I’d kill a drifter to get Sean Miller. Kelvin Sampson makes more than oscar and can back the money truck up to Houston anytime he wants. The two geriatrics at the top of your list are a hard pass. Never heard of the other guys.
Chris Lowery
Chris Lowery
chris lowery is an artist when it comes to turning programs around. he took an already-built southern illinois program and drove it straight into the ground, it would be interesting to see if he could do the opposite: take an already-cratered program and build it back to a winner!
Rick Stansbury. He has successfully recruited NBA talent to Western Kentucky. Got to be worth an interview.
Thad Matta: retired for health reasons after a very successful stretch at Ohio State. Said to have regained his health and interested in coaching once again.
boy did this board need another oscar replacement thread since the two pinned ones weren’t good enough for “j fake”
Ight betboy did this board need another oscar replacement thread since the two pinned ones weren’t good enough for “j fake”
my eyes are trained to never look at pinned stuff. :frown:
it's crazy that he's only 53 years old.
I’ll take all of jrakes options. TIAYes, I would take them, too! Except maybe Pitino, because I don't like the vibes from the tryst that led to him paying for an abortion. (I am not familiar with the details)
I’ll take all of jrakes options. TIAYes, I would take them, too! Except maybe Pitino, because I don't like the vibes from the tryst that led to him paying for an abortion. (I am not familiar with the details)
Rather than pick from Rake's list, we should can Gene's ass and install Rake.Rake would have hired Klieman fwiw
Just read Wichita State has reached out to Matta. Gene needs to do a HCBS thing with Oscar stat, and go get Matta.
Rather than pick from Rake's list, we should can Gene's ass and install Rake.Rake would have hired Klieman fwiw
Tell me more about Sean Miller’s resume and accomplishments I’m still kind of on the fence.
He may also get a show cause like Dan Mullen did. They were both charged with not promoting an environment of compliance, which I'm guessing the NCAA are now going to give every head coach with assistants who get caught cheating.
I like Klieman a lot!Rather than pick from Rake's list, we should can Gene's ass and install Rake.Rake would have hired Klieman fwiw
klieman got screwed by injuries/covid last year. it was still the best hire of all available options, including the dreadful seth LittreLL, and he will do okay going forward. NDSU didn't become what it was until klieman arrived as coordinator and ultimately head coach, and now with klieman gone, we're starting to see the slow erosion of the program - NDSU pretty much sucks this year.
Tell me more about Sean Miller’s resume and accomplishments I’m still kind of on the fence.
He hasn't won a tournament game since 2017. In 2018 when he had one of the most bought and paid for rosters in college basketball he did win a weak ass Pac 12 but they proceeded to get bounced in the first round. Since Arizona got busted cheating he has finished 8th, and 5th twice in a consistently bad Pac 12 conference. If he isn't at Arizona next year it will be because he hasn't been a good coach since the NCAA cut the Nike faucet off. Can the dude even coach? He had a top 5 class in 2019 and #7 in 2020 and he can't win enough to make the tournament in by far the weakest high major conference.
He may also get a show cause like Dan Mullen did. They were both charged with not promoting an environment of compliance, which I'm guessing the NCAA are now going to give every head coach with assistants who get caught cheating.
We're going to be competing for coaches aren't we...
We're going to be competing for coaches aren't we...
We're going to be competing for coaches aren't we...
I think ISU will probably get Hoiberg to come back.
Fred's buyout at Nebraska is like $10m
who doesn’t? i know that i doFred's buyout at Nebraska is like $10m
Also hates Jamie Pollards guts
Fred's buyout at Nebraska is like $10m
Also hates Jamie Pollards guts
Fred's buyout at Nebraska is like $10m
Also hates Jamie Pollards guts
Has oscar said anything about his former player Meyers Leonard?Why would he?
j rake is great, but this has to be trolling.Are you even vaguely familiar with j rake?
j rake is great, but this has to be trolling.Are you even vaguely familiar with j rake?
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j rake is great, but this has to be trolling.
Greggggg is your guy. Do it.
BREAKING: K-State coach @coachbruceweber makes announcement on rumors of possible retirement. pic.twitter.com/ve9Z9G7gGY
— Rango Jones (@therangojones) March 14, 2021
Can we get 1800 people to give their entire stimi?
Well I like to think we could have landed Pitino
Well I like to think we could have landed Pitino
The good one!Well I like to think we could have landed Pitino
Which one?
