarding Point No. 2, this exemplifies the oft-misunderstood meaning of Robert Frost's "The Road Not Taken" (which itself is oft-misidentified as "The Road Less Traveled"). That is, people like to imagine that insignificant choices in their past alter their "fate" in meaningful ways. If only I'd made a different choice! Alas!
to go with my earlier post, i think people throughout time have created the idea of gods, ghosts, aliens, etc as a way of trying to make sense of our existance.
The truth is probably that a puddle of ooze happened to have all of the exact requirements to build us and when we die, that's it. game over. no purpose of life, no higher power or greater meaning. just born, live, die, the end.
it really makes us so much more insignificant when you think about it that way.
Your last sentence is the crux (no pun intended) of the issue. It feels overwhelming to think we simply cease to exist, and that the billions and billions of years that lead to our self-consciousness could have just been randomness. Enter religion, a facile explanation to assuage the fears that our consciousness may suddenly cease to exist. But I find it extraordinary that we were fortunate enough to happen to be born with the ability to think about our own thinking. It's a pretty amazing existence, if you can keep it.
Yeah, people take for granted and don't realize that we are on earth only because it is like the perfect time for us to be here. Sure that "time" is a big period to our small stupid brains, but it really isn't.
And to add on top of that, we were born in America in the late 20th Century. Talk about a Power Combo--wow!
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Although I guess if you subscribe to the "anything that can happen will happen" philosophy of infinite universes maybe ghosts can be real
If you want to take it the other direction…rather than infinite outcomes, what do you think about fate? When considering it I think about it in a couple of ways:
1. Free will is an illusion. No matter how spontaneous you think you’re being, every move, every thought, every possible outcome was already pre-ordained
2. Thinking of fate as more of a “lane” or a “channel”. And that lane is going to lead you to several eventualities along the way. And there’s some wiggle room for the hundreds of millions of inconsequential things…if I scratch my nose now, if I shave tomorrow…all meaningless stuff bc it doesn’t take you out of your lane
I’m not sure I believe in fate, but I dunno maybe
Regarding Point No. 2, this exemplifies the oft-misunderstood meaning of Robert Frost's "The Road Not Taken" (which itself is oft-misidentified as "The Road Less Traveled"). That is, people like to imagine that insignificant choices in their past alter their "fate" in meaningful ways. If only I'd made a different choice! Alas!
to go with my earlier post, i think people throughout time have created the idea of gods, ghosts, aliens, etc as a way of trying to make sense of our existance.
The truth is probably that a puddle of ooze happened to have all of the exact requirements to build us and when we die, that's it. game over. no purpose of life, no higher power or greater meaning. just born, live, die, the end.
it really makes us so much more insignificant when you think about it that way.
Your last sentence is the crux (no pun intended) of the issue. It feels overwhelming to think we simply cease to exist, and that the billions and billions of years that lead to our self-consciousness could have just been randomness. Enter religion, a facile explanation to assuage the fears that our consciousness may suddenly cease to exist. But I find it extraordinary that we were fortunate enough to happen to be born with the ability to think about our own thinking. It's a pretty amazing existence, if you can keep it.
Yeah, people take for granted and don't realize that we are on earth only because it is like the perfect time for us to be here. Sure that "time" is a big period to our small stupid brains, but it really isn't.
And to add on top of that, we were born in America in the late 20th Century. Talk about a Power Combo--wow!
And despite this happy accident that is humanity - its a pity so many of us choose to spend this time arguing over whether or not human being should be allowed to exist simply because they are different than what fits comfortably in our world view. (AS THE CREATOR OF THIS THREAD I AM THE ARBITER OF WHAT IS PIT STUFF AND THIS POST RIGHT HERE CAME RIGHT UP TO THE LINE BUT DID NOT CROSS IT AND LET US NOT CROSS THAT LINE IN THIS THREAD B/C THERE'S ALREADY A THREAD IN THE PIT FOR THAT)
but i guess my point is when you think about all the things that had to happen just so in order for sentient life to exist its too bad we squabble over the absolute dumbest of all crap
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Agreed that we are all very lucky. Like, wow.
But at the same time, I think about all the former proto-humans and former versions of sentient life that weren't so lucky, and then I think, like, eff 'em, because they're already gone forever. And I say that with perfect clarity, because we just happened to win the lottery. Not our fault we won***, even though we didn't deserve it. Dems the berries.
edit: ***FOR NOW
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Although I guess if you subscribe to the "anything that can happen will happen" philosophy of infinite universes maybe ghosts can be real
If you want to take it the other direction…rather than infinite outcomes, what do you think about fate? When considering it I think about it in a couple of ways:
1. Free will is an illusion. No matter how spontaneous you think you’re being, every move, every thought, every possible outcome was already pre-ordained
2. Thinking of fate as more of a “lane” or a “channel”. And that lane is going to lead you to several eventualities along the way. And there’s some wiggle room for the hundreds of millions of inconsequential things…if I scratch my nose now, if I shave tomorrow…all meaningless stuff bc it doesn’t take you out of your lane
I’m not sure I believe in fate, but I dunno maybe
Regarding Point No. 2, this exemplifies the oft-misunderstood meaning of Robert Frost's "The Road Not Taken" (which itself is oft-misidentified as "The Road Less Traveled"). That is, people like to imagine that insignificant choices in their past alter their "fate" in meaningful ways. If only I'd made a different choice! Alas!
to go with my earlier post, i think people throughout time have created the idea of gods, ghosts, aliens, etc as a way of trying to make sense of our existance.
The truth is probably that a puddle of ooze happened to have all of the exact requirements to build us and when we die, that's it. game over. no purpose of life, no higher power or greater meaning. just born, live, die, the end.
it really makes us so much more insignificant when you think about it that way.
Your last sentence is the crux (no pun intended) of the issue. It feels overwhelming to think we simply cease to exist, and that the billions and billions of years that lead to our self-consciousness could have just been randomness. Enter religion, a facile explanation to assuage the fears that our consciousness may suddenly cease to exist. But I find it extraordinary that we were fortunate enough to happen to be born with the ability to think about our own thinking. It's a pretty amazing existence, if you can keep it.
Yeah, people take for granted and don't realize that we are on earth only because it is like the perfect time for us to be here. Sure that "time" is a big period to our small stupid brains, but it really isn't.
And to add on top of that, we were born in America in the late 20th Century. Talk about a Power Combo--wow!
And despite this happy accident that is humanity - its a pity so many of us choose to spend this time arguing over whether or not human being should be allowed to exist simply because they are different than what fits comfortably in our world view. (AS THE CREATOR OF THIS THREAD I AM THE ARBITER OF WHAT IS PIT STUFF AND THIS POST RIGHT HERE CAME RIGHT UP TO THE LINE BUT DID NOT CROSS IT AND LET US NOT CROSS THAT LINE IN THIS THREAD B/C THERE'S ALREADY A THREAD IN THE PIT FOR THAT)
but i guess my point is when you think about all the things that had to happen just so in order for sentient life to exist its too bad we squabble over the absolute dumbest of all crap
totally agree. it took me a long freaking time to realize this. my ultimate goal is to somehow make my kids figure this out way before I did.
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I hear you, man. I think I can say pretty confidently that the beliefs/values I held from like age 14-26, that I would want to kick that version of me’s ass. I too hope that my daughter will be not-as-much of a dumbass a little sooner in life.
When I think back about why it took me so long…I’m realizing that it wasn’t that I was close minded, it’s in part because the people who I would get into debates with were just really bad at arguing their point of view, or the things they thought were important (and thus the crux of their argument) were just really paltry.
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If you feel like you hate everyone: eat something
If you feel like everyone hates you: get some sleep
If you feel like you hate yourself: take a shower
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If you feel like you hate everyone: eat something
If you feel like everyone hates you: get some sleep
If you feel like you hate yourself: take a shower
interesting
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Do you ever wonder if the universe is like a cell of some greater being?
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Do you ever wonder if the universe is like a cell of some greater being?
This was debated in Animal House with no resolution.
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Do you ever wonder if the universe is like a cell of some greater being?
I remember debating this with my Physics professor(actually mainly just listening to his view) about how we/ our planet/ solar system/ universe could be massive or micro in size to everything that exists. He talked about how the earth could be like a cell in our body in an infinitely huge system. bucket, you are the first person to ever bring this idea up since then.
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I was under the influence and watching 2001: A Space Odyssey, when I posted that.
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I was under the influence and watching 2001: A Space Odyssey, when I posted that.
Any time I watch a Stanley Kubrick film I find myself thinking my deepest thoughts
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if you were given the opportunity...you can have the brain function to understand literally anything...quantum mechanics, time travel, music theory, etc. but you have to surrender the ability to express/demonstrate/convey that knowledge, would you take that deal? And when i say you are unable to convey or demonstrate i mean, for example, you know how a time machine works but you don't have the ability to build it yourself nor do you have the ability to explain to someone else how to build it or to draw up schematics on how to build it. And i'd say like okay yeah you can have some journal with all your equations and stuff but they are so high level that not even the most brilliant scientists or mathematicians can decipher it at all. Oh and for the sake of this hypothetical, possessing this knowledge will not in and of itself kill you, its not like that the 1996 John Travolta movie Phenomenon (SPOILER ALERT SORT OF EVEN THOUGH THAT MOVIE IS OVER A QUARTER CENTURY YEAR OLD SO EFF YOU)where like he suddenly is wicked smaht but its because he's got some kind of tumor that drastically shortens his life. No no, in this scenario you will continue to live out your life just as you would have before you knew exactly how everything in the universe works. I suppose maybe it could drive you mad with frustration that you like, understand how to do nuclear fusion and could provide free electricity for the entire world forever but you don't have the ability to build that machine or show someone else how to build it. That might drive me crazy.
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That hypothetical makes no sense. In that scenario knowing how to build a time machine is no different than not knowing.
What you’re describing (knowing how to do incredibly complicated things but unable to do them or explain to others) is an overconfident moron.
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Are you able to tell people that you have the knowledge and show them the schematics, even though no one will be able to decipher them? If so, I'd take the trade off. I'd write everything down and publish it, knowing that at some distant point in the future, I would be vindicated in the fullness of time, and my legacy would live on forever.
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metaphysical solipsism seems like it could be irl. sorry to all the rest of you.
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I do this like once a month when my in-laws ask me for help with their computer.
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I would take the the non-conveyable smart info deal. I would use it to guide me in placing bets and making investments.
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metaphysical solipsism seems like it could be irl. sorry to all the rest of you.
Elon says that if we can EVER invent the matrix, then it’s a near statistical certainty that we are in one now (or at least I am).
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Are you able to tell people that you have the knowledge and show them the schematics, even though no one will be able to decipher them? If so, I'd take the trade off. I'd write everything down and publish it, knowing that at some distant point in the future, I would be vindicated in the fullness of time, and my legacy would live on forever.
You have the ability to say the words "I know how a time machine works" but yeah, when it comes to explaining how to do it your words and your schematics will not even come close to describing it in any sort of meaningful way. Your best hope is that your journals and rolled up schematic drawings and discovered some many generations in the future for them to say oh wow spracne was really out there understandin that crap way back in 2023. But like, man, imagine that you have in your brain composed quite literally the greatest masterpiece of a symphony and homeboy that is a concert for 1.
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That hypothetical makes no sense. In that scenario knowing how to build a time machine is no different than not knowing.
What you’re describing (knowing how to do incredibly complicated things but unable to do them or explain to others) is an overconfident moron.
yes i mean it is kind of an existential question of what it means to "know" something. If you can't communicate that information then do you really "know" it? I would argue that one's ability to communicate an idea isn't essential to knowing something...more just like, an element of a greek tragedy. FWIW i have this kind of stuff happen to me maybe once a month when i have a dream and in that dream i tell you what buddy...i like, solved some serious problems. Or, more frequently, i came up with an Oscar worthy screenplay or literally the funniest joke that has ever been told. but of course i can't seem to remember it when i wake up. So like, I only know this stuff when i am in a state of being asleep, and i suck at communicating with awake people when i'm sleeping.
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So the problem is a lack of wokeness?
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That hypothetical makes no sense. In that scenario knowing how to build a time machine is no different than not knowing.
What you’re describing (knowing how to do incredibly complicated things but unable to do them or explain to others) is an overconfident moron.
yes i mean it is kind of an existential question of what it means to "know" something. If you can't communicate that information then do you really "know" it? I would argue that one's ability to communicate an idea isn't essential to knowing something...more just like, an element of a greek tragedy. FWIW i have this kind of stuff happen to me maybe once a month when i have a dream and in that dream i tell you what buddy...i like, solved some serious problems. Or, more frequently, i came up with an Oscar worthy screenplay or literally the funniest joke that has ever been told. but of course i can't seem to remember it when i wake up. So like, I only know this stuff when i am in a state of being asleep, and i suck at communicating with awake people when i'm sleeping.
Still, to be in a perpetual state that you know something but cannot explain it just seems like mental illness to me.
It’s like saying if given the choice would you be a bird but you can’t fly and actually you look and talk and think exactly like you do now.
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That hypothetical makes no sense. In that scenario knowing how to build a time machine is no different than not knowing.
What you’re describing (knowing how to do incredibly complicated things but unable to do them or explain to others) is an overconfident moron.
yes i mean it is kind of an existential question of what it means to "know" something. If you can't communicate that information then do you really "know" it? I would argue that one's ability to communicate an idea isn't essential to knowing something...more just like, an element of a greek tragedy. FWIW i have this kind of stuff happen to me maybe once a month when i have a dream and in that dream i tell you what buddy...i like, solved some serious problems. Or, more frequently, i came up with an Oscar worthy screenplay or literally the funniest joke that has ever been told. but of course i can't seem to remember it when i wake up. So like, I only know this stuff when i am in a state of being asleep, and i suck at communicating with awake people when i'm sleeping.
Still, to be in a perpetual state that you know something but cannot explain it just seems like mental illness to me.
It’s like saying if given the choice would you be a bird but you can’t fly and actually you look and talk and think exactly like you do now.
I feel like you're (intentionally?) misrepresenting his hypothetical.
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That hypothetical makes no sense. In that scenario knowing how to build a time machine is no different than not knowing.
What you’re describing (knowing how to do incredibly complicated things but unable to do them or explain to others) is an overconfident moron.
yes i mean it is kind of an existential question of what it means to "know" something. If you can't communicate that information then do you really "know" it? I would argue that one's ability to communicate an idea isn't essential to knowing something...more just like, an element of a greek tragedy. FWIW i have this kind of stuff happen to me maybe once a month when i have a dream and in that dream i tell you what buddy...i like, solved some serious problems. Or, more frequently, i came up with an Oscar worthy screenplay or literally the funniest joke that has ever been told. but of course i can't seem to remember it when i wake up. So like, I only know this stuff when i am in a state of being asleep, and i suck at communicating with awake people when i'm sleeping.
Still, to be in a perpetual state that you know something but cannot explain it just seems like mental illness to me.
It’s like saying if given the choice would you be a bird but you can’t fly and actually you look and talk and think exactly like you do now.
I feel like you're (intentionally?) misrepresenting his hypothetical.
In what way? I actually think the hypothetical is a pretty decent thought experiment for what it would be like to experience some mental illnesses.
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That hypothetical makes no sense. In that scenario knowing how to build a time machine is no different than not knowing.
What you’re describing (knowing how to do incredibly complicated things but unable to do them or explain to others) is an overconfident moron.
yes i mean it is kind of an existential question of what it means to "know" something. If you can't communicate that information then do you really "know" it? I would argue that one's ability to communicate an idea isn't essential to knowing something...more just like, an element of a greek tragedy. FWIW i have this kind of stuff happen to me maybe once a month when i have a dream and in that dream i tell you what buddy...i like, solved some serious problems. Or, more frequently, i came up with an Oscar worthy screenplay or literally the funniest joke that has ever been told. but of course i can't seem to remember it when i wake up. So like, I only know this stuff when i am in a state of being asleep, and i suck at communicating with awake people when i'm sleeping.
Still, to be in a perpetual state that you know something but cannot explain it just seems like mental illness to me.
It’s like saying if given the choice would you be a bird but you can’t fly and actually you look and talk and think exactly like you do now.
I feel like you're (intentionally?) misrepresenting his hypothetical.
In what way? I actually think the hypothetical is a pretty decent thought experiment for what it would be like to experience some mental illnesses.
It might come across as mental illness to others, but it's not mental illness. It's absolute clarity. And you have an opportunity to advance humanity in future generations, once your genius is understood.
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If you could accurately describe how a nuclear fission reactor works to Julius Caesar, say, you would probably be identified by Julius Caesar as having a mental illness
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The hypothetical is that you would never be understood. Even if such advances were ever made, the only thing you could get credit for is insisting they were possible.
The only thing I’m adding is my contention that there is no practical difference between falsely believing you know something and “actually” knowing something that you can never explain.
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The hypothetical is that you would never be understood. Even if such advances were ever made, the only thing you could get credit for is insisting they were possible.
The only thing I’m adding is my contention that there is no practical difference between falsely believing you know something and “actually” knowing something that you can never explain.
BAC clarified that future generations could possibly decipher your writings.
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Yeah maybe how people “decipher” all the things Nostradamus totally predicted.
The thing is that possibility is also within the realm of outcomes if you are a lunatic who writes down a lot of random crap.
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Yeah maybe how people “decipher” all the things Nostradamus totally predicted.
The thing is that possibility is also within the realm of outcomes if you are a lunatic who writes down a lot of random crap.
You're doing it again. BAC said you, hypothetically, have access to all the secrets of the Universe. This is not a Nostradamus situation.
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And the implications of the hypo are indistinguishable from being insane. Do not want.
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Insane might be harsh. Maybe schizophrenic or something.
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if you were given the opportunity...you can have the brain function to understand literally anything...quantum mechanics, time travel, music theory, etc. but you have to surrender the ability to express/demonstrate/convey that knowledge, would you take that deal? And when i say you are unable to convey or demonstrate i mean, for example, you know how a time machine works but you don't have the ability to build it yourself nor do you have the ability to explain to someone else how to build it or to draw up schematics on how to build it. And i'd say like okay yeah you can have some journal with all your equations and stuff but they are so high level that not even the most brilliant scientists or mathematicians can decipher it at all. Oh and for the sake of this hypothetical, possessing this knowledge will not in and of itself kill you, its not like that the 1996 John Travolta movie Phenomenon (SPOILER ALERT SORT OF EVEN THOUGH THAT MOVIE IS OVER A QUARTER CENTURY YEAR OLD SO EFF YOU)where like he suddenly is wicked smaht but its because he's got some kind of tumor that drastically shortens his life. No no, in this scenario you will continue to live out your life just as you would have before you knew exactly how everything in the universe works. I suppose maybe it could drive you mad with frustration that you like, understand how to do nuclear fusion and could provide free electricity for the entire world forever but you don't have the ability to build that machine or show someone else how to build it. That might drive me crazy.
I don't understand why you wouldn't be able to build the machine I'd you knew how to do it.
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If we started now, and our species started favoring humans with long, dexterous, toes, how many generations before we had feet comparable to hands in their utility.
@Pete last night on 60 minutes I learned all of the selective breeding we see that produces such variance in dog breeds has been done in the past 200 years. I think we can get the toe thing done in like 500 years.
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And the implications of the hypo are indistinguishable from being insane. Do not want.
Insane would imply being delusional. Think of it like if some new medical procedure is developed and you’re just like oh yeah I’ll definitely get that procedure or conversely you would realize oh wait this one is going to lead to all these other complications so I think I’ll pass
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Yeah maybe how people “decipher” all the things Nostradamus totally predicted.
The thing is that possibility is also within the realm of outcomes if you are a lunatic who writes down a lot of random crap.
You're doing it again. BAC said you, hypothetically, have access to all the secrets of the Universe. This is not a Nostradamus situation.
Yes exactly. You’re not confined to speaking in cryptic riddles, you just cannot explain any of these mysteries of the universe to anyone. Like trying to explain a smart phone to Julius Cesar like his brain probably could not even comprehend that sort of thing, it would take several hundreds of years before anyone would have any hope of being able to pick up what you’re puttin down.
The hard part is making sure you impress upon your contemporaries why they should preserve your journals and schematics. For that reason, I think I would eat the Mona Lisa.
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If we started now, and our species started favoring humans with long, dexterous, toes, how many generations before we had feet comparable to hands in their utility.
@Pete last night on 60 minutes I learned all of the selective breeding we see that produces such variance in dog breeds has been done in the past 200 years. I think we can get the toe thing done in like 500 years.
Wonderful news. This is how we take the next great step as a species.
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Question for the board, would you willingly have sexual intercourse with a partner who looked like a super model in every way, except they had long dexterous toes that could function like fingers?
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Question for the board, would you willingly have sexual intercourse with a partner who looked like a super model in every way, except they had long dexterous toes that could function like fingers?
Yeah. Why not?
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@star seed 7
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Gross toes? Would not bang
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And the implications of the hypo are indistinguishable from being insane. Do not want.
Insane would imply being delusional. Think of it like if some new medical procedure is developed and you’re just like oh yeah I’ll definitely get that procedure or conversely you would realize oh wait this one is going to lead to all these other complications so I think I’ll pass
Using the knowledge to benefit yourself would be demonstrating your knowledge of it.
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Yeah maybe how people “decipher” all the things Nostradamus totally predicted.
The thing is that possibility is also within the realm of outcomes if you are a lunatic who writes down a lot of random crap.
You're doing it again. BAC said you, hypothetically, have access to all the secrets of the Universe. This is not a Nostradamus situation.
Yes exactly. You’re not confined to speaking in cryptic riddles, you just cannot explain any of these mysteries of the universe to anyone. Like trying to explain a smart phone to Julius Cesar like his brain probably could not even comprehend that sort of thing, it would take several hundreds of years before anyone would have any hope of being able to pick up what you’re puttin down.
The hard part is making sure you impress upon your contemporaries why they should preserve your journals and schematics. For that reason, I think I would eat the Mona Lisa.
What would be the point of preserving your work if it would be of no use in the eventual discovery? And why would people care to try to find out if your super complex calculations could somehow get to the same result if they’ve already solved the problem?
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Yeah maybe how people “decipher” all the things Nostradamus totally predicted.
The thing is that possibility is also within the realm of outcomes if you are a lunatic who writes down a lot of random crap.
You're doing it again. BAC said you, hypothetically, have access to all the secrets of the Universe. This is not a Nostradamus situation.
Yes exactly. You’re not confined to speaking in cryptic riddles, you just cannot explain any of these mysteries of the universe to anyone. Like trying to explain a smart phone to Julius Cesar like his brain probably could not even comprehend that sort of thing, it would take several hundreds of years before anyone would have any hope of being able to pick up what you’re puttin down.
The hard part is making sure you impress upon your contemporaries why they should preserve your journals and schematics. For that reason, I think I would eat the Mona Lisa.
What would be the point of preserving your work if it would be of no use in the eventual discovery? And why would people care to try to find out if your super complex calculations could somehow get to the same result if they’ve already solved the problem?
The notebook/books would be indecipherable to current humans, not future humans. That's my understanding of the hypo.
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Yeah maybe how people “decipher” all the things Nostradamus totally predicted.
The thing is that possibility is also within the realm of outcomes if you are a lunatic who writes down a lot of random crap.
You're doing it again. BAC said you, hypothetically, have access to all the secrets of the Universe. This is not a Nostradamus situation.
Yes exactly. You’re not confined to speaking in cryptic riddles, you just cannot explain any of these mysteries of the universe to anyone. Like trying to explain a smart phone to Julius Cesar like his brain probably could not even comprehend that sort of thing, it would take several hundreds of years before anyone would have any hope of being able to pick up what you’re puttin down.
The hard part is making sure you impress upon your contemporaries why they should preserve your journals and schematics. For that reason, I think I would eat the Mona Lisa.
What would be the point of preserving your work if it would be of no use in the eventual discovery? And why would people care to try to find out if your super complex calculations could somehow get to the same result if they’ve already solved the problem?
The notebook/books would be indecipherable to current humans, not future humans. That's my understanding of the hypo.
Precisely. So way off in the distant future they’ll be like “huh…that dude that ate the Mona Lisa also knew how to design a fission reactor. Interesting fella”
I mean wouldn’t you lose your crap if they find some old sketchbook belonging to Leonardo da Vinci and he had sketched a perfect i phone, open to the Home Screen with a bunch of apps like whaaaaaaaaåaaaãAaat??
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If we started now, and our species started favoring humans with long, dexterous, toes, how many generations before we had feet comparable to hands in their utility.
@Pete last night on 60 minutes I learned all of the selective breeding we see that produces such variance in dog breeds has been done in the past 200 years. I think we can get the toe thing done in like 500 years.
Wonderful news. This is how we take the next great step as a species.
Dogs can get pregnant anywhere from 6 months to 2 years after birth, depending on the breed. Their pregnancies only last 60-75 days, and they can get pregnant every six months.
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If we started now, and our species started favoring humans with long, dexterous, toes, how many generations before we had feet comparable to hands in their utility.
@Pete last night on 60 minutes I learned all of the selective breeding we see that produces such variance in dog breeds has been done in the past 200 years. I think we can get the toe thing done in like 500 years.
Wonderful news. This is how we take the next great step as a species.
Dogs can get pregnant anywhere from 6 months to 2 years after birth, depending on the breed. Their pregnancies only last 60-75 days, and they can get pregnant every six months.
I think we should assume that CF3 did his due diligence, but his estimate does look like an uphill climb.
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Yeah maybe how people “decipher” all the things Nostradamus totally predicted.
The thing is that possibility is also within the realm of outcomes if you are a lunatic who writes down a lot of random crap.
You're doing it again. BAC said you, hypothetically, have access to all the secrets of the Universe. This is not a Nostradamus situation.
Yes exactly. You’re not confined to speaking in cryptic riddles, you just cannot explain any of these mysteries of the universe to anyone. Like trying to explain a smart phone to Julius Cesar like his brain probably could not even comprehend that sort of thing, it would take several hundreds of years before anyone would have any hope of being able to pick up what you’re puttin down.
The hard part is making sure you impress upon your contemporaries why they should preserve your journals and schematics. For that reason, I think I would eat the Mona Lisa.
What would be the point of preserving your work if it would be of no use in the eventual discovery? And why would people care to try to find out if your super complex calculations could somehow get to the same result if they’ve already solved the problem?
The notebook/books would be indecipherable to current humans, not future humans. That's my understanding of the hypo.
Precisely. So way off in the distant future they’ll be like “huh…that dude that ate the Mona Lisa also knew how to design a fission reactor. Interesting fella”
I mean wouldn’t you lose your crap if they find some old sketchbook belonging to Leonardo da Vinci and he had sketched a perfect i phone, open to the Home Screen with a bunch of apps like whaaaaaaaaåaaaãAaat??
So your hypo is not that you are unable to convey your knowledge. It is that a person alive today would not be able to understand it? I think you could find dozens of actual examples of people with ideas that were only executed when current technology caught up.
Why the heck would anyone choose not to have the capacity to positively impact the world for future generations?
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Yeah maybe how people “decipher” all the things Nostradamus totally predicted.
The thing is that possibility is also within the realm of outcomes if you are a lunatic who writes down a lot of random crap.
You're doing it again. BAC said you, hypothetically, have access to all the secrets of the Universe. This is not a Nostradamus situation.
Yes exactly. You’re not confined to speaking in cryptic riddles, you just cannot explain any of these mysteries of the universe to anyone. Like trying to explain a smart phone to Julius Cesar like his brain probably could not even comprehend that sort of thing, it would take several hundreds of years before anyone would have any hope of being able to pick up what you’re puttin down.
The hard part is making sure you impress upon your contemporaries why they should preserve your journals and schematics. For that reason, I think I would eat the Mona Lisa.
What would be the point of preserving your work if it would be of no use in the eventual discovery? And why would people care to try to find out if your super complex calculations could somehow get to the same result if they’ve already solved the problem?
The notebook/books would be indecipherable to current humans, not future humans. That's my understanding of the hypo.
Precisely. So way off in the distant future they’ll be like “huh…that dude that ate the Mona Lisa also knew how to design a fission reactor. Interesting fella”
I mean wouldn’t you lose your crap if they find some old sketchbook belonging to Leonardo da Vinci and he had sketched a perfect i phone, open to the Home Screen with a bunch of apps like whaaaaaaaaåaaaãAaat??
So your hypo is not that you are unable to convey your knowledge. It is that a person alive today would not be able to understand it? I think you could find dozens of actual examples of people with ideas that were only executed when current technology caught up.
Why the heck would anyone choose not to have the capacity to positively impact the world for future generations?
Selfishly, if I was told that I could hear the greatest song ever written, just an absolutely perfect composition that would bring me to my knees, but I could only hear it in my head…I would be interested. And I would ask Jack black to write a fitting tribute song.
The whole point of the hypo was just one of those monkey paw hypos…would you want to know the greatest work of art but you can’t describe it, to know the mysteries of the universe but you can’t explain it. There are going to be a million “ok but what about” bc it’s a hypo. The point is to ask yourself if you can reconcile having that perfect clarity but you can’t share it with any living person that is able to comprehend it. Would it drive you crazy with frustration? Or would you take comfort in knowing that you are the smartest person alive?
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But you switched the hypo to where you CAN describe it, just for the benefit of future generations rather than your own. You’ve got to be a real jerk to not take that deal solely because you won’t be alive when people appreciate your contribution.
FTR I think the original hypo was more interesting. But I think you changed the rules because you wanted to be more comfortable with saying yes to it.
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Dude claims to have traveled back in time to the Gettysburg address. Claims he is in photo
https://www.strangerdimensions.com/2017/01/30/andrew-basiagos-1863-gettysburg-time-travel-photo/
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Dude claims to have traveled back in time to the Gettysburg address. Claims he is in photo
https://www.strangerdimensions.com/2017/01/30/andrew-basiagos-1863-gettysburg-time-travel-photo/
You just solved BAC's riddle.
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Ok, look, you guys…here’s the thing. My strongest piece of evidence for why time travel is real…The Doors. Specifically, Jim Morrison. Like if you ever hear old interviews from Ray Manzarek he would describe their process of writing songs as sometimes Jim would just sorta sing a melody and then Ray and Robbie would try to reverse engineer and figure out what the melody is bc Jim couldn’t read music and couldn’t play any instruments. And he apparently wasn’t a very good singer, he had to work pretty hard at it.
So how does that happen? I think I’its pretty obvious that some day in the future a guy who is a big fan of The Doors is going to memorize as best he can all of their songs and then travel back in time and assume the identity of Jim Morrison (if that even was the name of the original lead singer) and then he’s just some guy trying to write all these doors songs that haven’t been written yet and he doesn’t know crap about music so he’s just kinda wingin it.
When you think about it, it really is the most likely scenario
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Dude claims to have traveled back in time to the Gettysburg address. Claims he is in photo
https://www.strangerdimensions.com/2017/01/30/andrew-basiagos-1863-gettysburg-time-travel-photo/
You just solved BAC's riddle.
:surprised:
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I wonder if - in the 1800s - when the United States was admitting new states into the union every couple of years…if private citizens who choose to fly the flag like in their yard would fly an older version like, in the same way you still see people wear a Joe Montana chiefs jersey
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I just assumed that flying flags was a fairly recent thing. Like since WW2.
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It's actually very popular in the south to display old flags
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It's actually very popular in the south to display old flags
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What if this reality we live in is a matrix, and we get pulled out of the matrix all the time and just don't know it? What if they pull us out and say something like "Looks like you haven't learned your lesson yet," and then we are like "man, I can do it, just put me back in where I left off, and I'll keep trying."
That could have JUST happened to us.
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Who is "they"?
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Who is "they"?
Well obviously I don't know and can only speculate. Probably it's the United Federation Planets' elaborate species conditioning scheme to prep us for full membership in the Federation. The higher score you get, the more social status and power you are entrusted with in the real world...the economic accoutrements, if you will.
So, we probably keep getting a rating that qualifies us to be a diamond miner in the real world Federation of Planets, and we are like "no way, Jose" and ask them to keep putting us back in until we get that score up. We are probably shooting for something like a planetary ambassadorship, or at least interplanetary travel and leisure reporter.
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Who is "they"?
Well obviously I don't know and can only speculate. Probably it's the United Federation Planets' elaborate species conditioning scheme to prep us for full membership in the Federation. The higher score you get, the more social status and power you are entrusted with in the real world...the economic accoutrements, if you will.
So, we probably keep getting a rating that qualifies us to be a diamond miner in the real world Federation of Planets, and we are like "no way, Jose" and ask them to keep putting us back in until we get that score up. We are probably shooting for something like a planetary ambassadorship, or at least interplanetary travel and leisure reporter.
Wait, does this mean we are close to developing warp speed technology?!
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Who is "they"?
Well obviously I don't know and can only speculate. Probably it's the United Federation Planets' elaborate species conditioning scheme to prep us for full membership in the Federation. The higher score you get, the more social status and power you are entrusted with in the real world...the economic accoutrements, if you will.
So, we probably keep getting a rating that qualifies us to be a diamond miner in the real world Federation of Planets, and we are like "no way, Jose" and ask them to keep putting us back in until we get that score up. We are probably shooting for something like a planetary ambassadorship, or at least interplanetary travel and leisure reporter.
Wait, does this mean we are close to developing warp speed technology?!
Technically it already exists, but we may or may not know about it in the real world yet. It's complicated.
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So when we go back to the matrix how would we know what we need to improve to get the right job? Do "they" not clear "our" mind on reinsertion( :Keke: )?
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So when we go back to the matrix how would we know what we need to improve to get the right job? Do "they" not clear "our" mind on reinsertion( :Keke: )?
I'm glad you asked. Our memories from our time outside the matrix are cleared upon insertion into the matrix. Conversely, when we are pulled out of the matrix, we retain our matrix memories and our real world memories are inserted into our brains somehow.
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So you're saying insertion is a very pleasant experience but the pull out method can be quite a bit more intense? Very interesting.
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Makes you appreciate why they named it that way.
Anyway, the idea that fascinates me is the idea that when armed with additional memories (i.e. those from the real world), we can self evaluate in a very unique way....we wouldn't be able to lie to ourselves, so to speak. And, we would honestly know whether we were capable of doing better....or whether we had maxed out our potential and were ready to just stay in the real world.
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WHAT IF WE ARE ALL HERE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER!?!?
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Of course, it might also mean that in the real world I am a greedy bastard.
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The model kinda loses steam at that point. That's why we workshop, people.
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sounds like Severance Pete
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sounds like Severance Pete
I was thinking Roy from Rick and Morty.
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sounds like Severance Pete
I was thinking Roy from Rick and Morty.
Yeah, both of those are similar. The part that seemed meaningful to me was to be able to have both sets of memories and experiences at one time…neither can hide from the other.
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Pete that sounds like a cross of reincarnation and the Good Place
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What are your guys thoughts regarding the ethical dilemma of the “trolley problem”? I’m sure you’ve all heard it (or some variation) but basically you’re on a trolley and you’re heading toward like 5 people on the track that aren’t going to be able to get out of the way. But before the trolley gets to them you have the opportunity to switch the track, and by diverting it you only kill one person instead of 5. So do you do nothing and more people die or do you actively choose to sacrifice 1 to save 5?
So far, my favorite response is that the trolley problem is really just a bullshit way of exploring or testing one’s morality/ethics bc unless you actually find yourself in that situation for real, you have no way of knowing how you will actually react. When it comes to humans having to choose between 2 choices (and both of them are bad, one is just less bad than the other), the fact is these hypotheticals are pretty meaningless bc when you’re in that situation you would have limited time to evaluate the full merits of those choices and not to mention would be dealing with incomplete information.
Kind of liberating, really. Like rather than trying to take a long hard look in the mirror and deal with the implications of what kind of person you are, it’s a pointless exercise and you shouldn’t waste your time agonizing over it.
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It kinda depends on the people. Is my enemy one of those 5? If so, I'm mowing all of them down. Sorry, other 4. What if the 1 is Albert Einstein? Too many variables ...
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I'm a contractualist so I have to run over the 1 and accept that I would be run over in a similar situation
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hypothetical situation: you are driving a car on a narrow road next to a cliff, and you turn a corner and all of a sudden there are 5 people standing directly in front of you on the road. assume you are going too fast stop in time.
i regret to inform all of you that i am fairly certain my instinct would be to slam on the brakes instead of drive off the cliff :(
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Sorry, 5 other people, I'm for self-preservation
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If you don't want to get run over, don't stand in the middle of the road.
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later, as you are serving your life sentence for reckless driving and five counts of involuntary manslaughter, you realize you should have just driven off the cliff :frown:
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the examples you guys are throwing out there does kind of lead to a somewhat horrifying idea...the decision making process for self-driving cars. If your self-driving car is self-driving along and some little toddler runs out into the street very suddenly and to swerve would mean to crash into another car...it seems like the car would probably choose the path of least resistance/damage to the car/person in the car and would thus make the choice to turn that toddler into a speed bump.
I dunno...as i try to imagine that kind of scenario i can't help but think I would absolutely choose to damage my car and someone else's car and possibly injure myself and/or the driver of the car next to me if it meant not plowing over a toddler.
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the examples you guys are throwing out there does kind of lead to a somewhat horrifying idea...the decision making process for self-driving cars. If your self-driving car is self-driving along and some little toddler runs out into the street very suddenly and to swerve would mean to crash into another car...it seems like the car would probably choose the path of least resistance/damage to the car/person in the car and would thus make the choice to turn that toddler into a speed bump.
I dunno...as i try to imagine that kind of scenario i can't help but think I would absolutely choose to damage my car and someone else's car and possibly injure myself and/or the driver of the car next to me if it meant not plowing over a toddler.
But what if that very same toddler is your Enemy? Food for thought.
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I think it would be bad pr if you program your cars to value property over human life
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the examples you guys are throwing out there does kind of lead to a somewhat horrifying idea...the decision making process for self-driving cars. If your self-driving car is self-driving along and some little toddler runs out into the street very suddenly and to swerve would mean to crash into another car...it seems like the car would probably choose the path of least resistance/damage to the car/person in the car and would thus make the choice to turn that toddler into a speed bump.
I dunno...as i try to imagine that kind of scenario i can't help but think I would absolutely choose to damage my car and someone else's car and possibly injure myself and/or the driver of the car next to me if it meant not plowing over a toddler.
But what if that very same toddler is your Enemy? Food for thought.
crap, good point.
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I think it would be bad pr if you program your cars to value property over human life
well luckily for all of us we do not live in a late-stage capitalistic society where time and again the people in charge have made it crystal clear that the priorities are to line their pockets, even if the cost is several human lives. Dodged that bullet!
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Maybe a compromise can be struck for providing an official enemies exception list?
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Individual KSU alum/athlete performance deep thought. Would you rather have a KSU grad:
1. POTUS
2. Oscar for best actor/director
3. Grammy for best album/artist
4 Win the Masters
5. Olympic gold medal in a really big event
6. NASCAR season champ
7. Reality tv mega star
8. MMA/WWE champ
others I am missing?
I would probably go 1, 4, 8
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the examples you guys are throwing out there does kind of lead to a somewhat horrifying idea...the decision making process for self-driving cars. If your self-driving car is self-driving along and some little toddler runs out into the street very suddenly and to swerve would mean to crash into another car...it seems like the car would probably choose the path of least resistance/damage to the car/person in the car and would thus make the choice to turn that toddler into a speed bump.
I dunno...as i try to imagine that kind of scenario i can't help but think I would absolutely choose to damage my car and someone else's car and possibly injure myself and/or the driver of the car next to me if it meant not plowing over a toddler.
But what if that very same toddler is your Enemy? Food for thought.
I think this toddler had it figured out
https://youtu.be/-N_RZJUAQY4
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My man ...
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Leave no witnesses is an interesting approach
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Leave no witnesses is an interesting approach
Mercifully leave only yourself with the guilt of knowing that you lived at the expense of others.
It’s noble…almost beautiful.
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Three people can keep a secret if two are dead.
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does the breath coming out of your nose smell the same as the breath coming out of your mouth?
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does the breath coming out of your nose smell the same as the breath coming out of your mouth?
No, different microbiome and you don't pack funyuns in your nose
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Should I own Crocs?
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Should I own Crocs?
Yeah
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Taking a few steps back, I really don’t get the trolley problem. If you’re standing next to the switch it seems pretty irrelevant whether it is in one place or another by default. Either way you’re deciding which way it goes.
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Taking a few steps back, I really don’t get the trolley problem. If you’re standing next to the switch it seems pretty irrelevant whether it is in one place or another by default. Either way you’re deciding which way it goes.
I think the question is whether you have a duty to act (or not act!)
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Should I own Crocs?
Yeah
I like the camo crocs, and think I might get some.
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Should I own Crocs?
Yeah
I like the camo crocs, and think I might get some.
I mean you're a boat owner now, do you have any idea how practical they will be?
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Pete seems like a sport mode kinda guy
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Taking a few steps back, I really don’t get the trolley problem. If you’re standing next to the switch it seems pretty irrelevant whether it is in one place or another by default. Either way you’re deciding which way it goes.
I think the question is whether you have a duty to act (or not act!)
Not acting in that scenario seems clearly to be the moral equivalent of acting. The decision isn’t whether to pull the lever, it is whether to cause it to route to one track or the other. It just so happens that one of those choices requires not pulling the lever.
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I really should get some crocs. Agree on the utility and sport mode, safety first when you are topside on my water craft.
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Chacos > Crocs
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Chacos > Crocs
Hmmmmm, lemme check
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(https://eddiebauer.scene7.com/is/image/EddieBauer/D0194003_938C1?$328V1$)
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I’m a heydudes guy
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Taking a few steps back, I really don’t get the trolley problem. If you’re standing next to the switch it seems pretty irrelevant whether it is in one place or another by default. Either way you’re deciding which way it goes.
I think the question is whether you have a duty to act (or not act!)
Not acting in that scenario seems clearly to be the moral equivalent of acting. The decision isn’t whether to pull the lever, it is whether to cause it to route to one track or the other. It just so happens that one of those choices requires not pulling the lever.
I think in the last few years we have been forced to reckon with so many atrocities that people are starting to understand that taking no action is still making a choice. But when this thought experiment was drawn up I think it was en vogue to think that taking no action was akin to having no agency in the outcome.
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Taking a few steps back, I really don’t get the trolley problem. If you’re standing next to the switch it seems pretty irrelevant whether it is in one place or another by default. Either way you’re deciding which way it goes.
I think the question is whether you have a duty to act (or not act!)
Not acting in that scenario seems clearly to be the moral equivalent of acting. The decision isn’t whether to pull the lever, it is whether to cause it to route to one track or the other. It just so happens that one of those choices requires not pulling the lever.
I think in the last few years we have been forced to reckon with so many atrocities that people are starting to understand that taking no action is still making a choice. But when this thought experiment was drawn up I think it was en vogue to think that taking no action was akin to having no agency in the outcome.
Yeah, I agree with cat. No action is action in this scenario. And once you accept that, it's a really stupid thought experiment, unless like Alec Baldwin is one of the 5, in which case, sorry other 4.
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what is the threshold between "knowing" something vs memorizing? Like for example, if I'm watching Jeopardy! and the answer is the president of the united states in the year 1904. Maybe with a little luck Mayim sneaks in the word "bull" or "moose" but I bet for most of us our brains would have to go back to memorizing the presidents in order...I know for myself personally I do not know all the presidents in order off the top of my head, but I do have a few milestones that I know for sure...like Lincoln being the president during the civil war, Wilson being the president during WWI, as an example. Whereas like someone who really KNOWS history knows oh yeah, 1904 that's when they started building the Panama Canal and that was like a whole thing for Teddy Roosevelt so yeah 1904, Teddy Roosevelt was the president. But like, if you ask me who was the president in 2011 I don't need to try to remember any order, I know it was Obama b/c I was an alive adult at the time so like, i didn't really have to memorize that, I feel like I just inherently know in my bones who the president was in 2011.
Or like, another example, my friend Carl like, really KNOWS music. Knows music theory. And I can just be like "hey Carl how do you play a D# with a suspended 7th?" and like, I just made that up because i'm pretty sure all those words i just said are actual things, and there are a few chords i've memorized like Dsus4 that's a pretty common one, but I say that to Carl and Carl is like okay yeah lets see so you need to cover these notes for the D# and then to suspend the 7th that's X fret on the Y string.
I'm sure i could come up w/ several more examples, but like, what would you consider the threshold between knowing vs memorizing? Or is this a distinction without a difference?
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There’s no difference between knowing and memorizing as long as your memory is correct, imo. A common definition of knowledge is “a true belief.” That doesn’t lead to a satisfying answer in every conceivable context, but if you stray very far outside of that then you’re inevitably going to end up with some version of “well maybe you just can’t ever REALLY KNOW anything,” which is also pretty unsatisfying.
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I don't really care what happens to my body after I die. Like at all really. Within reason anyway, i don't want to be just thrown in the street. If I was forced to choose, my answer would be whatever my kids want. If my kids make me say, i'd say cremate and spread me around some place cool. Some in my family are obsessed with this. They want very specific grave sites, stones, positions, etc. They also want me to choose like right now where I want to be and get frustrated when I say I don't want to be in a giant box in the ground with a big shrine above me. I think its ridiculous. They really get mad when I say things like, "what if all those people under there were wrong and are just trapped down there forever instead of being spread out and being part of a tree or something".
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I don't really care what happens to my body after I die. Like at all really. Within reason anyway, i don't want to be just thrown in the street. If I was forced to choose, my answer would be whatever my kids want. If my kids make me say, i'd say cremate and spread me around some place cool. Some in my family are obsessed with this. They want very specific grave sites, stones, positions, etc. They also want me to choose like right now where I want to be and get frustrated when I say I don't want to be in a giant box in the ground with a big shrine above me. I think its ridiculous. They really get mad when I say things like, "what if all those people under there were wrong and are just trapped down there forever instead of being spread out and being part of a tree or something".
I'm pretty modest about it, myself. I only expect a medium- to medium-large sized pyramid to be constructed in my honor.
But seriously, in the event that I die and any of you remember this, I just want to be cremated, and then do with my cremains (lol word) as you see fit. I will be dead and won't care one way or another.
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I don't really care what happens to my body after I die. Like at all really. Within reason anyway, i don't want to be just thrown in the street. If I was forced to choose, my answer would be whatever my kids want. If my kids make me say, i'd say cremate and spread me around some place cool. Some in my family are obsessed with this. They want very specific grave sites, stones, positions, etc. They also want me to choose like right now where I want to be and get frustrated when I say I don't want to be in a giant box in the ground with a big shrine above me. I think its ridiculous. They really get mad when I say things like, "what if all those people under there were wrong and are just trapped down there forever instead of being spread out and being part of a tree or something".
My mother's side of the family has pre-purchased plots and my mom reminded me the other day she has one at Sunset next to her parents and that her entire funeral was paid for and I was like okay, that is good I guess but dang
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I don't really care what happens to my body after I die. Like at all really. Within reason anyway, i don't want to be just thrown in the street. If I was forced to choose, my answer would be whatever my kids want. If my kids make me say, i'd say cremate and spread me around some place cool. Some in my family are obsessed with this. They want very specific grave sites, stones, positions, etc. They also want me to choose like right now where I want to be and get frustrated when I say I don't want to be in a giant box in the ground with a big shrine above me. I think its ridiculous. They really get mad when I say things like, "what if all those people under there were wrong and are just trapped down there forever instead of being spread out and being part of a tree or something".
My mother's side of the family has pre-purchased plots and my mom reminded me the other day she has one at Sunset next to her parents and that her entire funeral was paid for and I was like okay, that is good I guess but dang
Then donate your organs!!
Seriously, maybe let your residual cells and tissues have a purpose?
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I want one of those tree burials, or a compost burial.
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you don't want your cremains to be purified in the waters of Lake Minnetonka?
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you don't want your cremains to be purified in the waters of Lake Minnetonka?
That lake is too expensive for my remains.
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I don't really care what happens to my body after I die. Like at all really. Within reason anyway, i don't want to be just thrown in the street. If I was forced to choose, my answer would be whatever my kids want. If my kids make me say, i'd say cremate and spread me around some place cool. Some in my family are obsessed with this. They want very specific grave sites, stones, positions, etc. They also want me to choose like right now where I want to be and get frustrated when I say I don't want to be in a giant box in the ground with a big shrine above me. I think its ridiculous. They really get mad when I say things like, "what if all those people under there were wrong and are just trapped down there forever instead of being spread out and being part of a tree or something".
My mother's side of the family has pre-purchased plots and my mom reminded me the other day she has one at Sunset next to her parents and that her entire funeral was paid for and I was like okay, that is good I guess but dang
Then donate your organs!!
Seriously, maybe let your residual cells and tissues have a purpose?
I definitely have that on my DL
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I think Sid from Toy Story kind of a raw deal. Like this kid is just out here making art. How is he supposed to know the toys are sentient beings? They shouldn’t be
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I think Sid from Toy Story kind of a raw deal. Like this kid is just out here making art. How is he supposed to know the toys are sentient beings? They shouldn’t be
He destroyed his sister’s dolls you monster.
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I think Sid from Toy Story kind of a raw deal. Like this kid is just out here making art. How is he supposed to know the toys are sentient beings? They shouldn’t be
He destroyed his sister’s dolls you monster.
Kids got an absentee father (presumably). He’s had a rough go of it so far in life. He processes that frustration through the medium of sculpture. If I’m a monster then I’m the compassion monster
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Is there something about refrigerators that necessitates they be magnetic? Like in order to properly thermally decouple the inside from the outside a magnetic field was needed? Or do you think back in 1897 when Tómas Refrige invented his namesake appliance that he was like “ya know what? That’s some valuable real estate right there let’s magnetize this bad boy so we can hang up our kids shitty artwork”
Notes from OP:
I completely made up all of that stuff about the invention of the refrigerator I have no idea when it was invented or by whom
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Is there something about refrigerators that necessitates they be magnetic? Like in order to properly thermally decouple the inside from the outside a magnetic field was needed? Or do you think back in 1897 when Tómas Refrige invented his namesake appliance that he was like “ya know what? That’s some valuable real estate right there let’s magnetize this bad boy so we can hang up our kids shitty artwork”
Notes from OP:
I completely made up all of that stuff about the invention of the refrigerator I have no idea when it was invented or by whom
Remember those old fridges back in the day that closed with a latch on the outside? Turns out a bunch of kids were crawling inside them and suffocating, because you could only open them from the outside. Congress passed a law mandating that fridges be openable from the inside. All (nearly all?) modern fridges accomplish that task by utilizing magnetic force to keep fridges shut while still being able to open them from the inside.
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This is the reason I pay for gEpremium
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but who closed the latch on those kids? sounds like a murder
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but who closed the latch on those kids? sounds like a murder
Keep in mind this was before Roe v. Wade (NOT TRYING TO DO PIT STUFF HERE). But really, if you were to pull the door shut, it would latch on its own.
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but who closed the latch on those kids? sounds like a murder
Keep in mind this was before Roe v. Wade (NOT TRYING TO DO PIT STUFF HERE). But really, if you were to pull the door shut, it would latch on its own.
Boomers today: I can’t believe you would willingly subject your children to the dangers of vaccines.
Boomers back them: hmm did I leave my unsupervised three year old in the fridge this morning? No…I’m like 80% sure of it.
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Remember those old fridges back in the day that closed with a latch on the outside? Turns out a bunch of kids were crawling inside them and suffocating, because you could only open them from the outside.
maybe this is one of those things where people laugh at you if you say it, like thinking you can beat serena williams or land a plane when the pilot dies or whatever, but i could get out.
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You’d never fit in the first place you ogre
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Remember those old fridges back in the day that closed with a latch on the outside? Turns out a bunch of kids were crawling inside them and suffocating, because you could only open them from the outside.
maybe this is one of those things where people laugh at you if you say it, like thinking you can beat serena williams or land a plane when the pilot dies or whatever, but i could get out.
As a small child?
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i don't know / haven't memorized what a suspended 7th means
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Remember those old fridges back in the day that closed with a latch on the outside? Turns out a bunch of kids were crawling inside them and suffocating, because you could only open them from the outside.
maybe this is one of those things where people laugh at you if you say it, like thinking you can beat serena williams or land a plane when the pilot dies or whatever, but i could get out.
you'd have a better chance vs serena or landing a plane than getting out of an old timey refrigerator with a latched door
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That ruined the 4th Indiana Jones movie for me. No way that old man would be able to get out of that fridge with a latched door.
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Lies have no power unless they are believed; thus, lies are finite, being that false beliefs are temporal. On the other hand, truth is eternal; for even if truth is disbelieved, it still remains true. Truth having the virtue of being reality, will become evident; for the power of truth is that it forever remains true. It may be hidden, forgotten, or distorted, but it cannot be destroyed even as circumstances change, however, in time, truth will be made manifest.
The power of lies rests only in their potential as a perception of truth, and there are lies that can for a season imitate the truth and even affect reality if they are believed. However, in the end, lies cannot sustain themselves and only truth shall remain.
~Skarbutt
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Imagine being born ~1900 and living a “full” life of ~80-85 years.
Wild
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Imagine being born ~1900 and living a “full” life of ~80-85 years.
Wild
There are lot of good ones of that. To me it's wild that you could easily be born before the revolutionary war and live to see the civil war. To be born before the civil war and see WW2. Those are long lives but very possible. Just the changes in culture/tech/fashion/etc are as wild as the on you proposed.
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Imagine being born ~1900 and living a “full” life of ~80-85 years.
Wild
There are lot of good ones of that. To me it's wild that you could easily be born before the revolutionary war and live to see the civil war. To be born before the civil war and see WW2. Those are long lives but very possible. Just the changes in culture/tech/fashion/etc are as wild as the on you proposed.
You could have conceivably been born when horses were the primary means of personal transportation and lived to see e-commerce. Lots of mind-bottling ways to phrase the point.
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Imagine being born ~1900 and living a “full” life of ~80-85 years.
Wild
My grandma was born in 1911(I think, plus or minus) and died in 2008. It's wild that horses were still a widely used mode of transportation, and in her lifetime we got TV, color TV, the mass adaptation to cars, diesel trains, commercial air travel, invented the internet, the cell phone, the smart phone, and went to the rough ridin' moon.
That blows my mind.
I imagine ppl in her cohort woke up every day, read the paper, and was like, "What? No rough ridin' way!"
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Imagine being born ~1900 and living a “full” life of ~80-85 years.
Wild
My grandma was born in 1911(I think, plus or minus) and died in 2008. It's wild that horses were still a widely used mode of transportation, and in her lifetime we got TV, color TV, the mass adaptation to cars, diesel trains, commercial air travel, invented the internet, the cell phone, the smart phone, and went to the rough ridin' moon.
That blows my mind.
I imagine ppl in her cohort woke up every day, read the paper, and was like, "What? No rough ridin' way!"
https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1697023224473637033
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"My grandfather was born before the Constitution was ratified" is a pretty astounding statement a person can truthfully make (if true).
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"My grandfather was born before the Constitution was ratified" is a pretty astounding statement a person can truthfully make (if true).
For that guys it 100% is.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/grandson-10th-president-john-tyler-dies-180975992/
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Ruffin_Tyler
More on him
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I don't traffic in fake news :shakesfist:
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Mrs SF's great grandma died like 5 years ago at 103. We took pictures of her and her great great grandkids with an iPhone. I bet when she was my kids age, they didn't have phones that take pictures.
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And that grandson founded Aerosmith.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Ruffin_Tyler
More on him
pretty wild that we just let people have 15 kids
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Ruffin_Tyler
More on him
pretty wild that we just let people have 15 kids
more like maocat
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Imagine going back to like 1900 and giving a kid a taki
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I mean my kids are blown away when I explain you couldn't pause TV when I was a kid. It just kept going.
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I mean my kids are blown away when I explain you couldn't pause TV when I was a kid. It just kept going.
Pause, my kids ask me to fast forward every commercial.
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I'm stunned people still watch non-sports TV with commercials
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I mean my kids are blown away when I explain you couldn't pause TV when I was a kid. It just kept going.
last night I was driving my 7 yo daughter back from tumbling class and we were listening to Hits 1 on sirius/xm and she told me to skip the song and I told her I couldn't and it wasn't spotify and she was completely baffled and pissed off. "you have to listen to the whole song even if you don't like it?" and I said "no, you can change the station" and she told me to "change it to Taylor Swift Cruel Summer" and I again told her that's not how it worked and she just looked at me like I was a dinosaur from the dinosaur days. but then cruel summer came on like 2 songs later so we were good.
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I'm stunned people still watch non-sports TV with commercials
irl the craziest thing imaginable
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I'm stunned people still watch non-sports TV with commercials
irl the craziest thing imaginable
imagine watching a tnt or tbs style movie. edited for time and content AND commercials every 8 minutes
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I'm stunned people still watch non-sports TV with commercials
I will wait a year until it hits Netflix, Prime, etc so that I don't have to. eff that.
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I'm stunned people still watch non-sports TV with commercials
I will wait a year until it hits Netflix, Prime, etc so that I don't have to. eff that.
Weekly release premium streaming is such a sweet spot. No commercials, but you still get that sweet anticipation waiting for next week’s episode.
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I'm stunned people still watch non-sports TV with commercials
I will wait a year until it hits Netflix, Prime, etc so that I don't have to. eff that.
Weekly release premium streaming is such a sweet spot. No commercials, but you still get that sweet anticipation waiting for next week’s episode.
100
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I mean my kids are blown away when I explain you couldn't pause TV when I was a kid. It just kept going.
last night I was driving my 7 yo daughter back from tumbling class and we were listening to Hits 1 on sirius/xm and she told me to skip the song and I told her I couldn't and it wasn't spotify and she was completely baffled and pissed off. "you have to listen to the whole song even if you don't like it?" and I said "no, you can change the station" and she told me to "change it to Taylor Swift Cruel Summer" and I again told her that's not how it worked and she just looked at me like I was a dinosaur from the dinosaur days. but then cruel summer came on like 2 songs later so we were good.
All that is up there with the save icon being a floppy disc, phone icon being a headset, etc.
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Why TF don't you have Spotify premium sd? I'm seriously contemplating calling child protection services.
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I'm stunned people still watch non-sports TV with commercials
irl the craziest thing imaginable
imagine watching a tnt or tbs style movie. edited for time and content AND commercials every 8 minutes
I still find that style comforting. My favorite is old recorded stuff with commercials from the early 90s.
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Why TF don't you have Spotify premium sd? I'm seriously contemplating calling child protection services.
I do, which is why my daughter knew it was an option dummy.
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Why TF don't you have Spotify premium sd? I'm seriously contemplating calling child protection services.
I do, which is why my daughter knew it was an option dummy.
My god you have Spotify and could have let her listen to it in the car and just chose to make her listen to the radio?!
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Why TF don't you have Spotify premium sd? I'm seriously contemplating calling child protection services.
I do, which is why my daughter knew it was an option dummy.
My god you have Spotify and could have let her listen to it in the car and just chose to make her listen to the radio?!
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Why TF don't you have Spotify premium sd? I'm seriously contemplating calling child protection services.
I do, which is why my daughter knew it was an option dummy.
My god you have Spotify and could have let her listen to it in the car and just chose to make her listen to the radio?!
That’s right
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Ruffin_Tyler
More on him
pretty wild that we just let people have 15 kids
never again.
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Also wild that both Dad and Grandpa married girls like thirty years younger than them after wife number 1 died.
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Also wild that both Dad and Grandpa married girls like thirty years younger than them after wife number 1 died.
That's the real thing out of all of it IYAM. Like the odds of that happening not once, but twice, and then have kids live that long is kinda insane
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The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao.
The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The Tao is both named and nameless.
As nameless it is the origin of all things. As named it is the mother of 10,000 things.
Ever desireless one can see the mystery. Ever desiring one can only see the manifestation.
The mystery itself is the doorway to all understanding.
~Laozi Tao te Ching, Ch 1. (Wayne Dyer Translation)
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Under Heaven all can see beauty as beauty, only because there is ugliness.
All can know good as good, only because there is evil.
Being and non-being produce each other.
The difficult is born in the easy. Long is defined by short; the high by the low.
Before and after go along with each other.
So, the sage lives openly with apparent duality and paradoxical unity.
The sage can act without effort, and teach without words.
Nurturing things without possessing them, he works but not for reward. He competes, but not for result.
When the work is done, it is forgotten. This is why it lasts forever.
~Laozi, Tao te Ching, Ch. 2 (Wayne Dyer Translation)
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bombas socks…pretty expensive. worth it?
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bombas socks…pretty expensive. worth it?
in my opin, no.
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Putting a value on status will create contentiousness.
If you overvalue possessions, people begin to steal.
By not displaying what is desirable, you will cause the people’s hearts to remain undisturbed.
The sage governs by emptying minds and hearts, by weakening ambitions and strengthening bones.
Practice not doing … when action is pure and selfless, everything settled into its own peaceful place.
~Laozi, Tao te Ching, Ch. 3 (Wayne Dyer Translation)
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The Tao is empty, but inexhaustible, bottomless, the ancestor of it all.
Within it, the sharp edges become smooth; the twisted knots loosen; the sun is softened by a cloud; the dust settles into place.
It is hidden, but always present.
I do not know who (or what) gave birth to it.
It seems to be the common ancestor to all, the father of (all) things.
Laozi, Tao te Ching, Ch. 4 (Wayne Dyer Translation)
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why does chipotle hot sauce have so many seeds in it?
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Are you sure you want to crack open that nut?
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for the Ass, Gas, or Grass question Ass is the most economical choice for a frugal traveler.
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:D
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After 2008 (like most people) I switched to giving ass instead of gas.
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Heaven and earth are impartial; they see the 10,000 things as straw dogs*.
The sage is not sentimental; he treats all his people as straw dogs.
The sage is like Heaven and earth; to him none are especially dear, nor is there anyone he disfavors.
He gives and gives without condition, offering his treasures to everyone.
Between Heaven and earth is a space like a bellows; empty and inexhaustible, the more it is used, the more it produces.
Hold onto the center.
Man was meant to sit quietly and find the truth within.
Laozi, Tao te Ching, Ch. 5 (Wayne Dyer Translation).
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for the Ass, Gas, or Grass question Ass is the most economical choice for a frugal traveler.
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JHC, SD you still got it! :lol:
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Do you ever think..."Man, I wonder what :emawkid: is like right now?" I always assumed he is taking the Charles Melton career path.
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Do you ever think..."Man, I wonder what :emawkid: is like right now?" I always assumed he is taking the Charles Melton career path.
that is something I'd like to know
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can you imagine being in college during the white claw/truly revolution? kids these days have it so good
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can you imagine being in college during the white claw/truly revolution? kids these days have it so good
It was tough being post-zima but pre-white claw. The dark ages for sure.
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can you imagine being in college during the white claw/truly revolution? kids these days have it so good
It was tough being post-zima but pre-white claw. The dark ages for sure.
But who was Four Loko (OG version)???
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Manhattan was a Keystone/Keystone Light test market and cheap AF way back in my time there.
Also, Four Lokos night got me forcefully removed from Last Chance.
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can you imagine being in college during the white claw/truly revolution? kids these days have it so good
It was tough being post-zima but pre-white claw. The dark ages for sure.
But who was Four Loko (OG version)???
I ws there during Four Loko OG time. I actually never really had, but saw plenty who did and it was wild
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Manhattan was a Keystone/Keystone Light test market and cheap AF way back in my time there.
Also, Four Lokos night got me forcefully removed from Last Chance.
$9.99 a case, $45 a keg iirc
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Manhattan was a Keystone/Keystone Light test market and cheap AF way back in my time there.
Also, Four Lokos night got me forcefully removed from Last Chance.
$9.99 a case, $45 a keg iirc
Good times.
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Manhattan was a Keystone/Keystone Light test market and cheap AF way back in my time there.
Also, Four Lokos night got me forcefully removed from Last Chance.
$9.99 a case, $45 a keg iirc
Good times.
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30 pack of stones for like $11.99 (??)
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I had friends who would chug a bottle of MD 20/20 before heading out the bars at night. They would sign & date the bottle and then place them on a shelf in the living room/kitchen. It was a sight to behold.
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I had friends who would chug a bottle of MD 20/20 before heading out the bars at night. They would sign & date the bottle and then place them on a shelf in the living room/kitchen. It was a sight to behold.
I had to Google what MD 20/20 is. Never heard of it.
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mogen david was what my hometown lutheran church used for communion wine. one time roughly 9 year old sd and his bud got what I assume was pretty juiced up on like 25 leftover glasses of THE IRL BLOOD OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST
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mogen david was what my hometown lutheran church used for communion wine. one time roughly 9 year old sd and his bud got what I assume was pretty juiced up on like 25 leftover glasses of THE IRL BLOOD OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST
(https://www.marketviewliquor.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/MOGANDAVIDCON3L.jpg)
Lutherans do not believe in transubstantiation :nono:
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imagine how blackout jesus would have been with mogen pumping through his veins 24/7/365
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I had friends who would chug a bottle of MD 20/20 before heading out the bars at night. They would sign & date the bottle and then place them on a shelf in the living room/kitchen. It was a sight to behold.
I had to Google what MD 20/20 is. Never heard of it.
Probably an age thing.
We also used to make a concoction at our parties that we called "The Midnight Train to Moscow". It was equal parts Night Train wine and the cheapest vodka you can find. Mix in a large jug and add grape Koolaid packets and lots of sugar. It was best to mix it up and let it "cook" for half a day before consuming. There were several nights we time travelled while enjoying this beverage.
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I had friends who would chug a bottle of MD 20/20 before heading out the bars at night. They would sign & date the bottle and then place them on a shelf in the living room/kitchen. It was a sight to behold.
I had to Google what MD 20/20 is. Never heard of it.
Probably an age thing.
We also used to make a concoction at our parties that we called "The Midnight Train to Moscow". It was equal parts Night Train wine and the cheapest vodka you can find. Mix in a large jug and add grape Koolaid packets and lots of sugar. It was best to mix it up and let it "cook" for half a day before consuming. There were several nights we time travelled while enjoying this beverage.
I remember something similar but more like Carlo Rossi wine (also the wine we used at my church) and everclear, with some chopped-up fruit in it. It was called Jungle Juice.
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I had friends who would chug a bottle of MD 20/20 before heading out the bars at night. They would sign & date the bottle and then place them on a shelf in the living room/kitchen. It was a sight to behold.
I had to Google what MD 20/20 is. Never heard of it.
Probably an age thing.
We also used to make a concoction at our parties that we called "The Midnight Train to Moscow". It was equal parts Night Train wine and the cheapest vodka you can find. Mix in a large jug and add grape Koolaid packets and lots of sugar. It was best to mix it up and let it "cook" for half a day before consuming. There were several nights we time travelled while enjoying this beverage.
when i've said the name of that brand out loud i'm like 99% sure i've only called it Mad Dog Twenty Twizzle. Like from the very first time until this very day. twenny twizzle
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Soup. What a concept. You're telling me you hid a little bit of food in a bunch of water? Don't worry, I'll find it ...
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Combat juice had a hand in the thunder dan matter.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8QAK8gXAAARHig?format=jpg&name=small)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8QAK8gXAAARHig?format=jpg&name=small)
:lol: :lol:
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One of those shower thoughts that rocked me to my core was the observation that in most languages, the word “night” is the letter n + the word for the number eight.
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Consider the following sentence:
“I never said we should kill him”
Depending on which word you put the emphasis on that sentence has 7 very different meanings. (Will not be doing the mocat math for putting the emphasis on multiple words)
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Ahh, the intolerable wrestle with words and meanings.
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if bottomless pits were a real thing, what would be the most common cause of death for people that fell into them?
my first thought was boredom-induced suicide...like after several hours of falling you're just like okay well the only thing that can happen is i die its just a matter of when, so i'm going to see if i can careen off one of these sidewalls really hard until i die from it
and then my next thought was...well, probably exhaustion? Like i can't imagine its possible to fall asleep while falling at near terminal velocity, so i would imagine you are just awake for several days before your body is just too exhausted from lack of sleep and you die from it.
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if bottomless pits were a real thing, what would be the most common cause of death for people that fell into them?
my first thought was boredom-induced suicide...like after several hours of falling you're just like okay well the only thing that can happen is i die its just a matter of when, so i'm going to see if i can careen off one of these sidewalls really hard until i die from it
and then my next thought was...well, probably exhaustion? Like i can't imagine its possible to fall asleep while falling at near terminal velocity, so i would imagine you are just awake for several days before your body is just too exhausted from lack of sleep and you die from it.
Dehydration?
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One of those shower thoughts that rocked me to my core was the observation that in most languages, the word “night” is the letter n + the word for the number eight.
only latin languages = most languages?
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One of those shower thoughts that rocked me to my core was the observation that in most languages, the word “night” is the letter n + the word for the number eight.
only latin languages = most languages?
wut
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One of those shower thoughts that rocked me to my core was the observation that in most languages, the word “night” is the letter n + the word for the number eight.
only latin languages = most languages?
wut
i can tell you that night in chinese is not n + the word for eight
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One of those shower thoughts that rocked me to my core was the observation that in most languages, the word “night” is the letter n + the word for the number eight.
only latin languages = most languages?
It's kind of correct, if you squint at look at it. I'm also a language scholar, though, and I'm an examiner of ancient languages. You can trace almost anything back to Sanskrit, for example.
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Every single person who confuses correlation with causation ends up dying
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Every single person who confuses correlation with causation ends up dying
Saw that one on Twitter the other day and made me chuckle
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When you get old, what type of old man will you be in the morning?
McDonalds?
Starbucks?
Donut Shop?
Sale barn?
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the inflection point at which you become old is when your mustache looks handsome instead of gross
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the inflection point at which you become old is when your mustache looks handsome instead of gross
Was Kevin Costner "old" in Dances With Wolves?
Was Kurt Russel "old" in Tombstone? (This could really apply to all those dudes in Tombstone not named Sam Elliott)
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the inflection point at which you become old is when your mustache looks handsome instead of gross
Was Kevin Costner "old" in Dances With Wolves?
Was Kurt Russel "old" in Tombstone? (This could really apply to all those dudes in Tombstone not named Sam Elliott)
Were they old? No. But were they old souls? Absolutely
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the inflection point at which you become old is when your mustache looks handsome instead of gross
Was Kevin Costner "old" in Dances With Wolves?
Was Kurt Russel "old" in Tombstone? (This could really apply to all those dudes in Tombstone not named Sam Elliott)
Were they old? No. But were they old souls? Absolutely
No disrespect mocat, but your "deep thought" is rough ridin' stupid.
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Looks handsome in a mustache
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It might be stupid aye
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if bottomless pits were a real thing, what would be the most common cause of death for people that fell into them?
my first thought was boredom-induced suicide...like after several hours of falling you're just like okay well the only thing that can happen is i die its just a matter of when, so i'm going to see if i can careen off one of these sidewalls really hard until i die from it
and then my next thought was...well, probably exhaustion? Like i can't imagine its possible to fall asleep while falling at near terminal velocity, so i would imagine you are just awake for several days before your body is just too exhausted from lack of sleep and you die from it.
Dehydration?
Has to be this. The human body can live for almost 3 weeks with no food, but only 3 days with no water.
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"Every time Jesus turned to hand out a piece of bread and fish, I just put a little bit more in the basket. It was hilarious, you should have seen it. Almost as fun as that time we 'ran out of wine' LOL."
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There are more hydrogen atoms in a single molecule of water than there are stars in our entire solar system
Put that in your brain pipe and smoke it like a marijuana cigarette
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Why are toasters made with a level 6 setting? It could only serve to incinerate your food. Also, the four set of toasts that you toast on level 3 will be twice as toasted as the first set of toasts.
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Why are toasters made with a level 6 setting? It could only serve to incinerate your food. Also, the four set of toasts that you toast on level 3 will be twice as toasted as the first set of toasts.
level 6 was developed exclusively for POP TARTS, but be careful!
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There are more hydrogen atoms in a single molecule of water than there are stars in our entire solar system
Put that in your brain pipe and smoke it like a marijuana cigarette
:Wha:
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There are more hydrogen atoms in a single molecule of water than there are stars in our entire solar system
Put that in your brain pipe and smoke it like a marijuana cigarette
:Wha:
I remember reading this and thinking, "BAC, you rascal. You almost got me. Well, he almost got me, again."
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Why are toasters made with a level 6 setting? It could only serve to incinerate your food. Also, the four set of toasts that you toast on level 3 will be twice as toasted as the first set of toasts.
level 6 was developed exclusively for POP TARTS, but be careful!
The pop tarts package explicitly warns you not to try this sort of thing. It will turn the filling into scorching magma.
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Why are toasters made with a level 6 setting? It could only serve to incinerate your food. Also, the four set of toasts that you toast on level 3 will be twice as toasted as the first set of toasts.
level 6 was developed exclusively for POP TARTS, but be careful!
The pop tarts package explicitly warns you not to try this sort of thing. It will turn the filling into scorching magma.
if you are afraid to die...can you ever truly live?
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There are more hydrogen atoms in a single molecule of water than there are stars in our entire solar system
Put that in your brain pipe and smoke it like a marijuana cigarette
:Wha:
I remember reading this and thinking, "BAC, you rascal. You almost got me. Well, he almost got me, again."
I definitely "not so fast my friend" twice on it as well.
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There are more hydrogen atoms in a single molecule of water than there are stars in our entire solar system
Put that in your brain pipe and smoke it like a marijuana cigarette
:Wha:
I remember reading this and thinking, "BAC, you rascal. You almost got me. Well, he almost got me, again."
I definitely "not so fast my friend" twice on it as well.
i have been known to be a bit of a trickster, from time to time.
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ok this is borderline pit fodder, so i'm going to ask that we stay focused for this one:
I saw a Xcreet or w/e the other day that said something to the effect of "when it comes to healthcare...you either believe it is a human right, or you believe it is a privilege and if you get sick and can't afford to pay then you deserve to die, and there's no in between."
Now, if you want to discuss the merits of universal healthcare vs privatized healthcare there are probably a bunch of threads in the pit for that. What i'm thinking about is the "its either this or its that" aspect of that statement. I am not usually wont to deal in absolutes, and especially with a topic as complicated as healthcare it seems crazy that it could really boil down to either this or that...but i am having a hard time coming up with a third, secret thing it could be.
Is it fair to say when it comes to healthcare you either think its a human right, or you think its a privilege that not everybody deserves? I dunno, it really does kinda seem like its one or the other. but i am trying to keep an open mind so if there is a gray area in there please let me know.
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ok this is borderline pit fodder, so i'm going to ask that we stay focused for this one:
I saw a Xcreet or w/e the other day that said something to the effect of "when it comes to healthcare...you either believe it is a human right, or you believe it is a privilege and if you get sick and can't afford to pay then you deserve to die, and there's no in between."
Now, if you want to discuss the merits of universal healthcare vs privatized healthcare there are probably a bunch of threads in the pit for that. What i'm thinking about is the "its either this or its that" aspect of that statement. I am not usually wont to deal in absolutes, and especially with a topic as complicated as healthcare it seems crazy that it could really boil down to either this or that...but i am having a hard time coming up with a third, secret thing it could be.
Is it fair to say when it comes to healthcare you either think its a human right, or you think its a privilege that not everybody deserves? I dunno, it really does kinda seem like its one or the other. but i am trying to keep an open mind so if there is a gray area in there please let me know.
Here is a third thing:
If we went single payer, and added regulation, we would reduce costs. That should appeal to everyone.
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There are very few psychopaths that believe emergency care should be means based so really it's just a spectrum of where you feel medical care should be shifted to what the person can afford (or what the cost/benefit ratio to society is in publicly funded Healthcare).
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When it comes right down to it, might actually does make right … or rights. This includes healthcare rights.
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When it comes right down to it, might actually does make right … or rights. This includes healthcare rights.
For the vast majority of our species’ time on this planet that has been the case.
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When it comes right down to it, might actually does make right … or rights. This includes healthcare rights.
For the vast majority of our species’ time on this planet that has been the case.
The whole time. If you’re mighty enough you have the right to do anything you want. But the mighty can be benevolent and grant rights to those less mighty.
In the natural/material world we don’t have a right to healthcare or anything, unless someone or some group is mighty annd benevolent enough to enforce said right on our behalf.
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There are very few psychopaths that believe emergency care should be means based so really it's just a spectrum of where you feel medical care should be shifted to what the person can afford (or what the cost/benefit ratio to society is in publicly funded Healthcare).
How do you quantify what counts as emergency care? How big does that mole have to get before you can have it checked to see if it's malignant? If a rusty nail goes through your foot can you just bring the nail with you to the ER to prove this could be fatal?
Also for the sake of this thought experiment I'm operating within the boundaries of our current system, or how our system could realistically be in the not so distant future
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When it comes right down to it, might actually does make right … or rights. This includes healthcare rights.
For the vast majority of our species’ time on this planet that has been the case.
The whole time. If you’re mighty enough you have the right to do anything you want. But the mighty can be benevolent and grant rights to those less mighty.
In the natural/material world we don’t have a right to healthcare or anything, unless someone or some group is mighty annd benevolent enough to enforce said right on our behalf.
You are not wrong.
I think they probably meant “right” in the ethical or moral sense, and perhaps not in the legals sense. But, if you are an ethical relativist then you are still right (wink wink, nudge nudge)!
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Ethically no one has a right to anything, but also ethically everyone should bestow things like food, water, shelter, healthcare, love kindness etc. to one another.
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Ethically no one has a right to anything, but also ethically everyone should bestow things like food, water, shelter, healthcare, love kindness etc. to one another.
Hard to object to that.
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I suppose I can't really argue with any of that, I suppose I was just setting aside the Machiavellian aspects and accepting the framework of "if you are sick, there is an entire infrastructure in place which makes it possible for you to get better"
So in so much as you can accept the idea of healthcare being a thing that we have and need as a society/civilization...and then answering the question of how should this resource be allocated to The People.
But nic to your point regarding the benevolent Mighty, I don't think Healthcare is a resource that is possible for any one entity to hoard. I mean even looking at the world as it is today... For the most part the world seems to have agreed to operate under capitalism -- which would tend to treat healthcare as a luxury item only available to those with the means to pay for it -- there are many sovereign Nations where socialized medicine is the system in place and is unlikely to be dismantled anytime soon
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Those with the means to distribute and administer health care products and procedures could easily withhold it any time and any way they chose, unless someone mightier forced them to provide it.
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Ethically no one has a right to anything, but also ethically everyone should bestow things like food, water, shelter, healthcare, love kindness etc. to one another.
Absolutely, assuming a baseline that is realistically below a first world country, let alone the richest country on earth. Realistically, healthy people are good for society. We live in a world where it’s not too uncommon to hear about lost money due to storms, road damage or closures, and other things that disrupt the lives of those who produce. Loss of efficiency equals loss of opportunity, revenue, profits, growth, etc. unhealthy people are less predictable, as far as availability, less efficient due to that loss of predictive work, and therefore less productive than they could be. Our baseline is so high that we make the oceans safe for commerce for the whole world. Our baseline is so high that we give other nations money to defend themselves. Our baseline is so high that a very large amount of the bleeding edge of the world’s innovation comes from here.
With a baseline like that, and given the actuality of what an unhealthy population means to a country, I disagree with the idea that no one has a right to health. We are all cogs in this wonderful machine. We are fools to not treat health as a right and upmost priority . It is short sighted, greedy, and cruel. With the ability to regulate the system we are continually kicking ourselves in the balls so that something around a few thousand people can get richer at the cost of individuals and the nation.
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There are very few psychopaths that believe emergency care should be means based so really it's just a spectrum of where you feel medical care should be shifted to what the person can afford (or what the cost/benefit ratio to society is in publicly funded Healthcare).
Bingo. And this is really true of pretty much all policy. The question isn’t what services people deserve, it is at what point the government should step in to keep people from dying.
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Ethically no one has a right to anything, but also ethically everyone should bestow things like food, water, shelter, healthcare, love kindness etc. to one another.
Absolutely, assuming a baseline that is realistically below a first world country, let alone the richest country on earth. Realistically, healthy people are good for society. We live in a world where it’s not too uncommon to hear about lost money due to storms, road damage or closures, and other things that disrupt the lives of those who produce. Loss of efficiency equals loss of opportunity, revenue, profits, growth, etc. unhealthy people are less predictable, as far as availability, less efficient due to that loss of predictive work, and therefore less productive than they could be. Our baseline is so high that we make the oceans safe for commerce for the whole world. Our baseline is so high that we give other nations money to defend themselves. Our baseline is so high that a very large amount of the bleeding edge of the world’s innovation comes from here.
With a baseline like that, and given the actuality of what an unhealthy population means to a country, I disagree with the idea that no one has a right to health. We are all cogs in this wonderful machine. We are fools to not treat health as a right and upmost priority . It is short sighted, greedy, and cruel. With the ability to regulate the system we are continually kicking ourselves in the balls so that something around a few thousand people can get richer at the cost of individuals and the nation.
Well said, friend.
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Ethically no one has a right to anything, but also ethically everyone should bestow things like food, water, shelter, healthcare, love kindness etc. to one another.
Absolutely, assuming a baseline that is realistically below a first world country, let alone the richest country on earth. Realistically, healthy people are good for society. We live in a world where it’s not too uncommon to hear about lost money due to storms, road damage or closures, and other things that disrupt the lives of those who produce. Loss of efficiency equals loss of opportunity, revenue, profits, growth, etc. unhealthy people are less predictable, as far as availability, less efficient due to that loss of predictive work, and therefore less productive than they could be. Our baseline is so high that we make the oceans safe for commerce for the whole world. Our baseline is so high that we give other nations money to defend themselves. Our baseline is so high that a very large amount of the bleeding edge of the world’s innovation comes from here.
With a baseline like that, and given the actuality of what an unhealthy population means to a country, I disagree with the idea that no one has a right to health. We are all cogs in this wonderful machine. We are fools to not treat health as a right and upmost priority . It is short sighted, greedy, and cruel. With the ability to regulate the system we are continually kicking ourselves in the balls so that something around a few thousand people can get richer at the cost of individuals and the nation.
But in reality, we aren’t a very joyful, happy or healthy society and we’re getting less so.
Thinking of things in terms of rights, whether positive or negative, imo leads to less joy, happiness and health. We’d do well to start thinking of things in terms of honor and duty to others.
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Honor and duty are things that used to be held up as reasons to do things. The last several decades have made Americans aware that they are being taken advantage of when our leaders use those words.
Humans are animals. We are pack animals. Unfortunately, we are accepting political parties and propaganda as our packs rather than actual people. We are considering what is good for that party rather than actual people.
Duty? We select our leaders through a filter that basically eliminates the likelihood that they ever even knew what that word means. Honor? There is no service other than self service and cronyism in high level politics any more. I don’t know when there ever was but it’s not in my adulthood, for sure. I stated this as an absolute, realizing that there are surely some that are have good intentions, but statistically you need hundreds of them to have any chance at large changes.
Relying on hope and duty is giving up. The world doesn’t run on it. I don’t think it ever has. It’s a romantic notion that is useful to sway feeling in those you want to take from. They are beautiful ideas but not useful, unfortunately.
Americans have to treat the things needed for a healthy society as rights, have to vote that way to gain those rights, or else those in power will ensure they are monetized without any actual care for quality or coverage.
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That's a quality deep thought, CNS.
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Yep
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Yes, very well put by CNS, no notes.
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A populace made up of individuals more concerned with an honorable application of duty to one another than their own individual rights aka needs and, especially wants will be healthier regardless. I don't see how, regardless of governmental application, the desire to shift hearts and minds of the people to their own honor and duty to one another is giving up.
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A populace made up of individuals more concerned with an honorable application of duty to one another than their own individual rights aka needs and, especially wants will be healthier regardless. I don't see how, regardless of governmental application, the desire to shift hearts and minds of the people to their own honor and duty to one another is giving up.
The desire for that shift is not giving up. It’s noble. Relying on it as the way to make it all work out is giving up. I think you are discussing this philosophically and I am discussing the real world application of it, which are two different things. The former is a noble want, but our people don’t have it in them.
Look at the self proclaimed religious ppl right now. Philosophically, you would think they would have this code down and that love, honor, and duty would be everywhere. How do you feel that is going?
If we want things in our society, we need to establish those things as rights. We have been playing this governmental experiment long enough now to know that honor and duty can’t be relied upon to love the needle at all for the good of the ppl, trickle down economics doesn’t work, and if you can make a lot of money by limiting the well being of others then people are going to do it.
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A populace made up of individuals more concerned with an honorable application of duty to one another than their own individual rights aka needs and, especially wants will be healthier regardless. I don't see how, regardless of governmental application, the desire to shift hearts and minds of the people to their own honor and duty to one another is giving up.
The desire for that shift is not giving up. It’s noble. Relying on it as the way to make it all work out is giving up. I think you are discussing this philosophically and I am discussing the real world application of it, which are two different things. The former is a noble want, but our people don’t have it in them.
Look at the self proclaimed religious ppl right now. Philosophically, you would think they would have this code down and that love, honor, and duty would be everywhere. How do you feel that is going?
If we want things in our society, we need to establish those things as rights. We have been playing this governmental experiment long enough now to know that honor and duty can’t be relied upon to love the needle at all for the good of the ppl, trickle down economics doesn’t work, and if you can make a lot of money by limiting the well being of others then people are going to do it.
Word, brother.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C1q4EHttOn8/?hl=en
I saw a similar reel a month or two ago that may have done a better job putting this in perspective, but it helped me better understand the importance about getting the most enjoyment out of everyday and worrying less about the big picture and long term planning that consumes our lives. Like, we'll be lucky to be a distant memory to more than a few people in 50 -75 years so enjoy the little things and explore this beautiful world.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C1q4EHttOn8/?hl=en
I saw a similar reel a month or two ago that may have done a better job putting this in perspective, but it helped me better understand the importance about getting the most enjoyment out of everyday and worrying less about the big picture and long term planning that consumes our lives. Like, we'll be lucky to be a distant memory to more than a few people in 50 -75 years so enjoy the little things and explore this beautiful world.
I liked the phrase “if it is not going to matter in 5 years, don’t spend more than 5 minutes being upset about it.”
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C1q4EHttOn8/?hl=en
I saw a similar reel a month or two ago that may have done a better job putting this in perspective, but it helped me better understand the importance about getting the most enjoyment out of everyday and worrying less about the big picture and long term planning that consumes our lives. Like, we'll be lucky to be a distant memory to more than a few people in 50 -75 years so enjoy the little things and explore this beautiful world.
I liked the phrase “if it is not going to matter in 5 years, don’t spend more than 5 minutes being upset about it.”
Its a good one. I also like "don't worry about things you can't change". My own personal one I use a lot is "Well, I don't have a rough ridin' time machine, so lets just move on". A variation of this I use quite a bit that Mrs SF loves a lot is, "oh, crap, you found the time machine".
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I'm butchering this, but I heard someone allegedly quote a buddhist thought leader saying that we should think of it as a blessing (or at least a "good thing") if we can't do anything about something that is troubling us, because now we can let it go and not worry about it. They said way better than me.
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I'm butchering this, but I heard someone allegedly quote a buddhist thought leader saying that we should think of it as a blessing (or at least a "good thing") if we can't do anything about something that is troubling us, because now we can let it go and not worry about it. They said way better than me.
But you showed humility, and I was still moved by it. That's what matters.
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i found this on reddit and thought it was interesting.
“As incomprehensible to us as airplanes are to ants.”
I like this phrase. An ant could be out in your yard when a jet flies over and not recognize the jet as a distinct part of the environment, much less identify as something artificial.
I wonder if there are aspects and characteristics, or even objects, in the universe that we are simply unable to comprehend in any meaningful way. There are questions we will never be able to answer because we can never know to ask them.
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I hope so!
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With how vast the universe is, I think it is mathematically impossible that we (humans from earth) are aware of all the things that exist, have existed,or will exist. And quite frankly, I hope that’s the case bc otherwise what a waste.
Like the apex of existence is…a species that will happily have a gunfight to the death over how woke bud light is. No, no sir, I don’t think so
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I hope they make contact in my lifetime (or this simulation). So many other interesting things have happened in our world in our lifetime, eff it, let’s put the cherry on it.
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If you're signing your name in wet concrete, there's no rule against back-dating it
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If you're signing your name in wet concrete, there's no rule against back-dating it
True, there's technically no rule against lacking dignity.
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If you're signing your name in wet concrete, there's no rule against back-dating it
True, there's technically no rule against lacking dignity.
What can I say? I'm a wildcard. I live for kayos (?)
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:D
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i found this on reddit and thought it was interesting.
“As incomprehensible to us as airplanes are to ants.”
I like this phrase. An ant could be out in your yard when a jet flies over and not recognize the jet as a distinct part of the environment, much less identify as something artificial.
I wonder if there are aspects and characteristics, or even objects, in the universe that we are simply unable to comprehend in any meaningful way. There are questions we will never be able to answer because we can never know to ask them.
This is covered in The three body problem.
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Its pretty crazy that we zoom down roads at 80mph in a metal tube with no control over what other people are doing...we just assume everyone knows the rules (merging/passing/etc) and somehow it works (mostly).
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Its pretty crazy that we zoom down roads at 80mph in a metal tube with no control over what other people are doing...we just assume everyone knows the rules (merging/passing/etc) and somehow it works (mostly).
I always think about this when people are afraid of doing normal crap. I'm like, we are having this conversation while you are driving 80 with a coffee in your hand, meanwhile some ding dong is coming the other way just as fast scrolling instagram. Driving is so insanely dangerous and we don't even think about it that much.
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Its pretty crazy that we zoom down roads at 80mph in a metal tube with no control over what other people are doing...we just assume everyone knows the rules (merging/passing/etc) and somehow it works (mostly).
I always think about this when people are afraid of doing normal crap. I'm like, we are having this conversation while you are driving 80 with a coffee in your hand, meanwhile some ding dong is coming the other way just as fast scrolling instagram. Driving is so insanely dangerous and we don't even think about it that much.
i think its some kind of invincibility fallacy where you're like "eh, i can slam on the brakes or swerve to save myself. I am in complete control of my own destiny"
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do smart phones ever appear in your guys' dreams? I can't think of a single dream i've had where there was a smart phone.
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do smart phones ever appear in your guys' dreams? I can't think of a single dream i've had where there was a smart phone.
Its because you don't have hands or your hands are all weird in dreams.
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do smart phones ever appear in your guys' dreams? I can't think of a single dream i've had where there was a smart phone.
Yeah, I can recall. It was a very mundane dream.