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Title: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: _33 on August 30, 2021, 02:29:32 PM
Players to watch, sleeper players, keys for success, statistics I don't understand, matchups.  This is the thread for Smart Talk on the upcoming KSU football season. 

Obviously I won't be participating much at first because I haven't read your guys' posts in this thread yet but one player I have my eye on is TJ Smith.  I think he'll be my favorite this year.  I like how every time he tackled someone last year it looked like he killed them on the spot.

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Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: bucket on August 30, 2021, 02:36:25 PM
The depth chart had some surprises. Felix Anudike and Landry Weber, in particular.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2021, 05:22:14 PM
what i really DO NOT like is that we used to have a lot of good/great linebackers, and now when i look at our linebackers, i see daniel green and then some guys that were converted from other positions/guys i've not heard of
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: ben ji on August 30, 2021, 05:34:45 PM
what i really DO NOT like is that we used to have a lot of good/great linebackers, and now when i look at our linebackers, i see daniel green and then some guys that were converted from other positions/guys i've not heard of
This is 2021, we play maybe 2 linebackers at a time? It's all about having good dbs now.

Green is good and whatever 2 star 5 heart Jonathan Truman clone we put in there will be serviceable.

Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: ben ji on August 30, 2021, 05:38:48 PM
My hot take is the offense will be much better this year as long as Skylar is healthy and we can work the play action/RPO after serving up a healthy dose of duece and jacardia.

Defense will be what makes our breaks our season.

Final verdict: 9-3 regular season

Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: WildcatNation on August 30, 2021, 06:25:14 PM
My hot take is the offense will be much better this year as long as Skylar is healthy and we can work the play action/RPO after serving up a healthy dose of duece and jacardia.

Defense will be what makes our breaks our season.

Final verdict: 9-3 regular season

It’s looking a lot more like it will be Ervin not Jacardia unfortunately
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: MadCat on August 30, 2021, 08:17:25 PM
what i really DO NOT like is that we used to have a lot of good/great linebackers, and now when i look at our linebackers, i see daniel green and then some guys that were converted from other positions/guys i've not heard of
This is 2021, we play maybe 2 linebackers at a time? It's all about having good dbs now.

Green is good and whatever 2 star 5 heart Jonathan Truman clone we put in there will be serviceable.
I think we typically play 2LBs and a nickel back, but maybe they are thinking we need more size and less speed for Stanford.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: Kat Kid on August 30, 2021, 09:51:56 PM
When I played madden I would always do the 4-2-5 and I liked those “Rover” SS guys. Think we need more TJ Smiths and fewer nice, smart young men with limited athletic abilities.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: MakeItRain on August 31, 2021, 04:56:01 AM
what i really DO NOT like is that we used to have a lot of good/great linebackers, and now when i look at our linebackers, i see daniel green and then some guys that were converted from other positions/guys i've not heard of
This is 2021, we play maybe 2 linebackers at a time? It's all about having good dbs now.

Green is good and whatever 2 star 5 heart Jonathan Truman clone we put in there will be serviceable.
I think we typically play 2LBs and a nickel back, but maybe they are thinking we need more size and less speed for Stanford.

Nah, we'll still play a lot of nickel, they always go with the 4-3 for the depth chart. They did rename one of the LB positions though.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: MakeItRain on August 31, 2021, 04:56:46 AM
My hot take is the offense will be much better this year as long as Skylar is healthy and we can work the play action/RPO after serving up a healthy dose of duece and jacardia.

Defense will be what makes our breaks our season.

Final verdict: 9-3 regular season

It’s looking a lot more like it will be Ervin not Jacardia unfortunately

The coaches really seem to like Ervin, he's been hyped up.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: Cire on August 31, 2021, 06:38:36 AM
I thought Ervin looked the most explosive 2 years ago before he got hurt.

I hope Wright plays.

I think the offense could be pretty good as long as the receivers aren’t dog crap again.


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Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: DQ12 on August 31, 2021, 07:27:31 AM
Best offense since ‘14.

Defense will depend on how good/bad the LBs are.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: Cire on September 01, 2021, 09:22:31 AM
I’m not going to lie. I think we could be really really good.

If we go 500 or win 7 I’m going to be disappointed


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Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 01, 2021, 09:24:00 AM
We need to win 8 for me to feel like this was a good season.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: IPA4Me on September 01, 2021, 09:28:25 AM
Pounding the over on Wins this weekend at the Indiana sportsbook. Don't eff me, Kli!

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Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: Cire on September 01, 2021, 09:41:29 AM
We need to win 8 for me to feel like this was a good season.
Agreed


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Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: _33 on September 01, 2021, 11:38:34 AM
I thought Ervin looked the most explosive 2 years ago before he got hurt.

I hope Wright plays.

I think the offense could be pretty good as long as the receivers aren’t dog crap again.


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I want it to be Deuce and Wright because I like a Thunder and Lightning situation at RB and we really haven't had that since like Rock Cartwright probably.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: _33 on September 01, 2021, 12:57:38 PM
Does _FAN ever post Smart Talk™ on this board anymore, or just for the paying customers now?  Hopefully he's just saving it for the season.  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: _33 on September 01, 2021, 04:16:35 PM
I know last year was a weird covid season but our horrible opening game gives me pause on the Stanford game.  My inclination is to not read too much into anything that happened last year but it was jus so shocking that I can't shake the feeling we're going to come out flat again.  On the flip side we were amazing to start the season in the 2019 non-con.  Which is the real Klieman? 
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 01, 2021, 04:20:37 PM
Will the real Kli Dog please stand up?
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: _33 on September 10, 2021, 09:13:24 AM
How about that 3 man front we saw against Stanford? I haven't gone back and watched the tape just yet but it seemed to work pretty well.  Would anyone who has gone back and watched the tape like to give us some insight into why it worked so well?
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: _33 on September 10, 2021, 09:47:01 AM
Does anyone have the tape I can borrow?
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: 'taterblast on September 13, 2021, 10:20:40 AM
let's talk Nevada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT77pJ4j_6I

their QB (Carson Strong) is good. nfl prospect. has a good arm but is very slow, and has a knee brace on.

game plan: BLITZ THE eff OUT OF HIM
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: kstatefreak42 on September 13, 2021, 10:47:58 AM
What’s up with the lack of Jacardia? I know deuce is “the man” but I just feel a 220lb RB who can run should be getting more looks.. especially since Thompson is out.. 
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 13, 2021, 10:53:40 AM
let's talk Nevada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT77pJ4j_6I

their QB (Carson Strong) is good. nfl prospect. has a good arm but is very slow, and has a knee brace on.

game plan: BLITZ THE eff OUT OF HIM
So a Kroger Brand version of Jason White? Will take!
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: MakeItRain on September 13, 2021, 11:09:13 AM
What’s up with the lack of Jacardia? I know deuce is “the man” but I just feel a 220lb RB who can run should be getting more looks.. especially since Thompson is out..

How many carries do you think he should be getting? He's the third string RB and the two guys in front of him are really good.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: pissclams on September 13, 2021, 11:54:16 AM
the carson strong guy licks his fingers way too much, disgusting
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: Spracne on September 13, 2021, 11:57:36 AM
the carson strong guy licks his fingers way too much, disgusting

Huh? Was there a terror attack or mass-shooting or something in Carson City, Nevada that I missed?
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: _33 on September 13, 2021, 04:24:13 PM
let's talk Nevada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT77pJ4j_6I

their QB (Carson Strong) is good. nfl prospect. has a good arm but is very slow, and has a knee brace on.

game plan: BLITZ THE eff OUT OF HIM

I agree with non-stop blitzing 24/7/365.  The book on Carson Strong has always been that if you sack the ever loving crap out of him non-stop he can't throw as well.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: nicname on September 13, 2021, 05:27:55 PM
let's talk Nevada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT77pJ4j_6I

their QB (Carson Strong) is good. nfl prospect. has a good arm but is very slow, and has a knee brace on.

game plan: BLITZ THE eff OUT OF HIM

I agree with non-stop blitzing 24/7/365.  The book on Carson Strong has always been that if you sack the ever loving crap out of him non-stop he can't throw as well.

Also, their run defense sucks huge balls and taints, so our running game (especially w/ the qb battering ram offense) should to a great job of keeping him off the field and our stud/boss pass rush primed to inflict max damage on molasses foot Strong.

He should be in Geno Smith mode midway thru the third qtr
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: Hurricane Cat on September 13, 2021, 06:23:29 PM
let's talk Nevada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT77pJ4j_6I

their QB (Carson Strong) is good. nfl prospect. has a good arm but is very slow, and has a knee brace on.

game plan: BLITZ THE eff OUT OF HIM



I agree with non-stop blitzing 24/7/365.  The book on Carson Strong has always been that if you sack the ever loving crap out of him non-stop he can't throw as well.

  This is the Smart Talk I came here for!   :ksu:
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: fun muffin on September 22, 2021, 03:14:08 PM
You know what play I miss, that pop pass that Snyder always used to the fullback.  Always gained a million yards. 
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: SleepFighter on September 22, 2021, 03:47:36 PM
I'd chew my arm off for a good Quincy Morgan-esque jailbreak screen.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: nicname on September 22, 2021, 04:10:48 PM
You know what play I miss, that pop pass that Snyder always used to the fullback.  Always gained a million yards.

“…and it’s Dineen! Rumbling down the seam …. and he… will… score! A 59-yard touchdown from Will Howard to the FULLBACK… Jax Dineen!”

Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: ben ji on September 22, 2021, 05:08:02 PM
Sorry, best we can do is a short side option.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: Cardiac Cats on September 22, 2021, 06:33:56 PM
You know what play I miss, that pop pass that Snyder always used to the fullback.  Always gained a million yards.

Unfortunately, opposing coaches started pointing out the ineligible players downfield. Not really effective after that.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: michigancat on September 22, 2021, 06:43:29 PM
Yeah Bob Stoops was a loud complainer

https://tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/ousportsextra/the-pop-pass-that-cost-ou-against-kansas-state-last/article_bedea089-6962-53ee-ad7d-8256ee02bb9b.html

Was such a cool play though
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2021, 06:46:15 PM
the carson strong guy licks his fingers way too much, disgusting

Huh? Was there a terror attack or mass-shooting or something in Carson City, Nevada that I missed?

lol
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: Spracne on September 22, 2021, 06:57:44 PM
the carson strong guy licks his fingers way too much, disgusting

Huh? Was there a terror attack or mass-shooting or something in Carson City, Nevada that I missed?

lol

I'm glad you enjoyed that little chestnut. I often approach my posting with a servant's heart, leaving small works of service for future enjoyment.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: kstatefreak42 on September 22, 2021, 08:13:53 PM
What’s up with the lack of Jacardia? I know deuce is “the man” but I just feel a 220lb RB who can run should be getting more looks.. especially since Thompson is out..

How many carries do you think he should be getting? He's the third string RB and the two guys in front of him are really good.
I guess that is the dilemma. Joe Ervin is also very talented and is deserving of carries as well. Maybe I just like the “thunder & Lightning” type of backfield. It’s good to have a power RB who can get the tough yards. I believe Kleiman did mention something about Jacardia getting a few more looks.
All in all this is a good problem to have.. a talented backfield.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: EMAWzifried on September 22, 2021, 08:52:14 PM
You know what play I miss, that pop pass that Snyder always used to the fullback.  Always gained a million yards.

Is this the fake QB run to the middle and then jump to throw a basketball jump shot pass to a fullback or tight end? Because I was just telling my bro today that we should use that with Howard.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: nicname on September 22, 2021, 08:54:56 PM
let's talk Nevada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT77pJ4j_6I

their QB (Carson Strong) is good. nfl prospect. has a good arm but is very slow, and has a knee brace on.

game plan: BLITZ THE eff OUT OF HIM

I agree with non-stop blitzing 24/7/365.  The book on Carson Strong has always been that if you sack the ever loving crap out of him non-stop he can't throw as well.

Also, their run defense sucks huge balls and taints, so our running game (especially w/ the qb battering ram offense) should to a great job of keeping him off the field and our stud/boss pass rush primed to inflict max damage on molasses foot Strong.

He should be in Geno Smith mode midway thru the third qtr

Big-brain gEs going all Nostradamus as usual.
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2021, 02:54:30 PM
What’s up with the lack of Jacardia? I know deuce is “the man” but I just feel a 220lb RB who can run should be getting more looks.. especially since Thompson is out..

(https://i0.wp.com/gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/chipper-jones-headshake.gif?ssl=1)
Title: Re: K-State Football - Smart Talk
Post by: Cire on October 02, 2021, 04:55:53 PM
Need to upgrade the linebacker position


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