Post by: sys on September 29, 2020, 06:04:33 PM
https://twitter.com/CBSNewsPoll/status/1311061358989934593
Post by: bucket on September 29, 2020, 06:06:41 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 29, 2020, 06:10:05 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 29, 2020, 06:21:33 PM
Post by: chum1 on September 29, 2020, 06:25:05 PM
https://twitter.com/pixelatedboat/status/1311062884101754880
Post by: chum1 on September 29, 2020, 06:31:57 PM
Post by: chum1 on September 29, 2020, 06:33:23 PM
https://twitter.com/JohnKerry/status/1311063374420160515
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 06:41:55 PM
Lol
https://twitter.com/pixelatedboat/status/1311062884101754880
That's hilarious
Post by: Cire on September 29, 2020, 06:43:18 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 06:45:45 PM
I think it’s bull crap that they are not live fact checking
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They've never done that and it would be impossible to keep that up, they'd have to pick and choose what to fact check.
Post by: Cire on September 29, 2020, 06:49:39 PM
Media outlets will be live fact checkingI think it’s bull crap that they are not live fact checking
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They've never done that and it would be impossible to keep that up, they'd have to pick and choose what to fact check.
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Post by: wetwillie on September 29, 2020, 06:53:35 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 29, 2020, 07:16:23 PM
Media outlets will be live fact checking......I think it’s bull crap that they are not live fact checking
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They've never done that and it would be impossible to keep that up, they'd have to pick and choose what to fact check.
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....Trump
Post by: DQ12 on September 29, 2020, 07:47:53 PM
Post by: sys on September 29, 2020, 07:58:08 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 08:02:54 PM
Media outlets will be live fact checkingI think it’s bull crap that they are not live fact checking
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They've never done that and it would be impossible to keep that up, they'd have to pick and choose what to fact check.
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Looks like NBC is doing it, a fruitless exercise.
Post by: nicname on September 29, 2020, 08:13:56 PM
Post by: sys on September 29, 2020, 08:15:43 PM
Post by: wetwillie on September 29, 2020, 08:16:53 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 08:18:34 PM
Post by: sys on September 29, 2020, 08:19:27 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 08:20:55 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 08:21:24 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on September 29, 2020, 08:22:09 PM
Post by: nicname on September 29, 2020, 08:22:23 PM
Post by: wetwillie on September 29, 2020, 08:22:36 PM
This is the worst debate in American history
Keep yappin man :lol:
Post by: nicname on September 29, 2020, 08:23:02 PM
This is an unwatchable trainwreck shitshow. They need to give the moderator the ability to cut off someone's mic.
Yes!
Post by: nicname on September 29, 2020, 08:23:37 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 08:26:28 PM
Why is it so hard for candidates to let each other talk and then volley back. Trump is the worst.
It's a tactic and Joe telling him to shut up was :jayhook:
Post by: michigancat on September 29, 2020, 08:26:34 PM
Post by: kim carnes on September 29, 2020, 08:30:35 PM
Post by: sys on September 29, 2020, 08:31:17 PM
Yeah they got to shut off mic
three or four more election cycles and debates will be journalists lecturing muted candidates while voters harshly judge their facial expressions to gauge humility and likeability.
Post by: sys on September 29, 2020, 08:35:21 PM
Post by: sys on September 29, 2020, 08:40:09 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 08:53:56 PM
To be fair, Biden is debating a full grown child.
They're going to play him getting frustrated with Trump ad naseum and talk about how he isn't poised or tough enough to deal with other world leaders.
Post by: Brock Landers on September 29, 2020, 08:54:04 PM
This is an unwatchable trainwreck shitshow. They need to give the moderator the ability to cut off someone's mic.
Yes!
I'm not even remotely gE'ing with this. It needs to be a thing, where a big red X lights up on their podium so everyone including that speaker is aware they've been cut off.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 08:55:00 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 08:59:38 PM
Post by: bucket on September 29, 2020, 09:04:07 PM
Trump lit Biden's ass up on that race question, it was an one sided as any of the topics so far.
What? Trump just said racial sensitivity training was racist.
Post by: wetwillie on September 29, 2020, 09:05:24 PM
Trump: I’m the captain now
Post by: sys on September 29, 2020, 09:06:31 PM
Post by: sys on September 29, 2020, 09:15:04 PM
Post by: nicname on September 29, 2020, 09:17:54 PM
Well, not the opposite, but Trump seems as the stunning his own toes and making himself look like crap with the constant interrupting.
