Post by: GregKSU1027 on September 06, 2022, 10:48:54 AM
This week we welcome (meh, not really) the dorks from across the river back into our lovely state's borders back to the best conference that they once abandoned to become an ok kinda bad football team.
This week's chant is simply:
EFF MIZ-ZOU
[/b]Got it?! Simple but effective. Figure it out students, get jiggy with it.
Post by: surly on September 06, 2022, 11:45:42 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on September 06, 2022, 11:46:20 AM
ass clowns like you will put "the wabash" away just as you did sandstorm. congrats for being so thoroughly ignorant and embarrassing to k-state.This is a family board, surly, calm the heck down.
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Post by: Houstoncat93 on September 06, 2022, 02:53:42 PM
This is a family board, surly, calm the heck down.
a*s clowns like you will put "the wabash" away just as you did sandstorm. congrats for being so thoroughly ignorant and embarrassing to k-state.
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Post by: MadCat on September 06, 2022, 03:30:02 PM
SameThis is a family board, surly, calm the heck down.
a*s clowns like you will put "the wabash" away just as you did sandstorm. congrats for being so thoroughly ignorant and embarra*sing to k-state.
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Post by: Winters on September 06, 2022, 04:24:02 PM
ass clowns like you will put "the wabash" away just as you did sandstorm. congrats for being so thoroughly ignorant and embarrassing to k-state.Being an ignorant, ZEAL filled maniac is an absolute blast though :emawkid:
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2022, 04:27:02 PM
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Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2022, 09:12:20 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on September 06, 2022, 10:55:14 PM
https://twitter.com/landonian87/status/1567323038563041282?t=rXOT6Cml1_G743V7bdx0mg&s=19
which part are they saying eff ku? are they swapping it for the kkkkkkkk sssssssss uuuuuuuuuuuu at the end? or is it like ba bup bup budah bupahhh ba bup bup eff ku dinna dut dut dah, dadada, dibbadibba eff ku and so on?
Post by: DQ12 on September 06, 2022, 11:34:04 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2022, 01:35:34 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2022, 08:34:02 AM
Stupid on both sides
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what part of it is stupid from the band side of things
Post by: OK_Cat on September 07, 2022, 08:34:51 AM
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Post by: Trim on September 07, 2022, 08:51:12 AM
Quote
“The first time we hear ‘The Chant’ from now on at a football game we will no longer play Wabash during that game until the students decide to mature and realize they’re ruining the best game day tradition in the country,” one K-State band member said.
The song ‘Sandstorm’ has been played very rarely at games in recent years due to the same chant. K-State’s new head basketball coach Jerome Tang recently called for it to stop on social media.
Tracz and the band are encouraging K-State students to change their chant to ‘K-S-U’ so the long standing tradition can remain in place.
“The Pride [of Wildcat Land] is not going to support and be a vessel for that type of speech,” the band member who spoke to 27 News said.
Another source says Tracz doesn’t want K-State to be known for disrespecting another school.
https://www.ksnt.com/sports/kansas-state-wildcats/k-states-wabash-cannonball-tradition-could-be-going-away/
Post by: DQ12 on September 07, 2022, 09:00:03 AM
I hate old ass men making excuses for it even more than I hate the people chanting eff ku at the worst college football program in all of those idiots lifetimes.Yeah, that's really pathetic and frustrating. I feel 1000 years old when I gripe about this, but come on. There's a time and place I'm OK with that chant. During the Wabash against South Dakota definitely ain't it.
Post by: OK_Cat on September 07, 2022, 09:00:42 AM
LOL rampage.Someone tell that nerd that literally nobody but band parents go to a football game to watch the band.Quote“The first time we hear ‘The Chant’ from now on at a football game we will no longer play Wabash during that game until the students decide to mature and realize they’re ruining the best game day tradition in the country,” one K-State band member said.
The song ‘Sandstorm’ has been played very rarely at games in recent years due to the same chant. K-State’s new head basketball coach Jerome Tang recently called for it to stop on social media.
Tracz and the band are encouraging K-State students to change their chant to ‘K-S-U’ so the long standing tradition can remain in place.
“The Pride [of Wildcat Land] is not going to support and be a vessel for that type of speech,” the band member who spoke to 27 News said.
Another source says Tracz doesn’t want K-State to be known for disrespecting another school.
https://www.ksnt.com/sports/kansas-state-wildcats/k-states-wabash-cannonball-tradition-could-be-going-away/
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Post by: OK_Cat on September 07, 2022, 09:01:39 AM
Hey, fellow old guys, we did stupid crap in college, it’s their turn. It doesn’t hurt anything.I hate old ass men making excuses for it even more than I hate the people chanting eff ku at the worst college football program in all of those idiots lifetimes.Yeah, that's really pathetic and frustrating. I feel 1000 years old when I gripe about this, but come on. There's a time and place I'm OK with that chant. During the Wabash against South Dakota definitely ain't it.
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Post by: DQ12 on September 07, 2022, 09:03:07 AM
It does hurt things.Hey, fellow old guys, we did stupid crap in college, it’s their turn. It doesn’t hurt anything.I hate old ass men making excuses for it even more than I hate the people chanting eff ku at the worst college football program in all of those idiots lifetimes.Yeah, that's really pathetic and frustrating. I feel 1000 years old when I gripe about this, but come on. There's a time and place I'm OK with that chant. During the Wabash against South Dakota definitely ain't it.
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Because these geniuses can't help but chant swear words I don't get to hear the Wabash during football games, and I like hearing the wabash during football games. Pretty linear, imo.
Post by: OK_Cat on September 07, 2022, 09:05:04 AM
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Post by: GregKSU1027 on September 07, 2022, 09:07:41 AM
ass clowns like you will put "the wabash" away just as you did sandstorm. congrats for being so thoroughly ignorant and embarrassing to k-state.Oh little surly you have so much to learn.
Post by: Shooter Jones on September 07, 2022, 09:08:40 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2022, 09:09:54 AM
LOL rampage.Someone tell that nerd that literally nobody but band parents go to a football game to watch the band.Quote“The first time we hear ‘The Chant’ from now on at a football game we will no longer play Wabash during that game until the students decide to mature and realize they’re ruining the best game day tradition in the country,” one K-State band member said.
The song ‘Sandstorm’ has been played very rarely at games in recent years due to the same chant. K-State’s new head basketball coach Jerome Tang recently called for it to stop on social media.
Tracz and the band are encouraging K-State students to change their chant to ‘K-S-U’ so the long standing tradition can remain in place.
“The Pride [of Wildcat Land] is not going to support and be a vessel for that type of speech,” the band member who spoke to 27 News said.
Another source says Tracz doesn’t want K-State to be known for disrespecting another school.
https://www.ksnt.com/sports/kansas-state-wildcats/k-states-wabash-cannonball-tradition-could-be-going-away/
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Perhaps you're right. However a college football game is an experience. The band, the student section, the traditions, the cheer squad, the tailgating- all of it plays together for an amazing experience. Mrs. CF3 could take or leave watching the Cats on TV- but an in person game? She's all about that, and not because she really cares much for football.
So yes, it matters to not be dumb and to allow the band to play Wabash. Band isn't your thing? That's fine. But I'm guessing a lot of folks in the stade on a Saturday aren't following recruiting or reading stuff _FAN might write breaking down game film, and that's ok too.
We need to #1Cat here
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2022, 09:10:49 AM
What if it's Mizzou Ozarkian hillbillies doing the chant this weekend?!?!?!
the chant has total mizzou vibes, all the more reason to distance ourselves from it.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 07, 2022, 09:17:14 AM
Post by: DQ12 on September 07, 2022, 09:18:51 AM
Those college kids at a college event better STFU so an old guy can hear the marching bandUh yeah. It's not unreasonable to ask a group of young, college educated adults to not chant eff in unison during a K-State tradition. What other family atmosphere would it be acceptable at?
This isn't crazy.
Post by: OK_Cat on September 07, 2022, 09:19:32 AM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 07, 2022, 09:21:28 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on September 07, 2022, 09:22:32 AM
It’s just a wordThose college kids at a college event better STFU so an old guy can hear the marching bandUh yeah. It's not unreasonable to ask a group of young, college educated adults to not chant eff in unison during a K-State tradition. What other family atmosphere would it be acceptable at?
This isn't crazy.
It’s a good teaching moment. My kids knew from an early age that there are certain words that I’d rather they not say until they are older.
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2022, 09:25:25 AM
Post by: chum1 on September 07, 2022, 09:30:49 AM
The school shouldn't be using the band to issue some sort of weird ultimatum
Yes. It really doesn't have anything at all to do with the bad. Or maybe Tracz is once again taking it upon himself to be self-important.
Post by: HugeCat on September 07, 2022, 09:44:25 AM
https://youtu.be/oYTCDFjxCYI (https://youtu.be/oYTCDFjxCYI)
https://youtu.be/M_uzuB-sryw (https://youtu.be/M_uzuB-sryw)
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2022, 09:45:12 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 07, 2022, 09:48:07 AM
Post by: Trim on September 07, 2022, 09:51:59 AM
Who says no?
Post by: DQ12 on September 07, 2022, 09:53:04 AM
Are the anti-chant'rs solid on this position or is there room for compromise? I'm good with eff chants for mu, ou, and ku. Everyone else can be family friendly. Deal?I think the chant should never be uttered during the Wabash.
I'm ambivalent on it during rivalry games.
Post by: KCFDcat on September 07, 2022, 10:07:39 AM
1. yelling "eff KU" as a drunk 20 year old is a blast
2. It's probably not the smartest/most "mature" thing to do
3. Tracz/admin have made it worse
4. This has been blown out of proportion bc tracz/band weirdos have decided to go on a crusade about it. Lol at "we're not going to be known for disrespecting another team" when the band literally put a dick in a jayhawks mouth when we were playing some non-con opponent.
Post by: Houstoncat93 on September 07, 2022, 10:11:30 AM
Are the anti-chant'rs solid on this position or is there room for compromise? I'm good with eff chants for mu, ou, and ku. Everyone else can be family friendly. Deal?I think the chant should never be uttered during the Wabash.
I'm ambivalent on it during rivalry games.
This is the point, if this was just done during KU games then I really wouldn't have an issue. It's stupid and very Texas Aggie/Little brother syndrome to be doing it at every game.
Post by: Winters on September 07, 2022, 10:16:17 AM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on September 07, 2022, 10:18:47 AM
For what it’s worth I don’t think you will ever be able to control students/people by imposing authoritarian ultimatums. And I have resigned myself that unfortunately, people are eventually going to ruin everything I enjoy about college athletics. It’s inevitable so there’s no sense in me getting outraged about it. But for people that don’t think this is causing us to miss out on a great home atmosphere no matter who’s wrong or right, just look around at other stadiums game day experience. Virginia tech’s Enter the Sandman intro is amazing. Here’s the beginning of South Carolina’s intro using sandstorm. This is what we’re losing because of childish and stubborn behavior.
https://youtu.be/oYTCDFjxCYI (https://youtu.be/oYTCDFjxCYI)
https://youtu.be/M_uzuB-sryw (https://youtu.be/M_uzuB-sryw)
I didn't see a marching band involved in either of those awesome intros.
Post by: KCFDcat on September 07, 2022, 10:24:06 AM
For what it’s worth I don’t think you will ever be able to control students/people by imposing authoritarian ultimatums. And I have resigned myself that unfortunately, people are eventually going to ruin everything I enjoy about college athletics. It’s inevitable so there’s no sense in me getting outraged about it. But for people that don’t think this is causing us to miss out on a great home atmosphere no matter who’s wrong or right, just look around at other stadiums game day experience. Virginia tech’s Enter the Sandman intro is amazing. Here’s the beginning of South Carolina’s intro using sandstorm. This is what we’re losing because of childish and stubborn behavior.
https://youtu.be/oYTCDFjxCYI (https://youtu.be/oYTCDFjxCYI)
https://youtu.be/M_uzuB-sryw (https://youtu.be/M_uzuB-sryw)
I didn't see a marching band involved in either of those awesome intros.
just play sandstorm for like 45 minutes straight during pregame, let everyone chant whatever they want. the novelty of it will wear off eventually
Post by: Trim on September 07, 2022, 10:58:08 AM
Are the anti-chant'rs solid on this position or is there room for compromise? I'm good with eff chants for mu, ou, and ku. Everyone else can be family friendly. Deal?I think the chant should never be uttered during the Wabash.
I'm ambivalent on it during rivalry games.
This is the point, if this was just done during KU games then I really wouldn't have an issue. It's stupid and very Texas Aggie/Little brother syndrome to be doing it at every game.
Similar to how EMAW isn't an acronym, I don't view The Chant as having anything to do with squawks anymore.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2022, 10:59:48 AM
LOL rampage.Someone tell that nerd that literally nobody but band parents go to a football game to watch the band.Quote“The first time we hear ‘The Chant’ from now on at a football game we will no longer play Wabash during that game until the students decide to mature and realize they’re ruining the best game day tradition in the country,” one K-State band member said.
The song ‘Sandstorm’ has been played very rarely at games in recent years due to the same chant. K-State’s new head basketball coach Jerome Tang recently called for it to stop on social media.
Tracz and the band are encouraging K-State students to change their chant to ‘K-S-U’ so the long standing tradition can remain in place.
“The Pride [of Wildcat Land] is not going to support and be a vessel for that type of speech,” the band member who spoke to 27 News said.
Another source says Tracz doesn’t want K-State to be known for disrespecting another school.
https://www.ksnt.com/sports/kansas-state-wildcats/k-states-wabash-cannonball-tradition-could-be-going-away/
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This is very incorrect, but go off king. Maybe one day you'll actually attend a game.
Post by: DQ12 on September 07, 2022, 11:04:28 AM
It's wild how little respect the band gets from a lot of people and how taken for granted they are.LOL rampage.Someone tell that nerd that literally nobody but band parents go to a football game to watch the band.Quote“The first time we hear ‘The Chant’ from now on at a football game we will no longer play Wabash during that game until the students decide to mature and realize they’re ruining the best game day tradition in the country,” one K-State band member said.
The song ‘Sandstorm’ has been played very rarely at games in recent years due to the same chant. K-State’s new head basketball coach Jerome Tang recently called for it to stop on social media.
Tracz and the band are encouraging K-State students to change their chant to ‘K-S-U’ so the long standing tradition can remain in place.
“The Pride [of Wildcat Land] is not going to support and be a vessel for that type of speech,” the band member who spoke to 27 News said.
Another source says Tracz doesn’t want K-State to be known for disrespecting another school.
https://www.ksnt.com/sports/kansas-state-wildcats/k-states-wabash-cannonball-tradition-could-be-going-away/
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This is very incorrect, but go off king. Maybe one day you'll actually attend a game.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2022, 11:06:31 AM
Hey, fellow old guys, we did stupid crap in college, it’s their turn. It doesn’t hurt anything.I hate old ass men making excuses for it even more than I hate the people chanting eff ku at the worst college football program in all of those idiots lifetimes.Yeah, that's really pathetic and frustrating. I feel 1000 years old when I gripe about this, but come on. There's a time and place I'm OK with that chant. During the Wabash against South Dakota definitely ain't it.
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Ah, there it's is, there's the dumb ass excuse. This can be used to excuse literally any poor behavior, so I guess we're all mumped and should accept any and every bad behavior because people from previous generations weren't perfect.
Man, I'm glad my parents didn't ascribe to this same flawless logic and I had an expected standard of behavior, even I sometimes fell short.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2022, 11:11:01 AM
It's wild how little respect the band gets from a lot of people and how taken for granted they are.LOL rampage.Someone tell that nerd that literally nobody but band parents go to a football game to watch the band.Quote“The first time we hear ‘The Chant’ from now on at a football game we will no longer play Wabash during that game until the students decide to mature and realize they’re ruining the best game day tradition in the country,” one K-State band member said.
The song ‘Sandstorm’ has been played very rarely at games in recent years due to the same chant. K-State’s new head basketball coach Jerome Tang recently called for it to stop on social media.
Tracz and the band are encouraging K-State students to change their chant to ‘K-S-U’ so the long standing tradition can remain in place.
