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Title: Covid keepers
Post by: GregKSU1027 on October 12, 2020, 11:11:42 AM
Should I stay or should I go?

With the news of Skylar Thompson this morning being out the rest of the year. Do we think he will opt in to next year or move on?

Covid is going to make the end of the year really tricky. I am not at all excited to see who stays and goes because a part of me wants this to be a regular year for recruiting purposes but the other part of me says if you have another year of eligibility you take it.

What say you goEMAW?
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 12, 2020, 11:22:33 AM
I think he's done.

We will also need to cut a few more current players on scholarship. I think the only current senior who is 100% staying is Blake Lynch.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: TaqMan on October 12, 2020, 11:24:06 AM
I hope all the really good players come back and all the meh ones decide to move on. And then they're replaced by stud HS recruits and/or transfers.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: GregKSU1027 on October 12, 2020, 11:34:15 AM
I think he's done.

We will also need to cut a few more current players on scholarship. I think the only current senior who is 100% staying is Blake Lynch.
This is how I feel, the team needs to make room for the recruiting class and i feel like most of the seniors will understand that.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: IPA4Me on October 12, 2020, 12:07:03 PM
Senior schollies don't count next year. So we can have extra bodies as long as we can afford it.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: waks on October 12, 2020, 12:38:18 PM
I think he's done.

We will also need to cut a few more current players on scholarship. I think the only current senior who is 100% staying is Blake Lynch.
He is coming back from what I have heard. Same person that told me he was out for the season before the news broke.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 12, 2020, 12:53:00 PM
Senior schollies don't count next year. So we can have extra bodies as long as we can afford it.

Right, it's the affording it piece. I'd be shocked if we're over, let's say 93, scholarships, next year. One important thing to remember about this rule and the scholarships are that they won't just have to pay for extra scholarships, next year, but in theory a program can carry over 85 scholarships until this year's freshmen exhaust their eligibility. The NCAA will still allow the schools to sign up to 25 kids a year.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 12, 2020, 12:53:46 PM
I think he's done.

We will also need to cut a few more current players on scholarship. I think the only current senior who is 100% staying is Blake Lynch.
He is coming back from what I have heard. Same person that told me he was out for the season before the news broke.

Is this taking the actual injury, like recovery and rehab time, into account?
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: TheTruth on October 12, 2020, 01:10:41 PM
The good news is our senior class isn’t huge, so that should help. I’d be good with the following staying (not that they would want to):
B Moore
E Sullivan
B Lynch
J Mac
I Mac
D Wiley
N Johnson
B Massie
Mixed on Thompson. Feel bad for him.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: waks on October 12, 2020, 01:39:53 PM
I think he's done.

We will also need to cut a few more current players on scholarship. I think the only current senior who is 100% staying is Blake Lynch.
He is coming back from what I have heard. Same person that told me he was out for the season before the news broke.

Is this taking the actual injury, like recovery and rehab time, into account?
I believe so. I was told this on Saturday.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 12, 2020, 02:13:47 PM
The good news is our senior class isn’t huge, so that should help. I’d be good with the following staying (not that they would want to):
B Moore
E Sullivan
B Lynch
J Mac
I Mac
D Wiley
N Johnson
B Massie
Mixed on Thompson. Feel bad for him.

I feel the same way about Elijah as I do Skylar. A 6th year along with a catastrophic injury seems a bit too much, but if he's good with it, I'll be happy for him.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: ben ji on October 12, 2020, 09:41:04 PM
Are there any title 9 implications on how many players can come back for another senior year? Like say only 5 female athletes decide to come back are we only allowed to keep 5 fball players?
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 13, 2020, 12:29:41 AM
Are there any title 9 implications on how many players can come back for another senior year? Like say only 5 female athletes decide to come back are we only allowed to keep 5 fball players?

The only way this a school is going to find themselves in title ix trouble is that they are honoring a bunch of male sports scholarship extensions but denying those for women on a large scale.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: GregKSU1027 on October 14, 2020, 09:12:53 AM
https://youtu.be/wCkXH78ciFQ

I don't think Kli-guy wants Skylar back. They are expecting him to leave.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: Kat Kid on October 14, 2020, 12:36:58 PM
Are there any title 9 implications on how many players can come back for another senior year? Like say only 5 female athletes decide to come back are we only allowed to keep 5 fball players?

The only way this a school is going to find themselves in title ix trouble is that they are honoring a bunch of male sports scholarship extensions but denying those for women on a large scale.

Wouldn't most student-athletes getting a full scholarship, absolutely try to come back?
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: steve dave on October 14, 2020, 03:11:05 PM
....no?


