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Title: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on March 21, 2022, 10:49:19 PM
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Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 21, 2022, 11:13:31 PM
16 to 20, but will change depending on who he brings with him or robs from the portal
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on March 21, 2022, 11:16:27 PM
lets just say pack and nowell come back, because why wouldn't they?
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: slackcat on March 22, 2022, 06:45:24 AM
Infinity+
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 22, 2022, 07:46:44 AM
He’ll get at least 20
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2022, 07:48:29 AM
He’s really only 2 grad transfers away from what should be a 6th place Big 12 team that is on the right side of the bubble.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: 'taterblast on March 22, 2022, 07:54:17 AM
all of them
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 22, 2022, 07:57:52 AM
6 (after the big12 tourney is over)
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 22, 2022, 08:52:12 AM
I think through the tourney we re-learned what we already knew.. the big 12 is salty af at basketball from top to bottom. He'll get over 20 though.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 22, 2022, 09:11:04 AM
I think 30 is a nice round number to shoot for.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on March 22, 2022, 10:47:14 AM
I have very high expectations with the whole transfer thing. I bet he can get a couple Markquis Smiths and some solid depth in the transfer portal. He can give ish and davion a spanking to set them straight.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 22, 2022, 05:16:23 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 23, 2022, 12:13:39 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: KCFDcat on March 23, 2022, 01:45:39 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)

I'd boot all of the post players outside of Massoud.

Obviously hope Pack decides to come back, keep Kasubke, miguel, I guess Ezeagu too. Everyone else has to earn their spot again IMO. Also very low KSUMBB Roster IQ so maybe there are some young players that need to stay.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 23, 2022, 02:06:20 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)

I'd boot all of the post players outside of Massoud.

Obviously hope Pack decides to come back, keep Kasubke, miguel, I guess Ezeagu too. Everyone else has to earn their spot again IMO. Also very low KSUMBB Roster IQ so maybe there are some young players that need to stay.
Wasn't there a point in time when posters thought Logan Landers was a good get? Was Ezeagu hurt? I think I saw him make what appeared to be a post move a couple of times. I think Mark Smith was the best post player on the team last year.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: deputy dawg on March 23, 2022, 02:10:22 PM
How many players, if any, will Tang be able to bring over from Baylor?  Say what you want about the school that saves KU from the rape/sex crimes spotlight, they have been recruiting at a mighty high level the past few years.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2022, 02:12:34 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)

I'd boot all of the post players outside of Massoud.

Obviously hope Pack decides to come back, keep Kasubke, miguel, I guess Ezeagu too. Everyone else has to earn their spot again IMO. Also very low KSUMBB Roster IQ so maybe there are some young players that need to stay.
Wasn't there a point in time when posters thought Logan Landers was a good get? Was Ezeagu hurt? I think I saw him make what appeared to be a post move a couple of times. I think Mark Smith was the best post player on the team last year.

People thought Landers was a good get because he was a 3 star with high major offers, but they bust everywhere every year. He couldn't find the floor last year with the roster issues we had, that's problematic.

EZ wasn't hurt, in fact he was the most healthy big all year. He fell out of favor with oscar because he got lost on defensive rotations, a lot.

If the staff can motivate Bradford to cut weight and work this summer, he's the best option we have.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2022, 02:13:07 PM
How many players, if any, will Tang be able to bring over from Baylor?  Say what you want about the school that saves KU from the rape/sex crimes spotlight, they have been recruiting at a mighty high level the past few years.

I can't see that happening at all.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: catastrophe on March 23, 2022, 03:02:39 PM
Thou shalt not steal :nono:
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: star seed 7 on March 23, 2022, 03:13:14 PM
Also don't covet your conferencemates players or something
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: nicname on March 23, 2022, 03:18:56 PM
I like an 18-22 range, and wild but the O/U at 19.5
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2022, 06:51:57 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)

I'd boot all of the post players outside of Massoud.

Obviously hope Pack decides to come back, keep Kasubke, miguel, I guess Ezeagu too. Everyone else has to earn their spot again IMO. Also very low KSUMBB Roster IQ so maybe there are some young players that need to stay.
Wasn't there a point in time when posters thought Logan Landers was a good get? Was Ezeagu hurt? I think I saw him make what appeared to be a post move a couple of times. I think Mark Smith was the best post player on the team last year.

People thought Landers was a good get because he was a 3 star with high major offers, but they bust everywhere every year. He couldn't find the floor last year with the roster issues we had, that's problematic.

EZ wasn't hurt, in fact he was the most healthy big all year. He fell out of favor with oscar because he got lost on defensive rotations, a lot.

If the staff can motivate Bradford to cut weight and work this summer, he's the best option we have.

I think if your name isn’t pack, massoud, Nowell you probably won’t be in purple for 2022-2023
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Spracne on March 23, 2022, 06:59:45 PM
Just need to get some real dudes.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: catastrophe on March 23, 2022, 07:03:14 PM
You can bet your behind we’ll get some dudes. And if any dudes on our current roster can’t abide the competition, they know where the door is.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: slackcat on March 23, 2022, 07:31:04 PM
He'll bring in all the young dudes.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Spracne on March 23, 2022, 07:50:54 PM
He'll bring in all the young dudes.

carry the news
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 23, 2022, 08:41:14 PM
The dudes will come and the duds will go.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2022, 09:42:21 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)

I'd boot all of the post players outside of Massoud.

Obviously hope Pack decides to come back, keep Kasubke, miguel, I guess Ezeagu too. Everyone else has to earn their spot again IMO. Also very low KSUMBB Roster IQ so maybe there are some young players that need to stay.
Wasn't there a point in time when posters thought Logan Landers was a good get? Was Ezeagu hurt? I think I saw him make what appeared to be a post move a couple of times. I think Mark Smith was the best post player on the team last year.

People thought Landers was a good get because he was a 3 star with high major offers, but they bust everywhere every year. He couldn't find the floor last year with the roster issues we had, that's problematic.

EZ wasn't hurt, in fact he was the most healthy big all year. He fell out of favor with oscar because he got lost on defensive rotations, a lot.

If the staff can motivate Bradford to cut weight and work this summer, he's the best option we have.

I think if your name isn’t pack, massoud, Nowell you probably won’t be in purple for 2022-2023

I'll bet you every dollar I have that we won't see 8 players in the transfer portal and it would be disturbing if we did. He and his staff better damn well be able to develop players, or he won't be here long. They had a good mix of developed players and transfers at Baylor, he understands this.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 23, 2022, 09:52:45 PM
He'll bring in all the young dudes.

carry the news

I for one appreciated this.  Not sure many got that other than SODJ.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: purplenutz on March 23, 2022, 10:02:13 PM
The Tang way is to go 1-0 everyday, at least that’s what he said. I’m good with that.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2022, 10:33:29 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)

I'd boot all of the post players outside of Massoud.

Obviously hope Pack decides to come back, keep Kasubke, miguel, I guess Ezeagu too. Everyone else has to earn their spot again IMO. Also very low KSUMBB Roster IQ so maybe there are some young players that need to stay.
Wasn't there a point in time when posters thought Logan Landers was a good get? Was Ezeagu hurt? I think I saw him make what appeared to be a post move a couple of times. I think Mark Smith was the best post player on the team last year.

People thought Landers was a good get because he was a 3 star with high major offers, but they bust everywhere every year. He couldn't find the floor last year with the roster issues we had, that's problematic.

EZ wasn't hurt, in fact he was the most healthy big all year. He fell out of favor with oscar because he got lost on defensive rotations, a lot.

If the staff can motivate Bradford to cut weight and work this summer, he's the best option we have.

I think if your name isn’t pack, massoud, Nowell you probably won’t be in purple for 2022-2023

I'll bet you every dollar I have that we won't see 8 players in the transfer portal and it would be disturbing if we did. He and his staff better damn well be able to develop players, or he won't be here long. They had a good mix of developed players and transfers at Baylor, he understands this.

Otz kept 2 of 11 and is playing in the S16. He will surely develop players but oscar didn’t leave him any P5 level players to develop really. Maybe he takes a flyer on Bradford since 7 Footers don’t grow on trees.  I’d set the floor at 7 departures.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2022, 10:59:55 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)

I'd boot all of the post players outside of Massoud.

Obviously hope Pack decides to come back, keep Kasubke, miguel, I guess Ezeagu too. Everyone else has to earn their spot again IMO. Also very low KSUMBB Roster IQ so maybe there are some young players that need to stay.
Wasn't there a point in time when posters thought Logan Landers was a good get? Was Ezeagu hurt? I think I saw him make what appeared to be a post move a couple of times. I think Mark Smith was the best post player on the team last year.

People thought Landers was a good get because he was a 3 star with high major offers, but they bust everywhere every year. He couldn't find the floor last year with the roster issues we had, that's problematic.

EZ wasn't hurt, in fact he was the most healthy big all year. He fell out of favor with oscar because he got lost on defensive rotations, a lot.

If the staff can motivate Bradford to cut weight and work this summer, he's the best option we have.

