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Title: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: nicname on November 08, 2020, 08:00:17 AM
It’s the real deal guys.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Cire on November 08, 2020, 09:46:29 AM
Defense was great. Even without tylin Wallace that is a really good offense


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Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: HugeCat on May 27, 2022, 07:19:47 AM
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/1530157758888218624?s=20&t=jZ6sqxP7115e-W-_t-iYKQ
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: HugeCat on May 27, 2022, 07:22:56 AM
It's pleasant inside the American Legion in Marysville, Kansas, as Joe Klanderman slides onto a black cushy stool about an hour before the start of the Catbacker event on Thursday. We're surrounded by aged wood, old beverage signage nailed to the white walls, and slick wooden bar that later will be occupied by regulars.
It’s like reading an Ernest Hemingway novel. Serious question, how long can we afford to keep D Scott on the payroll?
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: HugeCat on May 27, 2022, 09:48:34 AM
We got seven defensive backs in the transfer portal, Klanderman only mentions four as contributors. Frustrating that he didn’t name names, here are my guesses.

CB Jordan Wright - Fullerton CC
I know we've got two guys coming into the cornerback room. One is as football sharp of a guy as I've been around, and is really, really into football, and just got kind of missed in the recruiting process and went the junior college route. He came here and he had a tremendous array of offers and interest, and I think he ultimately chose K-State because he feels like this is a place when he can be developed the best and where he fits into the system the best. I couldn't be more excited about him.

CB Joshua Hayes - Virginia
or
CB Justice Clemons - Tyler CC
The other cornerback is, other than Julius Brents, probably provides – we don't have a bunch of big guys in the room and this guy is a big guy. He's a 400-pound bench guy and looks like a man. He's going to bring some physicality to that room. He's teammates with another player who was on our roster who we have a lot of respect for. I'm excited for where he's at.

S Shawn Robinson - Missouri
In the safety room, there's two guys there also.
We addressed that with a kid who transferred from a four-year school. He's a guy who has a lot of corner-type characteristics but is a safety at heart. He has range, physicality, super high football IQ.

CB Drake Cheatum - Prairie View A&M
The other kid we brought in at safety is a teammate of somebody else who was in our program a year ago, and he's going to have one year left to play and he's ready to roll.
Again, the common theme is all these guys really love football, really are super football smart, and I think he will be ready to compete right away in August for a lot of playing time. He maybe wasn't as heavily recruited as he probably should've been because he really dominated where he was, and I think he's going to be along the Reggie Stubblefield lines as a guy who can come in and be a little bit of a thermometer in the program and change some things. I'm excited about all five of those guys.

That leaves 2 that he didn’t mention.
CB Javion Carr - Arizona
&
S Kobe Savage - Tyler CC
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Winters on May 27, 2022, 10:38:13 AM
I'm very excited for the season  :lynchmob:
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Trim on May 28, 2022, 01:20:38 AM
It's pleasant inside the American Legion in Marysville, Kansas, as Joe Klanderman slides onto a black cushy stool about an hour before the start of the Catbacker event on Thursday. We're surrounded by aged wood, old beverage signage nailed to the white walls, and slick wooden bar that later will be occupied by regulars.
It’s like reading an Ernest Hemingway novel. Serious question, how long can we afford to keep D Scott on the payroll?

4 eva.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: HugeCat on June 01, 2022, 07:08:15 PM

Sounds like Shawn Robinson has been moved to the Sam linebacker position. So this is probably


CB Joshua Hayes - Virginia
In the safety room, there's two guys there also.
We addressed that with a kid who transferred from a four-year school. He's a guy who has a lot of corner-type characteristics but is a safety at heart. He has range, physicality, super high football IQ.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Spracne on June 01, 2022, 07:16:24 PM
I just want to take a moment to congratulate nic on an excellent thread title.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on June 01, 2022, 08:34:55 PM
I just want to take a moment to congratulate nic on an excellent thread title.  :thumbs:

a saccharine title if ever there was
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: HugeCat on July 13, 2022, 04:53:33 PM
The MOB is back
https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1547286143846203394?s=20&t=_8ulmpNL9rwN0b3CwukUfA
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: HugeCat on August 16, 2022, 06:56:50 AM
Is Dewey Cheatum going to get the start at the Jack safety?
[tweet]1559233008267399174[/tweet]?s=20&t=YVkFj_9IUkfCsDNgPjKlpg
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 16, 2022, 07:35:31 AM
Iiiiiiii want Klandy!!
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: HugeCat on August 17, 2022, 01:21:14 PM
With all the concern over safety position and the talk about transfers filling those spots, is TJ Smith being overlooked?
https://twitter.com/Thekstatefan2/status/1559964830835978240?s=20&t=anlshwW6RlthlDhc8jug
https://twitter.com/Thekstatefan2/status/1425834082051764224?s=20&t=anlshwW6RlthlDhc8jugIQ
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Cire on August 17, 2022, 01:49:40 PM
I think I read that they really like Savage.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Cire on August 17, 2022, 01:50:30 PM
Also I think I read that we're the only team with Preseason 1st team All B12 at each level of defense.

but IDK
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: HugeCat on September 01, 2022, 04:03:02 PM
https://youtu.be/vHadYnuzWk8 (https://youtu.be/vHadYnuzWk8)
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: MakeItRain on September 26, 2022, 05:10:44 PM
https://twitter.com/Big12Conference/status/1574444879027085314
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: pissclams on September 26, 2022, 05:34:48 PM
i watch every game wishing he’d add a 1 after the 2 on his jersey, also I love hoe kobe plays
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: nicname on November 12, 2022, 11:06:40 PM
How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: catastrophe on November 12, 2022, 11:12:37 PM
I have no doubt he’s great at his job, but isn’t Kleiman considered the defensive genius? Could be kind of an Andy Reid/Eric Bieniemy situation.

I could also be wrong.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: MakeItRain on November 13, 2022, 12:09:40 AM
How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?

You don't really get into a bidding war for coordinators. Just like Jim Knowles with Oklahoma State last season, if one of the big boys want to give your coordinator $2 million, you tip your hat, wish him luck, and believe in the other coaches in the room who helped with the game plans
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: wetwillie on November 13, 2022, 07:54:05 AM
How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?

You don't really get into a bidding war for coordinators. Just like Jim Knowles with Oklahoma State last season, if one of the big boys want to give your coordinator $2 million, you tip your hat, wish him luck, and believe in the other coaches in the room who helped with the game plans

Klieman is the secret sauce on defense, he will be able to replace Klandy if he gets poached.  Klein on the other hand…
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: nicname on November 13, 2022, 09:12:50 AM
How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?

You don't really get into a bidding war for coordinators. Just like Jim Knowles with Oklahoma State last season, if one of the big boys want to give your coordinator $2 million, you tip your hat, wish him luck, and believe in the other coaches in the room who helped with the game plans

Klieman is the secret sauce on defense, he will be able to replace Klandy if he gets poached.  Klein on the other hand…

I think we pay Klein. He’s our next head coach.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: MakeItRain on November 13, 2022, 02:05:52 PM
How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?

You don't really get into a bidding war for coordinators. Just like Jim Knowles with Oklahoma State last season, if one of the big boys want to give your coordinator $2 million, you tip your hat, wish him luck, and believe in the other coaches in the room who helped with the game plans

Klieman is the secret sauce on defense, he will be able to replace Klandy if he gets poached.  Klein on the other hand…

I think we pay Klein. He’s our next head coach.

I'm confident that Klein is only leaving to be a head coach, I don't have that same confidence about Klanderman.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: nicname on November 13, 2022, 03:04:41 PM
How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?

You don't really get into a bidding war for coordinators. Just like Jim Knowles with Oklahoma State last season, if one of the big boys want to give your coordinator $2 million, you tip your hat, wish him luck, and believe in the other coaches in the room who helped with the game plans

Klieman is the secret sauce on defense, he will be able to replace Klandy if he gets poached.  Klein on the other hand…

I think we pay Klein. He’s our next head coach.

I'm confident that Klein is only leaving to be a head coach, I don't have that same confidence about Klanderman.

Yes. How long until his profile surpasses what Hazelton’s was when he left for Mich St?  It’s getting close imo. Maybe one more year of success.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: KITNfury on November 13, 2022, 03:09:56 PM
How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?

You don't really get into a bidding war for coordinators. Just like Jim Knowles with Oklahoma State last season, if one of the big boys want to give your coordinator $2 million, you tip your hat, wish him luck, and believe in the other coaches in the room who helped with the game plans

Klieman is the secret sauce on defense, he will be able to replace Klandy if he gets poached.  Klein on the other hand…

I think we pay Klein. He’s our next head coach.

I'm confident that Klein is only leaving to be a head coach, I don't have that same confidence about Klanderman.

Yes. How long until his profile surpasses what Hazelton’s was when he left for Mich St?  It’s getting close imo. Maybe one more year of success.
Without comparing metrics, feels like our defense is much better this year than any other during Klieman's tenure. Hard to say how much of that is talent vs coaching. Two shutouts this year with several other games with less than 14 allowed is pretty good.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Cire on November 13, 2022, 03:38:09 PM
We have nfl talent on the defense at all three levels. Makes a big difference. Also a lot of experience


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Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: KITNfury on November 13, 2022, 05:22:24 PM
We have nfl talent on the defense at all three levels. Makes a big difference. Also a lot of experience


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Agreed. Don't want to use that to degrade Klanderman, either. Defense is pretty damn good this year, will be interesting how he does next year after losing key pieces(assuming he's still here).
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2022, 05:55:46 PM
Daniel Green is NFL talent?
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Cire on November 13, 2022, 05:58:12 PM
Daniel Green is NFL talent?
I think he will get a chance for sure


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Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 13, 2022, 08:11:13 PM
How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?

You don't really get into a bidding war for coordinators. Just like Jim Knowles with Oklahoma State last season, if one of the big boys want to give your coordinator $2 million, you tip your hat, wish him luck, and believe in the other coaches in the room who helped with the game plans

Klieman is the secret sauce on defense, he will be able to replace Klandy if he gets poached.  Klein on the other hand…

I think we pay Klein. He’s our next head coach.

I'm confident that Klein is only leaving to be a head coach, I don't have that same confidence about Klanderman.

Yes. How long until his profile surpasses what Hazelton’s was when he left for Mich St?  It’s getting close imo. Maybe one more year of success.

I think Klein is smart enough to know he will need several years of successful OCing before he's ready for a head coaching position.  I also think he knows how incredibly lucky and grateful he should be to have his first coaching gig be at a P5 program.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: wetwillie on November 13, 2022, 08:33:20 PM
How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?

You don't really get into a bidding war for coordinators. Just like Jim Knowles with Oklahoma State last season, if one of the big boys want to give your coordinator $2 million, you tip your hat, wish him luck, and believe in the other coaches in the room who helped with the game plans

Klieman is the secret sauce on defense, he will be able to replace Klandy if he gets poached.  Klein on the other hand…

I think we pay Klein. He’s our next head coach.

I'm confident that Klein is only leaving to be a head coach, I don't have that same confidence about Klanderman.

Yes. How long until his profile surpasses what Hazelton’s was when he left for Mich St?  It’s getting close imo. Maybe one more year of success.

I think Klein is smart enough to know he will need several years of successful OCing before he's ready for a head coaching position.  I also think he knows how incredibly lucky and grateful he should be to have his first coaching gig be at a P5 program.

He’s not lucky, he put his nuts on the table when Messingham was let go and went and took the OC position.  I think he could have a P5 HC job offer as early as next year.
Title: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: catastrophe on November 13, 2022, 08:45:17 PM
How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?

You don't really get into a bidding war for coordinators. Just like Jim Knowles with Oklahoma State last season, if one of the big boys want to give your coordinator $2 million, you tip your hat, wish him luck, and believe in the other coaches in the room who helped with the game plans

Klieman is the secret sauce on defense, he will be able to replace Klandy if he gets poached.  Klein on the other hand…

I think we pay Klein. He’s our next head coach.

I'm confident that Klein is only leaving to be a head coach, I don't have that same confidence about Klanderman.

Yes. How long until his profile surpasses what Hazelton’s was when he left for Mich St?  It’s getting close imo. Maybe one more year of success.

I think Klein is smart enough to know he will need several years of successful OCing before he's ready for a head coaching position.  I also think he knows how incredibly lucky and grateful he should be to have his first coaching gig be at a P5 program.

He’s not lucky, he put his nuts on the table when Messingham was let go and went and took the OC position.  I think he could have a P5 HC job offer as early as next year.
But he could gamble for the Venzy route and hold out for big bucks instead of just any shot at the next level.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: KITNfury on November 13, 2022, 09:20:19 PM
How much are we going to have to pay to keep Klanderman?

You don't really get into a bidding war for coordinators. Just like Jim Knowles with Oklahoma State last season, if one of the big boys want to give your coordinator $2 million, you tip your hat, wish him luck, and believe in the other coaches in the room who helped with the game plans

Klieman is the secret sauce on defense, he will be able to replace Klandy if he gets poached.  Klein on the other hand…

I think we pay Klein. He’s our next head coach.

I'm confident that Klein is only leaving to be a head coach, I don't have that same confidence about Klanderman.

Yes. How long until his profile surpasses what Hazelton’s was when he left for Mich St?  It’s getting close imo. Maybe one more year of success.

I think Klein is smart enough to know he will need several years of successful OCing before he's ready for a head coaching position.  I also think he knows how incredibly lucky and grateful he should be to have his first coaching gig be at a P5 program.

He’s not lucky, he put his nuts on the table when Messingham was let go and went and took the OC position.  I think he could have a P5 HC job offer as early as next year.
I'd be surprised.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: michigancat on November 14, 2022, 06:47:00 AM
There is no way Klein's next job is a P5 head coach*

*anywhere but Kansas State
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: stunted on November 14, 2022, 07:33:37 AM
I say GT put his own nuts on the table, fire Klieman, and lock up Klein for the next 40 years
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Post by: wetwillie on November 14, 2022, 08:14:00 AM
I say GT put his own nuts on the table, fire Klieman, and lock up Klein for the next 40 years

OU did it to Bob we can do it to Klieman
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DQ12 on November 14, 2022, 09:48:42 AM
I think Klein is going to be head coach before Avery Johnson graduates.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 14, 2022, 10:47:43 AM
I think Klein is going to be head coach before Avery Johnson graduates.

I think he will definitely have opportunities somewhere. Whether he takes any, I am not so sure.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 14, 2022, 10:49:21 AM
I think Klein is going to be head coach before Avery Johnson graduates.

Does Kleiman take another job or get fired?
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: wetwillie on November 14, 2022, 10:53:39 AM
I think Klein is going to be head coach before Avery Johnson graduates.

Does Kleiman take another job or get fired?


Retires
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DQ12 on November 14, 2022, 11:19:19 AM
I think Klein is going to be head coach before Avery Johnson graduates.

Does Kleiman take another job or get fired?


Retires
Yes.  And he's rumbled that he expects to retire sooner than later.  Wouldn't be shocked if it was in the next 3-5 years.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: wetwillie on November 14, 2022, 11:26:01 AM
I think Klein is going to be head coach before Avery Johnson graduates.

Does Kleiman take another job or get fired?


Retires
Yes.  And he's rumbled that he expects to retire sooner than later.  Wouldn't be shocked if it was in the next 3-5 years.

Would be nice to keep the band together long enough to get into the first 12 team college football playoff with Avery and then transition the program to Klien.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 14, 2022, 08:43:22 PM
I think Klein is going to be head coach before Avery Johnson graduates.

Does Kleiman take another job or get fired?

Retires
Yes.  And he's rumbled that he expects to retire sooner than later.  Wouldn't be shocked if it was in the next 3-5 years.