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Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2020, 03:20:28 PM
Are there any title 9 implications on how many players can come back for another senior year? Like say only 5 female athletes decide to come back are we only allowed to keep 5 fball players?

The only way this a school is going to find themselves in title ix trouble is that they are honoring a bunch of male sports scholarship extensions but denying those for women on a large scale.

Wouldn't most student-athletes getting a full scholarship, absolutely try to come back?

No. College sports is very difficult and I'd imagine most of these athletes, going pro in something other than sports, want to move on. Most of these athletes will have to enroll in grad school to exhaust all six years of eligibility they will have.

It's also very important to remember that the coaches and athletic departments don't have to honor the extra year. I can't imagine a lot of athletic departments have the money to carry every single athlete currently on scholarship, for another year, spread out over the next five years, while continuing to recruit and sign new athletes.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: wetwillie on October 14, 2020, 03:21:35 PM
Unless you think you can make the NFL or it helps your coaching career in the future why would you.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2020, 03:26:32 PM
Unless you think you can make the NFL or it helps your coaching career in the future why would you.

Read that article Tom posted last week about USC linebackers  :cry:
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: star seed 7 on October 14, 2020, 03:27:18 PM
Unless you think you can make the NFL or it helps your coaching career in the future why would you.

Love of the game man
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: Kat Kid on October 14, 2020, 04:01:12 PM
I get the institutions not having the money. I understand that college athletics is hard, jut thought most students would want to graduate and keep getting free housing/training table/school and keep playing a sport they like.

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 14, 2020, 04:29:56 PM
Free school when you already have your degree is a lot different than free school to earn a degree.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2020, 04:33:58 PM
Free school when you already have your degree is a lot different than free school to earn a degree.

Yep. It's very difficult to stay eligible and not graduate in five years, virtually impossible.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: michigancat on October 14, 2020, 04:58:21 PM
It's important to remember that P5 college football is an intense job with extremely weak benefits and not just something kids do for fun with their pals. I think KK knows this?
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: ChiComCat on October 15, 2020, 10:25:14 AM
Not that I hate Lynch coming back, but word is we have a huge stud kicker coming in next year.  Seems like a pretty easy position to step right into provided you don't crap yourself.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 15, 2020, 12:26:49 PM
Not that I hate Lynch coming back, but word is we have a huge stud kicker coming in next year.  Seems like a pretty easy position to step right into provided you don't crap yourself.

True freshman kicker? Hardest of passes. That position might be the biggest jump from high school to college. The best QB recruits get to play against stud defenders and routinely get challenged, is the challenge greater in college, of course. High school kicking is completely different than college kicking. High school kids kick field goals off a tee, high school goal posts are 5 feet narrower, and most kids trying to block kicks in high school are 5'8" linebackers who don't normally see the field. Kickers absolutely need a year of practice before setting real action.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: star seed 7 on October 15, 2020, 12:29:38 PM
Not that I hate Lynch coming back, but word is we have a huge stud kicker coming in next year.  Seems like a pretty easy position to step right into provided you don't crap yourself.

True freshman kicker? Hardest of passes. That position might be the biggest jump from high school to college. The best QB recruits get to play against stud defenders and routinely get challenged, is the challenge greater in college, of course. High school kicking is completely different than college kicking. High school kids kick field goals off a tee, high school goal posts are 5 feet narrower, and most kids trying to block kicks in high school are 5'8" linebackers who don't normally see the field. Kickers absolutely need a year of practice before setting real action.

I see you're familiar with my playing career
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: Kat Kid on October 15, 2020, 12:36:50 PM
It's important to remember that P5 college football is an intense job with extremely weak benefits and not just something kids do for fun with their pals. I think KK knows this?

I meant more the other sports.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: ben ji on October 15, 2020, 01:52:06 PM
It's important to remember that P5 college football is an intense job with extremely weak benefits and not just something kids do for fun with their pals. I think KK knows this?

Hey starting football player for the Kansas State wildcats. Do you want to stay in Manhattan for another year making out with hot chicks and being treated like a god or do you want to go back to your hometown and sell insurance?
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 16, 2020, 03:47:59 AM
Not that I hate Lynch coming back, but word is we have a huge stud kicker coming in next year.  Seems like a pretty easy position to step right into provided you don't crap yourself.

True freshman kicker? Hardest of passes. That position might be the biggest jump from high school to college. The best QB recruits get to play against stud defenders and routinely get challenged, is the challenge greater in college, of course. High school kicking is completely different than college kicking. High school kids kick field goals off a tee, high school goal posts are 5 feet narrower, and most kids trying to block kicks in high school are 5'8" linebackers who don't normally see the field. Kickers absolutely need a year of practice before setting real action.

I see you're familiar with my playing career

 :lynchmob:
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: kim carnes on October 17, 2020, 08:28:01 PM
I thought saban had covid?
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: bucket on October 17, 2020, 08:30:55 PM
I thought saban had covid?

false positive
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: GregKSU1027 on October 17, 2020, 09:50:10 PM
I thought saban had covid?

false positive
Tested 3 times, first was a false positive the other two were negative


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Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 17, 2020, 10:10:55 PM
I thought saban had covid?

false positive
Tested 3 times, first was a false positive the other two were negative


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According to Saban himself on gameday he didn't have a false positive, it was an actual positive but he's had three negative tests; Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, since testing positive.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: Katpappy on October 17, 2020, 10:18:41 PM
The first test was wrong.  No way you're positive and then negative the next day.  I didn't see anything about him feeling ill.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 17, 2020, 11:26:14 PM
The details of how he was tested is pretty interesting. It's also pretty clear they don't go to these lengths with players.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30132336/alabama-football-coach-nick-saban-cleared-return-immediately-third-negative-covid-19-test
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: michigancat on October 18, 2020, 10:50:17 AM
I thought saban had covid?

false positive
Tested 3 times, first was a false positive the other two were negative


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According to Saban himself on gameday he didn't have a false positive, it was an actual positive but he's had three negative tests; Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, since testing positive.
False positives are pretty rare but I don't know how he would know either way. I can't imagine most people get tested daily immediately after a positive so not sure how long people will test positive for.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: Katpappy on October 18, 2020, 04:57:01 PM
I thought saban had covid?

false positive
Tested 3 times, first was a false positive the other two were negative


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According to Saban himself on gameday he didn't have a false positive, it was an actual positive but he's had three negative tests; Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, since testing positive.
False positives are pretty rare but I don't know how he would know either way. I can't imagine most people get tested daily immediately after a positive so not sure how long people will test positive for.

I thought if you test positive you go into quarantine for 14 days.  So how does that fit in?
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: michigancat on October 18, 2020, 04:59:30 PM
I thought saban had covid?

false positive
Tested 3 times, first was a false positive the other two were negative


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According to Saban himself on gameday he didn't have a false positive, it was an actual positive but he's had three negative tests; Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, since testing positive.
False positives are pretty rare but I don't know how he would know either way. I can't imagine most people get tested daily immediately after a positive so not sure how long people will test positive for.

I thought if you test positive you go into quarantine for 14 days.  So how does that fit in?
Obviously that can change with multiple negative tests
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: BW on October 18, 2020, 05:11:11 PM
It's important to remember that P5 college football is an intense job with extremely weak benefits and not just something kids do for fun with their pals. I think KK knows this?

Hey starting football player for the Kansas State wildcats. Do you want to stay in Manhattan for another year making out with hot chicks and being treated like a god or do you want to go back to your hometown and sell insurance?
Second this motion.


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Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 18, 2020, 08:01:46 PM
It's important to remember that P5 college football is an intense job with extremely weak benefits and not just something kids do for fun with their pals. I think KK knows this?

Hey starting football player for the Kansas State wildcats. Do you want to stay in Manhattan for another year making out with hot chicks and being treated like a god or do you want to go back to your hometown and sell insurance?
Second this motion.


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You definitely have a misunderstanding of how college is for a lot of these guys. Playing football is really hard. The dudes I knew when I was in college would give anything to sleep in and occasionally skip class to play playstation.
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: kashi1965 on October 19, 2020, 12:17:53 PM
looks like we'll be missing some more players against KU. can't seem to keep covid out of the program
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2020, 12:32:38 PM
pretty surprised college kids got covid during a bye week with extra time off
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: michigancat on October 19, 2020, 12:35:37 PM
pretty surprised college kids got covid during a bye week with extra time off

it is a unique KSU problem
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: kashi1965 on October 19, 2020, 01:51:20 PM
pretty surprised college kids got covid during a bye week with extra time off
maybe the B10 was the smartest by not including any bye weeks. the players get no time off until the season is over
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: wetwillie on October 19, 2020, 02:05:50 PM
Word on the street is Youngblood infected himself and then breathed on everyone in their sleep
Title: Re: Covid keepers
Post by: Katpappy on October 19, 2020, 07:00:29 PM
Was that before or after he raped four/five girls.  and can I get a witness.  :lol: