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Title: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on January 17, 2021, 01:42:57 PM
count from worldometers, ends at midnight 3/31.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on January 17, 2021, 05:34:32 PM
is no one voting or is there a problem with the poll functionality?
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2021, 05:38:07 PM
It’s too depressing now sys please stop.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on January 17, 2021, 05:46:26 PM
It’s too depressing now sys please stop.

you can choose under 520k.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 17, 2021, 05:47:40 PM
It’s too depressing now sys please stop.
I said that after like the 3rd one but sys gonna sys
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: nicname on January 17, 2021, 06:23:09 PM
Kind of random, but thread adjacent thought; In 1918 the flu took out 675,000 Americans, the majority of which were young and able-bodied or children. That's .654% of the population dead.

For covid death numbers to be as bad proportionately more than 2.16 million would have to perish.

Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on January 17, 2021, 07:20:26 PM
eff!  i screwed this one up.  numbers posted should have been through the end of march.


fortunately, not many have voted yet.  anyone that has voted can change their vote in the comments due to this management error.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2021, 08:40:02 PM
This is ghoulish and I've never done it, the only reason I'm commenting now is because this seems slightly hypocritical after you got after 'stone for him telling jokes about the hillbilly insurrection.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 17, 2021, 09:22:03 PM
End of March? Should hit 580k with no problem. A couple of mitigating factors could be roll out of the chips and the fact that the virus has already burned its path through a lot of nursing homes (all of the nursing homes in the Smallville area have been heavily hit).
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on January 17, 2021, 09:32:10 PM
End of March? Should hit 580k with no problem. A couple of mitigating factors could be roll out of the chips and the fact that the virus has already burned its path through a lot of nursing homes (all of the nursing homes in the Smallville area have been heavily hit).

that's what makes it interesting.  i think there should be a very pronounced reduction in the death rate by the end of march.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 17, 2021, 09:37:32 PM
Kind of random, but thread adjacent thought; In 1918 the flu took out 675,000 Americans, the majority of which were young and able-bodied or children. That's .654% of the population dead.

For covid death numbers to be as bad proportionately more than 2.16 million would have to perish.
It would be really interesting to see a comparison of the number of years of life lost for both pandemics (population adjusted).
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on January 19, 2021, 09:47:06 PM
just tonight and tomorrow morning left to vote.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 19, 2021, 09:47:54 PM
I’m abstaining.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: 8manpick on January 20, 2021, 08:47:02 AM
People are surprisingly optimistic!
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on January 20, 2021, 08:16:05 PM
People are surprisingly optimistic!

a lot in the center bin, but only one vote for less.  i voted center bin, but i think lower is more likely than higher.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 25, 2021, 04:28:17 PM
431K. 12 states with over 10K deaths. New cases and deaths in Kansas seem to be trending down.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 31, 2021, 10:17:42 AM
We’ve passed 450k by the end of January
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on January 31, 2021, 10:21:46 AM
We’ve passed 450k by the end of January

i think we're going to see a pretty dramatic reduction in daily deaths in february.  if i could adjust my vote down, i would.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 31, 2021, 10:47:13 AM
We’ve passed 450k by the end of January

i think we're going to see a pretty dramatic reduction in daily deaths in february.  if i could adjust my vote down, i would.
Hope that you are right. Between the most vulnerable getting their chips in the next few weeks and the fact that the virus has taken what it wanted to harvest from a lot of nursing homes, this could be the case.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 09, 2021, 07:57:32 AM
Kansas is over 4.1K deaths.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 17, 2021, 07:55:19 AM
500K US deaths. 15 US states with >10,000 deaths.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us)
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on February 17, 2021, 08:38:34 AM
presumably the last big mile marker we'll hit.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: cfbandyman on February 17, 2021, 08:47:58 AM
IDK, the deaths (thankfully) came down a lot this week, and if that trend really holds, that's good, but it just doesn't take all that long for it to add up. I think we end up at 600k (though barely over) sometime near the end of the year.

The good thing, the combo of more vaccines and more people just straight having got it are definitely going to put the fire out pretty quick.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 17, 2021, 08:50:40 AM
I think we stop seeing deaths during the summer. Vaccinated people aren't dying.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 17, 2021, 09:14:34 AM
I think we stop seeing deaths during the summer. Vaccinated people aren't dying.
:thumbs:
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 25, 2021, 09:15:17 AM
California now over 50K deaths
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 26, 2021, 12:04:54 PM
past 520K. 540 - 560 looks like a safe bet at this point
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: 8manpick on February 26, 2021, 12:51:30 PM
Might break 600
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 26, 2021, 12:54:07 PM
Might break 600
7 day moving average is around 2,000 deaths per day so deaths would need to start trending back up for that to happen (I suck at stats but I think that is right).
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on February 26, 2021, 01:57:41 PM
past 520K. 540 - 560 looks like a safe bet at this point

yeah, under 540 looks pretty impossible now.  i thought deaths would trail off a little faster.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: 8manpick on February 26, 2021, 03:01:04 PM
Might break 600
7 day moving average is around 2,000 deaths per day so deaths would need to start trending back up for that to happen (I suck at stats but I think that is right).
That would be great. So if it stays flat (seemingly worst case) we’re looking at 580+, but not 600
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on March 09, 2021, 11:36:48 PM
went over 540k today.  we're almost certain to get over 560k before the end of the month.  i'm a little surprised at how slowly deaths have come down, especially given that vaccine distribution has surprised to the upside.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: bucket on March 09, 2021, 11:48:15 PM
went over 540k today.  we're almost certain to get over 560k before the end of the month.  i'm a little surprised at how slowly deaths have come down, especially given that vaccine distribution has surprised to the upside.

I thought daily death totals were elevated due to backlogged deaths being added.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on March 10, 2021, 12:08:09 AM
yeah, there's a lag in death reporting, but afaik, there isn't anything about that lag that has recently changed.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 10, 2021, 08:23:44 AM
yeah, there's a lag in death reporting, but afaik, there isn't anything about that lag that has recently changed.
There are people who got infected in January that are still hospitalized so the lag in time from infection to death plays a role - probably more than time from death to time that death is reported. Per COVID Tracking Project, we are about to drop under 40K Americans hospitalized. Smallville, KS hospital has not had a positive test in their lab for over a week.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: cfbandyman on March 10, 2021, 08:31:33 AM
yeah, there's a lag in death reporting, but afaik, there isn't anything about that lag that has recently changed.
There are people who got infected in January that are still hospitalized so the lag in time from infection to death plays a role - probably more than time from death to time that death is reported. Per COVID Tracking Project, we are about to drop under 40K Americans hospitalized. Smallville, KS hospital has not had a positive test in their lab for over a week.

Yeah, it's sort of the reverse situation when this all started and all the pandemic deniers were making fun of "it has only like 15 people, you idiots!" and then they had to shut up and leave gE forever like a month later when the deaths came by the hundred and then thousands a day, death, is not instant with this disease, and they never could understand that. Realistically the deaths we're seeing are caused by infections at least 2 weeks, but more likely 4-6 weeks ago as you pointed out.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 22, 2021, 01:13:36 PM
looks like were going to land in the 560 - 580K slot.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: cfbandyman on March 28, 2021, 02:29:22 PM
looks like were going to land in the 560 - 580K slot.

Call it
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on March 28, 2021, 02:39:16 PM
congratulations to the 560-580'ers.  the majority were too optimistic on this one.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on March 28, 2021, 02:42:31 PM
maybe also a good thread to congratulate italy on joining the six figger club.  to :sdeek: at brazil and to wonder that we didn't hear more about eastern europe as they went from a spring success story to a rough ridin' morgue in the fall/winter.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 28, 2021, 05:48:33 PM
congratulations to the 560-580'ers.  the majority were too optimistic on this one.
:blush:
Gonna take a (tragic) victory lap on this one.

Curious to know what happened in Czech Republic. They were very early adopters of masks and had great numbers last spring.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2021, 05:52:33 PM
congratulations to the 560-580'ers.  the majority were too optimistic on this one.
:blush:
Gonna take a (tragic) victory lap on this one.

Curious to know what happened in Czech Republic. They were very early adopters of masks and had great numbers last spring.
They were discussed in another thread. They stopped wearing masks and opened everything up in the summer.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2021, 06:18:07 PM
Can I crap post a stupid take here? If masks produced the same outcomes as the AZ vaccine, I'd be happier today.

I mean that would make masks pretty goddam effective for the price, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: 8manpick on March 28, 2021, 09:35:19 PM
I was too pessimistic! Pleasantly surprised
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: waks on March 28, 2021, 11:01:55 PM
So does this thing hit 600k when it's all said and done? Has to right?
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 29, 2021, 08:02:35 AM
So does this thing hit 600k when it's all said and done? Has to right?
yes
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 28, 2021, 01:38:46 PM
18 states with over 10K deaths. Kansas at 5,000 deaths. Brazil closing in on 400K. Jair is not gonna let himself get lapped by DJT in the Covid death race.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on April 28, 2021, 06:26:01 PM
it's amazing how many countries are getting close to having had 1 out of every 500 residents die from covid over the last fourteen months.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Cire on April 28, 2021, 08:40:32 PM
it's amazing how many countries are getting close to having had 1 out of every 500 residents die from covid over the last fourteen months.
Yeah but how many of those people got hit by a train while also having covid?


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Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 29, 2021, 01:38:26 PM
it's amazing how many countries are getting close to having had 1 out of every 500 residents die from covid over the last fourteen months.
Yeah but how many of those people got hit by a train while also having covid?


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Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 17, 2021, 08:24:03 AM
600,000 US deaths.

7 day average of new cases is 31K - lowest since last June.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on August 19, 2021, 08:27:52 PM
Brazil closing in on 400K. Jair is not gonna let himself get lapped by DJT in the Covid death race.

looks like it's gonna take brazil a lot longer than originally projected to overtake the u.s. in deaths (572k to 643k right now).  of course if india would have gotten a good count they'd have put the record out of reach.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 20, 2021, 02:26:46 PM
Brazil closing in on 400K. Jair is not gonna let himself get lapped by DJT in the Covid death race.

looks like it's gonna take brazil a lot longer than originally projected to overtake the u.s. in deaths (572k to 643k right now).  of course if india would have gotten a good count they'd have put the record out of reach.
AntiVaxx nation wants the title belt so bad. We defy you to come and take it from us, Jair!!

Seriously, what is happening in Central and South America is really bad. Would guess that the numbers are significantly undercounted.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 20, 2021, 02:29:33 PM
600,000 US deaths.

7 day average of new cases is 31K - lowest since last June.
Oh man, those carefree pre-Delta, late spring days...
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 26, 2021, 06:41:07 PM
US passes 650k today per worldometers. Gonna be over 1k daily for a while as the delta wave is reaped.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on August 26, 2021, 06:42:48 PM
good thing we didn't have a poll active this summer.  delta would have really mumped with my calculations.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 04, 2021, 05:50:30 PM
That's pretty interesting. Would have expected South America to look worse. Will be interesting to see more complete figures about India at some point. Mortality actually going down in Oceania due to the pandemic.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on September 04, 2021, 05:52:51 PM
mexico having a ton of unrecorded surplus deaths fits my anecdotal info.
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 04, 2021, 06:36:40 PM
mexico having a ton of unrecorded surplus deaths fits my anecdotal info.
Are you at liberty to share the anecdotes?
Title: Re: death poll 9.0, the last (probably) death poll
Post by: sys on September 04, 2021, 08:28:43 PM
mexico having a ton of unrecorded surplus deaths fits my anecdotal info.
Are you at liberty to share the anecdotes?

i think i've shared quite a few over the last year.  just a surprisingly (to me) large number of mostly distant relatives and acquaintances of my wife who have been seriously ill and/or died.