I think if your name isn’t pack, massoud, Nowell you probably won’t be in purple for 2022-2023

I'll bet you every dollar I have that we won't see 8 players in the transfer portal and it would be disturbing if we did. He and his staff better damn well be able to develop players, or he won't be here long. They had a good mix of developed players and transfers at Baylor, he understands this.

Otz kept 2 of 11 and is playing in the S16. He will surely develop players but oscar didn’t leave him any P5 level players to develop really. Maybe he takes a flyer on Bradford since 7 Footers don’t grow on trees.  I’d set the floor at 7 departures.
Yes, but he didn't kick the good players out. 3 of the top rotational players left on their own for better programs, a fourth, who I want for us, Xavier Foster, was kicked off the team for a potential sexual assault, one in which he was later absolved of. Yeah, he essentially turned that complete roster over but he didn't kick all of those guys.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 12:34:50 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)

I'd boot all of the post players outside of Massoud.

Obviously hope Pack decides to come back, keep Kasubke, miguel, I guess Ezeagu too. Everyone else has to earn their spot again IMO. Also very low KSUMBB Roster IQ so maybe there are some young players that need to stay.
Wasn't there a point in time when posters thought Logan Landers was a good get? Was Ezeagu hurt? I think I saw him make what appeared to be a post move a couple of times. I think Mark Smith was the best post player on the team last year.

People thought Landers was a good get because he was a 3 star with high major offers, but they bust everywhere every year. He couldn't find the floor last year with the roster issues we had, that's problematic.

EZ wasn't hurt, in fact he was the most healthy big all year. He fell out of favor with oscar because he got lost on defensive rotations, a lot.

If the staff can motivate Bradford to cut weight and work this summer, he's the best option we have.

I think if your name isn’t pack, massoud, Nowell you probably won’t be in purple for 2022-2023

I'll bet you every dollar I have that we won't see 8 players in the transfer portal and it would be disturbing if we did. He and his staff better damn well be able to develop players, or he won't be here long. They had a good mix of developed players and transfers at Baylor, he understands this.

Otz kept 2 of 11 and is playing in the S16. He will surely develop players but oscar didn’t leave him any P5 level players to develop really. Maybe he takes a flyer on Bradford since 7 Footers don’t grow on trees.  I’d set the floor at 7 departures.

I won this bet before the press conference finished.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: wetwillie on March 24, 2022, 02:57:25 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)

I'd boot all of the post players outside of Massoud.

Obviously hope Pack decides to come back, keep Kasubke, miguel, I guess Ezeagu too. Everyone else has to earn their spot again IMO. Also very low KSUMBB Roster IQ so maybe there are some young players that need to stay.
Wasn't there a point in time when posters thought Logan Landers was a good get? Was Ezeagu hurt? I think I saw him make what appeared to be a post move a couple of times. I think Mark Smith was the best post player on the team last year.

People thought Landers was a good get because he was a 3 star with high major offers, but they bust everywhere every year. He couldn't find the floor last year with the roster issues we had, that's problematic.

EZ wasn't hurt, in fact he was the most healthy big all year. He fell out of favor with oscar because he got lost on defensive rotations, a lot.

If the staff can motivate Bradford to cut weight and work this summer, he's the best option we have.

I think if your name isn’t pack, massoud, Nowell you probably won’t be in purple for 2022-2023

I'll bet you every dollar I have that we won't see 8 players in the transfer portal and it would be disturbing if we did. He and his staff better damn well be able to develop players, or he won't be here long. They had a good mix of developed players and transfers at Baylor, he understands this.

Otz kept 2 of 11 and is playing in the S16. He will surely develop players but oscar didn’t leave him any P5 level players to develop really. Maybe he takes a flyer on Bradford since 7 Footers don’t grow on trees.  I’d set the floor at 7 departures.

I won this bet before the press conference finished.

What did I miss?
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 03:05:28 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)

I'd boot all of the post players outside of Massoud.

Obviously hope Pack decides to come back, keep Kasubke, miguel, I guess Ezeagu too. Everyone else has to earn their spot again IMO. Also very low KSUMBB Roster IQ so maybe there are some young players that need to stay.
Wasn't there a point in time when posters thought Logan Landers was a good get? Was Ezeagu hurt? I think I saw him make what appeared to be a post move a couple of times. I think Mark Smith was the best post player on the team last year.

People thought Landers was a good get because he was a 3 star with high major offers, but they bust everywhere every year. He couldn't find the floor last year with the roster issues we had, that's problematic.

EZ wasn't hurt, in fact he was the most healthy big all year. He fell out of favor with oscar because he got lost on defensive rotations, a lot.

If the staff can motivate Bradford to cut weight and work this summer, he's the best option we have.

