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Title: Duderometer
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 25, 2022, 10:39:49 PM
I need someone more creative than me to create a Duderometer.  The Duderometer will allow us to properly measure the quality of dudes we currently have, dudes we are prospecting, dudes of future and dudes of past.


To get an idea how this scale is weighted, I’ve provided a list of dudes and a rough placement on the Duderometer scale.

Jacob Pullen — highest figure on the Duderometer
Dom Sutton — 80% of the of the highest Duderometer figure
Nigel Pack — 70% dude but steadily climbing
Will Spradling — does not qualify
Martavious Irving — 65% dude, 64.9% of which came from dance moves in a hallway
Wally Judge — 10% dude
Jason Bennet — 3% dude

I think you all get the point.  I look forward to seeing an official Duderometer in short time.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2022, 10:43:49 PM
Dom ahead of Pack has already screwed up your scale. Please adjust accordingly.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 25, 2022, 11:00:48 PM
Dom ahead of Pack has already screwed up your scale. Please adjust accordingly.

This isn’t a “who puts up more points” meter it’s a dude measurement tool.  Dom was a dude that performed well in his role.

Once Pack learns to play defense I will rank him higher.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: CHONGS on March 25, 2022, 11:06:32 PM
The dude scale is led by Michael Beasley.  Anything else is stupid as crap.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 25, 2022, 11:22:17 PM
In honor of Father Tang and his eternal service to The Lord Our Savior, I am officially asking @=mods?= to change the name of this scale -- and really the name of the basketball board -- to Duderonomy (Pastor Tang's GOAT Bible Book)
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 26, 2022, 12:53:44 AM
Walker had so much dude in him, he exduded it with every breath. JYD years were full of dudistic players, with the exception of Judge and Spradling. Frank's guys probably averaged 20 plus points higher on the dude scale than Oscar's.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: stunted on March 26, 2022, 01:00:03 AM
The dude scale is led by Michael Beasley.  Anything else is stupid as crap.

Pullen wasn’t a dude coming in. He became a one. Beasley was a dude from the very beginning
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: slackcat on March 26, 2022, 08:36:13 AM
The dude scale is led by Michael Beasley.  Anything else is stupid as crap.

Pullen wasn’t a dude coming in
. He became a one. Beasley was a dude from the very beginning

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In his college debut against Sacramento State, Pullen scored 18 points on 7-of-11 shooting and ended up scoring in double figures in eight of his first 10 games. He was a large part of Kansas State's renewed basketball success. As a freshman, he was one of just three players who appeared in all 33 games. Alongside Michael Beasley, he helped upset #2 Kansas with a season-high 20 points, going 10-for-10 from the free throw line.


yes he was
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: chum1 on March 26, 2022, 08:55:02 AM
Many people here are going to think recruiting rankings when they hear talk of "getting dudes." Regardless of what our overexcited bbs fans thought at the time, that was never Pullen.

Beasley and Walker were the only recruits like we'd never had before or since. Ranked #1 and #7 nationally by Rivals. CRAZY! (Crazier that we also had a shot at #4 Mayo for a time.)
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 26, 2022, 09:19:37 AM
Had more than a shot at Mayo if what was said is true. Basically had to tell him no because of his baggage.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: stunted on March 26, 2022, 02:30:37 PM
Many people here are going to think recruiting rankings when they hear talk of "getting dudes." Regardless of what our overexcited bbs fans thought at the time, that was never Pullen.

Beasley and Walker were the only recruits like we'd never had before or since. Ranked #1 and #7 nationally by Rivals. CRAZY! (Crazier that we also had a shot at #4 Mayo for a time.)

Yup, we were excited about Pullen in a diamond in a rough way. But we didn’t expect he’d be one of the best players for us
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2022, 03:24:50 PM
Had more than a shot at Mayo if what was said is true. Basically had to tell him no because of his baggage.

That's incorrect, we absolutely didn't tell him no, it was his choice to go to USC. You're kidding yourself if you think he had more "baggage" than Mike. I wonder what you even mean by using that word.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2022, 03:26:32 PM
denis clemente
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 26, 2022, 04:09:14 PM
Luis Colon, Sometimes dudes just find a way.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 26, 2022, 04:19:43 PM
Makol Mawien, some guys would let any tiny bit of dude-ism slip through their fingers and out of bounds like a beautiful assist setting them up for a bunny.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: jtksu on March 26, 2022, 07:55:10 PM
Jamar was a hell of a dude.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: slackcat on March 26, 2022, 08:06:55 PM
denis clemente

Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: stunted on March 26, 2022, 08:23:24 PM
I’d say only top 70 players should be considered dudes off the bat. Stop the KSU developing diamond in the rough inferiority complex thinking. Tang is our coach. We’re elite now.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 26, 2022, 08:28:49 PM
Makol Mawien, some guys would let any tiny bit of dude-ism slip through their fingers and out of bounds like a beautiful assist setting them up for a bunny.
I know it’s hard for people that never played the sport to comprehend it, but it’s really hard and every blue blood wishes for the same thing. Mawien was a top 150 recruit btw. 
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: CHONGS on March 26, 2022, 08:34:14 PM
I’d say only top 70 players should be considered dudes off the bat. Stop the KSU developing diamond in the rough inferiority complex thinking. Tang is our coach. We’re elite now.
Listen to this man
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: catastrophe on March 26, 2022, 08:39:38 PM
Top 70 seems arbitrary. Dudes can be dudes regardless of rankings, but yeah if they’re not in like the 150 I think you have to call them dude-prospects at best.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2022, 08:47:25 PM
Guys like Jamar, Dom, Hoskins, etc. are dudes. Athletic dudes who can go out and make plays. Dudes are different than highly skilled basketball players. Highly skilled big time prospects can be dudes tho. Like, Dean was awesome, but he wasn’t a dude to me. Pullen, while a guard, was also a dude. Sherron Collins was a dude.

Mark Vitale was an ultimate dude for Baylor. Charles Oakley is a dude.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: joda on March 26, 2022, 08:48:27 PM
While I want plenty of dudes, I also want a good number of dude prospects. Like you want to go to KState cause you know the Tang Gang can turn you into a dude if you have a dude mentality.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2022, 08:51:51 PM
Dudes run the floor. They play tough defense and bang for boards. Guard dudes love to drive and all dudes embrace contact. Most dudes love to dunk, especially putbacks. Not all dudes shoot threes, but some dudes do. Dudes aren’t about finesse. Dudes play with a chip on their shoulder.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: joda on March 26, 2022, 08:56:26 PM
Dudes run the floor. They play tough defense and bang for boards. Guard dudes love to drive and all dudes embrace contact. Most dudes love to dunk, especially putbacks. Not all dudes shoot threes, but some dudes do. Dudes aren’t about finesse. Dudes play with a chip on their shoulder.

So JYC v.2.0?
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: stunted on March 26, 2022, 08:57:48 PM
tang really makes me believe we can skip the prospect part and recruit majority dudes. if rodney perry comes, we're going to be ku level or better at recruiting for a while. hopefully he'll figure out something when maligi and perry move on or their pipeline dries up.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2022, 09:16:49 PM
Dudes run the floor. They play tough defense and bang for boards. Guard dudes love to drive and all dudes embrace contact. Most dudes love to dunk, especially putbacks. Not all dudes shoot threes, but some dudes do. Dudes aren’t about finesse. Dudes play with a chip on their shoulder.

So JYC v.2.0?

I think, yes! But that’s just what dudes are to me.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 26, 2022, 09:41:57 PM
Lotta ugly duckling energy ITT. You guys we are incredibly smoking hot now and everyone wants to bang us fr get used to it
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 26, 2022, 09:47:42 PM
Like I keep having to catch myself, literally every day at least 4 or 5 times someone comes up to me and asks where I went to school and my gut check reaction is to say DUDES U and I have to remind myself to clarify the kstate part since not everyone is familiar with our nickname like if they aren’t really sports fans or w/e
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: stunted on March 26, 2022, 10:05:33 PM
Lotta ugly duckling energy ITT. You guys we are incredibly smoking hot now and everyone wants to bang us fr get used to it

YES
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: Trim on March 26, 2022, 11:41:22 PM
Like I keep having to catch myself, literally every day at least 4 or 5 times someone comes up to me and asks where I went to school and my gut check reaction is to say DUDES U and I have to remind myself to clarify the kstate part since not everyone is familiar with our nickname like if they aren’t really sports fans or w/e

The longer you take to say it, the longer it will be for the whole world of america to know it. Be a local pioneer.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: 8manpick on March 27, 2022, 02:54:49 PM
Nic are you talking about JYCs or DUDES?
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: nicname on March 27, 2022, 03:42:45 PM
Nic are you talking about JYCs or DUDES?

In my mind, dudes and JYC’s are very similar
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 27, 2022, 08:08:08 PM
Nic are you talking about JYCs or DUDES?

In my mind, dudes and JYC’s are very similar

Yep, altho I'm open to other breeds of Dudes, I think all dudes share tough-minded ethic. The Flush wasn't a JYC, but he was 100 percent dude.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: mocat on March 27, 2022, 09:09:02 PM
Dudes are clutch and you can't know if a dude is clutch until the moment arises
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: nicname on March 27, 2022, 09:46:43 PM
Nic are you talking about JYCs or DUDES?

In my mind, dudes and JYC’s are very similar

Yep, altho I'm open to other breeds of Dudes, I think all dudes share tough-minded ethic. The Flush wasn't a JYC, but he was 100 percent dude.

Yes!!
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: ben ji on March 27, 2022, 10:35:33 PM
Nic are you talking about JYCs or DUDES?

In my mind, dudes and JYC’s are very similar

Yep, altho I'm open to other breeds of Dudes, I think all dudes share tough-minded ethic. The Flush wasn't a JYC, but he was 100 percent dude.

I agree. Jamar Samuels was the definition of a JYC and he was also a DUDE. But a DUDE can also be a clutch player who is not a JYC.

IMO a DUDE is a guy who just does what needs to be done to win the fricking day. Whether its throw some elbows in the paint, hurl his body out of bounds to save a loose ball or make a game winning three. The true DUDES just want to win at all costs.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: chum1 on March 27, 2022, 10:36:25 PM
This discussion is kinda embarrassing.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: wetwillie on March 27, 2022, 11:16:05 PM
This discussion is kinda embarrassing.

It’s been a bit of a head scratcher that’s for sure
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 12:40:16 AM
This discussion is kinda embarrassing.

It's pretty rough
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: stunted on March 28, 2022, 07:29:29 AM
Sorry
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2022, 11:48:10 AM
It’s a fine conversation. Quite enjoyable really.
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 11:56:52 AM
This discussion is kinda embarrassing.

why do you hate Tang you rough ridin loser?
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: stunted on March 28, 2022, 02:08:32 PM
i say we keep circle jerking about tang instead :love:
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: Winters on March 28, 2022, 02:14:26 PM
i say we keep circle jerking about tang instead :love:
Yes!
Title: Re: Duderometer
Post by: chum1 on March 28, 2022, 02:16:58 PM
RUNAWAY TANG TRAIN INCOMING!!!
 :runaway: