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1)He's big and his hair is big
2)His running skills are VERY GOOD! He proved this last year
3)He's a nice guy
4)He gives AMAZING! interviews.
5)He completes me
Anyway, what if jonson turns out to be amazing? I'm holding out hope that he's really friggin good. But if he was really good, i'm assuming we would have heard some "rumblings" from some sources, and i haven't heard much.
What do you guys think? Is there a chance? Or have i just taken too much nyquil again? hahah. i think he's gonna be a SLAM DUNK
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I'm going to buy an Avery Johnson 2 jersey, will be my first K-State jersey since I got an Aaron Locket one in 1997.
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In my many years of grading players and being very successful at it, I have to say. He has graded extremely high so you know what that means.
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I think I'm going to buy this hat and glue a blonde wig under it and wear it to games.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVYSXsZUUAAS25W?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://wigrevival.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/How-to-Make-a-DIY-Hat-Wig-with-Wefts-768x1024.jpg)
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ya i have a feeling its about to be MINION TIIIIIIIME!!!!!
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I think I'm going to buy this hat and glue a blonde wig under it and wear it to games.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVYSXsZUUAAS25W?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://wigrevival.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/How-to-Make-a-DIY-Hat-Wig-with-Wefts-768x1024.jpg)
Huge hands
Get some of the hulk hands and make them not green. Wear with the hat.
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He will be our OC in like 9 years :dunno:
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Thanks, Bush blister. Hard to say that with a straight face. This thread was definitely needed. the recruiting thread was getting overloaded with this future heartthrob. Hope he doesn’t decommit because you spelled his name wrong.
https://twitter.com/ikeandromeshow/status/1544420119937355777?s=20&t=tuQzP4DfkRt_X4r7TajHIw
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He will be our OC in like 9 years :dunno:
Nah, they'll be talking about Mahomes passing the torch to him as the face of the league.
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I know this has been posted before but it needs to be in the Avery John “stone” thread. It looks like he told the one dude to “hold my stones” as he dragged D’s nuts all over his face. I could’ve actually put this in three threads. It was a very difficult decision.
[tweet]1544674837758705665[/tweet]?s=20&t=McqtKruJaHc8nCufIkLq-A
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https://twitter.com/avery2johnson/status/1544474647126736905
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The dude puts some zip on his ball.
https://twitter.com/JohnGarcia_Jr/status/1544413630787108865?s=20&t=B8sW_jIGYDRaNduQy5XyHw
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I think my favorite thing about Avery so far is his statement that he’s looking forward to spending his next 4…or 3 years at KSU.
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That is an awesome picture. I was thinking he was probably 6 or 7 in that picture and he is probably 17 years old now so 10 to 11 years ago was 2011 or 2012 which would have been right during the Colin Klein era.
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this thread title is disrespectful. what if he sees it and decides to transfer?? :frown:
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He has read gE for years. He knows how we roll
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Fix it, out of respect for him being a badass
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the amount of pressure he's walking into is huge. it's like mhk's lebron james. but just like lbj he seems like the chosen one, seems this is destined to work out. lol i need to chill on the nyquil
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Adorable
https://twitter.com/dent_hope/status/1544877923164995585?s=20&t=IamKxOwtWGaRfZBWhGYY9A
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Nothing really new but does mention that he would be inrolling early witch somebody else had already mentioned. For people sweating Dylan Edwards commitment, he also talked about Dylan Edwards being our number one recruiter.
https://youtu.be/5AjlHQYIwjI (https://youtu.be/5AjlHQYIwjI)
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Interesting podcast. John Hoover says Avery was in consideration for the MVP at the elite 11. Also a Matt boss goEMAW story.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kcsn-k-state-athletics/id1578347085?i=1000569198784 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kcsn-k-state-athletics/id1578347085?i=1000569198784)
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https://twitter.com/Rivals/status/1545857570912448514?s=20&t=draYt9jyHAo1UCx8_mMc6w
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Got the fastball on lock, needs a bit of work on the changeup
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Got the fastball on lock, needs a bit of work on the changeup
Like Mike.
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https://twitter.com/KWCHTejay/status/1546565986844872704?s=20&t=VhWJ0D8As23bbiwiKRuYUg
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https://twitter.com/Rivals/status/1545857570912448514?s=20&t=draYt9jyHAo1UCx8_mMc6w
lmao the receivers are so shitty :lol:
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I can’t wait to watch the mighty Newton Railers curbstomp Johnson and Edwards this season.
I kid.
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Railers is a hilarious name for a HS team
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Newton has never been good at anything, ever.
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Railer, i just met 'er
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Newton has never been good at anything, ever.
Most state bball championships.
But yes, rarely much better than average in any of the big sports, especially boys. Been pretty bad in everything the last several years.
3rd place at State in Wrestling (usually good) and Softball this year tho. Baseball also a winning record. Girls hoops was strong for a good bit and gymnastics has/had decent tradition. I don’t know if girls’ soccer is typically good, but three KSU soccer players were from Newton as of last season.
New fball coach who had success at Rose Hill and Campus coming in.
Also, see fine print in original post. It will be fun to watch Edwards and Johnson.
Shoutout to cat/NHS legends Nick Hoheisel, Ted Sims, Russ Vanover and Jordan Voelker. Voelker and Sims made two of the most iconic plays in KSU fball history.
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Railroaders
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Newton has never been good at anything, ever.
WTF :shakesfist: :shakesfist: just need to look back a few years, ok more than a few years back but still
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https://twitter.com/avery2johnson/status/1546996350285488128?s=20&t=MMjmHLmhtGkfmAGeNT-aLA
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He will be our OC in like 9 years :dunno:
He'll be like back when Pete Rose was a player/manager but he'll be coaching on Saturdays and playing on Sundays?
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The dude puts some zip on his ball.
https://twitter.com/JohnGarcia_Jr/status/1544413630787108865?s=20&t=B8sW_jIGYDRaNduQy5XyHw
Wow. Just kinda flicked that ball down field.
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https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/1549066605375766529?s=20&t=qYEp73MPEJoVoQGMY3wgOw
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Wonder if he will be upgraded to a five-star commit before he gets to compass next spring.
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Wonder if he will be upgraded to a five-star commit before he gets to compass next spring.
Aren’t there typically around 25 or less 5 Stars in a recruiting class? Don’t think he’ll make it that far, but could get some ratings boosts before signing day.
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Wonder if he will be upgraded to a five-star commit before he gets to compass next spring.
Aren’t there typically around 25 or less 5 Stars in a recruiting class? Don’t think he’ll make it that far, but could get some ratings boosts before signing day.
I didn't know that; is that per position?
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Wonder if he will be upgraded to a five-star commit before he gets to compass next spring.
Aren’t there typically around 25 or less 5 Stars in a recruiting class? Don’t think he’ll make it that far, but could get some ratings boosts before signing day.
I didn't know that; is that per position?
All positions.
Just looked and appears both Rivals and 24/7 have around 30-35 per year TOTAL. Each year looks like they were within 2 or so of each other.
2017: 34
2018: 33
2019: 30
2020: 34
2021: 31
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Wonder if he will be upgraded to a five-star commit before he gets to compass next spring.
Aren’t there typically around 25 or less 5 Stars in a recruiting class? Don’t think he’ll make it that far, but could get some ratings boosts before signing day.
I didn't know that; is that per position?
All positions.
Just looked and appears both Rivals and 24/7 have around 30-35 per year TOTAL. Each year looks like they were within 2 or so of each other.
2017: 34
2018: 33
2019: 30
2020: 34
2021: 31
So 5 stars are at the top level and must be very talented?
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Wonder if he will be upgraded to a five-star commit before he gets to compass next spring.
Aren’t there typically around 25 or less 5 Stars in a recruiting class? Don’t think he’ll make it that far, but could get some ratings boosts before signing day.
I didn't know that; is that per position?
All positions.
Just looked and appears both Rivals and 24/7 have around 30-35 per year TOTAL. Each year looks like they were within 2 or so of each other.
2017: 34
2018: 33
2019: 30
2020: 34
2021: 31
So 5 stars are at the top level and must be very talented?
Oh pappy, you’re gonna want to sit down when I tell you this……
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Wonder if he will be upgraded to a five-star commit before he gets to compass next spring.
Aren’t there typically around 25 or less 5 Stars in a recruiting class? Don’t think he’ll make it that far, but could get some ratings boosts before signing day.
I didn't know that; is that per position?
All positions.
Just looked and appears both Rivals and 24/7 have around 30-35 per year TOTAL. Each year looks like they were within 2 or so of each other.
2017: 34
2018: 33
2019: 30
2020: 34
2021: 31
So 5 stars are at the top level and must be very talented?
We've never had a five star, however I think we might have the least production from our top 10 recruits in all of college football. I mean it's been an abject disaster.
Look at this list.
https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/Sport/Football/AllTimeRecruits/
Freeman, at #9 was easily the best performer and as good as he was, he didn't live up to his rating either. Avery, needs to break the curse. Holy hell was Snyder a terrible evaluator of top end high school talent.
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I was going to say that Ayo Saba was pretty good but then I looked up his stats. I thought he did more. 8 TD's on 39 carries his freshman year and then fell off a cliff after that. Did he get injured or something?
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Crazy how many of those guys did absolutely nothing. It’s like a 90% fail rate. Marvin Simmons was listed twice.
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I was going to say that Ayo Saba was pretty good but then I looked up his stats. I thought he did more. 8 TD's on 39 carries his freshman year and then fell off a cliff after that. Did he get injured or something?
Not that I remember, he was just a niche player.
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Caution. Videos of Fitz are NSFW
https://youtu.be/vlil92uEYRI (https://youtu.be/vlil92uEYRI)
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https://twitter.com/avery2johnson/status/1553084447725060098?s=20&t=E-_ypzIBXzELkZfhuLuDug
(http://img.picturequotes.com/2/553/552862/tommy-boy-quote-1.jpg)
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Avery Johnson is the most significant recruit of the Chris Klieman era. I think we will look back at the moment in time as the beginning of the next decade of dominance.
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1558804470485639168?s=20&t=jN-z0O5sEuyB07ZQB1YKqQ
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That's a hot cover, gotta not sit right with the Edwards family.
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lol. I was thinking the same thing I hope Dylan enjoys being on the cover of the South Bend Tribune when they do a feature article on all the Wichita Kansas kids
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https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/1562077262245113856?s=20&t=ZLAohvZm62uRkfN1fbDMPg
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godddamn
The first quarterback to make this year’s list is Avery Johnson, who has testing numbers that most skill players dream of. In May at the Elite 11 Regional outside of Nashville, the Kansas-based gunslinger posted an eye-popping 4.56 on the lasers in the 40-yard dash. He then proceeded to clock a 4.24 in the 20-yard shuttle before topping things off with a 36.7-inch vertical jump. Those numbers were good enough for a 106.5 SPARQ score, which tops what both Lamar Jackson (83.31) and Jalen Hurts (82.71) totaled when back when they were in 11th grade.
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https://twitter.com/sullyengels/status/1562297268304240641?s=20&t=GVrSHlkwaWTj1hyqm-V3sA
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Man I really really hope he plays for us.
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Gonna love having Avery in purple.
https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/1564283557261955072?s=20&t=1ey54UAM7By8Yt16wneD4A
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Mods! Please remove the “what if” from the thread title.
https://twitter.com/KStateRecruits/status/1564325523924439041?s=20&t=fx4JEJzRE7Uf7Uf3giLLpA
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Does anyone think that Avery Johnson has an NIL deal with bass pro shop?
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No
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https://twitter.com/solvingfootball/status/1566132378065518592?s=20&t=NguHjWU1_E0I_oEyvaaCMA
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Bro’s! Dat spin rate
https://twitter.com/wibwKatie/status/1566161775455862786?s=20&t=W4bAqkZp8rz4zWbPLdiGjw
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https://twitter.com/KWCHMatt/status/1566154672066412545?s=20&t=UtrnrUUt5yxbA4s4PP8Q0A
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bartscottcantwait
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https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/1566266557050896385?s=20&t=BonN7wnRSZ5s9Aet0oP84Q
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I always wondered if we were the only fan base that requires constant affirmation from our commits that they are not decommitting. Reeks of insecurity in my IMHO
https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1566477407904845825?s=20&t=aujzvGOKdtxCgdOJeWN3VA
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I always wondered if we were the only fan base that requires constant affirmation from our commits that they are not decommitting. Reeks of insecurity in my IMHO
https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1566477407904845825?s=20&t=aujzvGOKdtxCgdOJeWN3VA
Have you forgotten about 110% committed Edwards already? Affirmation is comforting.
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Who gives a crap. Welcome to the big leagues. The only place you’re 100% sure about your commit is if your school was a reach in the first place.
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I always wondered if we were the only fan base that requires constant affirmation from our commits that they are not decommitting. Reeks of insecurity in my IMHO
https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1566477407904845825?s=20&t=aujzvGOKdtxCgdOJeWN3VA
Have you forgotten about 110% committed Edwards already? Affirmation is comforting.
K-State fans will forever whine about this, meanwhile the article talks about the staff and by extension Avery talking to players who are committed elsewhere.
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I always wondered if we were the only fan base that requires constant affirmation from our commits that they are not decommitting. Reeks of insecurity in my IMHO
https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1566477407904845825?s=20&t=aujzvGOKdtxCgdOJeWN3VA
It's embarrassing
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You really think it's embarrassing that Klein calls and texts him on a regular basis for reassurance? You guys would be terrible recruiters. 17-18 year olds are very fickle.
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You really think it's embarrassing that Klein calls and texts him on a regular basis for reassurance? You guys would be terrible recruiters. 17-18 year olds are very fickle.
Agree with this
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I don't think it's bad coaches check in. Am annoyed by some people on twitter regarding it though
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You really think it's embarrassing that Klein calls and texts him on a regular basis for reassurance? You guys would be terrible recruiters. 17-18 year olds are very fickle.
No. Everybody knows coaches are in constant contact with recruits.
It’s embarrassing that every time something potentially negative happens at Kansas state, our recruiting analyst at the fansites call the recruits and ask if they are decommitting and Fan forums blowup with fans worried about kids decommitting. Similarly, it’s embarrassing that every time we have a smidgen of success on the field, our fan forums blow up with fans wanting us to pay our coaches more or worried about somebody poaching our coaches.
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You really think it's embarrassing that Klein calls and texts him on a regular basis for reassurance? You guys would be terrible recruiters. 17-18 year olds are very fickle.
Agree with this
You really think that is what I meant? Hell, with the transfer portal, they don’t stop recruiting the kids even after an NLI is signed and they have enrolled and are on campus taking classes
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You really think it's embarrassing that Klein calls and texts him on a regular basis for reassurance? You guys would be terrible recruiters. 17-18 year olds are very fickle.
No. Everybody knows coaches are in constant contact with recruits.
It’s embarrassing that every time something potentially negative happens at Kansas state, our recruiting analyst at the fansites call the recruits and ask if they are decommitting and Fan forums blowup with fans worried about kids decommitting. Similarly, it’s embarrassing that every time we have a smidgen of success on the field, our fan forums blow up with fans wanting us to pay our coaches more or worried about somebody poaching our coaches.
I would be surprised if this were the exception rather than the rule.
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You really think it's embarrassing that Klein calls and texts him on a regular basis for reassurance? You guys would be terrible recruiters. 17-18 year olds are very fickle.
Agree with this
You really think that is what I meant? Hell, with the transfer portal, they don’t stop recruiting the kids even after an NLI is signed and they have enrolled and are on campus taking classes
No I don't think that's what you were referring to, just agreeing with dougie, we generally don't agree with each other's takes. I also agree with you that our fan base are largely filled with people that have an inferiority complex. Fitz and Derek Young definitely feed into it. I guess it's easier to do that than to tell your customers they have an inferiority complex.
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You really think it's embarrassing that Klein calls and texts him on a regular basis for reassurance? You guys would be terrible recruiters. 17-18 year olds are very fickle.
No. Everybody knows coaches are in constant contact with recruits.
It’s embarrassing that every time something potentially negative happens at Kansas state, our recruiting analyst at the fansites call the recruits and ask if they are decommitting and Fan forums blowup with fans worried about kids decommitting. Similarly, it’s embarrassing that every time we have a smidgen of success on the field, our fan forums blow up with fans wanting us to pay our coaches more or worried about somebody poaching our coaches.
I would be surprised if this were the exception rather than the rule.
That is what I was wondering. I only follow Kansas State so everything becomes much more exaggerated than other schools. This may happen everywhere. I also like that our fansites contact, attend games and promote the recruits as much as possible. I view our fansites as an extension of our coaches recruiting efforts. It just seems like contacting them with the sole purpose of asking them if they are decommitting and then publishing a headline that says said recruit is not decommitting seems insecure and sends a message to the recruit that we don’t think we’re a good enough program to keep them from decommitting when other schools offer or other kids decommit. Just my IMHO.
I do wonder, now that we have three legitimate fansites as well as the newspaper beat writers, do recruits ever get tired of being contacted requesting interviews and comments. I wouldn’t think so, but that is a lot of people asking for their time.
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You really think it's embarrassing that Klein calls and texts him on a regular basis for reassurance? You guys would be terrible recruiters. 17-18 year olds are very fickle.
Agree with this
You really think that is what I meant? Hell, with the transfer portal, they don’t stop recruiting the kids even after an NLI is signed and they have enrolled and are on campus taking classes
No I don't think that's what you were referring to, just agreeing with dougie, we generally don't agree with each other's takes. I also agree with you that our fan base are largely filled with people that have an inferiority complex. Fitz and Derek Young definitely feed into it. I guess it's easier to do that than to tell your customers they have an inferiority complex.
lol
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https://twitter.com/avery2johnson/status/1566903439476547585?s=20&t=rSJmOKiuuqJih6DLM16MsA
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Avery is going to be the head of like an 11 headed monster or something like that but more mythical sounding idk I didn’t study the classics go cats
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Hail hail hail Alma Hydra
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You really think it's embarrassing that Klein calls and texts him on a regular basis for reassurance? You guys would be terrible recruiters. 17-18 year olds are very fickle.
I don't disagree with this at all. I just thought it looked corny on Twitter.
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Hail hail hail Alma Hydra
Lol what I was thinking
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Most of you may have already seen this, but I had not. It was premium content until made public recently on GoPo’s YouTube page. Interesting look behind the scenes on Avery’s commitment day. Pretty mature young man.
https://youtu.be/9TDEhG6PxLg (https://youtu.be/9TDEhG6PxLg)
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Very cool. Check out that Notre Dame poster over his bed :eek:
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https://twitter.com/tayloreldridge/status/1568400669299691520
sheeeesh
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https://twitter.com/tayloreldridge/status/1568408815187394561
the ball just flies through the air differently
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https://twitter.com/MahomesEnjoyer/status/1568420823505010688
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50 yards, if that.
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https://twitter.com/Elite11/status/1569391860489289729?s=20&t=8_fgkJKqVBnLJIHwKz_aJg
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avery: bombs like waters, wheels like roberson
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My goodness, what an amazing young man. The kid is probably more mature than 50% of our fan base.
https://twitter.com/Stanimal032/status/1573766371258793985?s=20&t=3ZYQiAtLr2Wal5yrQYC6BA
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He's already a top 5 cat OAT for me
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:love: :love:
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Christmas is just around the corner, Fellers
https://twitter.com/SteveLutjemeier/status/1574433339129401344?s=20&t=mc3SEdWj-t9psLRh9j-h5w
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My goodness, what an amazing young man. The kid is probably more mature than 50% of our fan base.
https://twitter.com/Stanimal032/status/1573766371258793985?s=20&t=3ZYQiAtLr2Wal5yrQYC6BA
Unbelievably cool.
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I’ve already talked myself into him starting game one for 2023.
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I’ve already talked myself into him starting game one for 2023.
Me too
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https://youtu.be/m8rFfrEw4XI
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https://youtu.be/m8rFfrEw4XI
That 30 second mark play :love:
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Wow! He makes it look so effortless. What a phenomenal talent. Count me as being on the “starter day one” bandwagon.
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i'm loving all his rolling to the left and throwing absolute missiles
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like how is he not going to be successful? all the talent in the world, work ethic, competitive, amazing human being. it's a lock
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I love avery when he tight spirals. i love him more.
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He’s coming in January right? Hope he has a good spring and is able to put on 15-20 lbs. guessing he’s gonna need to start next year.
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He’s coming in January right? Hope he has a good spring and is able to put on 15-20 lbs. guessing he’s gonna need to start next year.
Yeah, I'm worried he will get broken in the CK7 battering ram offense unless he puts on at least 30lbs.
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CK will have a field day with Avery’s abilities. There’s absolutely no need for a battering ram offense.
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CK will have a field day with Avery’s abilities. There’s absolutely no need for a battering ram offense.
Desperately need some WRs
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Yeah. Good day for it’s the recorders crowd
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CK will have a field day with Avery’s abilities. There’s absolutely no need for a battering ram offense.
This reminds me of Herm Edwards when, after being named HC of the chiefs, swore up and down that he wouldn't force his ball control, running-based offensive playbook onto a very successful Dick Vermeil unit. The following year Larry Johnson broke the record for carries in a season and was never the same again
I wouldn't use "adaptable" to describe CK so far, hopefully that changes
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He’s coming in January right? Hope he has a good spring and is able to put on 15-20 lbs. guessing he’s gonna need to start next year.
Yeah, I'm worried he will get broken in the CK7 battering ram offense unless he puts on at least 30lbs.
He needs that probably regardless.
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He's 17 years old, he'll be fine.
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CK will have a field day with Avery’s abilities. There’s absolutely no need for a battering ram offense.
Who is he going to throw it to?
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Idk maybe that fullback we keep throwing it to.
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CK will have a field day with Avery’s abilities. There’s absolutely no need for a battering ram offense.
This reminds me of Herm Edwards when, after being named HC of the chiefs, swore up and down that he wouldn't force his ball control, running-based offensive playbook onto a very successful Dick Vermeil unit. The following year Larry Johnson broke the record for carries in a season and was never the same again
I wouldn't use "adaptable" to describe CK so far, hopefully that changes
I recall reading that Klein in an interview alluded to his creativity being held back. Would not be surprised if Klieman is behind the predictable playcalling and taking 0 shots in the redzone
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Omg guys. :drool:
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How could you watch Avery tonight and think next year we should play Will Howard.
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How could you watch Avery tonight
It would have been rough ridin' nice. The kshsaa is AIDS.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y5vyyDAtcM&ab_channel=KSNTV
did the "#1" recruit in kansas even play? :confused:
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So did we not offer Bryce Cohoon? Why? He looked good last night. Plus burner level speed in track.. :confused:
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So did we not offer Bryce Cohoon? Why? He looked good last night. Plus burner level speed in track.. :confused:
We slow played him for manning and he committed to Syracuse then Manning went to Mizzou…
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How did that little Notre Dame running back from Derby do? I didn't see him in the highlights.
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How did that little Notre Dame running back from Derby do? I didn't see him in the highlights.
I haven’t seen his final stats for the night, but he had some key plays and scores for them….Both catching and running the ball. His jukes and elusiveness are elite.
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he rough ridin' sucks crap
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https://twitter.com/avery2johnson/status/1579626669052395520
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https://twitter.com/kakenews/status/1602777908409380866?s=61&t=EPz_nx4fVrEIiNKpwktgSQ
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If CK x2 and Avery don’t take us to a Natty. We’re never making one.
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If CK x2 and Avery don’t take us to a Natty. We’re never making one.
Don’t do this to yourself. We should be very happy with one Big 12 championship from him, and even that is very hard to do.
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i’d love and somewhat expect to see at least two big 12’s and one national championship appearance
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Why settle for 2nd when 1st is available?
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Man, I love him so much. Someone needs to tell him that he can and should be getting paid to do that.
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I don't necessarily need a championship out of Avery, but I would really like a playoff appearance. I think it's pretty achievable in the new format and would potentially be achievable in the current one.
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I don't necessarily need a championship out of Avery, but I would really like a playoff appearance. I think it's pretty achievable in the new format and would potentially be achievable in the current one.
We will probably be going to the new playoffs every year.
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Our recruiting is still like 8th out of 10.
We need to do better.
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We’re a year away from competing for conference title = competing for a playoff spot. We’ll get there. Heck I’d be surprised if half the Big 12 doesn’t land there at some point over the first 10 years of the expanded format.
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Our recruiting is still like 8th out of 10.
We need to do better.
Last I checked we are 29th in rivals, that’s worse than 7 other big 12 teams?
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Our recruiting is still like 8th out of 10.
We need to do better.
Last I checked we are 29th in rivals, that’s worse than 7 other big 12 teams?
They show us 7/10.
On3 has us at 8
247 has us at 7
I think this is a great class for us. They need to sustain this level though if they expect to have high level of success like we want.
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After we whip Bama's ass in a couple of weeks, all of 'cruits will gain another star.
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We can - and have - won despite being 7th-10th in recruiting rankings in the conference. The difference with this class is that while we're still 7th-8th, the gap is much, much narrower than it was when our classes were ranked in the 40s-60s and everyone else was inside the top 30.
If we can recruit classes inside the top 30-35 consistently, we're going to be very well positioned to compete for league titles/playoff spots on an annual basis.
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Man, I love him so much. Someone needs to tell him that he can and should be getting paid to do that.
Part of what makes this special is because he doesn't get paid. Why ruin it? He'll get his payday soon enough. Lord.
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Man, I love him so much. Someone needs to tell him that he can and should be getting paid to do that.
Part of what makes this special is because he doesn't get paid. Why ruin it? He'll get his payday soon enough. Lord.
Yes! Jesus Christ - if we are getting to the point of appearance fees for 10-year old birthday parties than y'all can eff right off.
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Man, I love him so much. Someone needs to tell him that he can and should be getting paid to do that.
Part of what makes this special is because he doesn't get paid. Why ruin it? He'll get his payday soon enough. Lord.
Yes! Jesus Christ - if we are getting to the point of appearance fees for 10-year old birthday parties than y'all can eff right off.
Yeah, it's cool that he's doing this now. It was a two sentence post that you two managed to miss the first sentence of while getting outraged.
However, the more he does this the more people will expect it. You guys ever meet a college athlete? Their time is extremely valuable. However, he needs to know that it's perfectly okay to be more protective of his time and not listen to people who will shame him when he inevitably does.
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Man, I love him so much. Someone needs to tell him that he can and should be getting paid to do that.
Part of what makes this special is because he doesn't get paid. Why ruin it? He'll get his payday soon enough. Lord.
Yes! Jesus Christ - if we are getting to the point of appearance fees for 10-year old birthday parties than y'all can eff right off.
Yeah, it's cool that he's doing this now. It was a two sentence post that you two managed to miss the first sentence of while getting outraged.
However, the more he does this the more people will expect it. You guys ever meet a college athlete? Their time is extremely valuable. However, he needs to know that it's perfectly okay to be more protective of his time and not listen to people who will shame him when he inevitably does.
one of the weirdest things about college football fans is that they will watch 4 hours of amateur, uncompensated athletes ritually harming their brains for a cartel every saturday then turn around and say that players finally being compensated ruins the wholesomeness.
dude, we've been shipping these guys out to scott city and crap for fundraising events, autograph sessions and meet/greets with donors in MHK, open practices, *unpaid* all in an effort to make our program more flush with cash, STFU. if a player wants to charge $75 an hour to show up at your dumb kids birthday party and that bothers you then take it up w/ capitalism, not sure what to tell you
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if a college football player came to my birthday party, I would give him a bag of cash (counterfeit) and then probably talk about sports and video games. after that, we’d go pull some pelts from the bar. 100% real talk here, no bs.
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Man, I love him so much. Someone needs to tell him that he can and should be getting paid to do that.
Part of what makes this special is because he doesn't get paid. Why ruin it? He'll get his payday soon enough. Lord.
Yes! Jesus Christ - if we are getting to the point of appearance fees for 10-year old birthday parties than y'all can eff right off.
Yeah, it's cool that he's doing this now. It was a two sentence post that you two managed to miss the first sentence of while getting outraged.
However, the more he does this the more people will expect it. You guys ever meet a college athlete? Their time is extremely valuable. However, he needs to know that it's perfectly okay to be more protective of his time and not listen to people who will shame him when he inevitably does.
I read your first sentence but maybe you didn't read all of mine? The kid is still in high school and did a nice thing, period. It is great to see and I appreciate your love for him. When he gets to college and starts having to do fundraising events etc etc, by all means pay the kid. There was hardly any outrage but I know how you like to make things more dramatic than they are.
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https://twitter.com/BallySports/status/1604224739769212928
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https://twitter.com/BallySports/status/1604224739769212928
Sheesh
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the real cheetah
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The East defense is basically Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee commits and he torched them, holy crap.
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Doubling down on my “if no natty appearance under Avery it’s not happening” predicto.
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Read on Alabama message board that several of their Spring enrollees are on campus and started practicing with the team for the bowl game. Not sure if these is of any value, but I think having Avery travel with the bowl team could give him some eyeball experience.
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Read on Alabama message board that several of their Spring enrollees are on campus and started practicing with the team for the bowl game. Not sure if these is of any value, but I think having Avery travel with the bowl team could give him some eyeball experience.
That definitely isn't true. They might be doing that starting next week, but I even question the legality of that given they aren't enrolled. But we haven't had signing day yet, if they have players practicing with the team, someone should call the NCAA.
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Is part of new twitter putting still shots of dementia ads before the football video starts?
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Here's hoping he gets a couple (or more) of these as well
https://twitter.com/avery2johnson/status/1605252232408174593
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Here's hoping he gets a couple (or more) of these as well
https://twitter.com/avery2johnson/status/1605252232408174593
nice pic!
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Damn Klieman is short
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Damn Klieman is short
Maybe it's one of these deals?
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Man I love that pic.
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Here's hoping he gets a couple (or more) of these as well
https://twitter.com/avery2johnson/status/1605252232408174593
My God that kid has got such a wonderful smile
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When Avery gets in the Cat gym and eating biscuits every morning, he will be a force to be reckoned with.
Edit: I hope we're in a position to redshirt him
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When Avery gets in the Cat gym and eating biscuits every morning, he will be a force to be reckoned with.
Edit: I hope we're in a position to redshirt him
The redshirt question kind of depends on if Rubley stays or if we get some other decent backup in the portal (doubtful). I can't remember the last time we had a QB stay healthy all year but that probably has something to do with our old Battering Ram offense.
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Kirk Cousins and Lamar Jackson were both 6'3" 200 when they were drafted, I can't imagine they were heavier than Avery's 175 when they were high school seniors.
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It's crazy to me that Lamar is that tall
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I think Avery Johnson has a great chance to develop into a Dennis Dixon type college QB. Same height, and Dixon matured into his 6-3, 195 lb frame. Similar 40-time/breakaway speed (Johnson may be faster). Similar beautiful deep ball.
Turd quality highlight video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VqAKYZuIE0
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Good comp, I hope their careers don't end the same :cry:
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Good comp, I hope their careers don't end the same :cry:
He got a super bowl ring!
Also I'm pretty sure he visited k-state as a recruit
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Biscuits all day every day
There aren’t many other long-haired freshmen walking from one class to the next with the physique of a strong-armed quarterback. Even if he does have a doppelganger located somewhere in his new college town, you can easily tell them apart because Johnson is the one carrying a bag filled with protein bars and he is also probably stuffing his face like Brad Pitt’s character in the movie “Ocean’s 11.” Now that Johnson has enrolled a semester early to jump-start his college football career after a sensational four years at Maize High School, he is trying to bulk up. That means eating 5,000 calories each day. “Trying to stay on top of my diet has been my hardest challenge so far,” Johnson said. “My backpack is full of snacks. I wouldn’t want to sit next to me in class, because that is literally all I do. I am crunching through my back, eating all kinds of stuff and trying to get the next thing open.”
Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article272024587.html#storylink=cpy
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Avery and Keagon = Johnson & Johnson
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MORE BISCUITS
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1633184791599239169?t=GENrCcbqjtmFQObov1LtcQ&s=19
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being forced to add 15 lbs and still look great is some kind of dream
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Just get him to like 200 lbs before September without losing his athleticism and we Gucci
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Still needs to add about 35lbs and he will be a 4 time Heisman trophy winner
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He is not an OLineman; jesus, lay off. We do want him to keep his speed in both feet and arms.
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I don't want him running unless absolutely required. Add the biscuits. He needs to be 205 next year.
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I don't want him running unless absolutely required. Add the biscuits. He needs to be 205 next year.
Doesn't really matter, since you guys got Thrill Howard back this season.
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I don't want him running unless absolutely required. Add the biscuits. He needs to be 205 next year.
Doesn't really matter, since you guys got Thrill Howard back this season.
Given this offense and our luck? We need as many irons in the fire as possible
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I don't want him running unless absolutely required. Add the biscuits. He needs to be 205 next year.
Doesn't really matter, since you guys got Thrill Howard back this season.
Given this offense and our luck? We need as many irons in the fire as possible
Yea we pretty much never have a QB play the full season, I hope Rubley is ready.
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I don't want him running unless absolutely required. Add the biscuits. He needs to be 205 next year.
Doesn't really matter, since you guys got Thrill Howard back this season.
Given this offense and our luck? We need as many irons in the fire as possible
Yea we pretty much never have a QB play the full season, I hope Rubley is ready.
If Howard can't make it through a full season without geting injured then I don't see one of our QBs ever doing it. He's 6'5"/235 playing behind would could be the best O-line in the country and he and our OC have a throw-first mentality. I think we'll still see 3-5 designed QB runs a game, but he won't be put a risk on a frequent basis.
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I don't want him running unless absolutely required. Add the biscuits. He needs to be 205 next year.
Doesn't really matter, since you guys got Thrill Howard back this season.
Given this offense and our luck? We need as many irons in the fire as possible
Yea we pretty much never have a QB play the full season, I hope Rubley is ready.
I’ve got faith in Rubley if called upon. CK has a pretty great track record of developing QBs.
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I don't want him running unless absolutely required. Add the biscuits. He needs to be 205 next year.
Doesn't really matter, since you guys got Thrill Howard back this season.
Given this offense and our luck? We need as many irons in the fire as possible
Yea we pretty much never have a QB play the full season, I hope Rubley is ready.
I’ve got faith in Rubley if called upon. CK has a pretty great track record of developing QBs.
He certainly has done a good job with Will, but I hardly call that a "track record". Now if Rubley has taken a significant step forward this year I would agree with that statement.
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Kleiman has coached I think 4 NFL QBs already. It is absolutely a track record and a pretty incredible one.
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Kleiman has coached I think 4 NFL QBs already. It is absolutely a track record and a pretty incredible one.
Apologies. I took that as Collin Klein.
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I don't want him running unless absolutely required. Add the biscuits. He needs to be 205 next year.
Doesn't really matter, since you guys got Thrill Howard back this season.
Given this offense and our luck? We need as many irons in the fire as possible
Yea we pretty much never have a QB play the full season, I hope Rubley is ready.
If Howard can't make it through a full season without geting injured then I don't see one of our QBs ever doing it. He's 6'5"/235 playing behind would could be the best O-line in the country and he and our OC have a throw-first mentality. I think we'll still see 3-5 designed QB runs a game, but he won't be put a risk on a frequent basis.
O line will be good, but they definitely won't be the best in the country.
I do have faith that Will can stay healthy. Appears we've mostly gotten away from the QB battering ram offense.
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I don't want him running unless absolutely required. Add the biscuits. He needs to be 205 next year.
Doesn't really matter, since you guys got Thrill Howard back this season.
Given this offense and our luck? We need as many irons in the fire as possible
Yea we pretty much never have a QB play the full season, I hope Rubley is ready.
If Howard can't make it through a full season without geting injured then I don't see one of our QBs ever doing it. He's 6'5"/235 playing behind would could be the best O-line in the country and he and our OC have a throw-first mentality. I think we'll still see 3-5 designed QB runs a game, but he won't be put a risk on a frequent basis.
O line will be good, but they definitely won't be the best in the country.
I do have faith that Will can stay healthy. Appears we've mostly gotten away from the QB battering ram offense.
If they do have designed plays for him to run, I hope it's to run like a QB and not like a running back. The "old ball coach"Steve Spurrier of South Carolina would pull a QB if they didn't slide when he had to run. He was also pulling a QB if he trained eyes on his reciever during the play. And if anybody knew about QBing it was Spurrier.
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This dude needs to catch passes. We are lacking in playmakers.
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Guys
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Avery is a rough ridin' freak. He's gonna compete for heismans when he becomes the starter. We aren't gonna be able to keep him off the field. He is basically Mahomes and we are just #blessed to have this DUDE.
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Avery is a rough ridin' freak. He's gonna compete for heismans when he becomes the starter. We aren't gonna be able to keep him off the field. He is basically Mahomes and we are just #blessed to have this DUDE.
Not even gE on this he looked like he belonged and was so comfortable being out there. Was incredible to see
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Avery is a rough ridin' freak. He's gonna compete for heismans when he becomes the starter. We aren't gonna be able to keep him off the field. He is basically Mahomes and we are just #blessed to have this DUDE.
Not even gE on this he looked like he belonged and was so comfortable being out there. Was incredible to see
He looked like a kid having fun playing backyard football that just happens to be better than all the other kids.
When the SEMO lb had a bead on him and he just kind of ran a little faster to get away and turn the corner looked like literal child’s play. That little juke to tip-toe combo on his TD was incredibly fun too. And that deep throw :muah!
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How tall is AJ? When they showed him and WH on the sidelines, he looked taller than 6'5" Howard.
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Needs some biscuits
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Looked definitely shorter to me but still over 6’ 2”
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Very impressive debut for the young man out of Maize. The sky is the limit for him.
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Is this thread full of ICT metroplex cats all overly jacked on AJ because it's from one of their high schools?
That said I can't wait to watch this dude plan full time. :Wha:
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I remember when people lost their crap, on this board, when I said he would be starting this year. Will Howard turned into superman since I made that proclamation, but I'm not certain he's the best QB on this roster. Avery's arm is absolutely sick.
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The way Kleiman answered questions about Avery in the postgame presser made me think that Avery is a badass in practice and Kleiman wanted to see if it translates to a game.
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We need to get AJ some weapons in a bad way. My concern is he has a brand new O-line and we lose Sinnott and Brooks for his debut next year. Definitely needs some more biscuits. That said, kind of looked like Jonny Football out there. He wasn't exactly a big QB either.....
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I think if you put Avery on film a couple more times, WRs will line up
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We need to get AJ some weapons in a bad way. My concern is he has a brand new O-line and we lose Sinnott and Brooks for his debut next year. Definitely needs some more biscuits. That said, kind of looked like Jonny Football out there. He wasn't exactly a big QB either.....
Is it reasonable to think that AJ would perform better this season w/out a year of practice than he would next season with said year of reps, because of the OL issues you mentioned? I would say, yes.
That said, I have immense faith in this coaching staff.
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We need to get AJ some weapons in a bad way. My concern is he has a brand new O-line and we lose Sinnott and Brooks for his debut next year. Definitely needs some more biscuits. That said, kind of looked like Jonny Football out there. He wasn't exactly a big QB either.....
I think we're going to be pretty healthy at WR for the foreseeable future. Keegan, RJ, Spivey, Jayce Brown...The younger part of our WR room is in the best shape it's been in in a long long time. And CK hasn't been shy about hitting the portal for WRs if need-be -- and given Avery's hype, we should be a relatively attractive destination. But I'm pretty comfortable with our anticipated WR group in '24 as is. And maybe BEN leaves early, but he's a junior this year.
OL is a bit of a concern, but it was always going to be a concern when you lose 4 starters. Plus Leingang and other young guys (e.g. Hecht) have gotten plenty of time early in their careers. I think Avery will have plenty to work with from a #weapons perspective.
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I am conflicted.....
I want to see AJ play as much as possible this season because he is an explosive and exciting player.
I would also want him to only play in 4 games so he can redshirt while eating all the biscuits to bulk up for next year....but then again if he really is that DUDE the redshirt won't matter because he will be in the league after 3 years.
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I think redshirting is effectively obsolete for bigtime players anymore -- especially skill position players.
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I think it's more likely that the OL is pretty good next year than it is that they suck. Our coaches seem to do a pretty good job there.
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I guess it depends on how he feels, but yeah, probably not worth the redshirt.
Also, I think we got a good shot of getting plenty of weapons down the line. I am more worried about a new oline than anything.
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I think redshirting is effectively obsolete for bigtime players anymore -- especially skill position players.
I don't think you should plan your season around it, but it's also not worth putting anyone into their 5th game during garbage time if they aren't a starter. Sometimes people get injured and that extra year of eligibility can be the difference between having a pro career or not having one.
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how on earth could someone watch like, two plays of Avery and think he needed to be redshirted.
good grief
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I think redshirting is effectively obsolete for bigtime players anymore -- especially skill position players.
I don't think you should plan your season around it, but it's also not worth putting anyone into their 5th game during garbage time if they aren't a starter. Sometimes people get injured and that extra year of eligibility can be the difference between having a pro career or not having one.
Most accurate answer
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We need to get AJ some weapons in a bad way. My concern is he has a brand new O-line and we lose Sinnott and Brooks for his debut next year. Definitely needs some more biscuits. That said, kind of looked like Jonny Football out there. He wasn't exactly a big QB either.....
Our OL depth is ridiculously deep and Tre Spivey looks like he could be a #1 receiver as early as next season. RJ Garcia is a sophomore.
I don't know what the fascination is with this board and Avery's weight. Y'all have beat the word biscuits to death, it stopped being clever years ago. He's one game into his freshman year at college, he'll be fine, we don't need to mention it every day.
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I mean we haven't even seen Keagan Johnson yet and he will have Sinnot next year too. Plus with the transfer portal you are only an off season away from an elite #1 receiver.
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I think redshirting is effectively obsolete for bigtime players anymore -- especially skill position players.
Agree.
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Maybe not on Sinnot. I think it was the 3MAW podcast that said he's already the #3 TE on Kiper's board :surprised:
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Maybe not on Sinnot. I think it was the 3MAW podcast that said he's already the #3 TE on Kiper's board :surprised:
The Athletic's guy had him at No. 2...
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He gone
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I feel really good about our WR's.
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I think redshirting is effectively obsolete for bigtime players anymore -- especially skill position players.
I don't think you should plan your season around it, but it's also not worth putting anyone into their 5th game during garbage time if they aren't a starter. Sometimes people get injured and that extra year of eligibility can be the difference between having a pro career or not having one.
Sure. If all else is equal, you might as well put in Rubley or Knuth or Lara (!!) in for mop up duty against Kansas or whomever if Avery's been in 4 games already. But if we actually legit need to put in our backup qb for any meaningful snaps, I hope it's Avery (assuming coaches believe he's the second best option we've got).
Point is, if Avery is our answer at QB next year (and currently the second best option we have at QB), then we probably shouldn't be banking on him being around for his RS Senior season. Making decisions today based on who is going to be our QB in 2027 just seems too far off anymore.
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We need to get AJ some weapons in a bad way. My concern is he has a brand new O-line and we lose Sinnott and Brooks for his debut next year. Definitely needs some more biscuits. That said, kind of looked like Jonny Football out there. He wasn't exactly a big QB either.....
Our OL depth is ridiculously deep and Tre Spivey looks like he could be a #1 receiver as early as next season. RJ Garcia is a sophomore.
I don't know what the fascination is with this board and Avery's weight. Y'all have beat the word biscuits to death, it stopped being clever years ago. He's one game into his freshman year at college, he'll be fine, we don't need to mention it every day.
BISCUITS
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We need to get AJ some weapons in a bad way. My concern is he has a brand new O-line and we lose Sinnott and Brooks for his debut next year. Definitely needs some more biscuits. That said, kind of looked like Jonny Football out there. He wasn't exactly a big QB either.....
Our OL depth is ridiculously deep and Tre Spivey looks like he could be a #1 receiver as early as next season. RJ Garcia is a sophomore.
I don't know what the fascination is with this board and Avery's weight. Y'all have beat the word biscuits to death, it stopped being clever years ago. He's one game into his freshman year at college, he'll be fine, we don't need to mention it every day.
Yeah, Avery's weight doesn't concern me in the slightest, tbh. He's already got all the physical tools he needs to play QB. I think really the only reason to put more weight on him is for durability purposes, and I'm not really sure how much value there is in that anyway.
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He needs to stay skinny so he’s max fast
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He needs to stay skinny so he’s max fast
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A couple of sensible injections along with some biscuits could allow him to be max fast and bigger :dunno:
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Everyone is talking like Will is definitely gone after this season. Is he on any mock drafts? I can't see him transferring.
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Everyone is talking like Will is definitely gone after this season. Is he on any mock drafts? I can't see him transferring.
Who is talking like that? I assume he'll be back
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I think Will probably goes pro. He's going to have a monster season.
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Everyone is talking like Will is definitely gone after this season. Is he on any mock drafts? I can't see him transferring.
Who is talking like that? I assume he'll be back
Everyone. I mentioned this in my post.
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I thought it's will's senior season?
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I thought it's will's senior season?
He's got a covid year if he wants it.
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I thought it's will's senior season?
Yeah, is this like a Covid thing or wtf are you guys all talking about?
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The game has passed us by old dave
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He's 100% going pro and will be a day 2 draft pick.
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The game has passed us by old dave
Apparently
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His brother is coming next season, wonder if would keep him here another year (obviously depending on his season and draft projections)
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What if he gets drafted after this year and we only have him for one year because he is so good? :sdeek:
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What if he gets drafted after this year and we only have him for one year because he is so good? :sdeek:
The NFL rules don't allow anyone to get drafted until they're 3 years out of high school.
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What if he gets drafted after this year and we only have him for one year because he is so good? :sdeek:
The NFL rules don't allow anyone to get drafted until they're 3 years out of high school.
I know, my point is he might be good enough where the NFL changes the rules :sdeek:
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Had no idea Sinnott was that far up the TE draft board, we have an embarrassment of riches on this roster right now. Might be approaching DOD level draft classes. Could legit have 5 dudes drafted in 2024 from the offense alone.
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Will Howard might just win the damned Heisman, and he might not even be the best QB on the team. My gawd.
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He's 100% going pro and will be a day 2 draft pick.
Howard? For real?
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He's 100% going pro and will be a day 2 draft pick.
Howard? For real?
Did you not watch him play last year?
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He's 100% going pro and will be a day 2 draft pick.
Howard? For real?
Did you not watch him play last year?
Yes I watched him play last year but I didn't realize he was a day 2 pick.
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I guess it's possible he goes day 1. :dunno:
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He's 100% going pro and will be a day 2 draft pick.
Howard? For real?
Did you not watch him play last year?
Yes I watched him play last year but I didn't realize he was a day 2 pick.
The draft gurus aren't sold yet, but if Howard produces for an entire season at the rate he did last year, he's going to shoot up boards given his size, arm strength, "intangibles" etc.
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I bet he gets picked on one of the days of the draft, not sure which one yet, tho.
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Remember Will's freshman year when he tripped over one of the painted lines on the field all by himself.
They grow up fast fellas!
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Remember Will's freshman year when he tripped over one of the painted lines on the field all by himself.
They grow up fast fellas!
He was just a big ole lab puppy learning how to walk.
Now he is a full grown beauty that wins all the best in show and bird dog competitions.
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Remember Will's freshman year when he tripped over one of the painted lines on the field all by himself.
They grow up fast fellas!
He was just a big ole lab puppy learning how to walk.
Now he is a full grown beauty that wins all the best in show and bird dog competitions.
!!
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I guess it's possible he goes day 1. :dunno:
Yeah, the 2023 draft class for QBs was crazy weak. I hate watched Kentucky a fair amount last year, especially late in the season and there isn't a person in the world who watched Will Levis and Will Howard and would think that Levis is significantly better than Howard, I don't think he's better at all and Howard will interview much better than hardo Levis did. Levis had the advantage of being in one of the weakest QB classes in recent memory. If Howard comes out after this season he'll be in one of the strongest.
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If you had told me on September 1st 2022 that Will Howard would start half our games and lead us to a Big12 championship by slinging the ball around the field like a boss I would have laughed in your face.
It still blows my mind how much Will Howard improved last year.
This will forever be one of my favorite Kstate moments because that's when I finally believed in him.
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I’ve always been on the Will “Who do you think you are I am” Howard bandwagon.
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Everyone is talking like Will is definitely gone after this season. Is he on any mock drafts? I can't see him transferring.
His preseason ranking is #9 QB in FBS. Also, is ranked anywhere from #1 to #5 in this season's Big XII rankings.
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Even though he's ranked in the top ten QBs in the nation, it's still not a guarantee he'll get drafted 1st or 2nd round. Skywalker was ranked #7 QB in the draft and got selected in the sixth round and ended up being a backup.
So a lot will depend on how well he does this season.
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Even though he's ranked in the top ten QBs in the nation, it's still not a guarantee he'll get drafted 1st or 2nd round. Skywalker was ranked #7 QB in the draft and got selected in the sixth round and ended up being a backup.
So a lot will depend on how well he does this season.
Skylar was not 6'5 245lbs and does not have the same arm talent Howard does.
As a college player Howard is basically Josh Allen with less agility but a better completion percentage.
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(not saying Howard will be Josh Allen but I bet he gets some of those comparisons in the pre draft evaluations assuming he continues to ball out)
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If you had told me on September 1st 2022 that Will Howard would start half our games and lead us to a Big12 championship by slinging the ball around the field like a boss I would have laughed in your face.
It still blows my mind how much Will Howard improved last year.
This will forever be one of my favorite Kstate moments because that's when I finally believed in him.
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This is 1000% true for me. I was so glad (and still am) we got Adrian cause I didn't want to think about turning it over to Will. He totally proved me wrong and I'm glad to be wrong about it
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Will Howard isn't an NFL qb. But Skyler isn't an NFL qb, either, so what do I know.
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i can’t wait for opposing fan bases to throw the “you had will howard and deuce vaughn and the best you could do is a b12 championship, which didn’t even count because tcu” after they both become nfl pro bowlers
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Howard is same build as Big Ben. Does his arm equate to Big Ben? I don't know...
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If you had told me on September 1st 2022 that Will Howard would start half our games and lead us to a Big12 championship by slinging the ball around the field like a boss I would have laughed in your face.