Surprised to hear that.  I actually had 'retire' on the list, but decided he was too young . . .  If I could pull it off financially, I like the idea of retiring in my 50's.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: stunted on November 16, 2022, 02:41:43 AM
have many coaches with success retired before 60? we're in good hands at least. klein feels different than all the other hot shot young coaches out there. more substance over style.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DQ12 on November 17, 2022, 08:56:55 AM
have many coaches with success retired before 60? we're in good hands at least. klein feels different than all the other hot shot young coaches out there. more substance over style.
It's pretty rare...Most head football coaches are journeymen who don't stay somewhere longer than 5 or 6 years.  Most (good) head coaches are also complete freaks who are addicted to working and watching film and all that stuff.  If CK isn't one of those freak personalities (and he actually may not be, who knows) then an early retirement wouldn't be that strange.

CK will have made tens of millions from Kansas State by that point.  If he wants to hang it up and kind of be done with the CFB HC grind, I wouldn't blame him or be too surprised.

On the topic of Klanderman, I'll be surprised if he's our DC next year.  I could see some Big Ten or SEC program is going to offer him a bag or he'll be HC of some MAC/Sun Belt school.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2022, 08:58:45 AM
Stoops retired before 60
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DQ12 on November 17, 2022, 09:01:36 AM
Daniel Green is NFL talent?
Maybe.  NFL or not, he's certainly playing at an all-big 12 level.

For all the pub Felix gets (and all of it is well deserved), I think Brents gets overlooked and taken for granted a lot.  Julius Brents is probably on the Mt. Rushmore of K-State CBs.

My theory is that K-State's crappy first half against Texas in the run game had a lot to do with Brents' early ejection.  Easier to stop the run if you have a lockdown corner outside that can matchup with TEs AND Xavier Worthy (in addition to EBD over on the other side).  Plus a pretty good tackler in his own right.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Cire on November 17, 2022, 09:06:44 AM
Brents sets the edge, like an edge defender and he's a freaking corner.  HUGE reason for Texas success running the ball was him not being on the field.  He's been incredible.  His side of the field is locked down.  teams rarely find success against us outside the numbers.  Almost always over the middle or seams.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: nicname on November 17, 2022, 09:18:10 AM
Texas doesn’t beat us w/out the Brents ejection.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: catastrophe on November 17, 2022, 09:59:00 AM
Texas doesn’t beat us w/out the Brents ejection.
I mean a lot of things went wrong for us to lose that game. Just chalk it up to the zaniness of college football and hope karma comes back to the Horns in the KU game.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 17, 2022, 10:01:06 AM
This season is identical to 2003. Don't question the craziness, just enjoy the ride and end goal.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: WildcatNation on November 17, 2022, 11:11:52 AM
I think Brents is pretty easily the best corner we have had in a decade or so. That's saying something with guys like DJamer Reed, Duke Shelley, etc. that are kicking asses in the NFL right now.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 17, 2022, 11:47:17 AM
This season is nothing like 2003. 03 we tripped on our dicks right out of the gate and then got this going in the right direction for the remainder of the season
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2022, 11:51:24 AM
This season is nothing like 2003. 03 we tripped on our dicks right out of the gate and then got this going in the right direction for the remainder of the season

Losing to Tulane could be considered by some to be tripping over your dick. 
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 17, 2022, 11:51:35 AM
This season is nothing like 2003. 03 we tripped on our dicks right out of the gate and then got this going in the right direction for the remainder of the season
:rolleyes: Shocking that BAC would deflect this take! Shocking I tell you!
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 17, 2022, 11:58:33 AM
This season is nothing like 2003. 03 we tripped on our dicks right out of the gate and then got this going in the right direction for the remainder of the season

Losing to Tulane could be considered by some to be tripping over your dick.
2003 we beat a P5 in our non con schedule and tripped on our dicks vs Marshal at home and lost to Texas that year too and then beat undefeated OU in the Big 12 championship game, but nothing close to this year for sure.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: OK_Cat on November 17, 2022, 12:41:36 PM
Jesus, fanning, take it easy on him, he has a family


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Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 17, 2022, 12:45:11 PM
 :lol: :D
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 17, 2022, 01:30:41 PM
This season is nothing like 2003. 03 we tripped on our dicks right out of the gate and then got this going in the right direction for the remainder of the season
:rolleyes: Shocking that BAC would deflect this take! Shocking I tell you!

Yes I’m deflecting your take. Take deflected. We lost 3 in a row, started conference play 0-2 and then won all of our remaining conference games. But yeah, totally same vibe as this season. Thanks as always, galaxy brain
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 17, 2022, 01:44:59 PM
Wow wacky is comparing will howard to jeff schwinn. what a rough ridin' idiot
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 17, 2022, 01:47:18 PM
So we had 3 losses that year and 2 in conference play? Wow!

(https://media.tenor.com/6Ju_FlRfSGUAAAAC/tkt-smart.gif)
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 17, 2022, 02:07:15 PM
Wacky are you not tired? These last few months of you being village idiot on main has been incredibly tiresome to watch I can only imagine how exhausting it must be to live it
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 17, 2022, 02:12:14 PM
Are you not? There's a million similarities there for you to compare and yet you saw ole wacky posting it and had to get all  :curse: over the comparison. Now you look like a jackass and you're bringing up crap from the pit. I think we can case close this one, BAC. Better luck next time.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2022, 02:16:21 PM
This team obviously doesn’t have that 2003 teams swag
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 17, 2022, 02:18:22 PM
Yeah, that year was a blast. It was my Freshman year at K-State. Loved me some Ell.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: MakeItRain on November 17, 2022, 02:47:33 PM
This team obviously doesn’t have that 2003 teams swag

Disagree
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: nicname on November 17, 2022, 03:01:04 PM
This team obviously doesn’t have that 2003 teams swag

They have more. Outside of Ell, Buhl and Thomas Hill 03 wasn’t some swagger factory. This defense alone has swagger in spades
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: MakeItRain on November 17, 2022, 03:36:38 PM
This team obviously doesn’t have that 2003 teams swag

They have more. Outside of Ell, Buhl and Thomas Hill 03 wasn’t some swagger factory. This defense alone has swagger in spades

Exactly
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: ChiComCat on November 17, 2022, 04:01:42 PM
This defense kept 3 P5 teams out of the endzone in regulation (eff Mizzou's garbage TD).  That takes swagger
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: stunted on November 17, 2022, 10:32:07 PM
one thing for sure is the swag this year and in 2003 were not identical as wacky is implying
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 17, 2022, 10:46:28 PM
one thing for sure is the swag this year and in 2003 were not identical as wacky is implying
I never said the “swag” was identical. I said the potential end goal is similar for what’s in front of us. Do your swag off with @wetwillie, sir!
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: stunted on November 17, 2022, 10:53:13 PM
This season is identical to 2003.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 17, 2022, 11:02:36 PM
Let me help you dorks:
 :confused:
-Lost to a bull crap non con team at home
-Beat a P5 opponent in non con play
-lost 2 games in conference and back doored our way into a championship game vs a National title contender.
-Lost to Texas and stepped on our own dicks a ton
-QB rotation due to injury
-Apparently not as swag, but still gets the job done
-Could have a comparable season to 2003 if they win out and shock the nation.

My apologies, fam! :lol:
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: stunted on November 17, 2022, 11:09:54 PM
we could list literally thousands more differences
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 18, 2022, 06:37:38 AM
This season there is no back-dooring our way into a CCG. We were in control of our own destiny the entire way until we lost to Texas, and then the following week got right back in control. That’s a really big distinction in terms of the vibe of how the season is going.

If you can’t understand that (and you most likely can’t) then I’m not sure what to tell you
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2022, 12:45:33 PM
I don't disagree but I do think it needs to be made clear that the 2003 team didn't back door anything, their two conference losses were to south division teams and they beat the holy hell out of the north teams. The championship game was clinched with a conference game left.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: williamthewildcat on November 20, 2022, 03:37:39 AM
That pass to Davin Dennis(?) to close out the Marshall game. ugh.

But what a rough ridin' ride that season was.

Arrowhead with my son and it was cold. 11th row, parallel with the goal line in the lower bowl. Sims tipped away a sure OU TD. McGill's EZ pick. And the cherry on top. That Ted Sims pick6. I was a much younger man then.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Katpappy on November 20, 2022, 05:42:54 AM
The 2003 game has to be the biggest upset of the century.  We beat the top-rated team in the nation, as their rating was high enough to still play for the NCG after the loss.  I remember the talking heading laughing about K=State's chance of winning the CCG right before the game.  When we were on Hwy 70 heading to the game I remember all the bad person Nub fans flying OU flags and sitting with the OU fans.  I'm guessing the only reason they were there in large numbers was that they bought tickets earlier thinking they would be in the game.   :lol:  It was one of the few times I enjoyed the snow coming down on us and the bags of  Tostitos they were handing out just before the game was over.  That was the best CCG game I ever attended and shall cherish it for the rest of my life.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: stunted on November 20, 2022, 06:51:14 AM
cool story bro
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Katpappy on November 20, 2022, 06:59:54 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: nicname on November 20, 2022, 09:14:56 AM
The 2003 game has to be the biggest upset of the century.  We beat the top-rated team in the nation, as their rating was high enough to still play for the NCG after the loss.  I remember the talking heading laughing about K=State's chance of winning the CCG right before the game.  When we were on Hwy 70 heading to the game I remember all the bad person Nub fans flying OU flags and sitting with the OU fans.  I'm guessing the only reason they were there in large numbers was that they bought tickets earlier thinking they would be in the game.   :lol:  It was one of the few times I enjoyed the snow coming down on us and the bags of  Tostitos they were handing out just before the game was over.  That was the best CCG game I ever attended and shall cherish it for the rest of my life.

Was definitely a “you had to be there” kind of night. The mood and fan interactions from the trip up, to during the game, and then after. We’re one of a kind.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 20, 2022, 04:29:11 PM
The 2003 game has to be the biggest upset of the century.  We beat the top-rated team in the nation, as their rating was high enough to still play for the NCG after the loss.  I remember the talking heading laughing about K=State's chance of winning the CCG right before the game.  When we were on Hwy 70 heading to the game I remember all the bad person Nub fans flying OU flags and sitting with the OU fans.  I'm guessing the only reason they were there in large numbers was that they bought tickets earlier thinking they would be in the game.   :lol:  It was one of the few times I enjoyed the snow coming down on us and the bags of  Tostitos they were handing out just before the game was over.  That was the best CCG game I ever attended and shall cherish it for the rest of my life.

Was definitely a “you had to be there” kind of night. The mood and fan interactions from the trip up, to during the game, and then after. We’re one of a kind.

 :cheers:   still makes me happy thinking about that night   :emawkid:
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: nicname on October 22, 2023, 01:54:16 PM
SEMO - Zero points on 11 drives. 7 punts, 2 turnovers, 2 expired time. 0 FG, 0 TD.
Troy  - 13 points on 13 drives. 5 punts, 4 turnovers, 1 expired time. 2 FG, 1 TD.
Mizzou - 30 points on 13 drives. 6 punts, 0 turnovers, 1 missed FG, 0 expired time. 3 FG, 3 TD.
UCF - 24 points on 12 drives. 2 punts, 3 turnovers, 1 missed FG, 1 expired time. 1 FG, 4 TD.
OSU - 22 points 13 drives. 3 punts, 1 turnover, 1 missed FG, 1 expired time. 5 FG, 1 TD.
TTU - 21 points on 12 drives. 4 punts, 5 turnovers, 0 missed FG, 0 expired time. 0 FG, 3 TD.
TCU - 3 points on 9 drives. 5 punts, 2 turnovers, 1 expired time. 1 FG, 0 TD.

83 total drives defended
24 total scoring drives against.
12 total TD against.
12 total FG against.
32 total punts forced.
17 total turnovers* forced.

*Includes turnover on downs.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: cfbandyman on October 22, 2023, 02:22:16 PM
i have been pleased with their improvement after some shakiness vs Mizzou and UCF. Hell even in both those games they had really good moments. They are a solid unit now finally with enough guys with experience even if they are freshman and sophomores, they have over half a year under their belt.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: nicname on October 22, 2023, 03:31:53 PM
SEMO - Zero points on 11 drives. 7 punts, 2 turnovers, 2 expired time. 0 FG, 0 TD.
Troy  - 13 points on 13 drives. 5 punts, 4 turnovers, 1 expired time. 2 FG, 1 TD.
Mizzou - 30 points on 13 drives. 6 punts, 0 turnovers, 1 missed FG, 0 expired time. 3 FG, 3 TD.
UCF - 24 points on 12 drives. 2 punts, 3 turnovers, 1 missed FG, 1 expired time. 1 FG, 4 TD.
OSU - 22 points 13 drives. 3 punts, 1 turnover, 1 missed FG, 1 expired time. 5 FG, 1 TD.
TTU - 21 points on 12 drives. 4 punts, 5 turnovers, 0 missed FG, 0 expired time. 0 FG, 3 TD.
TCU - 3 points on 9 drives. 5 punts, 2 turnovers, 1 expired time. 1 FG, 0 TD.

83 total drives defended
24 total scoring drives against.
12 total TD against.
12 total FG against.
32 total punts forced.
17 total turnovers* forced.

*Includes turnover on downs.

Points per drive

1. SEMO (0.0)
2. TCU (.33)
3. Troy (1.0)
4. OSU (1.69)
5. TTU (1.75)
6. UCF (2.0)
7. MU (2.3)

Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: nicname on October 22, 2023, 03:36:19 PM
i have been pleased with their improvement after some shakiness vs Mizzou and UCF. Hell even in both those games they had really good moments. They are a solid unit now finally with enough guys with experience even if they are freshman and sophomores, they have over half a year under their belt.

They've given us an opportunity to win every game on the schedule thus far, often times well outperforming those standards.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: nicname on October 22, 2023, 04:42:54 PM
_Fan on defense and offense

https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/big-12-drive-possession-stats-through-week-8.1134186/
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: stunted on October 24, 2023, 09:08:24 AM
_Fan on defense and offense

https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/big-12-drive-possession-stats-through-week-8.1134186/

we are a good football team
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 24, 2023, 12:58:55 PM
_Fan on defense and offense

https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/big-12-drive-possession-stats-through-week-8.1134186/
is k-state online still Derek Young's thing? I went to goEMAW premium about 3 years ago and lost track of who is doing what in the KSU BBS work.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Cire on October 24, 2023, 01:19:11 PM
At this point of the season we are a good team.  OSU was a complete brainfart of a game and mizzou needed a record breaking kick to win in regulation.

That we aren't ranked is completely discrespectful.   destiny in our hands and what not.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Spracne on October 24, 2023, 01:24:17 PM
At this point of the season we are a good team.  OSU was a complete brainfart of a game and mizzou needed a record breaking kick to win in regulation.

That we aren't ranked is completely discrespectful.   destiny in our hands and what not.

Yeah, you should be ranked.

In other news, I love this thread because I like singing "The Klandyman can" in my head.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: stunted on October 24, 2023, 01:43:08 PM
we can use the ranking as "bulletin board" material
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Cire on October 24, 2023, 01:54:22 PM
we can use the ranking as "bulletin board" material

Precisely

 :dubious:
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: nicname on October 24, 2023, 02:47:52 PM
At this point of the season we are a good team.  OSU was a complete brainfart of a game and mizzou needed a record breaking kick to win in regulation.

That we aren't ranked is completely discrespectful.   destiny in our hands and what not.

Yeah, you should be ranked.

In other news, I love this thread because I like singing "The Klandyman can" in my head.

In the voice of Sammy Davis Jr., obv.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: MakeItRain on October 24, 2023, 10:50:28 PM
we can use the ranking as "bulletin board" material

We'll be ranked when it matters, on Tuesday night.
Title: Re: The Klandyman Can; Cat defense under dc Joe Klanderman
Post by: Cire on October 25, 2023, 09:12:25 AM
we can use the ranking as "bulletin board" material

We'll be ranked when it matters, on Tuesday night.

Good point.