The good one!Well I like to think we could have landed Pitino
Which one?
The good one!Well I like to think we could have landed Pitino
Which one?
I’m pretty sure he would leave Iona for KSU still
So we are just waiting for Illinois to finish their season then BOOM, oscar retires and Brad comes home?
How rich is Carl Ice? I know he is wealthy but not like Mark Cuban rich right?
There's currently a rumor out there that oscar was retiring, agreed on extended by out and things similar to Snyder, and it was a done deal. Then Carl Ice came in and told oscar not to retire....
And those same people are also saying Carl will be the one to bring Brad. They act like they all have sources as well.
How rich is Carl Ice? I know he is wealthy but not like Mark Cuban rich right?
There's currently a rumor out there that oscar was retiring, agreed on extended by out and things similar to Snyder, and it was a done deal. Then Carl Ice came in and told oscar not to retire....
And those same people are also saying Carl will be the one to bring Brad. They act like they all have sources as well.
lol, okay
What if the squawks steal Brad?
lmao at any of this. Prove me wrong Carl!Yeah, this is the stupidest things k-state fans have ever flirted with believing.
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lmao at any of this. Prove me wrong Carl!Yeah, this is the stupidest things k-state fans have ever flirted with believing.
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lmao at any of this. Prove me wrong Carl!Yeah, this is the stupidest things k-state fans have ever flirted with believing.
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There's currently a rumor out there that oscar was retiring, agreed on extended by out and things similar to Snyder, and it was a done deal. Then Carl Ice came in and told oscar not to retire....
And those same people are also saying Carl will be the one to bring Brad. They act like they all have sources as well.
lol, okay
I laughed at the first part many times. Then the more I thought about it, it kind of made sense. They want to either pay the money for Brad and deal with the optics issues, or oscar returns without paying him to leave/dealing with the blow back.
(I'm team anyone but oscar if the transfers continue, but if this rumor is true, I kind of like it)
Semi-disgraced Bob Huggins not very similar to Brad "about to go to the final four" Underwood who we completely mumped over a few years back.
There's currently a rumor out there that oscar was retiring, agreed on extended by out and things similar to Snyder, and it was a done deal. Then Carl Ice came in and told oscar not to retire....
And those same people are also saying Carl will be the one to bring Brad. They act like they all have sources as well.
lol, okay
I laughed at the first part many times. Then the more I thought about it, it kind of made sense. They want to either pay the money for Brad and deal with the optics issues, or oscar returns without paying him to leave/dealing with the blow back.
(I'm team anyone but oscar if the transfers continue, but if this rumor is true, I kind of like it)
The silliest part about this incredibly silly scenario is that oscar wanted to retire but a donor convinced him not to. Like how did that work? oscar wanted to retire so badly that he apparently told his boss and donors that he wanted to do so, then he was talked out of retiring without the need for a new contract or anything?
I'm retiring.
No please don't.
Why not?
Because.
Okay, I won't retire
Like this doesn't make sense at all. If he wants to retire I don't know why anyone would talk him out of retirement, or if he wanted to retire why he'd listen.
I actually do believe him when he said he hadn't thought about retiring. I don't think he's capable of stone cold lying. I think if he had he would have fumbled the answer like he did when he was asked about Antonio Gordon.
Semi-disgraced Bob Huggins not very similar to Brad "about to go to the final four" Underwood who we completely mumped over a few years back.
lol, how did we eff over Underwood? When was the last time we hired a basketball head coach without any D1 head coaching experience? I would have to be well before any of us were alive.
Frank MartinSemi-disgraced Bob Huggins not very similar to Brad "about to go to the final four" Underwood who we completely mumped over a few years back.
lol, how did we eff over Underwood? When was the last time we hired a basketball head coach without any D1 head coaching experience? I would have to be well before any of us were alive.
Frank MartinSemi-disgraced Bob Huggins not very similar to Brad "about to go to the final four" Underwood who we completely mumped over a few years back.
lol, how did we eff over Underwood? When was the last time we hired a basketball head coach without any D1 head coaching experience? I would have to be well before any of us were alive.
Semi-disgraced Bob Huggins not very similar to Brad "about to go to the final four" Underwood who we completely mumped over a few years back.
lol, how did we eff over Underwood? When was the last time we hired a basketball head coach without any D1 head coaching experience? I would have to be well before any of us were alive.
Maybe hyperbole, but he deserved an interview.
.@marquetteu announces change in leadership of men’s basketball program. Steve Wojciechowski has been relieved of his duties as head coach. #mubb RELEASE: https://t.co/qutZi0hfLH pic.twitter.com/fvnY75U8v9
— Marquette Basketball (@MarquetteMBB) March 19, 2021
Wasn’t the oscar “retire” tweet/rumor always that we’d can his ass and call it retirement like OBz? I never read it as even a made-up assertion that oscar would consider voluntary retirement.
Wasn’t the oscar “retire” tweet/rumor always that we’d can his ass and call it retirement like OBz? I never read it as even a made-up assertion that oscar would consider voluntary retirement.
DAMN! Someone else found the money, this dude didn't even have a losing record. One losing season out of the last 6 and that was exactly 1 game below .500.@marquetteu announces change in leadership of men’s basketball program. Steve Wojciechowski has been relieved of his duties as head coach. #mubb RELEASE: https://t.co/qutZi0hfLH pic.twitter.com/fvnY75U8v9
— Marquette Basketball (@MarquetteMBB) March 19, 2021
Fitz was on 810 this afternoon and said he had heard alot about oscar "retiring" but who knows. Fitz also mentioned that he has known Brad Underwood since high school, no idea what that connection is about but found it interesting.
Fitz was on 810 this afternoon and said he had heard alot about oscar "retiring" but who knows. Fitz also mentioned that he has known Brad Underwood since high school, no idea what that connection is about but found it interesting.
Brad would have been a Bullpup in theearly to mid-80slate 70s to early 80s Fits prob played him in sports or something.
Fitz was on 810 this afternoon and said he had heard alot about oscar "retiring" but who knows. Fitz also mentioned that he has known Brad Underwood since high school, no idea what that connection is about but found it interesting.
Brad would have been a Bullpup in theearly to mid-80slate 70s to early 80s Fits prob played him in sports or something.
79-82. Where is Fitz from? Back then we played Newton, Winfield, Ark City, Campus, Derby, El Dorado, Hutch.
Must have been outside of BBall then. Brad was a year ahead of me and I was a BBall manager/trainer those years. Looking back we only played one of the Salina schools once, at sub-state, during his junior and senior years. Dont recall he did other sports. Don't think off-season camps were a thing then either.
porter moser (#5 coach on the rake list) is currently coaching circles around brad underwood (unlisted on rake list) as i type this ...Brad's boys can't seem to figure out how to play defense against this scheme. Getting destroyed.
enough with loser ex illinois coaches.
GET PORTER MOSER!
they're getting worked over by a kid who looks like a plumber.
i'm not sure what the rules are, but would k-state have to take on sister jean or how does that work?not worth it if so
Just burn it down. Eff KState basketball.
Just burn it down. Eff KState basketball.
They didn’t hire him
Just burn it down. Eff KState basketball.
They didn’t hire him
even if they did, we don't have an opening and there are always Craig Smiths available
Just burn it down. Eff KState basketball.
They didn’t hire him
even if they did, we don't have an opening and there are always Craig Smiths available
Just burn it down. Eff KState basketball.
They didn’t hire him
even if they did, we don't have an opening and there are always Craig Smiths available
gene should call these coaches, in the following order, and offer them the job:
1. john beilein - beilein is out of coaching, but you know he won't be for long. he made a mistake exiting college for the cavs and now needs a compelling reason to get back into it. k-state can appeal to him: beilein loves to rebuild programs. he's been doing it his whole career - from le moyne to canisius to richmond to west virginia to michigan. this is a perfect opportunity. beyond that, he can bring his son, patrick, aboard and groom him to be the coach-in-waiting. patrick is a rising star who will need to rehab his image after resigning from niagara for "personal reasons."2. rick pitino - this would be bob huggins part II. pitino used iona to rehab his image, and now we've all forgotten about the bad crap he did. would he leave iona for k-state given that he probably prefers to live in NY? maybe. but here's how to sweeten it: offer for his son, richard, to come aboard and become the head-coach-in-waiting. richard has a bright future despite "failing" at minnesota. the conference has been brutally hard and he's been very unlucky between signing one trainwreck recruiting class and then having bad luck with injuries. rick would love the opportunity to coach alongside his son at a school with a legit chance to go all the way.(richard hired by new mexico already)
3. sean miller - great recruiter and program builder. would orchestrate an immediate turnaround. can go toe-to-toe with bill self when it comes to cheating for recruits. very good chance he splits from arizona. this would be a huggins-like landing spot for him - a chance to rebuild his image while other schools will take a pass due to ncaa sanctions, fbi, etc baggage.4. kelvin sampson - he took wazzu, okla, indiana and now houston to the ncaa tourney. capable of immediate turnarounds. willing to cheat. highly likely to say no, as he's 65 and has lived in houston for a decade now extending back to his time w the rockets. but at least reach out to see if he's interested in a return to the big 12.(too good for us now, made FF)5. porter moser - great coach and better person. has proven he can do more with less. k-state is not a catholic school however and moser values religion. he also previously turned down offers from UNLV and st john's. he will say no - but gene should make him say no.
6. kyle smith - big schools will come after him in a few years after he leads wazzu to a top-4 pac-12 finish and ncaa tourney appearance in 2022. k-state has a chance to be early before his stock surges and not have to compete with better schools willing to offer more money.
7. frank martin - i don't love this, as i think frank is an overrated coach. but as far as infusing energy into the program and having the fanbase go batshit crazy, it would be hard to argue against bringing him back. he loved k-state but hated john currie. he would be embraced and his time at south carolina is ending soon.
After runs to the Final Four and Sweet Sixteen, Loyola Chicago head coach Porter Moser has agreed to a deal to become the next head coach of Oklahoma, per sources.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) April 2, 2021
Moser helped put the Ramblers back on the grand stage.
Do you think Gene has even noticed any of these moves in the B12?Nope
Keeping oscar is ridiculous.
Keeping oscar is ridiculous.
More ridiculous now than three weeks ago?
Keeping oscar is ridiculous.
More ridiculous now than three weeks ago?
More nauseating probably a better word
Keeping oscar is ridiculous.
More ridiculous now than three weeks ago?
More nauseating probably a better word
What I'm asking is has your opinion on this shifted since other programs hired coaches?
Keeping oscar is ridiculous.
More ridiculous now than three weeks ago?
More nauseating probably a better word
What I'm asking is has your opinion on this shifted since other programs hired coaches?
It galvanizes my opinion that COVID is a lousy excuse for giving someone a free pass, since the carousel is spinning just as fast if not faster than in previous years. The only leeway I would give is that with so many higher profile jobs opening up it reduces the chances we get Our Guy, whomstever that may be.
You look around the B12 and you see AD's with a plan and commitment to their basketball programs/coaches.
Hell, if Tech is will to pay the next coach close to what they were paying Beard, they could make a really damn good hire and still be in a good place as well.
Then we have Gene/oscar (Maybe TCU is a somewhat similar situation??)
Every time I hear Gene talk, he seems more and more losery to me.
Hell, even he, does Porter Moser really keep you up at night? Doesn't me.
Keeping oscar is ridiculous.
More ridiculous now than three weeks ago?
More nauseating probably a better word
What I'm asking is has your opinion on this shifted since other programs hired coaches?
I worry a little about Porter Moser locking down KC recruiting but yeah. Tech is going to hire an assistant from within or some mid major flavor of the month and hope for the best like our peer schools almost always do.
I worry a little about Porter Moser locking down KC recruiting but yeah. Tech is going to hire an assistant from within or some mid major flavor of the month and hope for the best like our peer schools almost always do.
I worry a little about Porter Moser locking down KC recruiting but yeah. Tech is going to hire an assistant from within or some mid major flavor of the month and hope for the best like our peer schools almost always do.
They were willing to pay Beard close to $30 million over the next 4 years. We weren't willing to pay oscar's $2 million buyout.
While I could see them making a mid-major mistake, I could also seeing them paying Pitino or Underwood.
i'd argue the league has gotten weaker coaching/recruitingwise, so weber should be fine.
Oh, I know. My money is on McCasland from North Texas.
I'm just saying, they've already proven they'll commit 10's of millions, so I could see it happening. I could never see it happening at K-State.
Oh, I know. My money is on McCasland from North Texas.
I'm just saying, they've already proven they'll commit 10's of millions, so I could see it happening. I could never see it happening at K-State.
Come on man, we'd pay for the right coach, just like they did. If Bob Huggins graduated from Marshall University he'd still be the coach here.
In Underwood's case it was probably poor timing rather than lack of resources. Maybe for BV to but I don't think I'd pay him $5 million a year or whatever it might have taken to get him to come here
Brad would not take our job right now even for $5 million a year IMO.In Underwood's case it was probably poor timing rather than lack of resources. Maybe for BV to but I don't think I'd pay him $5 million a year or whatever it might have taken to get him to come here
Haha, yeah. I agree for the most part.
But if money is never the issue, oscar is fired/retired last month and a search committee would’ve already said Brad is the right guy for the job right now.
They’re saying Tech was going to up Beard to $35 million over the next 5 years.If we'd already had him and he'd built a program like Beard, yeah he'd probably stay. But I don't think he'd come for that much money today and I don't think he'd be worth it either. He'd get a nice raise at Illinois out of the deal and wouldn't have to mess with a rebuild.
If we have that money to offer Brad he is here before the sun sets.
Oh, I know. My money is on McCasland from North Texas.
I'm just saying, they've already proven they'll commit 10's of millions, so I could see it happening. I could never see it happening at K-State.
Come on man, we'd pay for the right coach, just like they did. If Bob Huggins graduated from Marshall University he'd still be the coach here.
We hired him for like 700k per year. I'm talking about spending the money to bring a guy in.
Of course I think we'd continue/try to continue to pay for the guy that is already winning here.
Oh, I know. My money is on McCasland from North Texas.
I'm just saying, they've already proven they'll commit 10's of millions, so I could see it happening. I could never see it happening at K-State.
Come on man, we'd pay for the right coach, just like they did. If Bob Huggins graduated from Marshall University he'd still be the coach here.
We hired him for like 700k per year. I'm talking about spending the money to bring a guy in.
Of course I think we'd continue/try to continue to pay for the guy that is already winning here.
So you're skeptical about us doing something that only Texas, Kansas, North Carolina, and Kentucky have proven they're willing to do?
Oh, I know. My money is on McCasland from North Texas.
I'm just saying, they've already proven they'll commit 10's of millions, so I could see it happening. I could never see it happening at K-State.
Come on man, we'd pay for the right coach, just like they did. If Bob Huggins graduated from Marshall University he'd still be the coach here.
We hired him for like 700k per year. I'm talking about spending the money to bring a guy in.
Of course I think we'd continue/try to continue to pay for the guy that is already winning here.
So you're skeptical about us doing something that only Texas, Kansas, North Carolina, and Kentucky have proven they're willing to do?
Lol, naw. My point from the start was that if Tech has $35-40 mill already budgeted over the next 5 years, I could see them making a crazy hire. Ya know, some scorned lover type crap.
Saying they could and we never would.
Oh, I know. My money is on McCasland from North Texas.
I'm just saying, they've already proven they'll commit 10's of millions, so I could see it happening. I could never see it happening at K-State.
Come on man, we'd pay for the right coach, just like they did. If Bob Huggins graduated from Marshall University he'd still be the coach here.
We hired him for like 700k per year. I'm talking about spending the money to bring a guy in.
Of course I think we'd continue/try to continue to pay for the guy that is already winning here.
So you're skeptical about us doing something that only Texas, Kansas, North Carolina, and Kentucky have proven they're willing to do?
Lol, naw. My point from the start was that if Tech has $35-40 mill already budgeted over the next 5 years, I could see them making a crazy hire. Ya know, some scorned lover type crap.
Saying they could and we never would.
What I think you're missing is that kind of money only really works at Tech with Beard (and even then it didn't work). Any coach worth $5 million a year+ already has a much better job.
I think it's pretty likely that if oscar made it to a title game here and was recruiting like Beard had and didn't have consecutive last place seasons we'd be in the same ballpark as Tech (but probably lower because oscar is too old to get many looks).
gene should call these coaches, in the following order, and offer them the job:
1. john beilein - beilein is out of coaching, but you know he won't be for long. he made a mistake exiting college for the cavs and now needs a compelling reason to get back into it. k-state can appeal to him: beilein loves to rebuild programs. he's been doing it his whole career - from le moyne to canisius to richmond to west virginia to michigan. this is a perfect opportunity. beyond that, he can bring his son, patrick, aboard and groom him to be the coach-in-waiting. patrick is a rising star who will need to rehab his image after resigning from niagara for "personal reasons."2. rick pitino - this would be bob huggins part II. pitino used iona to rehab his image, and now we've all forgotten about the bad crap he did. would he leave iona for k-state given that he probably prefers to live in NY? maybe. but here's how to sweeten it: offer for his son, richard, to come aboard and become the head-coach-in-waiting. richard has a bright future despite "failing" at minnesota. the conference has been brutally hard and he's been very unlucky between signing one trainwreck recruiting class and then having bad luck with injuries. rick would love the opportunity to coach alongside his son at a school with a legit chance to go all the way.(richard hired by new mexico already)
3. sean miller - great recruiter and program builder. would orchestrate an immediate turnaround. can go toe-to-toe with bill self when it comes to cheating for recruits. very good chance he splits from arizona. this would be a huggins-like landing spot for him - a chance to rebuild his image while other schools will take a pass due to ncaa sanctions, fbi, etc baggage.4. kelvin sampson - he took wazzu, okla, indiana and now houston to the ncaa tourney. capable of immediate turnarounds. willing to cheat. highly likely to say no, as he's 65 and has lived in houston for a decade now extending back to his time w the rockets. but at least reach out to see if he's interested in a return to the big 12.(too good for us now, made FF)5. porter moser - great coach and better person. has proven he can do more with less. k-state is not a catholic school however and moser values religion. he also previously turned down offers from UNLV and st john's. he will say no - but gene should make him say no.
6. kyle smith - big schools will come after him in a few years after he leads wazzu to a top-4 pac-12 finish and ncaa tourney appearance in 2022. k-state has a chance to be early before his stock surges and not have to compete with better schools willing to offer more money.
7. frank martin - i don't love this, as i think frank is an overrated coach. but as far as infusing energy into the program and having the fanbase go batshit crazy, it would be hard to argue against bringing him back. he loved k-state but hated john currie. he would be embraced and his time at south carolina is ending soon.?s=21Breaking: Men’s basketball coach Sean Miller is out at Arizona, sources told @jeffborzello. pic.twitter.com/JU0vY6bJeV
— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) April 7, 2021
Time for Mean Gene to make a move. This is Tim Weiser/Huggins all over again.
three elite eights, five sweet 16s, five conference titles, three conference tourney titles, lottery picks, good recruiting despite a conference that nosedived the last 6-8 years, cheating, scandal, winning, fun, Sean Miller, the difference is experience, experience the difference.
every coach is worse at on-court coaching when their recruiting gets worse
OU and UT are the big winners of the carousel so far, IMO. Hoping for something interesting from Arizona here.
Would take Miller for KSU but is the NCAA done with him?
Well we hired Weber who was probably much worse in the same timespan at Illinois.
I can't get over him sweating his ass off to the point where his shirt was see through. That was gross, do not want.
I can't get over him sweating his ass off to the point where his shirt was see through. That was gross, do not want.
Yes. The only thing desirable about him is that he lost one of the best tournament games o.a.t. to EMAW.
I can't get over him sweating his ass off to the point where his shirt was see through. That was gross, do not want.
Yes. The only thing desirable about him is that he lost one of the best tournament games o.a.t. to EMAW. Even though he's made two elite 8s he's kind of a bum. The list of coaches with 2 of those aren't elite, guys like Ernie Kent, Jim O'Brien, Bill Guthridge (rip), and Mike Montgomery.
I can't get over him sweating his ass off to the point where his shirt was see through. That was gross, do not want.
Yes. The only thing desirable about him is that he lost one of the best tournament games o.a.t. to EMAW.
That was Chris Mack!
I can't get over him sweating his ass off to the point where his shirt was see through. That was gross, do not want.
Yes. The only thing desirable about him is that he lost one of the best tournament games o.a.t. to EMAW. Even though he's made two elite 8s he's kind of a bum. The list of coaches with 2 of those aren't elite, guys like Ernie Kent, Jim O'Brien, Bill Guthridge (rip), and Mike Montgomery.
i didnt even remember jim obrien coached in college...thought he was only nba
Different Jim O'Brien but there was a guy with that name who coached the CelticsI can't get over him sweating his ass off to the point where his shirt was see through. That was gross, do not want.
Yes. The only thing desirable about him is that he lost one of the best tournament games o.a.t. to EMAW. Even though he's made two elite 8s he's kind of a bum. The list of coaches with 2 of those aren't elite, guys like Ernie Kent, Jim O'Brien, Bill Guthridge (rip), and Mike Montgomery.
i didnt even remember jim obrien coached in college...thought he was only nba
Boston College and Ohio State. I don't remember him in the NBA. Did he coach the celtics?
Different Jim O'Brien but there was a guy with that name who coached the CelticsI can't get over him sweating his ass off to the point where his shirt was see through. That was gross, do not want.
Yes. The only thing desirable about him is that he lost one of the best tournament games o.a.t. to EMAW. Even though he's made two elite 8s he's kind of a bum. The list of coaches with 2 of those aren't elite, guys like Ernie Kent, Jim O'Brien, Bill Guthridge (rip), and Mike Montgomery.
i didnt even remember jim obrien coached in college...thought he was only nba
Boston College and Ohio State. I don't remember him in the NBA. Did he coach the celtics?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_O%27Brien
miller's ceiling is higher than anything k-state basketball has ever had. in year four of a dramatic rebuild, he had zona as the 14th best team in KenPom. then 2nd best (33-5 overall). then 3rd best (34-4 overall). then zona fell off for a couple years—to 19th and 18th. yes, crap hit the fan in recent years, but it was far from a nosedive even despite all the NCAA stuff. they were 19th last year and 29th this year.THIS IS OUR HUGGY!
miller put 13 guys in the NBA in a decade, including three players in the '20 draft. five of his former players went top 10, including deandre ayton 1st overall in '18. almost all of them left early. part of the reason he hasn't been able to sustain top-10 level success every year is because he recruits guys who are too good to stay three or four years!
what a nice problem to have.
when weber's players leave early, it's almost always to transfer to another school!
THIS IS OUR HUGGY!
miller's ceiling is higher than anything k-state basketball has ever had. in year four of a dramatic rebuild, he had zona as the 14th best team in KenPom. then 2nd best (33-5 overall). then 3rd best (34-4 overall). then zona fell off for a couple years—to 19th and 18th. yes, crap hit the fan in recent years, but it was far from a nosedive even despite all the NCAA stuff. they were 19th last year and 29th this year.
miller put 13 guys in the NBA in a decade, including three players in the '20 draft. five of his former players went top 10, including deandre ayton 1st overall in '18. almost all of them left early. part of the reason he hasn't been able to sustain top-10 level success every year is because he recruits guys who are too good to stay three or four years!
what a nice problem to have.
when weber's players leave early, it's almost always to transfer to another school!
is it really fair to call it "putting players in the nba" when u are just bribing 5-stars to come play for u, and not developing them in any noticeable way?Yes
is it really fair to call it "putting players in the nba" when u are just bribing 5-stars to come play for u, and not developing them in any noticeable way?
We actually do have one more, but they won't use that on a point guard, they are looking for a stretch 4.
The staff has been off of Mason, especially after landing Nowell. 'zifried, buddy, the guy's only offers were UMKC and Abilene Christian, you gotta be more selective with the meltdowns.
We actually do have one more, but they won't use that on a point guard, they are looking for a stretch 4.
The staff has been off of Mason, especially after landing Nowell. 'zifried, buddy, the guy's only offers were UMKC and Abilene Christian, you gotta be more selective with the meltdowns.
Massoud is ours, that is the open scholly technically. Definitely weren’t going to take a 4 and a HS pg. They would find a scholly for Cardet, but lol at that.
On paper, oscar is the best recruiting HC we've had since huggy bear cheated back in the day. His development is the issue. Anyone who faults his recruiting are giant dumb dumbs.
On paper, oscar is the best recruiting HC we've had since huggy bear cheated back in the day. His development is the issue. Anyone who faults his recruiting are giant dumb dumbs.kn
IF ONLY WE HAD MORE JUSTIN WILLIAMS ON THIS TEAM!On paper, oscar is the best recruiting HC we've had since huggy bear cheated back in the day. His development is the issue. Anyone who faults his recruiting are giant dumb dumbs.kn
I know. We are still recovering from the sanctions imposed on us from Huggins' massive violations.
JFC, what a moron. He cheated so much, O.J.Mayo led us to a Final Four.
It's fools like this who keep us confortably small time.
IF ONLY WE HAD MORE JUSTIN WILLIAMS ON THIS TEAM!On paper, oscar is the best recruiting HC we've had since huggy bear cheated back in the day. His development is the issue. Anyone who faults his recruiting are giant dumb dumbs.kn
I know. We are still recovering from the sanctions imposed on us from Huggins' massive violations.
JFC, what a moron. He cheated so much, O.J.Mayo led us to a Final Four.
It's fools like this who keep us confortably small time.
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Take a nap, Grandpa!
ENRAGED! :love:You timid little fool. How do you spend your frightful days? Reading Consumer Reports articles on comparative airbag safety.