It still blows my mind how much Will Howard improved last year.
This will forever be one of my favorite Kstate moments because that's when I finally believed in him.
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This is 1000% true for me. I was so glad (and still am) we got Adrian cause I didn't want to think about turning it over to Will. He totally proved me wrong and I'm glad to be wrong about it
I completely agree as well. I was as wrong as I could be about Howard and I'm so happy for both him, the program, and the pictured moment that I was.
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https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1699459030966525992
Unrelated yet related. Must not like money :Ugh:
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This kid has NFL Hall of Fame written all over him.
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This is the Avery "Big" Johnston thread not the pussy bitch thread
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This is the Avery "Big" Johnston thread not the pussy bitch thread
Unfortunately future NFL QB Will Howard is currently in front of Avery "Big" Johnson on the depth chart.
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Time to reboot the big Johnson tshirts of the 90s
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This is the Avery "Big" Johnston thread not the pussy bitch thread
Unfortunately future NFL QB Will Howard is currently in front of Avery "Big" Johnson on the depth chart.
Will has had his struggles but at no time did I detect any pussy bitchness
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This is the Avery "Big" Johnston thread not the pussy bitch thread
Unfortunately future NFL QB Will Howard is currently in front of Avery "Big" Johnson on the depth chart.
Will has had his struggles but at no time did I detect any pussy bitchness
Go back and watch @OSU 2021.
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7's post was about Caleb Williams sirs
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This is the Avery "Big" Johnston thread not the pussy bitch thread
Unfortunately future NFL QB Will Howard is currently in front of Avery "Big" Johnson on the depth chart.
Will has had his struggles but at no time did I detect any pussy bitchness
Go back and watch @OSU 2021.
Every good redemption arc needs a low point.
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Everyone is talking like Will is definitely gone after this season. Is he on any mock drafts? I can't see him transferring.
His preseason ranking is #9 QB in FBS. Also, is ranked anywhere from #1 to #5 in this season's Big XII rankings.
What draft rankings are you seeing him at 9?
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Time to reboot the big Johnson tshirts of the 90s
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Straight from the rack at Gadzooks
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Back in the day, some resident gE'ers could have made that a wonderful photoshop shirt.
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Is that Shane Falco of the Washington Sentinels on the left side of that T?
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Is that Shane Falco of the Washington Sentinels on the left side of that T?
:surprised:
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This is the Avery "Big" Johnston thread not the pussy bitch thread
Unfortunately future NFL QB Will Howard is currently in front of Avery "Big" Johnson on the depth chart.
Will has had his struggles but at no time did I detect any pussy bitchness
You know Star Seed 7, the Mods should have a SHOW YOUR ASS and SAY YOU'RE SORRY, YOU PUSSY BITCHES!
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How would you rank Big Johnson, Coed Naked, Hard Rock themed and No Fear?
I think
1. Big Johnson (makes it cooler that my dad wouldn’t let me buy one)
2. No Fear (they were awesome initially, but got a little lame as time went in iirc)
3. Hard Rock
4. Coed Naked (also wasn’t allowed, but I thought they were too crass anyway. Not creative like big johnson)
These rankings were as a pre-teen/early teen perspective for me.
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I wore a no fear shirt to my first punk rock concert and felt deeply out of place
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Changed to a plain white tee for subsequent punk rock concerts
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How would you rank Big Johnson, Coed Naked, Hard Rock themed and No Fear?
I think
1. Big Johnson (makes it cooler that my dad wouldn’t let me buy one)
2. No Fear (they were awesome initially, but got a little lame as time went in iirc)
3. Hard Rock
4. Coed Naked (also wasn’t allowed, but I thought they were too crass anyway. Not creative like big johnson)
These rankings were as a pre-teen/early teen perspective for me.
Are we just going to leave AND 1 shirts out of this?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tEcAAOSwYXFknLtT/s-l1600.jpg)
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How would you rank Big Johnson, Coed Naked, Hard Rock themed and No Fear?
I think
1. Big Johnson (makes it cooler that my dad wouldn’t let me buy one)
2. No Fear (they were awesome initially, but got a little lame as time went in iirc)
3. Hard Rock
4. Coed Naked (also wasn’t allowed, but I thought they were too crass anyway. Not creative like big johnson)
These rankings were as a pre-teen/early teen perspective for me.
Yeah I wish I had big Johnson or coed naked shirts but I had several no fear and hard rock tees and loved them.
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How would you rank Big Johnson, Coed Naked, Hard Rock themed and No Fear?
I think
1. Big Johnson (makes it cooler that my dad wouldn’t let me buy one)
2. No Fear (they were awesome initially, but got a little lame as time went in iirc)
3. Hard Rock
4. Coed Naked (also wasn’t allowed, but I thought they were too crass anyway. Not creative like big johnson)
These rankings were as a pre-teen/early teen perspective for me.
Are we just going to leave AND 1 shirts out of this?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tEcAAOSwYXFknLtT/s-l1600.jpg)
Psssh. Not cool at all bro. Not in my neck of the woods.
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I wore a no fear shirt to my first punk rock concert and felt deeply out of place
Haha who did you see
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The descendents
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How would you rank Big Johnson, Coed Naked, Hard Rock themed and No Fear?
I think
1. Big Johnson (makes it cooler that my dad wouldn’t let me buy one)
2. No Fear (they were awesome initially, but got a little lame as time went in iirc)
3. Hard Rock
4. Coed Naked (also wasn’t allowed, but I thought they were too crass anyway. Not creative like big johnson)
These rankings were as a pre-teen/early teen perspective for me.
Are we just going to leave AND 1 shirts out of this?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tEcAAOSwYXFknLtT/s-l1600.jpg)
This all came along shortly after Genera HyperColors, IIRC. Also remember a kid in my class who had an "Air Lopez" T-shirt. Were these part of a wider trend?
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The descendents
Lit as heck :emawkid:
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The descendents
incred
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the flint hills phenom is a touchdown machine
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STUD
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Maize high school = birthplace of champions. Eagle pride!
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This guy is going to take us to incredible heights.
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This guy is going to take us to incredible heights.
Like an eagle he will race among the clouds, soaring high above the mountains.
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He is incredible running the ball but really would prefer they trust his arm which appears to be good enough already. roll him out he can run still and avoid big hits. Let him cook
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He is incredible running the ball but really would prefer they trust his arm which appears to be good enough already. roll him out he can run still and avoid big hits. Let him cook
The best part is he’s so fast that a lot of the times when he runs he doesn’t get touched at all.
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The threat of his running ability makes everything about our offense better. Ward looked like a world beater when the defense had to respect Avery at the mesh point. Also it's going to allow for some stupid easy throws on play action.
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The threat of his running ability makes everything about our offense better. Ward looked like a world beater when the defense had to respect Avery at the mesh point. Also it's going to allow for some stupid easy throws on play action.
Small sample size, but Ward’s play-style seemed to pair far better with Johnson than Giddens’.
Edit: ww post is spot on
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I JUST DONT WANT HIM TO GET HURT
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The threat of his running ability makes everything about our offense better. Ward looked like a world beater when the defense had to respect Avery at the mesh point. Also it's going to allow for some stupid easy throws on play action.
Small sample size, but Ward’s play-style seemed to pair far better with Johnson than Giddens’.
One thing that’s true about giddens this year as it was last year, is that when he gets running east/west he is not very effective. Dude needs to stay north/south
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The threat of his running ability makes everything about our offense better. Ward looked like a world beater when the defense had to respect Avery at the mesh point. Also it's going to allow for some stupid easy throws on play action.
Small sample size, but Ward’s play-style seemed to pair far better with Johnson than Giddens’.
One thing that’s true about giddens this year as it was last year, is that when he gets running east/west he is not very effective. Dude needs to stay north/south
Yes, and he’s a very patient runner that works well with blockers going hat on hat. Ward has a quick first gear and has struggled w runs that require patience. Johnson draws so much attention that it seems like Ward’s natural quickness is enhanced when they are the tandem, especially on zone read type plays.
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We haven’t seen much yet, but I think we’ll see WRs “getting open/separation” more successfully w/ Johnson at QB going forward. Defenses needing to account for the fastest guy on the field is going to lead to an easier time in the passing game.
1. You gotta spy/contain/be on guard for the QB run game.
2. He’s faster than all DL, LBs and will extend tons of plays.
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avery wouldn’t be half the player he is without will there by his side
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Avery seems to have incredible vision and makes the right cuts, in addition to being fast. He also looks pretty sturdy, to me, but that doesn't mean much since I'm kinda thinking of him in relation to our string Bean. Put me in the camp that wants to see him throw more. I need to find out just how concerned I should be.
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From his HS highlight videos, he's even better than his running ability. He was ranked high in the Elite 11 last year based on his passing skills.
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So he’s starting against TCU, right?
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So he’s starting against TCU, right?
I suspect the statements in public will be vague enough that it sounds like Will might be starting to keep TCU having to prep for both but yeah, he should be the guy going forward. No disrespect to Will but Avery has way more upside and it certainly seems like time for him to see the field as the starter.
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A way to make it less awkward for all is if something could be worked out that allows will to go to the nfl right now. :dunno:
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if we had avery last year, do we beat alabama?
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Will starts, Avery comes in after the first drive that K-State doesn't score.
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BUT CAN HE THROW?!?
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A way to make it less awkward for all is if something could be worked out that allows will to go to the nfl right now. :dunno:
Hell, if our devoted fans on this board don't think he's good enough to start, what makes you think he's NFL material?
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A way to make it less awkward for all is if something could be worked out that allows will to go to the nfl right now. :dunno:
Hell, if our devoted fans on this board don't think he's good enough to start, what makes you think he's NFL material?
Everyone was talking about it.
Everyone is talking like Will is definitely gone after this season. Is he on any mock drafts? I can't see him transferring.
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Literally me the other night.
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A way to make it less awkward for all is if something could be worked out that allows will to go to the nfl right now. :dunno:
Hell, if our devoted fans on this board don't think he's good enough to start, what makes you think he's NFL material?
NFL fans and even coaches always get boners for a guy’s physical features. Tall guys who have some decent mobility and decent arm will get overvalued by the NFL. Maybe someday that will change. I doubt it will in my lifetime.
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BUT CAN HE THROW?!?
He has a top 15 passer rating in the country*, in limited opportunities. If anything, he hasn't thrown enough.
Our WR's can't get open, but they do when he's on the field.
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Woke up today grinning thinking about how sweet it is that AJ is our QB for the next couple/few years. It really is quite something.
There really isn’t much to compare it to as a KSU fan. We’ve never experienced this before.
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Woke up today grinning thinking about how sweet it is that AJ is our QB for the next couple/few years. It really is quite something.
There really isn’t much to compare it to as a KSU fan. We’ve never experienced this before.
I just hope he’s durable. The only way our offense can be effective at such a high clip is if he runs the ball and inevitably he’s going to take some hits. (I have no reason to doubt his durability I’m just saying)
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I can't focus at work...just keep thinking of our golden haired football jesus Avery Johnson slicing through line for another touchdown
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I can't focus at work...just keep thinking of our golden haired football jesus Avery Johnson slicing through line for another touchdown
Now imagine him doing it for the next two or three seasons after this one.
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We’re likely to average 10+ wins a season with AJ at the helm. The glory days are upon us!
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Welp, we've got a Will OR AJ on the TCU depth chart.
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I think that is just to mess with TCU :dunno:
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I think most K-State media think that Will is going to start. Honestly, who gives a eff? If he starts then scores 3 points on the first three drives, he's going right back to the bench anyway, likely for good.
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I think most K-State media think that Will is going to start. Honestly, who gives a eff? If he starts then scores 3 points on the first three drives, he's going right back to the bench anyway, likely for good.
You are probably right, but jeez Louise I would prefer to not get in a hole before we accept the inevitable.
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I just hope he’s durable. The only way our offense can be effective at such a high clip is if he runs the ball and inevitably he’s going to take some hits. (I have no reason to doubt his durability I’m just saying)
6'2", 188# If we run AJ a bunch, he's going to take some hits where he may not be able to get off the field on his own. He'll put on weight, but man, 188 lbs. is a pretty light runner.
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I think that is just to mess with TCU :dunno:
If they start Will, they should just run, run, and more run. Next series bring AJ out and pass, pass, and more pass.
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I can't focus at work...just keep thinking of our golden haired football jesus Avery Johnson slicing through line for another touchdown
Fired up YTTV DVR while WFH (man, it's slow right now) and enjoyed that victory again.
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I just hope he’s durable. The only way our offense can be effective at such a high clip is if he runs the ball and inevitably he’s going to take some hits. (I have no reason to doubt his durability I’m just saying)
6'2", 188# If we run AJ a bunch, he's going to take some hits where he may not be able to get off the field on his own. He'll put on weight, but man, 188 lbs. is a pretty light runner.
#BiscuitTalk
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How much would Avery have to weigh before people can stop worrying about him breaking? Quinn Ewers is listed at 195 and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything similar. Maybe it's because our current QB is like 250.
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How much would Avery have to weigh before people can stop worrying about him breaking? Quinn Ewers is listed at 195 and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything similar. Maybe it's because our current QB is like 250.
205 lbs. CK listed at 226 lbs in 2012.
Tom
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His frame can hold at least 50 more pounds, and when he puts on all that muscle he is gonna be unstoppable.
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I would prefer my purple hearted yellow haired football jesus at 200lb as long as he keeps his elusiveness/speed.
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I hope he stays at 199 as a eff you to the haters
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As long as he can take a lickin and keep on tickin, idgaf what the scale says if I’m being completely honest
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How much would Avery have to weigh before people can stop worrying about him breaking? Quinn Ewers is listed at 195 and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything similar. Maybe it's because our current QB is like 250.
might also be because Ewers has 180 pass attempts and 33 rushes and Johnson has 13 pass attempts and 23 rushes? I mean, I think you know that
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How much would Avery have to weigh before people can stop worrying about him breaking? Quinn Ewers is listed at 195 and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything similar. Maybe it's because our current QB is like 250.
might also be because Ewers has 180 pass attempts and 33 rushes and Johnson has 13 pass attempts and 23 rushes? I mean, I think you know that
It's silly to think he will be used at those ratios for any length of time as the primary QB. They aren't going to run him like the second coming of CK7.
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How much would Avery have to weigh before people can stop worrying about him breaking? Quinn Ewers is listed at 195 and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything similar. Maybe it's because our current QB is like 250.
might also be because Ewers has 180 pass attempts and 33 rushes and Johnson has 13 pass attempts and 23 rushes? I mean, I think you know that
It's silly to think he will be used at those ratios for any length of time as the primary QB. They aren't going to run him like the second coming of CK7.
it's also silly to think his ratio will be in the ballpark of Ewers this season
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How much would Avery have to weigh before people can stop worrying about him breaking? Quinn Ewers is listed at 195 and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything similar. Maybe it's because our current QB is like 250.
might also be because Ewers has 180 pass attempts and 33 rushes and Johnson has 13 pass attempts and 23 rushes? I mean, I think you know that
It's silly to think he will be used at those ratios for any length of time as the primary QB. They aren't going to run him like the second coming of CK7.
it's also silly to think his ratio will be in the ballpark of Ewers this season
It will probably be like 3 to 1 pass to run. Jason Bean has similar ratio and is 195. McClain similar ratio at UCF is 196. I doubt Avery plays more than 10 lbs heavier than he is right now while he is here.
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How much would Avery have to weigh before people can stop worrying about him breaking? Quinn Ewers is listed at 195 and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything similar. Maybe it's because our current QB is like 250.
might also be because Ewers has 180 pass attempts and 33 rushes and Johnson has 13 pass attempts and 23 rushes? I mean, I think you know that
It's silly to think he will be used at those ratios for any length of time as the primary QB. They aren't going to run him like the second coming of CK7.
it's also silly to think his ratio will be in the ballpark of Ewers this season
It will probably be like 3 to 1 pass to run. Jason Bean has similar ratio and is 195. McClain similar ratio at UCF is 196. I doubt Avery plays more than 10 lbs heavier than he is right now while he is here.
How many years do you think he'll be a Cat? Let's say he leaves after his jr season. I think he gets to about 215.
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You guys trying to guess how much a player is going to be injured based on his weight?
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You guys trying to guess how much a player is going to be injured based on his weight?
There's a formula or something. You wouldn't get it.
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How much would Avery have to weigh before people can stop worrying about him breaking? Quinn Ewers is listed at 195 and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything similar. Maybe it's because our current QB is like 250.
might also be because Ewers has 180 pass attempts and 33 rushes and Johnson has 13 pass attempts and 23 rushes? I mean, I think you know that
It's silly to think he will be used at those ratios for any length of time as the primary QB. They aren't going to run him like the second coming of CK7.
it's also silly to think his ratio will be in the ballpark of Ewers this season
It will probably be like 3 to 1 pass to run. Jason Bean has similar ratio and is 195. McClain similar ratio at UCF is 196. I doubt Avery plays more than 10 lbs heavier than he is right now while he is here.
How many years do you think he'll be a Cat? Let's say he leaves after his jr season. I think he gets to about 215.
I think he will graduate in December of '25 and be drafted in April of '26. I suppose he could get that heavy, but he's already gained 20 lbs since he got here and another 25 seems like overkill.
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You guys trying to guess how much a player is going to be injured based on his weight?
lol pretty ridiculous.
In my expert opinion Avery must weigh 210 pounds to avoid injury.
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How much would Avery have to weigh before people can stop worrying about him breaking? Quinn Ewers is listed at 195 and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything similar. Maybe it's because our current QB is like 250.
might also be because Ewers has 180 pass attempts and 33 rushes and Johnson has 13 pass attempts and 23 rushes? I mean, I think you know that
It's silly to think he will be used at those ratios for any length of time as the primary QB. They aren't going to run him like the second coming of CK7.
it's also silly to think his ratio will be in the ballpark of Ewers this season
It will probably be like 3 to 1 pass to run. Jason Bean has similar ratio and is 195. McClain similar ratio at UCF is 196. I doubt Avery plays more than 10 lbs heavier than he is right now while he is here.
How many years do you think he'll be a Cat? Let's say he leaves after his jr season. I think he gets to about 215.
I think he will graduate in December of '25 and be drafted in April of '26. I suppose he could get that heavy, but he's already gained 20 lbs since he got here and another 25 seems like overkill.
Holy crap. I did not know that.
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You guys trying to guess how much a player is going to be injured based on his weight?
lol pretty ridiculous.
In my expert opinion Avery must weigh 210 pounds to avoid injury.
Performance optimization.
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You guys are going to lose your crap when they finally let him fling it all over the yard. I fully expect to see him throw substantially more on Saturday. I'm guessing the Toads are going to sell out to stop the QB run which should present some nice throwing oportunities. :emawkid:
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You guys trying to guess how much a player is going to be injured based on his weight?
Thank you, it's complete nonsense.
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You guys are going to lose your crap when they finally let him fling it all over the yard. I fully expect to see him throw substantially more on Saturday. I'm guessing the Toads are going to sell out to stop the QB run which should present some nice throwing oportunities. :emawkid:
You mean to tell me an Elite 11 finalist with generational talent can actually throw the ball?!
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Does he have enough weight in his core to really fling it? IMO he needs to be around 205 to reach his maximum power/accuracy when throwing.
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Someone make a weight/injury matrix for Avery so we know exactly where he needs to be.
And just forget how his body type/quick twitch/speed can be affected if he gains a bunch of weight in this scenario.
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you guys, everybody knows that football is a game of momentum.
the equation for momentum = mass x velocity. So uh, yeah, i would say his weight absolutely matters. educate yourselves, you knuckleheads.
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Avery's weight is tearing this blog apart
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Avery's weight is tearing this blog apart
We haven't seen this level of division in the Wildcat #Family since the days of Waters Runs Dry.
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Fitz and the Lemon Party crew incoming?
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If he likes overdoes it with the deciduous food from the strength table and gains 100 lbs, he could easily switch with the center and crap no one with know if he'll just keep the ball and run for or hike it to Will and with his mighty 250 lbs could run it. This would drive defenses crazy. CFP here we come.
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I love Avery just like every other Cat fan, and expect great things from him, but let's pump the brakes on how his future will turn out. There were a lot of Cats on Twitter (some of you, probably) that were talking about Will Howard being in the Heisman conversation at the beginning of the season, for god's sake
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he's a little porkie for my liking
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Agree with Dickstone. Imagine how fast he could go if he drops 10-15 lbs.
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I'm hoping he doesn't get some sort of eating disorder based on the wants and needs of this blog
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i’d love to see him pushing 400 lbs. with his speed and agility, a 400 pound avery johnson would be literally unstoppable
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/24795h/is_there_actually_a_correlation_between_a_qbs/?rdt=50660
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i’d love to see him pushing 400 lbs. with his speed and agility, a 400 pound avery johnson would be literally unstoppable
Imagine though is he were 101 lbs how fast and elusive he would be. He would literally never get touched. He would have the cleanest uniform in college football history
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I offer this thread my apologies for raising the question of potential injury to AJ based on his relatively light weight. I also offer condolences to those with low LQBIQ who think weight doesn't matter to QB's called upon to run the ball. Colin Klein devastated a lot of DB's because he was a load to handle when he ran. AJ doesn't have that kind of mass, and merely voiced a concern the opposite would happen with AJ (DB's devastating AJ instead of the other way around).
You have to believe that opposing coaches are studying film from the Tech game to put a stop to AJ's run game, and it won't be some polite request.
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Is it possible Avery has a third leg like Chris Jones and even if he were heavier he would still have the speed and quickness with added weight?
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i’d love to see him pushing 400 lbs. with his speed and agility, a 400 pound avery johnson would be literally unstoppable
Imagine though is he were 101 lbs how fast and elusive he would be. He would literally never get touched. He would have the cleanest uniform in college football history
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Is it possible Avery has a third leg like Chris Jones and even if he were heavier he would still have the speed and quickness with added weight?
do you really need to ask?
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i’d love to see him pushing 400 lbs. with his speed and agility, a 400 pound avery johnson would be literally unstoppable
Imagine though is he were 101 lbs how fast and elusive he would be. He would literally never get touched. He would have the cleanest uniform in college football history
he would be so hard to tackle. like in an mmmbop he's gone. in an mmmbop he's not there.
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I offer this thread my apologies for raising the question of potential injury to AJ based on his relatively light weight. I also offer condolences to those with low QBIQ who think weight doesn't matter to QB's called upon to run the ball. Colin Klein devastated a lot of DB's because he was a load to handle when he ran. AJ doesn't have that kind of mass, and merely voiced a concern the opposite would happen with AJ (DB's devastating AJ instead of the other way around).
another great thing about Collin Klein and his enormous size / weight is that he was famously never injured
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i’d love to see him pushing 400 lbs. with his speed and agility, a 400 pound avery johnson would be literally unstoppable
Imagine though is he were 101 lbs how fast and elusive he would be. He would literally never get touched. He would have the cleanest uniform in college football history
he would be so hard to tackle. like in an mmmbop he's gone. in an mmmbop he's not there.
Dr. Pep game. redzone: Avery takes the snap. Sinnot picks him up and yeets him into the endzone for a 2 point conversion, we all hug it out and join team Anorexic Avery.*
* extra party because when he lands in the endzone he comes down on his clavicle but he only weight 98 lbs so not enough weight to break the bone also his poor nutrition has made the bone rubbery
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I offer this thread my apologies for raising the question of potential injury to AJ based on his relatively light weight. I also offer condolences to those with low QBIQ who think weight doesn't matter to QB's called upon to run the ball. Colin Klein devastated a lot of DB's because he was a load to handle when he ran. AJ doesn't have that kind of mass, and merely voiced a concern the opposite would happen with AJ (DB's devastating AJ instead of the other way around).
another great thing about Collin Klein and his enormous size / weight is that he was famously never injured
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Aside from broken ribs and spaghetti brains. :ROFL:
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great catch katpappy
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I took that post as :Take the Bait:
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great catch deputy dawg
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The beauty of a mocat roast is most of the time you don't even know he got your ass
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The beauty of a mocat roast is most of the time you don't even know he got your ass
It would of worked better if he mentioned that CK got cured of all his minor injuries with multiball ice baths every week. LOL
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taken some big hits. how about those 2 incredible passes to jayce though? LET HIM PASS
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taken some big hits. how about those 2 incredible passes to jayce though? LET HIM PASS
I don't think he had many open receivers
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Our coaching staff is running him up 31 in the fourth quarter…
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taken some big hits. how about those 2 incredible passes to jayce though? LET HIM PASS
I don't think he had many open receivers
lol
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Please find a way to throw this woman and her child a couple of bucks, if you can.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzT3uNMrIoy/
https://champsraise.com/athletes/avery-johnson
Worth noting that student athletes couldn't do things like this before nil.
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Really cool of Avery. I like this cat.
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Please find a way to throw this woman and her child a couple of bucks, if you can.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzT3uNMrIoy/
https://champsraise.com/athletes/avery-johnson
Worth noting that student athletes couldn't do things like this before nil.
that’s really putting a lot onto the shoulders of a kid who, without his athletic gifts, would otherwise probably not be involved with something of this nature. he seems to be well prepared and handling it. and this, folks, is how leaders are born.