“The Pride [of Wildcat Land] is not going to support and be a vessel for that type of speech,” the band member who spoke to 27 News said.
Another source says Tracz doesn’t want K-State to be known for disrespecting another school.
https://www.ksnt.com/sports/kansas-state-wildcats/k-states-wabash-cannonball-tradition-could-be-going-away/
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This is very incorrect, but go off king. Maybe one day you'll actually attend a game.
None of these people attend games so who gives a crap? You also don't have to like marching band music to respect the amount of focused hard work it takes to become good at playing a musical instrument.
Disrespecting focused discipline while providing excuses for an absence of discipline is telling about the people doing so. Pretty easy to mock and dismiss them.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2022, 11:12:28 AM
Lol, yeah the band doesn’t have some moral high ground after their Star Trek thing, which I’m also totally fine with.
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Every member of the current marching band were in elementary school when that happened.
Post by: OK_Cat on September 07, 2022, 11:13:25 AM
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2022, 11:18:27 AM
Are the anti-chant'rs solid on this position or is there room for compromise? I'm good with eff chants for mu, ou, and ku. Everyone else can be family friendly. Deal?
I'm pro creativity. I take my kids to Sporting Kansas City matches and don't have an issue with the chants there. The eff ku chant, the way it's used now, is gratuitous. It really shouldn't be an issue to not do it during the wabash cannonball three months before we play KU.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 07, 2022, 11:20:23 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2022, 11:27:12 AM
This is what happens when you let people into your school that scored a 17 on the ACT.:ROFL:
Post by: OB_Won on September 07, 2022, 11:33:53 AM
This is what happens when you let people into your school that scored a 17 on the ACT.I dislike it because it makes KSU look like pathetic losers. Who gives a damn about KU except when we're playing them? ESPECIALLY, in football, a sport we've been FAR superior in for 1-2 generations. It's very "little brother". Also, "eff" IS just a word, but if you're going to be crass and edgy (especially around children) at least make it count. It's gratuitous. I guess we are who they think we are.
Post by: OK_Cat on September 07, 2022, 11:56:22 AM
I agree, Don! Why can’t we enjoy the spectacle of another group of kids destroying their bodies for our amusement without such vulgarity!
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Post by: DQ12 on September 07, 2022, 12:01:08 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on September 07, 2022, 12:03:20 PM
Some (many!) contexts just aren't appropriate for organized, chanted profanity, OK Cat. A sporting event against South Dakota at LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium is probably one of the many.It’s fine, friend. We aren’t ever going to agree on this. I have never been offended by words and don’t understand what that is like. Ultimately, I feel like a lot of time is being wasted on such a trivial thing IMO
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Post by: OB_Won on September 07, 2022, 12:24:59 PM
But again, for me it's more pathetic when we use the chant. Save it for KU week.
Post by: catastrophe on September 07, 2022, 12:39:15 PM
It wasn’t until much later I realized that part was supposed to be “go horns go” and it morphed into the cussing part during old rivalry games with Arkansas. But now they just do it for every game.
This feels like a dumber version of that.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 07, 2022, 12:41:39 PM
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on September 07, 2022, 02:30:42 PM
to dlews point, i'm fine with us doing the macarena dance, i think we should just save it for when the song is playing.
Post by: bunter on September 07, 2022, 03:12:06 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on September 07, 2022, 03:14:27 PM
this reminds me of the summer of 1996. the song was Macarena and we were all so crazy about the song and the dance that we would do the macarena dance to other songs that had a beat that worked with the dance because it wasn't playing on the radio at that very moment but we just really wanted to do the dance.
to dlews point, i'm fine with us doing the macarena dance, i think we should just save it for when the song is playing.
This was really deep and insightful. Prob way too deep and insightful to describe people being mad about college students saying eff at games, but deep and insightful nonetheless. :thumbsup:
Post by: konofo on September 07, 2022, 03:20:00 PM
I want this on record. I 100% want us to be known for disrespecting other schools.
This is why Winters is The King of Real Zeal.
kono
Post by: Justwin on September 07, 2022, 03:20:56 PM
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Post by: MadCat on September 07, 2022, 03:29:08 PM
Post by: bunter on September 07, 2022, 03:31:07 PM
Or what if they only do the chant when the band isn't playing? WHAT NOW!?!?
I bet even Pavlovs dogs ate when they didn't here a bell. Interesting thought
Post by: ben ji on September 07, 2022, 04:03:38 PM
https://twitter.com/JimMWeber/status/1553724209335078914?t=E8gs87HPp17KVW0WoKxceA&s=19
Post by: PurpleOil on September 07, 2022, 04:35:55 PM
Sandstorm used to be "K-S-U" unless we were playing KU, when the chant would break out. Then the dweeb that is JC tried to enforce a behavior policy/code of conduct which was promptly laughed at. Then he banned sandstorm which made it "a thing" to a bunch of teenagers. When that didn't work, admin tried to police the bball games and things have just slowly escalated from there. Now it's happening in the football stadium.
I think it's ridiculous to chant anything against KU when we're not playing them. I don't care about it when we are. However, to threaten to not play our "historic" fight song because some students are just being dumb about all of this won't solve this either. It's going to continue to make it worse as the students will continue to take it as a challenge to try and throw it in whenever they can.
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2022, 04:51:34 PM
Big time programs have big time chants.Yep.
https://twitter.com/JimMWeber/status/1553724209335078914?t=E8gs87HPp17KVW0WoKxceA&s=19
At every single game, half of Wisconsin’s student section chants “eat crap,” and the other half chants “eff you.”
This happens all over the country.
The band leader is a complete dork and needs to shut up, because he’s making this worse.
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2022, 04:52:21 PM
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2022, 04:54:15 PM
Everyone: dibs on the old band seats
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2022, 04:57:25 PM
Post by: nicname on September 07, 2022, 05:14:40 PM
I wish there were a way to amplify the band by pumping them thru the giant jbl speaker on top of OOD, but I understand the difficulty/impossibly.
Post by: OB_Won on September 07, 2022, 05:15:44 PM
Also, does anyone else think it’s weird that the the band leader insists on being called a doctor?He DIDN'T go to medical school for 4 years and another 4 years of residency so you could call him "Mr."
Post by: Trim on September 07, 2022, 05:23:52 PM
Sandstorm used to be "K-S-U" unless we were playing KU, when the chant would break out.
And before that, no chant at all. It was a thing during a timeout where the camera would search out fans up for doing Jersey Shore fist pumps for the jumbotron.
Traditions evolve naturally however they evolve.
Post by: bunter on September 07, 2022, 05:55:04 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2022, 06:49:43 PM
Also, does anyone else think it’s weird that the the band leader insists on being called a doctor?
You mean like every college professor i had that wasn’t a Grad assistant?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2022, 06:52:51 PM
Post by: ben ji on September 07, 2022, 07:20:45 PM
This thing is dumb- but the frat boy edgy “band kids are nerds so eff” them takes from dudes in their 40s has a big uncle Rico vibe. You guys know you’re middle aged, right?Clams is a true freshman about to bag a dozen pelts.
Post by: OK_Cat on September 07, 2022, 07:21:53 PM
This thing is dumb- but the frat boy edgy “band kids are nerds so eff” them takes from dudes in their 40s has a big uncle Rico vibe. You guys know you’re middle aged, right?I’m sorry that you’re offended that people don’t really like marching bands. It’s been decided, though.
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Post by: Pete on September 07, 2022, 07:40:09 PM
This thing is dumb- but the frat boy edgy “band kids are nerds so eff” them takes from dudes in their 40s has a big uncle Rico vibe. You guys know you’re middle aged, right?I legitimately respect the band. However, I have disliked the band leader for over 20 years.
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2022, 07:46:09 PM
What's worse a bunch of teenagers chanting eff or a bunch of 40 (or older :surprised:) year olds trying to pretend it's coolThe worst is the ridiculous response from KSU leadership when this sort of thing happens. The rough ridin' dorks make it “cool” by drawing attention to it and inviting rebellion.
Post by: nicname on September 07, 2022, 07:46:53 PM
Post by: wetwillie on September 07, 2022, 07:48:05 PM
Chant aside, our student section is more turnt up this year than I remember in years past.
Post by: chum1 on September 07, 2022, 07:53:17 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2022, 07:58:03 PM
This thing is dumb- but the frat boy edgy “band kids are nerds so eff” them takes from dudes in their 40s has a big uncle Rico vibe. You guys know you’re middle aged, right?I’m sorry that you’re offended that people don’t really like marching bands. It’s been decided, though.
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You’re wearing a letter jacket, aren’t you
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2022, 07:58:53 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2022, 07:59:47 PM
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2022, 08:10:30 PM
It’s the ku part that is most embarrassingBeing grumpy at KU is pretty old KSU phenomenon, isn’t it?
Post by: wetwillie on September 07, 2022, 08:17:02 PM
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2022, 08:26:06 PM
Need to start arresting people, should put an end to it.Tear gas them. They will learn.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2022, 08:33:12 PM
It’s the ku part that is most embarrassingBeing grumpy at KU is pretty old KSU phenomenon, isn’t it?
Tis
Post by: Spracne on September 07, 2022, 08:33:52 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2022, 08:43:09 PM
The view from Snob Hill looks mighty fine, to me.
This is a family meeting. Please wait outside while we devour ourselves over trivial matters
Post by: nicname on September 07, 2022, 08:51:43 PM
The view from Snob Hill looks mighty fine, to me.
Get lost, freak!
Post by: _33 on September 07, 2022, 09:23:42 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2022, 09:47:11 PM
What's worse a bunch of teenagers chanting eff or a bunch of 40 (or older :surprised:) year olds trying to pretend it's cool
The word
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2022, 09:57:32 PM
The admin are making this much worse, which is how this whole thing started anyways.
Sandstorm used to be "K-S-U" unless we were playing KU, when the chant would break out. Then the dweeb that is JC tried to enforce a behavior policy/code of conduct which was promptly laughed at. Then he banned sandstorm which made it "a thing" to a bunch of teenagers. When that didn't work, admin tried to police the bball games and things have just slowly escalated from there. Now it's happening in the football stadium.
I think it's ridiculous to chant anything against KU when we're not playing them. I don't care about it when we are. However, to threaten to not play our "historic" fight song because some students are just being dumb about all of this won't solve this either. It's going to continue to make it worse as the students will continue to take it as a challenge to try and throw it in whenever they can.
I've now decided that the take of "the students wouldn't do it if the adults didn't say anything" is 400x worse that the actual change. In fact if the chant was eff ku, the motherfucking dick sucking cunts, that would still be better than this old tired take.
The chant started, on Saturday, 40 minutes before the game started while the stadium was half full, at best. None of the rough ridin' students were thinking about old people on the west side when they started chanting that. They chanted it because they're dumb rough ridin' kids. It's the same reason many of the same dumb eff students take their shoes off at kickoff, mimicking the dumb eff students at losery Nebraska of all rough ridin' places to mimick.
It's really okay to call stupid behavior, stupid. Those fuckheads aren't your angsty teenage kid that you're oh so desperate to bond with. They don't give a eff about you, just like we didn't give a eff about boomers when we were 20 years old.
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Post by: Pete on September 07, 2022, 10:55:48 PM
Post by: DQ12 on September 07, 2022, 11:24:16 PM
I’m very much with MIR. It’s okay to acknowledge that chanting eff at BSFS during the wabash is objectively crass behavior. And the admin (predictably) doing what they can to stop it isn’t unreasonable.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2022, 11:55:22 PM
Fine. See where it gets you.
Literally nowhere, doesn't make it less dipshitty
Post by: Cire on September 08, 2022, 05:59:50 AM
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Post by: Pete on September 08, 2022, 07:06:30 AM
The olds defending the students give of serious “greetings fellow obscenity chanters” Steve Buscemi meme vibes.I’m certain that you understand that the “administration acknowledging” and the band leader publicly threatening to take away the wabash cannonball are two very different ends of the spectrum of response.
I’m very much with MIR. It’s okay to acknowledge that chanting eff at BSFS during the wabash is objectively crass behavior. And the admin (predictably) doing what they can to stop it isn’t unreasonable.
And while the administration’s attempts to “do what they can to stop it” are futile, I suppose it is important to some people for them to give the impression that they are not helpless (they are). I simply disagree that a merely symbolic gesture does any good, and firmly believe that it creates more of the same behavior they are attempting to eliminate.
Post by: Pete on September 08, 2022, 07:09:32 AM
Same thing.
Post by: HugeCat on September 08, 2022, 08:26:59 AM
The administration (and their like minded fellows) are like me posting in this thread. It’s an absolute waste of time with zero possible chance of changing anyone’s mind and only serves to feed the ego and rationalize thinking my position is one of superiority.(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2F1b%2F1b338818e097f664b83a31fd2d507cdbe6d96a50090dbb7a111a116c646b6aa0.jpg&hash=da9f7f3491bdcf4057fb222025c551da38d7c01f)
Same thing.
Post by: PurpleOil on September 08, 2022, 08:41:15 AM
The admin are making this much worse, which is how this whole thing started anyways.
Sandstorm used to be "K-S-U" unless we were playing KU, when the chant would break out. Then the dweeb that is JC tried to enforce a behavior policy/code of conduct which was promptly laughed at. Then he banned sandstorm which made it "a thing" to a bunch of teenagers. When that didn't work, admin tried to police the bball games and things have just slowly escalated from there. Now it's happening in the football stadium.
I think it's ridiculous to chant anything against KU when we're not playing them. I don't care about it when we are. However, to threaten to not play our "historic" fight song because some students are just being dumb about all of this won't solve this either. It's going to continue to make it worse as the students will continue to take it as a challenge to try and throw it in whenever they can.
I've now decided that the take of "the students wouldn't do it if the adults didn't say anything" is 400x worse that the actual change. In fact if the chant was eff ku, the motherfucking dick sucking cunts, that would still be better than this old tired take.
The chant started, on Saturday, 40 minutes before the game started while the stadium was half full, at best. None of the rough ridin' students were thinking about old people on the west side when they started chanting that. They chanted it because they're dumb rough ridin' kids. It's the same reason many of the same dumb eff students take their shoes off at kickoff, mimicking the dumb eff students at losery Nebraska of all rough ridin' places to mimick.
It's really okay to call stupid behavior, stupid. Those fuckheads aren't your angsty teenage kid that you're oh so desperate to bond with. They don't give a eff about you, just like we didn't give a eff about boomers when we were 20 years old.
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Damn dude, are you okay? Who hurt you?
1. I never once condoned the behavior. In fact, I said the exact opposite.
2. I never said the students wouldn't have done this if the adults had ignored it. I also never said that it should have been ignored. I said that our admin has made it worse. I still stand by this statement and no one has really been able to make a case otherwise.
3. I'm not desperate to bond with any of them. Hell, I went out with a few of my tenants in the middle of August to Aggieville and even after two stiff drinks I still couldn't stand their immaturity.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 08, 2022, 08:53:44 AM
The olds defending the students give of serious “greetings fellow obscenity chanters” Steve Buscemi meme vibes.
I’m very much with MIR. It’s okay to acknowledge that chanting eff at BSFS during the wabash is objectively crass behavior. And the admin (predictably) doing what they can to stop it isn’t unreasonable.
The administration isn't doing anything that will have any effect at all. If they actually want to stop the chant, they should crack down on alcohol at tailgates.
Post by: Pete on September 08, 2022, 08:55:58 AM
Now that you mention it, I wonder what proportion of the chanters had consumed more than 2 drinks before they started chanting?The olds defending the students give of serious “greetings fellow obscenity chanters” Steve Buscemi meme vibes.
I’m very much with MIR. It’s okay to acknowledge that chanting eff at BSFS during the wabash is objectively crass behavior. And the admin (predictably) doing what they can to stop it isn’t unreasonable.
The administration isn't doing anything that will have any effect at all. If they actually want to stop the chant, they should crack down on alcohol at tailgates.
Post by: wetwillie on September 08, 2022, 09:40:32 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on September 08, 2022, 09:42:04 AM
Post by: chum1 on September 08, 2022, 09:42:55 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2022, 09:49:52 AM
It’s telling that they haven’t rolled Bill’s bones out on the jumbo tron before game to tell the kids to knock that crap off.
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Tang has already asked them to stop but people aren't saying boo about that.
Post by: PurpleOil on September 08, 2022, 09:57:59 AM
The olds defending the students give of serious “greetings fellow obscenity chanters” Steve Buscemi meme vibes.
I’m very much with MIR. It’s okay to acknowledge that chanting eff at BSFS during the wabash is objectively crass behavior. And the admin (predictably) doing what they can to stop it isn’t unreasonable.
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Post by: ChiComCat on September 08, 2022, 09:59:54 AM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 08, 2022, 10:33:42 AM
Now that you mention it, I wonder what proportion of the chanters had consumed more than 2 drinks before they started chanting?The olds defending the students give of serious “greetings fellow obscenity chanters” Steve Buscemi meme vibes.
I’m very much with MIR. It’s okay to acknowledge that chanting eff at BSFS during the wabash is objectively crass behavior. And the admin (predictably) doing what they can to stop it isn’t unreasonable.
The administration isn't doing anything that will have any effect at all. If they actually want to stop the chant, they should crack down on alcohol at tailgates.
I would set the over/under at 90%
Post by: Trim on September 08, 2022, 10:42:58 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 08, 2022, 11:13:53 AM
This thing is dumb- but the frat boy edgy “band kids are nerds so eff” them takes from dudes in their 40s has a big uncle Rico vibe. You guys know you’re middle aged, right?Clams is a true freshman about to bag a dozen pelts.
he's got a sick mini fridge with 4 trulys in it, i saw them myself
Post by: DQ12 on September 08, 2022, 11:35:40 AM
So which is it? Is the administration helpless or tyrannical? If they stop playing wabash, they're tyrants. If they ask nicely, they're helpless. What are they supposed to do?The olds defending the students give of serious “greetings fellow obscenity chanters” Steve Buscemi meme vibes.I’m certain that you understand that the “administration acknowledging” and the band leader publicly threatening to take away the wabash cannonball are two very different ends of the spectrum of response.
I’m very much with MIR. It’s okay to acknowledge that chanting eff at BSFS during the wabash is objectively crass behavior. And the admin (predictably) doing what they can to stop it isn’t unreasonable.
And while the administration’s attempts to “do what they can to stop it” are futile, I suppose it is important to some people for them to give the impression that they are not helpless (they are). I simply disagree that a merely symbolic gesture does any good, and firmly believe that it creates more of the same behavior they are attempting to eliminate.
And not for nothing, this isn't a uniquely K-State thing. As much as the criticizers wish that they could point to this as an example of "k-state overreacting to protect their delicate sensibilities," this same episode happened at LSU with Neck (which doesn't get played anymore because the crowd ruined it). I imagine most universities/ADs would view this as a problem and consider stop playing the song as a last resort, just as K-State is doing. "Doing nothing" which, as far as I can tell, they've been doing for the last several years, obviously hasn't worked.
I don't think it's a given that the students will chant eff ku no matter what, given that this is a relatively new phenomenon. And if they do get the Wabash canceled and Wildcat Victory canceled and the Alma Mater canceled, well I think that would be pretty sad for a few reasons.
Bottom line is this, imo: the students chanting eff KU to the Wabash is a problem. The immediate solution is "ok that song doesn't get played anymore." It's pretty clear that if students don't like that solution, then they should solve the problem by reserving the chant to the appropriate times.
Post by: Justwin on September 08, 2022, 12:44:39 PM
Also, does anyone else think it’s weird that the the band leader insists on being called a doctor?
You mean like every college professor i had that wasn’t a Grad assistant?
Not all college professors insist on being called doctor, and if they do, they generally don't insist on it outside of the academic setting.
Insisting on being called doctor outside of your professional setting is weird and insecure.
Post by: Pete on September 08, 2022, 12:49:55 PM
Free country, broSo which is it? Is the administration helpless or tyrannical? If they stop playing wabash, they're tyrants. If they ask nicely, they're helpless. What are they supposed to do?The olds defending the students give of serious “greetings fellow obscenity chanters” Steve Buscemi meme vibes.I’m certain that you understand that the “administration acknowledging” and the band leader publicly threatening to take away the wabash cannonball are two very different ends of the spectrum of response.
I’m very much with MIR. It’s okay to acknowledge that chanting eff at BSFS during the wabash is objectively crass behavior. And the admin (predictably) doing what they can to stop it isn’t unreasonable.
And while the administration’s attempts to “do what they can to stop it” are futile, I suppose it is important to some people for them to give the impression that they are not helpless (they are). I simply disagree that a merely symbolic gesture does any good, and firmly believe that it creates more of the same behavior they are attempting to eliminate.
And not for nothing, this isn't a uniquely K-State thing. As much as the criticizers wish that they could point to this as an example of "k-state overreacting to protect their delicate sensibilities," this same episode happened at LSU with Neck (which doesn't get played anymore because the crowd ruined it). I imagine most universities/ADs would view this as a problem and consider stop playing the song as a last resort, just as K-State is doing. "Doing nothing" which, as far as I can tell, they've been doing for the last several years, obviously hasn't worked.
I don't think it's a given that the students will chant eff ku no matter what, given that this is a relatively new phenomenon. And if they do get the Wabash canceled and Wildcat Victory canceled and the Alma Mater canceled, well I think that would be pretty sad for a few reasons.
Bottom line is this, imo: the students chanting eff KU to the Wabash is a problem. The immediate solution is "ok that song doesn't get played anymore." It's pretty clear that if students don't like that solution, then they should solve the problem by reserving the chant to the appropriate times.
Post by: DQ12 on September 08, 2022, 01:07:26 PM
No doubt. Everyone do what you want. Students can chant. Band can not play song.Free country, broSo which is it? Is the administration helpless or tyrannical? If they stop playing wabash, they're tyrants. If they ask nicely, they're helpless. What are they supposed to do?The olds defending the students give of serious “greetings fellow obscenity chanters” Steve Buscemi meme vibes.I’m certain that you understand that the “administration acknowledging” and the band leader publicly threatening to take away the wabash cannonball are two very different ends of the spectrum of response.
I’m very much with MIR. It’s okay to acknowledge that chanting eff at BSFS during the wabash is objectively crass behavior. And the admin (predictably) doing what they can to stop it isn’t unreasonable.
And while the administration’s attempts to “do what they can to stop it” are futile, I suppose it is important to some people for them to give the impression that they are not helpless (they are). I simply disagree that a merely symbolic gesture does any good, and firmly believe that it creates more of the same behavior they are attempting to eliminate.
And not for nothing, this isn't a uniquely K-State thing. As much as the criticizers wish that they could point to this as an example of "k-state overreacting to protect their delicate sensibilities," this same episode happened at LSU with Neck (which doesn't get played anymore because the crowd ruined it). I imagine most universities/ADs would view this as a problem and consider stop playing the song as a last resort, just as K-State is doing. "Doing nothing" which, as far as I can tell, they've been doing for the last several years, obviously hasn't worked.
I don't think it's a given that the students will chant eff ku no matter what, given that this is a relatively new phenomenon. And if they do get the Wabash canceled and Wildcat Victory canceled and the Alma Mater canceled, well I think that would be pretty sad for a few reasons.
Bottom line is this, imo: the students chanting eff KU to the Wabash is a problem. The immediate solution is "ok that song doesn't get played anymore." It's pretty clear that if students don't like that solution, then they should solve the problem by reserving the chant to the appropriate times.
Post by: Pete on September 08, 2022, 01:15:29 PM
AgreedNo doubt. Everyone do what you want. Students can chant. Band can not play song.Free country, broSo which is it? Is the administration helpless or tyrannical? If they stop playing wabash, they're tyrants. If they ask nicely, they're helpless. What are they supposed to do?The olds defending the students give of serious “greetings fellow obscenity chanters” Steve Buscemi meme vibes.I’m certain that you understand that the “administration acknowledging” and the band leader publicly threatening to take away the wabash cannonball are two very different ends of the spectrum of response.
I’m very much with MIR. It’s okay to acknowledge that chanting eff at BSFS during the wabash is objectively crass behavior. And the admin (predictably) doing what they can to stop it isn’t unreasonable.
And while the administration’s attempts to “do what they can to stop it” are futile, I suppose it is important to some people for them to give the impression that they are not helpless (they are). I simply disagree that a merely symbolic gesture does any good, and firmly believe that it creates more of the same behavior they are attempting to eliminate.
And not for nothing, this isn't a uniquely K-State thing. As much as the criticizers wish that they could point to this as an example of "k-state overreacting to protect their delicate sensibilities," this same episode happened at LSU with Neck (which doesn't get played anymore because the crowd ruined it). I imagine most universities/ADs would view this as a problem and consider stop playing the song as a last resort, just as K-State is doing. "Doing nothing" which, as far as I can tell, they've been doing for the last several years, obviously hasn't worked.
I don't think it's a given that the students will chant eff ku no matter what, given that this is a relatively new phenomenon. And if they do get the Wabash canceled and Wildcat Victory canceled and the Alma Mater canceled, well I think that would be pretty sad for a few reasons.
Bottom line is this, imo: the students chanting eff KU to the Wabash is a problem. The immediate solution is "ok that song doesn't get played anymore." It's pretty clear that if students don't like that solution, then they should solve the problem by reserving the chant to the appropriate times.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 08, 2022, 01:32:35 PM
Post by: catastrophe on September 08, 2022, 02:20:59 PM
Honestly the only way to maybe get the students to stop would be to start making an example of random people and just ejecting them from games.The university doesn’t have to be desperate to get the students to stop.
The ironic thing is the band is holding this cudgel over the students heads thinking they have some leverage of taking away a nationally recognized tradition by not playing wabash. When the reality is the tradition is already ruined as long as the chant persists. We’re not going to get any positive recognition for wabash as long as the chant continues so it’s really no leverage at all.
Just stop playing the song.
Post by: OK_Cat on September 08, 2022, 02:25:18 PM
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Post by: nicname on September 08, 2022, 02:31:33 PM
‘Nationally recognized tradition’
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It’s pretty well known.
Post by: OK_Cat on September 08, 2022, 02:32:32 PM
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Post by: KITNfury on September 08, 2022, 02:34:37 PM
Post by: catastrophe on September 08, 2022, 05:26:42 PM
‘Nationally recognized tradition’https://www.espn.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/127372/college-football-roundtable-best-pregame-tradition
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If you haven’t been in LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium when “The Pride of Wildcat” band is playing "Wabash Cannonball" in front of the Kansas State student section, you need to put that on your bucket list. It’s hard to not get in the football mood when watching the Wildcats band get the student section hyped for Big 12 football. Not only is "Wabash Cannonball" a catchy tune, but it also combines with the coordination in the student section to become one of college football’s best pregame traditions.
Post by: TheHamburglar on September 08, 2022, 06:15:54 PM
Also I searched the transcript & Gene said “yeah” 7 times.
Post by: Cire on September 08, 2022, 07:41:08 PM
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Post by: Cire on September 08, 2022, 07:43:05 PM
Eject the student section next timeWarn
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Play wabash
Throw them out
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Post by: Pete on September 08, 2022, 07:44:39 PM
Post by: wetwillie on September 08, 2022, 07:46:19 PM
Post by: ben ji on September 08, 2022, 07:47:10 PM
I bet they would stop if we forfeited the game.
"Kansas State enters the Big12 championship game with an 11-1 record, their only loss being a forfeit vs Tulane after their student section refused to stop chanting F KU after multiple warnings"
Post by: wetwillie on September 08, 2022, 07:49:48 PM
I bet they would stop if we forfeited the game.
"Kansas State enters the Big12 championship game with an 11-1 record, their only loss being a forfeit vs Tulane after their student section refused to stop chanting F KU after multiple warnings"
:lol:
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on September 08, 2022, 08:49:10 PM
Bam. Now what? The band has one song. Will the students raise The Chant™? for the 14th time only midway through the first quarter or will they get bored? Let the chips fall where they will.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 08, 2022, 10:12:23 PM
It’s not that we’ll known
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When I was in high school I could throw a football over a quarter mile
Post by: chum1 on September 08, 2022, 10:26:57 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2022, 11:24:31 PM
‘Nationally recognized tradition’https://www.espn.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/127372/college-football-roundtable-best-pregame-tradition
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkQuoteIf you haven’t been in LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium when “The Pride of Wildcat” band is playing "Wabash Cannonball" in front of the Kansas State student section, you need to put that on your bucket list. It’s hard to not get in the football mood when watching the Wildcats band get the student section hyped for Big 12 football. Not only is "Wabash Cannonball" a catchy tune, but it also combines with the coordination in the student section to become one of college football’s best pregame traditions.
It, like rock chalk jayhawk, are nationality recognized by the literal 1% of the population who closely follow college sports. The same percentage of people in Florida who know what the wabash cannonball is is the same percentage of people in Kansas who know the name of Florida State's horse is or who Mr. 2 Bits is.
Post by: OK_Cat on September 09, 2022, 08:55:13 AM
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Post by: DQ12 on September 09, 2022, 09:27:25 AM
RENEGADE‘Nationally recognized tradition’https://www.espn.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/127372/college-football-roundtable-best-pregame-tradition
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkQuoteIf you haven’t been in LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium when “The Pride of Wildcat” band is playing "Wabash Cannonball" in front of the Kansas State student section, you need to put that on your bucket list. It’s hard to not get in the football mood when watching the Wildcats band get the student section hyped for Big 12 football. Not only is "Wabash Cannonball" a catchy tune, but it also combines with the coordination in the student section to become one of college football’s best pregame traditions.
It, like rock chalk jayhawk, are nationality recognized by the literal 1% of the population who closely follow college sports. The same percentage of people in Florida who know what the wabash cannonball is is the same percentage of people in Kansas who know the name of Florida State's horse is or who Mr. 2 Bits is.
I know 2 Bits is a Florida thing, and I think it's about a fan, maybe? But that's the extent of my knowledge on that one.
Post by: TheHamburglar on September 09, 2022, 09:54:52 AM
This morning’s developments are the best possible way to end the week and this insane conversation
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It was hilarious until the Collegian quoted someone with #1 Pre-Game tradition, which I hate.
Seriously, this is hilarious.
Also, I had never heard of 2-bit until the guy died.
Post by: CNS on September 09, 2022, 10:03:34 AM
I said it in the wrong thread, but making it about ku no matter the opponent is small dick energy. Don't care about "eff" being used.
This has been my thing forever. Littlebro syndrome. No better way to let an opponent know that they absolutely own you than to chant about them while playing someone else. It's sad as eff.
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on September 09, 2022, 10:06:25 AM
It's seriously sad and most goobers don't see it that way. Goddamn, I hate sheep humpers too.I said it in the wrong thread, but making it about ku no matter the opponent is small dick energy. Don't care about "eff" being used.
This has been my thing forever. Littlebro syndrome. No better way to let an opponent know that they absolutely own you is to chant about them while playing someone else. It's sad as eff.
Post by: CNS on September 09, 2022, 10:08:31 AM
It's seriously sad and most goobers don't see it that way. Goddamn, I hate sheep humpers too.I said it in the wrong thread, but making it about ku no matter the opponent is small dick energy. Don't care about "eff" being used.
This has been my thing forever. Littlebro syndrome. No better way to let an opponent know that they absolutely own you is to chant about them while playing someone else. It's sad as eff.
It's an even bigger self own than thousands of ppl miming open handed blowjobs to the camera constantly.
Post by: catastrophe on September 09, 2022, 11:06:37 AM
If your argument is that you have to know or care at all about fan pregame traditions to recognize it then yeah, I agree.‘Nationally recognized tradition’https://www.espn.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/127372/college-football-roundtable-best-pregame-tradition
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkQuoteIf you haven’t been in LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium when “The Pride of Wildcat” band is playing "Wabash Cannonball" in front of the Kansas State student section, you need to put that on your bucket list. It’s hard to not get in the football mood when watching the Wildcats band get the student section hyped for Big 12 football. Not only is "Wabash Cannonball" a catchy tune, but it also combines with the coordination in the student section to become one of college football’s best pregame traditions.
