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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: Pete on March 10, 2022, 02:23:50 PM
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I don’t even know who our next coach is, but it’s not that rough ridin' POS oscar Weber, so I love him.
I am going to support our new coach’s rough ridin' face off of his head! I rough ridin' love you new KSU basketball coach and I don’t care who knows it!!!!
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I'm going to take a wait and see. I remember when Oscar was fired from Illinois the thought crossed my mind we might hire the loser. Imagine my delight when it came to pass.
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1502000823508815880
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alright, who is Gene's closest lifetime friend who also coaches or has the desire to coach basketball?
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I LOVE OUR NEW SMALL TIME NO-NAME COACH!
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alright, who is Gene's closest lifetime friend who also coaches or has the desire to coach basketball?
Tim Miles
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LOL that search firm is probably snickering and rolling their eyes right now.
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BUT WE WILL STILL LOVE YOU, SUPER SMALL TIME METAPHORICAL REBOUND COACH!
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My excitement level is less than it would have been a few years ago when we should have hired Brad. But "less" is not "none."
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I 100% fully support our new coach Brad Underwood.
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I 100% fully support our new coach Brad Underwood.
Interesting if true.
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It's good to know that the little dick energy isn't leaving with oscar.
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I STILL LOVE AND SUPPORT OUR NEW COACH WHO MAY NOT HAVE HUGE DICK ENERGY WHATEVER THAT IS
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8 years 80 million for Brad Stevens
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crap, we might be able to get Jay Wright for that much.
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1502000823508815880
Do not like!
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1502000823508815880
Do not like!
We are going hard after Brad, what’s not to like?
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My excitement level is less than it would have been a few years ago when we should have hired Brad. But "less" is not "none."
lmao
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1502000823508815880
Do not like!
Yeah, Klieman has been a disaster, I can understand why one would not be happy about this.
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I'm glad there is a search firm involved, but I just wonder if Gene will use them. No one on earth can convince me that the search firm just coincidentally came up with the name Chris Kleinman and it just happened to be Gene's old buddy from North Dakota. I'm fine with Kleinman, too, but we did we need to pay a big chunk of money to a firm just rubber stamp it? I suppose they probably did some background checks and asked a few questions about coeds and stuff. Oh well.
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I'm glad there is a search firm involved, but I just wonder if Gene will use them. No one on earth can convince me that the search firm just coincidentally came up with the name Chris Kleinman and it just happened to be Gene's old buddy from North Dakota. I'm fine with Kleinman, too, but we did we need to pay a big chunk of money to a firm just rubber stamp it? I suppose they probably did some background checks and asked a few questions about coeds and stuff. Oh well.
CK wasn’t even the first choice (although in hindsight, the initial choice of LittreLL isn’t exactly a shining endorsement either).
Knowing absolutely nothing about the process, my hope is that these search firms are mainly used for diligence like you’re suggesting, and to come up with a list of lesser known up and comers in the event the primary targets fall through.
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Kleiman is fine I guess, but a hint of marketing around helping Gene Taylor find Chris Klieman is very :lol: :lol: Then knowing they got paid to help Gene hire his BFF.
That's going to sit at position 5 of my all time WTF K-State Athletic expenditures, ranked as follows:
1. The Ron Prince Cocktail Napkin
2. The Snyder Reti-A-Fire payments (plural)
3. K-State Athletics paying then sitting Vice President of Institutional Advancement Bob Krause's LLC over $300K dollars to do "extra" work on behalf K-State Athletics
4. The $250K personal loan to Tim Weiser
5. Gene Taylor hiring a search firm and then hiring BFF Chris Klieman
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guys i feel excited about basketball again
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Pete I hope this thread ages well and not poorly!
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I'm glad there is a search firm involved, but I just wonder if Gene will use them. No one on earth can convince me that the search firm just coincidentally came up with the name Chris Kleinman and it just happened to be Gene's old buddy from North Dakota. I'm fine with Kleinman, too, but we did we need to pay a big chunk of money to a firm just rubber stamp it? I suppose they probably did some background checks and asked a few questions about coeds and stuff. Oh well.
CK wasn’t even the first choice (although in hindsight, the initial choice of LittreLL isn’t exactly a shining endorsement either).
Knowing absolutely nothing about the process, my hope is that these search firms are mainly used for diligence like you’re suggesting, and to come up with a list of lesser known up and comers in the event the primary targets fall through.
It was discovered later that the LittreLL rumors were largely planted by his agent. He didn't progress any further than Neil Brown and Mike Norvell.