I think if your name isn’t pack, massoud, Nowell you probably won’t be in purple for 2022-2023

I'll bet you every dollar I have that we won't see 8 players in the transfer portal and it would be disturbing if we did. He and his staff better damn well be able to develop players, or he won't be here long. They had a good mix of developed players and transfers at Baylor, he understands this.

Otz kept 2 of 11 and is playing in the S16. He will surely develop players but oscar didn’t leave him any P5 level players to develop really. Maybe he takes a flyer on Bradford since 7 Footers don’t grow on trees.  I’d set the floor at 7 departures.

I won this bet before the press conference finished.

What did I miss?

He talked about their low transfer rate at Baylor because they were honest with their players and they "loved them."

Aside from that it seems as if his vibe is, if you want to work there's a place for you. Maybe a good sign for the Max Edwards' of the world, maybe not for Bradford, we shall see. But to me, he didn't sound like a guy who will dump guys on the street but one who absolutely physically run someone off who doesn't put in the time.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: wetwillie on March 24, 2022, 03:59:54 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)

I'd boot all of the post players outside of Massoud.

Obviously hope Pack decides to come back, keep Kasubke, miguel, I guess Ezeagu too. Everyone else has to earn their spot again IMO. Also very low KSUMBB Roster IQ so maybe there are some young players that need to stay.
Wasn't there a point in time when posters thought Logan Landers was a good get? Was Ezeagu hurt? I think I saw him make what appeared to be a post move a couple of times. I think Mark Smith was the best post player on the team last year.

People thought Landers was a good get because he was a 3 star with high major offers, but they bust everywhere every year. He couldn't find the floor last year with the roster issues we had, that's problematic.

EZ wasn't hurt, in fact he was the most healthy big all year. He fell out of favor with oscar because he got lost on defensive rotations, a lot.

If the staff can motivate Bradford to cut weight and work this summer, he's the best option we have.

I think if your name isn’t pack, massoud, Nowell you probably won’t be in purple for 2022-2023

I'll bet you every dollar I have that we won't see 8 players in the transfer portal and it would be disturbing if we did. He and his staff better damn well be able to develop players, or he won't be here long. They had a good mix of developed players and transfers at Baylor, he understands this.

Otz kept 2 of 11 and is playing in the S16. He will surely develop players but oscar didn’t leave him any P5 level players to develop really. Maybe he takes a flyer on Bradford since 7 Footers don’t grow on trees.  I’d set the floor at 7 departures.

I won this bet before the press conference finished.

What did I miss?

He talked about their low transfer rate at Baylor because they were honest with their players and they "loved them."

Aside from that it seems as if his vibe is, if you want to work there's a place for you. Maybe a good sign for the Max Edwards' of the world, maybe not for Bradford, we shall see. But to me, he didn't sound like a guy who will dump guys on the street but one who absolutely physically run someone off who doesn't put in the time.

Who do you see as players that have skill set to play on the caliber of team he wants to build?  I just don’t see anyone other than Pack, Nowell, Ish, and maybe Bradford.  Not sure a hard reset on a coaching change really hurts the message of a low  transfer rate especially when you didn’t recruit them.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on March 24, 2022, 04:11:25 PM
Bradford is going to redeem himself. Just needs to get in shape and hope Tang gets his effort level up.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 04:45:12 PM
Way too early to make any kind of forecast. If he keeps Pack and Nowell then he has to recruit a replacement for Smith and bring in a legit big and depth.

Can he and a new staff salvage Bradford?

If he keeps our current stars and brings in some studs, I'd say 22 wins or more.
:bracketmouse:

Any predictos on players from the current roster who will get Frank'd in the off season? Can you imagine how crushing it would be for a young person to be shown the door by our beautiful new head coach? (sorry if wrong thread)

I'd boot all of the post players outside of Massoud.

Obviously hope Pack decides to come back, keep Kasubke, miguel, I guess Ezeagu too. Everyone else has to earn their spot again IMO. Also very low KSUMBB Roster IQ so maybe there are some young players that need to stay.
Wasn't there a point in time when posters thought Logan Landers was a good get? Was Ezeagu hurt? I think I saw him make what appeared to be a post move a couple of times. I think Mark Smith was the best post player on the team last year.

People thought Landers was a good get because he was a 3 star with high major offers, but they bust everywhere every year. He couldn't find the floor last year with the roster issues we had, that's problematic.

EZ wasn't hurt, in fact he was the most healthy big all year. He fell out of favor with oscar because he got lost on defensive rotations, a lot.

If the staff can motivate Bradford to cut weight and work this summer, he's the best option we have.