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He is the chosen one
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He is the chosen one
Our very own purple hearted golden haired football jesus
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Please find a way to throw this woman and her child a couple of bucks, if you can.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzT3uNMrIoy/
https://champsraise.com/athletes/avery-johnson
Worth noting that student athletes couldn't do things like this before nil.
Thought I was going to be in 3rd place for a minute but before I could even screenshot for posterity Ken Laudan (IRL Pissclams?) just swooped in to take me off the podium
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Looks like Hayden Gillum has one too.
https://champsraise.com/athletes/hayden-gillum
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Please find a way to throw this woman and her child a couple of bucks, if you can.
:thumbs:
Worth noting that student athletes couldn't do things like this before nil.
very cool :emawkid:
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It is time.
:emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :katpak: :katpak: :katpak:
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:excited: :excited: :excited:
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Giddy up, folks
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Projected stats for his first start in the bowl game?
17/24 passing for 220 yards and 2 TD's
12 rushes for 103 yards and 2 TD's
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24/25 passing for 400 yards + 4 TDs
30 carries for 300 yards rushing + 3TDs
2 reception TDs
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I think he's going to look below average tbh. Will be a good learning experience though.
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We’re going to take lumps next year
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I'm going to roast the crap out of you two negative Norberts.
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I love the crap out of the kid but he's human. They have only let him throw it against legit competition like 20 times all year.
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2 rushing TDs
1 passing TD
2 INTs
Who GAF about yards
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I love the crap out of the kid but he's human. They have only let him throw it against legit competition like 20 times all year.
I’m actually not sure if he’s human. The hair, the swag, the ability to run around people so fast. Also, if you’re classy like he is, you don’t give it up on the first date.
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I love the crap out of the kid but he's human. They have only let him throw it against legit competition like 20 times all year.
Your right, we aren't going to throw much in the bowl game in order to make teams think he can't throw (and then unleash the full package next season)...I'm updating my stats
10-14 passing for 120 yards and 2 TD's with 1 INT (tipped ball)
16 rushes for 174 yards and 2 TD's
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Would playing in the bowl game affect his remaining eligibility?
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Would playing in the bowl game affect his remaining eligibility?
Would winning a dr. pepper and going to the CFP as a purple Lamar Jackson before getting drafted affect your question?
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Would playing in the bowl game affect his remaining eligibility?
I've heard the same question several times about Nico at Tennessee and all of those articles said bowl games don't count towards this year's eligibility. No idea if that's true or not but these were all major outlets like ESPN,etc.
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Would playing in the bowl game affect his remaining eligibility?
Would winning a dr. pepper and going to the CFP as a purple Lamar Jackson before getting drafted affect your question?
I am not saying we shouldn’t do it, just curious.
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Would playing in the bowl game affect his remaining eligibility?
I've heard the same question several times about Nico at Tennessee and all of those articles said bowl games don't count towards this year's eligibility. No idea if that's true or not but these were all major outlets like ESPN,etc.
It's true.
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He already played in 7 regular season games
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They aren't gonna rush Avery in a bullshit bowl game. 3 passing TDs with an INT (but the INT will be either tipped or a long pass on 3rd/4th down and long). 2 more TDs that he hands to DJamer Giddens or Josh Jackson.
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They aren't gonna rush Avery in a bullshit bowl game. 3 passing TDs with an INT (but the INT will be either tipped or a long pass on 3rd/4th down and long). 2 more TDs that he hands to DJamer Giddens or Josh Jackson.
So what you're saying is 3 passing TDs and 2 anytime TDs
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Let's throw a PR touchdown on the predicted stack of bowl stats, I'm feeling confident
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They aren't gonna rush Avery in a bullshit bowl game.
lol
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Pretty sure Avery runs for a snoTD had he got a chance Saturday.
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0kA0INxbTA/?igshid=ODhhZWM5NmIwOQ==
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#2 !
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0kA0INxbTA/?igshid=ODhhZWM5NmIwOQ==
BEHOLD!!!
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wut :confused:
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Avery's changing his number but the more important takeaway would be that this is an indication that he's not going anywhere.
This should make our OC job as attractive as it has ever been.
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We are going to kick so much ass at the Pop Tarts Bowl.
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Avery's changing his number but the more important takeaway would be that this is an indication that he's not going anywhere.
This should make our OC job as attractive as it has ever been.
Give us Willy Korn!
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I think this is our new QB lineup:
Avery Johnson #2
Jacob Knuth #7
Ty Bowman #8
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I literally teared up watching that. I also think that's is great that it was on the socials on the official team accounts. Looks like I need to buy another Avery jersey.
Two Words is also one of my favorite songs of all time.
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Klein had a chance to stay and he left. Avery had a chance to go and he stayed.
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https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1732837510886179100
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Can we go ahead and remove the "What if" and the "??" from the thread title or at least place them in brackets or parentheses?
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:nono:
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Can we go ahead and remove the "What if" and the "??" from the thread title or at least place them in brackets or parentheses?
"Complete" would imply that he's finished, and he's not anywhere near done yet.
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He is so emaw and I love him :lynchmob:
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we don't deserve him but i'm so glad he chose us anyway
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I deserve him
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You deserve to enjoy the crap out of a delicious chocolate bar made from conflict free chocolate and then when you’re done eating it you find out there’s actually a lot of conflict with that chocolate and then you spend several hours reckoning with that fact
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woah dude
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yeah, I deserve the crap out of him. I deserve tons of incredible stuff. do you guys even know how good I've been this year?
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YOU WILL GET NOTHING AND LIKE IT
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absolutely deserve a quarterback with delicious golden locks and tight spirals
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After the last 2 years of crap I’ve been through. I deserve this.
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michigancat and steve dave deserve him.
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michigancat and steve dave deserve him.
Yes!
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https://twitter.com/AthlonSports/status/1737266544562852265
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That’s the link to share with folks who ask why we gave USC a starter QB.
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What're we setting the K-State O/U at for the bowl game?
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I also deserve him.
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What're we setting the K-State O/U at for the bowl game?
2.5 Avery anytime TDs
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What're we setting the K-State O/U at for the bowl game?
2.5 Avery anytime TDs
let it be written
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we don't deserve him but i'm so glad he chose us anyway
This is very wrong; good people deserve good things! :ksu:
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we don't deserve him but i'm so glad he chose us anyway
This is very wrong; good people deserve good things! :ksu:
Several posters on this board are complete trash and deserve - and pardon my French - but they deserve a lump of coal in their stockings
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we don't deserve him but i'm so glad he chose us anyway
This is very wrong; good people deserve good things! :ksu:
Several posters on this board are complete trash and deserve - and pardon my French - but they deserve a lump of coal in their stockings
I understand the passion, but maybe walk away from the keyboard for a bit and cool off.
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Good advice bE
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Is the entire nation ready for this?
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My stat line prediction
14-19 220 yards passing 2TDs
11 Rushes for 114 yards and 2TDs
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@bananaeater you got some scratch on Avery anytime td's?
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I think he will be really good for us when it's all said and done but he is not super impressive at this moment in time.
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He'll be fine. He has like 1.5 WR out there for him.
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He has tremendous potential
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He's amazing to watch but like I posted in the other thread, Will was very good
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Does it kinda seem like he throws behind guys a bit?
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Nearly every throw is behind the receiver yes. His wheels are so rough ridin' good tho.
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He seems to be making good reads, needs to work on placement
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He's fine, we were spoiled by Will Howard and Ben Sinnott
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Who's making this TD, DJamer or AJ?
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Avery has been good. He’s clearly a little fixated on no turnovers but he’s so mobile it’s almost like a cheat code for zero sacks and INTs. Give him some more reps with a good OC and receivers and he should be great.
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Welp, 3 TD for one score. :Woot:
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He plays way more conservative than will, he reminds me a lot of caleb williams as a freshman from a maturity perspective.
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Honestly he's done quite a bit better than I expected with how he's managed the game. I expected a couple turnovers at least.
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He plays way more conservative than will, he reminds me a lot of caleb williams as a freshman from a maturity perspective.
He is this game, but he didn't in the regular season. It's really encouraging TBH
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Stud, confirmed.
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I have a feeling we have won this game.
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He plays way more conservative than will, he reminds me a lot of caleb williams as a freshman from a maturity perspective.
He is this game, but he didn't in the regular season. It's really encouraging TBH
I feel the same. If anything he prob could have taken a few yards instead of throwing the ball away a couple of times. I expected him to bail way more often than he did.
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I'm just glad he didn't get hurt.
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We need an average Online and two stud transfer WRs next year and sky is limit on offense.
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Avery got the first fistful of Strawberry, the self-sacrificed Pop Tart. Gotta mean something.
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Pretty solid game. Easy to overly nit pick but he was consistent if not a bit conservative. Hard to not be happy though with his performance.
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HE WHIPPED ASS
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Pocket presence/awareness was great.
The way that he turtled up before a hit on a scramble made me wonder if he was protecting himself or if he really doesn’t want the contact
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Pocket presence/awareness was great.
The way that he turtled up before a hit on a scramble made me wonder if he was protecting himself or if he really doesn’t want the contact
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If you took away anything other than he's a badass I don't know if you should discuss football any more
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He's nearly impossible to sack
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I am unfamiliar with this Michael guy but this is the worst writing OAT. Just horrific to try to get through. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/longformarticle/kansas-state-football-avery-johnson-jayce-brown-DJamer-giddens-desmond-purnell-224077634/
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I am unfamiliar with this Michael guy but this is the worst writing OAT. Just horrific to try to get through. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/longformarticle/kansas-state-football-avery-johnson-jayce-brown-DJamer-giddens-desmond-purnell-224077634/
What the eff is that? LOL!
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I am not a violent person. I mean, I try not to be ... But I feel the urge to slap Michael Goens with aplomb.
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I am not a violent person. I mean, I try not to be ... But I feel the urge to slap Michael Goens with aplomb.
He’d find some really choice words to incorrectly describe it
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https://twitter.com/ColeCarmody52/status/1740595647630410140?s=20
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I am unfamiliar with this Michael guy but this is the worst writing OAT. Just horrific to try to get through. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/longformarticle/kansas-state-football-avery-johnson-jayce-brown-DJamer-giddens-desmond-purnell-224077634/
What the eff is that? LOL!
It’s fine if you read it as a 7th grader’s English project.
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I am not a violent person. I mean, I try not to be ... But I feel the urge to slap Michael Goens with aplomb.
He’d find some really choice words to incorrectly describe it
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Donning a superhero cape not made for real super hero, spracne delivered a slap with aplomb. And, as the kids like to say, the force was da bomb.
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Pocket presence/awareness was great.
The way that he turtled up before a hit on a scramble made me wonder if he was protecting himself or if he really doesn’t want the contact
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If you took away anything other than he's a badass I don't know if you should discuss football any more
I thought he was great.
I thought he would be more of a designed run player but after watching him this year those yards are going to come more from scrambles than what we’ve been used to.
Just surprised me is all because that’s not what I’m used to from a Kstate perspective.
Nc state is a really solid team with that had an opportunity for a tenth win and we put up the best offensive output anyone has all season against them.
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I think our gameplan lastnight was focused pretty highly on "do not put avery in a spot to get hurt." Which makes sense given our QB situation lastnight (i think Max Marsch was our backup).
I think next year once Knuth is eligible and we don't have a safety in the backup qb role, we'll see a little more designed QB run/read option stuff. but likely just a little -- I don't think we're going to see 10+ designed QB runs per game or anything like that. Would like to see us mix in some bootleg/pa stuff next year to make linebackers second guess a bit more -- should open up things inside for DJamer in the same way read option does. Though you don't really see much "bootleg" from the shotgun, and idk if we went under center more than 10 times this year.
Anyway, avery was really impressive lastnight. His pocket presence/evasiveness is already leagues better than any QB K-State's had in a LONG time (maybe ever). He really didn't make any bad decisions lastnight.
Had some misses. Receivers weren't very helpful for a lot of the game (though KJ/Jace/Seth came up big in that last TD drive). We missed Sinnott a lot lastnight imo. All in all, we know he's got the talent with his arm and legs -- what we didn't know was how he'd handle himself when it comes to pocket presence/decision-making over the course of the game. Lastnight answered the only real question i had about Avery. He's going to be very, very good for us. Get that boy another reliable WR and a decent enough OL, and our offense is going to be bananas.
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I thought he could've scrambled one or two more times. I do think a lot of the times he didn't was because there was a spy on him 5 yards or so past the line of scrimmage but I also think he could've made that guy miss on occasion.
That last drive was amazing. Two TDs taken off the board and he kept the offense moving. Absolutely no panic in him. He's incredibly calm and smooth. Eyes down the field the whole time. Reads the progressions across the whole field. He feels the pressure without focusing on it. I love the scramble to the line of scrimmage and sideline to buy more time, only to throw it away if nothing develops. I'd be curious to see the all-22 on some of those plays to see just how conservative he was being on all the throwaways. I'm so glad he got a whole game of work and tape to study this offseason.
Hopefully, the WRs will get used to his darts with a full offseason of work. I think Klieman's postgame praise is as much about advertising to transfers/recruits to come play with this guy as it was about actually praising Avery. I would expect that we'll add a vet WR in the portal yet, although potentially in the spring. I also think Brooks made a big mistake not playing. He's not a solid draft pick by any means and Avery could've given him some great tape.
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Brooks sitting out was a bit of a surprise, but I do feel like if you think you’re just on the cusp of getting drafted the worst thing you can do is get injured in a bowl game. He’s got plenty of tape already.
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a guy like Brooks should have absolutely played last night. he robbed himself going out eating sweet pop tarts, and there's no way he's getting drafted. i love the guy and the kind of receiver/returner he is, but come on. deuce almost didn't get drafted and brooks isn't near as electric and practically the same size at a position where you need more size.
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Maybe Brooks has celiac and was worried about getting showered with the post-sacrificial remains of the Pop Tart mascot.
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a guy like Brooks should have absolutely played last night. he robbed himself going out eating sweet pop tarts, and there's no way he's getting drafted. i love the guy and the kind of receiver/returner he is, but come on. deuce almost didn't get drafted and brooks isn't near as electric and practically the same size at a position where you need more size.
Yeah, no NFL team is confusing him with TLBL.
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I am unfamiliar with this Michael guy but this is the worst writing OAT. Just horrific to try to get through. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/longformarticle/kansas-state-football-avery-johnson-jayce-brown-DJamer-giddens-desmond-purnell-224077634/
Dear God. Did he get AI help with this but messed up the transcription?
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I am unfamiliar with this Michael guy but this is the worst writing OAT. Just horrific to try to get through. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/longformarticle/kansas-state-football-avery-johnson-jayce-brown-DJamer-giddens-desmond-purnell-224077634/
Dear God. Did he get AI help with this but messed up the transcription?
I was wondering the same but AI isn’t that shitty.
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I am unfamiliar with this Michael guy but this is the worst writing OAT. Just horrific to try to get through. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/longformarticle/kansas-state-football-avery-johnson-jayce-brown-DJamer-giddens-desmond-purnell-224077634/
Dear God. Did he get AI help with this but messed up the transcription?
It definitely reads like he prompted ChatGPT to do a GPC write up about the game but it assumed GPC meant German or something and the guy just ran it through Google translate and hit submit.
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Fitz should have to read that article out loud as punishment for publishing it.
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I listened to a lot of post game chatter analysis and they absolutely told Avery to keep himself clean so to speak.
Rewatching the play I’m remembering it was maybe that very last one when we got a first down to seal it and he just turned good back to the hit to protect everything.
Seeing it live was wtf because we’ve just never seen Kstate qbs give themselves up.
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His legs are elite and the short hop throw to the right end was just rushed. He could have set better for that.
The way he moves up and knows how to escape was terrific. And if he breaks zero dline will ever catch him.
This will cause linebackers and safeties to break off when he breaks the pocket
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I’m sure that’s why they had that pop pass ready to go against ncstate
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a guy like Brooks should have absolutely played last night. he robbed himself going out eating sweet pop tarts, and there's no way he's getting drafted. i love the guy and the kind of receiver/returner he is, but come on. deuce almost didn't get drafted and brooks isn't near as electric and practically the same size at a position where you need more size.
Not trying to be a cranky old person and this is not specific to Brooks but at what point does all of the "opting out" end? Like if a player realizes their team won't make the CFP 8 games into the season can they opt out of the rest of that season's games because they are meaningless opportunities to get a career-ending injury? Will participation in bowl games become a condition of NIL money? If bowl games are meaningless and not worth playing in, which games during the regular season are meaningful?
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The Phog is less than impressed with AJ. convinced that his ceiling is lower than Jason Bean.
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The Phog is less than impressed with AJ. convinced that his ceiling is lower than Jason Bean.
Means they scared
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The Phog is less than impressed with AJ. convinced that his ceiling is lower than Jason Bean.
Winbush > Sproles
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The Phog is less than impressed with AJ. convinced that his ceiling is lower than Jason Bean.
Yeah we just replaced a QB who will probably start for either Ohio State or USC with a guy whose ceiling is 7 wins.
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a guy like Brooks should have absolutely played last night. he robbed himself going out eating sweet pop tarts, and there's no way he's getting drafted. i love the guy and the kind of receiver/returner he is, but come on. deuce almost didn't get drafted and brooks isn't near as electric and practically the same size at a position where you need more size.
Not trying to be a cranky old person and this is not specific to Brooks but at what point does all of the "opting out" end? Like if a player realizes their team won't make the CFP 8 games into the season can they opt out of the rest of that season's games because they are meaningless opportunities to get a career-ending injury? Will participation in bowl games become a condition of NIL money? If bowl games are meaningless and not worth playing in, which games during the regular season are meaningful?
It will end when they are declared employees and their contracts under the CBA require them to play with the appropriate compensation and insurance safeguards for injuries.
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a guy like Brooks should have absolutely played last night. he robbed himself going out eating sweet pop tarts, and there's no way he's getting drafted. i love the guy and the kind of receiver/returner he is, but come on. deuce almost didn't get drafted and brooks isn't near as electric and practically the same size at a position where you need more size.
Not trying to be a cranky old person and this is not specific to Brooks but at what point does all of the "opting out" end? Like if a player realizes their team won't make the CFP 8 games into the season can they opt out of the rest of that season's games because they are meaningless opportunities to get a career-ending injury? Will participation in bowl games become a condition of NIL money? If bowl games are meaningless and not worth playing in, which games during the regular season are meaningful?
It will end when they are declared employees and their contracts under the CBA require them to play with the appropriate compensation and insurance safeguards for injuries.
Who is going to declare them employees?
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the schools unless they can get us fans to keep paying them via NIL
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a guy like Brooks should have absolutely played last night. he robbed himself going out eating sweet pop tarts, and there's no way he's getting drafted. i love the guy and the kind of receiver/returner he is, but come on. deuce almost didn't get drafted and brooks isn't near as electric and practically the same size at a position where you need more size.
Not trying to be a cranky old person and this is not specific to Brooks but at what point does all of the "opting out" end? Like if a player realizes their team won't make the CFP 8 games into the season can they opt out of the rest of that season's games because they are meaningless opportunities to get a career-ending injury? Will participation in bowl games become a condition of NIL money? If bowl games are meaningless and not worth playing in, which games during the regular season are meaningful?
It will end when they are declared employees and their contracts under the CBA require them to play with the appropriate compensation and insurance safeguards for injuries.
Who is going to declare them employees?
Probably them, at first. Then the courts.
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the schools unless they can get us fans to keep paying them via NIL
So in this scenario do the NIL boosters just now donate to the AD again? I don't really see how it benefits the kids to organize considering how freely the money flows right now.
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the schools unless they can get us fans to keep paying them via NIL
So in this scenario do the NIL boosters just now donate to the AD again? I don't really see how it benefits the kids to organize considering how freely the money flows right now.
they will organize when the sports bubble bursts as us sports crazy Gen Xers start to die off and the kids we raised choose not to keep it going
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the schools unless they can get us fans to keep paying them via NIL
So in this scenario do the NIL boosters just now donate to the AD again? I don't really see how it benefits the kids to organize considering how freely the money flows right now.
they will organize when the sports bubble bursts as us sports crazy Gen Xers start to die off and the kids we raised choose not to keep it going
Probably true.
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Will definitely be interesting to see how it all shakes out with paying players/title 9.
I think NIL will still be around once the universities start paying players. Will be something like each scholarship player gets 100k(completely made up number) and then NIL will be on top of that.
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the schools unless they can get us fans to keep paying them via NIL
So in this scenario do the NIL boosters just now donate to the AD again? I don't really see how it benefits the kids to organize considering how freely the money flows right now.
they will organize when the sports bubble bursts as us sports crazy Gen Xers start to die off and the kids we raised choose not to keep it going
Probably true.
Yeah
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the schools unless they can get us fans to keep paying them via NIL
So in this scenario do the NIL boosters just now donate to the AD again? I don't really see how it benefits the kids to organize considering how freely the money flows right now.
The money isn't really flowing that freely though. We had two draft opt outs, Sinnott and Brooks. How much NIL do you think they were getting? I bet you it's way less than what the NCAA president proposed that players get paid under his new model.
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the schools unless they can get us fans to keep paying them via NIL
So in this scenario do the NIL boosters just now donate to the AD again? I don't really see how it benefits the kids to organize considering how freely the money flows right now.
The money isn't really flowing that freely though. We had two draft opt outs, Sinnott and Brooks. How much NIL do you think they were getting? I bet you it's way less than what the NCAA president proposed that players get paid under his new model.
Does every scholarship athlete get the minimum or just the football team?
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the schools unless they can get us fans to keep paying them via NIL
So in this scenario do the NIL boosters just now donate to the AD again? I don't really see how it benefits the kids to organize considering how freely the money flows right now.
The money isn't really flowing that freely though. We had two draft opt outs, Sinnott and Brooks. How much NIL do you think they were getting? I bet you it's way less than what the NCAA president proposed that players get paid under his new model.
Does every scholarship athlete get the minimum or just the football team?
Every scholarship athlete, but the schools have the latitude to give some players more
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Avery getting swole.
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1760348676940038626?t=CivcA6-bUMAzJG2oMlpqHA&s=19
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You can see the weight he's put on, looks pretty broad in the chest
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You can see the weight he's put on, looks pretty broad in the chest
He needs to gain 150 more pounds to ensure no injuries imo.
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You can see the weight he's put on, looks pretty broad in the chest
He needs to gain 150 more pounds to ensure no injuries imo.
Watch the Wildcat NIL video. He's shooting for 210 in off-season to carry 200+ over the season.
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You can see the weight he's put on, looks pretty broad in the chest
He needs to gain 150 more pounds to ensure no injuries imo.
I need to this translated into biscuits
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Avery hasn't touched a biscuit since 5th grade. That body is a temple.
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Zero chance he's smoking cigs the night before the ku game
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lol
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Zero chance he's smoking cigs the night before the ku game
Passed out on a pool table as well if I remember the wacky cat story correctly.
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Probably sending girls to the ER somewhere in between
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Zero chance he's smoking cigs the night before the ku game
Passed out on a pool table as well if I remember the wacky cat story correctly.
Need to hear this story
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Zero chance he's smoking cigs the night before the ku game
Passed out on a pool table as well if I remember the wacky cat story correctly.
Need to hear this story
It's about Freemaw, right?
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DON'T COMPARE OUR GOLDEN CHILD WITH THAT SMOKING/DRINKING/PARTYING FREEMAW DUDE WHO COULDN'T BEAT KU, MOO. OR NUB; DUE TO HIS HUNGOVER STATE.
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Zero chance he's smoking cigs the night before the ku game
Passed out on a pool table as well if I remember the wacky cat story correctly.
Need to hear this story
It's about Freemaw, right?
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Correct
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a fun thing about the KSU Freeman (and Prince, by association) hate is his wins over top 10 teams in his three seasons is about half of LHC Bill Snyder's wins over top 10 teams in his entire 145 year career. our fanbase is just who they are.
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But aren’t most of those just beating Texas when it had almost zero significance to our season? (I say almost cause the big one in Manhattan was needed to become bowl eligible IIRC)
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But aren’t most of those just beating Texas when it had almost zero significance to our season? (I say almost cause the big one in Manhattan was needed to become bowl eligible IIRC)
I want him to know ... it was KU who did it.
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a fun thing about the KSU Freeman (and Prince, by association) hate is his wins over top 10 teams in his three seasons is about half of LHC Bill Snyder's wins over top 10 teams in his entire 145 year career. our fanbase is just who they are.
Yeah, I think people would look at Prince's tenure a lot more favorably if he just would have won more games.
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I doubt Matt Boss would have
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a fun thing about the KSU Freeman (and Prince, by association) hate is his wins over top 10 teams in his three seasons is about half of LHC Bill Snyder's wins over top 10 teams in his entire 145 year career. our fanbase is just who they are.
Yeah, I think people would look at Prince's tenure a lot more favorably if he just would have won more games.
Interesting, if true.
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But aren’t most of those just beating Texas when it had almost zero significance to our season? (I say almost cause the big one in Manhattan was needed to become bowl eligible IIRC)
I want him to know ... it was KU who did it.
Which led to a record setting losing streak
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I doubt Matt Boss would have
You don't know that for sure though
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https://twitter.com/ESPN_BillC/status/1762159206382125390?t=SMcH7PO773rcpe5Y_1zReg&s=19