And yeah, search firms are there mainly for background and administrative needs, not for actually making hires. I've posted this before but here is a podcast with Bob Bowlsby's son who runs a search firm.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/search-firms-with-kyle-bowlsby/id1549029012?i=1000539874273
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Love the enthusiasm Peter, but I think I still don't care. Maybe I'm just trying to keep expectations low.
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I'm glad there is a search firm involved, but I just wonder if Gene will use them. No one on earth can convince me that the search firm just coincidentally came up with the name Chris Kleinman and it just happened to be Gene's old buddy from North Dakota. I'm fine with Kleinman, too, but we did we need to pay a big chunk of money to a firm just rubber stamp it? I suppose they probably did some background checks and asked a few questions about coeds and stuff. Oh well.
CK wasn’t even the first choice (although in hindsight, the initial choice of LittreLL isn’t exactly a shining endorsement either).
Knowing absolutely nothing about the process, my hope is that these search firms are mainly used for diligence like you’re suggesting, and to come up with a list of lesser known up and comers in the event the primary targets fall through.
yeah, it seems like these places get millions to look for old tweets and even then they seem to forget to do that sometimes. Good gig if you can get it I guess. :dunno:
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I'm glad there is a search firm involved, but I just wonder if Gene will use them. No one on earth can convince me that the search firm just coincidentally came up with the name Chris Kleinman and it just happened to be Gene's old buddy from North Dakota. I'm fine with Kleinman, too, but we did we need to pay a big chunk of money to a firm just rubber stamp it? I suppose they probably did some background checks and asked a few questions about coeds and stuff. Oh well.
CK wasn’t even the first choice (although in hindsight, the initial choice of LittreLL isn’t exactly a shining endorsement either).
Knowing absolutely nothing about the process, my hope is that these search firms are mainly used for diligence like you’re suggesting, and to come up with a list of lesser known up and comers in the event the primary targets fall through.
It was discovered later that the LittreLL rumors were largely planted by his agent. He didn't progress any further than Neil Brown and Mike Norvell.
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I thought Blackcats had some insider information that his contract was in the works before terms stalled.
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I still am on board with Klieman. I'm not real optimistic about this hire. Just a gut feel. If Gene can lure Brad, even if Brad eventually failed, I will forever love Gene. Would be a total stud boss move.
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I still am on board with Klieman. I'm not real optimistic about this hire. Just a gut feel. If Gene can lure Brad, even if Brad eventually failed, I will forever love Gene. Would be a total stud boss move.
Very BDE to pull that move off.
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I'm glad there is a search firm involved, but I just wonder if Gene will use them. No one on earth can convince me that the search firm just coincidentally came up with the name Chris Kleinman and it just happened to be Gene's old buddy from North Dakota. I'm fine with Kleinman, too, but we did we need to pay a big chunk of money to a firm just rubber stamp it? I suppose they probably did some background checks and asked a few questions about coeds and stuff. Oh well.
CK wasn’t even the first choice (although in hindsight, the initial choice of LittreLL isn’t exactly a shining endorsement either).
Knowing absolutely nothing about the process, my hope is that these search firms are mainly used for diligence like you’re suggesting, and to come up with a list of lesser known up and comers in the event the primary targets fall through.
It was discovered later that the LittreLL rumors were largely planted by his agent. He didn't progress any further than Neil Brown and Mike Norvell.
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I thought Blackcats had some insider information that his contract was in the works before terms stalled.
Yeah, that was out there, but that was bad info planted by his agent.
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I'm glad there is a search firm involved, but I just wonder if Gene will use them. No one on earth can convince me that the search firm just coincidentally came up with the name Chris Kleinman and it just happened to be Gene's old buddy from North Dakota. I'm fine with Kleinman, too, but we did we need to pay a big chunk of money to a firm just rubber stamp it? I suppose they probably did some background checks and asked a few questions about coeds and stuff. Oh well.
I believe the search firm really isn't to 'find' coaching candidates, as most competent ADs already know who they have interest in. The firm is more to look for any 'skeletons in the closet' and protect the university from that kind of situation (IE Les Miles).
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I always assumed that hiring Gene meant we'd automatically be hiring CK. So, LittreLL news was a huge shock to me. When it "fell through" I wondered if maybe Gene did some big brain head fake in order to give the appearance of an actual search.
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Nah, he did his due diligence and LittreLL got a little bit of attention for the first time and it led to his agent tripping on his dick while trying to make his client seem like a hot name for other jobs.
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Very interesting stuff. Thanks for that.
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Ask yourself this. Has the mustang ever let us down? You and I both know the answer.
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That oscar extension looks pretty awful.
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That oscar extension looks pretty awful.
You can blame that on ol’ soft heart Carl Ice. The Mustang knows when to stick … and to move!
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That oscar extension looks pretty awful.
The extension that allowed him to win another Big 12 championship, or the one that lowered his salary and buyout?
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That oscar extension looks pretty awful.
The extension that allowed him to win another Big 12 championship, or the one that lowered his salary and buyout?
I was under the impression that the second extension you are referring to costed us more money in the end that it would have if we had fired him at that time. Maybe I am calculating wrong? :dunno:
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That oscar extension looks pretty awful.
The extension that allowed him to win another Big 12 championship, or the one that lowered his salary and buyout?
I was under the impression that the second extension you are referring to costed us more money in the end that it would have if we had fired him at that time. Maybe I am calculating wrong? :dunno:
To be clear, is it your contention is that he get fired one year removed from winning the Big 12 and two years removed from going to the elite 8? Is that your not at all insane but perfectly rational opinion?
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I'm glad there is a search firm involved, but I just wonder if Gene will use them. No one on earth can convince me that the search firm just coincidentally came up with the name Chris Kleinman and it just happened to be Gene's old buddy from North Dakota. I'm fine with Kleinman, too, but we did we need to pay a big chunk of money to a firm just rubber stamp it? I suppose they probably did some background checks and asked a few questions about coeds and stuff. Oh well.
The search firm (also friends of Gene who have wined and dined him multiple occasions) was hired to provide cover for Gene hiring his buddy. As you say there is negative infinity chance they independently found CK was best national candidate. And Ck has been fine. Prince was fine. CK's recruiting is shet though and we will see how long he has. I suspect when Gene is ready to take his massive retirement he gets CK a massive Kstate check and they both have a nice chuckle.
But the search firm is well known and established so eventually if they just rubber stamp ham faced farmer's buddies they will lose credibility. I don't think Gene has a basketball bro with credentials as respectable as CK had coming in.
If they hire the NDSU coach then Turnkey should not be paid
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If they hire David Richman I'll leave this board, never post again.
If you're worried about Gene hiring one of "his buddies" Richman isn't the name you should be worried about. Tell whomever your sources are that Gene Taylor had been at Iowa for a full year when Richman was hired. Maybe go back and ask them what basketball coach Gene hired at NDSU then use that name to spread false panic, he's currently a D1 head coach.
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If they hire David Richman I'll leave this board, never post again.
If you're worried about Gene hiring one of "his buddies" Richman isn't the name you should be worried about. Tell whomever your sources are that Gene Taylor had been at Iowa for a full year when Richman was hired. Maybe go back and ask them what basketball coach Gene hired at NDSU then use that name to spread false panic, he's currently a D1 head coach.
We will see. Like I said, Turnkey is legit and they did Gene a solid for football, I doubt they will keep doing it for such the small fish that he is. We can expect a good search with the best candidates that are attainable and they will likely tell him he'd better make them look good this time.
To be clear, I expect that Gene and Kleiman intend to fleece the eff out of KSU as much as they legally can. I don't see the basketball hire going that way, it would draw too much heat on the honey pot.
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Who the F cares if the prominent search firm agreed with Gene on the HC candidate or not? The buck stops with Gene. The only thing that matters after the hire is on field/court performance.
It doesn’t make any sense to me why an AD would think they can use a search firm’s opinion to save their job if they pick crappy coaches. No big money donor or rational fan would accept that excuse.
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Who the F cares if the prominent search firm agreed with Gene on the HC candidate or not? The buck stops with Gene. The only thing that matters after the hire is on field/court performance.
It doesn’t make any sense to me why an AD would think they can use a search firm’s opinion to save their job if they pick crappy coaches. No big money donor or rational fan would accept that excuse.
ADs don't think that because they know a search firm doesn't make decisions, they only provide info.
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Amazing
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Tell whomever your sources are that Gene Taylor had been at Iowa for a full year when Richman was hired.
You sure about that?
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Tell whomever your sources are that Gene Taylor had been at Iowa for a full year when Richman was hired.
You sure about that?
Nope, my timeline was off. Gene promoted him and left a few weeks later. Point is Richman isn't "Gene's buddy" if anyone is, it's Tim Miles.
