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Title: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Kat Kid on November 17, 2021, 09:29:58 AM
Ok probably about time to start this.

This article makes me very confident we get another Trump term.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/14/politics/kamala-harris-frustrating-start-vice-president/index.html

These poll numbers are just comically bad at this point.

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-approval-rating-kamala-harris-usa-today-1646811
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 17, 2021, 09:32:32 AM
Brandon Brown 2024!
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2021, 09:33:23 AM
Democrats need to retire Biden and Harris if they want to avoid Trump
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2021, 09:34:54 AM
The trump revenge tour will be disastrous
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2021, 09:37:35 AM
The trump revenge tour will be disastrous

For trump I mean
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Brock Landers on November 17, 2021, 09:41:37 AM
The trump revenge tour will be disastrous

For trump I mean

Oh and the entire United States too.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 17, 2021, 09:44:38 AM
guy will almost be 80.... no chance we see a trump 2.0 imo
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2021, 12:00:00 PM
Yeah, we will end up with some other crap head.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2021, 12:18:05 PM
guy will almost be 80.... no chance we see a trump 2.0 imo

How old will Biden be?
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Brock Landers on November 17, 2021, 12:40:11 PM
guy will almost be 80.... no chance we see a trump 2.0 imo

I dunno man, saying no chance seems pretty short sighted.  As long as he's alive he's going to run and likely win (the R nomination).
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Spracne on November 17, 2021, 12:41:59 PM
guy will almost be 80.... no chance we see a trump 2.0 imo

I dunno man, saying no chance seems pretty short sighted.  As long as he's alive he's going to run and likely win (the R nomination).

This is the (sad) truth. No one else in the party looms nearly as large.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 17, 2021, 01:05:26 PM
guy will almost be 80.... no chance we see a trump 2.0 imo

How old will Biden be?
6 feet
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Cire on November 17, 2021, 01:08:12 PM
It's going to be Desantis right?

Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: chum1 on November 17, 2021, 01:15:53 PM
For the nominee to be anyone else, Trump would have to be like, "here, please take the world's biggest spotlight off of me and have it all to yourself." This is not something I have the capacity to image could happen.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Brock Landers on November 17, 2021, 01:20:37 PM
It's going to be Desantis right?

The only way it's Desantis is if Trump finally drops dead of a fast food induced heart attack.  And even then someone will try to keep Trump's campaign going in the form of a hologram or maybe even that gold statue.  So if Desantis gets past hologram Trump or statue Trump then yes.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2021, 01:24:35 PM
I think Biden would likely beat Trump. I really doubt he would beat anyone else.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: ChiComCat on November 17, 2021, 01:47:32 PM
I think Biden could still beat Trump

Unless a Trump child is running, I don't see Trump strongly endorsing another Republican.  Even if he publicly endorses them at some point, he's still going to take shots at them somewhat regularly.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 17, 2021, 01:47:47 PM
For the nominee to be anyone else, Trump would have to be like, "here, please take the world's biggest spotlight off of me and have it all to yourself." This is not something I have the capacity to image could happen.
Unless Trump dies or there is some huge shift in the national political landscape, the nomination is his if he wants it. No Republican who appears to be opposing Trump in any way, shape or form has a chance to get the nomination. If Trump doesn't run, the primary will be a contest to prove who who is the most slavishly devoted to Trump.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Cire on November 17, 2021, 01:50:05 PM
Would someone like Rubio still be viable?  Like I'm not a Trumper but I'm certainly not a moderate dem?

Or is Rubio done?
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 17, 2021, 02:06:07 PM
Would someone like Rubio still be viable?  Like I'm not a Trumper but I'm certainly not a moderate dem?

Or is Rubio done?
I think he would have won a national election against Biden a year ago. I think he would win a national election today against Biden.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Kat Kid on November 17, 2021, 02:07:55 PM
Biden vs Trump 2.0 with both just limping around yelling and Joe’s brain completely melted would be great.

I think Biden might realize handing it off to Kamala or Pete at this point is just handing Trump a second term.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2021, 02:10:24 PM
Would someone like Rubio still be viable?  Like I'm not a Trumper but I'm certainly not a moderate dem?

Or is Rubio done?

Yeah, even if Trump doesn't run, Rubio can't win a republican primary.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 17, 2021, 02:12:44 PM
Would someone like Rubio still be viable?  Like I'm not a Trumper but I'm certainly not a moderate dem?

Or is Rubio done?

Yeah, even if Trump doesn't run, Rubio can't win a republican primary.
But do you think he could win a national election if he didn't have to act crazy enough to win a Republican primary?

Biden vs Trump 2.0 with both just limping around yelling and Joe’s brain completely melted would be great.

I think Biden might realize handing it off to Kamala or Pete at this point is just handing Trump a second term.
The prospect of Biden vs Trump 2.0 is incredibly depressing.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2021, 02:15:47 PM
Yeah, Rubio would be very competitive in a national election. That doesn't really matter, though.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2021, 02:19:07 PM
I think Michael Flynn is likely going to be Trump's running mate, and if he wants to be president, would be a shoo-in for the nomination if Trump doesn't run.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: LickNeckey on November 17, 2021, 02:24:12 PM
i commit to voting for neither Biden or Trump in 24
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2021, 02:52:10 PM
I want me some Mayor Pete
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: steve dave on November 17, 2021, 03:01:50 PM
Ben Sasse has to wait (hopefully not long) for Trump to die. Then it’s Sasse-time.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2021, 03:11:07 PM
Ben Sasse has to wait (hopefully not long) for Trump to die. Then it’s Sasse-time.

Maybe if no actual republicans decide to run or something.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Cire on November 17, 2021, 08:46:35 PM
There is zero chance Biden or Harris is next pres.

It’s absolutely going to be a pub


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Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: nicname on November 18, 2021, 08:27:44 AM
There is zero chance Biden or Harris is next pres.

It’s absolutely going to be a pub


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This may be the time for a third party to actually do some damage. Just need our next Ross Perot or someone who has friends w/ Perot-type cash.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Kat Kid on November 18, 2021, 08:31:02 AM
I firmly believe if Elon Musk was born in the US he could be president. Unfortunately for his ego, he was born and raised in apartheid South Africa.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: CNS on November 18, 2021, 01:41:02 PM
I think Michael Flynn is likely going to be Trump's running mate, and if he wants to be president, would be a shoo-in for the nomination if Trump doesn't run.

This might be the only way Trump doesn’t win.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2021, 01:45:29 PM
I think that everything will look a lot more normal 3 years from now and that Biden will be looking a whole lot better than he does today.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 18, 2021, 02:01:15 PM
I think that everything will look a lot more normal 3 years from now and that Biden will be looking a whole lot better than he does today.
I sincerely hope that you are right but I am curious as to why you believe things will be looking more normal in 3 years.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2021, 02:08:23 PM
I think that everything will look a lot more normal 3 years from now and that Biden will be looking a whole lot better than he does today.
I sincerely hope that you are right but I am curious as to why you believe things will be looking more normal in 3 years.

We are done with COVID shutdowns, the rest of the world will follow suit, production will increase, and the free market will correct the supply chain issues like it always does.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: CNS on November 18, 2021, 04:09:47 PM
I think that everything will look a lot more normal 3 years from now and that Biden will be looking a whole lot better than he does today.

I think Biden is holding on by his teeth just long enough to get past midterms.  Then the Dems will start hard pressing Mayor Pete.  Either that, or we are going to start seeing a bunch of EO's out of desperation to turn the polls around, because, as is, Joe is mumped.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 18, 2021, 04:13:13 PM
Apparently Rage thinks Biden is Benjamin Button :lol:
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2021, 04:54:05 PM
Apparently Rage thinks Biden is Benjamin Button :lol:

No, just that he's probably going to be running against Donald Trump, and most of the things dragging his approval rating down today won't really still be on the public radar in 2024. Donald will probably do more to lose votes during his campaign than Joe will.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: sys on November 18, 2021, 06:31:17 PM
agree w rage on things being more normal in three years.


the idea that biden isn't going to run again, assuming he's still alive and physically capable of doing so, is crazy.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: MakeItRain on November 19, 2021, 02:11:29 AM
I think Biden might realize handing it off to Kamala or Pete at this point is just handing Trump a second term.