I think if your name isn’t pack, massoud, Nowell you probably won’t be in purple for 2022-2023

I'll bet you every dollar I have that we won't see 8 players in the transfer portal and it would be disturbing if we did. He and his staff better damn well be able to develop players, or he won't be here long. They had a good mix of developed players and transfers at Baylor, he understands this.

Otz kept 2 of 11 and is playing in the S16. He will surely develop players but oscar didn’t leave him any P5 level players to develop really. Maybe he takes a flyer on Bradford since 7 Footers don’t grow on trees.  I’d set the floor at 7 departures.

I won this bet before the press conference finished.

What did I miss?

He talked about their low transfer rate at Baylor because they were honest with their players and they "loved them."

Aside from that it seems as if his vibe is, if you want to work there's a place for you. Maybe a good sign for the Max Edwards' of the world, maybe not for Bradford, we shall see. But to me, he didn't sound like a guy who will dump guys on the street but one who absolutely physically run someone off who doesn't put in the time.

Who do you see as players that have skill set to play on the caliber of team he wants to build?  I just don’t see anyone other than Pack, Nowell, Ish, and maybe Bradford.  Not sure a hard reset on a coaching change really hurts the message of a low  transfer rate especially when you didn’t recruit them.

The only regular rotation players you left out are Kasoi, Selton, and Luke. Selton is the best of those three and I do feel like he's a high major player, just maybe not the role he filled at times this last year, although to be fair, when there weren't injuries it got to the point where his role was limited.

I know there will be departures, but I don't think it will be a complete roster white washing. I think Pack, Nowell, Ish, and maybe Bradford will be around to see minutes in the rotation and he'll add 3-5 players that he plans on being in that rotation. The rest of the players appear to be battling for the bottom of the roster. We have a ton of players we haven't seen and I'm not willing to just assume they aren't high major players because they didn't see the court under a fired coaching staff.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2022, 05:16:33 PM
https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1507477815796641793?s=21
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Winters on March 25, 2022, 05:19:54 PM
https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1507477815796641793?s=21
Will be replaced by a DUDE
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2022, 05:34:53 PM
Would think Kasubke, Bradford, EZ and Linguard will be close behind him.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2022, 09:43:47 PM
Would think Kasubke, Bradford, EZ and Linguard will be close behind him.

Yeah, I agree on all of those although I really want Bradford to work out, I think it would be better for him and K-State if he stayed and got back to and beyond what he was as a freshman.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2022, 10:45:57 PM
Would think Kasubke, Bradford, EZ and Linguard will be close behind him.

Yeah, I agree on all of those although I really want Bradford to work out, I think it would be better for him and K-State if he stayed and got back to and beyond what he was as a freshman.
Yeah, the monstars took him this last year. No way he can’t get close to the freshman version of himself with an a healthy offseason.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on May 17, 2022, 04:56:49 PM
Was going to make a new poll but we can just change the Ws to Ls. I think we might win 5 games next year.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2022, 07:56:18 PM
I’ll give him 8. But that’s it.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on May 17, 2022, 08:03:02 PM
I’ll always have that introductory press conference to comfort me through the dark days.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2022, 08:14:05 PM
I really thought he had a few dudes lined up coming in the way he spoke.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on May 18, 2022, 09:50:36 AM
i really can't imagine a worse possible start. this is bad. doesn't seem there was much competition for any of our commitments too. :blindfold: :blindfold: :blindfold:
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2022, 10:13:03 AM
We fired our all time winningest coach for an assistant coach, who can't recruit his way out of a wet paper bag. I'm getting scared. Next year will be an all time low for this program. We honestly deserve this.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Institutional Control on May 18, 2022, 10:24:03 AM
Some of you people need to start writing bigger checks.


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Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Justwin on May 18, 2022, 10:31:41 AM
We fired our all time winningest coach for an assistant coach, who can't recruit his way out of a wet paper bag. I'm getting scared. Next year will be an all time low for this program. We honestly deserve this.

How do you define all-time winningest?
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: ChiComCat on May 18, 2022, 10:32:03 AM
We fired our all time winningest coach for an assistant coach, who can't recruit his way out of a wet paper bag. I'm getting scared. Next year will be an all time low for this program. We honestly deserve this.

The past 3 years have been an all-time low for the program
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on May 18, 2022, 10:41:58 AM
wgaf about the lows when the highs is all that matters.