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i have a good feeling for some reason. it might be because the possibility of brad underwood is setting the bar so high, if we don't get him, gene's got a lot of pressure to get someone really good. hope he doesn't let us down.
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i have a good feeling for some reason. it might be because the possibility of brad underwood is setting the bar so high, if we don't get him, gene's got a lot of pressure to get someone really good. hope he doesn't let us down.
Once Brad has said no 15 times and threatened a restraining order you punch Rick Pitino's digits into your phone.
Boom, done.
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i've already convinced myself that brad is coming and will be incredibly upset if he doesn't.
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As far as I'm concerned, anyone who isn't Brad is just oscar Part 2.
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Our second and third choices are being sought after pretty hard by Missouri and Florida. If Brad says no we may be looking at someone like English or dude from Loyola.
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As far as I'm concerned, anyone who isn't Brad is just oscar Part 2.
Feeling great about this hire whether it’s Brad or not. I like the backup options as well.
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As far as I'm concerned, anyone who isn't Brad is just oscar Part 2.
What if its Will Wade, to spite oscar?
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I would like to think that if we hired Will Wade, oscar would grow a waist-length mullet during his tenure.
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Hiring a coach that was just fired sounds like oscar 2.0 to me!
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Our second and third choices are being sought after pretty hard by Missouri and Florida. If Brad says no we may be looking at someone like English or dude from Loyola.
Still worth going all in Brad
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As far as I'm concerned, anyone who isn't Brad is just oscar Part 2.
Feeling great about this hire whether it’s Brad or not. I like the backup options as well.
Not Andy Kennedy tho. Most of the dudes names who’ve really caught traction.
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I'd rather take a chance with Loyola or English than most of the other nerds.
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I'd rather take a chance with Loyola or English than most of the other nerds.
Agreed. I think Todd Golden may fit into the same mold.
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It will be Tom Crean, and it will be fantastic.
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I've soured a little bit on English as his first season ended up fairly meh, but would still take his upside over Andy Kennedy
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I'd rather take a chance with Loyola or English than most of the other nerds.
I'd put those two in the same bucket as Tang, McCasland, Turner, Linder, Golden, DeVries, Medved, Henderson, et. al.
Basically I'd be happy with any coach who hasn't been fired either for scandal or losing basketball games.
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It will be Tom Crean, and it will be fantastic.
Yea, i'm sure the guy who put up 2 winning conference records in the last 13 seasons and who couldn't figure out how to win games with Anthony Edwards on his roster will do a great job at k-state.
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I'd rather take a chance with Loyola or English than most of the other nerds.
I'd put those two in the same bucket as Tang, McCasland, Turner, Linder, Golden, DeVries, Medved, Henderson, et. al.
Basically I'd be happy with any coach who hasn't been fired either for scandal or losing basketball games.
I think what makes them different are they are much younger and harder sells than most of those on that list. And I'd separate Tang and Turner from the list (and don't know who Henderson is).
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I'd rather take a chance with Loyola or English than most of the other nerds.
I'd put those two in the same bucket as Tang, McCasland, Turner, Linder, Golden, DeVries, Medved, Henderson, et. al.
Basically I'd be happy with any coach who hasn't been fired either for scandal or losing basketball games.
I think what makes them different are they are much younger and harder sells than most of those on that list. And I'd separate Tang and Turner from the list (and don't know who Henderson is).
Eric Henderson is the South Dakota State coach. He's been there for 3 years and won the conference each year, 40-6 confierence record. He was David Richman's assistant, went to a rival school, then proceeded to whip Richman's ass. He played for McNeck at Wayne State. He's younger than McCasland.
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Still no new coach announcement. I am just spending my time writing love notes with a big blank space for the name.
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WELCOME REPORTED POSSIBLE BUT NOT OFFICIAL FINGERS CROSSED NON-oscar WEBER COACH TANG!
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I LOVE OUR COACH
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Possibly the most universally beloved coach in America
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I take back every negative thing I’ve said about Baylor/Drew except for the rape-type stuff! Asking for forgiveness!!
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the way the entire k state fan base has instantly and enthusiastically embraced Tang has got to be completely mind blowing for oscar
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the way the entire k state fan base has instantly and enthusiastically embraced Tang has got to be completely mind blowing for oscar
Can’t be great for the ole ego
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When's the presser and how soon do we start getting those sweet recruiting updates.
And mods, please clean up the pinned coaching speculation threads above nobody was using anyway.
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the way the entire k state fan base has instantly and enthusiastically embraced Tang has got to be completely mind blowing for oscar
Can’t be great for the ole ego
Not at all, I mean I'm very glad to have Tang, and it's not like oscar is a bad person, he's awkward, has weird ass comments and moments but it's days like today that gotta hurt a lot.
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When's the presser and how soon do we start getting those sweet recruiting updates.
And mods, please clean up the pinned coaching speculation threads above nobody was using anyway.
Thursday
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the way the entire k state fan base has instantly and enthusiastically embraced Tang has got to be completely mind blowing for oscar
Can’t be great for the ole ego
Not at all, I mean I'm very glad to have Tang, and it's not like oscar is a bad person, he's awkward, has weird ass comments and moments but it's days like today that gotta hurt a lot.
he can afford a lot of tissues
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You guise!
https://twitter.com/KState_Students/status/1506031796865150985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1506031796865150985%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=
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:emawkid:
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The size of that ring :lol:
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I would run through a wall for that man
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The size of that ring :lol:
New fashion idea - finger watches. Who wants to make it happen with me?
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Oh eff yes
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I would run through a wall for that man
I want to yell right now until I pass out for him & 'cat hoops :excited:
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That 30 second clip made me more excited for kstate basketball than I have been for the last 10 years.
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I literally fist pumped while making sandstorm noises
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He’s going to bring back sandstorm, and make us chant “BLESS THE CATS!” And we will be thankful and humbled for the opportunity to serve and praise our Lord.
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Ok now let’s talk congregations!
oscar was obviously a Lutheran and Bill and Currie were Presbyterians.
Do we think he goes non-denom mega? Southern Baptist?
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He’s going to bring back sandstorm, and make us chant “BLESS THE CATS!” And we will be thankful and humbled for the opportunity to serve and praise our Lord.
AMEN
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Stand Up—-OUT
Take a Knee—- OUT
Kneel before your Lord and Savior——IN!!
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Forgive us Father Tang, for we have sinned and fallen short of your glory!
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Yeah coach, I'm goddamn rough ridin' down with it.
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Ok now let’s talk congregations!
oscar was obviously a Lutheran and Bill and Currie were Presbyterians.
Do we think he goes non-denom mega? Southern Baptist?
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He was an Assembly of God youth pastor
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The size of that ring :lol:
NC bling is for getting recruit's attention.
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Ok now let’s talk congregations!
oscar was obviously a Lutheran and Bill and Currie were Presbyterians.
Do we think he goes non-denom mega? Southern Baptist?
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He was an Assembly of God youth pastor
Klein will probably invite him to join his church, whatever fundie group that is.
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The size of that ring :lol:
First thing I noticed then I got sucked into him being awesome.
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Forgive us Father Tang, for we have sinned and fallen short of your glory!
He will absolve you and KK's sins, especially your sin of wanting that goof Underwood. Listen to sandstorm 10 times and you shall be forgiven.
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Forgive us Father Tang, for we have sinned and fallen short of your glory!
He will absolve you and KK's sins, especially your sin of wanting that goof Underwood. Listen to sandstorm 10 times and you shall be forgiven.
I hope so
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also, I just watched that video and loved it. it'll be fun for a while!
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OMG
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OMG LHC Bill Snyder may have said this 35 years ago
https://twitter.com/kstatembb/status/1506063797605253122?s=21
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Got damn I’m fired up now
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Very good chance Tang makes fans stop “eff KU” chant cause of sportsmanship and I’m ok with that because it is a dumb chant.
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Bless KU! Bless KU!
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Very good chance Tang makes fans stop “eff KU” chant cause of sportsmanship and I’m ok with that because it is a dumb chant.
The only reason students keep doing that chant is because it bugs the crap out of KU. As we’ve already seen, the only thing that bugs them more is the guy who’s going to build the Monster in Manhattan. The chant will be obsolete.
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^he's going to build a Basketball Mecca in Manhattan
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meh KU, meh KU
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Gemstone Salvation Center (of DOOM)
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Bless KU! Bless KU!
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We can bless because we have been blessed with the awesome presence of Coach Tang.
NSIAP:
As for what it will require for K-State to win consistently in the ultra-competitive Big 12 Conference and to be in the running for the league championship each year?
Tang smiles.
"You need some dudes, right?" Tang says. "At the end of the day, it's not rocket science. You have to get some dudes on campus."
https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2022/3/22/sports-extra-tang-thankful-and-ready-to-work.aspx (https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2022/3/22/sports-extra-tang-thankful-and-ready-to-work.aspx)