Not that we'll find out but I completely disagree with this. Also I don't think that Trump will be the Republican nominee, if so he'll lose. Biden's win was never about Biden, it was about trump and that hasn't changed. Trump won't be able to garner the same enthusiasm he had in 2020 and frankly the number of trump voters who have died of COVID isn't insignificant.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Kat Kid on November 19, 2021, 11:07:23 PM
I will put some money on trump being the nominee if you give me some odds because he might die.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: michigancat on November 20, 2021, 06:02:15 AM
I think Trump will get nominated and have a good shot at winning because I have my doubts that just being the most centrist anti-Trump will be enough for Joe next time.

If Trump decides to run, I don't see how he doesn't win the nomination. Republicans have to try to be like Trump and unfortunately no one Trumps it up better than Trump.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 22, 2021, 08:52:20 AM
DeSantis will be Trump's biggest obstacle.  The question is whether or not DeSantis will step aside. 
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 22, 2021, 08:58:50 AM
I think Trump will get nominated and have a good shot at winning because I have my doubts that just being the most centrist anti-Trump will be enough for Joe next time.

If Trump decides to run, I don't see how he doesn't win the nomination. Republicans have to try to be like Trump and unfortunately no one Trumps it up better than Trump.
I really hope you are wrong but I think this is all 100% true.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: steve dave on November 22, 2021, 09:13:17 AM
DeSantis will be Trump's biggest obstacle.  The question is whether or not DeSantis will step aside.

trump turning on desantis will be lmao
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 22, 2021, 09:20:47 AM
Also Kamala running will lose it for the Dems.  She should (but won't) step aside for someone like Mayor Pete.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: I_have_purplewood on November 22, 2021, 04:29:08 PM
I will put some money on trump being the nominee if you give me some odds because he might die.

I'd give you at least 7-1 odds of this not happening.  Call off bet if he dies.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 22, 2021, 04:53:08 PM
DeSantis will be Trump's biggest obstacle.  The question is whether or not DeSantis will step aside.

trump turning on desantis will be lmao

yes.  The Desantis pluggers will have to 180 on him.  They didn't think this through...
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Kat Kid on November 22, 2021, 08:31:35 PM
I will put some money on trump being the nominee if you give me some odds because he might die.

I'd give you at least 7-1 odds of this not happening.  Call off bet if he dies.
$100 work?
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: I_have_purplewood on November 22, 2021, 08:40:01 PM
I will put some money on trump being the nominee if you give me some odds because he might die.

I'd give you at least 7-1 odds of this not happening.  Call off bet if he dies.
$100 work?

Yessir.  :ohno: :ohno: (ftp://:ohno: :ohno:)
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: MakeItRain on November 22, 2021, 11:50:51 PM
Also Kamala running will lose it for the Dems.  She should (but won't) step aside for someone like Mayor Pete.

Why the eff would she do that, for him? The Dems picked her for vp and him for the secretary of transportation.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 23, 2021, 09:05:23 AM
Also Kamala running will lose it for the Dems.  She should (but won't) step aside for someone like Mayor Pete.

Why the eff would she do that, for him? The Dems picked her for vp and him for the secretary of transportation.

Like I said above, she won't.  A lot of local Dem leaders think she will get rolled if she gets the Dem nod for President.  She was great to round out the Biden votes.  Unfortunately I still don't think certain members of society are ready to vote for a woman President (sadly).   

Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Katpappy on November 23, 2021, 11:06:49 PM
Also Kamala running will lose it for the Dems.  She should (but won't) step aside for someone like Mayor Pete.

Why the eff would she do that, for him? The Dems picked her for vp and him for the secretary of transportation.

Like I said above, she won't.  A lot of local Dem leaders think she will get rolled if she gets the Dem nod for President.  She was great to round out the Biden votes.  Unfortunately I still don't think certain members of society are ready to vote for a woman President (sadly).   

That's BLACK women President, racist.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: sys on December 04, 2021, 02:13:22 AM
crazy rough rider really is going to run.

https://twitter.com/elliecohanim/status/1466598310655913990
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: chum1 on December 04, 2021, 06:53:12 AM
Quite a physical transformation there.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: michigancat on December 04, 2021, 06:58:17 AM
Quite a physical transformation there.
It's unreal. I didn't think it was him but sure enough

https://twitter.com/elliecohanim/status/1459179107309268995
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: wetwillie on December 04, 2021, 07:00:07 AM
Got out of govt and unfattened himself
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: IPA4Me on December 04, 2021, 08:12:27 AM
Incredible weight loss. Didn't recognize him at all.

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Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: chum1 on December 04, 2021, 09:11:51 AM
I think Pompeo's being smart. Trump could end up not running for some reason. But even if Pompeo bows out after Trump announces or actually loses to Trump in a primary, he's boosting his recognizability as a candidate.

I wonder if any states will decide to forgo a primary and just award their delegates to Trump.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Spracne on December 04, 2021, 12:31:29 PM
crazy rough rider really is going to run.

https://twitter.com/elliecohanim/status/1466598310655913990

Never in a million years would I have guessed that was Pompeo without the lede.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: michigancat on December 04, 2021, 12:47:10 PM
crazy rough rider really is going to run.

https://twitter.com/elliecohanim/status/1466598310655913990

Never in a million years would I have guessed that was Pompeo without the lede.

same, in the video he kinda reminded me of Hugh Laurie in Veep
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Spracne on December 04, 2021, 01:01:31 PM
He's definitely a sharp cookie. Some might say scary smart.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Institutional Control on January 06, 2022, 12:07:30 PM
I don't know if Jamie Raskin ever plans to run for president but I'll be first aboard the Raskin Train when/if it happens.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: wetwillie on January 06, 2022, 12:19:24 PM
Too old
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Institutional Control on January 06, 2022, 01:00:46 PM
Too old

He's 59. A year younger than Obama.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: wetwillie on January 06, 2022, 01:09:09 PM
Too old

He's 59. A year younger than Obama.

If you turn 60 before your first term you are too old
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2022, 02:11:17 PM
If you can’t be an air traffic controller you can’t be president imo
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2022, 02:18:28 PM
If you can’t be an air traffic controller you can’t be president imo

This is true.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Trim on January 08, 2022, 01:12:59 AM
https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article257140177.html
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: Kat Kid on January 08, 2022, 10:08:12 AM
I think people that are not preparing themselves for Trump being president again, need to grapple with this and reflect on who will hold the chain.

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Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: sys on February 21, 2022, 09:46:49 PM
halfway to getting a major party nomination.

https://twitter.com/ava/status/1495929134685765632
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: chum1 on May 03, 2022, 08:45:59 AM
I would gladly give my vote to any non-MAGA pub in exchange for Trump not being the Republican nominee.

https://twitter.com/alaynatreene/status/1521470096937562115
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: passranch on May 03, 2022, 04:36:35 PM
I would gladly give my vote to any non-MAGA pub in exchange for Trump not being the Republican nominee.

https://twitter.com/alaynatreene/status/1521470096937562115

This is absolutely wrong-headed.  No way in hell anyone not named Trump wins the 2024 R primary.  No. Way. In. Hell.

It will be Trump v Biden round 2 and if Trump can cool it on the conspiracy stuff he wins in a walk.  He may even walk with it if he is all Q 24/7/365.
Title: Re: 2024 Presidential Race
Post by: MakeItRain on May 04, 2022, 12:33:54 AM
I would gladly give my vote to any non-MAGA pub in exchange for Trump not being the Republican nominee.

https://twitter.com/alaynatreene/status/1521470096937562115

Register as a republican in your primary, probably something most Ds should strongly consider given you all won't have a primary anyway.