Post by: wetwillie on September 29, 2020, 09:19:17 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 29, 2020, 09:27:25 PM
I honestly thought Trump would mop the floor with Biden. It’s basically the opposite. MIt won't hurt him a bit.
Well, not the opposite, but Trump seems as the stunning his own toes and making himself look like crap with the constant interrupting.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 09:29:49 PM
Trump lit Biden's ass up on that race question, it was an one sided as any of the topics so far.
What? Trump just said racial sensitivity training was racist.
Right, the point wasn't that trump would say something insightful, it was that Biden didn't bust his ass. Luckily Trump bailed Biden out and did more damage to himself, than Biden ever could, by not condemning white supremacy. This clip will a part of American history.
https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1311127279582416897
Post by: Cire on September 29, 2020, 09:35:45 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 09:37:11 PM
I actually think that there are some fairly uniformed people who were going to tune in to be “in the know” and have come away realizing that Joe Biden might not be as bad as their bunko group says
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He was pretty rough ridin' bad, tho
Post by: cfbandyman on September 29, 2020, 09:39:36 PM
I actually think that there are some fairly uniformed people who were going to tune in to be “in the know” and have come away realizing that Joe Biden might not be as bad as their bunko group says
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That's my take
Post by: sys on September 29, 2020, 09:41:36 PM
Post by: bucket on September 29, 2020, 09:42:32 PM
I actually think that there are some fairly uniformed people who were going to tune in to be “in the know” and have come away realizing that Joe Biden might not be as bad as their bunko group says
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He was pretty rough ridin' bad, tho
Ya, further proof laying a low profile plays well this election. This debate and this election. Keeping his mouth shut and smiling this debate played well with Trump fighting Chris Wallace.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 29, 2020, 09:43:11 PM
Post by: nicname on September 29, 2020, 09:48:10 PM
Trump lit Biden's ass up on that race question, it was an one sided as any of the topics so far.
What? Trump just said racial sensitivity training was racist.
Right, the point wasn't that trump would say something insightful, it was that Biden didn't bust his ass. Luckily Trump bailed Biden out and did more damage to himself, than Biden ever could, by not condemning white supremacy. This clip will a part of American history.
https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1311127279582416897
Yeah and the dumbass didn’t say anything about opportunity zones, hbcu money, low black unemployment (whether or not he caused it) + some conservative talking point about how he believes in everyone’s, especially black and minorities, ability to take care of themselves, then contrasting that with how dems/libs don’t believe that and feel they need to be their saviors.
I dunno, maybe that wouldn’t be effective.
Post by: cfbandyman on September 29, 2020, 09:52:13 PM
I actually think that there are some fairly uniformed people who were going to tune in to be “in the know” and have come away realizing that Joe Biden might not be as bad as their bunko group says
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He was pretty rough ridin' bad, tho
Ya, further proof laying a low profile plays well this election. This debate and this election. Keeping his mouth shut and smiling this debate played well with Drumpf fighting Chris Wallace.
He's his own worse enemy and it proves it. IMO even if Biden was some once in a generation politician trump's inability to not be a 5 year old makes it impossible.
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 29, 2020, 09:54:03 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 09:54:17 PM
Trump lit Biden's ass up on that race question, it was an one sided as any of the topics so far.
What? Trump just said racial sensitivity training was racist.
Right, the point wasn't that trump would say something insightful, it was that Biden didn't bust his ass. Luckily Trump bailed Biden out and did more damage to himself, than Biden ever could, by not condemning white supremacy. This clip will a part of American history.
https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1311127279582416897
Yeah and the dumbass didn’t say anything about opportunity zones, hbcu money, low black unemployment (whether or not he caused it) + some conservative talking point about how he believes in everyone’s, especially black and minorities, ability to take care of themselves, then contrasting that with how dems/libs don’t believe that and feel they need to be their saviors.
I dunno, maybe that wouldn’t be effective.
There's no winning voters on the issue of race, only losing them by making yourself look like a rough ridin' fool. I don't think that was bad enough for white people to be introspective about what he said or didn't say, but it was close.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 09:55:42 PM
Didn’t read anything in this thread and won’t read anything. Wow, what a complete crap show. Anyone who could watch that and still vote for Trump is on another level of POS.
Nigga, how you gonna come in here and post and tell us you won't read what we posted?
Post by: DQ12 on September 29, 2020, 09:59:00 PM
LolDidn’t read anything in this thread and won’t read anything. Wow, what a complete crap show. Anyone who could watch that and still vote for Trump is on another level of POS.
Nigga, how you gonna come in here and post and tell us you won't read what we posted?
Post by: chum1 on September 29, 2020, 10:00:28 PM
Post by: bucket on September 29, 2020, 10:01:23 PM
Trump lit Biden's ass up on that race question, it was an one sided as any of the topics so far.
What? Trump just said racial sensitivity training was racist.
Right, the point wasn't that trump would say something insightful, it was that Biden didn't bust his ass. Luckily Trump bailed Biden out and did more damage to himself, than Biden ever could, by not condemning white supremacy. This clip will a part of American history.
https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1311127279582416897
Ya, I was just blown away that he called racial sensitivity training racist that I completely forgot that he didn't condemn white supremacy and told the proud boys to be on stand by. You know, getting hit in the face a lot real fast.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 29, 2020, 10:11:28 PM
Post by: bucket on September 29, 2020, 10:11:49 PM
Trump lit Biden's ass up on that race question, it was an one sided as any of the topics so far.
What? Trump just said racial sensitivity training was racist.
Right, the point wasn't that trump would say something insightful, it was that Biden didn't bust his ass. Luckily Trump bailed Biden out and did more damage to himself, than Biden ever could, by not condemning white supremacy. This clip will a part of American history.
https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1311127279582416897
Ya, I was just blown away that he called racial sensitivity training racist that I completely forgot that he didn't condemn white supremacy and told the proud boys to be on stand by. You know, getting hit in the face a lot real fast.
Biden missed a lot of opportunities to bust Trump's ass. This one included. Joe isn't as quick as he used to be or as quick as I hoped he would be. Regardless, keeping his mouth shut, laughing and letting Trump battle Chris Wallace was preferable over what we saw.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 29, 2020, 10:26:30 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 10:29:50 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 29, 2020, 10:55:16 PM
So very sad. Best quote I’ve seen regarding this debate is “Canada is living above a meth lab.”I think this is exactly what Trump's team wants. The idea that it was a total shitshow so each side is equally bad.
Post by: bucket on September 29, 2020, 10:58:43 PM
Post by: chum1 on September 29, 2020, 11:01:50 PM
So very sad. Best quote I’ve seen regarding this debate is “Canada is living above a meth lab.”I think this is exactly what Trump's team wants. The idea that it was a total shitshow so each side is equally bad.
That would be stupid because they are behind. I think no one can control Trump, he just goes with his gut, and his gut is full of Breitbart and Fox News.
Post by: chum1 on September 29, 2020, 11:04:33 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 11:04:52 PM
I tuned into Fox after the debate and they yelled down at Jeraldo who questioned Trump's response to distancing himself from the proud boys and the klan.
Really?
Post by: Trim on September 29, 2020, 11:40:21 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 29, 2020, 11:47:28 PM
So very sad. Best quote I’ve seen regarding this debate is “Canada is living above a meth lab.”I think this is exactly what Trump's team wants. The idea that it was a total shitshow so each side is equally bad.
That would be stupid because they are behind. I think no one can control Trump, he just goes with his gut, and his gut is full of Breitbart and Fox News.
eh it definitely hurts Joe. Disgust people out of participating at all and let NPR bothsides it to death
Post by: Trim on September 30, 2020, 01:04:53 AM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 30, 2020, 02:28:43 AM
1st time through I was cringing, and pretty disgusted.
2nd time through, mostly disgusted by Wallace coming to stuttering Joe's rescue, and realized
how badly Don whooped dat ass! :love:
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 30, 2020, 02:40:38 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 30, 2020, 06:46:58 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 30, 2020, 09:04:17 AM
https://twitter.com/rembert/status/1311121763409956867If the the visit we had from my in-laws last weekend is any indication of what is in store during the upcoming holiday season, yes.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 30, 2020, 09:32:20 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 30, 2020, 09:34:44 AM
That was like when your parents are arguing or a friends parents arguing in front of you and you just wanting to get outta there
yes, and then one says something really racist
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2020, 09:36:56 AM
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 30, 2020, 09:43:54 AM
So very sad. Best quote I’ve seen regarding this debate is “Canada is living above a meth lab.”I think this is exactly what Trump's team wants. The idea that it was a total shitshow so each side is equally bad.
That would be stupid because they are behind. I think no one can control Trump, he just goes with his gut, and his gut is full of Breitbart and Fox News.
I agree with this. All he was doing was making the hardest of the hard core Trump fans happy which won't help him at all. It was incredibly embarrassing.
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2020, 09:47:56 AM
So very sad. Best quote I’ve seen regarding this debate is “Canada is living above a meth lab.”I think this is exactly what Trump's team wants. The idea that it was a total shitshow so each side is equally bad.
That would be stupid because they are behind. I think no one can control Trump, he just goes with his gut, and his gut is full of Breitbart and Fox News.
I agree with this. All he was doing was making the hardest of the hard core Trump fans happy which won't help him at all. It was incredibly embarrassing.
Yoga's post illustrates what I'm getting at. Trump can't get any lower but he's making Joe look a lot worse and I think it'll make a lot of casual voters get disgusted with those dang politicians and not want to participate.
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 30, 2020, 09:58:57 AM
So very sad. Best quote I’ve seen regarding this debate is “Canada is living above a meth lab.”I think this is exactly what Trump's team wants. The idea that it was a total shitshow so each side is equally bad.
That would be stupid because they are behind. I think no one can control Trump, he just goes with his gut, and his gut is full of Breitbart and Fox News.
I agree with this. All he was doing was making the hardest of the hard core Trump fans happy which won't help him at all. It was incredibly embarrassing.
Yoga's post illustrates what I'm getting at. Trump can't get any lower but he's making Joe look a lot worse and I think it'll make a lot of casual voters get disgusted with those dang politicians and not want to participate.
I get what you're saying and I guess there is some truth to that to unfortunately. The number of people who actually were saying Biden was rude by calling Trump names on my social feeds was mind blowing. I just don't see how that will work with the undecided.
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2020, 10:01:57 AM
I get what you're saying and I guess there is some truth to that to unfortunately. The number of people who actually were saying Biden was rude by calling Trump names on my social feeds was mind blowing. I just don't see how that will work with the undecided.
it will make them not want to vote at all
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 30, 2020, 10:03:20 AM
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2020, 10:28:18 AM
So very sad. Best quote I’ve seen regarding this debate is “Canada is living above a meth lab.”I think this is exactly what Trump's team wants. The idea that it was a total shitshow so each side is equally bad.
That would be stupid because they are behind. I think no one can control Trump, he just goes with his gut, and his gut is full of Breitbart and Fox News.
I agree with this. All he was doing was making the hardest of the hard core Trump fans happy which won't help him at all. It was incredibly embarrassing.
Yoga's post illustrates what I'm getting at. Trump can't get any lower but he's making Joe look a lot worse and I think it'll make a lot of casual voters get disgusted with those dang politicians and not want to participate.
I don't know why that would dissuade more potential Biden voters than potential Trump voters, especially enough to make up the margin.
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2020, 10:29:32 AM
I also wouldn't be surprised if Trump's law and order talk plays really well in a lot of suburbs based on nextdoor conversations in my suburb.
Trump polled worse following law and order ads targeted at suburbs.
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2020, 10:30:49 AM
I don't know why that would dissuade more potential Biden voters than potential Trump voters, especially enough to make up the margin.
potential trump voters won't be dissuaded because that was just normal Trump without surprises
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2020, 10:31:21 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 30, 2020, 10:32:51 AM
Can guarantee my MAGA in-laws were shocked and horrified by Biden's lack of respect.
I get what you're saying and I guess there is some truth to that to unfortunately. The number of people who actually were saying Biden was rude by calling Trump names on my social feeds was mind blowing. I just don't see how that will work with the undecided.
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2020, 10:33:18 AM
I don't know why that would dissuade more potential Biden voters than potential Trump voters, especially enough to make up the margin.
potential trump voters won't be dissuaded because that was just normal Trump without surprises
also Biden's main pitch is basically "let's be civil"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 30, 2020, 10:37:34 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on September 30, 2020, 10:41:25 AM
Can guarantee my MAGA in-laws were shocked and horrified by Biden's lack of respect.
I get what you're saying and I guess there is some truth to that to unfortunately. The number of people who actually were saying Biden was rude by calling Drumpf names on my social feeds was mind blowing. I just don't see how that will work with the undecided.
That is pretty loller given the way trump operates. It's a weird double standard to uphold.
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2020, 10:42:07 AM
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Do you ever get the feeling the rest of the world is laughing at us?
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Is it to late to use the sound proof booth in this crap show?
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I only watched for 30 minutes before I went back to Schitts Creek. Seemed like similar story lines and Schitts Creek was way funnier.
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Sorry to all the parents who’s children saw that.
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I practiced “self care” last night and went to bed at 9:15. Sounds like it was a wise choice.
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One of my sons just asked... “Is this for real? Are they serious?”
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I wish Facebook had a "snooze button" that wasn't just for 30 days, but one for "until after the election".
and I think this one was the worst
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I’ve found the days I write down 3 things I’m thankful for it personally makes me feel happier and have a more positive outlook on life. So over the next 4 weeks I’m going to share some of those on FB along with a puppy photo.
🐶 Today I’m thankful for in 4 weeks these little nuggets will create significant joy in 5 different families’ lives. Each family member’s happiness will domino effect onto all the people they interact with in the following months. Thus these 5 pups will create 100’s of positive impacts way beyond our reach, no matter the outcome of Nov. 3rd. The second and third things are Winnie and Lola our furry family members that help create these nuggets.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2020, 10:54:19 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 30, 2020, 10:55:06 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on September 30, 2020, 10:56:19 AM
What is bad about the last one?
They don't care about the outcome of the election because there are bad people on both sides
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2020, 10:57:18 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 30, 2020, 10:57:44 AM
That was not my takeaway at allmaybe she's a dog breeder? :dunno:
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2020, 11:04:14 AM
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2020, 11:20:11 AM
I don't know why that would dissuade more potential Biden voters than potential Trump voters, especially enough to make up the margin.
potential trump voters won't be dissuaded because that was just normal Trump without surprises
Potential Biden voters will be energized to vote against Trump because they don't like normal Trump. What I'm saying is that I'm not seeing asymmetry in the strategy. The strategy is ultimately just more of the same.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 30, 2020, 11:24:38 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 30, 2020, 11:28:02 AM
They get very upset when reporters (especially non-male, non-white reporters) don't show Dear Leader proper respect and deference. Not that they would ever tune into FAKENEWS like PBS NewsHour but I think watching Yamiche direct "nasty questions" toward Trump would cause them to keel over.Can guarantee my MAGA in-laws were shocked and horrified by Biden's lack of respect.
I get what you're saying and I guess there is some truth to that to unfortunately. The number of people who actually were saying Biden was rude by calling Drumpf names on my social feeds was mind blowing. I just don't see how that will work with the undecided.
That is pretty loller given the way trump operates. It's a weird double standard to uphold.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 30, 2020, 11:31:07 AM
Just watched the cnn undecided voters panel. Lol, eff this place.
You wanted to beat their asses, right? Just a bucket of stupidity. Also that leatherfaced white dude definitely wasn't undecided. "I'm now going to vote for trump because Biden was so mean." Nigga what?
Post by: MakeItRain on September 30, 2020, 11:37:36 AM
I just assume anyone who is still undecided is voting for Trump or not voting.
Yeah pretty much
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 30, 2020, 11:39:10 AM
Post by: Trim on September 30, 2020, 11:40:28 AM
Just watched the cnn undecided voters panel. Lol, eff this place.
You wanted to beat their asses, right? Just a bucket of stupidity. Also that leatherfaced white dude definitely wasn't undecided. "I'm now going to vote for trump because Biden was so mean." Nigga what?
Not their asses specifically, but a large amount of the asses in this country.
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2020, 11:40:32 AM
Yeah, it was about how in 4 weeks the puppies will be distributed to some families (they are probably 2-4 weeks old right now) and will provide a domino effect of joy. A little naive hippy mentality, but whatever. It's a positive message.
nothing wrong with it if he doesn't mention the election. between the lines there is a "both of these guys suck, but who cares because I'm gonna be alright and puppies" vibe. Might be worse for me because I know this person and although I don't dislike them I don't really care for their social media presence (their profession is real estate developer, not hippie-ish at all).
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 30, 2020, 11:41:21 AM
I was kinda disappointed that Joe crawfished on the green new deal, defund the police etc.
The Green New Deal response was pretty weird. He's never been a supporter of defunding his vice president, though.
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2020, 11:44:14 AM
Post by: Trim on September 30, 2020, 11:45:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esB1OrPSRGg
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2020, 11:47:30 AM
I was kinda disappointed that Joe crawfished on the green new deal, defund the police etc.
Both you and Trump were surprised that Biden wasn't the imaginary character you'd heard about from right wing media.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 30, 2020, 11:50:03 AM
I never post about politics but last night I did feel obliged to point out that trump is walter matthau and biden is jack lemmon. this third grumpy old men movie wasn't as good as the first two
One of these two men gave a shout out to white supremacy. It's becoming increasingly easier to see right through anyone insisting on both sidesing these two dudes. BTK, Major Thomas Payne, eh same guy both tried to kill people.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 30, 2020, 11:51:14 AM
I was kinda disappointed that Joe crawfished on the green new deal, defund the police etc.
The Green New Deal response was pretty weird. He's never been a supporter of defunding his vice president, though.
It wasn't weird at all, he's been very consistent about this.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 30, 2020, 11:53:59 AM
Here it was:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esB1OrPSRGg
For those that didn't watch CNN last night, they did three different segments with these people and ol leatherface was highly critical of Biden in each segment. He was not undecided.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2020, 11:55:47 AM
I don't think interest is down, just everyone has already made up their mind and are sick of this election just waiting for it to be over.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 30, 2020, 11:57:52 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 30, 2020, 12:24:38 PM
I watched for pure entertainment purposes and to see how unhinged Trump was going to get. I was not surprised he was unhinged, but I am surprised he got there in the first 60 seconds of the debate.
Biden could have said the word "poop" the entire time and it would not have changed my vote. Just like Trumps blatant racism is not going to change the vote of his base.
Post by: cfbandyman on September 30, 2020, 12:39:42 PM
It's a mixture of fewer undecideds, low enthusiasm for Biden, and trump fatigue.
Yup, IMO since basically June after the whole church photo op I think this country has just galvanized on who they want. The amount of undecideds is basically not worth fighting over because they hardly exist. Regardless of who is voting for who this country just wants to pull the goddamn lever and be done with that part of it.
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2020, 12:55:43 PM
https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1311355635569766405
Post by: nicname on September 30, 2020, 01:03:24 PM
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd think having mics that are automatically only on when it is a candidate's time to speak is preferable to a moderator controlled mute button.
https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1311355635569766405
I like this idea. There shouldn’t be any talking over each other at a presidential debate.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 30, 2020, 01:04:55 PM
Post by: nicname on September 30, 2020, 01:07:41 PM
It's a mixture of fewer undecideds, low enthusiasm for Biden, and trump fatigue.
Succinct and accurate
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2020, 01:17:29 PM
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd think having mics that are automatically only on when it is a candidate's time to speak is preferable to a moderator controlled mute button.
https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1311355635569766405
I like this idea. There shouldn’t be any talking over each other at a presidential debate.
I think it should be a combination of one mic on and both mics on. I don't think all interaction is necessarily bad.
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2020, 01:21:16 PM
https://twitter.com/dhookstead/status/1311334767049289728
I don't think interest is down, just everyone has already made up their mind and are sick of this election just waiting for it to be over.
I wonder how it compares to 2012 and 2008
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 30, 2020, 01:38:06 PM
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2020, 01:41:37 PM
Post by: Cire on September 30, 2020, 01:45:38 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 30, 2020, 02:40:25 PM
no one except maybe 1 other president has been better for African Americans
Lincoln!
Post by: Phil Titola on September 30, 2020, 03:08:13 PM
here's a sample from facebook of people I would consider "casual" and basically never post about politics. Basically no one except hardcore libs pointed out that it was Trump being a mess who refused to disavow white supremacy again.Casual political people aren't posting political takes on facebook.QuoteDo you ever get the feeling the rest of the world is laughing at us?QuoteIs it to late to use the sound proof booth in this crap show?QuoteI only watched for 30 minutes before I went back to Schitts Creek. Seemed like similar story lines and Schitts Creek was way funnier.QuoteSorry to all the parents who’s children saw that.QuoteI practiced “self care” last night and went to bed at 9:15. Sounds like it was a wise choice.QuoteOne of my sons just asked... “Is this for real? Are they serious?”QuoteI wish Facebook had a "snooze button" that wasn't just for 30 days, but one for "until after the election".
and I think this one was the worstQuoteI’ve found the days I write down 3 things I’m thankful for it personally makes me feel happier and have a more positive outlook on life. So over the next 4 weeks I’m going to share some of those on FB along with a puppy photo.Today I’m thankful for in 4 weeks these little nuggets will create significant joy in 5 different families’ lives. Each family member’s happiness will domino effect onto all the people they interact with in the following months. Thus these 5 pups will create 100’s of positive impacts way beyond our reach, no matter the outcome of Nov. 3rd. The second and third things are Winnie and Lola our furry family members that help create these nuggets.
Post by: LickNeckey on September 30, 2020, 03:10:22 PM
CHRIS WALLACE: What is radical about racial sensitivity training?
DONALD TRUMP: If you were a certain person, you had no status in life. It was sort of a reversal.
Is Trump complaining that this flipped tradiional heirarchical structures?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 30, 2020, 03:46:57 PM
Also LMFAO on Trump taking credit for big 10 playing football.swing states! gotta get them buckeyes and wolverines
Post by: steve dave on September 30, 2020, 03:48:36 PM
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Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2020, 03:55:53 PM
Those are all political takes!here's a sample from facebook of people I would consider "casual" and basically never post about politics. Basically no one except hardcore libs pointed out that it was Trump being a mess who refused to disavow white supremacy again.Casual political people aren't posting political takes on facebook.QuoteDo you ever get the feeling the rest of the world is laughing at us?QuoteIs it to late to use the sound proof booth in this crap show?QuoteI only watched for 30 minutes before I went back to Schitts Creek. Seemed like similar story lines and Schitts Creek was way funnier.QuoteSorry to all the parents who’s children saw that.QuoteI practiced “self care” last night and went to bed at 9:15. Sounds like it was a wise choice.QuoteOne of my sons just asked... “Is this for real? Are they serious?”QuoteI wish Facebook had a "snooze button" that wasn't just for 30 days, but one for "until after the election".
and I think this one was the worstQuoteI’ve found the days I write down 3 things I’m thankful for it personally makes me feel happier and have a more positive outlook on life. So over the next 4 weeks I’m going to share some of those on FB along with a puppy photo.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 30, 2020, 05:18:23 PM
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2020, 06:08:13 PM
https://twitter.com/NewsbySmiley/status/1311384840844046338
https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/1311394265126309888
Post by: sys on September 30, 2020, 06:40:46 PM
https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/1311394265126309888
biden should take that and run.
Post by: wetwillie on September 30, 2020, 06:58:13 PM
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2020, 07:00:22 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 30, 2020, 07:12:38 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 30, 2020, 09:14:39 PM
I think that the polls would indicate quite a few people voting against trump, but I think Harris would actually poll with a lower favorability rating than Clinton did.
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2020, 07:56:15 AM
I think Harris would actually poll with a lower favorability rating than Clinton did.
there's a decent chance we find out in 4 years
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 01, 2020, 08:20:15 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2020, 08:28:19 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 01, 2020, 09:59:20 AM
I think she might do well as an incumbent. Agree that she would probably lose as the candidate this year.
I would agree on both of those.
If, obv if, Biden wins, I fully expect it to be a single term presidency and then hand it over to her. I think she does pretty well in that one, assuming that is what happens.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 11:56:15 AM
I think she might do well as an incumbent. Agree that she would probably lose as the candidate this year.
I would agree on both of those.
If, obv if, Biden wins, I fully expect it to be a single term presidency and then hand it over to her. I think she does pretty well in that one, assuming that is what happens.
She's not going to sway how the general populace feel about black women, just like Hillary didn't. People aren't going to stop hating women just because Joe Biden either gets sick or dies in office.
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2020, 11:59:05 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 12:00:15 PM
I think people particularly hated Hillary but who knows
Liz Warren too?
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2020, 12:02:29 PM
I think people particularly hated Hillary but who knows
Liz Warren too?
Liz wasn't hated like Hillary was IMO. She definitely got some unfair criticism of her personality but she was far more charming and relatable than Hilldawg if people actually saw her.
Post by: Institutional Control on October 01, 2020, 12:10:33 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 01, 2020, 12:16:57 PM
I think she might do well as an incumbent. Agree that she would probably lose as the candidate this year.
I would agree on both of those.
If, obv if, Biden wins, I fully expect it to be a single term presidency and then hand it over to her. I think she does pretty well in that one, assuming that is what happens.
She's not going to sway how the general populace feel about black women, just like Hillary didn't. People aren't going to stop hating women just because Joe Biden either gets sick or dies in office.
For the most part yes, but it's easier to defend when you're already there, than try and reach where you haven't been IMO. I guess what I mean to say, she'll do better in the hypothetical 2024 race being VP than she would just trying to do it w/o any of that legitimacy. She'll get plenty of vitriol, I don't doubt it, but people will also get much more comfortable with the idea of it if she's basically an heir apparent. Obviously president is the ultimate glass ceiling, but the penultimate one hasn't been broken yet being VP.
I also think Hillary being a woman wasn't as big of reason as to why she lost but that's more my opinion.
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2020, 12:30:05 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2020, 12:42:13 PM
I think she will beat Ivanka.lmao she’d boat race Ivanka. Ben Sasse tho
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 01, 2020, 12:50:06 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2020, 01:07:21 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 01, 2020, 01:14:08 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 01:51:48 PM
People who generally hate Liz and Hilldawg love Tulsi.
People loved Liz until she became a serious threat to win the nomination.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 01:53:39 PM
I think she might do well as an incumbent. Agree that she would probably lose as the candidate this year.
I would agree on both of those.
If, obv if, Biden wins, I fully expect it to be a single term presidency and then hand it over to her. I think she does pretty well in that one, assuming that is what happens.
She's not going to sway how the general populace feel about black women, just like Hillary didn't. People aren't going to stop hating women just because Joe Biden either gets sick or dies in office.
For the most part yes, but it's easier to defend when you're already there, than try and reach where you haven't been IMO. I guess what I mean to say, she'll do better in the hypothetical 2024 race being VP than she would just trying to do it w/o any of that legitimacy. She'll get plenty of vitriol, I don't doubt it, but people will also get much more comfortable with the idea of it if she's basically an heir apparent. Obviously president is the ultimate glass ceiling, but the penultimate one hasn't been broken yet being VP.
I also think Hillary being a woman wasn't as big of reason as to why she lost but that's more my opinion.
Hillary and Biden are politically nearly identical. Do you think Hillary would beat trump today? I'm saying this as someone who didn't even vote for her.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 01, 2020, 01:59:49 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 01, 2020, 03:11:08 PM
I think she might do well as an incumbent. Agree that she would probably lose as the candidate this year.
I would agree on both of those.
If, obv if, Biden wins, I fully expect it to be a single term presidency and then hand it over to her. I think she does pretty well in that one, assuming that is what happens.
She's not going to sway how the general populace feel about black women, just like Hillary didn't. People aren't going to stop hating women just because Joe Biden either gets sick or dies in office.
For the most part yes, but it's easier to defend when you're already there, than try and reach where you haven't been IMO. I guess what I mean to say, she'll do better in the hypothetical 2024 race being VP than she would just trying to do it w/o any of that legitimacy. She'll get plenty of vitriol, I don't doubt it, but people will also get much more comfortable with the idea of it if she's basically an heir apparent. Obviously president is the ultimate glass ceiling, but the penultimate one hasn't been broken yet being VP.
I also think Hillary being a woman wasn't as big of reason as to why she lost but that's more my opinion.
Hillary and Biden are politically nearly identical. Do you think Hillary would beat trump today? I'm saying this as someone who didn't even vote for her.
Honestly, I think it would be even closer, she pissed away her chances in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. She only lost those by like 80k votes combined, and she owned the popular vote. That is literally the difference in that election. They also acted very arrogant towards the end, and I'm sure enough people stayed home to probably keep that election from going that way, but those the breaks.
Hillary comes with the Benghazi baggage (real or imaginary) w/ "her emails!" and being saddled with the whole Bill "pedo" thing. As well as being the insider on an election craving an outsider. Her short comings come way more from things outside her possession of a vagina. All it does IMO is aggravate it, it's a handicap, not the handicap.
This election is much more "do you want more of this circus or do you want some semblance of normalcy" for some and "I just love pissing off the libs" on the other. There is nothing really that matters about the positions of the two candidates IMO at this point, so who cares about how left or right that is.
It's hard to play the what if on this anyways, she'd lose in a rematch because what is done is done, but the history of that election shows if she played it differently she'd won. I guess what I mean to say if you flipped the two candidates, and had Biden in 2016 v Trump, and Hillary v Trump 2020, I think trump could have still won in 2016 simply because the country was willing to roll the dice on an outsider and Hillary would have a better chance at winning in this one because holy hell this didn't go well. Circumstances and her poor closing game in the last month, plus probably even Comey, did her in, more than her sex did her in.
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 03:35:32 PM
for whatever reason, republicans never turned their opinion-forming power against biden before he ran. they'll have four (or eight) years to demonize harris, which is a lot less than clinton, but a lot more than nothing.
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2020, 03:41:34 PM
for whatever reason, republicans never turned their opinion-forming power against biden before he ran.
Burisma, China, other stuff dax regurgitates. It didn't stick.
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 03:44:00 PM
for whatever reason, republicans never turned their opinion-forming power against biden before he ran.
too late by the time he's a candidate.
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2020, 04:12:50 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 13, 2022, 01:42:00 PM
I agree with Ronna McDaniel
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1481682492583198729
Post by: catastrophe on January 13, 2022, 01:50:10 PM