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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2021, 09:57:37 AM
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KC Star keeps swinging with their woke asses...
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1359472601488359428?s=20
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KC Star keeps swinging with their woke asses...
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1359472601488359428?s=20
This is the type of crap Chodecat signs up for! :love:
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KC Star keeps swinging with their woke asses...
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1359472601488359428?s=20
This is the type of crap Chodecat signs up for! :love:
At least it's not a story about Daddy's boy putting a 5 year old in a coma.
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KC Star keeps swinging with their woke asses...
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1359472601488359428?s=20
Not gonna lie I thought the same thing when I saw all the white kids who went as Mahomes for Halloween and wore the wig.
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And Shawnee Mission schools are 38% minority??? :Wha:
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Apparently the teacher just wore a generic giant afro, if that makes a difference
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KC Star has turned into woke central the past few years. It's so terrible.
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lol. That didn't take long for Clay to sniff out. :facepalm:
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1359536963297173510?s=20
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Wasn't a mahomes wig, and toriano porter is not a sports writer.
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KC Star keeps swinging with their woke asses...
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1359472601488359428?s=20
Not gonna lie I thought the same thing when I saw all the white kids who went as Mahomes for Halloween and wore the wig.
You thought it was a bad look or you thought whatever wacky was saying about woke asses?
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KC Star keeps swinging with their woke asses...
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1359472601488359428?s=20
Not gonna lie I thought the same thing when I saw all the white kids who went as Mahomes for Halloween and wore the wig.
You thought it was a bad look or you thought whatever wacky was saying about woke asses?
Literally, all you have to do is go to their Twitter page, to see what angle they're playing every day. If it isn't trying to pin point people out of KC who attended the rally, it's crap like this, and telling people to wear more than one mask. I honestly don't know how they afford all of that office space anymore.
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KC Star keeps swinging with their woke asses...
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1359472601488359428?s=20
Not gonna lie I thought the same thing when I saw all the white kids who went as Mahomes for Halloween and wore the wig.
You thought it was a bad look or you thought whatever wacky was saying about woke asses?
Literally, all you have to do is go to their Twitter page, to see what angle they're playing every day. If it isn't trying to pin point people out of KC who attended the rally, it's crap like this, and telling people to wear more than one mask. I honestly don't know how they afford all of that office space anymore.
Yeah, they have way too much office space. Pisses me off. Plus Clay Travis.
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Wut
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KC Star keeps swinging with their woke asses...
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1359472601488359428?s=20
Not gonna lie I thought the same thing when I saw all the white kids who went as Mahomes for Halloween and wore the wig.
You thought it was a bad look or you thought whatever wacky was saying about woke asses?
I think the Halloween costumes are a borderline bad look. I mean I wouldn't wear one for that reason (even if it wasn't a totally lame costume)
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KC Star keeps swinging with their woke asses...
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1359472601488359428?s=20
Not gonna lie I thought the same thing when I saw all the white kids who went as Mahomes for Halloween and wore the wig.
You thought it was a bad look or you thought whatever wacky was saying about woke asses?
I think the Halloween costumes are a borderline bad look. I mean I wouldn't wear one for that reason (even if it wasn't a totally lame costume)
Eh. Maybe borderline. State farm did a commercial on people getting that haircut. He's kinda branding it.
I really don't see people dressing up like that as comparable to blackface. I think people just want to be like Mahomes.
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The intent of the person matters. People put on black face to mock black people. People dress up like Mahomes because the love Mahomes.
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Wut
Sorry. I'm not good at 4D chess. Can't keep up with why I should hate the KC Star, or how the Chiefs killed Terez Paylor.
Or why I should read anything Clay Travis writes.
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Eh. Maybe borderline. State farm did a commercial on people getting that haircut. He's kinda branding it.
I really don't see people dressing up like that as comparable to blackface. I think people just want to be like Mahomes.
The intent of the person matters. People put on black face to mock black people. People dress up like Mahomes because the love Mahomes.
yep, that's fair from both of you. I can also see how a black person (who isn't Mahomes) could take offense, which to me is enough to steer clear.
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And Shawnee Mission schools are 38% minority??? :Wha:
north joco demo has changed a lot but not at SM East where this incident occurred
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I haven't seen the pic of the teacher in question, but you can see a lot of possible examples here: https://www.amazon.com/Watts-Wigs-Mahomes-Headband-Adults/dp/B07MBTSSKW
Hilarious on all our pre Christmas party!
They all opened a secret gift at the same time- and were excited to see a Mahomes wig! The hit gift of party!!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3G18H62V2SWK/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B07MBTSSKW
Looks like a rip-off of the steve dave wig, but with a "15" headband replacing the visor.
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(https://kubrick.htvapps.com/htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/images/mahomes-wig-headbands-1567172218.jpg?resize=660:*)
https://www.kmbc.com/article/patrick-mahomes-wig-headbands-available-friday-at-hy-vee-locations-kansas-city-chiefs-qauterback/28869984
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Trigger warning
https://twitter.com/tai_leclaire/status/1359155000417669125
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Trigger warning
https://twitter.com/tai_leclaire/status/1359155000417669125
That's rough ridin' hilarious.
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So I opened this thread to read about Terez Paylor and imagine my surprise to see that even this thread has turned into the latest episode of insecure white man feels aggrieved again. I personally don't care about the afro wigs. I do think Pat is kind of a cornball for signing off on the licensing of such things, but honestly, I probably would have done the same thing at his age, I'm a bit more protective of these things now though. I would have shook my head at anyone who I saw wearing one of these, but I would have kept it moving.
Now this part is definitely going to hurt wacky's feelings. Like I said I don't necessarily share the feelings of the man who wrote that opinion column, however to dismiss that man's feelings as wokeness, is absolutely why people like wacky play a massive role in these racial issues being stuck in the mud, and who allow profiteers like Clay Travis to make money off of mining outrage from insecure white men. You don't have to agree with how that man feels, I don't but to just dismiss his feelings without even considering his point is close-minded at best. The same people who would tell a black man that he is woke because he doesn't feel right about something specific to his race are the very same people who would completely and angrily dismiss any notion that they are racist or that any notions of racism even exist. Whenever these people hear a person of color say something that makes them uncomfortable, the first impulse isn't to understand why, it is to be dismissive. It's gross, I'm sick of it, and I will not allow any place I inhabit as much as I do this here to be a safe place for it to happen without me calling it out.
I haven't had an afro since I was about 6 or 7 years old, I haven't even had hair since 1992. I have no goddamned idea what triggers someone could have related to their hair, and while I don't relate at all, I certainly will listen to those who do and be sympathetic to it, because why the eff wouldn't I? Doing so wouldn't have the least bit of adverse effect on my life.
Wacky, open up your mind, stop being mad about everything, looking under every rock for reasons to be aggrieved isn't great for anyone's mental health and it is poisonous to our society, if you care about such things.
End rant.
RIP Terez, I was scared as hell that this was another young black man who lost his life to COVID. I can't describe how scared I am of this disease.
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So I opened this thread to read about Terez Paylor and imagine my surprise to see that even this thread has turned into the latest episode of insecure white man feels aggrieved again. I personally don't care about the afro wigs. I do think Pat is kind of a cornball for signing off on the licensing of such things, but honestly, I probably would have done the same thing at his age, I'm a bit more protective of these things now though. I would have shook my head at anyone who I saw wearing one of these, but I would have kept it moving.
Now this part is definitely going to hurt wacky's feelings. Like I said I don't necessarily share the feelings of the man who wrote that opinion column, however to dismiss that man's feelings as wokeness, is absolutely why people like wacky play a massive role in these racial issues being stuck in the mud, and who allow profiteers like Clay Travis to make money off of mining outrage from insecure white men. You don't have to agree with how that man feels, I don't but to just dismiss his feelings without even considering his point is close-minded at best. The same people who would tell a black man that he is woke because he doesn't feel right about something specific to his race are the very same people who would completely and angrily dismiss any notion that they are racist or that any notions of racism even exist. Whenever these people hear a person of color say something that makes them uncomfortable, the first impulse isn't to understand why, it is to be dismissive. It's gross, I'm sick of it, and I will not allow any place I inhabit as much as I do this here to be a safe place for it to happen without me calling it out.
I haven't had an afro since I was about 6 or 7 years old, I haven't even had hair since 1992. I have no goddamned idea what triggers someone could have related to their hair, and while I don't relate at all, I certainly will listen to those who do and be sympathetic to it, because why the eff wouldn't I? Doing so wouldn't have the least bit of adverse effect on my life.
Wacky, open up your mind, stop being mad about everything, looking under every rock for reasons to be aggrieved isn't great for anyone's mental health and it is poisonous to our society, if you care about such things.
End rant.
RIP Terez, I was scared as hell that this was another young black man who lost his life to COVID. I can't describe how scared I am of this disease.
I definitely value your opinion and appreciate this thoughtful post. I cannot relate with a lot of these issues and I need to shut up when it comes to some of this stuff. However, the part I bolded is exactly how I feel about what the media is trying to do about everything these days. Literally lifting rocks to see what might/could be offensive and needs cancelled for a few clicks. I just think it's going to go so far to the point that it will lose it's luster, and some of the important stuff will get overlooked by people who really need educated.
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So I opened this thread to read about Terez Paylor and imagine my surprise to see that even this thread has turned into the latest episode of insecure white man feels aggrieved again. I personally don't care about the afro wigs. I do think Pat is kind of a cornball for signing off on the licensing of such things, but honestly, I probably would have done the same thing at his age, I'm a bit more protective of these things now though. I would have shook my head at anyone who I saw wearing one of these, but I would have kept it moving.
Now this part is definitely going to hurt wacky's feelings. Like I said I don't necessarily share the feelings of the man who wrote that opinion column, however to dismiss that man's feelings as wokeness, is absolutely why people like wacky play a massive role in these racial issues being stuck in the mud, and who allow profiteers like Clay Travis to make money off of mining outrage from insecure white men. You don't have to agree with how that man feels, I don't but to just dismiss his feelings without even considering his point is close-minded at best. The same people who would tell a black man that he is woke because he doesn't feel right about something specific to his race are the very same people who would completely and angrily dismiss any notion that they are racist or that any notions of racism even exist. Whenever these people hear a person of color say something that makes them uncomfortable, the first impulse isn't to understand why, it is to be dismissive. It's gross, I'm sick of it, and I will not allow any place I inhabit as much as I do this here to be a safe place for it to happen without me calling it out.
I haven't had an afro since I was about 6 or 7 years old, I haven't even had hair since 1992. I have no goddamned idea what triggers someone could have related to their hair, and while I don't relate at all, I certainly will listen to those who do and be sympathetic to it, because why the eff wouldn't I? Doing so wouldn't have the least bit of adverse effect on my life.
Wacky, open up your mind, stop being mad about everything, looking under every rock for reasons to be aggrieved isn't great for anyone's mental health and it is poisonous to our society, if you care about such things.
End rant.
RIP Terez, I was scared as hell that this was another young black man who lost his life to COVID. I can't describe how scared I am of this disease.
I definitely value your opinion and appreciate this thoughtful post. I cannot relate with a lot of these issues and I need to shut up when it comes to some of this stuff. However, the part I bolded is exactly how I feel about what the media is trying to do about everything these days. Literally lifting rocks to see what might/could be offensive and needs cancelled for a few clicks. I just think it's going to go so far to the point that it will lose it's luster, and some of the important stuff will get overlooked by people who really need educated.
What's the media? That's one persons opinion, you can literally find any opinion about anything ever. There is a cottage industry designed to outrage people with the talking point that "the media" is out to get you (general term). Find some person with an opinion of something that doesn't fit my opinion, which is very easy to find because of the internet. If that opinion appears via some media outlet, assign that opinion to all media and blame them all, but not the media I'm giving the message from or the outlet I represent. Find it on social media, then assign that media to everyone who looks like that person, or better yet, just to "people" or all social media, but of course excluding my social media account and those who think like me.
It can't be a surprise that someone felt uneasy about these wigs. It isn't like dude called anyone racist, he even pointed out that even here in the 2021 there has to be legislation in the area with regard to discrimination based on people's hair.
I promise you that of the people who actually work for the KC Star, a gigantic majority of those would wear that wig and not have a single problem doing so. This wasn't some vast media left wing conspiracy to make white men feel bad about themselves, very very very very few things are.
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https://twitter.com/timjimlaughlin/status/1359534448736428033?s=21
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Wearing a jersey of a player that you love, that you don’t share the same ethnicity with is next.
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Wearing a jersey of a player that you love, that you don’t share the same ethnicity with is next.
I think you know that's very different
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Wearing a jersey of a player that you love, that you don’t share the same ethnicity with is next.
I think you know that's very different
For now :dunno:
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Wearing a jersey of a player that you love, that you don’t share the same ethnicity with is next.
I think you know that's very different
For now :dunno:
Only difference so far is not wearing a patterned mahomes head band with a fake fro attached to it.
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https://twitter.com/justjakekc/status/1359483561397669888?s=21
When supporting our star QB goes racist via @MakeItRain
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We’re all just angry whites according to @MakeItRain tho!
https://twitter.com/johnlaffoon17/status/1359477274647666691?s=21
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@MakeItRain
https://twitter.com/ken_vanderslice/status/1359481626867212289?s=21
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Mahomes signing off on the wigs doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic
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Mahomes signing off on the wigs doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic
So white Ppl supporting the cause and buying them are, for a goddamn charity support?
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Mahomes signing off on the wigs doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic
So white Ppl supporting the cause and buying them are, for a goddamn charity support?
I didn't say that, but the fact that the wigs are for charity doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic
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Mahomes signing off on the wigs doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic
So white Ppl supporting the cause and buying them are, for a goddamn charity support?
I didn't say that, but the fact that the wigs are for charity doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic
Mahomes signing off on the wigs doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic
So white Ppl supporting the cause and buying them are, for a goddamn charity support?
Man, I agree, somewhat, but how did we go from a rebel board, to preaching how adolescent others are here. I’m not saying it’s you, Mich, but jfc, grow up ppl. The founders started the Precedent for what this board was and now they’re trying to change the game on posters who they use to dox for their own well being.
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I'm just suggesting you consider the thoughts and opinions of people like the author of the column or MiR more than opinions from people like Clay Travis on issues like this.
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I honestly hate Clay. I’m a moderate. I just disagree with MIR’s assessment that “White man, mad!” Stuff. Half my wedding party was African American and had zero affiliation with either of our families. I’ll never be able to relate to MIR’s experiences growing up, but I’m not his token Midwestern white boy he’s painting a picture with, that you all are letting him slide by with, because he knows some of the mods. Idgaf bud, happy you’re doing well. Go cats! Have a night of it!
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can you guys please take this crap to the pit where it belongs, i have tried to steer the conversation away from this
Well wacky can't post there and I'm certain you aren't suggesting that he can just pedal this without questions being asked.
As for you wacky, I'm genuinely curious about your tone change on this. I'm also at a loss for why this makes you so mad, why you keep bringing it up unsolicited, over and over again. No one was called a racist yet you keep using that language. These are rhetorical questions because you've yet to address it but why this one man's opinion about this has you on tilt so much. No one called you a token white boy, again your language not mine. You are someone who has a very hard time listening to any different opinion without going full tilt. It's exactly why you don't have access to the pit, whomever banned you from it has your best interests in mind.
Those tweet replies don't address the opinion at all, they are just things you feel that affirm your beliefs. You don't have to agree with the dude, I already said I don't, but you should probably do some introspection about why this makes you so mad.
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damnit MIR white fragility needs a poster boy and Wacks is giving us his best
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So I opened this thread to read about Terez Paylor and imagine my surprise to see that even this thread has turned into the latest episode of insecure white man feels aggrieved again. I personally don't care about the afro wigs. I do think Pat is kind of a cornball for signing off on the licensing of such things, but honestly, I probably would have done the same thing at his age, I'm a bit more protective of these things now though. I would have shook my head at anyone who I saw wearing one of these, but I would have kept it moving.
Now this part is definitely going to hurt wacky's feelings. Like I said I don't necessarily share the feelings of the man who wrote that opinion column, however to dismiss that man's feelings as wokeness, is absolutely why people like wacky play a massive role in these racial issues being stuck in the mud, and who allow profiteers like Clay Travis to make money off of mining outrage from insecure white men. You don't have to agree with how that man feels, I don't but to just dismiss his feelings without even considering his point is close-minded at best. The same people who would tell a black man that he is woke because he doesn't feel right about something specific to his race are the very same people who would completely and angrily dismiss any notion that they are racist or that any notions of racism even exist. Whenever these people hear a person of color say something that makes them uncomfortable, the first impulse isn't to understand why, it is to be dismissive. It's gross, I'm sick of it, and I will not allow any place I inhabit as much as I do this here to be a safe place for it to happen without me calling it out.
I haven't had an afro since I was about 6 or 7 years old, I haven't even had hair since 1992. I have no goddamned idea what triggers someone could have related to their hair, and while I don't relate at all, I certainly will listen to those who do and be sympathetic to it, because why the eff wouldn't I? Doing so wouldn't have the least bit of adverse effect on my life.
Wacky, open up your mind, stop being mad about everything, looking under every rock for reasons to be aggrieved isn't great for anyone's mental health and it is poisonous to our society, if you care about such things.
End rant.
RIP Terez, I was scared as hell that this was another young black man who lost his life to COVID. I can't describe how scared I am of this disease.
1000% on brand with the sig meme
Hilarious :lol: :lol:
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What if Mahomes identifies as 'white'?
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What if Mahomes identifies as 'white'?
Who are you asking that question of and why is it even relevant?
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What if Mahomes identifies as 'white'?
Who are you asking that question of and why is it even relevant?
Well we are talking about cultural appropriation are we not? This is a general question, I'd love to hear your input as well. Also mich a kid wearing a halloween costume of someone he idolizes I hope you are 100% gEing
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What if Mahomes identifies as 'white'?
Who are you asking that question of and why is it even relevant?
Well we are talking about cultural appropriation are we not? This is a general question, I'd love to hear your input as well. Also mich a kid wearing a halloween costume of someone he idolizes I hope you are 100% gEing
Patrick Mahomes doesn't speak for the culture though, no more than the gentleman that wrote that opinion column. His excusing it doesn't make every other person who has felt like they have been the victim of bias because of their hair feel better. Dave Chappelle wearing a dreadlock wig on Half Baked isn't going to make that wrestler who had to cut his locs off while literally on the mat feel better.
I think it is absurd the prevailing thought about this is that "Pat Mahomes thinks it's okay, so every other person in the world should be fine with it." If he did identify as white, which isn't the least bit relevant, would make this opinion even more absurd.
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The kids aren't dressing up as "a black guy" for Halloween, though. They are dressing up as Patrick Mahomes, so frankly, his opinion is the only one that matters.
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Are we so far gone as a society that an educator who probably borrowed a wig to dress up as Patrick Mahomes is newsworthy? It's what's honestly wrong with the media. It's just a hot thing to write about and add fuel
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It really does suck that a schoolteacher who bought a wig for a charity is having her picture printed in the newspaper in some sort of poorly thought out smear campaign.
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the reaction of this opinion column, but I genuinely am shocked at how pissed people are. People legitimately think this man has no right to have and share his opinion on this. I pointed out that this guy absolutely isn't calling people racist and some dude quoted two passages from the column that didn't call anyone racist and said "come on you know he means racist here." Mt disappointment is that there seems to be a targeted campaign to remove nuance from any of these conversations, and it's working.
Many of the same people pissed that this guy is asking people to be considerate of what they are doing with these wigs are the same people who are willing to use the term cancel culture when discussing something like a woman human male genitals fighter losing her acting job because she said that republicans are being treated like Jews during the Holocaust. There are a lot of people who have told the general public that it's a weakness to be sensitive and thoughtful about things that don't have an affect you, and not only shouldn't you be sensitive to other's experiences, you really need to dig your heels in and act like they are trying to take something from you. It's incredibly frustrating and disheartening. If this guy can't get people to take his feelings, about this minute issue, at face value, how are we supposed to think we will make any headway on any of the big issues at all?
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Are we so far gone as a society that an educator who probably borrowed a wig to dress up as Patrick Mahomes is newsworthy? It's what's honestly wrong with the media. It's just a hot thing to write about and add fuel
Yes. That's how far we've gone. Now get blasted for sharing that opinion that maybe news outlets might be losing their collective minds.
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Are we so far gone as a society that an educator who probably borrowed a wig to dress up as Patrick Mahomes is newsworthy? It's what's honestly wrong with the media. It's just a hot thing to write about and add fuel
It's not the goddamned media, it's one guy's opinion. Opinion columns aren't written as news and aren't written with the intent that everyone agrees with them. I don't agree with it. Do you really think most of the people at the Star agrees with or even relates to what he's expressing?
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the reaction of this opinion column, but I genuinely am shocked at how pissed people are. People legitimately think this man has no right to have and share his opinion on this. I pointed out that this guy absolutely isn't calling people racist and some dude quoted two passages from the column that didn't call anyone racist and said "come on you know he means racist here." Mt disappointment is that there seems to be a targeted campaign to remove nuance from any of these conversations, and it's working.
Many of the same people pissed that this guy is asking people to be considerate of what they are doing with these wigs are the same people who are willing to use the term cancel culture when discussing something like a woman human male genitals fighter losing her acting job because she said that republicans are being treated like Jews during the Holocaust. There are a lot of people who have told the general public that it's a weakness to be sensitive and thoughtful about things that don't have an affect you, and not only shouldn't you be sensitive to other's experiences, you really need to dig your heels in and act like they are trying to take something from you. It's incredibly frustrating and disheartening. If this guy can't get people to take his feelings, about this minute issue, at face value, how are we supposed to think we will make any headway on any of the big issues at all?
He has the right to have and share his incorrect opinion. The whole reason the newspaper printed his opinion is to generate discussion on the topic, though, so I don't understand why you would be surprised to see people disagreeing with him.
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Has anyone seen the picture of the teacher in the wig?
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The kids aren't dressing up as "a black guy" for Halloween, though. They are dressing up as Patrick Mahomes, so frankly, his opinion is the only one that matters.
I'm sorry but this is really stupid and I think you know it. Again, I want to point out that I am not offended by the wigs. I think they are unnecessary, but they don't get me in my feelings, I haven't had someone give me crap about my hair. But you're telling me that if a fair skinned person dressed up as OJ for Halloween, they painted themselves really dark, used those red wax lips, wore a 32 USC football jersey, and carried a bloody knife with blonde hair stuck to it would be a fine costume if OJ thought it was fine? There is literally no way in hell you think that.
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Has anyone seen the picture of the teacher in the wig?
I assumed it was the lady in the photo from the tweet, but maybe it's not.
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Are we so far gone as a society that an educator who probably borrowed a wig to dress up as Patrick Mahomes is newsworthy? It's what's honestly wrong with the media. It's just a hot thing to write about and add fuel
It's not the goddamned media, it's one guy's opinion. Opinion columns aren't written as news and aren't written with the intent that everyone agrees with them. I don't agree with it. Do you really think most of the people at the Star agrees with or even relates to what he's expressing?
I think it's horsesh1t that they would even let him run it and possibly ruin that teachers career for no real reason personally. I get freedom of speech but we live in a "track em down" and make them pay society.
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Has anyone seen the picture of the teacher in the wig?
I don't know the hell what RATM is talking about when he says this teacher getting his picture in the paper. The picture on the online column credits Amazon.
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Are we so far gone as a society that an educator who probably borrowed a wig to dress up as Patrick Mahomes is newsworthy? It's what's honestly wrong with the media. It's just a hot thing to write about and add fuel
It's not the goddamned media, it's one guy's opinion. Opinion columns aren't written as news and aren't written with the intent that everyone agrees with them. I don't agree with it. Do you really think most of the people at the Star agrees with or even relates to what he's expressing?
I think it's horsesh1t that they would even let him run it and possibly ruin that teachers career for no real reason personally. I get freedom of speech but we live in a "track em down" and make them pay society.
Y'all are on some clown crap and I'm starting to wonder if you even read the column. The damn teacher's name, grade, or subject isn't even mentioned in the column.
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The kids aren't dressing up as "a black guy" for Halloween, though. They are dressing up as Patrick Mahomes, so frankly, his opinion is the only one that matters.
I'm sorry but this is really stupid and I think you know it. Again, I want to point out that I am not offended by the wigs. I think they are unnecessary, but they don't get me in my feelings, I haven't had someone give me crap about my hair. But you're telling me that if a fair skinned person dressed up as OJ for Halloween, they painted themselves really dark, used those red wax lips, wore a 32 USC football jersey, and carried a bloody knife with blonde hair stuck to it would be a fine costume if OJ thought it was fine? There is literally no way in hell you think that.
There definitely is a line somewhere. I don't think wearing an OJ mask would cross the line, but putting on blackface would, mostly because you would look nothing like OJ and would pretty much just be making fun of black people with the costume you described.
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I've had multiple black people I know express discomfort with white people wearing Mahomes wigs. I won't defend people wearing it at the expense of other people's discomfort. Perhaps the most offensive thing to me in all of this is that a lot of white people think they can explain to black people how they should feel about it. I don't fully understand this one but I sure as crap don't need to be wearing a Mahomes wig around either.
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Are we so far gone as a society that an educator who probably borrowed a wig to dress up as Patrick Mahomes is newsworthy? It's what's honestly wrong with the media. It's just a hot thing to write about and add fuel
It's not the goddamned media, it's one guy's opinion. Opinion columns aren't written as news and aren't written with the intent that everyone agrees with them. I don't agree with it. Do you really think most of the people at the Star agrees with or even relates to what he's expressing?
I think it's horsesh1t that they would even let him run it and possibly ruin that teachers career for no real reason personally. I get freedom of speech but we live in a "track em down" and make them pay society.
Y'all are on some clown crap and I'm starting to wonder if you even read the column. The damn teacher's name, grade, or subject isn't even mentioned in the column.
I'm just saying these type of situations that are similar to an extent tend to get figured out quite easily if someone wants to.
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Has anyone seen the picture of the teacher in the wig?
I don't know the hell what RATM is talking about when he says this teacher getting his picture in the paper. The picture on the online column credits Amazon.
Correct, and I found those pics and similar on amazon and getting the hy-vee wigs as the search results too. I don't think the actual pic has been spread that much, although it's gotta be out there.
If what the teacher did is wear one of those explicit Mahomes wigs (especially the hy-vee Mahomes-endorsed ones), I think the column-writer maybe should've taken more issue with Mahomes himself for his role and explained why the creation of such wigs is problematic. The writer was going down that road toward the end and said they'd reached out for comment but didn't hear back.
If the teacher took an afro wig and worn a headband and was declaring it to be a Mahomes costume, I think the column-writer should've made that more clear and how that's undoubtedly inappropriate and then segued into what they feel is problematic about even the Mahomes-endorsed wigs.
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The teacher using a generic afro and headband is a little :facepalm: . just giving the benefit of the doubt, I don't think it was malicious but the teacher should have used better judgment
The Mahomes branded/specific stuff is totally different imo.
The people losing their minds over an opinion piece like this are part of the outrage machine they accuse this guy of apart of. It'd be good if everyone could be a little more introspective.
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i saw the picture and thought it was pretty mundane, tbh, but i guess it's in the eye of the beholder. given the teacher's lack of malicious intent, it seems like a silly issue to get super worked up about, but the writer certainly has the right to get worked up about it, and his readers have the right to think his opinion is dumb and dismissible. comparing it to blackface seems disingenuous to me.
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I've had multiple black people I know express discomfort with white people wearing Mahomes wigs. I won't defend people wearing it at the expense of other people's discomfort. Perhaps the most offensive thing to me in all of this is that a lot of white people think they can explain to black people how they should feel about it. I don't fully understand this one but I sure as crap don't need to be wearing a Mahomes wig around either.
Are people explaining to black people how they should feel, or are they claiming those feelings don't really matter?
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I've had multiple black people I know express discomfort with white people wearing Mahomes wigs. I won't defend people wearing it at the expense of other people's discomfort. Perhaps the most offensive thing to me in all of this is that a lot of white people think they can explain to black people how they should feel about it. I don't fully understand this one but I sure as crap don't need to be wearing a Mahomes wig around either.
Tbh, the wigs are something that I never would have even considered people having a problem with. Putting opinions like this out into the public sphere is beneficial imo and exactly what a local newspaper should be doing.
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I've had multiple black people I know express discomfort with white people wearing Mahomes wigs. I won't defend people wearing it at the expense of other people's discomfort. Perhaps the most offensive thing to me in all of this is that a lot of white people think they can explain to black people how they should feel about it. I don't fully understand this one but I sure as crap don't need to be wearing a Mahomes wig around either.
Are people explaining to black people how they should feel, or are they claiming those feelings don't really matter?
just the run of the mill being outraged about someone else's outrage
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The teacher using a generic afro and headband is a little :facepalm: . just giving the benefit of the doubt, I don't think it was malicious but the teacher should have used better judgment
The Mahomes branded/specific stuff is totally different imo.
The people losing their minds over an opinion piece like this are part of the outrage machine they accuse this guy of apart of. It'd be good if everyone could be a little more introspective.
I can agree with all of this. I also am seeing the prospective from a teacher who's like ah crap its Chiefs day what do I have that I can throw on in my closet. Well I have my Mahomes Jersey and my afro from 70's spirit day.
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Pretty far off topic, but the halloween costume talk reminded me. I saw a kid, prolly 9 or 10, dressed up like a lumberjack. Which is a pretty cool costume. What was even cooler is he was walking around with a real hatchet. I said, "holy crap, kid, is that a real hatchet?!" He said, "Yeah" then spun around and almost smacked his little sister in the head with it. I said, "well, have fun. Be careful with that. Jesus Christ." and they went on their merry way.
I think the kids made it home in one piece. Maybe next year he'll have a chainsaw.
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Are we so far gone as a society that an educator who probably borrowed a wig to dress up as Patrick Mahomes is newsworthy? It's what's honestly wrong with the media. It's just a hot thing to write about and add fuel
It's not the goddamned media, it's one guy's opinion. Opinion columns aren't written as news and aren't written with the intent that everyone agrees with them. I don't agree with it. Do you really think most of the people at the Star agrees with or even relates to what he's expressing?
I think it's horsesh1t that they would even let him run it and possibly ruin that teachers career for no real reason personally. I get freedom of speech but we live in a "track em down" and make them pay society.
Y'all are on some clown crap and I'm starting to wonder if you even read the column. The damn teacher's name, grade, or subject isn't even mentioned in the column.
I'm just saying these type of situations that are similar to an extent tend to get figured out quite easily if someone wants to.
Who wants to? The instagram photo was taken 9 days ago and no one seems to be calling for this person to be burned at the stake or even calling for his job. Your first instinct is to feign outrage about this unspoken man's job, without knowing a damn thing about him, only that he was a white dude mentioned without name or image in a Kansas City Star column that would have gotten very little traction if not for the white outrage patrol. Meanwhile, you haven't showed even a shred of concern for the sentiment the columnist expressed or what some nut might try to do to this guy who's name, face, and place of work is public record. Who do you think is in more danger, this nameless, faceless teacher or this black newspaper employee who has been made a poster boy for wokeness and the evil media by every aggrieved white man and woman on social media who has seen this RTed hundreds of times?
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I've had multiple black people I know express discomfort with white people wearing Mahomes wigs. I won't defend people wearing it at the expense of other people's discomfort. Perhaps the most offensive thing to me in all of this is that a lot of white people think they can explain to black people how they should feel about it. I don't fully understand this one but I sure as crap don't need to be wearing a Mahomes wig around either.
The teacher using a generic afro and headband is a little :facepalm: . just giving the benefit of the doubt, I don't think it was malicious but the teacher should have used better judgment
The Mahomes branded/specific stuff is totally different imo.
The people losing their minds over an opinion piece like this are part of the outrage machine they accuse this guy of apart of. It'd be good if everyone could be a little more introspective.
These are very well said, thank you. For the record I don't see a difference between an afro wig and headband and the Mahomes branded stuff, the intent is the same, and it isn't malicious, but that doesn't mean there is something to be learned and considered from doing either publically.
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Are we so far gone as a society that an educator who probably borrowed a wig to dress up as Patrick Mahomes is newsworthy? It's what's honestly wrong with the media. It's just a hot thing to write about and add fuel
It's not the goddamned media, it's one guy's opinion. Opinion columns aren't written as news and aren't written with the intent that everyone agrees with them. I don't agree with it. Do you really think most of the people at the Star agrees with or even relates to what he's expressing?
I think it's horsesh1t that they would even let him run it and possibly ruin that teachers career for no real reason personally. I get freedom of speech but we live in a "track em down" and make them pay society.
Y'all are on some clown crap and I'm starting to wonder if you even read the column. The damn teacher's name, grade, or subject isn't even mentioned in the column.
I'm just saying these type of situations that are similar to an extent tend to get figured out quite easily if someone wants to.
Who wants to? The instagram photo was taken 9 days ago and no one seems to be calling for this person to be burned at the stake or even calling for his job. Your first instinct is to feign outrage about this unspoken man's job, without knowing a damn thing about him, only that he was a white dude mentioned without name or image in a Kansas City Star column that would have gotten very little traction if not for the white outrage patrol. Meanwhile, you haven't showed even a shred of concern for the sentiment the columnist expressed or what some nut might try to do to this guy who's name, face, and place of work is public record. Who do you think is in more danger, this nameless, faceless teacher or this black newspaper employee who has been made a poster boy for wokeness and the evil media by every aggrieved white man and woman on social media who has seen this RTed hundreds of times?
I'm not outraged at all. Didn't even look to see that the person that wrote it was black. I wouldn't give care either way. It's a dumb piece.
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i saw the picture and thought it was pretty mundane, tbh, but i guess it's in the eye of the beholder. given the teacher's lack of malicious intent, it seems like a silly issue to get super worked up about, but the writer certainly has the right to get worked up about it, and his readers have the right to think his opinion is dumb and dismissible. comparing it to blackface seems disingenuous to me.
The author certainly didn't "get worked up about it," he expressed an opinion, he didn't call for anyone to get fired, he offered an alternate way to look at the situation, those things used to be of value, pretty clear that has been diminished. Of course anyone has the option to think his opinion is dumb and dismissable, that's well within anyone's right. It certainly sends a very strong message to dismiss a black man's opinion on white people wearing afros as dumb and dismissable. I have to wonder what opinion this gentleman has about things that he deems important to who he is, merits being taken seriously. I can't help but to extend that to how you feel about opinions that I have that you can't wrap your hands around.
No one compared this to blackface, so I don't know where you got that from. I do think they are very comparable though, as in most cases the intent isn't harm. I assure you that 99% of people wearing blackface didn't do so with the intent of offending anyone.
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Pretty far off topic, but the halloween costume talk reminded me. I saw a kid, prolly 9 or 10, dressed up like a lumberjack. Which is a pretty cool costume. What was even cooler is he was walking around with a real hatchet. I said, "holy crap, kid, is that a real hatchet?!" He said, "Yeah" then spun around and almost smacked his little sister in the head with it. I said, "well, have fun. Be careful with that. Jesus Christ." and they went on their merry way.
I think the kids made it home in one piece. Maybe next year he'll have a chainsaw.
lol, is this real?
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Pretty far off topic, but the halloween costume talk reminded me. I saw a kid, prolly 9 or 10, dressed up like a lumberjack. Which is a pretty cool costume. What was even cooler is he was walking around with a real hatchet. I said, "holy crap, kid, is that a real hatchet?!" He said, "Yeah" then spun around and almost smacked his little sister in the head with it. I said, "well, have fun. Be careful with that. Jesus Christ." and they went on their merry way.
I think the kids made it home in one piece. Maybe next year he'll have a chainsaw.
lol, is this real?
Absolutely.
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i saw the picture and thought it was pretty mundane, tbh, but i guess it's in the eye of the beholder. given the teacher's lack of malicious intent, it seems like a silly issue to get super worked up about, but the writer certainly has the right to get worked up about it, and his readers have the right to think his opinion is dumb and dismissible. comparing it to blackface seems disingenuous to me.
The author certainly didn't "get worked up about it," he expressed an opinion, he didn't call for anyone to get fired, he offered an alternate way to look at the situation, those things used to be of value, pretty clear that has been diminished. Of course anyone has the option to think his opinion is dumb and dismissable, that's well within anyone's right. It certainly sends a very strong message to dismiss a black man's opinion on white people wearing afros as dumb and dismissable. I have to wonder what opinion this gentleman has about things that he deems important to who he is, merits being taken seriously. I can't help but to extend that to how you feel about opinions that I have that you can't wrap your hands around.
No one compared this to blackface, so I don't know where you got that from. I do think they are very comparable though, as in most cases the intent isn't harm. I assure you that 99% of people wearing blackface didn't do so with the intent of offending anyone.
The headline of the article compared it to blackface.
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i saw the picture and thought it was pretty mundane, tbh, but i guess it's in the eye of the beholder. given the teacher's lack of malicious intent, it seems like a silly issue to get super worked up about, but the writer certainly has the right to get worked up about it, and his readers have the right to think his opinion is dumb and dismissible. comparing it to blackface seems disingenuous to me.
The author certainly didn't "get worked up about it," he expressed an opinion, he didn't call for anyone to get fired, he offered an alternate way to look at the situation, those things used to be of value, pretty clear that has been diminished. Of course anyone has the option to think his opinion is dumb and dismissable, that's well within anyone's right. It certainly sends a very strong message to dismiss a black man's opinion on white people wearing afros as dumb and dismissable. I have to wonder what opinion this gentleman has about things that he deems important to who he is, merits being taken seriously. I can't help but to extend that to how you feel about opinions that I have that you can't wrap your hands around.
No one compared this to blackface, so I don't know where you got that from. I do think they are very comparable though, as in most cases the intent isn't harm. I assure you that 99% of people wearing blackface didn't do so with the intent of offending anyone.
By "worked up" i mean feel strongly enough about it to write an opinion article about it and publish it in the newspaper, and refer to the picture as "hideous." It's not like this was a subtle passive critique -- not that I'm saying it needed to be. Like I said, that's his prerogative, and mission accomplished: he got people to consider his argument -- it's just that a good portion of his audience disagreed with him pretty strongly about it -- which is their prerogative too. I certainly don't think anyone should be threatening or doxxing him or going over the top in response, but his opinion that "wearing a patrick mahomes whig is distasteful" is subject to criticism too. I don't think opinion articles are really supposed to be met with total deferential respect for the substance of the article.
BTW, there is a comparison to blackface in the headline of the article: "White JoCo teacher’s Mahomes Afro wig isn’t quite blackface, but it’s a terrible look." There's also a quote in the piece comparing it to blackface.
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I've had multiple black people I know express discomfort with white people wearing Mahomes wigs. I won't defend people wearing it at the expense of other people's discomfort. Perhaps the most offensive thing to me in all of this is that a lot of white people think they can explain to black people how they should feel about it. I don't fully understand this one but I sure as crap don't need to be wearing a Mahomes wig around either.
Are people explaining to black people how they should feel, or are they claiming those feelings don't really matter?
I think when white people proclaim something as inoffensive or allowable, it feels to me like they're telling black people how to feel about it. I didn't mean it necessarily as a shot at the people in the thread as I think this group is largely more thoughtful than the public as a whole.
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i saw the picture and thought it was pretty mundane, tbh, but i guess it's in the eye of the beholder. given the teacher's lack of malicious intent, it seems like a silly issue to get super worked up about, but the writer certainly has the right to get worked up about it, and his readers have the right to think his opinion is dumb and dismissible. comparing it to blackface seems disingenuous to me.
The author certainly didn't "get worked up about it," he expressed an opinion, he didn't call for anyone to get fired, he offered an alternate way to look at the situation, those things used to be of value, pretty clear that has been diminished. Of course anyone has the option to think his opinion is dumb and dismissable, that's well within anyone's right. It certainly sends a very strong message to dismiss a black man's opinion on white people wearing afros as dumb and dismissable. I have to wonder what opinion this gentleman has about things that he deems important to who he is, merits being taken seriously. I can't help but to extend that to how you feel about opinions that I have that you can't wrap your hands around.
No one compared this to blackface, so I don't know where you got that from. I do think they are very comparable though, as in most cases the intent isn't harm. I assure you that 99% of people wearing blackface didn't do so with the intent of offending anyone.
By "worked up" i mean feel strongly enough about it to write an opinion article about it and publish it in the newspaper, and refer to the picture as "hideous." It's not like this was a subtle passive critique -- not that I'm saying it needed to be. Like I said, that's his prerogative, and mission accomplished: he got people to consider his argument -- it's just that a good portion of his audience disagreed with him pretty strongly about it -- which is their prerogative too. I certainly don't think anyone should be threatening or doxxing him or going over the top in response, but his opinion that "wearing a patrick mahomes whig is distasteful" is subject to criticism too. I don't think opinion articles are really supposed to be met with total deferential respect for the substance of the article.
BTW, there is a comparison to blackface in the headline of the article: "White JoCo teacher’s Mahomes Afro wig isn’t quite blackface, but it’s a terrible look." There's also a quote in the piece comparing it to blackface.
Agree that the blackface was inflammatory. I also think that writing an op-ed, much like posting in a bbs, there is little room for great content that doesn't take a bold stance.
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i saw the picture and thought it was pretty mundane, tbh, but i guess it's in the eye of the beholder.
where did you see the photo?
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i saw the picture and thought it was pretty mundane, tbh, but i guess it's in the eye of the beholder.
where did you see the photo?
shared in a groupme i'm in with his face blurred. it wasn't a licensed charity pat mahomes whig fwiw, but he looked like what you'd expect a goofy choir teacher dressing up like pat mahomes on spirit day to look like.
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i saw the picture and thought it was pretty mundane, tbh, but i guess it's in the eye of the beholder. given the teacher's lack of malicious intent, it seems like a silly issue to get super worked up about, but the writer certainly has the right to get worked up about it, and his readers have the right to think his opinion is dumb and dismissible. comparing it to blackface seems disingenuous to me.
The author certainly didn't "get worked up about it," he expressed an opinion, he didn't call for anyone to get fired, he offered an alternate way to look at the situation, those things used to be of value, pretty clear that has been diminished. Of course anyone has the option to think his opinion is dumb and dismissable, that's well within anyone's right. It certainly sends a very strong message to dismiss a black man's opinion on white people wearing afros as dumb and dismissable. I have to wonder what opinion this gentleman has about things that he deems important to who he is, merits being taken seriously. I can't help but to extend that to how you feel about opinions that I have that you can't wrap your hands around.
No one compared this to blackface, so I don't know where you got that from. I do think they are very comparable though, as in most cases the intent isn't harm. I assure you that 99% of people wearing blackface didn't do so with the intent of offending anyone.
The headline of the article compared it to blackface.
White JoCo teacher’s Mahomes Afro wig isn’t quite blackface, but it’s a terrible look
Authors of columns also don't write headlines, copy editors do.
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i saw the picture and thought it was pretty mundane, tbh, but i guess it's in the eye of the beholder. given the teacher's lack of malicious intent, it seems like a silly issue to get super worked up about, but the writer certainly has the right to get worked up about it, and his readers have the right to think his opinion is dumb and dismissible. comparing it to blackface seems disingenuous to me.
The author certainly didn't "get worked up about it," he expressed an opinion, he didn't call for anyone to get fired, he offered an alternate way to look at the situation, those things used to be of value, pretty clear that has been diminished. Of course anyone has the option to think his opinion is dumb and dismissable, that's well within anyone's right. It certainly sends a very strong message to dismiss a black man's opinion on white people wearing afros as dumb and dismissable. I have to wonder what opinion this gentleman has about things that he deems important to who he is, merits being taken seriously. I can't help but to extend that to how you feel about opinions that I have that you can't wrap your hands around.
No one compared this to blackface, so I don't know where you got that from. I do think they are very comparable though, as in most cases the intent isn't harm. I assure you that 99% of people wearing blackface didn't do so with the intent of offending anyone.
By "worked up" i mean feel strongly enough about it to write an opinion article about it and publish it in the newspaper, and refer to the picture as "hideous." It's not like this was a subtle passive critique -- not that I'm saying it needed to be. Like I said, that's his prerogative, and mission accomplished: he got people to consider his argument -- it's just that a good portion of his audience disagreed with him pretty strongly about it -- which is their prerogative too. I certainly don't think anyone should be threatening or doxxing him or going over the top in response, but his opinion that "wearing a patrick mahomes whig is distasteful" is subject to criticism too. I don't think opinion articles are really supposed to be met with total deferential respect for the substance of the article.
No one is asking for total deference, but I don't understand doing anything other than saying "okay, good to know" if you can't understand why he feels that way. The pushback isn't a thirst for more knowledge to understand why he feels the way he does, it's a bunch of people telling him he's wrong, or assigning words to him that he didn't use, or crying about the media.
I'm not asking anyone to agree with his thoughts, y'all keep dancing around the fact that I said I don't agree with him. What is well beyond reasonable and what should be the decent thing to do is to not be dismissive on what he's telling you. His opinion comes from a place that all of the people, for some reason pissed that he expressed it, doesn't understand. You have the right to say, "i don't give a crap about your opinion" but just know that to people who empathize with him, you telling him that his opinion is wrong, stupid, or any of that crap, has severe repercussions. He isn't offering his opinion about the chiefs offensive line, or what he thinks of everything bagels, he's telling you something very real about how he sees your world as an outsider, and the response he's been given speaks volumes about what people thinks about offering said opinion. I'm telling you the reaction is hideous, and I don't feel like the wigs are a big deal. I do know that I hold opinions as a black man, living, working, and playing around 80% white people that most would find trivial, and it is real discouraging that expressing that opinion would essentially lead to people telling me to shut the eff up and I have no right to express them to anyone but my other black friends.
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But people do understand why he feels the way he does. He wrote an entire article about it. And if they read the article and still don’t understand, that may be a sign it wasn’t a very good article. But I though he made his position and underlying rationale pretty clear. Regardless just because people strongly disagree with him doesn’t mean they’re ignorant.
I don’t think I agree with the article, but that doesn’t mean I don’t have any respect for him or think he doesn’t have a right to say it or anything. I don’t even know the guy.
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I know/knew zero about the author when it popped up on Twitter. Just looked like another KC Star post where I roll my eyes a bit. Hope that doesn’t make me ignorant.
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I usually view most KC Star opinion pieces as some white hipster new grad from KU, trying to out woke the next guy/gal on the internet. I literally, 100% in my minds eye never thought it might be an African American who wrote it. Nice digging, MIR.
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I know/knew zero about the author when it popped up on Twitter. Just looked like another KC Star post where I roll my eyes a bit. Hope that doesn’t make me ignorant.
Ignorant - lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about a particular thing.
You not knowing about the author or the particulars of his argument by definition makes you ignorant to the facts of the matter
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Shocking take by my guy, LN.
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You should watch last week’s SNL, LN. you’re totally that liberal white guy from one of their skits I can’t find.
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But people do understand why he feels the way he does. He wrote an entire article about it. And if they read the article and still don’t understand, that may be a sign it wasn’t a very good article. But I though he made his position and underlying rationale pretty clear. Regardless just because people strongly disagree with him doesn’t mean they’re ignorant.
I don’t think I agree with the article, but that doesn’t mean I don’t have any respect for him or think he doesn’t have a right to say it or anything. I don’t even know the guy.
I didn't use the word ignorant nor did I intimate it, you're assigning an argument to me that I did not make, just like the people insisting that he's calling people who wear those wigs racists.
My simple point is that people shouldn't have their confusion or fear manifest itself as dismissing this gentleman's experience. He's speaking about what some people have done to make him feel uncomfortable with the hopes that people will see the situation differently. The people shouting him down have no reason to do so, they don't have to worry about going to work or school and be faced with how they will go through their day, they can make the choice to never think about that column ever again.
I think I'm done with this thread. In my 12 years here and on twitter, I don't think I have ever been so discouraged with how the people I surround myself with think about the world. I honestly thought that an opinion like this would cause so much consternation. The phrases woke and cancel culture have rotted our collective empathy and made us less tolerant and more cynical, frankly it's frightening.
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MIR, open up your mind, stop being mad about everything, looking under every rock for reasons to be aggrieved isn't great for anyone's mental health and it is poisonous to our society, if you care about such things.
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But people do understand why he feels the way he does. He wrote an entire article about it. And if they read the article and still don’t understand, that may be a sign it wasn’t a very good article. But I though he made his position and underlying rationale pretty clear. Regardless just because people strongly disagree with him doesn’t mean they’re ignorant.
I don’t think I agree with the article, but that doesn’t mean I don’t have any respect for him or think he doesn’t have a right to say it or anything. I don’t even know the guy.
I didn't use the word ignorant nor did I intimate it, you're assigning an argument to me that I did not make, just like the people insisting that he's calling people who wear those wigs racists.
My simple point is that people shouldn't have their confusion or fear...
Maybe I misunderstood what you were talking about when you brought up people manifesting their confusion one way or the other. I thought you meant that people disagreeing with the article fundamentally didn't understand the author's point.
I don't think anyone in this thread has really gone wild one way or the other besides wacky, and well, it's wackycat. FWIW, I think you and him are the only ones who have used the term "woke" when discussing the article.
I'm genuinely sorry if I said anything that contributed to your discouraged outlook on this.
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MIR pretty much called me a white honky when I first brought this up. Some of you are better at articulating your opinions than I am. I’m having a really hard time believing this is the most disappointed he’s ever been with his internet friends. For someone who doesn’t care either way. I’m sorry too, MIR. But you’ve never had an opinion you’ve never backed down from before, so I don’t know why we do this song and dance all the time.
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Also, overall, my point was to blast the Star that has went next level the past 5 years with some of these opinion pieces they promote. I guess it’s a good business model to promote what’s trending, but people have been reaching a lot these days. Brooke Pryor with Tyreek, pushing to change the Chiefs name, looking for ppl in KC who attended the rally (who didn’t riot) to expose them, etc. I’m not a trumper by any means, but there’s been a shift in coverage, & it’s blasting every person on earth who doesn’t think left. That was my point all along. It was just one of the many Twitter posts I viewed on the reg these days.
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MIR, open up your mind, stop being mad about everything, looking under every rock for reasons to be aggrieved isn't great for anyone's mental health and it is poisonous to our society, if you care about such things.
Irony meters around the universe just exploded.
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Wacky shut up. MIR whether you know it or not I love all people. They just need to be good people. Imo that was a stupid ass cheap opinion piece by someone looking to get people talking or stir the pot/pit. He/she because I still haven’t looked again if the opinion piece was done by a male or female was absolutely absurd
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MIR, open up your mind, stop being mad about everything, looking under every rock for reasons to be aggrieved isn't great for anyone's mental health and it is poisonous to our society, if you care about such things.
Irony meters around the universe just exploded.
I used his own quote against him, Chings. That’s the irony.
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The columnist should've anticipated that many would react to the column with dismissal or objection and cite Mahomes endorsing the hy-vee wigs as authority.
If I was the columnist, I'd have structured the column differently to help preemptively address that. I'd start with being more descriptive about the immediate event that's prompting it, and it sounds like that was the teacher getting an afro wig and makeshifting stuff to make it part of a Mahomes costume, and describing my initial objection to needlessly using such a wig that is seemingly so associated with a race. I'd then acknowledge that readers will cite Mahomes' endorsement and own branding of a somewhat similar thing and first distinguish the two and note that I wouldn't expect people to find as much issue with the latter, before stating why I think even the Mahomes-branded wig/headband combos are problematic and that Mahomes shouldn't have gone along with them. Then bring it all back home to that I think the use of anything that involves using a different race or culture's natural characteristics for a costume is offensive.
Me personally, I don't find the Mahomes-endorsed wig/headband combos problematic but until this came up, I didn't think or know that his irl hairstyle was an afro or even had elements of an afro. It's always looked to me like he's bitten the style of lily white puka shell steve dave, but with a headband instead of a visor.
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It's always looked to me like he's bitten they style of lily white puka shell steve dave, but with a headband instead of a visor.
:love:
Cow-tattoo Steve Dave is the best.
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Fascinating stuff, herein.
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Is the problem that it's a wig? If a white kid has his actual hair cut that way, do people see that as problematic, too?
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the problem is the afro wig.
if the problem was the marketed mahomes hair/bandana combo, the author would have written this article on halloween in 2018 or 2019 or 2020 when social media was flooded with kids wearing it.
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5 pages and counting worth of play on this.
'grats Wacks
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sticky situation. I understand both sides of the argument. If it were me, I think I would just steer clear. Like I don't feel such a strong desire to emulate Pat that I would do something that i know would be perceived as offensive or problematic by a non insubstantial amount of the population. If it really did matter that much to me to dress up as Pat, then I guess i would just wear a helmet.
Otherwise, pick a different player to dress up as. you'll be fine, its just a costume.
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sticky situation. I understand both sides of the argument. If it were me, I think I would just steer clear. Like I don't feel such a strong desire to emulate Pat that I would do something that i know would be perceived as offensive or problematic by a non insubstantial amount of the population. If it really did matter that much to me to dress up as Pat, then I guess i would just wear a helmet.
Otherwise, pick a different player to dress up as. you'll be fine, its just a costume.
Why is pat off limits but other players aren't?
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Did not read the article or the whole thread, but there’s obv a big difference between mimicking Mahomes’s hairstyle and mimicking a “black person’s” hairstyle. If the wig is specifically supposed to look like Mahomes’s hair it’s AOK with me. Like someone said, Mahomes is already essentially branding it for goodness sakes.
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sticky situation. I understand both sides of the argument. If it were me, I think I would just steer clear. Like I don't feel such a strong desire to emulate Pat that I would do something that i know would be perceived as offensive or problematic by a non insubstantial amount of the population. If it really did matter that much to me to dress up as Pat, then I guess i would just wear a helmet.
Otherwise, pick a different player to dress up as. you'll be fine, its just a costume.
Why is pat off limits but other players aren't?
Sorry I just meant like pick a player that you could dress up as without having to do anything that would be perceived as problematic
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the problem is the afro wig.
if the problem was the marketed mahomes hair/bandana combo, the author would have written this article on halloween in 2018 or 2019 or 2020 when social media was flooded with kids wearing it.
He should have @mahomes in this case for signing up for it (for a charity btw). He failed to mention this. Good luck telling bumpkins from the Midwest what’s racist or not (most don’t have the presentiaged knowledge you have). Teach was just trying to support their home team.
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Sorry I just meant like pick a player that you could dress up as without having to do anything that would be perceived as problematic
our country is so mumped up.
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I change my mind. I want it to be racist now. Woof!
https://twitter.com/RealBBQDom/status/1362060057240875009?s=20
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What in the actual eff...
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What in the actual eff...
I know. That backyard area is pathetic.
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Holy crap
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Yeah true on second thought let's all phase the wigs out. :blindfold:
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I have since changed my stance and apologize for saying the wigs are appropriate.
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kinda looks like the bad guy from megamind (https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/yandere/images/7/70/Tighten_angry.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/220/height/220?cb=20150519210339)
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Oh it's a series
https://youtu.be/dU4B9EGlf3I
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I am speechless
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If that guy is the teacher the article was written about, then I take back everything I said.
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At the very least can you see how a rational person can be offended by this?
Honestly, a lot of white people can't be trusted to play it cool, a lot of people see us nothing more than caricatures. I mean Patrick sounds like Kermit, but would you be surprised to see this guy cosplaying Lamar Jackson and jive talking?
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I just have a difficult time not sympathizing with a school teacher who tried to scrap together a costume for spirit day. The circumstance and intent of the person matters.
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At the very least can you see how a rational person can be offended by this?
Honestly, a lot of white people can't be trusted to play it cool, a lot of people see us nothing more than caricatures. I mean Patrick sounds like Kermit, but would you be surprised to see this guy cosplaying Lamar Jackson and jive talking?
I definitely can, but I guess my point was this garbage below that I’m about to post. I think we’re kinda going crazy here. These two parents who adopted this child own a dance studio.
https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1362090110615842818?s=21
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I just have a difficult time not sympathizing with a school teacher who tried to scrap together a costume for spirit day. The circumstance and intent of the person matters.
Cool, so we're going to lump this shuck & jive Charlie in with the teacher to rehash this all over again. Cool.
You acting like this dude was hung on the town square is off putting to me. He had no consequences other than being forced to hear the opinion of some of his students and a newspaper employee. The editorial didn't question the teachers intent. Good intent doesn't absolve anyone from hearing a different point of view. I wish you felt the need to stand up for the person who actually received direct blowback because he had the nerve to publicly offer an opinion that made white people uncomfortable.
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MIR, I honestly don’t think you care about the writer or did before this piece. I appreciate your feedback tho. We have work to do!
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At the very least can you see how a rational person can be offended by this?
Honestly, a lot of white people can't be trusted to play it cool, a lot of people see us nothing more than caricatures. I mean Patrick sounds like Kermit, but would you be surprised to see this guy cosplaying Lamar Jackson and jive talking?
I definitely can, but I guess my point was this garbage below that I’m about to post. I think we’re kinda going crazy here. These two parents who adopted this child own a dance studio.
https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1362090110615842818?s=21
A couple of things here
1. Tariq Nasheed is a rage peddling eff face. He, like literally every single person who has posted any opinion on twitter ever, will have people agree with him. However, he also has a ton of black people in his mentions that can't stand him. That idiot only speaks for himself. You can find any opinion on anything you would ever want.
2. This nice couple didn't do anything wrong here, but if you're interested in progress and seeing things a different way, ask yourself why those people putting that kid in tap shoes COULD offend anyone. I'm guessing that you don't know the historical context, and I know for a fact those people don't, otherwise they wouldn't have put that video on social media. I see that video and I think it's a bad look, but I would give those people grace, try to educate them and hope they take the lesson, and don't be defensive about it, but everyone ain't me.
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:thumbs: Fair enough and I agree.
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MIR, I remember you saying you hated Dear Evan Hansen because the characters were self-serving and every interaction felt transactional. But it seems like here you are suggesting this couple should not share an exciting moment for their family solely because of how it could be perceived by strangers on social media?
I appreciate you saying that YOU as one of the warm and enlightened distant observers would extend some grace before judging too harshly, but why on earth should that not be the minimum standard for every person who doesn't know a single thing about this family? Part of the irony of your statement is that you're suggesting the couple should be aware of the history of racial relations in the US before adopting a black child (not saying I disagree), but that people can legitimately pass judgment on this family who don't know anything about them beyond like a 10 second video clip.
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MIR, I remember you saying you hated Dear Evan Hansen because the characters were self-serving and every interaction felt transactional. But it seems like here you are suggesting this couple should not share an exciting moment for their family solely because of how it could be perceived by strangers on social media?
I appreciate you saying that YOU as one of the warm and enlightened distant observers would extend some grace before judging too harshly, but why on earth should that not be the minimum standard for every person who doesn't know a single thing about this family? Part of the irony of your statement is that you're suggesting the couple should be aware of the history of racial relations in the US before adopting a black child (not saying I disagree), but that people can legitimately pass judgment on this family who don't know anything about them beyond like a 10 second video clip.
1. Amazing memory on my Dear Evan Hansen review, nailed it.
2. I don't think they should have held the post back because of how it would be perceived on social media. I think if they knew the historical context they likely would have thought twice about not leaving that as an intimate moment for their family only. I know that's a pretty narrow distinction, but it's one nonetheless.
3. I do think the standard should be to cut these people some slack, but I'm not going to get all upset at people who don't, in most cases anyway, like with everything else people can get extreme with their assessments and I couldn't roll with that. White people consistently want the benefit of the doubt but as a whole minorities are given reasons literally every single day to absolutely not believe that white people on the whole don't have our best interests in mind and absolutely don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. After I post this I'm going to run today's headlines in a news aggregation app I use and I bet you I'll find a minimum of five headlines that tell me that, no I shouldn't automatically give the benefit of the doubt. I personally choose to do so because I think it's a miserable experience to always get pissed about white people doing things they may be completely unaware that are harmful. I think this is a product of spending my entire life being the only black dude more than anything else. If I grew up in NYC, DC, or in the deep South, I'd probably be a lot less forgiving.
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https://in.news.yahoo.com/morgan-wallen-no-1-album-134841825.html
https://inews.co.uk/news/real-life/buying-a-house-with-a-white-man-privilege-874473?ito=smart-news
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/reeks-racism-latinos-blast-az-republican-who-said-americans-be-n1258190
https://dailycaller.com/2021/02/18/university-wyoming-racist-black-history-zoom-pornographic/
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/muslim-man-thrown-off-national-express-coach-after-passengers-complained-they-felt-uncomfortable-a3131651.html
https://www.rawstory.com/indiana-house-chaos/
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/538139-iowa-republicans-seek-to-cut-funding-for-schools-with-1619-project-in
https://www.rawstory.com/arizona-republican/
Didn't even finish the feed and I won't post the story about the black man shot by cops in California while jaywalking, or the guy being punched while handcuffed by and sat on by 3 nyc cops, or the story of black professors leaving Harvard because they keep getting denied tenure.