30% of the time oscar won a big 12 or went to an elite 8.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: ChiComCat on May 18, 2022, 11:04:31 AM
90% of the time he didn't get past the first round
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2022, 11:07:55 AM
The amount of guys on this board who are accepting less than mediocrity on here with coach Tang is sad.  :frown: Just shows how deep that oscar hate goes.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 18, 2022, 11:22:48 AM
Just shows how deep that oscar hate goes.
Yes
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: ChiComCat on May 18, 2022, 12:17:24 PM
The amount of guys on this board who are accepting less than mediocrity on here with coach Tang is sad.  :frown: Just shows how deep that oscar hate goes.

so dumb
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: meow meow on May 18, 2022, 12:18:19 PM
you're right, it does say a lot about oscar
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2022, 12:22:47 PM
You guys better buckle up. This is going to be a long 3 years for a lot of on this blog by @stunted and I. Rent is due! :emawkid:
Title: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: catastrophe on May 18, 2022, 12:38:22 PM
You guys better buckle up. This is going to be a long 3 years for a lot of on this blog by @stunted and I. Rent is due! :emawkid:
Can you imagine starting at a job that hasn’t even come close to its dentist quota for the last three years and then like 3 weeks into your stint they’re like, well things are hardly any better this new guy must suck.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2022, 12:41:38 PM
No, because I landed like 10 docs in my first month 3 years ago when I jumped ship. I backed up my crap! :gocho:
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2022, 12:43:46 PM
Speaking of, Tang should hire me to recruit immediately!
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on May 18, 2022, 12:56:36 PM
the absolute sick thing is i can't see any other coach do better than tang right now. PAY THE PLAYERS
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on May 18, 2022, 12:58:31 PM
we probably lose nijel to miami anyways
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: MakeItRain on May 18, 2022, 01:23:54 PM
The amount of guys on this board who are accepting less than mediocrity on here with coach Tang is sad.  :frown: Just shows how deep that oscar hate goes.

so dumb

 :Take the Bait:
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: ChiComCat on May 18, 2022, 01:25:24 PM
The amount of guys on this board who are accepting less than mediocrity on here with coach Tang is sad.  :frown: Just shows how deep that oscar hate goes.

so dumb

 :Take the Bait:

I only gave it two words for a reason
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2022, 01:32:08 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/cw6EVQRHNPUAAAAC/dollar.gif)
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 18, 2022, 01:43:52 PM
The amount of guys on this board who are accepting less than mediocrity on here with coach Tang is sad.  :frown: Just shows how deep that oscar hate goes.

so dumb

 :Take the Bait:

I only gave it two words for a reason
Same but one word because it didn't deserve two
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 01, 2022, 06:55:04 AM
I’m starting to feel pretty good about this team. Definitely a bubble team.

#1 Markquis Nowell 5’8” guard

#2a Desi Sills 6’2”guard
#2b Camryn Carter 6’3”guard

#3 David N’Guessan, 6’9” forward
or
#3 Tykei Greene 6’4” guard

#4a Nae’Qwan Tomlin 6’8” forward
#4b Ismael Massoud, 6’9” forward

#5a Abayomi Iyiola 6’10” center
#5b Jerrel Colbert 6’10” center

Riding the pine, but definitely not redshirting
#4 Dorian Finister 6’5” guard
#5 Taj Manning 6’8” forward
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 01, 2022, 07:47:49 AM
Just thinking out loud. Athletic, long rebounders and defenders, more scorers than shooters. Seems like most of these guys know how to get to the rim. We don’t have a pure three-point shooter like what’s his name, but these guys all can score off rebounds, put backs, transition buckets etc.

#1 Markquis Nowell 5’8” guard
#2 Desi Sills 6’2” guard
#3 David N’Guessan, 6’9? forward
#4 Nae’Qwan Tomlin 6’8” forward
#5 Abayomi Iyiola 6’10” post

Rotation
#2-3 Tykei Greene 6’4” guard
#2 Camryn Carter 6’3” guard
#4 Ismael Massoud, 6’9” forward
#5 Jerrel Colbert 6’10” post

Bench
#4 Dorian Finister 6’5” guard
#5 Taj Manning 6’8” forward
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 01, 2022, 08:46:52 AM
I expect Nowell to be throwing up 3's from half court while the rest of the team gets in rebounding position for the put-back. 
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 01, 2022, 09:01:38 AM
I expect Nowell to be throwing up 3's from half court while the rest of the team gets in rebounding position for the put-back.
lol(https://i.imgflip.com/5h4qa4.jpg)
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 13, 2022, 05:35:45 PM
Play in game
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1547348142772740098?s=20&t=lfmN7iiCXqH3AGGYrLpx1g
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Spracne on July 13, 2022, 06:11:51 PM
Practicing flopping? And that one dud can't even take out his Bluetooth earpiece for practice? Smdh
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 13, 2022, 06:41:36 PM
Practicing flopping? And that one dud can't even take out his Bluetooth earpiece for practice? Smdh
Sprax is whistling past the graveyard. I know what you’re thinking, Jayhawks are vulnerable this year against an athletic long team. I smell a court storming at the octagon of doom and Mitch Lightfoot getting chicken winged
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 14, 2022, 10:37:37 AM
Practicing flopping? And that one dud can't even take out his Bluetooth earpiece for practice? Smdh
I will bet you a crisp one dollar bill, that K State leads the league in charges taken next year.
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1547605113895735296?s=20&t=Seii5hu_TGnW7gTQ2nMzzQ
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 14, 2022, 10:42:56 AM
Think we should practice shooting, just a thought
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 14, 2022, 10:58:47 AM
lol. To thine own self be true. I’m sure they’re putting up 1,000 shots a day after practice on their own time.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on July 14, 2022, 03:55:38 PM
we should be practicing celebrating at midcourt when we hit a game winning 3 point bucket as time expires
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: catastrophe on July 14, 2022, 03:58:48 PM
If our players can’t each do a backflip on the court by the beginning of the season then wtf are we even doing?
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 15, 2022, 03:25:41 PM
Last Four In
https://twitter.com/TheGreene40/status/1548014748838477825?s=20&t=yN5H9SWSXHjlLSTyNdIfrg
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on July 15, 2022, 04:15:04 PM
Hugecat I will wager with you we won’t be last 4 in.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 15, 2022, 04:39:02 PM
Like my fellow Bracketologist, Joe Lunardi, I will be refining by bracket forecast as the season progresses. I should have a better handle on things the night before the final brackets are announced. Out of curiosity, stunted, how much cabbage were you wanting to wager?
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on July 15, 2022, 10:23:43 PM
Not enough to where I’d root against our cats
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on July 19, 2022, 11:21:05 PM
https://twitter.com/KState_Students/status/1549423629351403520

who tf are these people

8 wins
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on July 20, 2022, 01:14:28 AM
JYC written all over 'em.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Winters on July 20, 2022, 10:08:49 AM
If our players can’t each do a backflip on the court by the beginning of the season then wtf are we even doing?
Instead of court slapping, what if they did a back flip and then got into a defensive stance?  :surprised:
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 27, 2022, 05:02:54 AM
Listening to Curtis Kelly talk about this roster has me pumped. Starts at about the 27:00 minute mark. I may have to update my Bracketology and move the cats into the last four byes
https://twitter.com/BoscoesBoys/status/1552053710074925057?s=20&t=symUwmzKPSc0UMfxUsM0yg
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on July 31, 2022, 12:13:48 AM
with KJ if he's back to his old self, 20 wins
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 31, 2022, 06:37:53 AM

Hugecat I will wager with you we won’t be last 4 in.
with KJ if he's back to his old self, 20 wins
Hugecat -1 stunted – 0
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on July 31, 2022, 09:14:47 AM
That’s 20 wins with a prime, hasn’t lost a step Keyontae Johnson. And 20 is right on the edge.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 31, 2022, 09:18:28 AM
That’s 20 wins with a prime, hasn’t lost a step Keyontae Johnson. And 20 is right on the edge.
Agreed. Props to stunted, not many goEMAW posters are man enough to admit when they were wrong.


Huge W  stunted L
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on July 31, 2022, 10:46:48 AM
will be a sad day when keyontae johnson dies on the basketball court trying to push the cats to the last 4 in, but that's what hugecat is asking for. sad.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 31, 2022, 11:14:26 AM
lol
(https://yoursalesplaybook.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/dont-put-that-evil-on-me.jpg)
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: stunted on July 31, 2022, 11:35:33 AM
hey huge, how about we just cheer for the team we both love? and wish safety for all
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on July 31, 2022, 11:45:28 AM
I’m with you, my dude. Just having some fun. If anything I said came across as mean-spirited, that was not my intent. I don’t take offense when people bust my chops and I like busting other peoples chops. It would be a boring world if we all thought alike
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on August 02, 2022, 07:31:03 PM
hey huge, how about we just cheer for the team we both love? and wish safety for all
https://youtu.be/74I7Nl1mKig (https://youtu.be/74I7Nl1mKig)
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: MakeItRain on August 03, 2022, 12:06:27 AM
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BestLittleGermanshepherd-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on August 04, 2022, 06:21:48 PM
https://twitter.com/Coachreem4ever/status/1555328035401916429?s=20&t=lH5QKrtAZeQJwsukChRPgQ
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on August 04, 2022, 06:23:57 PM
https://youtu.be/27gNaDBfdU0 (https://youtu.be/27gNaDBfdU0)
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on August 04, 2022, 06:55:17 PM
Ish has learned how to work hard.  He thought he was a hard worker last year, but………
You can definitely tell how much more muscle mass Ish has put on. He was soft last year. This could be the biggest factor in year over year improvement for this team.  I was always #TeamBruce, but this is definitely an indictment of the discipline lacking from oscar Weber’s teams. IMHO
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on August 08, 2022, 11:53:27 AM
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/1555606474428227584?s=20&t=JRIYdLnJnV4LQdoX-UqidA
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 08, 2022, 02:01:04 PM
Ish has learned how to work hard.  He thought he was a hard worker last year, but………
You can definitely tell how much more muscle mass Ish has put on. He was soft last year. This could be the biggest factor in year over year improvement for this team.  I was always #TeamBruce, but this is definitely an indictment of the discipline lacking from oscar Weber’s teams. IMHO
What if our new coach turns all the Cats into JunkYard Cats?
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Pete on August 08, 2022, 03:12:26 PM
I only care about conference record.  :don'tcare:
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: wetwillie on August 08, 2022, 03:16:04 PM
What’s gonna do it for you? 7-11 would for me.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: ben ji on August 08, 2022, 09:11:16 PM
What’s gonna do it for you? 7-11 would for me.

That would obviously be an improvement and I would be okay with it but a 9-9 record would be ideal. We are K-State, an elite academic school with a storied tradition in athletics.

By 2024 I expect 10+ conference wins 4/5 years and the accompanying NCAA berth.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on August 21, 2022, 12:16:03 PM
I’m with Ben Ji
https://twitter.com/Cole_Manbeck/status/1561399864100958208?s=20&t=pHsZ9Dq95rnkYNIPSEkeMg
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 21, 2022, 12:32:08 PM
https://twitter.com/coach_maligi/status/1561386980910456836?s=21&t=xqmiJOLyNoAw6ZR0GrtHFw
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: MakeItRain on August 21, 2022, 01:09:50 PM
 :ROFL:
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: pissclams on August 21, 2022, 01:49:53 PM
I’m with Ben Ji
https://twitter.com/Cole_Manbeck/status/1561399864100958208?s=20&t=pHsZ9Dq95rnkYNIPSEkeMg

nowell is going to be all big 12 this season with that length around him, book it
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on August 21, 2022, 01:56:37 PM
If they can catch a pass from Nowell and 2 hand dunk without traveling, Marquis will lead the nation in assists
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: HugeCat on August 21, 2022, 09:02:24 PM
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1561531002211782656?s=20&t=xc1WqgVdlvn3so12M3Xmbw
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: WildcatNation on August 22, 2022, 11:57:37 AM
Even if they finish last in the Big 12 again next year, this team will be infinitely more watchable than the last couple years.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: 8manpick on August 22, 2022, 12:21:17 PM
To answer the OP, 20
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 22, 2022, 12:38:29 PM
Even if they finish last in the Big 12 again next year, this team will be infinitely more watchable than the last couple years.
:thumbs:
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2023, 07:47:29 PM
I’m with Ben Ji
https://twitter.com/Cole_Manbeck/status/1561399864100958208?s=20&t=pHsZ9Dq95rnkYNIPSEkeMg

nowell is going to be all big 12 this season with that length around him, book it

i’m just going to say if you haven’t booked it, it’s not too late
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: wetwillie on January 07, 2023, 07:50:02 PM
Forget all Big 12 he’s going to be a 1st team All American
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2023, 07:52:59 PM
nba mvp
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2023, 10:00:38 PM
We're not really that long.
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: pissclams on January 21, 2023, 06:30:40 PM
We fired our all time winningest coach for an assistant coach, who can't recruit his way out of a wet paper bag. I'm getting scared. Next year will be an all time low for this program. We honestly deserve this.

very strong bbiq  :lol:
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: pissclams on January 21, 2023, 06:31:23 PM
I think 30 is a nice round number to shoot for.
nailed it
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: catastrophe on January 21, 2023, 06:55:57 PM
We fired our all time winningest coach for an assistant coach, who can't recruit his way out of a wet paper bag. I'm getting scared. Next year will be an all time low for this program. We honestly deserve this.

very strong bbiq  :lol:
Man now i know why 420seriouscat69 doesn’t post here anymore. LOL
Title: Re: how many w's for tang's first season?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 21, 2023, 07:47:14 PM
I’m with Ben Ji
https://twitter.com/Cole_Manbeck/status/1561399864100958208?s=20&t=pHsZ9Dq95rnkYNIPSEkeMg

nowell is going to be all big 12 this season with that length around him, book it

Even if they finish last in the Big 12 again next year, this team will be infinitely more watchable than the last couple years.

If they can catch a pass from Nowell and 2 hand dunk without traveling, Marquis will lead the nation in assists

 :driving: