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Title: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on May 25, 2022, 11:09:43 PM
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Title: Re: Adrian Martinez American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on May 25, 2022, 11:13:28 PM
crap, who knew that Adrian Martinez had his own podcast?


https://twitter.com/ATHunfiltered/status/1499078330754035712?s=20&t=J1ybAtfSlLTUxTDUy6dDyQ
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on May 25, 2022, 11:17:29 PM
Adrian Martinez takes you through his 2021 Nebraska football season game by game. What a snake bit season. I’ve always believed winning or losing close games comes down to coaching.  I hope it’s not Adrian Martinez and it was because the coaches just put him in bad situations.


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Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: steve dave on May 26, 2022, 06:01:53 AM
HE’S GOOD AS crap!
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Winters on May 26, 2022, 12:29:46 PM
We love you, Adrian!
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: 'taterblast on May 26, 2022, 02:23:16 PM
what's the catch here, this dude is incredible to listen to.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on May 27, 2022, 08:02:26 AM
https://twitter.com/Cole_Manbeck/status/1530166098557120514?s=20&t=M5fxhFnUj8-xWFuPp15PNg
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on June 09, 2022, 08:49:35 AM
lof’nl
https://twitter.com/Outkick/status/1534880077997015041?s=20&t=LAxOtk3ddBa1YlspJwkKYw
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: OK_Cat on June 09, 2022, 11:02:32 AM
Adrian could end up being shitty as a qb and I won’t care, because getting Nebraska worked up on social media is what I live for


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Title: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2022, 11:09:50 AM
Point counterpoint from Cort’

https://twitter.com/cortneyweil/status/1534892747513073665
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: WildcatNation on June 09, 2022, 12:27:30 PM
Would be incredible if they somehow managed to win 6 games this year and Adrian and the Cats got to destroy them in a bowl
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: KCFDcat on June 09, 2022, 12:31:58 PM
every sane 'sker fan I know is pretty sure Adrian is gonna kill it this year, while Nebraska will be looking for a new coach after another 4 win season
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: GregKSU1027 on June 09, 2022, 01:04:11 PM
I for one am the biggest Amart fan, I have no idea how you can hate him. Unless of course you are from Lincoln
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on June 09, 2022, 03:11:46 PM
I'm a little disappointed that he's not adorable though, we've had some hot QBs and ones who haven't been dream boats haven't been good at all. Beaz is the patron saint of not hot KSU starting QBs, but since him that list hasn't been good; Grant Gregory, CCQ, Bazooka Joe, and Big Bill Howard.
Title: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2022, 03:15:20 PM
he’s cute
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2022, 03:17:03 PM
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Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: nicname on June 09, 2022, 03:42:54 PM
I'm a little disappointed that he's not adorable though, we've had some hot QBs and ones who haven't been dream boats haven't been good at all. Beaz is the patron saint of not hot KSU starting QBs, but since him that list hasn't been good; Grant Gregory, CCQ, Bazooka Joe, and Big Bill Howard.

CCQ was hot enough to replace a male model in GOT.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: wetwillie on June 09, 2022, 03:44:55 PM
Ertz had a face for radio and he was pretty good
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on June 09, 2022, 05:14:59 PM
Ertz had a face for radio

you're out of your goddamned mind, best looking male ging o.a.t, with apologies to our very own ging
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Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on July 11, 2022, 08:55:43 AM
https://twitter.com/CFBFilmRoom/status/1546489221904465922?s=20&t=7VLNmh2oVieWnLJTqXLygQ
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on July 13, 2022, 04:10:31 PM
Smellis the Jayhawk is bringing the smoke
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1547326302818115588?s=20&t=3hVFSYUxvEGb6eY_yrDILw
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 28, 2022, 11:53:38 AM
"Can't win with Martinez playing like that" . . . AM reference in the last episode of Better Call Saul.

In hiding Gene Takavic aka Saul Goodman aka James Morgan McGill aka Slippin Jimmy  trying to blend into the woodwork in what I can only presume is that godforsaken hellscape known as Omaha, NE.

Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Tobias on July 28, 2022, 11:57:07 AM
taylor martinez but yeah pretty fun
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 28, 2022, 11:58:42 AM
taylor martinez but yeah pretty fun

 :blank: Okay

Yeah, it was Texas, so that was pre AM.

Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on August 04, 2022, 04:41:17 PM
https://twitter.com/scottwildcat/status/1555286390585409545?s=20&t=-O6V0y8KRZ887Wal7w1CdQ
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 04, 2022, 04:50:05 PM
Their o-line was white hot garbage
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: cfbandyman on August 04, 2022, 05:21:33 PM
Their o-line was white hot garbage

An insult to white hot garbage but yes
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: ben ji on August 04, 2022, 06:46:05 PM
Best option QB/RB combo since Ell and Sproles?
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: KCFDcat on August 04, 2022, 07:09:17 PM
Best option QB/RB combo since Ell and Sproles?

Klein and Hubert were really good. Really hoping the option is a play we see a lot of this year.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: ben ji on August 04, 2022, 10:41:53 PM
Best option QB/RB combo since Ell and Sproles?

Klein and Hubert were really good. Really hoping the option is a play we see a lot of this year.
No doubt CK7 and Hubert were great at running the option but neither has the "break away speed/big play ability" of Martinez/Duece.

But if it's 3rd and 3 I would take CK7/Hubert over anyone else when it comes to getting a first down. 75% of the time CK7 Would keep the ball and plow over some LB for a 4 yard gain.



Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: wetwillie on August 04, 2022, 10:46:26 PM
Adrian just came off shoulder surgery and you all want to run him like it’s 2003, shaking my smdh.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 04, 2022, 10:56:21 PM
I want Adrian sliding and running out of bounds.  Come guys we were getting away from sketti-brained QB plays.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Katpappy on August 04, 2022, 11:16:37 PM
I don't think CK7 would call those types of plays knowing what he went thru. 
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2022, 08:00:31 AM
Ram him brain first into linebackers 15+ times a game or he can gtfo


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Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: OK_Cat on August 05, 2022, 08:13:33 AM
He’s just a place holder for Avery, if he dies he dies


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Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: wetwillie on August 05, 2022, 09:10:38 AM
You dumbasses apparently have forgotten what it’s like to watch Will Howard captain our ship.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Pete on August 05, 2022, 09:11:24 AM
Ram him brain first into linebackers 15+ times a game or he can gtfo


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Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: ben ji on August 05, 2022, 09:48:25 AM
You dumbasses apparently have forgotten what it’s like to watch Will Howard captain our ship.
I feel like a junior Will Howard would be successful running the 2011 CK7 offense where he only throws the ball 10 times a game and rams his brain into LB's 15+ times a game.

Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on August 05, 2022, 09:53:07 AM
I love people that live in a world where nobody ever improves from their first year right out of high school as an 18 year-old kid with a dysfunctional locker room during the Covid season.  Shaking my dang SMDH
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: KCFDcat on August 05, 2022, 09:56:22 AM
I love people that live in a world where nobody ever improves from their first year right out of high school as an 18 year-old kid with a dysfunctional locker room during the Covid season.  Shaking my dang SMDH

Ok but he wasn't really any better last year, and we were told he was the best backup qb in America.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on August 05, 2022, 10:44:41 AM
I love people that live in a world where nobody ever improves from their first year right out of high school as an 18 year-old kid with a dysfunctional locker room during the Covid season.  Shaking my dang SMDH

Ok but he wasn't really any better last year, and we were told he was the best backup qb in America.
Yes, I agree, Will hasn’t exactly lit it on fire in his first two years.  I think everybody agrees that Avery Johnson is the heir apparent after this year. We are banking on major improvement from Adrian Martinez over last year and we are banking on Avery Johnson coming in and being a D1 power five starting quarterback as a true freshman.  Will Howard needs to be a serviceable back up QB this year and unless everybody can guarantee that Avery Johnson will be who we think he is as a true freshman, it would be nice to have a Will Howard with 4 years in the system in 2023 in case Avery Johnson needs a development year.  It’s going to be very difficult to recruit a Class of 24 quarterback or to get someone out of the portal with Avery Johnson on the roster. I see no purpose in dragging Will Howard. The kid is by all accounts a good locker room guy and was highly thought of out of high school. With Chris Klieman’s track record identifying & developing NFL quarterbacks, I think I would give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.  But by all means, if it makes people feel good bagging on Will Howard every chance they get, knock yourselves out.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 05, 2022, 10:45:58 AM
Don't forget about 4* Jake Rubely!
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: wetwillie on August 05, 2022, 10:50:15 AM
We will get a P5 worthy HS QB every year. These dudes aren’t afraid of competition.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Hurricane Cat on August 05, 2022, 08:20:56 PM
Ram him brain first into linebackers 15+ times a game or he can gtfo


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This is really creepy Pete
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: jtksu on August 05, 2022, 11:52:36 PM
I love people that live in a world where nobody ever improves from their first year right out of high school as an 18 year-old kid with a dysfunctional locker room during the Covid season.  Shaking my dang SMDH

Ok but he wasn't really any better last year, and we were told he was the best backup qb in America.
Yes, I agree, Will hasn’t exactly lit it on fire in his first two years.  I think everybody agrees that Avery Johnson is the heir apparent after this year. We are banking on major improvement from Adrian Martinez over last year and we are banking on Avery Johnson coming in and being a D1 power five starting quarterback as a true freshman.  Will Howard needs to be a serviceable back up QB this year and unless everybody can guarantee that Avery Johnson will be who we think he is as a true freshman, it would be nice to have a Will Howard with 4 years in the system in 2023 in case Avery Johnson needs a development year.  It’s going to be very difficult to recruit a Class of 24 quarterback or to get someone out of the portal with Avery Johnson on the roster. I see no purpose in dragging Will Howard. The kid is by all accounts a good locker room guy and was highly thought of out of high school. With Chris Klieman’s track record identifying & developing NFL quarterbacks, I think I would give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.  But by all means, if it makes people feel good bagging on Will Howard every chance they get, knock yourselves out.

We could always get some senior QB to transfer in to battle it out with Howard to see who gets to keep Averys seat warm for a year.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: nicname on August 06, 2022, 03:36:34 AM
Best option QB/RB combo since Ell and Sproles?

Klein and Hubert were really good. Really hoping the option is a play we see a lot of this year.
No doubt CK7 and Hubert were great at running the option but neither has the "break away speed/big play ability" of Martinez/Duece.

But if it's 3rd and 3 I would take CK7/Hubert over anyone else when it comes to getting a first down. 75% of the time CK7 Would keep the ball and plow over some LB for a 4 yard gain.

Hickson
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: nicname on August 06, 2022, 03:41:38 AM
Imagine what Snyder would do with two totally dispensable quarterbacks that can run pretty fast. Just go QB power like 30 time a game. When Martinez is concussed, just ram Howard into their asses while Adrian is snorting smelling salts and counting fingers.

I’m ready for some football.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on August 06, 2022, 04:30:55 PM
https://twitter.com/kremlacek_zach/status/1555757497767514115?s=20&t=tdy-hO24I_PqyRXe3CSWwA
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Katpappy on August 06, 2022, 07:40:19 PM
Imagine what Snyder would do with two totally dispensable quarterbacks that can run pretty fast. Just go QB power like 30 time a game. When Martinez is concussed, just ram Howard into their asses while Adrian is snorting smelling salts and counting fingers.

I’m ready for some football.

That's one of the main reasons I'm glad Snyder is not coaching the Cats anymore.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: KCFDcat on August 11, 2022, 11:51:09 AM
I'm home on injury leave for a few weeks and I'm already bored out of my mind, soooooo I watched (almost) every Big 10 snap from Nebraska's 2021 season to try to better understand Martinez's strange year, and see what kind of qb we'll be getting this year. WARNING: I am not a football expert, and this does not include advanced stats, mostly just what I can see from tv broadcasts.

Some takeaways:

They were actually a pretty good team last year; some really bad special teams, some really bad coaching decisions, and some bad turnovers probably lost them 4-5 games. I think Martinez's play probably cost them 2 games (michigan fumble with 2 min left during a tie game, and purdue, 4 int) However, he also kept them in some games (ohio sate) they probably wouldn't have been competitive with a lesser qb.

Special teams probably cost them games vs illinois(dumb safety, missed fg, missed xp) and ohio state (2 missed field goals, lost by 6)

End of game play calling was pretty bad, vs Wisconsin down 7 with 1 min to go and one TO they went for the end zone 4 times in a row from the 25 yard line, never tried to get 10-15 yards and get out of bounds. Even when Wisconsin just put their entire secondary on the goal line. Seemed like the coaching staff treated him like a Mahomes-esque qb and expected him to be able to go make plays without much support.

O line play was really bad. Like really really bad.

He really only had 2 receiving targets: FCS Transfer WR Samori Toure and TE Austin Allen. Those 2 players accounted for over 50% of his yardage. Their 3rd option had 380 yds.

Some stats:

Martinez completed 62% of his passes for 2863 yds (9.4 y/a) 14 td, 10 int (Skylar was 69.5% completion 2100 yds (9.1 y/a) 12 td, 4 int)
He also rushed for 525 yds and 13 td.

Their best RB rushed for less than 500 yds and only 4 td

Martinez strengths:

Rolling out and throwing on the run: Maybe it was just because the o line play was so atrocious, but he rarely stayed in the pocket. they almost always moved him around the field and forced him to throw on the run.

Scrambling: He's pretty good at getting away from pressure and getting the first down or at least 5+ yards. He had to do that a lot as we all know the o line was bad.

Short Yardage: they basically used him as a short yardage back most of the year. They'd often line him up in an empty set and run him straight at the line on 3rd and 3 or less.

Option: He's pretty great at running the option, they used is pretty effectively last year despite not having much of a running back. They often ran a jet option with their #1 WR Toure.

Martinez Weaknesses:

It's obvious here but, Turnovers: A lot of his Ints stemmed from trying to make a play out of nothing. His worst game vs Purdue he tried a shovel pass while getting sacked and a DE stepped right in front of it and picked it off. His only other multi Int game was vs Wisconsin. He had one puzzling throw where there was not a single WR in a 15 yard radius. Maybe someone ran the wrong route or something. On the bright side, he was pressured A TON and in general handled it pretty well. It seemed like the staff there didn't do much to try to help him out, he rarely had a RB safety valve to dump to despite the frequent pressure (granted they usually needed the RB to help block) By my count, 3 of his ints should be attributed to WRs dropping the ball or tipping it to a defender.

I think I only remember 2 or 3 fumbles and they were mostly strip sacks while he was running from pressure with the ball in one hand. The one that sticks out is a short 2 yard run up the middle vs Mich where he was stripped and essentially handed the win to Michigan. I'm hoping he won't be doing much, if any, running the ball straight into the line at K-State.

Accuracy: When he doesn't get his feet set he tends to throw off his back foot and the ball sails on him. He missed several open receivers like this and it attributed to 3 or 4 of his Ints

Ending thoughts:

I think his TO problem was mainly a product of the team he played on. He had little time to throw the ball, and he knew he was going to be the one to have to make a play. If the coaching staff can give him some easier options, and his receivers can get a little bit of separation I think that number comes down to that 4-5 number.

I expect Deuce is going to get a lot of catches out of the backfield again (shocking)

His running ability combined with Deuce is going to be frustrating for defenses.

My prediction is he throws for 2700 yards and 12 td with 5 int. Gains probably 350 on the ground and another 5 td.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: cfbandyman on August 11, 2022, 12:13:13 PM
I actually watched a lot of Nubbs games last year (many friends are) so I saw a lot of Martinez's play in real time, and in general I will echo the same sentiments.

His o-line was just, god awful, and one thing to keep in mind from a "luck" stand point, Nubbs was exceedingly unlucky. Look it up, they only won 1 big 10 game, but there PF/PA was dead even, which speaks to how many damn close/weird ass games they were in. Martinez can definitely be blamed for many of those issues, but he also cannot be blamed for as many if not more issues as well. Also Nubbs defense was very inconsistent, they could be equally lock down as equally WTF depending on the game and situation.

I tend to echo your overall assessment, I do think he'll have more TOs than 5 ints, but I expect not much more like 7 or 8. Even with his lack of a oline he still can cowboy it up a bit, regardless he's going to be an exciting watch, and his experience and talent combined with having a competent o-line, and better cast of characters around him that will take some pressure off him, with hopefully a better play caller in Klein will mean he should thrive pretty well.

Assume he's healthy, I think he'll throw for about 2500 yards, 18ish TDs, 8 INTs, and more like 400 or 500 yards of rushing (I think he'll get some big scramble plays to booth the overall numbers). I do think he'll rush for like 8ish TDs, he's too good a runner and scrambler to not find a hole if things break down and take something long on the ground.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: ben ji on August 11, 2022, 12:15:24 PM
Great write ups, I'm all aboard the 10-2 play in Arlington for a big12 title train.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Trim on August 11, 2022, 12:21:53 PM
Is he James McGill or nah?
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: KCFDcat on August 11, 2022, 12:24:23 PM
I actually watched a lot of Nubbs games last year (many friends are) so I saw a lot of Martinez's play in real time, and in general I will echo the same sentiments.

His o-line was just, god awful, and one thing to keep in mind from a "luck" stand point, Nubbs was exceedingly unlucky. Look it up, they only won 1 big 10 game, but there PF/PA was dead even, which speaks to how many damn close/weird ass games they were in. Martinez can definitely be blamed for many of those issues, but he also cannot be blamed for as many if not more issues as well. Also Nubbs defense was very inconsistent, they could be equally lock down as equally WTF depending on the game and situation.

I tend to echo your overall assessment, I do think he'll have more TOs than 5 ints, but I expect not much more like 7 or 8. Even with his lack of a oline he still can cowboy it up a bit, regardless he's going to be an exciting watch, and his experience and talent combined with having a competent o-line, and better cast of characters around him that will take some pressure off him, with hopefully a better play caller in Klein will mean he should thrive pretty well.

Assume he's healthy, I think he'll throw for about 2500 yards, 18ish TDs, 8 INTs, and more like 400 or 500 yards of rushing (I think he'll get some big scramble plays to booth the overall numbers). I do think he'll rush for like 8ish TDs, he's too good a runner and scrambler to not find a hole if things break down and take something long on the ground.

Yeah, 7 or 8 Int is probably more realistic. I may be placing too much blame on the coaching staff for his "cowboy" throws. 18 passing TDs would be amazing. Also hoping we're not in as many come from behind games in the 4th quarter like they were, so he won't be trying to hero it up all the time.

I put him at 300 yards on the ground mainly due to the fact that he probably won't have as many designed runs for him this year. But yes he'll definitely break off some long TD runs a few times
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 11, 2022, 12:29:24 PM
This seems like premium gE content.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on August 11, 2022, 12:43:14 PM
Special teams probably cost them games vs illinois(dumb safety, missed fg, missed xp) and ohio state (2 missed field goals, lost by 6)
Premium content! Somebody get this man a Cabello’s gift card. Thanks KCFD

I remember watching that Illinois game and thinking if they had just hired Sean Snyder as the special teams coach instead of trying to lowball him as an analyst & losing him to USC, they probably would’ve been bowl eligible.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: cfbandyman on August 11, 2022, 04:46:28 PM
I actually watched a lot of Nubbs games last year (many friends are) so I saw a lot of Martinez's play in real time, and in general I will echo the same sentiments.

His o-line was just, god awful, and one thing to keep in mind from a "luck" stand point, Nubbs was exceedingly unlucky. Look it up, they only won 1 big 10 game, but there PF/PA was dead even, which speaks to how many damn close/weird ass games they were in. Martinez can definitely be blamed for many of those issues, but he also cannot be blamed for as many if not more issues as well. Also Nubbs defense was very inconsistent, they could be equally lock down as equally WTF depending on the game and situation.

I tend to echo your overall assessment, I do think he'll have more TOs than 5 ints, but I expect not much more like 7 or 8. Even with his lack of a oline he still can cowboy it up a bit, regardless he's going to be an exciting watch, and his experience and talent combined with having a competent o-line, and better cast of characters around him that will take some pressure off him, with hopefully a better play caller in Klein will mean he should thrive pretty well.

Assume he's healthy, I think he'll throw for about 2500 yards, 18ish TDs, 8 INTs, and more like 400 or 500 yards of rushing (I think he'll get some big scramble plays to booth the overall numbers). I do think he'll rush for like 8ish TDs, he's too good a runner and scrambler to not find a hole if things break down and take something long on the ground.

Yeah, 7 or 8 Int is probably more realistic. I may be placing too much blame on the coaching staff for his "cowboy" throws. 18 passing TDs would be amazing. Also hoping we're not in as many come from behind games in the 4th quarter like they were, so he won't be trying to hero it up all the time.

I put him at 300 yards on the ground mainly due to the fact that he probably won't have as many designed runs for him this year. But yes he'll definitely break off some long TD runs a few times

Sure with the yards. I guess for the passing TDs I didn't think 1.5TD/game was overly crazy :dunno:
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: nicname on August 14, 2022, 11:28:26 PM
I actually watched a lot of Nubbs games last year (many friends are) so I saw a lot of Martinez's play in real time, and in general I will echo the same sentiments.

His o-line was just, god awful, and one thing to keep in mind from a "luck" stand point, Nubbs was exceedingly unlucky. Look it up, they only won 1 big 10 game, but there PF/PA was dead even, which speaks to how many damn close/weird ass games they were in. Martinez can definitely be blamed for many of those issues, but he also cannot be blamed for as many if not more issues as well. Also Nubbs defense was very inconsistent, they could be equally lock down as equally WTF depending on the game and situation.

I tend to echo your overall assessment, I do think he'll have more TOs than 5 ints, but I expect not much more like 7 or 8. Even with his lack of a oline he still can cowboy it up a bit, regardless he's going to be an exciting watch, and his experience and talent combined with having a competent o-line, and better cast of characters around him that will take some pressure off him, with hopefully a better play caller in Klein will mean he should thrive pretty well.

Assume he's healthy, I think he'll throw for about 2500 yards, 18ish TDs, 8 INTs, and more like 400 or 500 yards of rushing (I think he'll get some big scramble plays to booth the overall numbers). I do think he'll rush for like 8ish TDs, he's too good a runner and scrambler to not find a hole if things break down and take something long on the ground.

Yeah, 7 or 8 Int is probably more realistic. I may be placing too much blame on the coaching staff for his "cowboy" throws. 18 passing TDs would be amazing. Also hoping we're not in as many come from behind games in the 4th quarter like they were, so he won't be trying to hero it up all the time.

I put him at 300 yards on the ground mainly due to the fact that he probably won't have as many designed runs for him this year. But yes he'll definitely break off some long TD runs a few times

If we’re going to be legitimate B12 contenders Martinez is going to be doing a lot more damage on the ground than that.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: cfbandyman on August 14, 2022, 11:37:06 PM
Don't disagree, but also I think he won't need to hustle as much with us vs Nubbs given o-line improvments. But as stated I think he gets closer to 400-500 yards and around 7/8 ground TDs, maybe more. After all soon to be Dolphin's QB1 Thompson had 4 just vs OU in 2019
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Stevesie60 on August 15, 2022, 12:19:19 AM
I would love to see how these Martinez reviews would go if he had transferred to KU instead of K-State.

(This comment has nothing to do with the reviewers in this thread, just about K-State fans in general)
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: nicname on August 15, 2022, 03:39:45 AM
I would love to see how these Martinez reviews would go if he had transferred to KU instead of K-State.

(This comment has nothing to do with the reviewers in this thread, just about K-State fans in general)

He would have only gone to KU if he were shittier.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: KCFDcat on August 15, 2022, 06:51:15 AM
I would love to see how these Martinez reviews would go if he had transferred to KU instead of K-State.

(This comment has nothing to do with the reviewers in this thread, just about K-State fans in general)

My opinion of him would be the same: he’s a good qb who was put in a system that didn’t suit him with an o line that never learned to block. Since KU also has a crap o line I’d say he’d have a similar year. He’d win them some games for sure, but would also struggle to be consistent. However I think the coaching staff at KU is better than Nebraska. (Hard to know about their new offensive staff though)
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 15, 2022, 09:01:56 AM
KU would probably win 5 or 6 games with Martinez at QB. They would still be worse than Nebraska was last year, but Nebraska dropped a few games they should have won so the records would be about the same.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: ChiComCat on August 15, 2022, 09:06:36 AM
He was a 4 year P5 starter at QB.  KU hasn't had a legitimate P5 starting QB since Reesing so Martinez would've clearly been a big upgrade for them.  He would take them to heights they haven't seen in over a decade, winning a couple B12 games for them.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on August 15, 2022, 11:36:16 AM
KU would probably win 5 or 6 games with Martinez at QB. They would still be worse than Nebraska was last year, but Nebraska dropped a few games they should have won so the records would be about the same.

How many do you think they'll win with Jaylon Daniels? I think they're pretty similar QBs.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 15, 2022, 11:49:32 AM
KU would probably win 5 or 6 games with Martinez at QB. They would still be worse than Nebraska was last year, but Nebraska dropped a few games they should have won so the records would be about the same.

How many do you think they'll win with Jaylon Daniels? I think they're pretty similar QBs.

I think they win 3 or 4 games this year. I'd be very surprised if they don't beat Tennessee Tech and Duke, anyway, and they probably win at least one conference game.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on August 16, 2022, 04:05:59 PM
Folks, It’s coming right into your living room
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1559640002522480642?s=20&t=I_xUJ6U_3FoNRDfFAM0gGQ
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: wetwillie on August 16, 2022, 04:15:27 PM
Why won’t they show him launching nukes
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 04, 2022, 12:38:07 PM
AM got hit on a corner blitz. Hard to say whether he could’ve/should’ve held onto it or if he should’ve had better pocket awareness. Probably had better wide receivers at N and our play calling was pretty conservative. Probably a B performance overall considering he wasn’t asked to do much.
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Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: chum1 on September 04, 2022, 01:38:09 PM
There were times when he held the ball for a REALLY long time.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Houstoncat93 on September 04, 2022, 01:44:10 PM
There were times when he held the ball for a REALLY long time.

Yeah, either our receivers weren't getting open or he was making too conservative decisions to avoid interceptions. Either way it is slightly concerning.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 04, 2022, 01:46:35 PM
On a positive note, everybody seems to think Katori Levingston had a good game and should be fine at left tackle
https://twitter.com/KStateRecruits/status/1566492700639109122?s=20&t=Mt7rKpUEabwJ8KxG0If6SA
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: wiley on September 04, 2022, 01:58:46 PM
There were times when he held the ball for a REALLY long time.

Yeah, either our receivers weren't getting open or he was making too conservative decisions to avoid interceptions. Either way it is slightly concerning.
The camera angles on tv did nothing for viewers to see what was happening 5 yards down field, so my only assumption was no one was covering check downs unless it was Vaughn.  Other than that all we really saw was line play and the qb going through his progression.

But i think i counted 2 or 3 drops.  The 40+ yard pass to Brooks i thought was a great pass into coverage, but no replay and bad angle, i can’t confirm anything other than it was incomplete. Did Brooks even get his hands on it?


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Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: pissclams on September 04, 2022, 05:49:41 PM
martinez looked slow in every aspect of the qb position
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Spracne on September 04, 2022, 06:07:40 PM
martinez looked slow in every aspect of the qb position

No, you cannot have Jalon Daniels.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: catastrophe on September 04, 2022, 06:30:58 PM
martinez looked slow in every aspect of the qb position
He seemed like a pretty good runner
Title: Re: 9AM…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 05, 2022, 10:34:53 AM
Mods can we change the thread title to reflect his nickname?
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on September 05, 2022, 02:02:14 PM
AM got hit on a corner blitz. Hard to say whether he could’ve/should’ve held onto it or if he should’ve had better pocket awareness. Probably had better wide receivers at N and our play calling was pretty conservative. Probably a B performance overall considering he wasn’t asked to do much.
[tweet]1566470807588569088[/tweet]?s=20&t=tGFl9zCohJJ8VupTHHMqBg

He had less than 2 seconds after the snap, that was 100% on Katori. Generally not good when an end is just standing around while someone rushed behind him.

There were times when he held the ball for a REALLY long time.

Yeah, either our receivers weren't getting open or he was making too conservative decisions to avoid interceptions. Either way it is slightly concerning.
The camera angles on tv did nothing for viewers to see what was happening 5 yards down field, so my only assumption was no one was covering check downs unless it was Vaughn.  Other than that all we really saw was line play and the qb going through his progression.

But i think i counted 2 or 3 drops.  The 40+ yard pass to Brooks i thought was a great pass into coverage, but no replay and bad angle, i can’t confirm anything other than it was incomplete. Did Brooks even get his hands on it?


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He had open receivers and even hung in the pocket and stepped up a few times but he didn't let it go. The only egregious drop was the early one by Warner. The pass to Brooks did hit his hands but it was very well defended, I don't think Brooks even saw the ball. It was well thrown and we'll defended.

I also didn't think he looked as fast as I thought he would. What was also surprising to me is that he wasn't as elusive as I thought he would be. Will seems to be a better runner. Adrian might also be a bit gun shy from all the injuries.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 05, 2022, 03:19:46 PM
There were a few runs by AMart that I thought could have easily been a first down where he just floated out of bounds 2 yds short of the marker.  I suppose it could be attributed to the sizable lead, no need to sacrifice your body, or just being a fifth year starter realizing what it takes to get through the entire season.  I would have been more disappointed in a close game, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on September 05, 2022, 03:23:35 PM
Yeah, none of this is concerning after a week one game that was over before the offense took it's second snap.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: cfbandyman on September 05, 2022, 03:43:44 PM
Appreciate MiR's takes on his play, sounds somewhat discouraging but yet encouraging/we'll see next week I suppose (I could only listen so it's impossible to understand open/defended receivers and the types of plays/throws he was making, etc)
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 25, 2022, 04:02:51 PM
Dang, this thread had been pushed back three pages. Disrespectful to Heisman Trophy contender, Adrian Martinez.
https://twitter.com/ESPN_BillC/status/1573873229214752768?s=20&t=1Y-lxebaUx3y1HiswEqSGQ
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 25, 2022, 04:05:43 PM
https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1574059397969502214?s=20&t=1Y-lxebaUx3y1HiswEqSGQ
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 26, 2022, 07:28:43 AM
Deez Nutz
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/1574370307493822467?s=20&t=-P4gkYzQhXzJf7RYpp-HvQ
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HELLHAMMER on September 26, 2022, 08:19:56 AM
 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llHP2rnAHgY    (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llHP2rnAHgY)
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 26, 2022, 03:42:46 PM
https://twitter.com/CFBONFOX/status/1574494120977932288?s=20&t=1cuCWMVruQ5Lxn5YIKh_eg
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 26, 2022, 03:48:54 PM
A Herbie!
https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1574490152046673920?s=20&t=1cuCWMVruQ5Lxn5YIKh_eg
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on September 26, 2022, 05:07:01 PM
https://twitter.com/Big12Conference/status/1574443714067439616
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: pissclams on September 26, 2022, 05:40:36 PM
lol nebraska
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 26, 2022, 09:38:06 PM
https://vimeo.com/753911044/comments (https://vimeo.com/753911044/comments)
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HerrSonntag on September 26, 2022, 10:02:39 PM
https://vimeo.com/753911044/comments (https://vimeo.com/753911044/comments)
He's lucky he made it out of there alive
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2022, 10:20:17 PM
I apologize for mentioning that I thought he floated out of bounds to often.  Save yourself, Adrian. You deserve it.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 27, 2022, 12:24:46 PM
More accolades for Cat Hero 9AM:

https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1574809103737692161?s=20&t=t7quHhmWxwB7hwWELvYcow
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 27, 2022, 09:42:57 PM
9 AM is getting a lot of positive publicity
https://twitter.com/CBSSportsNet/status/1574942936084758528?s=20&t=Fy4ExWQPHuZfRcGPplTRPg
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 27, 2022, 09:51:04 PM
https://twitter.com/CBSSportsNet/status/1574944050335158273?s=20&t=d8XwPpiia5tTzXQfBvTHIg
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 28, 2022, 02:55:07 PM
I’m beginning to think that Adrian Martinez may actually be a legitimate Heisman Trophy candidate. He got a lot of attention as the four year starter at Nebraska and there seems to be a lot of national interest in his career this year.
https://twitter.com/Outkick/status/1575202432761536512?s=20&t=kpRoUfikmoVIq7ospq3jIw
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: KCFDcat on September 28, 2022, 03:07:40 PM
 :combofan:
I’m beginning to think that Adrian Martinez may actually be a legitimate Heisman Trophy candidate. He got a lot of attention as the four year starter at Nebraska and there seems to be a lot of national interest in his career this year.
https://twitter.com/Outkick/status/1575202432761536512?s=20&t=kpRoUfikmoVIq7ospq3jIw

don't do this to yourself
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Cire on September 28, 2022, 03:07:47 PM
He's a legit good person/kid

Lots of people rooting for him.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Spracne on September 28, 2022, 03:14:15 PM
Can he shoulder these potentially crushing expectations? You beat ONE overrated OU team ...
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 28, 2022, 03:21:46 PM
Can he shoulder these potentially crushing expectations? You beat ONE overrated OU team ...
Of course he can! Idk why you’re being a hater here.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: KCFDcat on September 28, 2022, 03:23:19 PM
He's a legit good person/kid

Lots of people rooting for him.

yes he truly seems like a really great person and a great teammate. I think people/media are happy to see him succeeding and I hope it continues. Even all the Nebraska fans I know are happy for him.

He's not a heisman contender though. He's thrown for 2 TDs and a total of 538 yards in 4 games.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 28, 2022, 03:43:09 PM
He's a legit good person/kid

Lots of people rooting for him.

yes he truly seems like a really great person and a great teammate. I think people/media are happy to see him succeeding and I hope it continues. Even all the Nebraska fans I know are happy for him.

He's not a heisman contender though. He's thrown for 2 TDs and a total of 538 yards in 4 games.
Maybe he gets the  “Ricky Williams lifetime achievement” treatment  :dunno: :dunno:
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Spracne on September 28, 2022, 05:44:31 PM
Can he shoulder these potentially crushing expectations? You beat ONE overrated OU team ...
Of course he can! Idk why you’re being a hater here.

Who, me? I'm Just asking questions, folks.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2022, 06:07:30 PM
I’m more concerned that his reconstructed shoulder won’t be able to pound the stone everyday until January.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: ben ji on September 28, 2022, 07:31:13 PM
I’m more concerned that his reconstructed shoulder won’t be able to pound the stone everyday until January.

I'm pretty sure this is why CK7 waited until the OU game to unleash the battering ram offense. Sure we lost the Tulane game but if that keeps AM9 healthy until the big12 title game it will be worth it.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: KCFDcat on September 28, 2022, 07:34:37 PM
I’m more concerned that his reconstructed shoulder won’t be able to pound the stone everyday until January.

I'm pretty sure this is why CK7 waited until the OU game to unleash the battering ram offense. Sure we lost the Tulane game but if that keeps AM9 healthy until the big12 title game it will be worth it.

Hopefully that performance scares defenses enough and opens up some more passing opportunities. Would hate for him to have to run it 20 times/game the rest of the year. Probably not a recipe for a healthy qb.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on September 28, 2022, 08:30:40 PM
I’m beginning to think that Adrian Martinez may actually be a legitimate Heisman Trophy candidate. He got a lot of attention as the four year starter at Nebraska and there seems to be a lot of national interest in his career this year.
https://twitter.com/Outkick/status/1575202432761536512?s=20&t=kpRoUfikmoVIq7ospq3jIw

bruh
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 28, 2022, 08:38:40 PM
I’m beginning to think that Adrian Martinez may actually be a legitimate Heisman Trophy candidate. He got a lot of attention as the four year starter at Nebraska and there seems to be a lot of national interest in his career this year.
[tweet]1575202432761536512[/tweet]?s=20&t=kpRoUfikmoVIq7ospq3jIw

bruh
lol. C’mon man, I’m on a roll.  You have to admit, it is unusual for a Kansas State quarterback to get this much national pub.  There seems to be a buzz.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on September 28, 2022, 08:43:46 PM
I’m beginning to think that Adrian Martinez may actually be a legitimate Heisman Trophy candidate. He got a lot of attention as the four year starter at Nebraska and there seems to be a lot of national interest in his career this year.
[tweet]1575202432761536512[/tweet]?s=20&t=kpRoUfikmoVIq7ospq3jIw

bruh
lol. C’mon man, I’m on a roll.  You have to admit, it is unusual for a Kansas State quarterback to get this much national pub.  There seems to be a buzz.

I can't speak about outkick but Skylar got the same weekly awards and a lot of attention from national and niche media sites after he beat OU. Honestly, it's a bit of a backhand compliment when the media freaks out so much every time we beat those dirt farmers.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: ben ji on September 28, 2022, 08:46:42 PM
I’m more concerned that his reconstructed shoulder won’t be able to pound the stone everyday until January.

I'm pretty sure this is why CK7 waited until the OU game to unleash the battering ram offense. Sure we lost the Tulane game but if that keeps AM9 healthy until the big12 title game it will be worth it.

Hopefully that performance scares defenses enough and opens up some more passing opportunities. Would hate for him to have to run it 20 times/game the rest of the year. Probably not a recipe for a healthy qb.

Agree that if we run him 20 times a year we will break him. I think we should try to keep him around 10ish carries a game, 6-7 designed QB runs along with 3-4 scrambles...but if things get close and we need a 3rd and 2 conversion we should do what we know works.

Jake Waters averaged 12 carries a game his senior year and he was broken by the end of the season. AM9 is bigger but with his injury issues last season I don't think we should run him more than we ran Jake Waters.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 28, 2022, 08:47:38 PM
I’m beginning to think that Adrian Martinez may actually be a legitimate Heisman Trophy candidate. He got a lot of attention as the four year starter at Nebraska and there seems to be a lot of national interest in his career this year.
[tweet]1575202432761536512[/tweet]?s=20&t=kpRoUfikmoVIq7ospq3jIw

bruh
lol. C’mon man, I’m on a roll.  You have to admit, it is unusual for a Kansas State quarterback to get this much national pub.  There seems to be a buzz.

I can't speak about outkick but Skylar got the same weekly awards and a lot of attention from national and niche media sites after he beat OU. Honestly, it's a bit of a backhand compliment when the media freaks out so much every time we beat those dirt farmers.
All right. You talked me off the ledge. Once again, you are the voice of reason.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Paul Moscow on September 28, 2022, 08:51:21 PM
I’m beginning to think that Adrian Martinez may actually be a legitimate Heisman Trophy candidate. He got a lot of attention as the four year starter at Nebraska and there seems to be a lot of national interest in his career this year.
[tweet]1575202432761536512[/tweet]?s=20&t=kpRoUfikmoVIq7ospq3jIw

bruh
lol. C’mon man, I’m on a roll.  You have to admit, it is unusual for a Kansas State quarterback to get this much national pub.  There seems to be a buzz.

I can't speak about outkick but Skylar got the same weekly awards and a lot of attention from national and niche media sites after he beat OU. Honestly, it's a bit of a backhand compliment when the media freaks out so much every time we beat those dirt farmers.
All right. You talked me off the ledge. Once again, you are the voice of reason.

this is well beyond the attention Skylar got. Adrian Martinez was the #1 trending topic on twitter for 2 hrs sat night. it was probably the most attention k-state football has had since 2012
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 28, 2022, 08:58:30 PM
I’m beginning to think that Adrian Martinez may actually be a legitimate Heisman Trophy candidate. He got a lot of attention as the four year starter at Nebraska and there seems to be a lot of national interest in his career this year.
[tweet]1575202432761536512[/tweet]?s=20&t=kpRoUfikmoVIq7ospq3jIw

bruh
lol. C’mon man, I’m on a roll.  You have to admit, it is unusual for a Kansas State quarterback to get this much national pub.  There seems to be a buzz.

I can't speak about outkick but Skylar got the same weekly awards and a lot of attention from national and niche media sites after he beat OU. Honestly, it's a bit of a backhand compliment when the media freaks out so much every time we beat those dirt farmers.
All right. You talked me off the ledge. Once again, you are the voice of reason.

this is well beyond the attention Skylar got. Adrian Martinez was the #1 trending topic on twitter for 2 hrs sat night. it was probably the most attention k-state football has had since 2012
Dammit, I knew I was right. MIR just comes across as so confident that I get intimidated and back down.  I should’ve known, there’s no way in hell that MIR had actual statistics to back up his claim that Skyler Thompson got the same amount of national publicity.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2022, 09:02:12 PM
Martinez has definitely gotten a ton of hype. Media loves a good comeback story.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: cfbandyman on September 28, 2022, 09:03:59 PM
I'm so happy for him and I hope he keeps trucking, but he's not winning the Heisman.

Klein was definitely the best player out of Manti and Mansel and he finished 3rd, not 2nd, 3rd.

The only way a player for K-State is getting a Heisman is if he's so far and above better than every player out there and all the big schools don't have a guy to put up there.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: muqluk on September 28, 2022, 09:06:25 PM
I'm so happy for him and I hope he keeps trucking, but he's not winning the Heisman.

Klein was definitely the best player out of Manti and Mansel and he finished 3rd, not 2nd, 3rd.

The only way a player for K-State is getting a Heisman is if he's so far and above better than every player out there and all the big schools don't have a guy to put up there.

Since when does being the 'best' have anything to do with it?
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 28, 2022, 09:07:17 PM
Martinez has definitely gotten a ton of hype. Media loves a good comeback story.


Thank you, old chum. This is my point. The Heisman has never been about who is the best statistical football player, it’s about who has the best media promotion. If the national media gets behind the feel good come back story of Adrian Martinez, momentum could build and he could actually win it. I’m not even saying that he would win it I’m saying that he might get invited to the award ceremony in New York just for being one of the top vote getters.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 28, 2022, 09:08:52 PM
I'm so happy for him and I hope he keeps trucking, but he's not winning the Heisman.

Klein was definitely the best player out of Manti and Mansel and he finished 3rd, not 2nd, 3rd.

The only way a player for K-State is getting a Heisman is if he's so far and above better than every player out there and all the big schools don't have a guy to put up there.

Since when does being the 'best' have anything to do with it?
Exactly my point, muqluk, if that is your real name.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: pissclams on September 28, 2022, 09:12:07 PM
Martinez has definitely gotten a ton of hype. Media loves a good comeback story.
actually this story has less to do with martinez and everything to do with the national media hating nebraska and wanting to rub their face in their former qb’s success
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 28, 2022, 09:19:20 PM
Martinez has definitely gotten a ton of hype. Media loves a good comeback story.
actually this story has less to do with martinez and everything to do with the national media hating nebraska and wanting to rub their face in their former qb’s success
Interesting take. Would the national media go so far as to give their Heisman vote to Adrian Martinez just to really stick it to the Cornhuskers?  I don’t know. But if Manti Te’o can win it, anything is possible.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: muqluk on September 28, 2022, 09:51:35 PM
I'm so happy for him and I hope he keeps trucking, but he's not winning the Heisman.

Klein was definitely the best player out of Manti and Mansel and he finished 3rd, not 2nd, 3rd.

The only way a player for K-State is getting a Heisman is if he's so far and above better than every player out there and all the big schools don't have a guy to put up there.

Since when does being the 'best' have anything to do with it?
Exactly my point, muqluk, if that is your real name.
All you are about to see are real events. Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Trim on September 28, 2022, 10:34:08 PM
I’m beginning to think that Adrian Martinez may actually be a legitimate Heisman Trophy candidate. He got a lot of attention as the four year starter at Nebraska and there seems to be a lot of national interest in his career this year.
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lol. C’mon man, I’m on a roll.  You have to admit, it is unusual for a Kansas State quarterback to get this much national pub.  There seems to be a buzz.

I can't speak about outkick but Skylar got the same weekly awards and a lot of attention from national and niche media sites after he beat OU. Honestly, it's a bit of a backhand compliment when the media freaks out so much every time we beat those dirt farmers.
All right. You talked me off the ledge. Once again, you are the voice of reason.

this is well beyond the attention Skylar got. Adrian Martinez was the #1 trending topic on twitter for 2 hrs sat night. it was probably the most attention k-state football has had since 2012

It was destined.

He's the closest thing we've had to ell roberson since ell roberson.

This is the most interesting KSU thing in nearly a decade.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Katpappy on September 28, 2022, 10:42:51 PM
Martinez has definitely gotten a ton of hype. Media loves a good comeback story.
actually this story has less to do with martinez and everything to do with the national media hating nebraska and wanting to rub their face in their former qb’s success
Interesting take. Would the national media go so far as to give their Heisman vote to Adrian Martinez just to really stick it to the Cornhuskers?  I don’t know. But if Manti Te’o can win it, anything is possible.

Are you aware the Heisman is voted on by the past Heisman winners, and not the media.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Pete on September 28, 2022, 10:54:23 PM
Martinez has definitely gotten a ton of hype. Media loves a good comeback story.
actually this story has less to do with martinez and everything to do with the national media hating nebraska and wanting to rub their face in their former qb’s success
Interesting take. Would the national media go so far as to give their Heisman vote to Adrian Martinez just to really stick it to the Cornhuskers?  I don’t know. But if Manti Te’o can win it, anything is possible.

Are you aware the Heisman is voted on by the past Heisman winners, and not the media.
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Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 28, 2022, 10:56:10 PM
Martinez has definitely gotten a ton of hype. Media loves a good comeback story.
actually this story has less to do with martinez and everything to do with the national media hating nebraska and wanting to rub their face in their former qb’s success
Interesting take. Would the national media go so far as to give their Heisman vote to Adrian Martinez just to really stick it to the Cornhuskers?  I don’t know. But if Manti Te’o can win it, anything is possible.


Are you aware that Manti Teo didn’t win it? (I Googled.)
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Pete on September 28, 2022, 10:57:55 PM
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Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 28, 2022, 10:58:37 PM
Martinez has definitely gotten a ton of hype. Media loves a good comeback story.
actually this story has less to do with martinez and everything to do with the national media hating nebraska and wanting to rub their face in their former qb’s success
Interesting take. Would the national media go so far as to give their Heisman vote to Adrian Martinez just to really stick it to the Cornhuskers?  I don’t know. But if Manti Te’o can win it, anything is possible.
Are you aware that Manti Teo didn’t win it? (I Googled.)
Yes, but I like Manti Te’o better than Johnny football. Johnny football didn’t wear a wreath of banana palm leaves around his neck at the award ceremony. I honestly felt sorry for Collin Klein finishing in third place behind those two buffoons. What a mockery of the Heisman Trophy
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Katpappy on September 28, 2022, 11:06:57 PM
Martinez has definitely gotten a ton of hype. Media loves a good comeback story.
actually this story has less to do with martinez and everything to do with the national media hating nebraska and wanting to rub their face in their former qb’s success
Interesting take. Would the national media go so far as to give their Heisman vote to Adrian Martinez just to really stick it to the Cornhuskers?  I don’t know. But if Manti Te’o can win it, anything is possible.

Are you aware the Heisman is voted on by the past Heisman winners, and not the media.
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:dunno:

You forgot these voters.  Heisman Trophy voting consists of 870 media members, 57 living Heisman winners and one vote from the fans.  I wasn't aware media also voted, thx. Pete.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on September 28, 2022, 11:07:40 PM
If 9AMs fake catfish girlfriend dies unexpectedly late in the season then he might have a shot
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Katpappy on September 28, 2022, 11:10:54 PM
If 9AMs fake catfish girlfriend dies unexpectedly late in the season then he might have a shot

Wasn't "she" actually a male?
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: bananaeater on September 29, 2022, 01:25:50 AM
If 9AMs fake catfish girlfriend dies unexpectedly late in the season then he might have a shot

Wasn't "she" actually a male?

He was then but she isn't now.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 29, 2022, 07:11:19 AM
What goes into making a legitimate Heisman trophy candidate?
#1 National brand or championship level team.
#2 Player résumé.
#3 National media hype.

Who were our last “legitimate” Heisman Trophy candidates?

Michael Bishop
championship level team?check
K state was ranked #1 in the nation at one time.
Player résumé? check
coming off 1997 season success with big Fiesta Bowl win
National media hype? playboy magazine preseason #1, Sports Illustrated cover. lost out to Ricky Williams who had all of that plus played on a national brand team with more media hype

Collin Klein
championship level team?check
K state was ranked #1 in the nation at one time. Big 12 Champ
Player résumé? check
coming off 2010 season success
National media hype? Sports Illustrated cover. lost out to Johnnie Football who had all of that plus played on a national brand team with more media hype & Manti Te’o wtf?

Darren Sproles
Received votes

Ell Roberson
Wasn’t even a blip on the radar to the best of my knowledge.

Adrian Martinez
championship level team? In progress. Arlington is still on the table
Player résumé? check
Only active player in the nation with 9,000 passing yards and 2,000 rushing yards in a career. Has a chance to build his résumé for this year on a potential championship level team. Will we see more OU game type performance? I would say the chances are pretty good. The switch seems to have been flipped.

National media hype? I was surprised at the amount of national media attention that Adrian got after the win at Oklahoma. Skyler Thompson beat Oklahoma twice and never got that kind of national pub. Adrian Martinez was the #1 trending topic on twitter for 2 hrs sat night. it was probably the most attention k-state football has had since 2012. Media loves a good comeback story. 9 AM’s 4 years at Nebraska/Big 10 received a lot of scrutiny and national attention from the media. There is the added media narrative of 9 AM’s redemption and being able to rub their former QB’s success in Nebraska’s face.

Like I said, he would be a long shot to win the actual Heisman Trophy, a lot of things would have to fall just right over the next three months. But he does have a legitimate shot at being one of the top vote getters and attending the award ceremony in New York. Just my IMHO
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: OK_Cat on September 29, 2022, 08:21:31 AM
In this thread, HugeCat is learning about the Heisman Trophy for the first time. Fascinating.


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Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: ChiComCat on September 29, 2022, 08:31:53 AM
9AM isn't in the top 20 of heisman contenders right now.  He had been pretty disappointing with the exception of one game.  Outkick isn't about sports so don't take what they do with any seriousness.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on September 29, 2022, 08:48:31 AM
Yeah, I'm still not 100% sold on Adrian, but I really appreciate his efforts on Saturday. Go cats! Just make the Big 12 Championship game this year and I'll be a happy man.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on September 29, 2022, 08:55:19 AM
Congrats on your news source, MAGAcat!

https://twitter.com/Outkick/status/1575474199317151746?s=20&t=DAHU-h8z3GTrhTLaWJqGOA
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 29, 2022, 09:14:39 AM
I have to lol out loud at the rubes in this thread that get butthurt because I posted a Dan Dakich interview of the big Fox sideline cheesecake reporter.  Y’all need to broaden your horizons instead of just listening to KFRM 550 AM, the 5000 watt voice of the plains out of Cloud County, KS, while driving around all day in your turnip trucks.  Hope I didn’t cause a vapor lock in your group think echo chamber
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 29, 2022, 09:27:48 AM
I think we will look back at this as 9AM’s Heisman moment.
https://twitter.com/steveberklund/status/1574766172796510208?s=20&t=Rl2A2e5yqSvoi01aWPcFlw
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: ChiComCat on September 29, 2022, 09:29:03 AM
Listen to what you want but I don't think that Aggrieved White Guy Sports is a barometer of Heisman hype for a guy sitting at +4000 in the sports books.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: chum1 on September 29, 2022, 09:32:51 AM
The university needs to put up an AM 4 Heisman billboard in Times Square. Time to get our crap together.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 29, 2022, 10:00:55 AM
Listen to what you want but I don't think that Aggrieved White Guy Sports is a barometer of Heisman hype for a guy sitting at +4000 in the sports books.
Thanks for your permission. It was one Datapoint used to support the argument that there was a lot of national media hype around Adrian Martinez performance Saturday. You have such ideological tunnel vision that you can’t even recognize it for what it is.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: catastrophe on September 29, 2022, 10:07:28 AM
I think we will look back at this as 9AM’s Heisman moment.
https://twitter.com/steveberklund/status/1574766172796510208?s=20&t=Rl2A2e5yqSvoi01aWPcFlw
I remember when we started that drive I said I’d feel good if we just got two first downs, and this was the second!
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: ChiComCat on September 29, 2022, 10:14:27 AM
I really don't want to make this a politics thread.  If you want to talk about the seriousness of outkick, we can find a spot on the Joe Monty board to discuss Hooter Shania's big announcement. 

Back to 9AM, he's 10 out of 10 in a 10 team league in passing numbers.  He was trending because he had a big game and it's fun to dunk on Nebraska. I would love for him to win the Heisman, but for him to have a chance, K-State would need to sweep the B12 slate.  With this happening as early in the season as it did, and for a smaller school, he will need more performances like this against top competition as well.  On the plus side, I think there is a national interest in dunking on Nebraska.

The 3rd and 16 run was amazing.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 29, 2022, 10:25:31 AM
I think we will look back at this as 9AM’s Heisman moment.
https://twitter.com/steveberklund/status/1574766172796510208?s=20&t=Rl2A2e5yqSvoi01aWPcFlw

If he was truly Heisman worthy, wouldn't he have scored a t.d. on that run?  Just asking.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 29, 2022, 10:39:44 AM
No, sliding inbounds was better than giving them the ball with more than 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 29, 2022, 10:45:42 AM
No, sliding inbounds was better than giving them the ball with more than 2 minutes.

Oh I get it but just think about him cutting it back right between those three and doing a somersault after he dives in for the t.d.  Would have been pretty badass imo and then he's a lock for the trophy. :Woot: (ftp://:Woot:)
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on September 29, 2022, 10:57:25 AM
I have to lol out loud at the rubes in this thread that get butthurt because I posted a Dan Dakich interview of the big Fox sideline cheesecake reporter.  Y’all need to broaden your horizons instead of just listening to KFRM 550 AM, the 5000 watt voice of the plains out of Cloud County, KS, while driving around all day in your turnip trucks.  Hope I didn’t cause a vapor lock in your group think echo chamber
Clay Travis cuts his checks, bud.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on September 29, 2022, 10:58:35 AM
I really don't want to make this a politics thread.  If you want to talk about the seriousness of outkick, we can find a spot on the Joe Monty board to discuss Hooter Shania's big announcement. 

Back to 9AM, he's 10 out of 10 in a 10 team league in passing numbers.  He was trending because he had a big game and it's fun to dunk on Nebraska. I would love for him to win the Heisman, but for him to have a chance, K-State would need to sweep the B12 slate.  With this happening as early in the season as it did, and for a smaller school, he will need more performances like this against top competition as well.  On the plus side, I think there is a national interest in dunking on Nebraska.

The 3rd and 16 run was amazing.
Good call
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 29, 2022, 11:08:03 AM
I have to lol out loud at the rubes in this thread that get butthurt because I posted a Dan Dakich interview of the big Fox sideline cheesecake reporter.  Y’all need to broaden your horizons instead of just listening to KFRM 550 AM, the 5000 watt voice of the plains out of Cloud County, KS, while driving around all day in your turnip trucks.  Hope I didn’t cause a vapor lock in your group think echo chamber
Clay Travis cuts his checks, bud.
lol. I don’t even know what that means, but it sounds funny.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on September 29, 2022, 04:27:29 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1575586596270706690?s=20&t=L87mEr5rK5vnTcRVWDeLjw
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2022, 09:43:24 AM
This conversation got silly very quickly, but I will give HugeCat a little bit of credit. This was from Bill Connelly's weekly column

Feel free to use this on the other board as well, since you also pushed that narrative there as well

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We're attempting an experiment this season: What happens if I award the Heisman every single week of the season and dole out weekly points, F1-style (in this case, 10 points for first place, 9 for second, etc.)? How will this Heisman race play out, and how different will the result be from the actual Heisman voting?

Here is this week's Heisman top 10:

1. Dorian Thompson-Robinson, UCLA (24-for-33 for 315 yards and three TDs, plus 53 rushing yards and one TD vs. Washington)

2. Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama (18 carries for 206 yards and two TDs, plus 20 receiving yards vs. Arkansas)

3. Max Duggan, TCU (23-for-33 for 302 yards and three TDs, plus 116 rushing yards and two TDs vs. Oklahoma)

4. Drake Maye, UNC (26-for-36 for 363 yards and three TDs, plus 73 rushing yards and two TDs vs. Virginia Tech)

5. Adrian Martinez, Kansas State (12-for-19 for 116 yards and one TD, plus 171 rushing yards and three TDs vs. Texas Tech)

6. Clark Phillips III, Utah (three tackles, three interceptions, 1 pick six vs. Oregon State)

7. Miyan Williams, Ohio State (21 carries for 189 yards and five TDs, plus three receiving yards vs. Rutgers)

8. Jadrian Taylor, UTEP (four tackles, three sacks, one forced fumble, one 100-yard fumble return TD vs. Charlotte)

9. Garrett Shrader, Syracuse (17-for-17 for 238 yards and two TDs, plus one rushing TD vs. Wagner)

10. Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State (six tackles, three sacks, one forced fumble vs. Texas Tech)

Any of the top five could have taken the top prize this week. Martinez found his confidence last week against Oklahoma and kept things rolling with a couple of huge runs to keep Texas Tech at bay; this week, Duggan found his confidence against OU, ripping off a long touchdown run and landing a series of haymakers through the air. Meanwhile, Gibbs had fourth-quarter touchdown runs of 72 and 76 yards to put away Arkansas, and Maye's mistake-free early play has put him in elite company.
https://twitter.com/ADavidHaleJoint/status/1576590072245358593
They were all brilliant in Week 5. But we're going to give the nod to DTR. The fifth-year UCLA quarterback produced one of his best-ever performances in helping to take down Washington on Friday night in Pasadena. He was incredible with his arm, and he all but put the game away with a cruel and nasty juke in the third quarter.

Here are six more deserving honorable mentions:

• Dante Cephas, Kent State (13 catches for 246 yards and one TD vs. Ohio)

• Jayden De Laura, Arizona (33-for-46 for 484 yards and six TDs, plus 28 rushing yards vs. Colorado)

• Khalid Duke, Kansas State (eight tackles, three sacks vs. Texas Tech)

• Harrison Mevis, Missouri (5-for-5 on field goals, including 41-, 49-, 52 and 56-yarders, vs. Georgia)

• Monty Montgomery, Louisville (seven tackles, three TFLs, two sacks, two forced fumbles and an interception vs. Boston College)

• Caleb Williams, USC (27-for-37 for 348 yards, three TDs and one INT, plus 44 rushing yards and one TD vs. Arizona State)

Through five weeks, here are how the point totals have shaken out.

Jalon Daniels, Kansas (24 points)
Bryce Young, Alabama (17)
Caleb Williams, USC (16)
Stetson Bennett, Georgia (15)
C.J. Stroud, Ohio State (15)
Adrian Martinez, Kansas State (14)
Drake Maye, North Carolina (14)
Hendon Hooker, Tennessee (10)
Dorian Thompson-Robinson, UCLA (10)
Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama (9)
Spencer Sanders, Oklahoma State (9)
Michael Penix Jr., Washington (9)
Max Duggan, TCU (8)
Derek Parish, Houston (8)

Also receiving points: Will Anderson Jr., Alabama (7); Blake Corum, Michigan (7); Bijan Robinson, Texas (7); Chase Cunningham, MTSU (6); Evan Hull, Northwestern (6); Bo Nix, Oregon (6); Anthony Richardson, Florida (6); Clark Phillips III, Utah (5); Raheim Sanders, Arkansas (5); DJamer Uiagalelei, Clemson (5), Jaydn Ott, Cal (4); Tory Taylor, Iowa (4); Miyan Williams, Ohio State (4); Jordan Addison, USC (3); Braelon Allen, Wisconsin (3); Dillon Gabriel, Oklahoma (3); Garrett Shrader, Syracuse (3); Jadrian Taylor, UTEP (3); Sam Hartman, Wake Forest (2); Daiyan Henley, Washington State (2); Taulia Tagovailoa, Maryland (2); Jacoby Windmon, Michigan State (2); Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State (1); Todd Centeio, JMU (1) and John Rhys Plumlee, UCF (1)

Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2022, 09:44:31 AM
This will likely play better than posting a clip of a basketball analyst from outkick
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: ChiComCat on October 03, 2022, 11:35:21 AM
Two good weeks in a row out of 9AM.  Maybe it's a trend!
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Hurricane Cat on October 10, 2022, 10:23:01 PM
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1579639669863505921
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on October 22, 2022, 08:12:19 PM
I love people that live in a world where nobody ever improves from their first year right out of high school as an 18 year-old kid with a dysfunctional locker room during the Covid season.  Shaking my dang SMDH

Ok but he wasn't really any better last year, and we were told he was the best backup qb in America.
Yes, I agree, Will hasn’t exactly lit it on fire in his first two years.  I think everybody agrees that Avery Johnson is the heir apparent after this year. We are banking on major improvement from Adrian Martinez over last year and we are banking on Avery Johnson coming in and being a D1 power five starting quarterback as a true freshman.  Will Howard needs to be a serviceable back up QB this year and unless everybody can guarantee that Avery Johnson will be who we think he is as a true freshman, it would be nice to have a Will Howard with 4 years in the system in 2023 in case Avery Johnson needs a development year.  It’s going to be very difficult to recruit a Class of 24 quarterback or to get someone out of the portal with Avery Johnson on the roster. I see no purpose in dragging Will Howard. The kid is by all accounts a good locker room guy and was highly thought of out of high school. With Chris Klieman’s track record identifying & developing NFL quarterbacks, I think I would give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.  But by all means, if it makes people feel good bagging on Will Howard every chance they get, knock yourselves out.
What’s this you say, Huge?
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: wetwillie on October 22, 2022, 08:28:44 PM
What’s the deal with Martinez? I’m guessing hamstring.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: konofo on October 22, 2022, 08:39:04 PM
What’s the deal with Martinez? I’m guessing hamstring.
Definitely a leg injury.

kono
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: EMAWzifried on October 22, 2022, 09:34:14 PM
I don't can who's at QB, we have to throw downfield.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on October 22, 2022, 09:35:12 PM
 :confused:
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: EMAWzifried on October 22, 2022, 09:42:05 PM
We have to be bolder than running Deuce on first down.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on October 22, 2022, 09:46:35 PM
We have to be bolder than running Deuce on first down.

I'm assuming you didn't see Rubley's one pass attempt?
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: HugeCat on October 22, 2022, 10:02:13 PM
What’s the deal with Martinez? I’m guessing hamstring.
IMHO, it looked like he took a direct helmet hit to his left hip on that first run of the game.  Tightened up as the game progressed.
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: Hurricane Cat on October 22, 2022, 10:19:54 PM
What’s the deal with Martinez? I’m guessing hamstring.
IMHO, it looked like he took a direct helmet hit to his left hip on that first run of the game.  Tightened up as the game progressed.

How long does it take to fix this?
Title: Re: Adrian Martinez…. American hero and soon to be NFL quarterback
Post by: MakeItRain on October 22, 2022, 10:41:27 PM
What’s the deal with Martinez? I’m guessing hamstring.
IMHO, it looked like he took a direct helmet hit to his left hip on that first run of the game.  Tightened up as the game progressed.

How long does it take to fix this?

He was hurt against Iowa State, they tried to give it a shot, couldn't go.