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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: WildcatNkilt on July 13, 2020, 09:27:25 AM
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Good morning gE Moms, Dads, and parental Guardians.
It is pretty obvious that school districts are all over the place on what the fall semester will look like for K-12 across the US. Unfortunately the administration and Betsy DeVos are worthless, so the school districts have little to no guidance on the best path to move forward.
Outside of selfishly wanting my kids out of the house, I continue to debate the safety of them and their teachers. How much of a cluster-eff is it going to be?
I'm debating homeschooling for the first semester. My oldest will be in Kindergarten, so I'm sure it's quite different than homeschooling a 5th grader (for example). I've even heard some parents talk about a one-room homeschooling model with neighborhood kids.
What is everyone else is thinking or planning?
I hate seeing that teachers and faculty will be forced into a situation of teaching in-person during a pandemic. We all know teachers are already vastly underpaid. I've also wondered if we will see older teachers retire early and others resign. gE teachers....thoughts? How difficult will it be to keep masks on kids for 8 hrs a day?
Just in case, we converted our toy room into a classroom.
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Good morning gE Moms, Dads, and parental Guardians.
It is pretty obvious that school districts are all over the place on what the fall semester will look like for K-12 across the US. Unfortunately the administration and Betsy DeVos are worthless, so the school districts have little to no guidance on the best path to move forward.
Outside of selfishly wanting my kids out of the house, I continue to debate the safety of them and their teachers. How much of a cluster-eff is it going to be?
I'm debating homeschooling for the first semester. My oldest will be in Kindergarten, so I'm sure it's quite different than homeschooling a 5th grader (for example). I've even heard some parents talk about a one-room homeschooling model with neighborhood kids.
What is everyone else is thinking or planning?
I hate seeing that teachers and faculty will be forced into a situation of teaching in-person during a pandemic. We all know teachers are already vastly underpaid. I've also wondered if we will see older teachers retire early and others resign. gE teachers....thoughts? How difficult will it be to keep masks on kids for 8 hrs a day?
Just in case, we converted our toy room into a classroom.
Tough situation with no easy answers.
We can be sure that the official guidance on re-opening schools will strictly be based on what helps the regime.
There are lots of teachers and school workers who have significant risk factors for bad COVID disease
I think it is bad for kids to not be in school.
I think it is ironic that people on the right are clamoring for schools to re-open after hearing Rush Limbaugh belittle and demean "government screw--ools" for years.
I agree with most of Dr Damania's thoughts in this video. A lot of parents will lose their freaking minds if kids are required to wear masks.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/q2o-Yxylf7Q[/youtube]
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Just had "practice school" this morning with masks and after 15 minutes I can confirm it will be a cluster.
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Just had "practice school" this morning with masks and after 15 minutes I can confirm it will be a cluster.
What age kids?
I'm thinking that masks will be tough for kids younger than 12 or so to use for very long. They will constantly have their hands inside them, etc.
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We'll mark this hour as: Resident LibBots demand full Federal Control Hour.
Stay tuned, in an hour Resident LibBots will be mad if the Federal Gov't tries to control something.
All situations are the same: Until they're not
Here's a helpful link
https://equityschoolplus.jhu.edu/reopening-policy-tracker/?campaign_id=154&emc=edit_cb_20200709&instance_id=20188&nl=coronavirus-briefing®i_id=116817729&segment_id=33053&te=1&user_id=0bc977e21b2bb6d4521154a30a7ad75a
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I think a lot of rich families are gonna get private online school
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Sounds like locally parents will have the option to opt out of traditional school day and have access to technology, online curriculum, and support.
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Just push back the start of the school year until November.
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In terms of teachers it sounds as if there may be a fairly large contingent of late retiree's that don't want to deal with potential health ramifications.
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Sounds like locally parents will have the option to opt out of traditional school day and have access to technology, online curriculum, and support.
We have that option but they're limiting it. Planning on splitting the school into two groups and everyone will be half days four days a week with their cohort.
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Just push back the start of the school year until November.
The virus will be just as bad in November.
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Just had "practice school" this morning with masks and after 15 minutes I can confirm it will be a cluster.
What age kids?
I'm thinking that masks will be tough for kids younger than 12 or so to use for very long. They will constantly have their hands inside them, etc.
1st and 3rd grader
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It’s going to be a crap show.
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i'd like to hear from anyone working in education in any capacity, but my initial expectation is that widespread teacher shortages will force distance learning on a lot of the school systems now planning on in-person education.
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https://twitter.com/DanaGoldstein/status/1282737460611616771
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K-6 not required to wear masks
7-12 must
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K-6 not required to wear masks
7-12 must
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i'd like to hear from anyone working in education in any capacity, but my initial expectation is that widespread teacher shortages will force distance learning on a lot of the school systems now planning on in-person education.
if you are doing any sort of isolation or contract tracing for positive cases, then yeah. I don't know what you are going to do unless we get testing ramped up (which isn't happening).
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I think some schools down here are having classes split in half and strewn all over the school. Desks everywhere, six feet apart. Masks for older kids.
It’s gonna be a shitshow. It will never work long-term. It will get so bad again that eventually everybody’s going back home. Seriously, this school year is doomed.
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1281951628162002946?s=21
It’s not that hard guys
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USD 383 https://www.usd383.org/Home/Components/News/News/10295/17?fbclid=IwAR18JniNh93klH-B4sZ2QBNha0svXnmSM9kVRgSGLgW_oidcjUTGGJMdBow
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if you are doing any sort of isolation or contract tracing for positive cases, then yeah. I don't know what you are going to do unless we get testing ramped up (which isn't happening).
yeah, if they're going to pretend they care about transmission, then it's just going to be constant starting and stopping as people pop up with positive tests.
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https://twitter.com/AlecMacGillis/status/1283436371441524736
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It's almost like everybody in America realizes if Trump makes a strong declearation that it's obviously the worst option/decision and immediately their instinct is to do the opposite.
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It's almost like everybody in America realizes if Trump makes a strong declearation that it's obviously the worst option/decision and immediately their instinct is to do the opposite.
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What will school in KS look like.
Nobody Knows!
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I would say motivating people to actually prepare wills is a silver lining in this situation.
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I would say motivating people to actually prepare wills is a silver lining in this situation.
You obviously forgot this... :kstategrad: :Pirate:
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https://twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1284644669029146624
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School here is going to start online. Sucks. What's Kansas doing? Maybe I'll move everyone in with my parents.
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School here is going to start online. Sucks. What's Kansas doing? Maybe I'll move everyone in with my parents.
We are delayed until after Labor Day. Pretty sure that means all school activities(even online) but not 100% sure.
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School here is going to start online. Sucks. What's Kansas doing? Maybe I'll move everyone in with my parents.
Sucks indeed, but it’s absolutely the right call.
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Petition going around the neighborhood FB group to demand the local schools start on-time and in-person.
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Magas are demanding on time start.
Kansas board will meet next few days and vote to give individual districts Autonomy or wait until Labor Day.
I think the state board will leave it up to districts.
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the children will be fine, true.
https://twitter.com/stltoday/status/1285199041417158663
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the children will be fine, true.
https://twitter.com/stltoday/status/1285199041417158663
agreed! and I'm sure the teachers nearing retirement are smart enough to figure out how to stay safe without government interventions such as mask mandates
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We decided to homeschool my oldest going into Kindergarten....at least for the first semester. After looking at the curriculum, he already knows what is expected plus some. Our biggest concern is keeping him social with other kids, which I think we have a good plan for that.
This would be much harder if he was older.
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IXL learning
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looks like families are starting to form "pods" that will hire private tutors for in-person small group instruction. The Bay Area, man.
Here's a post from one of the SFUSD school board members. It's long but thought provoking if you can put in the time. Some questions about Pandemic Pods:
- Who is present in these spaces? Who is missing?
- Who benefits? Who is excluded?
- How does this elevate and support anti racism? Integration? Public education?
- What narratives do pods reinforce about public education?
- What is the history of families with asset wealth and social privilege pooling resources (e.g. resource-hoarding)?
- How does this fit into a culture of capitalism, individualism and consumerism vs. socialism, collectivism, and community-responsive practice?
- In this time of crisis, how do these actions support families with the greatest need? Families struggling with food insecurity? Housing insecurity? Single parents? Parents of students with disabilities? Parents of students learning English? Parents of undocumented students?
- (And also, who is Littldata, the company behind these Bay Area groups?)
I am hearing from many families that the explosion of this conversation is very concerning. As families we are all experiencing a loss because we cannot “go-back-to-school” or work this fall like we had hoped when we began shelter-in-place this spring.
Every day we see a virus spiraling out of control and there is a lack of leadership at the state and a national level. Our government’s failure to act is causing deep distress in our communities and is leading to economic devastation, deep emotional depression and loss of life which we have never experienced in our lifetimes.