It, like rock chalk jayhawk, are nationality recognized by the literal 1% of the population who closely follow college sports. The same percentage of people in Florida who know what the wabash cannonball is is the same percentage of people in Kansas who know the name of Florida State's horse is or who Mr. 2 Bits is.
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 09, 2022, 12:58:07 PM
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Post by: Pete on September 09, 2022, 01:13:59 PM
Post by: wetwillie on September 09, 2022, 01:29:15 PM
It's like you guys have never even seen someone who chose to play the flute.
I mean if you want to start beating women in your middle age by all means, just couldn’t be me.
Post by: CNS on September 09, 2022, 01:48:28 PM
It's like you guys have never even seen someone who chose to play the flute.
I mean if you want to start beating women in your middle age by all means, just couldn’t be me.
More like SexistWillie.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on September 09, 2022, 05:16:54 PM
Post by: nicname on September 09, 2022, 05:32:42 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 09, 2022, 06:21:56 PM
Also this is a very different exercise at an HBCU.
Post by: nicname on September 09, 2022, 07:08:41 PM
Post by: Pete on September 09, 2022, 07:42:19 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 10, 2022, 01:40:03 PM
If we're beating up band dudes, most of y'all better stick to the flutes and piccolos. I notice none of you picked drum line.don’t eff with that drum line
Also this is a very different exercise at an HBCU.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 10, 2022, 04:23:11 PM
And to the band haters and the band leader haters: the stade was mostly empty after the rain delay, and the band section was shoulder to shoulder, as it always is. Respect.
Huge shoutout to supercat Tang who united a nation today.
Post by: Hurricane Cat on September 10, 2022, 06:27:37 PM
Post by: Pete on September 10, 2022, 06:45:15 PM
Tang definitely stepped up and dealt with the band / chant controversy :combofan:Credit to Tang
Post by: wiley on September 10, 2022, 06:55:34 PM
Ive seen this referenced, but what did Tang do?Tang definitely stepped up and dealt with the band / chant controversy :combofan:Credit to Tang
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 10, 2022, 06:55:52 PM
Post by: HugeCat on September 10, 2022, 07:08:10 PM
It’s the old “good cop, bad cop” routineIve seen this referenced, but what did Tang do?Tang definitely stepped up and dealt with the band / chant controversy :combofan:Credit to Tang
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 10, 2022, 07:09:39 PM
Ive seen this referenced, but what did Tang do?Tang definitely stepped up and dealt with the band / chant controversy :combofan:Credit to Tang
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In the words of kid rock, tang got in the pit and tried to love someone
Post by: nicname on September 10, 2022, 08:10:41 PM
Post by: chum1 on September 10, 2022, 08:13:44 PM
eff THE CHANT!
eff THE CHANT!
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2022, 10:37:47 PM
Ive seen this referenced, but what did Tang do?Tang definitely stepped up and dealt with the band / chant controversy :combofan:Credit to Tang
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https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/1568670589375713283
Post by: tdaver on September 10, 2022, 10:44:02 PM
Ive seen this referenced, but what did Tang do?Tang definitely stepped up and dealt with the band / chant controversy :combofan:Credit to Tang
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In the words of kid rock, tang got in the pit and tried to love someone
:lol:
Post by: CNS on September 11, 2022, 07:50:45 AM
Ive seen this referenced, but what did Tang do?Tang definitely stepped up and dealt with the band / chant controversy :combofan:Credit to Tang
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https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/1568670589375713283
That man looks so rough ridin' good in purple. My god.
Post by: wetwillie on September 11, 2022, 07:51:22 AM
Post by: DQ12 on September 11, 2022, 08:24:20 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on September 11, 2022, 08:26:37 AM
I’m not sure we have ever had a coach quite like him
Can you imagine if oscar would have tried that? They wouldn’t have let him in and after fledgling for a few seconds he would have just stayed on the field Wabashing by himself and then when everyone loudly and clearly changed the chant he would have just thrown his arms up and been like “awww jeez well ya know we tried real hard to get into the stands, thought we had it set up with event security that I’d have a spot there on the front row but I guess they didn’t get the message and ya know as the coach that’s on me so you ya know we are dealing with a lot of adversity but these guys are doing a great job and we’re really excited”
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 11, 2022, 09:11:14 AM
I’m not sure we have ever had a coach quite like him
Can you imagine if oscar would have tried that? They wouldn’t have let him in and after fledgling for a few seconds he would have just stayed on the field Wabashing by himself and then when everyone loudly and clearly changed the chant he would have just thrown his arms up and been like “awww jeez well ya know we tried real hard to get into the stands, thought we had it set up with event security that I’d have a spot there on the front row but I guess they didn’t get the message and ya know as the coach that’s on me so you ya know we are dealing with a lot of adversity but these guys are doing a great job and we’re really excited”
The student section did him no favors.
Post by: Houstoncat93 on September 11, 2022, 10:45:11 AM
Great job today by all. The fans, the band, it was a #1cat Caturday.
And to the band haters and the band leader haters: the stade was mostly empty after the rain delay, and the band section was shoulder to shoulder, as it always is. Respect.
Huge shoutout to supercat Tang who united a nation today.
Aren't they required to be there?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 11, 2022, 01:47:13 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 11, 2022, 01:51:29 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 11, 2022, 01:52:16 PM
Saw the student make up with the band in person. The band came out after the rain delay and the students gave them some nice props. It was a great 1 Cat scene
:ksu:
Post by: Pete on September 11, 2022, 02:08:54 PM
This is a testament to the human spiritSaw the student make up with the band in person. The band came out after the rain delay and the students gave them some nice props. It was a great 1 Cat scene
:ksu:
Post by: Pete on September 11, 2022, 02:09:05 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 11, 2022, 02:58:31 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 11, 2022, 03:12:39 PM
Post by: DQ12 on September 12, 2022, 08:11:07 AM
gf clams (mu grad) gave several glowing compliments about the bandWait you’re dating a grad as a FRESHMAN? Cougar hunting!!!!
Post by: Kat Kid on September 12, 2022, 08:57:29 AM
It is fine to think that the chant is low class or that students should be better or whatever. But if you are trying to "fix" it, you will never do it the way Currie, Gene and Linton have tried (and failed) to fix it.
Post by: DQ12 on September 12, 2022, 09:14:12 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on September 12, 2022, 09:45:29 AM
Giving Tang 100% of the credit for this is hilarious and unsurprising.
It is way funnier to think that the students were finally intimidated to stop by threatening the wabash.
Post by: DQ12 on September 12, 2022, 09:50:29 AM
People often do things for multiple reasons.Giving Tang 100% of the credit for this is hilarious and unsurprising.
It is way funnier to think that the students were finally intimidated to stop by threatening the wabash.
Post by: Kat Kid on September 12, 2022, 09:55:52 AM
People often do things for multiple reasons.Giving Tang 100% of the credit for this is hilarious and unsurprising.
It is way funnier to think that the students were finally intimidated to stop by threatening the wabash.
Oh good to know. I will go back and remove the Tang deserves 100% credit from my post. Thanks for the tip.
Post by: DQ12 on September 12, 2022, 09:58:23 AM
I think the word used by some last week was "helpless."People often do things for multiple reasons.Giving Tang 100% of the credit for this is hilarious and unsurprising.
It is way funnier to think that the students were finally intimidated to stop by threatening the wabash.
Oh good to know. I will go back and remove the Tang deserves 100% credit from my post. Thanks for the tip.
The admin and students and Tang and Tracz all deserve a ton of credit for addressing this problem and getting it fixed within a week.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 12, 2022, 10:53:20 AM
@MIR I am surprised at you. You should know that when you command the masses, especially youth, using power you are likely to get a power struggle. When you use influence and couple that with authentic and enthusiastic engagement you get Tang Saturday in the student section. Leading by example and side by side, not just laying down the law.
It is fine to think that the chant is low class or that students should be better or whatever. But if you are trying to "fix" it, you will never do it the way Currie, Gene and Linton have tried (and failed) to fix it.
You think that chant started 45 minutes before kickoff, on the first game of the year, with hardly any alumni in the stadium, a reaction to fighting against the man? When the hell was the last time anyone other than Tang has mentioned it before then?
They did it because they think it's fun to chant eff ku, full stop. If the admin wouldn't have said a damn thing about it, the chant would have absolutely happened again and again this week.
Some of the students did something the admin and a lot of the alumni found unsavory and they did something about it, and it clearly worked. Most people aren't motivated by "eff the man," most actually want to do the right thing. The students needed a little push to do the right thing and it worked. This is why I'm far more frustrated with the grown ups who are acting like the chant isn't a matter of right and wrong. Kids eff up sometimes and it's okay to tell them when they do and expect them to do better.
Post by: Kat Kid on September 12, 2022, 02:26:15 PM
And of course they aren’t doing it specifically to piss off admin or alumni or whatever, but that didn’t make it stop.
Post by: catastrophe on September 12, 2022, 02:38:02 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on September 12, 2022, 02:45:46 PM
He’s talking about before the SD game, not the MU game.Ah ok. I didn’t hear it but I was east side and inside for most of the game.
Post by: Trim on September 12, 2022, 03:19:00 PM
Post by: Trim on September 14, 2022, 12:38:11 AM
Giving Tang 100% of the credit for this is hilarious and unsurprising.
Quote from: NED
Gotta hand it to one person for stopping the chant: Jerome Tang.
https://themercury.com/opinion/from-the-publisher-tangs-brilliant-redirecting-of-the-chant/article_279ab0c7-9f57-5c1b-92b1-ab204981e39e.html
Post by: MakeItRain on September 14, 2022, 10:19:27 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 14, 2022, 10:54:00 AM
Post by: Pete on September 14, 2022, 12:45:18 PM
win the tang day:ksu:
Post by: GregKSU1027 on September 20, 2022, 03:27:45 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on September 20, 2022, 05:27:19 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 20, 2022, 09:26:49 PM
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 21, 2022, 09:50:44 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2022, 12:05:46 PM
This thing is dumb- but the frat boy edgy “band kids are nerds so eff” them takes from dudes in their 40s has a big uncle Rico vibe. You guys know you’re middle aged, right?I’m sorry that you’re offended that people don’t really like marching bands. It’s been decided, though.
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Post by: OK_Cat on October 03, 2022, 12:18:27 PM
Even a broken clock is correct twice a dayThis thing is dumb- but the frat boy edgy “band kids are nerds so eff” them takes from dudes in their 40s has a big uncle Rico vibe. You guys know you’re middle aged, right?I’m sorry that you’re offended that people don’t really like marching bands. It’s been decided, though.
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Is this your king?
https://twitter.com/ShaneSparksBTN/status/1576738114739277824
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2022, 01:48:06 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 03, 2022, 01:48:50 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on October 03, 2022, 01:57:00 PM
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Post by: DQ12 on October 03, 2022, 02:01:33 PM
1. Figure out a way to cut down on commercials. It's absurd. Unbelievable that ESPN+ (which is functionally a PPV option) has 3:10 ad breaks as often as it does. Probably not realistic, but that's where the most ire should go.
2. Video reviews. Unbelievably inefficient. First, adopt NFL challenge rules. No reason every single play needs to be reviewed. If a team wants to take a swing at a challenge on a particular play, that's when it should happen. Second, am I correct that the white hat is still actually going over to the little box and watching the play? If so, why? Get an official from a central location (or up in the pressbox if you want) and let them be the Replay official and when it's time to review, have him look at the tv already in front of his face with all the controls and make the call, which he can transmit down to the white hat via telecom. There's ostensibly already a guy who watches ever replay anyway (since every play is reviewed). It's such an antiquated system to have the white hat jog sometimes 80 yards, so he can replay the play on a teensy tiny television. Then jog back. It's the future guys. Let's use the tech we have to delegate
3. I imagine halftime could be cut a little bit while still allowing ample time for the band to do its thing. Maybe not.
Anyway, I think 1 and 2 are the biggest culprits, and since the TV ghouls need to pay for their exorbitant contracts somehow, 1 is probably not very realistic. With that in mind, let's see if we can cut down on the number of reviews and get them resolved in 30 seconds or so using the magic of telephones.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2022, 02:01:45 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2022, 02:04:19 PM
I’m 100% on the record of saying that getting rid of the marching band would not hurt the game day experience at all.
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Without hyperbole, this is incredibly silly. Without the band you have maybe even worse than an NFL atmosphere. Thing about the band, at K-State and everywhere else, is without playing a single note they effect the atmosphere because they are the lead for the crowd noise.
I don't want this to get nasty, because you definitely shouldn't be able to express all opinion without getting shouted down, but I really have to wonder if someone thinks bands don't effect the atmosphere if they ever go to games or went to games as a student.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2022, 02:07:11 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2022, 02:07:25 PM
How does the band make half time too long?
They don't, it's a silly argument. The length of halftime is dictated by football rules and they aren't considering what bands want. Coaches want 20 minute halftimes, they aren't asking band directors. If halftime were 15 minutes bands would still play and be fine.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 03, 2022, 02:08:25 PM
How does the band make half time too long?
It doesn't. Went to the Chiefs game against the Chargers and the Mizzou band played, somehow they managed to fit it all in. It's just the "I argue with youth umpires" crowd doing their cool kid act.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 03, 2022, 02:09:27 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2022, 02:17:39 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2022, 02:19:27 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 03, 2022, 02:24:35 PM
If there was no band would the 'gators come back earlier?
lol no.
The halftime tailgater crowd doesn't come back in time for the start of the 3rd quarter, anyway.
good point
Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2022, 02:25:49 PM
It was pretty bad on Saturday.
Post by: Spracne on October 03, 2022, 02:41:56 PM
Well, this is the last year they are leaving, sooo...
It was pretty bad on Saturday.
I was commenting to a few of my 'cat friends how piddly the KSU crowd looked compared to the KU flock.
Post by: bunter on October 03, 2022, 02:49:23 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2022, 02:50:46 PM
Well, this is the last year they are leaving, sooo...
It was pretty bad on Saturday.
I was commenting to a few of my 'cat friends how piddly the KSU crowd looked compared to the KU flock.
lol, I bet you were
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 03, 2022, 02:58:43 PM
Well, this is the last year they are leaving, sooo...
It was pretty bad on Saturday.
I was commenting to a few of my 'cat friends how piddly the KSU crowd looked compared to the KU flock.
on the television broadcast hawk memorial stade looked way fuller than usual, but the closed in endzone across from the hill looked about 15% full
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 03, 2022, 03:11:37 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 03, 2022, 05:07:05 PM
They should take out that end of the stadium and build a mini replica of "The Hill" with the tower and trees since the real hill is blocked by the scoreboard.
They should take out the bowl entirely and add two little streets on either side of the field and have motorcycle races to get the juices flowing.
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 03, 2022, 05:12:40 PM
They already had a track and were so embarrassed they had some private money come in and take it out, tho.They should take out that end of the stadium and build a mini replica of "The Hill" with the tower and trees since the real hill is blocked by the scoreboard.
They should take out the bowl entirely and add two little streets on either side of the field and have motorcycle races to get the juices flowing.
Post by: ben ji on October 03, 2022, 06:14:48 PM
https://twitter.com/1911Yard/status/1576960733719691265?t=tS7x6HLsjl2TVtd5FnbC9g&s=19
Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2022, 06:16:33 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 03, 2022, 06:18:47 PM
Post by: Winters on October 03, 2022, 06:20:54 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2022, 10:49:18 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 03, 2022, 11:41:57 PM
Sweeeet Caroliiiiiine (eff Kay You...)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 04, 2022, 08:48:49 AM
The choice to sync Their Chant to Mr. Brightside is a nice touch, though. KSU and Mizzou should start upping the ante until someone has the balls to do, like, Sweet Caroline, or maybe a Beatles song.
Sweeeet Caroliiiiiine (eff Kay You...)
Now I really hope they play sweet Caroline when KU comes to visit. I doubt they have the balls to play it, though.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2022, 12:15:55 PM
The choice to sync Their Chant to Mr. Brightside is a nice touch, though. KSU and Mizzou should start upping the ante until someone has the balls to do, like, Sweet Caroline, or maybe a Beatles song.
Sweeeet Caroliiiiiine (eff Kay You...)
This sounds like a challenge for flood aggie
Post by: DQ12 on October 05, 2022, 09:55:33 AM