Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 03, 2023, 08:08:49 AM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1609947167141105664?s=20&t=FCGoqfs_54AQ8NOeb3cmTQ
Post by: nicname on January 03, 2023, 08:52:45 AM
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1609938236519944193?cxt=HHwWgsC4ofuS09csAAAA
Tomlin on pace to crush KSU single season dunk mark. Johnson dunking a lot as well
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1609392057398747136?cxt=HHwWgICz2ZPj2tUsAAAA
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1606475190497525760?cxt=HHwWgICq4ZOrrMssAAAA
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 03, 2023, 08:57:44 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 03, 2023, 08:58:38 AM
Post by: I_have_purplewood on January 03, 2023, 08:59:10 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 03, 2023, 09:01:21 AM
Post by: nicname on January 03, 2023, 09:09:20 AM
Makol should honestly be at 26 dunks but he doinked like 8 or 9 dunks off the rim so he officially is the leader there too. Fred McCoy is 2nd with 5 doink dunks.
N’Guessan has two donks this year, I believe
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 03, 2023, 09:39:56 AM
would not have guessed Rod would be so high on that list! I remember him as an ice-in-his-veins 3 pt sharpshooter.Rod did so many good things on the court. I always appreciated his rebounding and defense!
Post by: nicname on January 03, 2023, 10:19:31 AM
would not have guessed Rod would be so high on that list! I remember him as an ice-in-his-veins 3 pt sharpshooter.Rod did so many good things on the court. I always appreciated his rebounding and defense!
Barry
Dean
Rod
Pullen
Keyonte
top five cats since beasley. in no particular order
Post by: Winters on January 03, 2023, 02:07:36 PM
Post by: dal9 on January 05, 2023, 12:54:18 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35382521/texas-hit-rare-tech-tip-jersey-error
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 20, 2023, 03:09:33 PM
https://twitter.com/MarchMadnessMBB/status/1637543428153024515?s=20
Post by: pissclams on March 20, 2023, 03:56:34 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 20, 2023, 08:10:17 PM
would not have guessed Rod would be so high on that list! I remember him as an ice-in-his-veins 3 pt sharpshooter.Rod did so many good things on the court. I always appreciated his rebounding and defense!
Barry
Dean
Rod
Pullen
Keyonte
top five cats since beasley. in no particular order
I don't know who you remove, but Nowell has to be top 5.
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2023, 08:13:38 PM
would not have guessed Rod would be so high on that list! I remember him as an ice-in-his-veins 3 pt sharpshooter.Rod did so many good things on the court. I always appreciated his rebounding and defense!
Barry
Dean
Rod
Pullen
Keyonte
top five cats since beasley. in no particular order
I don't know who you remove, but Nowell has to be top 5.
I think you can make an argument for everyone but Pullen. At least for a single season.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2023, 12:01:12 AM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 21, 2023, 01:43:12 AM
I'm taking Wade off that list for 'Quis.
Agreed, he was on oscar's foot watch more than not.
Post by: catastrophe on March 21, 2023, 09:57:53 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 21, 2023, 10:39:27 AM
Gosh remember the days when like all our players were injured? What was going on? Playing too hard?adversity, mostly.
Post by: schreds21 on March 21, 2023, 10:44:37 AM
Floor slapping is hard on the bodyGosh remember the days when like all our players were injured? What was going on? Playing too hard?adversity, mostly.
Post by: nicname on March 21, 2023, 10:49:12 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 21, 2023, 11:07:08 AM
Picturing an unbridled Tang-led Dean is a cream dream of epic proportions.Dean swishing threes and midrange jumpers would open up the rim/lane for even more alley-oop thunderdunks and slashing reverse layups.
Post by: ShellShock on March 21, 2023, 02:00:25 PM
"You are my ambassador of 'Quan, man"
https://twitter.com/MarchMadnessMBB/status/1637543428153024515?s=20
IMO, the best part of this play was the shot under the basket of Desi. I can't seem to find it floating on the interwebs now, but it was great during the TV replay.
Post by: DQ12 on March 21, 2023, 02:23:13 PM
If you could bottle the feeling he must've had in that moment you could make a lot of money.
Post by: nicname on March 21, 2023, 02:31:52 PM
Picturing an unbridled Tang-led Dean is a cream dream of epic proportions.Dean swishing threes and midrange jumpers would open up the rim/lane for even more alley-oop thunderdunks and slashing reverse layups.
Dean would be right there dunking with the rest of our dudes. Tbh, Dean would be an excellent mentor for Tomlin. More similar skill and talent than one might realize.
https://youtu.be/eZdnydymMcs
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2023, 02:42:00 PM
Picturing an unbridled Tang-led Dean is a cream dream of epic proportions.Dean swishing threes and midrange jumpers would open up the rim/lane for even more alley-oop thunderdunks and slashing reverse layups.
Dean would be right there dunking with the rest of our dudes. Tbh, Dean would be an excellent mentor for Tomlin. More similar skill and talent than one might realize.
https://youtu.be/eZdnydymMcs
Outside of being stretch bigs, I don't think they have the same skill set, at all. Dean's ability to shoot sets up the rest of his game and he's way better back to the basket. NaeQuan's best skill is probably his handle, otherwise, right now anyway his whole game is predicted on being wildly athletic. Dean was more athletic than he was given credit for but he'd still be a very good basketball player of he was a step slower and had a vert 10" lower.
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2023, 02:47:18 PM
We don't post anyone up ever but I don't think NaeQuan would be very good at it because he weighs like 165lb
Post by: nicname on March 21, 2023, 02:53:32 PM
Post by: chum1 on March 21, 2023, 03:01:14 PM
Post by: nicname on March 21, 2023, 03:04:29 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2023, 03:14:07 PM
Post by: nicname on March 21, 2023, 03:18:27 PM
I do think it's interesting that I can't remember us posting anyone up on the block at all. I hadn't really thought about it until now, am I right about that?
Have we posted Keyonte? He’s backed down a few guys, but that’s as close as I can remember.
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2023, 03:22:12 PM
I do think it's interesting that I can't remember us posting anyone up on the block at all. I hadn't really thought about it until now, am I right about that?
Have we posted Keyonte? He’s backed down a few guys, but that’s as close as I can remember.
Yeah he usually gets the ball on the wing
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2023, 03:55:33 PM
Tomlin’s handles are an indicator that he can develop a lot of the fine skills Dean has. He can also eat biscuits.
Yeah, he can, probably will never be the shooter that Dean is though, and that's okay. He also may just get by from being a crazy athlete too, plenty of those in the NBA. He doesn't need to gain weight.
I do think it's interesting that I can't remember us posting anyone up on the block at all. I hadn't really thought about it until now, am I right about that?
Have we posted Keyonte? He’s backed down a few guys, but that’s as close as I can remember.
Yes, we have a few iso sets that have key posted up. We posted N'Guessan in the noncon and early in conference play, that 7 for 7 he had against West Virginia was almost entirely on post ups but we haven't posted him since he came back from injury. We'll also post up Iyiola, but he hasn't played much lately. The frequency in which we use the post up seems to be related to how well we're doing with the high screen game.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 29, 2023, 12:44:38 PM
https://youtu.be/90k7wNQDm74
Post by: chum1 on March 29, 2023, 12:59:50 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 29, 2023, 01:19:28 PM
You know it's a good team when they have highlights like that. What a year.I'd forgotten about Keyontae's dunk to close out oSu. That was just filthy. Nae'Quan's dunk against Radford was amazing.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 29, 2023, 03:01:13 PM
Post by: waks on March 30, 2023, 01:17:04 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2023, 09:05:42 AM
#2 and #1 seem like very similar plays.
Markquis didn't get enough credit for how much of a dime that KU lob was. It was well defended, Wilson did a great job recovering but the ball was just beyond his finger tips. The Michigan State oop was a lot more wide open and Key made a great play.
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2023, 09:33:02 AM
#2 and #1 seem like very similar plays.
Markquis didn't get enough credit for how much of a dime that KU lob was. It was well defended, Wilson did a great job recovering but the ball was just beyond his finger tips. The Michigan State oop was a lot more wide open and Key made a great play.
He and Key both make their parts look waaay easier than they are. We have been spoiled this season.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 30, 2023, 09:39:23 AM
Post by: nicname on March 30, 2023, 01:39:49 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2023, 09:51:00 AM
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1718635049589801404
Post by: Cire on October 29, 2023, 10:07:00 AM
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2023, 11:27:41 AM
Post by: nicname on October 29, 2023, 11:28:48 AM
1. Tomlin obv didn’t do anything serious or he would have been charged with battery or assault or something along those lines.
2. This is likely the result of being 6’10” and easily recognizable when a skirmish breaks out at what is now an 18-21 bar.
3. It was at 2AM, so it might not have even been in Tubby’s but easily could have just been a bystander or trying to break up something, yelling as the closing time mob fills the area near corner of 12th and Moro.
TL;DR - the charges scream nothing burger to me and Tomlin will be fine.
Post by: wetwillie on October 29, 2023, 11:33:46 AM
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 29, 2023, 12:22:01 PM
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Post by: CNS on October 29, 2023, 03:52:08 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 29, 2023, 04:10:35 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 29, 2023, 04:18:08 PM
unbelievable timing with ngongba in town
What if he was acting disorderly on behalf on ngongba like they’ve already formed such a close bond after just a few hours have you even considered that??? :surprised:
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 30, 2023, 08:54:07 AM
Post by: Cire on October 30, 2023, 10:18:18 AM
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 30, 2023, 06:32:32 PM
https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1718966112207986907
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I don't love this for us.
Post by: pissclams on October 30, 2023, 08:15:55 PM
flagg to duke should be of no surprise to anyonehttps://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1718966112207986907
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I don't love this for us.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 30, 2023, 09:05:14 PM
He's gonna be fine
He will be. Just not as a wildcat
Post by: IPA4Me on October 31, 2023, 08:17:22 AM
He's gonna be fineHe's done in Manhattan.
Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2023, 08:18:48 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 31, 2023, 08:56:38 AM
What makes you say that?
suspended indefinitely. Qwon gone.
Post by: Brock Landers on October 31, 2023, 09:04:38 AM
Post by: CNS on October 31, 2023, 09:19:50 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 31, 2023, 09:19:59 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 31, 2023, 09:30:01 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 31, 2023, 09:31:10 AM
Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2023, 09:54:21 AM
I assume indefinitely just means until they figure some crap out as far as how many games but they want the clock to start on tomorrows game.
Yea I didn't read it as gone for good. Hope not anyway.
Post by: IPA4Me on October 31, 2023, 10:52:48 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 31, 2023, 11:25:02 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 31, 2023, 11:30:45 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 31, 2023, 11:34:58 AM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 31, 2023, 11:54:28 AM
Post by: CNS on October 31, 2023, 12:06:19 PM
If you sub to KSO, there's a thread about situation. A screenshot was share with me. Doesn't look good for thunder dunking at KSU.
Please provide more detail here.
Post by: IPA4Me on October 31, 2023, 12:09:25 PM
If you sub to KSO, there's a thread about situation. A screenshot was share with me. Doesn't look good for thunder dunking at KSU.
Please provide more detail here.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231031/03877fb638b2631313d26e6b86372518.jpg)
Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2023, 12:42:24 PM
Post by: ben ji on October 31, 2023, 01:01:32 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 31, 2023, 01:23:14 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on October 31, 2023, 01:29:29 PM
Truth will surface eventually.
Post by: CNS on October 31, 2023, 02:07:50 PM
How do we know Pete didn't just AI that photo though?
Those “bouncers” are obviously all Austin Meek. Signature of Pete photoshops.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 31, 2023, 04:23:29 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 31, 2023, 04:35:04 PM
it just goes to show no matter how far we've come, we are still lightyears behind ku. This happened in larrytown there wouldn't have even been an arrest.We can only dream to be that good at covering up crimes on a constant basis.
Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2023, 04:42:41 PM
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 31, 2023, 05:44:34 PM
it just goes to show no matter how far we've come, we are still lightyears behind ku. This happened in larrytown there wouldn't have even been an arrest.
I was going to say that this is child's play in L-town.
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2023, 08:09:03 PM
if this happened in lawrentucky, Nae’Quan would be automatically signed to a $1M NIL deal and his jersey number would be in the rafters. K-thUg fans absolutely live for their athletes to reign terror upon their student body in the most violent ways imaginableit just goes to show no matter how far we've come, we are still lightyears behind ku. This happened in larrytown there wouldn't have even been an arrest.
I was going to say that this is child's play in L-town.
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 31, 2023, 08:33:56 PM
if this happened in lawrentucky, Nae’Quan would be automatically signed to a $1M NIL deal and his jersey number would be in the rafters. K-thUg fans absolutely live for their athletes to reign terror upon their student body in the most violent ways imaginableit just goes to show no matter how far we've come, we are still lightyears behind ku. This happened in larrytown there wouldn't have even been an arrest.
I was going to say that this is child's play in L-town.
Can we start the process of passing the hat to raise some funds for some gold plated bb-gun pistoles for this kid? $1M in NIL isn't going to save us at this point. Make it a nice case too with his initials on the handles please. tia :bigtoke: (ftp://:bigtoke:)
Post by: OK_Cat on November 01, 2023, 11:25:27 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on November 01, 2023, 11:26:18 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 01, 2023, 11:55:33 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 01, 2023, 02:54:23 PM
I have no problem with Tang saying churchy things in regards to the suspension, that's on-brand for him. KSU Twitter people tweeting at Tomlin that they forgive him and are praying for him is really cringy though.A KSU fan offered Nae'Quan forgiveness?
Post by: CNS on November 01, 2023, 03:19:22 PM
Post by: Spracne on November 01, 2023, 03:26:50 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 01, 2023, 03:59:30 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on November 01, 2023, 06:37:03 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2023, 10:16:58 AM
If you sub to KSO, there's a thread about situation. A screenshot was share with me. Doesn't look good for thunder dunking at KSU.
Please provide more detail here.
This is in no way descriptive of a class B misdemeanor. People on KSO just completely make up total bullshit, every single day on there. They have a culture of scooping on that site and have for years, even going back to the pre Gopowercat split, and it causes people to just routinely make crap up.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2023, 10:28:48 AM
Flagg going to Duke makes me more confident about Ngongba to Cats.
Five stars follow five stars, a tale as old as time
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 02, 2023, 10:48:01 AM
Flagg going to Duke makes me more confident about Ngongba to Cats.
Five stars follow five stars, a tale as old as time
Their recruiting is ridiculous. I may be totally wrong, but I'm predicting transfers and/or flips from Duke in the next couple years. They will have 10 or so top 25 recruits on their roster next year in addition to NBA talent maybe staying.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2023, 11:30:00 AM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1720112364547133623
Post by: CNS on November 02, 2023, 11:46:32 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 02, 2023, 12:12:06 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on November 02, 2023, 04:56:57 PM
pain
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1720112364547133623
I feel like this is something you say so that the fanbase is extra supportive of him coming back. And then he comes back and even the tucks think the staff did the right thing.
Post by: CNS on November 02, 2023, 05:42:23 PM
Post by: Spracne on November 02, 2023, 05:48:40 PM
I feel like if he did something bad enough to be suspended for the season that there would be something significant to come out.
Sounds like they're letting the legal process play out and will then reevaluate.
As for me, I've already prayed for and forgiven him.
Post by: wetwillie on November 02, 2023, 05:53:04 PM
Post by: Spracne on November 02, 2023, 06:41:07 PM
The wheels of justice turn slowly
Not if you do it right. Are you telling me KSU doesn't have at least 1-2 lawyers on standby who have good working relationships with the D.A.? You can quickly plea these things out and get them resolved. Just a late-night bar fracas among college kids, after all.
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 02, 2023, 08:55:36 PM
This isn’t KU, we don’t need them that often.The wheels of justice turn slowly
Not if you do it right. Are you telling me KSU doesn't have at least 1-2 lawyers on standby who have good working relationships with the D.A.? You can quickly plea these things out and get them resolved. Just a late-night bar fracas among college kids, after all.
Post by: Spracne on November 02, 2023, 08:57:05 PM
This isn’t KU, we don’t need them that often.The wheels of justice turn slowly
Not if you do it right. Are you telling me KSU doesn't have at least 1-2 lawyers on standby who have good working relationships with the D.A.? You can quickly plea these things out and get them resolved. Just a late-night bar fracas among college kids, after all.
Rule [whatever]: No self-limitations.
Post by: Stevesie60 on November 02, 2023, 09:24:08 PM
This isn’t KU, we don’t need them that often.The wheels of justice turn slowly
Not if you do it right. Are you telling me KSU doesn't have at least 1-2 lawyers on standby who have good working relationships with the D.A.? You can quickly plea these things out and get them resolved. Just a late-night bar fracas among college kids, after all.
Don't know if you're doing a bit or just being tuck-y, but if you didn't know that K-State has lawyers on standby for this exact situation then now you do. Maybe Tang really is too religious, or oblivious, to think he needs something like this. Or it really was ergregious enough that even that safety net couldn't save him.
Post by: 8manpick on November 02, 2023, 09:29:41 PM
Post by: mocat on November 02, 2023, 10:31:53 PM
Post by: Spracne on November 02, 2023, 10:33:14 PM
Tanguary
U trynna make a Frank Martini?
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 03, 2023, 08:56:11 AM
Assuming every drunk person there has a different version of the story.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 03, 2023, 09:41:28 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 03, 2023, 03:08:45 PM
It's a conspiracy to cover up the real issue with NCAA compliance.
hey I said that first
Post by: MakeItRain on November 06, 2023, 09:05:32 AM
:bawl: :excited:
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1721530052846690527
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 22, 2023, 01:09:12 PM
Post by: Spracne on November 22, 2023, 01:16:44 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 22, 2023, 01:48:08 PM
Why was that designated as "sensitive media"?I have no idea
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 22, 2023, 07:12:03 PM
Post by: CNS on November 22, 2023, 07:13:08 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 22, 2023, 08:39:16 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 22, 2023, 08:58:04 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 22, 2023, 10:03:28 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2023, 07:29:51 AM
Why was that designated as "sensitive media"?
You see how hot even a cartoon version of Nae is? :lightsaber:
Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2023, 07:33:19 AM
Assuming MIR is right (never a safe move), Tomlin will have completed a six-game NCAA suspension as of tonight. Now the charade will continue with Tang praising the work and attention Nae'Quan made to recommit himself to the team and being a better person and student.
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I also said that NCAA suspensions vary in length based on the violation and how much money you took. Kerr Kriisa is currently serving a 9 game suspension.
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 23, 2023, 07:38:50 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2023, 07:50:28 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2023, 07:55:34 AM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1727537200928006459
Post by: wetwillie on November 23, 2023, 08:15:34 AM
Post by: Stevesie60 on November 23, 2023, 05:55:17 PM
Wait a minute, he was on the bench last night :love:
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1727537200928006459
So what would this hypothetically mean?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 24, 2023, 01:41:57 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 24, 2023, 06:31:10 AM
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 25, 2023, 12:36:22 PM
A few more games of suspension, maybe? NCAA kind of arbitrary on the number of games handed down. I saw the WV center transfer was given an eight-game suspension for something he did/accepted at his former school.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2023, 01:06:58 PM
In his post-game press Wednesday, Tang said he was back with the team because he felt it was better for Nae'Quan to not be isolated. Coach said he wasn't practicing because his ankle is still sore (didn't know it was hurt). As for when he'll start playing, "part of the process."
A few more games of suspension, maybe? NCAA kind of arbitrary on the number of games handed down. I saw the WV center transfer was given an eight-game suspension for something he did/accepted at his former school.
Guard and it's nine games
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2023, 01:10:27 PM
Buckle up.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 04, 2023, 01:17:42 PM
This hasn't made it's way here yet but according to Cole Manbeck UPres Dick Lint seems to be preventing 'Qwan from coming back and the coaches are livid about it. Fitz says, and I can't read this because it's apparently behind his paywall, that Lint is worried about a title ix violation, but he's the only one with that concern. He also wants Tomlin to not come back at all.
Buckle up.
don't like that
Post by: steve dave on December 04, 2023, 01:36:23 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 04, 2023, 01:41:47 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 04, 2023, 01:43:41 PM
Post by: Spracne on December 04, 2023, 01:44:55 PM
I had no idea our president is named Dick lint
I had to look it up b/c too good to be true. Richard Linton is the name. Meddling in sports is his game.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 04, 2023, 01:58:54 PM
This hasn't made it's way here yet but according to Cole Manbeck UPres Dick Lint seems to be preventing 'Qwan from coming back and the coaches are livid about it. Fitz says, and I can't read this because it's apparently behind his paywall, that Lint is worried about a title ix violation, but he's the only one with that concern. He also wants Tomlin to not come back at all.none of this sounds good
Buckle up.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 04, 2023, 02:34:38 PM
Post by: OB_Won on December 04, 2023, 02:39:24 PM
Doesn't this guy know he's insulated by the assistant coaches, head coach, and athletic director? Just look the other way! SEC has shown you "how it's done" because "it just means more".This hasn't made it's way here yet but according to Cole Manbeck UPres Dick Lint seems to be preventing 'Qwan from coming back and the coaches are livid about it. Fitz says, and I can't read this because it's apparently behind his paywall, that Lint is worried about a title ix violation, but he's the only one with that concern. He also wants Tomlin to not come back at all.none of this sounds good
Buckle up.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 04, 2023, 02:55:06 PM
It's the student affairs office, not the pres office from what I've heard, and the pres has to abide by student affairs in these types of matters as I understand it.
Wait. Did the lint come before or after the affair? Just how deep does this disease go?
Post by: pissclams on December 04, 2023, 02:57:04 PM
any chance we can bring in an arbitrator to shuffle through the process and come to an equitable solution?
it’s hard to imagine how leveling the death penalty on our young tomlin is in his best interests.
who’s running the show in the student affairs office? someone needs to pay these people a visit, pronto!
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Post by: wetwillie on December 04, 2023, 04:00:10 PM
the reality is if Tang feels he does not have full authority of his program he will go somewhere he will. the details of the incident are cloudy to say the least but if we have opened a title IX investigation because a girl was caught in the cross fire of a fight between an athlete and the bouncers at Tubby's we should just bring back oscar
Tang doesn't get to dictate how the university runs. He's not going to go somewhere over this and if he does then he will just bump up against it again at some point.
Post by: mocat on December 04, 2023, 04:11:10 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 04, 2023, 04:41:35 PM
can't wait to hear how bob strawn was actually involved in like 2036
Just who do you think put that lint on the dick?
Post by: CNS on December 04, 2023, 04:48:06 PM
Sincerely, a season ticket holder.
Post by: steve dave on December 04, 2023, 05:24:53 PM
We whipped this entire process's ass when it came to CK.Yes, we had Bosco defending the righteous then though
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Post by: wetwillie on December 04, 2023, 05:34:23 PM
Post by: Cire on December 04, 2023, 05:45:41 PM
Refresh me on what happened with CK?He and pullen got clothes from someone that worked at the mall.
Must not have been Curt’s first infraction. They had a hearing about his status and pat bosco told John Currie to eat a dick and drove Curt to practice
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Post by: wetwillie on December 04, 2023, 05:53:03 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 04, 2023, 05:54:41 PM
Refresh me on what happened with CK?He and pullen got clothes from someone that worked at the mall.
Must not have been Curt’s first infraction. They had a hearing about his status and pat bosco told John Currie to eat a dick and drove Curt to practice
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Lollers...Just got a mental image of Bosco whooping ass at the hearing then saying "Jump in Curtis, we're going to practice" as CK has to duck real low to get into some 2008 buick.
Post by: Skipper44 on December 04, 2023, 06:05:06 PM
swap in a purple jeep and you nailed itRefresh me on what happened with CK?He and pullen got clothes from someone that worked at the mall.
Must not have been Curt’s first infraction. They had a hearing about his status and pat bosco told John Currie to eat a dick and drove Curt to practice
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Lollers...Just got a mental image of Bosco whooping ass at the hearing then saying "Jump in Curtis, we're going to practice" as CK has to duck real low to get into some 2008 buick.
Post by: mocat on December 04, 2023, 06:10:40 PM
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Post by: cfbandyman on December 04, 2023, 08:14:27 PM
We whipped this entire process's ass when it came to CK.Yes, we had Bosco defending the righteous then though
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Post by: nicname on December 04, 2023, 09:18:24 PM
https://www.k-state.edu/academic-success-student-affairs/documents/DASSA%20Org%20Chart_11223_onepage.pdf
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 05, 2023, 01:12:32 AM
I think qwan possibly assaulted a female student enrolled at KSU during the brawl he was involved in so it doesn't really feel like an apples to apples comparison to me.All the details should be in the county attorney's charging report, which is public record. I strongly doubt Tomlin assaulted anyone. Assault isn't an offense that is offered diversion.
Has any media outlet sought the paperwork on the case? An aggressive press outlet would be seeking any video of the incident.
Post by: chum1 on December 05, 2023, 07:18:37 AM
Has any media outlet sought the paperwork on the case? An aggressive press outlet would be seeking any video of the incident.
No doubt Fitz is doing all that. Lmao
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 05, 2023, 08:24:19 AM
I think qwan possibly assaulted a female student enrolled at KSU during the brawl he was involved in so it doesn't really feel like an apples to apples comparison to me.All the details should be in the county attorney's charging report, which is public record. I strongly doubt Tomlin assaulted anyone. Assault isn't an offense that is offered diversion.
Has any media outlet sought the paperwork on the case? An aggressive press outlet would be seeking any video of the incident.
not to be THAT ATTORNEY (i am not an attorney at all) but i believe assault is more like hitting with your words and battery is more like hitting with your fists (maybe the law offices of Spracs 'Stone & Trim can confirm?)
Post by: Spracne on December 05, 2023, 11:39:30 AM
I think qwan possibly assaulted a female student enrolled at KSU during the brawl he was involved in so it doesn't really feel like an apples to apples comparison to me.All the details should be in the county attorney's charging report, which is public record. I strongly doubt Tomlin assaulted anyone. Assault isn't an offense that is offered diversion.
Has any media outlet sought the paperwork on the case? An aggressive press outlet would be seeking any video of the incident.
not to be THAT ATTORNEY (i am not an attorney at all) but i believe assault is more like hitting with your words and battery is more like hitting with your fists (maybe the law offices of Spracs 'Stone & Trim can confirm?)
That's typically true in the tort context (civil suits), but states vary in terms of how they codify crimes, and some do away with that distinction. You've got the gist of it at common law.
Post by: waks on December 05, 2023, 09:56:57 PM
Pretty sure CK was almost kicked off the team because of a hot piss test, not Dillards-gate. IIRC Skinny Benny wrote a legendary letter-to-the-editor to the Collegian in CK's defense and Bosco came to the rescue. Pretty embarrassed for supposed liftetime fans Cire and Benji in this thread TBH. :facepalm:Refresh me on what happened with CK?He and pullen got clothes from someone that worked at the mall.
Must not have been Curt’s first infraction. They had a hearing about his status and pat bosco told John Currie to eat a dick and drove Curt to practice
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Post by: Cire on December 05, 2023, 09:59:55 PM
I thought that was wrong when I wrote itPretty sure CK was almost kicked off the team because of a hot piss test, not Dillards-gate. IIRC Skinny Benny wrote a legendary letter-to-the-editor to the Collegian in CK's defense and Bosco came to the rescue. Pretty embarrassed for supposed liftetime fans Cire and Benji in this thread TBH. :facepalm:Refresh me on what happened with CK?He and pullen got clothes from someone that worked at the mall.
Must not have been Curt’s first infraction. They had a hearing about his status and pat bosco told John Currie to eat a dick and drove Curt to practice
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 05, 2023, 10:05:53 PM
Post by: pissclams on December 05, 2023, 10:07:35 PM
One of the students flash a "FREE NAE'QUAN" message on his phone that got streamed to the videoboard in the OOD for several seconds tonightit was two sided. he flashed the side with the non-offending message, got put on jumbotron, and flipped it over to the free nae’quan side
Post by: 'taterblast on December 06, 2023, 11:43:33 AM
Post by: pissclams on December 06, 2023, 11:57:12 AM
crap's blowing up. Linton is the enemy.how does linton have the power to prevent tang from playing our guy
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 06, 2023, 12:00:04 PM
crap's blowing up. Linton is the enemy.
can you say what's going on so I don't have to decipher random twitter posts
Post by: 'taterblast on December 06, 2023, 12:03:40 PM
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Post by: stunted on December 06, 2023, 12:06:34 PM
he gone
Post by: BMWWcat on December 06, 2023, 12:25:26 PM
Apparently president Linton is NOT wanting him to play...thus holding things up.
Means Tang isn't happy...unhappy Tang (because of a meddling university president) will be open to other coaching opportunities after this season.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 06, 2023, 12:42:01 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on December 06, 2023, 12:53:33 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on December 06, 2023, 01:36:36 PM
If the story about him beating up a girl is true, I'd like him off the team. Pretty hard to believe that story is true without an arrest and criminal charges, though.
i have to think something would have leaked if it was him beating up a girl. people claim to have seen the video. i'm also confident Tang wouldn't be wanting him back playing if it had been violence toward a woman.
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 06, 2023, 01:39:31 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 06, 2023, 01:42:37 PM
If the story about him beating up a girl is true, I'd like him off the team. Pretty hard to believe that story is true without an arrest and criminal charges, though.
i have to think something would have leaked if it was him beating up a girl. people claim to have seen the video. i'm also confident Tang wouldn't be wanting him back playing if it had been violence toward a woman.
yeah, this is my thing too. Tang would know and I can't imagine he would still having him hanging around. Plus, he would have been charged by now. Who freaking knows, but leave it up to us to hire a John Currie clone as president. I'm so sick of these righteous assholes. I'm not even saying I want a dirty ass program, (honestly that would be pretty cool though), but these pricks meddling in these issues has to stop.
Post by: ben ji on December 06, 2023, 01:55:57 PM
Can someone tell me specifically what went down, please and thank you.Scuffle with tubbys bar staff at closing time and a female nearby caught a stray is my understanding
Post by: pissclams on December 06, 2023, 02:48:48 PM
great question here by clams. afaik the athletic department didn’t answer to the UPcrap's blowing up. Linton is the enemy.how does linton have the power to prevent tang from playing our guy
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 06, 2023, 02:50:44 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 06, 2023, 03:11:21 PM
great question here by clams. afaik the athletic department didn’t answer to the UPcrap's blowing up. Linton is the enemy.how does linton have the power to prevent tang from playing our guy
great question clams. I actually wonder what would happen if Tang just played him. What is Richard going to do? It would be pretty awesome IMO, but would also signal that Tang is out, but it would be pretty hilarious.
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Post by: pissclams on December 06, 2023, 03:22:23 PM
Post by: pissclams on December 06, 2023, 03:22:46 PM
let him do that then, either way, tang is goneand off to a better,higher paying job
Post by: wetwillie on December 06, 2023, 03:24:55 PM
let him do that then, either way, tang is goneand off to a better,higher paying job
I think that is going to be the result regardless of what happens at this point
Post by: pissclams on December 06, 2023, 03:27:38 PM
idk. litton just needs to be put in his place, saying tang is gone bc of this is a lot over the top.let him do that then, either way, tang is goneand off to a better,higher paying job
I think that is going to be the result regardless of what happens at this point
it would be interesting though to see history repeat itself with an entirely new cast of characters
Post by: mocat on December 06, 2023, 03:31:51 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 06, 2023, 03:33:08 PM
idk. litton just needs to be put in his place, saying tang is gone bc of this is a lot over the top.let him do that then, either way, tang is goneand off to a better,higher paying job
I think that is going to be the result regardless of what happens at this point
it would be interesting though to see history repeat itself with an entirely new cast of characters
It would not be interesting. But I assume that Gene and this presdient know running off a wildly popular coach is horrible for your career.
Post by: kstater on December 06, 2023, 03:34:11 PM
let him do that then, either way, tang is goneDon't disagree. But the question was what mechanism the president had to control the suspension, and that's likely it.
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Post by: wetwillie on December 06, 2023, 03:38:55 PM
idk. litton just needs to be put in his place, saying tang is gone bc of this is a lot over the top.let him do that then, either way, tang is goneand off to a better,higher paying job
I think that is going to be the result regardless of what happens at this point
it would be interesting though to see history repeat itself with an entirely new cast of characters
Initially I would have agreed it's over the top, but I think the situation has taken a significant turn for the worse. Hopefully Dick Lint comes to his senses.
Post by: pissclams on December 06, 2023, 04:11:07 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 06, 2023, 04:18:27 PM
i would guess this is all coming out now for a specific reason from certain peopleYep, Christmas time
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Post by: CNS on December 06, 2023, 04:32:53 PM
His only win would be to let Tomlin play.
Post by: pissclams on December 06, 2023, 04:38:59 PM
I hadn’t considered that angle but I think there’s something to iti would guess this is all coming out now for a specific reason from certain peopleYep, Christmas time
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 06, 2023, 04:53:31 PM
Linton is in a bad spot thanks to this leak.
His only win would be to let Tomlin play.
I'm not even sure what the leak is at this point. Is it that it is for sure him being a dickbag and meddling where he shouldn't be or did more details come out?
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 06, 2023, 05:03:06 PM
i would guess this is all coming out now for a specific reason from certain peopleIt hasn't come out yet. We're all hanging around, scratching our heads about what is going on. Tang has played ball and talked only of "the process,"giving the impromession it's his decision.
The local media has been so lazy they haven't even taken the routine steps to get Tomlin's charging document, which would provide details of just what he allegedly did. Nor is anyone pressing Linton or Taylor for comment -- at least as far as I can gather. I would say this wouldn't happen in Lawrence as far as media coverage, but I remember the Billy Preston situation ever being fully explained. I will say the LJWorld would have had a story about the charges as it's a simple matter of going to the district court (which is what 3 blocks from the Mercury) and obtaining that public record. And why the eff hasn't the Collegian done more?
I look at the Riley County District Court website in an attempt to get the case number. Kansas district courts have different websites and navigation -- if they have them at all.
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 06, 2023, 05:35:14 PM
Post by: pissclams on December 06, 2023, 05:39:58 PM
enough has come out. our UP is being a bitch.i would guess this is all coming out now for a specific reason from certain peopleIt hasn't come out yet. We're all hanging around, scratching our heads about what is going on. Tang has played ball and talked only of "the process,"giving the impromession it's his decision.
The local media has been so lazy they haven't even taken the routine steps to get Tomlin's charging document, which would provide details of just what he allegedly did. Nor is anyone pressing Linton or Taylor for comment -- at least as far as I can gather. I would say this wouldn't happen in Lawrence as far as media coverage, but I remember the Billy Preston situation ever being fully explained. I will say the LJWorld would have had a story about the charges as it's a simple matter of going to the district court (which is what 3 blocks from the Mercury) and obtaining that public record. And why the eff hasn't the Collegian done more?
I look at the Riley County District Court website in an attempt to get the case number. Kansas district courts have different websites and navigation -- if they have them at all.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 06, 2023, 05:53:07 PM
idk. litton just needs to be put in his place, saying tang is gone bc of this is a lot over the top.let him do that then, either way, tang is goneand off to a better,higher paying job
I think that is going to be the result regardless of what happens at this point
it would be interesting though to see history repeat itself with an entirely new cast of characters
It would not be interesting. But I assume that Gene and this presdient know running off a wildly popular coach is horrible for your career.
This isn't Gene, all Dick Lint.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 06, 2023, 05:55:18 PM
So I understand Fitz said today on WIBW sports talk that it's Linton, who doesn't want to see Tomlin play of K-State again. If that's indeed the case, Linton needs to own it. As I said, Tang played along about "the process,"let Linton die on that hill.
Manbeck and Derek Young have both said that not only is Dick Lint doing this on his own but there are people on his staff that disagrees with him.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 06, 2023, 06:02:00 PM
https://twitter.com/toby_hammes/status/1732492197063246100
https://twitter.com/toby_hammes/status/1732493083567390726
https://twitter.com/toby_hammes/status/1732504330479997334
https://twitter.com/toby_hammes/status/1732518155233165344
https://twitter.com/iamtimeverson/status/1732537059875643464
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 06, 2023, 06:07:16 PM
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Post by: kstater on December 06, 2023, 07:03:29 PM
I'm not sure I could have come up with a bigger disaster of a day for KSU sports if I triedWell, I mean, Avery hasn't announced he's transferring, and Tang likely isn't leaving in the middle of the year, so I guess it could be worse.
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Post by: EMAWzifried on December 06, 2023, 08:37:56 PM
Since I didn't know butkus about this dipshit, I read his bio on the university website. Apparently a big food science guy. Food Science. Let him tell them how to make ice cream and Call Hall or something, but get him the eff away for the sports programs.
Post by: steve dave on December 06, 2023, 08:42:12 PM
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 06, 2023, 08:43:05 PM
The sad thing is we're going to lose Tang and the asshat of a president is going to be around long either. You come across people like him when reading history. Inflexible know it alls, who insist on micro managing and alienate everyone while making an enormous shitpile of everything. In the meantime, Tang's gone and no other coach worth having is going to take the job when the university president won't trust you to exercise judgment on fundamental team issues.Yep, this is exactly the type of bad person that can and probably has already nuked a basketball program. No way any coach worth a crap will put up with this. The worst part is, he won’t give 2 fucks either and will say stupid crap like, “I’m not the one that got arrested” or whatever.
Since I didn't know butkus about this dipshit, I read his bio on the university website. Apparently a big food science guy. Food Science. Let him tell them how to make ice cream and Call Hall or something, but get him the eff away for the sports programs.
I rough ridin' hate being so small timy. It’s so stupid and completely unnecessary. It’s not endearing, it’s pathetic.
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Post by: ben ji on December 06, 2023, 08:47:35 PM
Post by: BostonPancake on December 06, 2023, 08:57:41 PM
Just curious….
Post by: catastrophe on December 06, 2023, 08:59:41 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 06, 2023, 09:00:43 PM
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I assume Tomlin can transfer and is clear to play elsewhere for second semester. Would not surprise me to see him in red and blue.
Post by: Spracne on December 06, 2023, 09:03:45 PM
The privacy aspect is ruining Tomlin's reputation because it leads many to the conclusion he must have done something very bad. I'm seeing lots of posts that basically state"there must be a lot more to this or he would be cleared to play. I don't want someone who decked a coed on the team." But ol' Southern boy Lint just smugly hides behind subordinates and "federal rules,"while Tomlin's is screwed.Quote
I assume Tomlin can transfer and is clear to play elsewhere for second semester. Would not surprise me to see him in red and blue.
Tomlin himself could clear the air, if he so chose.
Post by: catastrophe on December 06, 2023, 09:04:34 PM
The decision and statement apparently came from Taylor FWIW.The privacy aspect is ruining Tomlin's reputation because it leads many to the conclusion he must have done something very bad. I'm seeing lots of posts that basically state"there must be a lot more to this or he would be cleared to play. I don't want someone who decked a coed on the team." But ol' Southern boy Lint just smugly hides behind subordinates and "federal rules,"while Tomlin's is screwed.Quote
I assume Tomlin can transfer and is clear to play elsewhere for second semester. Would not surprise me to see him in red and blue.
And yeah, I absolutely expect some charges to be coming soon. Otherwise it makes zero sense to suspend the guy like a month before dismissing him.
Post by: doom on December 06, 2023, 09:31:10 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 06, 2023, 09:31:27 PM
The decision and statement apparently came from Taylor FWIW.The privacy aspect is ruining Tomlin's reputation because it leads many to the conclusion he must have done something very bad. I'm seeing lots of posts that basically state"there must be a lot more to this or he would be cleared to play. I don't want someone who decked a coed on the team." But ol' Southern boy Lint just smugly hides behind subordinates and "federal rules,"while Tomlin's is screwed.Quote
I assume Tomlin can transfer and is clear to play elsewhere for second semester. Would not surprise me to see him in red and blue.
And yeah, I absolutely expect some charges to be coming soon. Otherwise it makes zero sense to suspend the guy like a month before dismissing him.
charges? didn't he already get a diversion? are these different ones?
Post by: Tobias on December 06, 2023, 09:33:45 PM
Post by: doom on December 06, 2023, 09:35:56 PM
The decision and statement apparently came from Taylor FWIW.The privacy aspect is ruining Tomlin's reputation because it leads many to the conclusion he must have done something very bad. I'm seeing lots of posts that basically state"there must be a lot more to this or he would be cleared to play. I don't want someone who decked a coed on the team." But ol' Southern boy Lint just smugly hides behind subordinates and "federal rules,"while Tomlin's is screwed.Quote
I assume Tomlin can transfer and is clear to play elsewhere for second semester. Would not surprise me to see him in red and blue.
And yeah, I absolutely expect some charges to be coming soon. Otherwise it makes zero sense to suspend the guy like a month before dismissing him.
charges? didn't he already get a diversion? are these different ones?
There aren't new charges. This happened because he showed up to the protest. It's a violation of his right to assemble. So, not only do we lose Tang, but we'll be paying Tomlin for not playing for eternity.
Post by: Trim on December 06, 2023, 09:41:30 PM
Post by: wetwillie on December 06, 2023, 09:43:54 PM
Guys, yesterday at this time he was on the bench and in the locker room with KSU. Tonight, he's off the team. The only thing that happened in between is he attended a protest outside Linton's house. If you care at all, email [email protected] this very second and point out the illegal dismissal of Nae'Quan and demand an investigation into this retaliation against Nae'Quan's First Amendment rights.
Was this written from a drafting table in your basement?
Post by: doom on December 06, 2023, 09:46:12 PM
Guys, yesterday at this time he was on the bench and in the locker room with KSU. Tonight, he's off the team. The only thing that happened in between is he attended a protest outside Linton's house. If you care at all, email [email protected] this very second and point out the illegal dismissal of Nae'Quan and demand an investigation into this retaliation against Nae'Quan's First Amendment rights.
Was this written from a drafting table in your basement?
I typed it on my phone after breaking my dick off in your mom's ass.
Post by: wetwillie on December 06, 2023, 09:46:54 PM
Post by: doom on December 06, 2023, 09:48:42 PM
Oh man the zeal is back
Also, that drafting table was boss. Miss the crap out of that drafting table.
Post by: ELL3 on December 06, 2023, 09:50:39 PM
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Post by: ben ji on December 06, 2023, 09:52:43 PM
Unfounded Conspiracy Theory: what if tang wanted Tomlin kicked off the team and dick lint is taking the heat to shield him? (#leadership)
And what if (insert me make a demeaning joke about sleeping with your mother and her falling in love with me only to break her heart)
I'm sorry, that was mean.
Post by: pissclams on December 06, 2023, 09:56:22 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 06, 2023, 10:00:33 PM
this is why you never plead guilty to a diversion :frown:#rentfree
#trimdorkin
Post by: wetwillie on December 06, 2023, 10:01:35 PM
Unfounded Conspiracy Theory: what if tang wanted Tomlin kicked off the team and dick lint is taking the heat to shield him? (#leadership)
This is so crazy it just might be true
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 06, 2023, 10:15:52 PM
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Post by: doom on December 06, 2023, 10:24:56 PM
Your rage is justified. Hydrate, dear brother. :cheers:
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Post by: doom on December 06, 2023, 10:34:10 PM
Seems like all the protest did was speed up the announcement of the dismissal. All the leaks that started coming out last night and this morning made it sound like a final decision was coming today and it wasn't looking good. Guessing the hope was outside pressure would change UPs mind.
Protests should not inform this kind of decision. The president should not be making this decisions at all.
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 06, 2023, 10:44:16 PM
Post by: catastrophe on December 06, 2023, 10:50:14 PM
The decision and statement apparently came from Taylor FWIW.The privacy aspect is ruining Tomlin's reputation because it leads many to the conclusion he must have done something very bad. I'm seeing lots of posts that basically state"there must be a lot more to this or he would be cleared to play. I don't want someone who decked a coed on the team." But ol' Southern boy Lint just smugly hides behind subordinates and "federal rules,"while Tomlin's is screwed.Quote
I assume Tomlin can transfer and is clear to play elsewhere for second semester. Would not surprise me to see him in red and blue.
And yeah, I absolutely expect some charges to be coming soon. Otherwise it makes zero sense to suspend the guy like a month before dismissing him.
charges? didn't he already get a diversion? are these different ones?
Keep in mind I have no idea what I'm talking about. All I'm saying is the cryptic statement about "false information" circulating and not being able to address the situation sure makes it sound like some non-public information is out there that justifies dismissal as opposed to the suspension he got following the arrest.
If there isn't, it's a bad look for the university and AD, and I would probably send an email to that address doom was circulating.
Post by: catastrophe on December 06, 2023, 10:52:50 PM
Post by: waks on December 07, 2023, 12:08:16 AM
If the story about him beating up a girl is true, I'd like him off the team. Pretty hard to believe that story is true without an arrest and criminal charges, though.From what I am hearing it is not even close to that. Tomlin was involved in an altercation that started inside of Tubby's. He was escorted out to the patio where the fight popped off again. Tomlin's girlfriend was trying to break up the fight and ended up catching one. Not a great situation but far from Tomlin beating the hell out of a woman. There's a reason this thing went quickly to diversion. There's no videotape as my understanding is that the police didn't even obtain security footage. Source = A-
Post by: AzCat on December 07, 2023, 03:54:49 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 07, 2023, 04:23:12 AM
this is why you never plead guilty to a diversion :frown:
:lol:
Post by: stunted on December 07, 2023, 04:36:56 AM
Post by: doom on December 07, 2023, 07:45:44 AM
some people saying there's more to it though
So, he was on the bench on Tuesday but has to go on Wednesday? That doesn't make any sense. Know what makes sense? Richard Linton had an old bro power trip. You can contact him at 785-532-6221 to ask him about it for yourself.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 07, 2023, 08:14:15 AM
I guess it's also possible that nothing really changed except Tomlin lied about some details that ended up coming to light. Isn't that what happened with Kareem Hunt in KC?
In that case there was a video that came to light in public and the Chiefs felt embarrassed. Diff situation
Post by: CNS on December 07, 2023, 08:16:57 AM
I guess it's also possible that nothing really changed except Tomlin lied about some details that ended up coming to light. Isn't that what happened with Kareem Hunt in KC?
In that case there was a video that came to light in public and the Chiefs felt embarrassed. Diff situation
It's 2023(damn near 2024). If Nae'Quan Tomlin was in a bar fight in Aggieville, it is on rough ridin' vid a couple of dozen somewheres at very least.
Post by: Cire on December 07, 2023, 08:17:18 AM
Tomlin had issues while he was here. Got to a point that he was suspended/couldn’t play.
He graduated e in Dec. athletic staff wanted to make sure that happened and Gene signed off.
Tubbys fight happened. Students get squirrelly about it thinking bfd happens all the time.
Pres pulls the plug before things spiral.
Klein leaving exacerbates everything.
He was never coming back. Stuck around to graduate. Hopefully there’s a chance that tang and co realize pres/gene had no choice due to chants/booing/protests etc.
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 07, 2023, 08:30:34 AM
Spitballing /drawing conclusions
Tomlin had issues while he was here. Got to a point that he was suspended/couldn’t play.
He graduated e in Dec. athletic staff wanted to make sure that happened and Gene signed off.
Tubbys fight happened. Students get squirrelly about it thinking bfd happens all the time.
Pres pulls the plug before things spiral.
Klein leaving exacerbates everything.
He was never coming back. Stuck around to graduate. Hopefully there’s a chance that tang and co realize pres/gene had no choice due to chants/booing/protests etc.
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This is all possible I guess, but I would add a last point that the whole admin is full of complete dumbasses in the way all of this was handled. I still don't understand why the hell the president was even mentioned or involved at all. Like, I know Tang isn't Bill Self, sure he's a better human being, but that's not the point. There is zero chance the KU president gets involved in something like this with a KU player right? Its all just weird.
Post by: ChiComCat on December 07, 2023, 08:32:27 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 07, 2023, 09:08:46 AM
Spitballing /drawing conclusions
Tomlin had issues while he was here. Got to a point that he was suspended/couldn’t play.
He graduated e in Dec. athletic staff wanted to make sure that happened and Gene signed off.
Tubbys fight happened. Students get squirrelly about it thinking bfd happens all the time.
Pres pulls the plug before things spiral.
Klein leaving exacerbates everything.
He was never coming back. Stuck around to graduate. Hopefully there’s a chance that tang and co realize pres/gene had no choice due to chants/booing/protests etc.
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Post by: Cire on December 07, 2023, 09:12:31 AM
I don't know that he should've been reinstated as the rumors were bad (although waks sheds some light on it). The only thing that changed yesterday though was students being mean to the University President. It's pretty cowardly to kick a player off the team because college students are being mean to you. If that's how Linton handles dealing with college students, it's pretty reasonable to question his fitness to lead a university.
It wasn't really a story thought until the students started acting up. They DO NOT want this to be an espn storyline, semester is basically over, pres said, we're done here.
again, I don't know anything other than what i've consumed on message boards and twitter. This is the only thing that makes sense.
I don't think anyone has "cancer brain" or is trying to micromanage.
i think gene and jerome have tomlin's best interests at heart, but it's close enough to the end, pres doesn't want bad press so cut ties.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 07, 2023, 09:18:29 AM
I don't know that he should've been reinstated as the rumors were bad (although waks sheds some light on it). The only thing that changed yesterday though was students being mean to the University President. It's pretty cowardly to kick a player off the team because college students are being mean to you. If that's how Linton handles dealing with college students, it's pretty reasonable to question his fitness to lead a university.
It wasn't really a story thought until the students started acting up. They DO NOT want this to be an espn storyline, semester is basically over, pres said, we're done here.
again, I don't know anything other than what i've consumed on message boards and twitter. This is the only thing that makes sense.
I don't think anyone has "cancer brain" or is trying to micromanage.
i think gene and jerome have tomlin's best interests at heart, but it's close enough to the end, pres doesn't want bad press so cut ties.
So he is a complete rough ridin' idiot....?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 07, 2023, 09:18:52 AM
He should be able to play.
Post by: deputy dawg on December 07, 2023, 09:41:02 AM
Release the report or charge him with additional stuff. Otherwise, everyone needs to stop speculating that what he did was super awful (whether it involved a girl or not). Sounds like he went through his legal process and is on diversion.
He should be able to play.
Diversion agreements are not reached lightly. A diversion specialist determined that Tomlin was unlikely to engage in another offense, so agreed to the diversion. Not a chance in hell a case like this would get to a university president decision at KU. The prez apparently does not subscribe to the MCMW philosophy, my question is did he step on Tang's toes in this process? I trust Tang more than anyone else in this situation, and would be interested in knowing whether he was on board with the dismissal.
Post by: doom on December 07, 2023, 10:00:07 AM
Post by: Trim on December 07, 2023, 10:07:40 AM
Release the report or charge him with additional stuff. Otherwise, everyone needs to stop speculating that what he did was super awful (whether it involved a girl or not). Sounds like he went through his legal process and is on diversion.
He should be able to play.
Diversion agreements are not reached lightly. A diversion specialist determined that Tomlin was unlikely to engage in another offense, so agreed to the diversion.
Sometimes diversions are offered when the prosecutor things there are some issues with the case that make winning at trial dicey, yet they still know the defendant absolutely did that crap and want some consequence/remedy. And sometimes those defendants agree to those diversions because while they might win at trial, the benefits of resolving with diversion make it not worth the gamble (and because they know they did that crap).
No idea/interest in this case, but I’ve seen a lot of leaps the past few days* as to what a diversion result means.
*in the Pit, it’s been a few months
Post by: catastrophe on December 07, 2023, 10:22:43 AM
He's clearly not on board.Is there really anything stopping Tang from expressing disappointment about the situation?
He strikes me as the type of guy who holds players to a very high standard. I could see him being pissed not just about the arrest but the fact Tomlin was out late at a bar in the first place.
Post by: Pete on December 07, 2023, 10:27:09 AM
He strikes me as a guy who will put on a brave face in public, but you can bet his agent and coaching friends are like “dude, go get paid in the big 2.”He's clearly not on board.Is there really anything stopping Tang from expressing disappointment about the situation?
He strikes me as the type of guy who holds players to a very high standard. I could see him being pissed not just about the arrest but the fact Tomlin was out late at a bar in the first place.
Post by: Trim on December 07, 2023, 10:38:23 AM
He strikes me as a guy who will put on a brave face in public, but you can bet his agent and coaching friends are like “dude, go get paid in the big 2.”He's clearly not on board.Is there really anything stopping Tang from expressing disappointment about the situation?
He strikes me as the type of guy who holds players to a very high standard. I could see him being pissed not just about the arrest but the fact Tomlin was out late at a bar in the first place.
Pete, we call those people, “god.”
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 07, 2023, 10:40:36 AM
He's clearly not on board.Is there really anything stopping Tang from expressing disappointment about the situation?
He strikes me as the type of guy who holds players to a very high standard. I could see him being pissed not just about the arrest but the fact Tomlin was out late at a bar in the first place.
Probably, but he's probably in the wrong business if he doesn't expect these situations to pop up every once in a while with college kids. I'd bet lots of internet dollars that some Baylor guys got in some trouble while he was there and I'm sure he was pissed/disappointed and made them run their assess off, but the rough ridin' university president didn't come knocking on his or Drew's office.
Post by: michigancat on December 07, 2023, 10:46:16 AM
He's clearly not on board.Is there really anything stopping Tang from expressing disappointment about the situation?
He strikes me as the type of guy who holds players to a very high standard. I could see him being pissed not just about the arrest but the fact Tomlin was out late at a bar in the first place.
Probably, but he's probably in the wrong business if he doesn't expect these situations to pop up every once in a while with college kids. I'd bet lots of internet dollars that some Baylor guys got in some trouble while he was there and I'm sure he was pissed/disappointed and made them run their assess off, but the rough ridin' university president didn't come knocking on his or Drew's office.
You don't think a UP would get involved with player discipline at Baylor after Briles and Bliss? come on
Post by: chum1 on December 07, 2023, 10:50:09 AM
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Sources told Burner Ball there is a separate issue at hand that drove President Linton to make this decision. Details of the issue cannot and will not be shared by this outlet.
https://twitter.com/trillydonovan/status/1732785507338232195
Post by: kstater on December 07, 2023, 10:54:58 AM
Yes, there's definitely something else he did. And no one can talk about it. It's for sure it's a coincidence that it's the day that the President got butthurt and embarrassed that the AD decided on his own to kick him off the team.QuoteSources told Burner Ball there is a separate issue at hand that drove President Linton to make this decision. Details of the issue cannot and will not be shared by this outlet.
https://twitter.com/trillydonovan/status/1732785507338232195
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Post by: pissclams on December 07, 2023, 10:56:37 AM
is the “source” dick lint?QuoteSources told Burner Ball there is a separate issue at hand that drove President Linton to make this decision. Details of the issue cannot and will not be shared by this outlet.
https://twitter.com/trillydonovan/status/1732785507338232195
Post by: Cire on December 07, 2023, 11:10:03 AM
That ended it.
Post by: michigancat on December 07, 2023, 11:13:49 AM
Post by: Pete on December 07, 2023, 11:23:56 AM
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 07, 2023, 11:24:07 AM
Yes, there's definitely something else he did. And no one can talk about it. It's for sure it's a coincidence that it's the day that the President got butthurt and embarrassed that the AD decided on his own to kick him off the team.QuoteSources told Burner Ball there is a separate issue at hand that drove President Linton to make this decision. Details of the issue cannot and will not be shared by this outlet.
https://twitter.com/trillydonovan/status/1732785507338232195
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There was never any issue with an agent, like was suspected. There have been two situations this semester that required an investigation. The first was cleared days before the 2nd took place, which was the bar situation and got amplified due to the first. But ultimately cleared as well.
Post by: catastrophe on December 07, 2023, 11:25:59 AM
Might have missed it, but did Gene come out and say “Tomlin needs to go?”Gene is the one who released the statement saying he made the call. Beyond that, idk.
Post by: tdaver on December 07, 2023, 11:43:24 AM
Post by: mocat on December 07, 2023, 11:45:16 AM
Craziest thing in all this is finding out OKCat is a Linton sock
where do you think the lint came from?
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 07, 2023, 11:56:27 AM
However, i'm just a dumb dumb that doesn't even really like basketball unless we are good, so what do i know?
Post by: bucket on December 07, 2023, 12:04:46 PM
QuoteSources told Burner Ball there is a separate issue at hand that drove President Linton to make this decision. Details of the issue cannot and will not be shared by this outlet.
https://twitter.com/trillydonovan/status/1732785507338232195
GTFO with this "we know the deets but we're not going to share them. They're just too crazy, bro."
Post by: michigancat on December 07, 2023, 12:24:04 PM
QuoteSources told Burner Ball there is a separate issue at hand that drove President Linton to make this decision. Details of the issue cannot and will not be shared by this outlet.
https://twitter.com/trillydonovan/status/1732785507338232195
GTFO with this "we know the deets but we're not going to share them. They're just too crazy, bro."
I'm not sure how that's worse than what the fanboy media stirring up this crap is doing. (maybe you don't think it is)
Post by: wetwillie on December 07, 2023, 12:25:54 PM
Post by: doom on December 07, 2023, 12:37:52 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 07, 2023, 12:39:11 PM
None of this is ever going to come out officially. Qwan has nothing to gain from it and KSU can't legally divulge it.
Most likely true, but i'm still miffed on the horrible awful thing only Tomlin and a guy named Burnerball knows about and is so awful they can't even talk about, but RCPD and/or the NCAA apparently give no shits about. At least as of yet.
Post by: Cire on December 07, 2023, 12:41:32 PM
None of this is ever going to come out officially. Qwan has nothing to gain from it and KSU can't legally divulge it.
Most likely true, but i'm still miffed on the horrible awful thing only Tomlin and a guy named Burnerball knows about and is so awful they can't even talk about, but RCPD and/or the NCAA apparently give no shits about. At least as of yet.
bar fight and a girl was struck
Post by: ChiComCat on December 07, 2023, 12:42:23 PM
Post by: doom on December 07, 2023, 12:43:10 PM
None of this is ever going to come out officially. Qwan has nothing to gain from it and KSU can't legally divulge it.
Most likely true, but i'm still miffed on the horrible awful thing only Tomlin and a guy named Burnerball knows about and is so awful they can't even talk about, but RCPD and/or the NCAA apparently give no shits about. At least as of yet.
I know what it is, but I can't talk about it, guise. It's totally real and I know it because of my access and likability, but you guys can't know. But for reel, I totally know. Me and burnerball. Just over here knowing things and totally not lying.
Post by: ChiComCat on December 07, 2023, 12:45:07 PM
Post by: Pete on December 07, 2023, 01:02:20 PM
Post by: chum1 on December 07, 2023, 01:02:40 PM
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by the time the transfer portal started humming in April, Trilly Donovan had gained a reputation as one of college basketball’s most trusted news breakers. He has over 24,500 followers on the platform now known as X, and fans fervently await his dispatches on recruiting and coaching moves.
“He’s pretty accurate,” Kansas State coach Jerome Tang said. “It’s like he’s sitting in people’s staff meetings.”
https://theathletic.com/4765841/2023/08/15/trilly-donovan-college-basketball-twitter/
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 07, 2023, 01:20:48 PM
FYI regarding Burner BallQuoteby the time the transfer portal started humming in April, Trilly Donovan had gained a reputation as one of college basketball’s most trusted news breakers. He has over 24,500 followers on the platform now known as X, and fans fervently await his dispatches on recruiting and coaching moves.
“He’s pretty accurate,” Kansas State coach Jerome Tang said. “It’s like he’s sitting in people’s staff meetings.”
https://theathletic.com/4765841/2023/08/15/trilly-donovan-college-basketball-twitter/
I'm sure Burnerball is rough ridin' great, but nothing still makes any sense. Is burnerball withholding info from the cops? In the end, time will clear some things up. If he never gets charged with anything else, if he goes to a new school, and most important of all, if Tang gets the eff out. Regardless, this was handled by a bunch of dumbasses for the most part and at the same time I learned our UPs name and decided that I hate him. Go Cats
Post by: Skipper44 on December 07, 2023, 01:38:48 PM
also maybe it should not be a surprise that a guy that had never been a UP before screwed this all up, i doubt his career as a BAE dept chair prepared him for this kind of shitstorm
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 07, 2023, 01:42:06 PM
Post by: wetwillie on December 07, 2023, 01:46:28 PM
We’ll know more if Tomlin lands at a new school. The new school will say something like “we reviewed it and it’s cool with us.” KSU fans will all then grab the torches and pitchforks. As well they should.
I hope he goes G league or something non collegiate. Will hurt too much seeing him suit up for someone else.
Post by: catastrophe on December 07, 2023, 01:47:17 PM
Nothing is confirmed. So anyone saying it’s made up doesn’t have the first rough ridin' clue if it is or not.Was waiting for this. Thank you.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 07, 2023, 01:58:12 PM
Post by: doom on December 07, 2023, 02:03:30 PM
I do wish someone had told Tomlin not to show up to that protest. That wasn't wise.
No. That is not a good enough reason for this.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 07, 2023, 02:04:46 PM
I do wish someone had told Tomlin not to show up to that protest. That wasn't wise.
I don't think that had anything to do with the outcome. If it did, then the Dick Lint needs to be fired.
Post by: bucket on December 07, 2023, 02:07:49 PM
We’ll know more if Tomlin lands at a new school. The new school will say something like “we reviewed it and it’s cool with us.” KSU fans will all then grab the torches and pitchforks. As well they should.
I hope he goes G league or something non collegiate. Will hurt too much seeing him suit up for someone else.
I just want him to do whatever showcases himself the best for the upcoming NBA draft. I hoped that was as a Wildcat but that's no longer going to happen.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 07, 2023, 02:09:53 PM
I do wish someone had told Tomlin not to show up to that protest. That wasn't wise.
I don't think that had anything to do with the outcome. If it did, then the Dick Lint needs to be fired.
I don't think it did either, but if the goal was to get back in the good graces of the University, that wasn't wise.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 07, 2023, 02:10:34 PM
I do wish someone had told Tomlin not to show up to that protest. That wasn't wise.
No. That is not a good enough reason for this.
you guys love adding stuff that isn't said to posts on this blog. all I said was it wasn't helpful
Post by: doom on December 07, 2023, 02:13:24 PM
I do wish someone had told Tomlin not to show up to that protest. That wasn't wise.
No. That is not a good enough reason for this.
you guys love adding stuff that isn't said to posts on this blog. all I said was it wasn't helpful
You're such a racist.
Post by: wetwillie on December 07, 2023, 02:14:50 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 07, 2023, 02:30:15 PM
Post by: Pete on December 07, 2023, 02:35:36 PM
Please.We’ll know more if Tomlin lands at a new school. The new school will say something like “we reviewed it and it’s cool with us.” KSU fans will all then grab the torches and pitchforks. As well they should.
I hope he goes G league or something non collegiate. Will hurt too much seeing him suit up for someone else.
I just want him to do whatever showcases himself the best for the upcoming NBA draft. I hoped that was as a Wildcat but that's no longer going to happen.
His focus should be on vindication and blame assignment.
We all need to just settle down and not engage in any preemptive freak outs, and remain committed to only freaking out at the appropriate time.
Post by: doom on December 07, 2023, 03:57:02 PM
Please.We’ll know more if Tomlin lands at a new school. The new school will say something like “we reviewed it and it’s cool with us.” KSU fans will all then grab the torches and pitchforks. As well they should.
I hope he goes G league or something non collegiate. Will hurt too much seeing him suit up for someone else.
I just want him to do whatever showcases himself the best for the upcoming NBA draft. I hoped that was as a Wildcat but that's no longer going to happen.
His focus should be on vindication and blame assignment.
We all need to just settle down and not engage in any preemptive freak outs, and remain committed to only freaking out at the appropriate time.
We do not need to settle down. We need to be consistent and clear and get Linton out. Don't be a tuck. I'm tired of waiting till crap falls apart.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 07, 2023, 04:15:32 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 07, 2023, 04:24:40 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 07, 2023, 05:20:18 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 07, 2023, 05:23:50 PM
Please.We’ll know more if Tomlin lands at a new school. The new school will say something like “we reviewed it and it’s cool with us.” KSU fans will all then grab the torches and pitchforks. As well they should.
I hope he goes G league or something non collegiate. Will hurt too much seeing him suit up for someone else.
I just want him to do whatever showcases himself the best for the upcoming NBA draft. I hoped that was as a Wildcat but that's no longer going to happen.
His focus should be on vindication and blame assignment.
We all need to just settle down and not engage in any preemptive freak outs, and remain committed to only freaking out at the appropriate time.
We do not need to settle down. We need to be consistent and clear and get Linton out. Don't be a tuck. I'm tired of waiting till crap falls apart.
This actually seems to be the "tuck" stance tbh
Post by: IPA4Me on December 07, 2023, 05:30:33 PM
Post by: nicname on December 07, 2023, 07:19:13 PM
Obv if all the speculation is true, then we better be doing everything we can to get the hatchet buried. It may seem weird for a mbb coach to be more important than a UP, but in this instance that certain seems to be the case from my vantage point.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 07, 2023, 07:35:30 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1732934034957717970?s=20
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2023, 07:38:18 PM
What is the indication that Tang is/was super-mad about this, there is a big row between Tang/Gene and Linton and prob gonna leave? Everything I see is just speculation by internet weirdos and journos.
Obv if all the speculation is true, then we better be doing everything we can to get the hatchet buried. It may seem weird for a mbb coach to be more important than a UP, but in this instance that certain seems to be the case from my vantage point.
yeah, I mean, there is a lot more than speculation, just fyi on that point.
also every division 1 P5 basketball and football coach is more important than the UP. not even comparable roles in how much more important the HCs of those sports are. maybe we were just not used to it because wefald was here for like 100 years but that position rolls over constantly at actual normal schools. it's very much a replaceable role and very much a revolving door at most big schools. we can replace linton (and whatever he brings to the table which I haven't the slightest idea what that is) but will have a harder time replacing a good FB or BB coach (which imo we somehow have right now which rules).
also if you're just a money guy check what salary each participant makes. all else equal that's a good measure of importance.
Post by: catastrophe on December 07, 2023, 07:38:26 PM
Not that I have any reason to believe there’s even a rift here outside of rumors and speculation.
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2023, 07:39:04 PM
It’s kinda hard to tell how successful a UP is, and very easy to tell how successful a HC is. Everyone knows Tang kicks ass and I have no idea about the other guy so yeah I’m team Tang all day long.
Not that I have any reason to believe there’s even a rift here outside of rumors and speculation.
UPs are a dime a dozen. irl.
Post by: nicname on December 07, 2023, 07:39:16 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1732934034957717970?s=20
:love: :cry: :love: :emawkid:
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2023, 07:39:48 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1732934034957717970?s=20
he's an incredible leader of men
Post by: nicname on December 07, 2023, 07:40:35 PM
yeah, I mean, there is a lot more than speculation, just fyi on that point.
say it plain
Post by: catastrophe on December 07, 2023, 07:40:51 PM
WHAT SAY YOU DOOM?
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1732934034957717970?s=20
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2023, 07:41:07 PM
yeah, I mean, there is a lot more than speculation, just fyi on that point.
say it plain
not mine to say
Post by: catastrophe on December 07, 2023, 07:42:10 PM
Probs because it’s really hard to objectively measure if they’re doing a good job relative to their peers.It’s kinda hard to tell how successful a UP is, and very easy to tell how successful a HC is. Everyone knows Tang kicks ass and I have no idea about the other guy so yeah I’m team Tang all day long.
Not that I have any reason to believe there’s even a rift here outside of rumors and speculation.
UPs are a dime a dozen. irl.
Post by: nicname on December 07, 2023, 07:43:26 PM
yeah, I mean, there is a lot more than speculation, just fyi on that point.
say it plain
not mine to say
totes agree with the rest of your post btw.
Which is why the thought of Gene/Tang, but especially Gene, having hands forced by UPDL didn't/doesn't make much sense.
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2023, 07:44:33 PM
Probs because it’s really hard to objectively measure if they’re doing a good job relative to their peers.It’s kinda hard to tell how successful a UP is, and very easy to tell how successful a HC is. Everyone knows Tang kicks ass and I have no idea about the other guy so yeah I’m team Tang all day long.
Not that I have any reason to believe there’s even a rift here outside of rumors and speculation.
UPs are a dime a dozen. irl.
EVER HEAR OF THE ROSEWATER (?), GOLDWAIT (?), RHODES (?), OR OTHER ONES (?) SCHOLARSHIPS IDIOT?
Post by: wetwillie on December 07, 2023, 07:44:52 PM
yeah, I mean, there is a lot more than speculation, just fyi on that point.
say it plain
not mine to say
It's been a minute since BSAC blessed us with a nugget
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2023, 07:45:45 PM
yeah, I mean, there is a lot more than speculation, just fyi on that point.
say it plain
not mine to say
totes agree with the rest of your post btw.
Which is why the thought of Gene/Tang, but especially Gene, having hands forced by UPDL didn't/doesn't make much sense.
makes sense to me on gene, ADs are a dime a dozen too
Post by: catastrophe on December 07, 2023, 07:50:26 PM
You’re making all those upProbs because it’s really hard to objectively measure if they’re doing a good job relative to their peers.It’s kinda hard to tell how successful a UP is, and very easy to tell how successful a HC is. Everyone knows Tang kicks ass and I have no idea about the other guy so yeah I’m team Tang all day long.
Not that I have any reason to believe there’s even a rift here outside of rumors and speculation.
UPs are a dime a dozen. irl.
EVER HEAR OF THE ROSEWATER (?), GOLDWAIT (?), RHODES (?), OR OTHER ONES (?) SCHOLARSHIPS IDIOT?
Post by: nicname on December 07, 2023, 07:55:31 PM
yeah, I mean, there is a lot more than speculation, just fyi on that point.
say it plain
not mine to say
totes agree with the rest of your post btw.
Which is why the thought of Gene/Tang, but especially Gene, having hands forced by UPDL didn't/doesn't make much sense.
makes sense to me on gene, ADs are a dime a dozen too
I like to think of Gene, Tang and Klieman as SNL's Ted Brogan, Chico and Catman, while UPDL is more like Daddy Chris Kattan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddNMQGcg0-w
Post by: CHONGS on December 07, 2023, 08:07:33 PM
Post by: Cire on December 07, 2023, 08:36:31 PM
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Post by: pissclams on December 07, 2023, 08:40:23 PM
Tang is pretty amazing. Maybe he's a great actor, maybe I'm a naive sucker, I don't know, but I buy what he's selling.he’s as genuine a person that there is, i’m surprised that you don’t know that.
Post by: CHONGS on December 07, 2023, 09:03:12 PM
Post by: nicname on December 07, 2023, 09:04:09 PM
Tang is pretty amazing. Maybe he's a great actor, maybe I'm a naive sucker, I don't know, but I buy what he's selling.he’s as genuine a person that there is, i’m surprised that you don’t know that.
He’s one of the rare few that are so genuine, that it almost seems as though it has to be an act, because we are so unused to being in that type of presence. I have a cousin, who I hadn’t seen since childhood, but ran into a couple of years ago that is very similar.
Post by: Hurricane Cat on December 07, 2023, 09:16:11 PM
https://x.com/caroline_soro/status/1732888990838034789?s=20
Post by: Hurricane Cat on December 07, 2023, 09:24:41 PM
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Post by: EMAWzifried on December 07, 2023, 11:34:27 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 07, 2023, 11:49:28 PM
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Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2023, 06:20:57 AM
Fran just couldn't leave it alone and admit he didn't have crap on the situation, so went with a little character assassination. Kudos to Quis for telling him to STFU.Actually in that tweet and reply it seems like we got more on the record info than we have from anyone in the last two days. Markquis acknowledges that Tomlin had some work to do (almost affirming what Fran said) and Fran lets people know teams will be coming after Tomlin. So good work all around, even if this still doesn't make much sense based on what the public knows
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Post by: pissclams on December 08, 2023, 07:01:20 AM
It's more an indictment of my shitty cynicism than anything. Genuineness isn't something I come across that often these days.i’m a pretty big cynic myself and can understand how you feel, but you’ve got to believe in someone, sometime. this guy is real.
all of that is not to say that he won’t ever leave ksu, but for now he’s handling the situation as well as anyone could.
Post by: wayoutwestwillie on December 08, 2023, 08:34:39 AM
Facts:
Tomlin was coming off an in-house suspension for in-house stuff in late Oct (No agent issues whatsoever.)
Whole team went to Tubby's and was blowing off some steam before season
Qwan needed to blow off even more steam, and like any fun loving college student had a really great time Fall down pee pants good time
Somebody forgot a cell phone and Qwan and a few others went back to Tubby's, Qwan falls down, bouncers come over, Qwan is not compliant, probably blacked out at that point
Cops come, Qwan still not compliant, arrest happens
RCPD reviewed video, no fight, nobody got hit
RCPD says he shouldn't have even been arrested...after the fact
Suspension is only to last 8 games
Diversion granted...end of legal story
Linton takes out of Tang's hands
Qwan misses game 9
Linton threatens Gene's job
Minor protest
Linton and Co write statement for Gene to sign.
Qwan gone.
Money is livid.
Ice is Vice Chair of KSBOR.
Post by: wetwillie on December 08, 2023, 08:37:22 AM
Thank goodness for Markquis!
Facts:
Tomlin was coming off an in-house suspension for in-house stuff in late Oct (No agent issues whatsoever.)
Whole team went to Tubby's and was blowing off some steam before season
Qwan needed to blow off even more steam, and like any fun loving college student had a really great time Fall down pee pants good time
Somebody forgot a cell phone and Qwan and a few others went back to Tubby's, Qwan falls down, bouncers come over, Qwan is not compliant, probably blacked out at that point
Cops come, Qwan still not compliant, arrest happens
RCPD reviewed video, no fight, nobody got hit
RCPD says he shouldn't have even been arrested...after the fact
Suspension is only to last 8 games
Diversion granted...end of legal story
Linton takes out of Tang's hands
Qwan misses game 9
Linton threatens Gene's job
Minor protest
Linton and Co write statement for Gene to sign.
Qwan gone.
Money is livid.
Ice is Vice Chair of KSBOR.
Thank you for posting qwan
Post by: doom on December 08, 2023, 08:38:22 AM
Question though. Why the "treating this like a season-ending injury" stuff if it wasn't meant to be indefinite?
Post by: wayoutwestwillie on December 08, 2023, 08:39:59 AM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 08, 2023, 08:55:12 AM
Tang (and Dowling) spreading love
https://x.com/caroline_soro/status/1732888990838034789?s=20
Coach Rheem is the man. Saw him in the Bahamas and he was just finishing up at a restaurant and had gotten up to leave. I was with Lil SF walking by and I saw him get up and I just said, "hey Coach Rheem" hoping to get a wave for Lil SF. Dude came running out of the place and just started talking to my son. Talked to him and took a couple of pics. He was so nice and I almost felt bad as I just hoped to get a wave for my kid and didn't want to bother him. He seems like a genuinely nice dude.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 08, 2023, 09:12:11 AM
Not sure if I am DOOM but Catfans owe Tang an even greater debt of gratitude and should plan to bring standing room only levels of love-filled DOOM every night that the Cats are in the OOD this season.WHAT SAY YOU DOOM?
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1732934034957717970?s=20
Post by: catastrophe on December 08, 2023, 09:44:17 AM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 08, 2023, 10:03:15 AM
Can't wait to love our opponents to death in the Octagon of Love.Not sure if I am DOOM but Catfans owe Tang an even greater debt of gratitude and should plan to bring standing room only levels of love-filled DOOM every night that the Cats are in the OOD this season.WHAT SAY YOU DOOM?
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1732934034957717970?s=20
Post by: chum1 on December 08, 2023, 10:08:32 AM
Octagon of Love
Yesss!!! I love this rebrand!
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 08, 2023, 10:57:43 AM
What a better game to rebrand to the Octagon of Love than Nebraska. LMAO :Wha:Octagon of Love
Yesss!!! I love this rebrand!
Post by: doom on December 08, 2023, 11:32:01 AM
What a better game to rebrand to the Octagon of Love than Nebraska. LMAO :Wha:Octagon of Love
Yesss!!! I love this rebrand!
Yeah, maybe we wait until a game with a lovable opponent. Someone could do a Tang or Quan sign on an octagon.
Post by: doom on December 08, 2023, 11:35:56 AM
WHAT SAY YOU DOOM?
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1732934034957717970?s=20
I'm still terrified he will leave, but I'll do whatever he says until he does and then organize a massive #firelinton campaign when/if that day comes.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 08, 2023, 11:39:30 AM
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Post by: wetwillie on December 08, 2023, 11:55:38 AM
Post by: CNS on December 08, 2023, 12:01:15 PM
KU has an open scholly :frown:
I hope Tomlin goes there. My kid is a Jayhawk. That would be awesome for both of them.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 08, 2023, 12:21:31 PM
Post by: wetwillie on December 08, 2023, 12:32:01 PM
What is the process for firing a university president? I would like to think that Tomlin going to KU would generate a ton of pressure from our alumni, but not sure if the state board of regents would care.
I think the winds may be blowing a different direction now
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2023, 12:36:51 PM
He was going to be able to come back until the bar fight.
That ended it.
Stop speaking with so much assuredness. If that "ended it" he wouldn't have been on the bench and locker room the last couple of games
Post by: Cire on December 08, 2023, 12:39:34 PM
He was going to be able to come back until the bar fight.
That ended it.
Stop speaking with so much assuredness. If that "ended it" he wouldn't have been on the bench and locker room the last couple of games
I'LL SPEAK HOW I WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD. YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF ME
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2023, 12:51:26 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2023, 01:01:18 PM
I loved the Tang video and the spirit behind it, however, I hope people don't stop asking questions of the administration.
Yep. Tang didn't say anything to absolve dick lint of anything, he just wants the focus to be on his players and not a pin headed administrator.
It's important to remember that short of Quan doing something very illegal that the RCPD and the Riley County Attorney decided to punt on, dick lint is guilty of overreach here. I don't know how a university president can successfully thread the needle of kicking an athlete off of their team, but allowing that same person to be enrolled in school. Did he cheat on a test? Probably should be expelled? Did he do something that the UP deems him a threat to a group of students or even an individual student? Why the hell is he still on campus then?
Post by: Cire on December 08, 2023, 01:09:10 PM
Spitballing /drawing conclusions
Spitballing /drawing conclusions[/size]
Tomlin had issues while he was here. Got to a point that he was suspended/couldn’t play.
He graduated e in Dec. athletic staff wanted to make sure that happened and Gene signed off.
Tubbys fight happened. Students get squirrelly about it thinking bfd happens all the time.
Pres pulls the plug before things spiral.
Klein leaving exacerbates everything.
He was never coming back. Stuck around to graduate. Hopefully there’s a chance that tang and co realize pres/gene had no choice due to chants/booing/protests etc.
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Yeah, that's fine, you just sound like a rough ridin' idiot who keeps trying to provide scoops when it's obvious that no one knows crap.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2023, 01:09:48 PM
https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=93783
Post by: CNS on December 08, 2023, 01:16:35 PM
Until I hear something more tangible, I am on Team fick that guy for tossing a kid out of college.
Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2023, 01:23:22 PM
He keeps mentioning Title IX, federal law, Ferpa, etc. he really wants us to read between lines, that can’t be made clear, so that we deduce something major as having happened.
Until I hear something more tangible, I am on Team fick that guy for tossing a kid out of college.
he didn't get kicked out of college though did he? It is all very strange and nothing I learn seems to make it make any more sense.
Post by: Woogy on December 08, 2023, 01:24:52 PM
Post by: Spracne on December 08, 2023, 01:25:38 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 08, 2023, 01:26:25 PM
Post by: hjfklmor on December 08, 2023, 01:27:57 PM
Post by: catastrophe on December 08, 2023, 01:28:18 PM
He keeps mentioning Title IX, federal law, Ferpa, etc. he really wants us to read between lines, that can’t be made clear, so that we deduce something major as having happened.
Until I hear something more tangible, I am on Team fick that guy for tossing a kid out of college.
he didn't get kicked out of college though did he? It is all very strange and nothing I learn seems to make it make any more sense.
This is where I'm at. The Linton angle sounds awful but I'm just having a hard time believing any of it because it makes zero sense the UP would force an AD to make a move here.
Post by: chum1 on December 08, 2023, 01:28:41 PM
And he confirmed that there was other stuff considered. I can understand how opinions on the severity of that stuff vary.
Post by: hjfklmor on December 08, 2023, 01:31:31 PM
Not that it was probably intentional but this feels like its undermining Tang's statement. Just let it go if you can't give details. It's not helping.
Post by: Woogy on December 08, 2023, 01:32:05 PM
Maybe it's something worse than you can possibly imagine, and everyone at KSU is doing everything in their power to protect the kid.
I feel we're somewhere in this zip code, combined with a well-intended but ultimately incoherent strategy involving Tang's Positive OutlookTM, Linton's Priesthood of Administrative Bureaucracy, and Gene interpreting back and forth.
Post by: catastrophe on December 08, 2023, 01:32:43 PM
Why didn't he just shut the hell up and let Tang's statement stand on its own?
Not that it was probably intentional but this feels like its undermining Tang's statement. Just let it go if you can't give details. It's not helping.
Two words: hot seat.
Post by: chum1 on December 08, 2023, 01:32:57 PM
he didn't get kicked out of college though did he?
Maybe Linton was being generous there.
Post by: doom on December 08, 2023, 01:36:06 PM
dick lint, trying, and failing to CYA
https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=93783
He's not a leader. He should go quietly. Even if Quan couldn't come back, which makes zero sense because we're about to see him playing somewhere in a month, the way he handled this is terrible. Like, what if something serious happens?
Post by: chum1 on December 08, 2023, 01:36:33 PM
Why didn't he just shut the hell up and let Tang's statement stand on its own?
Not that it was probably intentional but this feels like its undermining Tang's statement. Just let it go if you can't give details. It's not helping.
So, you were on board with Tang before, but not now? Maybe Tang's message wasn't as good as we thought it was.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 08, 2023, 01:36:40 PM
he didn't get kicked out of college though did he?
Maybe Linton was being generous there.
if he really did something that bad, i would hope Tang and Gene wouldn't want him back??
What an odd deal. Hopefully the full picture comes out eventually.
Post by: hjfklmor on December 08, 2023, 01:39:22 PM
Why didn't he just shut the hell up and let Tang's statement stand on its own?
Not that it was probably intentional but this feels like its undermining Tang's statement. Just let it go if you can't give details. It's not helping.
So, you were on board with Tang before, but not now? Maybe Tang's message wasn't as good as we thought it was.
Not sure if I'm misunderstanding but I am on board with Tang. I thought his statement was perfect and acted as a great final word. Then Dick Lint decides to chime in twelve hours later.
Post by: catastrophe on December 08, 2023, 01:39:46 PM
dick lint, trying, and failing to CYA
https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=93783
What sucks about this statement is how intentionally vague he is about what he even did in this process. There's no privacy laws stopping you from saying, "Tomlin's dismissal was the result of several conversations among the UP, AD, and HC, and we all agreed on the correct course of action." And if you can't say that--don't release the statement.
Post by: doom on December 08, 2023, 01:40:22 PM
he didn't get kicked out of college though did he?
Maybe Linton was being generous there.
if he really did something that bad, i would hope Tang and Gene wouldn't want him back??
What an odd deal. Hopefully the full picture comes out eventually.
I care more about Linton leaving than a full picture, honestly.
Post by: pissclams on December 08, 2023, 02:23:15 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2023, 02:23:37 PM
He keeps mentioning Title IX, federal law, Ferpa, etc. he really wants us to read between lines, that can’t be made clear, so that we deduce something major as having happened.
Until I hear something more tangible, I am on Team fick that guy for tossing a kid out of college.
Mentioned FERPA and the need to protect the student, then mentioned the student, by name, in the same release. The guy is a buffoon, at best.
Post by: Cire on December 08, 2023, 02:25:09 PM
dick lint, trying, and failing to CYA
https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=93783
What sucks about this statement is how intentionally vague he is about what he even did in this process. There's no privacy laws stopping you from saying, "Tomlin's dismissal was the result of several conversations among the UP, AD, and HC, and we all agreed on the correct course of action." And if you can't say that--don't release the statement.
Micromanagers want the optics that they are in control of everything.
I guarantee that when Tang's video came out, that enraged him so he felt like he needed to have the final say in addressing this issue.
he'll issue something about gene approving messaging through sports or something like that next.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2023, 02:28:26 PM
he didn't get kicked out of college though did he?
Maybe Linton was being generous there.
If whatever he did was bad enough for the university president to mandate that he can't play basketball anymore, he's needs to have an explanation as to why he's allowed Tomlin to remain with the team for weeks/months after his transgression and allowed him to stay on campus. There seems to be no way to spin this without lint looking at the very least inconsistent and incompetent.
Post by: Cire on December 08, 2023, 02:32:19 PM
Maybe he's a bigot and doesn't like Tang and Staff like Kietz
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 08, 2023, 02:32:30 PM
Why didn't he just shut the hell up and let Tang's statement stand on its own?
Not that it was probably intentional but this feels like its undermining Tang's statement. Just let it go if you can't give details. It's n toot helping.
Yeah UP Dick Lint should have let it go, but this points to he's under pressure from people (donors) with means to make his job miserable. This does nothing to protect Tomlin, but only drives speculation of what dreadful thing he must have done for a subsequent minor incident to get him suspended for the bb team (which does have financial considerations, since I assume Tomlin's NIL requires him to be on the team).
Post by: mocat on December 08, 2023, 02:34:19 PM
he didn't get kicked out of college though did he?
Maybe Linton was being generous there.
If whatever he did was bad enough for the university president to mandate that he can't play basketball anymore, he's needs to have an explanation as to why he's allowed Tomlin to remain with the team for weeks/months after his transgression and allowed him to stay on campus. There seems to be no way to spin this without lint looking at the very least inconsistent and incompetent.
yes. i don't see how any new information can rectify this
Post by: pissclams on December 08, 2023, 02:38:02 PM
the quantum computing revolution that our dear tomlin has sparked?he didn't get kicked out of college though did he?
Maybe Linton was being generous there.
If whatever he did was bad enough for the university president to mandate that he can't play basketball anymore, he's needs to have an explanation as to why he's allowed Tomlin to remain with the team for weeks/months after his transgression and allowed him to stay on campus. There seems to be no way to spin this without lint looking at the very least inconsistent and incompetent.
yes. i don't see how any new information can rectify this
Post by: DQ12 on December 08, 2023, 02:43:41 PM
lol, i don't think any of the donors are or were pushing for tomlin's punishment or forcing linton to do anything because that wouldn't make any sense. ridiculous suggestion imo.Why didn't he just shut the hell up and let Tang's statement stand on its own?
Not that it was probably intentional but this feels like its undermining Tang's statement. Just let it go if you can't give details. It's n toot helping.
Yeah UP Dick Lint should have let it go, but this points to he's under pressure from people (donors) with means to make his job miserable. This does nothing to protect Tomlin, but only drives speculation of what dreadful thing he must have done for a subsequent minor incident to get him suspended for the bb team (which does have financial considerations, since I assume Tomlin's NIL requires him to be on the team).
Post by: wayoutwestwillie on December 08, 2023, 02:49:38 PM
lol, i don't think any of the donors are or were pushing for tomlin's punishment or forcing linton to do anything because that wouldn't make any sense. ridiculous suggestion imo.Why didn't he just shut the hell up and let Tang's statement stand on its own?
Not that it was probably intentional but this feels like its undermining Tang's statement. Just let it go if you can't give details. It's n toot helping.
Yeah UP Dick Lint should have let it go, but this points to he's under pressure from people (donors) with means to make his job miserable. This does nothing to protect Tomlin, but only drives speculation of what dreadful thing he must have done for a subsequent minor incident to get him suspended for the bb team (which does have financial considerations, since I assume Tomlin's NIL requires him to be on the team).
dreadful is not: having a verbal argument with your girlfriend at jardine because she thought you were too friendly with another girl.
dreadful is not: having to explain to your coaches why your girlfriend poured bleach on all your bball shoes and gear.
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 08, 2023, 02:50:28 PM
lol, i don't think any of the donors are or were pushing for tomlin's punishment or forcing linton to do anything because that wouldn't make any sense. ridiculous suggestion imo.Why didn't he just shut the hell up and let Tang's statement stand on its own?
Not that it was probably intentional but this feels like its undermining Tang's statement. Just let it go if you can't give details. It's n toot helping.
Yeah UP Dick Lint should have let it go, but this points to he's under pressure from people (donors) with means to make his job miserable. This does nothing to protect Tomlin, but only drives speculation of what dreadful thing he must have done for a subsequent minor incident to get him suspended for the bb team (which does have financial considerations, since I assume Tomlin's NIL requires him to be on the team).
Point wasn't that donors were calling for punishment, but that they were upset UP took action on a decision that should have be left to AD and Tang and that is why Linton felt compelled to release the statement. JFC
Post by: DQ12 on December 08, 2023, 02:55:03 PM
gotcha. i misunderstood. but even if that were true and he was feeling pressure from donors (and I'm sure he is), the statement is still a wild miscalculation that did more harm than good. this was going to blow over after the Tang video. all the statement did was just kickstart another round of people getting pissed off again.lol, i don't think any of the donors are or were pushing for tomlin's punishment or forcing linton to do anything because that wouldn't make any sense. ridiculous suggestion imo.Why didn't he just shut the hell up and let Tang's statement stand on its own?
Not that it was probably intentional but this feels like its undermining Tang's statement. Just let it go if you can't give details. It's n toot helping.
Yeah UP Dick Lint should have let it go, but this points to he's under pressure from people (donors) with means to make his job miserable. This does nothing to protect Tomlin, but only drives speculation of what dreadful thing he must have done for a subsequent minor incident to get him suspended for the bb team (which does have financial considerations, since I assume Tomlin's NIL requires him to be on the team).
Point wasn't that donors were calling for punishment, but that they were upset UP took action on a decision that should have be left to AD and Tang and that is why Linton felt compelled to release the statement. JFC
the handling of this entire situation has been incompetent from the university's side.
Post by: wetwillie on December 08, 2023, 02:58:57 PM
Post by: mocat on December 08, 2023, 02:59:37 PM
lol, i don't think any of the donors are or were pushing for tomlin's punishment or forcing linton to do anything because that wouldn't make any sense. ridiculous suggestion imo.Why didn't he just shut the hell up and let Tang's statement stand on its own?
Not that it was probably intentional but this feels like its undermining Tang's statement. Just let it go if you can't give details. It's n toot helping.
Yeah UP Dick Lint should have let it go, but this points to he's under pressure from people (donors) with means to make his job miserable. This does nothing to protect Tomlin, but only drives speculation of what dreadful thing he must have done for a subsequent minor incident to get him suspended for the bb team (which does have financial considerations, since I assume Tomlin's NIL requires him to be on the team).
dreadful is not: having a verbal argument with your girlfriend at jardine because she thought you were too friendly with another girl.
dreadful is not: having to explain to your coaches why your girlfriend poured bleach on all your bball shoes and gear.
woww, woww
Post by: hjfklmor on December 08, 2023, 02:59:53 PM
gotcha. i misunderstood. but even if that were true and he was feeling pressure from donors (and I'm sure he is), the statement is still a wild miscalculation that did more harm than good. this was going to blow over after the Tang video. all the statement did was just kickstart another round of people getting pissed off again.lol, i don't think any of the donors are or were pushing for tomlin's punishment or forcing linton to do anything because that wouldn't make any sense. ridiculous suggestion imo.Why didn't he just shut the hell up and let Tang's statement stand on its own?
Not that it was probably intentional but this feels like its undermining Tang's statement. Just let it go if you can't give details. It's not helping.
Yeah UP Dick Lint should have let it go, but this points to he's under pressure from people (donors) with means to make his job miserable. This does nothing to protect Tomlin, but only drives speculation of what dreadful thing he must have done for a subsequent minor incident to get him suspended for the bb team (which does have financial considerations, since I assume Tomlin's NIL requires him to be on the team).
Point wasn't that donors were calling for punishment, but that they were upset UP took action on a decision that should have be left to AD and Tang and that is why Linton felt compelled to release the statement. JFC
the handling of this entire situation has been incompetent from the university's side.
Exactly. The majority of people don't know who the hell the university president is or what he does, and they would have gone right back to not knowing. All he had to do was shut the hell up and this would have gone away.
We look like dumbasses who don't communicate between the university and athletics, which I'm starting to think is probably very accurate.
Post by: Pete on December 08, 2023, 04:25:45 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on December 08, 2023, 04:42:49 PM
Is anyone else concerned that if Tomlin transfers to another school that it will clearly show that nothing bad happened and that this is all Linton’s fault and then probably entire student body will show up at his house?
With the information vacuum being what it is, I think you have to assume that Tomlin transferring and playing at a reputable institution is pretty damning for our admin.
Post by: Pete on December 08, 2023, 04:48:26 PM
Could be disastrous for themIs anyone else concerned that if Tomlin transfers to another school that it will clearly show that nothing bad happened and that this is all Linton’s fault and then probably entire student body will show up at his house?
With the information vacuum being what it is, I think you have to assume that Tomlin transferring and playing at a reputable institution is pretty damning for our admin.
Post by: CNS on December 08, 2023, 04:55:10 PM
Why didn't he just shut the hell up and let Tang's statement stand on its own?
Not that it was probably intentional but this feels like its undermining Tang's statement. Just let it go if you can't give details. It's not helping.
Weak egos wanting to look strong
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 08, 2023, 05:02:27 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2023, 05:28:13 PM
Do you think this had anything to do with Ngongba not coming here? He was wabashing his ass off at that game with Nae'quan earlier in the day. I believe the incident happened that night? I could be mistaken though.No.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 08, 2023, 06:15:49 PM
Left to a few trolls on social media to bring up now and again. There's no Title IX implications, the feds aren't going to be busting down the doors . . . it would have all just gone away, outside of a few commentators talking about NT's progression after the suspension . . . all gone away and long forgotten. Sure the president needs to act by NCAA by-laws. The president acted, investigated, agreed with his staff, and allowed reinstatement. It all just goes away. Can't talk about it, FERPA. It all just goes away. Everybody is happy, NT does his time, it all just goes away.
:frown:
Post by: catastrophe on December 08, 2023, 06:24:17 PM
And the “Aggieville bar incident.”He keeps mentioning Title IX, federal law, Ferpa, etc. he really wants us to read between lines, that can’t be made clear, so that we deduce something major as having happened.
Until I hear something more tangible, I am on Team fick that guy for tossing a kid out of college.
Mentioned FERPA and the need to protect the student, then mentioned the student, by name, in the same release. The guy is a buffoon, at best.
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 08, 2023, 07:56:23 PM
Post by: Woogy on December 08, 2023, 08:05:45 PM
Could be disastrous for themIs anyone else concerned that if Tomlin transfers to another school that it will clearly show that nothing bad happened and that this is all Linton’s fault and then probably entire student body will show up at his house?
With the information vacuum being what it is, I think you have to assume that Tomlin transferring and playing at a reputable institution is pretty damning for our admin.
I'm convincing myself that, while painful in the moment, this is the path leading to the best of what are increasingly looking to be bad outcomes. Rip the band aid and all.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 08, 2023, 08:51:44 PM
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Post by: Pete on December 09, 2023, 09:24:20 AM
Starting to think our university president is a huge dumbass.You say that now, but wait until our food science department starts winning awards.
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 09, 2023, 10:04:27 AM
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 09, 2023, 12:07:38 PM
Sometimes I think (some of) you guys would trade our myriad soil judging national championships for a football or basketball national championship and that’s just really pathetic imoYeah, I'd sign on to that in a minute, and anyone who actually has that opinion is dumb even by tuck standards.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 09, 2023, 03:01:08 PM
Okay, which of you gE’ers hung this up over our tunnel the last minute of the game?? Lmao the players ran past it into the lockerroom. Almost positive that’s Testy Westy verbiage but I didn’t see him and it would’ve been pretty easy to spot him given that there were 50 people in this arena.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 09, 2023, 03:08:42 PM
Post by: Tobias on December 09, 2023, 03:10:11 PM
Post by: wetwillie on December 09, 2023, 03:11:03 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 09, 2023, 03:15:35 PM
Missed opportunity to use Dick LintAnd the use of the word "fire."
Post by: Houstoncat93 on December 09, 2023, 03:30:29 PM
1. We don't have enough first-hand information to really know if he should have been dismissed. If I had to guess I would say that he probably did not do anything that rises to that level or we would have heard rumors of what they are by now.
2. Linton does not have the leadership skills to lead an organization the size and complexity of Kansas State. His PR instincts are horrible. There was no reason to have comms on this issue be AD, then coach, then Pres on different days. He should have go authored the released statement and then been enough of a leader to let Tang calm things down, if needed. Even if is just a chicken-crap and wants the AD to take the heat he should be smart enough to not speak after Tang calmed the situation. Sometimes the best thing a leader can do is just shut the eff-up. He needs to go.
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 09, 2023, 05:28:03 PM
After all this shitshow I guess I have boiled my thoughts down to two conclusions.
1. We don't have enough first-hand information to really know if he should have been dismissed. If I had to guess I would say that he probably did not do anything that rises to that level or we would have heard rumors of what they are by now.
2. Linton does not have the leadership skills to lead an organization the size and complexity of Kansas State. His PR instincts are horrible. There was no reason to have comms on this issue be AD, then coach, then Pres on different days. He should have go authored the released statement and then been enough of a leader to let Tang calm things down, if needed. Even if is just a chicken-crap and wants the AD to take the heat he should be smart enough to not speak after Tang calmed the situation. Sometimes the best thing a leader can do is just shut the eff-up. He needs to go.
The actions we know Linton took in in the situation, doesn't lend confidence that he made the right choices thoughout the process.
Post by: catastrophe on December 09, 2023, 05:31:09 PM
Post by: Pete on December 09, 2023, 05:42:00 PM
Post by: CNS on December 09, 2023, 06:20:50 PM
If this isn’t that, then this was done due to preference. If this was preference, this should be a fireable offense for a president.
Post by: wetwillie on December 09, 2023, 06:24:57 PM
Post by: Trim on December 09, 2023, 10:20:39 PM
https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/k-state-fails-tomlin-teammates-coaches-and-fans-with-dismissal-decision/article_8eb67244-1420-5f3d-87a4-c7e5d2a8ddb1.html
https://themercury.com/opinion/from-the-publisher-the-tomlin-information-vacuum/article_c7e33565-26bb-574b-b01d-7c5eb3da48f1.html
https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/columns/from-the-publisher-richard-linton-is-not-an-idiot/article_4005320b-95c0-501a-b868-0ee407b0e21d.html
https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/tang-linton-emphasize-unity-in-responses-to-tomlins-dismissal/article_ad97ff58-2382-50b4-8523-c871119231b8.html
Post by: chum1 on December 09, 2023, 10:48:43 PM
We will know all we need to know if other schools want Tomlin.
I think this is an incorrect view. He broke our rules, not theirs.
Post by: catastrophe on December 09, 2023, 10:51:02 PM
Post by: catastrophe on December 09, 2023, 10:52:50 PM
Who GAF, though? If it’s not a legal or academic issue, Tang should be the one making the call. And if we know anything here, it’s that Tang didn’t make this decision.We will know all we need to know if other schools want Tomlin.
I think this is an incorrect view. He broke our rules, not theirs.
Post by: chum1 on December 09, 2023, 10:53:31 PM
1. Agreeing with Fitz never sits well with me.
2. I don't want to be like cringy K-State twitter.
3. HOT TAKE: We really don't NEED Tomlin that much.
4. If Tang says to be cool, I'll be cool.
Post by: michigancat on December 09, 2023, 10:56:30 PM
And if we know anything here, it’s that Tang didn’t make this decision.
Do we KNOW that?
Post by: catastrophe on December 09, 2023, 11:01:49 PM
Tang acknowledging making the call would by far be the easiest way to diffuse the situation. Unless you believe Tang, GT, AND Lipton are all idiots, then yeah it’s safe to assume Tang didn’t make the call.And if we know anything here, it’s that Tang didn’t make this decision.
Do we KNOW that?
Post by: Trim on December 09, 2023, 11:10:44 PM
We will know all we need to know if other schools want Tomlin.
The squawks wanted and got that guy who’d assaulted a girl at texas, and then he assaulted and raped a girl at ku.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 09, 2023, 11:12:30 PM
Post by: Tobias on December 09, 2023, 11:13:37 PM
Post by: Spracne on December 09, 2023, 11:14:43 PM
We will know all we need to know if other schools want Tomlin.
The squawks wanted and got that guy who’d assaulted a girl at texas, and then he assaulted and raped a girl at ku.
which is why KU can't take him
Post by: Trim on December 09, 2023, 11:15:23 PM
i won't even be mad if naeqwan dunks on us 10x at afh/bramlage, might be fun
I’d probably watch this basketlol game.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 09, 2023, 11:28:37 PM
right. really doesn't mean dick that other schools want him. Still a KITN we will face him this season though.
I don't think he'll stay in the Big 12
Post by: MakeItRain on December 09, 2023, 11:29:26 PM
We will know all we need to know if other schools want Tomlin.
The squawks wanted and got that guy who’d assaulted a girl at texas, and then he assaulted and raped a girl at ku.
which is why KU can't take him
Come on, man.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 09, 2023, 11:32:40 PM
My thoughts:
1. Agreeing with Fitz never sits well with me.
2. I don't want to be like cringy K-State twitter.
A broken clock is right twice a day. No need to be counter here, I'll restate what HoustonCat already said, whatever NaeQuan did or didn't do is irrelevant to how badly dick lint mumped this up.
Post by: cfbandyman on December 10, 2023, 12:19:10 AM
1. K-State Twitter/X for the most part sucks ass and should stfu
2. Dick lint is a weirdo. I hate how many presidents since Weifald we've gone through but this is so dumb. I'm tired of us punishing people for stuff and being weird about it instead of just like, if they did something wrong just set a punishment and move on
Post by: michigancat on December 10, 2023, 07:15:24 AM
Post by: catastrophe on December 10, 2023, 08:27:23 AM
I don't know what a UP does in their day-to-day but this seems like a fringe case that doesn't necessarily indicate how well they would do everything else. (I could be wrong! And it certainly doesn't inspire confidence)Well I know he represents the entire university on a bunch of important stuff.
The things he mumped up in this case aren’t unique to basketball.
1. Failing to work collaboratively with other important decision makers (if you believe the rumors)
2. Failing to appropriately message the decision made (regardless of rumor)
3. Failing to take any accountability for his role in the process (he still hasn’t said what the hell he actually did or didn’t do)
4. Lack of transparency overall
Post by: michigancat on December 10, 2023, 08:46:03 AM
I don't know what a UP does in their day-to-day but this seems like a fringe case that doesn't necessarily indicate how well they would do everything else. (I could be wrong! And it certainly doesn't inspire confidence)Well I know he represents the entire university on a bunch of important stuff.
The things he mumped up in this case aren’t unique to basketball.
1. Failing to work collaboratively with other important decision makers (if you believe the rumors)
2. Failing to appropriately message the decision made (regardless of rumor)
3. Failing to take any accountability for his role in the process (he still hasn’t said what the hell he actually did or didn’t do)
4. Lack of transparency overall
I get all that but I am not convinced that how he handled this very bizarre situation is necessarily the best indicator of how well he does as UP. I mean UP's don't always do their best in odd situations (the congressional hearings this week are a good example). It might be a good indicator though!
Post by: CNS on December 10, 2023, 09:26:22 AM
This “issue” apparently passed the two filters of AD and HC. So he is basically representing that those two filters didn’t do their jobs or that he micromanages his highly paid and highly responsible managers.
It basically has to be one of those two things if you believe Dick: 1. Either his employees can’t do the job or 2. He is a micromanager.
Post by: Pete on December 10, 2023, 09:45:57 AM
And suffered zero negative consequences (athletically).We will know all we need to know if other schools want Tomlin.
The squawks wanted and got that guy who’d assaulted a girl at texas, and then he assaulted and raped a girl at ku.
Post by: Pete on December 10, 2023, 09:47:41 AM
AgreeMy thoughts:
1. Agreeing with Fitz never sits well with me.
2. I don't want to be like cringy K-State twitter.
A broken clock is right twice a day. No need to be counter here, I'll restate what HoustonCat already said, whatever NaeQuan did or didn't do is irrelevant to how badly dick lint mumped this up.
AND, if another school accepts Tomlin we have further indication of poor judgment on dick linton’s part.
Post by: Pete on December 10, 2023, 09:48:24 AM
Post by: wetwillie on December 10, 2023, 09:49:58 AM
Post by: catastrophe on December 10, 2023, 09:54:07 AM
Klieman sent Risons kid packing and he never even got formally charged. We probably have two of the least tolerant to crap behavior coaches in P5 revenue sports.If it were Tang’s call in this instance there would be zero issues. The fact Tang hasn’t said as much by this point pretty much confirms it was not his decision.
Post by: wetwillie on December 10, 2023, 10:47:05 AM
Klieman sent Risons kid packing and he never even got formally charged. We probably have two of the least tolerant to crap behavior coaches in P5 revenue sports.If it were Tang’s call in this instance there would be zero issues. The fact Tang hasn’t said as much by this point pretty much confirms it was not his decision.
Yea I'm saying the need for admin to step in to save our university from bad actors on the football and basketball teams is non existent. If you can't trust Klieman and Tang to handle personnel issues then who the hell can you trust.
Post by: Trim on December 10, 2023, 01:50:17 PM
Post by: OlatheWildcat on December 10, 2023, 02:05:52 PM
Post by: doom on December 11, 2023, 07:28:45 AM
Kstate twitter nearly has me convinced that dick lint is the goat ksu prez.
If the g stands for grossest, then yes.
Post by: ChiComCat on December 11, 2023, 09:25:31 AM
Post by: wetwillie on December 11, 2023, 09:46:34 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on December 11, 2023, 09:50:49 AM
How many legit programs have an open scholly in Jan? That seems to be a big constraint.
Perhaps, but I think NIL can cover the scholly cost with the right program.
Post by: michigancat on December 11, 2023, 09:55:56 AM
Tomlins absolutely going to a legit P5 program.
Do you know something or speculating?
Post by: wetwillie on December 11, 2023, 10:01:50 AM
How many legit programs have an open scholly in Jan? That seems to be a big constraint.
Perhaps, but I think NIL can cover the scholly cost with the right program.
You can't go from a scholly player to a non scholly player and play immediately. That's why we had to get a waiver for Knuth to play in the bowl game.
Post by: doom on December 11, 2023, 10:22:11 AM
Post by: Spracne on December 11, 2023, 10:23:23 AM
Tomlins absolutely going to a legit P5 program.
Do you know something or speculating?
I saw some internet rumors about Mich. State.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 11, 2023, 10:42:58 AM
Tomlins absolutely going to a legit P5 program.
Do you know something or speculating?
It's basketball so ChiCat, should have said P6 program, plus high major programs outside of the P6, like Memphis. It's a given, he would be a top 25 player if he was a on cycle portal player.
He's in Memphis, will likely go there.
I bet he'll take multiple visits.
Post by: michigancat on December 11, 2023, 10:54:17 AM
Tomlins absolutely going to a legit P5 program.
Do you know something or speculating?
It's basketball so ChiCat, should have said P6 program, plus high major programs outside of the P6, like Memphis. It's a given, he would be a top 25 player if he was a on cycle portal player.
Oh I have no doubt about his ability, I was questioning if what got him kicked off the team might be a factor
Post by: ChiComCat on December 11, 2023, 11:26:20 AM
Yeah, P5 may not be correct but he's going to a legit program.
Post by: doom on December 11, 2023, 12:21:44 PM
Tomlins absolutely going to a legit P5 program.
Do you know something or speculating?
It's basketball so ChiCat, should have said P6 program, plus high major programs outside of the P6, like Memphis. It's a given, he would be a top 25 player if he was a on cycle portal player.He's in Memphis, will likely go there.
I bet he'll take multiple visits.
He may, but I think he'll go to Memphis. https://gotigersgo.com/staff-directory/jordan-verhulst/2632 (https://gotigersgo.com/staff-directory/jordan-verhulst/2632)
Post by: OlatheWildcat on December 11, 2023, 12:32:51 PM
Okay….
Post by: IPA4Me on December 11, 2023, 12:58:28 PM
Post by: wetwillie on December 11, 2023, 01:19:41 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 11, 2023, 01:20:10 PM
I'm speculating. No way he did anything bad enough to keep him away from another program. It took KSU way too long to do anything, they only did something when the president's feelings got hurt, the cops laughed the charges off, and it's all been kept secret enough even if his dismissal was somehow warranted. There's not near enough there to scare away any teams, imo.
Yeah, P5 may not be correct but he's going to a legit program.
He didn't get kicked off because the president's feelings got hurt
Post by: Trim on December 11, 2023, 01:33:03 PM
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Tomlin just recently graduated, so eligibility isn’t a concern.
I know it’s way deep into the new normal, but kind of lol that already having graduated from college is a key indicator of being eligible to play COLLEGE basketball.
Post by: ChiComCat on December 11, 2023, 01:33:41 PM
What else changed over that week?I'm speculating. No way he did anything bad enough to keep him away from another program. It took KSU way too long to do anything, they only did something when the president's feelings got hurt, the cops laughed the charges off, and it's all been kept secret enough even if his dismissal was somehow warranted. There's not near enough there to scare away any teams, imo.
Yeah, P5 may not be correct but he's going to a legit program.
He didn't get kicked off because the president's feelings got hurt
Post by: michigancat on December 11, 2023, 01:52:12 PM
What else changed over that week?I'm speculating. No way he did anything bad enough to keep him away from another program. It took KSU way too long to do anything, they only did something when the president's feelings got hurt, the cops laughed the charges off, and it's all been kept secret enough even if his dismissal was somehow warranted. There's not near enough there to scare away any teams, imo.
Yeah, P5 may not be correct but he's going to a legit program.
He didn't get kicked off because the president's feelings got hurt
I don't think that anything changed, but I think it's far more nuanced than people have been speculating. I think I just need to stay out of it and let 3maw and Fitz get everyone fired up
Post by: doom on December 11, 2023, 01:55:16 PM
Let me get this straight, he’s a top big man that’s a mid year transfer. He was linked with top schools late last week. And he’ll visit and probably land with Memphis?
Okay….
True.
Post by: ChiComCat on December 11, 2023, 03:31:07 PM
I don't think that anything changed, but I think it's far more nuanced than people have been speculating. I think I just need to stay out of it and let 3maw and Fitz get everyone fired up
I haven't been adamant that he needed to play or anything. What I heard about the Tubby's incident made it potentially bad enough that sitting for awhile could've been justified. I do think it's horseshit that they decided he needed to be booted from the team immediately after students protested.
While Fitz may not be the greatest journalist, I can't think of a news story he would be better positioned for than one involving the athletic department and Tubby's. Granted, the third and key piece of the President's office may still elude him.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 11, 2023, 06:06:34 PM
I don't think that anything changed, but I think it's far more nuanced than people have been speculating. I think I just need to stay out of it and let 3maw and Fitz get everyone fired up
I haven't been adamant that he needed to play or anything. What I heard about the Tubby's incident made it potentially bad enough that sitting for awhile could've been justified. I do think it's horseshit that they decided he needed to be booted from the team immediately after students protested.
While Fitz may not be the greatest journalist, I can't think of a news story he would be better positioned for than one involving the athletic department and Tubby's. Granted, the third and key piece of the President's office may still elude him.
:lol:
Post by: CHONGS on December 12, 2023, 08:06:32 AM
Post by: CNS on December 12, 2023, 08:21:09 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 12, 2023, 08:26:12 AM
incredible bit of prose right thereI don't think that anything changed, but I think it's far more nuanced than people have been speculating. I think I just need to stay out of it and let 3maw and Fitz get everyone fired up
I haven't been adamant that he needed to play or anything. What I heard about the Tubby's incident made it potentially bad enough that sitting for awhile could've been justified. I do think it's horseshit that they decided he needed to be booted from the team immediately after students protested.
While Fitz may not be the greatest journalist, I can't think of a news story he would be better positioned for than one involving the athletic department and Tubby's. Granted, the third and key piece of the President's office may still elude him.
:lol:
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 12, 2023, 08:43:48 AM
Post by: Trim on December 12, 2023, 09:48:25 AM
Post by: Spracne on December 12, 2023, 10:29:38 AM
You know who's seemed pretty unbothered by all this? Tomlin.
Just because he's been quiet doesn't mean he's unbothered. I imagine he's very bothered by getting his name and reputation impugned in such a manner. The question itself is the stigma.
Post by: catastrophe on December 12, 2023, 10:32:24 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 12, 2023, 10:36:06 AM
I’m sure he’s happy to move on regardless. Either he felt the admin screwed him by benching him at all and is not on good terms, or he at least agreed with that piece of it and is ready to start fresh.Hope he has nothing but success at Memphis.
Now Cat fans must dedicate themselves to converting the OOD into an Octagon of Love that Tang and Co will be unable to bring themselves to leave despite any differences they have with admin.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 12, 2023, 11:14:11 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 12, 2023, 11:17:35 AM
Now that he is signed, let’s get him commenting on what happened.
He's not going to say anything. He's not innocent, he definitely did crap, dick lint rough ridin' up his job is the story here and I don't think NaeQuan is going to address that.
Post by: stunted on December 12, 2023, 11:28:16 AM
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 12, 2023, 01:17:10 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 12, 2023, 01:22:07 PM
Imagine getting a talent like Nae'Quan at midseason. One love.
we had Bill Walker join mid-year. what an amazing couple of weeks.
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 12, 2023, 05:44:21 PM
Post by: Pete on December 12, 2023, 07:04:20 PM
Post by: Spracne on December 24, 2023, 09:28:57 AM
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Heard an interesting rumor from someone who is pretty close to a lot of folks at KSU. Alledgedly Tomlin picked up a chick and took her home only to find out she was a he. He freaked and punched them in the face. Seems far-fetched but who knows. I agree that it sure seems there has to be more to this than simply a Univ. Pres deciding they wanted the kid gone.
Post by: wetwillie on December 24, 2023, 09:30:41 AM
Post by: Spracne on December 24, 2023, 09:47:59 AM
You are better than that spracs
Better than what?
Post by: steve dave on December 24, 2023, 10:10:47 AM
Good lord who makes this crap up, awful. I know it wasn’t you spacs, obviously.QuoteHeard an interesting rumor from someone who is pretty close to a lot of folks at KSU. Alledgedly Tomlin picked up a chick and took her home only to find out she was a he. He freaked and punched them in the face. Seems far-fetched but who knows. I agree that it sure seems there has to be more to this than simply a Univ. Pres deciding they wanted the kid gone.
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Post by: IPA4Me on December 24, 2023, 10:35:43 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 24, 2023, 10:39:40 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 24, 2023, 02:06:55 PM
You are better than that spracs
Better than what?
wetwillie knows that isn't your rumor, I'm pretty sure he's questioning your judgement in continuing to spread it around, even in a mocking manner. People believe stupid crap on the internet everyday. Gary Parish, maybe most locked in college basketball beat writer, was on 810 two weeks ago giving air to ridiculous rumors started on KU twitter and message boards.
I know better but I hope that post was widely condemned.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 24, 2023, 03:14:59 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 24, 2023, 04:05:59 PM
Post by: Spracne on December 24, 2023, 04:07:30 PM
This is from the Phog hoops board, so no condemnation. Mostly just mocking, although one of the worst KU fans online (Dr. J) said he heard a similar story, and he wasn’t joking (too dumb). Dr. J is a crazy person, tho.You are better than that spracs
Better than what?
wetwillie knows that isn't your rumor, I'm pretty sure he's questioning your judgement in continuing to spread it around, even in a mocking manner. People believe stupid crap on the internet everyday. Gary Parish, maybe most locked in college basketball beat writer, was on 810 two weeks ago giving air to ridiculous rumors started on KU twitter and message boards.
I know better but I hope that post was widely condemned.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 24, 2023, 04:09:36 PM
Post by: nicname on December 24, 2023, 04:19:08 PM
Dr J is one of the most unhinged bbs'rs I've ever encountered and I spend a lot of time on texags
In close running for most unhinged with luvthatblue
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 24, 2023, 06:21:27 PM
They all wanna be gE but just can't do it right.
This. When you are dumb, but try really hard, that is the result.
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 30, 2023, 08:22:18 PM
edit: 23 minutes.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 31, 2023, 08:11:29 AM
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Post by: EMAWzifried on December 31, 2023, 01:54:54 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on January 02, 2024, 09:13:41 AM
The student section chanting "firing Dick Lint"as one during all home games might help.
Tang will just tell them to knock it off
Post by: PurpleOil on January 03, 2024, 03:56:45 PM
The student section chanting "firing Dick Lint"as one during all home games might help.
Tang will just tell them to knock it off
Tang only has power as long as he wins. If he starts losing, the students will stop listening.
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Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2024, 09:20:11 PM
:lol:I couldn’t bring myself to read it, just embarrassed (again) for my university
Post by: chum1 on March 21, 2024, 09:31:15 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 21, 2024, 09:34:58 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2024, 09:49:35 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 21, 2024, 09:54:09 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on March 22, 2024, 12:11:41 AM
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2024, 07:04:39 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 22, 2024, 08:15:39 AM
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2024, 08:24:21 AM
At what point did Tang and or Tomlin know that Tomlin was never going to be allowed to play again?
The article I read yesterday had a quote from Linton stating that he, tang, and Gene were all in agreement as of the incident happening, back in October.
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2024, 08:27:43 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 22, 2024, 09:22:15 AM
Back at the time, I was under the impression that Tang believed there was a path to Tomlin getting back on the court for the Cats.At what point did Tang and or Tomlin know that Tomlin was never going to be allowed to play again?
The article I read yesterday had a quote from Linton stating that he, tang, and Gene were all in agreement as of the incident happening, back in October.
Post by: LickNeckey on March 22, 2024, 09:29:42 AM
At what point did Tang and or Tomlin know that Tomlin was never going to be allowed to play again?
The article I read yesterday had a quote from Linton stating that he, tang, and Gene were all in agreement as of the incident happening, back in October.
As i understand the situation Tomlin was given an ultimatum concerning his behavior (by Gene, Prez, and Tang) and given his "last chance" after a series of events that stemmed from a toxic relationship with his girlfriend. The evening after receiving this "ultimatum" he was arrested outside of Tubby's. That event and the proximity to the discussion created the point of no return.
Further investigation into the matter seemed to indicate that his arrest by RCPD may have been an unnecessary step given the nature of the situation. This gave Tang and Gene the hope that Tomlin may have not violated the terms of the "ultimatum". That however is not how Linton viewed the situation and the agreement that had been put in place.
Post by: Cire on March 22, 2024, 09:31:39 AM
within a VERY VERY VERY short period of time he's arrested for "brawling" but never faces any punishments and seems like he's basically clear of instigating/wrongdoing quickly after.
Athletics thinks that he's OK and still has one more strike.
Pres operates under assumption that he's done after aggieville and they aren't on the same page.
Post by: Cire on March 22, 2024, 09:32:10 AM
At what point did Tang and or Tomlin know that Tomlin was never going to be allowed to play again?
The article I read yesterday had a quote from Linton stating that he, tang, and Gene were all in agreement as of the incident happening, back in October.
As i understand the situation Tomlin was given an ultimatum concerning his behavior (by Gene, Prez, and Tang) and given his "last chance" after a series of events that stemmed from a toxic relationship with his girlfriend. The evening after receiving this "ultimatum" he was arrested outside of Tubby's. That event and the proximity to the discussion created the point of no return.
Further investigation into the matter seemed to indicate that his arrest by RCPD may have been an unnecessary step given the nature of the situation. This gave Tang and Gene the hope that Tomlin may have not violated the terms of the "ultimatum". That however is not how Linton viewed the situation and the agreement that had been put in place.
this is how I read it as well.
Post by: pissclams on March 22, 2024, 09:52:11 AM
I assume this is pres trying to remind tang that he doesn’t want him here.https://twitter.com/coachreem4ever/status/1770914372035994035?s=46&t=lwfIEH6RtBPJuhAZrJcdZg
Post by: Spracne on March 22, 2024, 10:09:42 AM
NT has issues to the point that Pres tells athletics that 1 more time and he's done
within a VERY VERY VERY short period of time he's arrested for "brawling" but never faces any punishments and seems like he's basically clear of instigating/wrongdoing quickly after.
Athletics thinks that he's OK and still has one more strike.
Pres operates under assumption that he's done after aggieville and they aren't on the same page.
That's not true that he never faced punishment. He was charged with a diversion.
Post by: Trim on March 22, 2024, 10:24:36 AM
Post by: waks on March 22, 2024, 10:26:59 AM
Post by: catastrophe on March 22, 2024, 11:11:20 AM
For those who don’t have their Bibles memorized (couldn’t be me):I assume this is pres trying to remind tang that he doesn’t want him here.https://twitter.com/coachreem4ever/status/1770914372035994035?s=46&t=lwfIEH6RtBPJuhAZrJcdZg
Quote
Faithful are the wounds of a friend,
But the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
Also I have no idea what that means.
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2024, 11:21:50 AM
For those who don’t have their Bibles memorized (couldn’t be me):I assume this is pres trying to remind tang that he doesn’t want him here.https://twitter.com/coachreem4ever/status/1770914372035994035?s=46&t=lwfIEH6RtBPJuhAZrJcdZgQuoteFaithful are the wounds of a friend,
But the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
Also I have no idea what that means.
It means that all of our remaining players are shooting guards.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 22, 2024, 11:25:03 AM
I think most Bible -readers take it to mean something along the lines of "It is better to have a friend tell you something that is true but hard to hear than to be flattered by an enemy." In this context, I think his meaning is "I'm thankful that I have friends who point me toward the right path."For those who don’t have their Bibles memorized (couldn’t be me):I assume this is pres trying to remind tang that he doesn’t want him here.https://twitter.com/coachreem4ever/status/1770914372035994035?s=46&t=lwfIEH6RtBPJuhAZrJcdZgQuoteFaithful are the wounds of a friend,
But the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
Also I have no idea what that means.
Just my $0.02.
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2024, 11:25:10 AM
Post by: AzCat on March 22, 2024, 12:54:04 PM
I think most Bible -readers take it to mean something along the lines of "It is better to have a friend tell you something that is true but hard to hear than to be flattered by an enemy." In this context, I think his meaning is "I'm thankful that I have friends who point me toward the right path."For those who don’t have their Bibles memorized (couldn’t be me):I assume this is pres trying to remind tang that he doesn’t want him here.https://twitter.com/coachreem4ever/status/1770914372035994035?s=46&t=lwfIEH6RtBPJuhAZrJcdZgQuoteFaithful are the wounds of a friend,
But the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
Also I have no idea what that means.
Just my $0.02.
The friend is Tang. The hard truth is that it's time for them to GTFO of Manhattan before the east-coast academic with little man syndrome sitting in the university president's office makes it impossible for them to succeed here. Or that it's already too late.
Post by: OB_Won on March 22, 2024, 01:00:17 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 22, 2024, 01:11:11 PM
Is this all being released again because our administration is trying to get out in front of Tang leaving?occam’s razor
Post by: pissclams on March 22, 2024, 01:12:39 PM
also it gives us something to freak out aboutIs this all being released again because our administration is trying to get out in front of Tang leaving?occam’s razor
Post by: AzCat on March 22, 2024, 01:14:42 PM
Is this all being released again because our administration is trying to get out in front of Tang leaving?occam’s razor
In other words:
(https://americandigest.org/magic-8-ball-all-signs-point-to-yes.jpg)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 22, 2024, 01:16:39 PM
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Post by: Pete on March 23, 2024, 09:08:57 AM