It is understandable that folks want to take action in order to feel some control in this scary uncertain time. Taking action is a healthy response to crisis and trauma.
Nonetheless, the frantic activity I am witnessing of families soliciting teachers and private tutors for their children at the tune of hundreds to thousands of dollars to “homeschool” their children is frightening to many Black parents and parents of color. It feels exclusionary to many families with students with disabilities who require one-on-one support. Parents who don’t speak English, or don’t have the time to participate in all this online research, networking and interviewing don’t even know these conversations are happening.
If you put BLM in your social media feed... If you have ever protested children being put into cages... If you believe in the promise of collective solutions to social ills, e.g. libraries, public parks and public education... You must ask yourself how your involvement in forming “pods” promotes or diminishes our collective investment in historically marginalized communities: Black, Native American, Latinx, immigrant, low-income, homeless, disabled, etc.
Some context to consider... After Brown v. Board of Education mandated integration, white families pulled their children out of public schools in droves and began homeschooling and hiring teachers and tutors to educate their children in their homes. This led to segregation academies, and later an explosion of private schools which allowed our education system to remain segregated. With white and affluent families out of the public education system, funding and public investment decreased as well.
In contrast Black communities formed “Freedom Schools” in the 1960s to counter the “sharecropper education” received by so many African Americans and poor whites. The Black Panther Party also developed childcare, educational enrichment and one of the meal programs which eventually led to free-and reduced school based lunch programs in public education.
Please educate yourselves on the history of segregation and it’s relationship to private education. Please educate yourselves on “white flight” and “freedom schools” and collectivist (vs. capitalist) models of childcare and education.
We need solutions to the challenges we are facing that don’t further separate us from our neighbors. We need solutions that pool resources for the benefit of ALL of us and that center families and children most in need.
I'd never heard of the company mentioned
https://littldata.com/2020/07/13/four-types-of-childcare-and-schooling-pods-explained/
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i actually think that would be a good way to proceed. not the private pods, but a universal public school version of that:
put the children into small groups (pods) of like 6-10 or so that go somewhere outside the house for school days. have under 30 year old asst teaching supervisors physically present with the children to lead engagement, etc. most instruction is remote from older teachers. testing shuts down just a pod rather than full classrooms or schools.
any family can opt out for full distance learning if they prefer.
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i actually think that would be a good way to proceed. not the private pods, but a universal public school version of that:
put the children into small groups (pods) of like 6-10 or so that go somewhere outside the house for school days. have under 30 year old asst teaching supervisors physically present with the children to lead engagement, etc. most instruction is remote from older teachers. testing shuts down just a pod rather than full classrooms or schools.
any family can opt out for full distance learning if they prefer.
Great idea...but how could they realistically staff that? Most classes today have 20 kids. You would be doubling your teaching staff in every single school who already underpay their teachers.
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i actually think that would be a good way to proceed. not the private pods, but a universal public school version of that:
put the children into small groups (pods) of like 6-10 or so that go somewhere outside the house for school days. have under 30 year old asst teaching supervisors physically present with the children to lead engagement, etc. most instruction is remote from older teachers. testing shuts down just a pod rather than full classrooms or schools.
any family can opt out for full distance learning if they prefer.
I was thinking about a solution like that the other day to help out families where parents have to get back to a physical location situatiofn.
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I like that approach but I'd see if you can get college students who won't be going back to campus to monitor the pods. Just don't know how it would work though. Lots of money.
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Make it an x-hour humanities credit and then the college kids pay to watch your kids $$$$
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i actually think that would be a good way to proceed. not the private pods, but a universal public school version of that:
put the children into small groups (pods) of like 6-10 or so that go somewhere outside the house for school days. have under 30 year old asst teaching supervisors physically present with the children to lead engagement, etc. most instruction is remote from older teachers. testing shuts down just a pod rather than full classrooms or schools.
any family can opt out for full distance learning if they prefer.
I was thinking about a solution like that the other day to help out families where parents have to get back to a physical location situatiofn.
Funny, I was also thinking about a solution like that the other day, but in my scenario it involved making mad $$ with the aid of government vouchers.
It's funny that we've somehow come full circle to the good ol' one-room schoolhouse days of yore.
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i actually think that would be a good way to proceed. not the private pods, but a universal public school version of that:
put the children into small groups (pods) of like 6-10 or so that go somewhere outside the house for school days. have under 30 year old asst teaching supervisors physically present with the children to lead engagement, etc. most instruction is remote from older teachers. testing shuts down just a pod rather than full classrooms or schools.
any family can opt out for full distance learning if they prefer.
Great idea...but how could they realistically staff that? Most classes today have 20 kids. You would be doubling your teaching staff in every single school who already underpay their teachers.
Closer to 25-30, bro.
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i actually think that would be a good way to proceed. not the private pods, but a universal public school version of that:
put the children into small groups (pods) of like 6-10 or so that go somewhere outside the house for school days. have under 30 year old asst teaching supervisors physically present with the children to lead engagement, etc. most instruction is remote from older teachers. testing shuts down just a pod rather than full classrooms or schools.
any family can opt out for full distance learning if they prefer.
Great idea...but how could they realistically staff that? Most classes today have 20 kids. You would be doubling your teaching staff in every single school who already underpay their teachers.
Closer to 25-30, bro.
Sure so this validates my point even more. You would be looking tripling the teaching staff in every single school. Not sure even Emporia State could pump out new teacher grads fast enough.
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they wouldn't need to be full on teachers, certified and all that crap. you have the teachers providing the curriculum and remote instruction. federal govt would have to kick in the money to fund it.
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they wouldn't need to be full on teachers, certified and all that crap. you have the teachers providing the curriculum and remote instruction. federal govt would have to kick in the money to fund it.
lol
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it's all hypothetical, ofc. i'm done with thinking about real world solutions; we obviously aren't going to do anything.
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Moat states will jam them back after Labor Day. It's happening
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We decided to homeschool my oldest going into Kindergarten....at least for the first semester. After looking at the curriculum, he already knows what is expected plus some. Our biggest concern is keeping him social with other kids, which I think we have a good plan for that.
This would be much harder if he was older.
My brother has a somewhat prematurely born newborn, so potentially high risk, as well as a 6th grader and a 3rd grader, both early August kids and young for their grade. Plans on trying full distance learning, and if it sucks ass (likely?) just holding them back a year.
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We decided to homeschool my oldest going into Kindergarten....at least for the first semester. After looking at the curriculum, he already knows what is expected plus some. Our biggest concern is keeping him social with other kids, which I think we have a good plan for that.
This would be much harder if he was older.
My brother has a somewhat prematurely born newborn, so potentially high risk, as well as a 6th grader and a 3rd grader, both early August kids and young for their grade. Plans on trying full distance learning, and if it sucks ass (likely?) just holding them back a year.
that's a good plan, he and his family must be super chill. I don't know many parents who would be able to stomach that but it makes a ton of sense.
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Kck not going back for 9 weeks. Starting virtual.
That’s bold, I bet they stood to lose Lot of teachers.
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Kck not going back for 9 weeks. Starting virtual.
That’s bold, I bet they stood to lose Lot of teachers.
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I think all schools are gonna lose lots of teachers not matter what. Like this is an incredible disaster for schools any way you cut it
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Our grade school where lil sd will start second grade is doing full back to school with masks on a normal schedule. But, medical and other requested exemptions can be made and you can do concurrent virtual study. No idea what that entails but if it’s anything like what we had to do when we quit early it is awful (for the parent) and actually pretty good (for the student) but probably super super awful for the teacher (who has to somehow do both?).
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Kck not going back for 9 weeks. Starting virtual.
That’s bold, I bet they stood to lose Lot of teachers.
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I think all schools are gonna lose lots of teachers not matter what. Like this is an incredible disaster for schools any way you cut it
My sister teaches high school and she is considering not going back. They are trying to get pregnant.
Another HS teacher friend is almost certainly resigning unless she can get a “virtual” assignment.
The feeling from most of them is that after schools open and people start getting sick there will be closures because they won’t be subs.
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Blue valley is delaying
I bet the rest of joco follows.
Maybe not the Spring Hill And Gardner red necks.
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Kck not going back for 9 weeks. Starting virtual.
That’s bold, I bet they stood to lose Lot of teachers.
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I think all schools are gonna lose lots of teachers not matter what. Like this is an incredible disaster for schools any way you cut it
My sister teaches high school and she is considering not going back. They are trying to get pregnant.
Another HS teacher friend is almost certainly resigning unless she can get a “virtual” assignment.
The feeling from most of them is that after schools open and people start getting sick there will be closures because they won’t be subs.
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Our grade school where lil sd will start second grade is doing full back to school with masks on a normal schedule. But, medical and other requested exemptions can be made and you can do concurrent virtual study. No idea what that entails but if it’s anything like what we had to do when we quit early it is awful (for the parent) and actually pretty good (for the student) but probably super super awful for the teacher (who has to somehow do both?).
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It's really interesting listening to all the sides of this (non MAGA people that is). I got my sister who is very like "I'll do whatever they tell me, home or in person" but she's also young so she's become apathetic about it. She really did not have a fun WFH experience with the kids, and hardly any did their assignments. For her it was a ton of work and no real reward. Next door neighbor wants them to go back, but only because she and her husband are back at work, and they have no real way to support the child care/teaching from home if it came down to it. She was fairly upset they were (and this was yesterday before today's vote happened) going to push back school, since the program her kids were in wasn't going to go that long, and now she was going to have to find a sitter for the few weeks until school started.
Then you got my mom who is older, of course and doesn't really want to work, but she also knows the position she has will most likely get cut if they don't go back, she works in the classroom with kids to help them catch up, can't do that well remotely.
The whole thing is a mess and IMO there is no good answer to balance the needs between teachers/staff, kids, and parents.
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KCPS just bodyslammed the joco districts with their reopening plan.
I guess that’s where All that administrative overhead goes.
Olathe, blue valley and Shawnee mission decision makers are made up of very average to dogshit former teachers who raced to get out of the classroom and into admin.
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Our grade school where lil sd will start second grade is doing full back to school with masks on a normal schedule. But, medical and other requested exemptions can be made and you can do concurrent virtual study. No idea what that entails but if it’s anything like what we had to do when we quit early it is awful (for the parent) and actually pretty good (for the student) but probably super super awful for the teacher (who has to somehow do both?).
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It's really interesting listening to all the sides of this (non MAGA people that is). I got my sister who is very like "I'll do whatever they tell me, home or in person" but she's also young so she's become apathetic about it. She really did not have a fun WFH experience with the kids, and hardly any did their assignments. For her it was a ton of work and no real reward. Next door neighbor wants them to go back, but only because she and her husband are back at work, and they have no real way to support the child care/teaching from home if it came down to it. She was fairly upset they were (and this was yesterday before today's vote happened) going to push back school, since the program her kids were in wasn't going to go that long, and now she was going to have to find a sitter for the few weeks until school started.
Then you got my mom who is older, of course and doesn't really want to work, but she also knows the position she has will most likely get cut if they don't go back, she works in the classroom with kids to help them catch up, can't do that well remotely.
The whole thing is a mess and IMO there is no good answer to balance the needs between teachers/staff, kids, and parents.
steve dave's the first person I've heard say remote learning was good for the kids. (of course he's a wfh pro)
my kids will be fine academically (because obviously they're smart and everyone else in the country is gonna be behind) but it sucks for them socially and w/ extracurriculars. we were willing to do in-person because we're all healthy and never around elderly people (aside from wife's work w/ PPE)
KCPS just bodyslammed the joco districts with their reopening plan.
I guess that’s where All that administrative overhead goes.
Olathe, blue valley and Shawnee mission decision makers are made up of very average to dogshit former teachers who raced to get out of the classroom and into admin.
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what did KCPS do?
I'm hearing a lot of schools pushing school back a couple weeks, is that just so they can get ready for the inevitable distance learning? Hopefully they aren't expecting another week will make the pandemic go away.
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I think the idea behind pushing back to Labor Day is preventing a whole lot of freshly infected families from traveling to get together for the 3 day weekend.
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Our grade school where lil sd will start second grade is doing full back to school with masks on a normal schedule. But, medical and other requested exemptions can be made and you can do concurrent virtual study. No idea what that entails but if it’s anything like what we had to do when we quit early it is awful (for the parent) and actually pretty good (for the student) but probably super super awful for the teacher (who has to somehow do both?).
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It's really interesting listening to all the sides of this (non MAGA people that is). I got my sister who is very like "I'll do whatever they tell me, home or in person" but she's also young so she's become apathetic about it. She really did not have a fun WFH experience with the kids, and hardly any did their assignments. For her it was a ton of work and no real reward. Next door neighbor wants them to go back, but only because she and her husband are back at work, and they have no real way to support the child care/teaching from home if it came down to it. She was fairly upset they were (and this was yesterday before today's vote happened) going to push back school, since the program her kids were in wasn't going to go that long, and now she was going to have to find a sitter for the few weeks until school started.
Then you got my mom who is older, of course and doesn't really want to work, but she also knows the position she has will most likely get cut if they don't go back, she works in the classroom with kids to help them catch up, can't do that well remotely.
The whole thing is a mess and IMO there is no good answer to balance the needs between teachers/staff, kids, and parents.
steve dave's the first person I've heard say remote learning was good for the kids. (of course he's a wfh pro)
my kids will be fine academically (because obviously they're smart and everyone else in the country is gonna be behind) but it sucks for them socially and w/ extracurriculars. we were willing to do in-person because we're all healthy and never around elderly people (aside from wife's work w/ PPE)
It for sure sucked for me and my wife with the kids home. I gained a lot of respect for teachers over those months. But, I was shocked how much actual learning was going on for 1st graders and how lil sd's teacher was engaged all day with the online work and zoom calls and reviewing papers and answering questions. Like, we were really learning to read better and crap. I am embarrassed to say that I thought 1st grade was glorified daycare before I was responsible for making sure lil sd did 8 different assignments every day and record himself reading and doing zoom calls with the class and junk. but I agree the socialization is the biggest missing piece.
also, my employer (elite euros) provides $100 a day reimbursement for special child care during covid. all you have to do is submit the name of the person who took care of your kids. has to be at least 4 hours. they wire me $100. so my sister in law would take the kids on some days to play with their cousins so they weren't just entertaining themselves all day and we'd get $100 to give to her (or just keep it HAHAHAHAHAHA). anyway, it is a very nice perk and I've never appreciated my employer more than I do right now through Covid (and the BLM protests because of stuff they have done but that's a different topic).
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I'm not too terribly worried about the social development impact from online school. It's not ideal, but it is only one year out of many. I've also thought about how my nine year-old won't even really remember much of this. Probably remember that it happened, and masks, but not much else.
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I'm not too terribly worried about the social development impact from online school. It's not ideal, but it is only one year out of many. I've also thought about how my nine year-old won't even really remember much of this. Probably remember that it happened, and masks, but not much else.
yeah that probably depends on the age. Like, I'm not worried about "social development", it just kinda sucks they can't hang out with friends or play sports or things
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I'm not too terribly worried about the social development impact from online school. It's not ideal, but it is only one year out of many. I've also thought about how my nine year-old won't even really remember much of this. Probably remember that it happened, and masks, but not much else.
yeah that probably depends on the age. Like, I'm not worried about "social development", it just kinda sucks they can't hang out with friends or play sports or things
My kids' stress levels actually seemed lower from not having to interact with certain classmates during March, April, May.
Lately, they seem to be increasingly bored and missing interacting with their peers.
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Our grade school where lil sd will start second grade is doing full back to school with masks on a normal schedule. But, medical and other requested exemptions can be made and you can do concurrent virtual study. No idea what that entails but if it’s anything like what we had to do when we quit early it is awful (for the parent) and actually pretty good (for the student) but probably super super awful for the teacher (who has to somehow do both?).
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It's really interesting listening to all the sides of this (non MAGA people that is). I got my sister who is very like "I'll do whatever they tell me, home or in person" but she's also young so she's become apathetic about it. She really did not have a fun WFH experience with the kids, and hardly any did their assignments. For her it was a ton of work and no real reward. Next door neighbor wants them to go back, but only because she and her husband are back at work, and they have no real way to support the child care/teaching from home if it came down to it. She was fairly upset they were (and this was yesterday before today's vote happened) going to push back school, since the program her kids were in wasn't going to go that long, and now she was going to have to find a sitter for the few weeks until school started.
Then you got my mom who is older, of course and doesn't really want to work, but she also knows the position she has will most likely get cut if they don't go back, she works in the classroom with kids to help them catch up, can't do that well remotely.
The whole thing is a mess and IMO there is no good answer to balance the needs between teachers/staff, kids, and parents.
steve dave's the first person I've heard say remote learning was good for the kids. (of course he's a wfh pro)
my kids will be fine academically (because obviously they're smart and everyone else in the country is gonna be behind) but it sucks for them socially and w/ extracurriculars. we were willing to do in-person because we're all healthy and never around elderly people (aside from wife's work w/ PPE)
All of that is fine and good, I get that, it's just listening to everyone, there are just a lot of families again forced to make hard choices, and then listening to several (not all teachers) who sit there and act like they are being led like sheep to slaughter (not my sister obv but I have some friends who legit feel that way, and it honestly kinda pisses me off to a degree). I am glad plenty of kids will be fine through this, and I am sure academically many can make it work, but plenty will not make it work, and it'll only exacerbate social inequalities. Maybe they'll get it corrected, and it'll just be an aberration in the scheme of life, just seems like for a lot of those kids it comes at some crucial moments. It's a big pickle, I am glad I don't have kids rn and having to actively think about it.
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Yeah I think the general populace would be well served to acknowledge that this is a tough problem with significant drawbacks associated with every available solution. I don't feel too strongly about it one way or the other, and I get annoyed by those who think any solution is obviously the correct one.
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Our grade school where lil sd will start second grade is doing full back to school with masks on a normal schedule. But, medical and other requested exemptions can be made and you can do concurrent virtual study. No idea what that entails but if it’s anything like what we had to do when we quit early it is awful (for the parent) and actually pretty good (for the student) but probably super super awful for the teacher (who has to somehow do both?).
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It's really interesting listening to all the sides of this (non MAGA people that is). I got my sister who is very like "I'll do whatever they tell me, home or in person" but she's also young so she's become apathetic about it. She really did not have a fun WFH experience with the kids, and hardly any did their assignments. For her it was a ton of work and no real reward. Next door neighbor wants them to go back, but only because she and her husband are back at work, and they have no real way to support the child care/teaching from home if it came down to it. She was fairly upset they were (and this was yesterday before today's vote happened) going to push back school, since the program her kids were in wasn't going to go that long, and now she was going to have to find a sitter for the few weeks until school started.
Then you got my mom who is older, of course and doesn't really want to work, but she also knows the position she has will most likely get cut if they don't go back, she works in the classroom with kids to help them catch up, can't do that well remotely.
The whole thing is a mess and IMO there is no good answer to balance the needs between teachers/staff, kids, and parents.
steve dave's the first person I've heard say remote learning was good for the kids. (of course he's a wfh pro)
my kids will be fine academically (because obviously they're smart and everyone else in the country is gonna be behind) but it sucks for them socially and w/ extracurriculars. we were willing to do in-person because we're all healthy and never around elderly people (aside from wife's work w/ PPE)
All of that is fine and good, I get that, it's just listening to everyone, there are just a lot of families again forced to make hard choices, and then listening to several (not all teachers) who sit there and act like they are being led like sheep to slaughter (not my sister obv but I have some friends who legit feel that way, and it honestly kinda pisses me off to a degree). I am glad plenty of kids will be fine through this, and I am sure academically many can make it work, but plenty will not make it work, and it'll only exacerbate social inequalities. Maybe they'll get it corrected, and it'll just be an aberration in the scheme of life, just seems like for a lot of those kids it comes at some crucial moments. It's a big pickle, I am glad I don't have kids rn and having to actively think about it.
yeah it's a disaster overall outside of a few rich folks doing the pod tutor thing. but hey we saved some bars from going out of business maybe?
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Yeah I think the general populace would be well served to acknowledge that this is a tough problem with significant drawbacks associated with every available solution. I don't feel too strongly about it one way or the other, and I get annoyed by those who think any solution is obviously the correct one.
my only light I might see is if this turns into a "blow it up" event that completely changes how we think about inequality/the local funding model in public education. but that probably won't happen
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Yeah I think the general populace would be well served to acknowledge that this is a tough problem with significant drawbacks associated with every available solution. I don't feel too strongly about it one way or the other, and I get annoyed by those who think any solution is obviously the correct one.
my only light I might see is if this turns into a "blow it up" event that completely changes how we think about inequality/the local funding model in public education. but that probably won't happen
Yeah I think that's pretty unlikely, but it would be nice if it happened.
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Yeah I think the general populace would be well served to acknowledge that this is a tough problem with significant drawbacks associated with every available solution. I don't feel too strongly about it one way or the other, and I get annoyed by those who think any solution is obviously the correct one.
my only light I might see is if this turns into a "blow it up" event that completely changes how we think about inequality/the local funding model in public education. but that probably won't happen
would take if that happened.
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Yeah I think the general populace would be well served to acknowledge that this is a tough problem with significant drawbacks associated with every available solution. I don't feel too strongly about it one way or the other, and I get annoyed by those who think any solution is obviously the correct one.
100%. I am just tired of the one side who wants to keep kids at home generally not realizing that is not a viable solution to most people, and it also is generally from people who value education, but obv aren't thinking about how most people in this country actually work and live. And that teachers are being put in this horrible spot and they are some singular victim of this, as if grocery store clerks, food workers, sanitation, etc hasn't already been dealing with that sort of crap since day 1. Heck my office has been pushing for us to go back (and we have been back). No one is acting like we're some sacrificial lamb unto the alter of society (more like we can still do this from home, why are we going back? oh because you want to, I see).
On the flip side, it's rich seeing those who would rather Besty DeVoss this crap and act like they are doing a solid for students and "caring" about education, without recognizing/caring about the real dangers and concerns of faculty, staff, and well, it's not just kids who get sick too, they will carry it to others at home and to said faculty and staff. But those the breaks in this crazy fight. I feel for the parents first, kids next, then teachers, then everyone else involved in this.
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The worst part of being a teacher is dealing with the kids/students, so I understand the teachers' position.
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another big difference is that it's possible to teach virtually
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It's possible for rich suburban districts. Poorer districts have a lot of students that don't have access to virtual learning.
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Yeah I think the general populace would be well served to acknowledge that this is a tough problem with significant drawbacks associated with every available solution. I don't feel too strongly about it one way or the other, and I get annoyed by those who think any solution is obviously the correct one.
100%. I am just tired of the one side who wants to keep kids at home generally not realizing that is not a viable solution to most people, and it also is generally from people who value education, but obv aren't thinking about how most people in this country actually work and live. And that teachers are being put in this horrible spot and they are some singular victim of this, as if grocery store clerks, food workers, sanitation, etc hasn't already been dealing with that sort of crap since day 1. Heck my office has been pushing for us to go back (and we have been back). No one is acting like we're some sacrificial lamb unto the alter of society (more like we can still do this from home, why are we going back? oh because you want to, I see).
On the flip side, it's rich seeing those who would rather Besty DeVoss this crap and act like they are doing a solid for students and "caring" about education, without recognizing/caring about the real dangers and concerns of faculty, staff, and well, it's not just kids who get sick too, they will carry it to others at home and to said faculty and staff. But those the breaks in this crazy fight. I feel for the parents first, kids next, then teachers, then everyone else involved in this.
I've been trying to sort that balance in my head (without a clear conclusion), is what we are asking for teachers to do higher risk than waiters, bartenders, other essential workers. I think it probably is, but I'm sure there are some areas that are worse (meatpacking or some other manufacturing that can't distance and involves a lot of people indoors).
I guess the difference is teachers have to be accredited and have more leverage as employees (not like it's job that can easily attract new employees quickly).
For sure, I'm usually always about balance, but i just have a hard time in my head finding that without significantly changing school or how we approach things like childcare, which I don't think will get resolved in a month.
FTR, I also don't overly "blame" the schools per se on not having a good approach to this, because there are a) a ton of considerations that have to be done and take time to iron out and b) you're basing those considerations of a whole slew of different scenarios based on potentially how bad this is/not is, and all of those are subject to national, state, local, regulations potentially and how the parents and teachers feel. I do think they should be able to figure out something though.
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It's possible for rich suburban districts. Poorer districts have a lot of students that don't have access to virtual learning.
mhk has proposed having buses with wifi hot spots in neighborhoods for this purpose.. not sure its happening anymore but not an awful idea
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Our grade school where lil sd will start second grade is doing full back to school with masks on a normal schedule. But, medical and other requested exemptions can be made and you can do concurrent virtual study. No idea what that entails but if it’s anything like what we had to do when we quit early it is awful (for the parent) and actually pretty good (for the student) but probably super super awful for the teacher (who has to somehow do both?).
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It's really interesting listening to all the sides of this (non MAGA people that is). I got my sister who is very like "I'll do whatever they tell me, home or in person" but she's also young so she's become apathetic about it. She really did not have a fun WFH experience with the kids, and hardly any did their assignments. For her it was a ton of work and no real reward. Next door neighbor wants them to go back, but only because she and her husband are back at work, and they have no real way to support the child care/teaching from home if it came down to it. She was fairly upset they were (and this was yesterday before today's vote happened) going to push back school, since the program her kids were in wasn't going to go that long, and now she was going to have to find a sitter for the few weeks until school started.
Then you got my mom who is older, of course and doesn't really want to work, but she also knows the position she has will most likely get cut if they don't go back, she works in the classroom with kids to help them catch up, can't do that well remotely.
The whole thing is a mess and IMO there is no good answer to balance the needs between teachers/staff, kids, and parents.
steve dave's the first person I've heard say remote learning was good for the kids. (of course he's a wfh pro)
my kids will be fine academically (because obviously they're smart and everyone else in the country is gonna be behind) but it sucks for them socially and w/ extracurriculars. we were willing to do in-person because we're all healthy and never around elderly people (aside from wife's work w/ PPE)
KCPS just bodyslammed the joco districts with their reopening plan.
I guess that’s where All that administrative overhead goes.
Olathe, blue valley and Shawnee mission decision makers are made up of very average to dogshit former teachers who raced to get out of the classroom and into admin.
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what did KCPS do?
I'm hearing a lot of schools pushing school back a couple weeks, is that just so they can get ready for the inevitable distance learning? Hopefully they aren't expecting another week will make the pandemic go away.
phased repopening after laborday. everyone starting virtual. highest needs students start first with pre k -3rd.
hosting trainings for parents/families on tech, in person and virtual. they have partnerships to provide childcare for families during the day essential workers have priority.
they have 10000 hotspots to give to families for internet as well as providing 1-1 devices.
on and on and on.
The phases have community health benchmarks to hit before bringing more and more kids in.
It's really great and well planned. They proposed it to their board last night.
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Rural community. Half the county uses Hughes net crap. Can't stream classes there. So we're starting with regular classes for half the district. Not sure what will happen if they shut schools due to outbreak.
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It's possible for rich suburban districts. Poorer districts have a lot of students that don't have access to virtual learning.
that's still absolutely possible there. just takes funding. you can't pack meat ( :fatty: ) from home or waitress from home no matter what the gov invests in it.
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Kcmo has 10000 hotspots that they are giving out
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Yeah, that's good
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I'm in favor of opening schools with optional virtual but this is also a good take
https://twitter.com/ZackCz/status/1286128607795044353
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I'm in favor of opening schools with optional virtual but this is also a good take
https://twitter.com/ZackCz/status/1286128607795044353
It was the same when the KS Supreme Court met to decide about churches back in April. It was like, "if you have to do it this way, the answer should be obvious" which thankfully the court unanimously agreed.
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https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article244461637.html
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It's possible for rich suburban districts. Poorer districts have a lot of students that don't have access to virtual learning.
mhk has proposed having buses with wifi hot spots in neighborhoods for this purpose.. not sure its happening anymore but not an awful idea
mhk stud bosses the problem. no surprise.
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https://twitter.com/loisbeckett/status/1286762347290218496
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https://twitter.com/loisbeckett/status/1286762347290218496
What was it?
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We’re never getting out of this
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High school graduation
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The best and brightest will have us vaccined out of this in no time
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Good thread on schools reopening
https://twitter.com/BillHanage/status/1288675533170135041
https://twitter.com/BillHanage/status/1288692344246632449
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More data coming in I thought I'd share:
1) some districts just essentially eliminating a week or two of school from calendar and going forward
2) some districts extending school year on the back end and trimming some vacations (not a full week at Thanksgiving, which makes sense with lack of travel)
3) a number of KC schools starting online for a couple weeks
4) KSHAA said HS sports will start basically now, some rural districts basically had "voluntary" workouts and scrimmages with kids doing it on their own, most big districts have been shut down for awhile now and are going to ramp up quickly.
5) all beginning of year teacher trainings (new teacher on boarding, all hands meetings, trainings) will be online only, how this squares with mere weeks later fully reopening is hard to figure
6) masks required for middle school/HS students and teachers, not for kids (some students with special needs get exemptions as well)
7) online option for enrollment, but schools are making parents choose by this friday to get a sense for staffing, unclear if they are getting actual individualized instruction by a teacher or a canned online curriculum
8) some schools updating HVAC systems
9) block schedules, cohort groups and limited passing periods for secondary schools
Example:
9 week semester classes split in to 4 groupings
Morning Class A
8-10am
Afternoon Class B
10-12:30 (includes lunch)
Elective class
12:30-2
Study Hall/Extra Help
2-3
(I simplified it a bit)
Then you would get two new sections of students for the next 9 weeks, then rotate back through for the 2nd semester.
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what is the plan for when someone tests positive?
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what is the plan for when someone tests positive?
This is something that has not been made very clear!
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Hazmat suits are surprisingly cheap on amazon.
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what is the plan for when someone tests positive?
This is something that has not been made very clear!
seems like a big miss
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what is the plan for when someone tests positive?
This is something that has not been made very clear!
seems like a big miss
I would really like to know the answer
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hearing grumblings mhk will go to the hybrid option.
2days on for half of the kids on mon/tue, wednesday will be a cleaning day and then thur/fri other half will go to school.(for middle school and high school)
elementary they are talking 4 day a week schedule. probably will all get scraped and something different before they meet next week though.
every kid will get an iPad
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Joco health says that if a person tests positive but everyone was following guidelines then no one else needs to quarantine
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Joco health says that if a person tests positive but everyone was following guidelines then no one else needs to quarantine
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Our kids are super human in their genetic makeup
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hearing grumblings mhk will go to the hybrid option.
2days on for half of the kids on mon/tue, wednesday will be a cleaning day and then thur/fri other half will go to school.(for middle school and high school)
elementary they are talking 4 day a week schedule. probably will all get scraped and something different before they meet next week though.
every kid will get an iPad
This is the plan for USD 266 as well (for now).
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Joco health says that if a person tests positive but everyone was following guidelines then no one else needs to quarantine
this is probably the only way to actually plan on finishing a semester, but it's also completely insane. look for joco'ers to start dying by mid-october.
https://twitter.com/amymaxmen/status/1289241881537392640
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Joco health says that if a person tests positive but everyone was following guidelines then no one else needs to quarantine
this is probably the only way to actually plan on finishing a semester, but it's also completely insane. look for joco'ers to start dying by mid-october.
https://twitter.com/amymaxmen/status/1289241881537392640
Yikes.
It's all theater.
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Joco health says that if a person tests positive but everyone was following guidelines then no one else needs to quarantine
this is probably the only way to actually plan on finishing a semester, but it's also completely insane. look for joco'ers to start dying by mid-october.
https://twitter.com/amymaxmen/status/1289241881537392640
Also that's a lot of symptomatic cases. Which I suppose is good in that it's easier to diagnose.
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floating dorm.
https://twitter.com/thepointsguy/status/1289327960676118528
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WHO COULD HAVE FORESEEN THIS!
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floating dorm.
https://twitter.com/thepointsguy/status/1289327960676118528
CRUISE SHIP????
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i would support prosecuting individuals deemed responsible for reopening schools for manslaughter.
https://twitter.com/DanRather/status/1289988107228479489
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Cross post with SF things
https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1290052534451580928
https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1290135080808062977
These people suck so much
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/push-reopen-schools-fail/614869/
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/push-reopen-schools-fail/614869/
I hope she is wrong about everything in that article but I'm afraid that she is right.
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Cross post with SF things
https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1290052534451580928
https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1290135080808062977
These people suck so much
Why? Sounds like a good deal for both teacher and student. Less chance of getting covid-19.
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Why? Sounds like a good deal for both teacher and student. Less chance of getting covid-19.
aside from the exclusivity issue I'm just generally annoyed by people who think they can "disrupt" systems and structures that have been in place for years after googling "education spending per pupil". It's just really dismissive of what people who actually work in education have to deal with.
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So is he trying to get together with his neighbors and do rich people stuff or is he trying to charge tuition and make $$?
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So is he trying to get together with his neighbors and do rich people stuff or is he trying to charge tuition and make $$?
I think he's trying "pool capital" with his neighbors and not profit but was shamed into accepting poor kids but hard to tell
https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1290326423345930240
https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1290071088517455872
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aside from the exclusivity issue I'm just generally annoyed by people who think they can "disrupt" systems and structures that have been in place for years after googling "education spending per pupil". It's just really dismissive of what people who actually work in education have to deal with.
he's just trying to hire a tutor for his kid because he thinks public school will be cancelled this semester.
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aside from the exclusivity issue I'm just generally annoyed by people who think they can "disrupt" systems and structures that have been in place for years after googling "education spending per pupil". It's just really dismissive of what people who actually work in education have to deal with.
he's just trying to hire a tutor for his kid because he thinks public school will be cancelled this semester.
oh thanks for clarifying sys
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aside from the exclusivity issue I'm just generally annoyed by people who think they can "disrupt" systems and structures that have been in place for years after googling "education spending per pupil". It's just really dismissive of what people who actually work in education have to deal with.
he's just trying to hire a tutor for his kid because he thinks public school will be cancelled this semester.
If he was just trying to do that, he would just do that instead of creating a hashtag and blogging about it.
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aside from the exclusivity issue I'm just generally annoyed by people who think they can "disrupt" systems and structures that have been in place for years after googling "education spending per pupil". It's just really dismissive of what people who actually work in education have to deal with.
he's just trying to hire a tutor for his kid because he thinks public school will be cancelled this semester.
If he was just trying to do that, he would just do that instead of creating a hashtag and blogging about it.
I guarantee his VC fund is going to invest in a #microschool startup that acts like they're inventing a new concept that is really just rebranded tutoring. He said as much in his feed
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he's an annoying san francisco things guy so he thinks it sounds better to call it a #microschool, but that's what he's doing.
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He is actually just homeschooling with some other people's kids and an actual teacher and not some nut job mom
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Yeah, imo, what a great way for rich folks to spend their money. This one is annoyingly public about it, but it beats buying a yacht or whatever
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aside from the exclusivity issue I'm just generally annoyed by people who think they can "disrupt" systems and structures that have been in place for years after googling "education spending per pupil". It's just really dismissive of what people who actually work in education have to deal with.
he's just trying to hire a tutor for his kid because he thinks public school will be cancelled this semester.
If he was just trying to do that, he would just do that instead of creating a hashtag and blogging about it.
I guarantee his VC fund is going to invest in a #microschool startup that acts like they're inventing a new concept that is really just rebranded tutoring. He said as much in his feed
This is what being a disrupter looks like.
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Is he demanding his school taxes refunded? Because that's a major thing on texags
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doesn't really belong in this thread, but people don't like this guy
https://twitter.com/benghazi_ebooks/status/1290316277924401156
https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1290358214719021056
also a shitload of people responded to that last tweet with a single eye emoji and I'm not sure what exactly that means
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https://twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/1290626349426671617
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https://twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/1290626349426671617
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Nightmare fuel.
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When I go back in I'm going to look like the Halo guy or the Fallout guy.
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I'm really curious about how long schools will stay open. And how they will decide to shut down. And how decisions about doing so will vary.
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When I go back in I'm going to look like the Halo guy or the Fallout guy.
I want pics of your covid proof suit
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I'm really curious about how long schools will stay open. And how they will decide to shut down. And how decisions about doing so will vary.
At first I was annoyed when our schools announced a virtual start but now I'm glad because everyone's gonna shut down and at least our teachers will be mostly ready for it.
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https://twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/1290626349426671617
:sdeek:
Some mask wearers, some barefaces in that pic.
I'm really curious about how long schools will stay open. And how they will decide to shut down. And how decisions about doing so will vary.
Would be a good poll question - by what date will all schools in KS (or your state) be shut back down?
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It could be that the mask, but it looks to me like the girl in the relative middle with the blue mask is terrified. And lol at dude over her right shoulder's tampa shirt.
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Would be a good poll question - by what date will all schools in KS (or your state) be shut back down?
i thought ks schools were going to start the year online and were contemplating opening up for in-person classes after labor day.
i haven't been able to think of a good poll question around school/college openings, but i'd like to poll it if i can think of a good framing.
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Would be a good poll question - by what date will all schools in KS (or your state) be shut back down?
i thought ks schools were going to start the year online and were contemplating opening up for in-person classes after labor day.
i haven't been able to think of a good poll question around school/college openings, but i'd like to poll it if i can think of a good framing.
Most of the ones in our area are opening in-person in approx 2 weeks with options for online / virtual / remote / whatever you want to call it.
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https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1291114877185130502
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https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1291114877185130502
No mention of any teachers quarantining so lucky for them on dodging the virus
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My sisters district told teachers that as long as everyone had masks then no need to quarantine if students in their class came down positive.
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i'm not a lawyer, but it would seem to me that a lot of school districts are just begging to get sued here pretty soon.
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i'm not a lawyer, but it would seem to me that a lot of school districts are just begging to get sued here pretty soon.
they'll be fine
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"did you follow cdc guidelines?" - "no"
"did you follow advice from qualified medical sources?" - "no"
:dunno:
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"did you follow cdc guidelines?" - "no"
"did you follow advice from qualified medical sources?" - "no"
:dunno:
They’ll be fine
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"did you follow cdc guidelines?" - "no"
"did you follow advice from qualified medical sources?" - "no"
:dunno:
the CDC school "guidance" is pretty masterful at not giving a single requirement, just sharing "considerations" or things to do "when feasible"
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/schools.html
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"did you follow cdc guidelines?" - "no"
"did you follow advice from qualified medical sources?" - "no"
:dunno:
the CDC school "guidance" is pretty masterful at not giving a single requirement, just sharing "considerations" or things to do "when feasible"
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/schools.html
this one's heartwarming
-Support Coping and Resilience
-Encourage employees and students to take breaks from watching, reading, or listening to news stories about COVID-19, including social media if they are feeling overwhelmed or distressed.
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Why even bother having state, county and city health departments.
Lot of positions apparently need to be eliminated at the state, county and city level.
Those people are apparently completely clueless
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"did you follow cdc guidelines?" - "no"
"did you follow advice from qualified medical sources?" - "no"
:dunno:
the CDC school "guidance" is pretty masterful at not giving a single requirement, just sharing "considerations" or things to do "when feasible"
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/schools.html
Yep. That was Johnson county’s guidelines. As long as everyone is masked assume you are ok
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"did you follow cdc guidelines?" - "no"
"did you follow advice from qualified medical sources?" - "no"
:dunno:
the CDC school "guidance" is pretty masterful at not giving a single requirement, just sharing "considerations" or things to do "when feasible"
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/schools.html
Yep. That was Johnson county’s guidelines. As long as everyone is masked assume you are ok
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they also don't say anything about quarantining close contacts - it just says to notify them. So that Mississippi school is really going above and beyond.
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lol
Olathe is demanding that teachers that have health issues and need to teach remotely still must show up to school.
That is school is in session but teacher has students that chose to return remotely.
Wtf
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Olathe is demanding that teachers that have health issues and need to teach remotely still must show up to school.
That is school is in session but teacher has students that chose to return remotely.
Wtf
the teacher in this article died doing that, but i dunno.
i would support prosecuting individuals deemed responsible for reopening schools for manslaughter.
https://twitter.com/DanRather/status/1289988107228479489
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yep, you have to show up unless you have an ADA note requiring accommodations from your doctor.
Still not clear on exactly what the quarantine rules will be.
Riley County/USD 383 has pretty clear guidelines related to positive case counts automatically triggering a hybrid or fully remote plan.
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https://twitter.com/mollyhc/status/1291081924191100928
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https://twitter.com/mollyhc/status/1291081924191100928
Jesus what is wrong with people
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like, holy crap, this is so stupid and sad
I mean I guess the superintendent is correct that there isn't much you can do if having 2000 kids in a high school is the only option
The district superintendent, Brian Otott, sent a message to parents in the wake of the photo. He offered “context” for the photograph: “Class changes that look like this may happen, especially at a high school with more than 2,000 students.” There was little the district could do, he said, beyond encouraging masks.
Steven, a North Paulding student who asked that only his middle name be used, said he felt safe going to school without a mask. Most of the hallways he encountered, he said, were far less crowded than in the one in the photograph. And the virus itself, he said, didn’t seem like “much of a problem” in Paulding County.
“I’ve only known three people to get it, other than the football players, obviously,” Steven said. “If I get it, I get it. I believe that’s what most people in my area's ideology is — if we get it, we get it.”
Steven said he didn’t want to let worries about spreading the virus to his family control his life.
“Most of my family, including my grandparents, think the same as well,” he said. “We just go on about our business and keep it out of our mind.”
FIRST AMENDMENT ALERT
On Wednesday, the school addressed the controversy that had swirled around the viral photograph via an intercom announcement from North Paulding High School principal Gabe Carmona. In it, according to two people familiar with the situation, he stated that any student found criticizing the school on social media could face disciplinary consequences.
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USD 383 starting with first month hybrid. 2 days in person, 3 at home.
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USD 383 starting with first month hybrid. 2 days in person, 3 at home.
splitting the school into cohorts?
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I haven’t read the details on secondary, but I would think so. For elementary they are saying siblings will go on the same days.
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We need a voice of reason on this whole matter.
https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32/status/1291421434640609282
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We need a voice of reason on this whole matter.
https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32/status/1291421434640609282
it really is kind of amazing how difficult it is for people to grasp this.
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holy crap
https://twitter.com/ihateiceman/status/1290728743263252480
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1291456533482668032
A 15-year-old student at the high school, Hannah Watters, was suspended for five days for posting images of the crowded hallways on Twitter, according to her mother, Lynne Watters, who said she filed a grievance with the school on Thursday morning.
But he acknowledged, “There is no question that the photo does not look good.”Masks are not required at the school, Mr. Otott said, though the administration strongly encourages them for students and staff members.
“Wearing a mask is a personal choice, and there is no practical way to enforce a mandate to wear them,” he wrote, adding that more than 2,000 students attend the high school.
someone in the comments pointed out that they have a dress code that bans spaghetti strap shirts
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We need a voice of reason on this whole matter.
https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32/status/1291421434640609282
Hard to get to the bottom of the fullback controversy when you’re too busy solving the world’s problems.
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holy crap
https://twitter.com/ihateiceman/status/1290728743263252480
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1291456533482668032
A 15-year-old student at the high school, Hannah Watters, was suspended for five days for posting images of the crowded hallways on Twitter, according to her mother, Lynne Watters, who said she filed a grievance with the school on Thursday morning.
But he acknowledged, “There is no question that the photo does not look good.”Masks are not required at the school, Mr. Otott said, though the administration strongly encourages them for students and staff members.
“Wearing a mask is a personal choice, and there is no practical way to enforce a mandate to wear them,” he wrote, adding that more than 2,000 students attend the high school.
someone in the comments pointed out that they have a dress code that bans spaghetti strap shirts
Good grief.
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Hard to get to the bottom of the fullback controversy when you’re too busy solving the world’s problems.
I still have beef with the juice but I’ll put it on ice until we’re all chip’d.
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holy crap
https://twitter.com/ihateiceman/status/1290728743263252480
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1291456533482668032
A 15-year-old student at the high school, Hannah Watters, was suspended for five days for posting images of the crowded hallways on Twitter, according to her mother, Lynne Watters, who said she filed a grievance with the school on Thursday morning.
But he acknowledged, “There is no question that the photo does not look good.”Masks are not required at the school, Mr. Otott said, though the administration strongly encourages them for students and staff members.
“Wearing a mask is a personal choice, and there is no practical way to enforce a mandate to wear them,” he wrote, adding that more than 2,000 students attend the high school.
someone in the comments pointed out that they have a dress code that bans spaghetti strap shirts
Good grief.
School reopening is doing to be a disaster. Prove me wrong.
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I was thinking the same thing in response to that ridiculous comment about “can’t regulate what they choose to wear.” Just zero self awareness.
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I was thinking the same thing in response to that ridiculous comment about “can’t regulate what they choose to wear.” Just zero self awareness.
At least Georgia isn't one of those states that has had a bad COVID outbreak or something.
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USD383:
With Hybrid Learning, students will be divided into two groups, with all students in a household together in either Group A or Group B. Group A will attend on-site on Monday and Tuesday, and will be remote Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. Group B will be remote Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, and attend on-site on Thursday and Friday. It is anticipated that decisions about household assignments to Group A or Group B will be shared with households by August 19. For more about Hybrid Learning - including a sample calendar on pages 68-70 showing when Groups A and B report if there are less than five days of school in a week - please refer to the “Building Foundations for a Strong Reopening” document mentioned in the first paragraph of this letter.
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Good move
https://twitter.com/sean_callahan/status/1291567189187792896
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Yeah California just went ahead and postponed fall HS sports until December at the earliest. We're lucky that it's NBD to play football in January and February here.
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Imagine Nubbs without football though. They will riot.
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Olathe board members argued that sports should go because kids will also be playing club sports so they’re exposed either way
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In Kansas, we are starting sports before school. Need to make up for lost time with shut down summer workouts and no camps.
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I love sports, but they need to go.
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I love sports, but they need to go.
I honestly don’t see how if you are opening up they will make much difference. I do think Manhattan is set up to be hit pretty bad with the return of students and so maybe sports would spread that to less exposed towns, but look who they play.
I change my mind everyday about what I think is going to happen but I think the 1000 people in a building for a full day is more of a problem than football or whatever.
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I love sports, but they need to go.
I honestly don’t see how if you are opening up they will make much difference.
agree. it's just people desperate to not make the decision to keep schools closed looking for anything else they can possibly rationalize as the problem.
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nobody cares about Omaha area but me but we're supposed to start on Monday in Millard (which is OPS ajace) and I'm wondering if we are going to have a late change now too
https://twitter.com/emily_nitcher/status/1291812266275463168
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if there's just 9 new cases I'd say they're doing pretty good
https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1292476354768916482
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given incubation times and testing delays, i'd think that's more like 9 people that were infectious at the time of the photo.
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https://twitter.com/ChrisJoseWSB/status/1292564766100279296
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https://twitter.com/ChrisJoseWSB/status/1292564766100279296
Oh nice two days to give it a good scrubbing oughta do the trick
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:lol:
While this is rough ridin' hilarious the people who allowed the original stuff to happen should be criminally charged.
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I’m pretty much on the school from home or Hybrid w/emphasis on as much outdoor/open air classes as possible, and allow outdoor sports w/ minimal use of locker rooms /indoor facilities.
If you have to shut down hs and jr high sports tho, so be it.
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interested to see if they cancel cfb what happens with fall youth sports in most areas
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interested to see if they cancel cfb what happens with fall youth sports in most areas
They should just do what the school does: if classes are in person, play on. Otherwise cancel or postpone.
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Had heard on the news today that a 7 yr old kid with no health problems died from Covid-19. This crap is dangerous to kids and besides causing long term health issues, it could cause death. How rough ridin' stupid are our leaders who work remotely to protect themselves, but think kids can be together in schools without controlling this virus.
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Had heard on the news today that a 7 yr old kid with no health problems died from Covid-19. This crap is dangerous to kids and besides causing long term health issues, it could cause death. How rough ridin' stupid are our leaders who work remotely to protect themselves, but think kids can be together in schools without controlling this virus.
A lot of people are science deniers and dumb as eff, katpappy.
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also, I think we're stupid to let these fuckers handle this pandemic like idiots without repercussions. Let's get these crap heads out of government, so they can't eff up anything else.
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going great
https://twitter.com/gpbnews/status/1292984079567269890
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7 year old went back to school yesterday for a “get ready” day where only 1/5 of the students were there and they drilled them on mask wearing protocol, lining up, distancing, recess, lunch, etc. during covid.
Initial 7 year old reaction: crap sucks. Can’t touch anyone else on recess. Can’t share equipment/supplies. Can’t sit by anyone at lunch or anywhere else. But, he didn’t even realize he was wearing his mask after we picked him up and said he forgot about it for most of the day so I think masks will be fine. He goes back full time next Monday assuming our district doesn’t follow Omaha Public and go all virtual between now and then.
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Good report, I agree kids can wear masks all day - it won't be perfect 100% of the time but they can do it. But I'd guess crap's gonna spread with 25 kids in a classroom even if they're masked up.
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what is everyone doing with there kids this fall, send them to in person school, or home schooling? Was planning on doing in school, because i can't get anything done with kids here during the day WFH, but starting to wonder if should switch to home school. School isn't starting until Sep 8th, so a lot could change between now and then, they may not give us the choice by then who knows.
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what is everyone doing with there kids this fall, send them to in person school, or home schooling? Was planning on doing in school, because i can't get anything done with kids here during the day WFH, but starting to wonder if should switch to home school. School isn't starting until Sep 8th, so a lot could change between now and then, they may not give us the choice by then who knows.
Not saying to follow my advice.
I am sending my kids and I am going to work. I think there is a good chance the schools get shut down, but I think it is worth it to send them rather than trying to finagle a home school situation.
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I don't like being inside stores or restaurants with spaced-out adults that you'd think are generally smarter than kids.
And I think less-spaced, presumably dumber kids inside a building where there's constant mingling would be a lot worse.
Thus I'd be pretty uncomfortable putting my kid in that petri dish for the kid's sake and then uncomfortable myself with the kid coming home and bringing all that to me.
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I am sending my kids and I am going to work. I think there is a good chance the schools get shut down, but I think it is worth it to send them rather than trying to finagle a home school situation.
i mean, if you're sending yourself, you might as well send the children too.
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what is everyone doing with there kids this fall, send them to in person school, or home schooling? Was planning on doing in school, because i can't get anything done with kids here during the day WFH, but starting to wonder if should switch to home school. School isn't starting until Sep 8th, so a lot could change between now and then, they may not give us the choice by then who knows.
Around here I know some parents are looking to transfer from USD 383 (Manhattan/Ogden) to either USD 378 (Riley County) or USD 323 (Rock Creek) if they can. Those two school districts are going 5 days a week in person whereas USD 383 is only two days a week for a kid to start.
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what is everyone doing with there kids this fall, send them to in person school, or home schooling? Was planning on doing in school, because i can't get anything done with kids here during the day WFH, but starting to wonder if should switch to home school. School isn't starting until Sep 8th, so a lot could change between now and then, they may not give us the choice by then who knows.
Around here I know some parents are looking to transfer from USD 383 (Manhattan/Ogden) to either USD 378 (Riley County) or USD 323 (Rock Creek) if they can. Those two school districts are going 5 days a week in person whereas USD 383 is only two days a week for a kid to start.
what's the plan for when those districts go to hybrid or online only mid-year? I also thought about sending my kids to somewhere like KS but this kind of stopped me before it became the inevitable pain it was gonna be.
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what is everyone doing with there kids this fall, send them to in person school, or home schooling? Was planning on doing in school, because i can't get anything done with kids here during the day WFH, but starting to wonder if should switch to home school. School isn't starting until Sep 8th, so a lot could change between now and then, they may not give us the choice by then who knows.
Around here I know some parents are looking to transfer from USD 383 (Manhattan/Ogden) to either USD 378 (Riley County) or USD 323 (Rock Creek) if they can. Those two school districts are going 5 days a week in person whereas USD 383 is only two days a week for a kid to start.
what's the plan for when those districts go to hybrid or online only mid-year? I also thought about sending my kids to somewhere like KS but this kind of stopped me before it became the inevitable pain it was gonna be.
I honestly don't know if those parents think that will happen. At the same time, I also think they're at the point where if they can get the kids out of the house 5 days a week for a few weeks or a couple months, it will be worth it to them. If those other districts go online or hybrid at some point, I'm sure 383 will already be there. In that case, they won't be worse off and will have gotten some time where the kids are in school 5 days a week.
We homeschool our kids so we watch all of the debate around kids in school with a detached interest and a gratefulness that we are not experiencing all of the indecision and anxiety others are feeling. I have had some parents ask how much my wife would charge to homeschool their kids. My wife does have a degree in elementary education, so she does have some qualifications.
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I honestly don't know if those parents think that will happen. At the same time, I also think they're at the point where if they can get the kids out of the house 5 days a week for a few weeks or a couple months, it will be worth it to them. If those other districts go online or hybrid at some point, I'm sure 383 will already be there. In that case, they won't be worse off and will have gotten some time where the kids are in school 5 days a week.
They’d be worse off in that they’d have put their kids every weekday into a cesspool that eventually had to be shut down, and whatever came with that.
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I honestly don't know if those parents think that will happen. At the same time, I also think they're at the point where if they can get the kids out of the house 5 days a week for a few weeks or a couple months, it will be worth it to them. If those other districts go online or hybrid at some point, I'm sure 383 will already be there. In that case, they won't be worse off and will have gotten some time where the kids are in school 5 days a week.
They’d be worse off in that they’d have put their kids every weekday into a cesspool that eventually had to be shut down, and whatever came with that.
Also will 383 just take them back? Or will they be stuck in districts where they don't know anyone? Whatever, anything just to get them out of my hair for a couple weeks, because it's really about the kids
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Also @justwin there's a rich VC in SF who might hire your wife for his #microschool
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The guy just wants a thoughtful debate
https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1292883442351267840
Given these universal truths, I suggest we all start thinking creatively and share our learnings while ignoring the crazy, vocal minority of virtue-signaling communists who hate innovation and want their lives run by our dysfunctional government … you know, the same government that has us spending more and getting less from education today, and which is performing in last place when it comes to dealing with the crisis.
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I honestly don't know if those parents think that will happen. At the same time, I also think they're at the point where if they can get the kids out of the house 5 days a week for a few weeks or a couple months, it will be worth it to them. If those other districts go online or hybrid at some point, I'm sure 383 will already be there. In that case, they won't be worse off and will have gotten some time where the kids are in school 5 days a week.
They’d be worse off in that they’d have put their kids every weekday into a cesspool that eventually had to be shut down, and whatever came with that.
Also will 383 just take them back? Or will they be stuck in districts where they don't know anyone? Whatever, anything just to get them out of my hair for a couple weeks, because it's really about the kids
Yep, and if the 5-day-a-week schools fill up, these parents could send the kids off with some of the wayfair cabinet traffickers and have absolutely no WFH interruptions.
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I am sending my kids and I am going to work. I think there is a good chance the schools get shut down, but I think it is worth it to send them rather than trying to finagle a home school situation.
i mean, if you're sending yourself, you might as well send the children too.
this is honestly it, we've become a bit doompilled about trying to cocoon up and avoid what's coming.
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I am sending my kids and I am going to work. I think there is a good chance the schools get shut down, but I think it is worth it to send them rather than trying to finagle a home school situation.
i mean, if you're sending yourself, you might as well send the children too.
this is honestly it, we've become a bit doompilled about trying to cocoon up and avoid what's coming.
Make sure you do all the Fatty Fund work we discussed before you’re inevitably virus’d.
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our district is going 5 days a week in school, which is what we decided, but now after seeing other schools already in session have issues, and neighboring districts going only 2 days in school, rest virtual, we're having second thoughts.
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it's kinda hard to see this as anything other than trying to lock up tuition and appease critics by intially opening, knowing full well they'd soon need to close. like, they can't have thought this wouldn't happen.
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1295465434783731712
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does make you question what everyone's collective expectations were to change course so quickly, also I wouldn't doubt if it was a reaction to media coverage more than to viral spread.
no I think plenty of people expected this to happen and the reaction but felt they needed to open anyway. The dean of their public health school had a pretty good post about how complicated the decision was
https://twitter.com/UNCpublichealth/status/1295416976395898882
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This timing is amusing.
https://twitter.com/eddy_sarah/status/1295466287540383744
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Blue valley board voted to scrap the county gating criteria and come up with their own.
Shawnee mission starting remotely.
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Olathe starting remote for middle and high schools
Elementary is hybrid god damn it.
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This timing is amusing.
https://twitter.com/eddy_sarah/status/1295466287540383744
Why would anyone want to cancel their tuition anyways? Wtf else are u going to do? Also, unc is a very hard school to get into.
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My daughter has been to high school for a week now. Two cases in the high school in the week. About 2000 kids.
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My daughter has been to high school for a week now. Two cases in the high school in the week. About 2000 kids.
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That seems pretty good!
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My daughter has been to high school for a week now. Two cases in the high school in the week. About 2000 kids.
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That seems pretty good!
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Totally. What's the county caseload like IC?
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Collin County Health Care Services reported 210 new cases of the coronavirus Tuesday, bringing the total number of cases since March to 10,379.
The school district is in Collin and Denton county but most students are in Collin.
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5 cases district wide. 14k kids in district.
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i think i saw some crap being talked about collin county by some beto people i follow. are they testing anyone?
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nevermind, it was collin college they were talking crap on.
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:lol:
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https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/education/article245190750.html
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https://twitter.com/wsyx6/status/1298228513217171456
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1.46% of enrolled students.
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1.46% of enrolled students.
The University of Alabama COVID dashboard isn't very good. For instance, you can't see how many students they tested over the past week or the positivity rate.
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1.46% of enrolled students.
The University of Alabama COVID dashboard isn't very good. For instance, you can't see how many students they tested over the past week or the positivity rate.
I assume they're keeping track of that to see how if it looks like it's getting out of hand. whether or not students should know those numbers to adjust their behavior :dunno: maybe some other communication would be better for that
Agreed, I'm just stating that's why the 1.46% of enrolled students testing positive isn't much of an indicator. I've seen dashboards from other institutions where that information is available. 500 cases in a week is a lot, though.
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UIUC has a decent dashboard
https://splunk-public.machinedata.illinois.edu:8000/en-US/app/uofi_shield_public_APP/home
not sure how close they're tracking to this but it looks like they may have more confirmed initial cases than they were projecting
https://twitter.com/CTHerman/status/1296873660670771202/photo/1
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side note K-State does not seem to have a dashboard and we're hoping to test 10% of dorm residents weekly
https://www.k-state.edu/today/announcement/?id=67106
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First world Alabama doesn’t seem to be handling this very well.
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I lol'd
https://twitter.com/lmao_howsway/status/1298281859256852480
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I lol'd
https://twitter.com/lmao_howsway/status/1298281859256852480
the best tweets are the simplest
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Online school started today for a high schooler and middle schooler. It was kinda chaotic at the last minute with a shitload of emails and minor changes but I think it'll be OK.
Format is three or 4 classes per semester, with classes 4 days a week and Wednesday is kind of an office hours/homework day. Every class has a period of full class instruction, a break with solo work, and small group zoom breakout rooms. Granted it was day one but both kids were pretty positive about the whole thing and I think it can be a good experience for them.
Also can see this further knocking down the covid numbers because kids won't be running around town all day which could do us some good here.
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Almost 3 weeks of in-person classes for my daughter. Only 3 cases of COVID so far. Way better than I was expecting.
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2 weeks plus one trial run day for us. No cases yet that I know of.
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Almost 3 weeks of in-person classes for my daughter. Only 3 cases of COVID so far. Way better than I was expecting.
Great news
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bama's gonna burn right through this
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/1299852581812887552
https://twitter.com/JeremyKonyndyk/status/1300063163753299969
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2 weeks plus one trial run day for us. No cases yet that I know of.
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there is a greater than zero chance we may personally be responsible for breaking this streak. drive through test tomorrow at 8 AM. both kids have barky coughs and 4 year old puked last night. no fevers though. just a cold? allergies and unrelated barfing? stay tuned folks.
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also it would seem strange that both adults are asymptomatic and both kids have symptoms right? that gives me hope that this is something else at least.
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2 weeks plus one trial run day for us. No cases yet that I know of.
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there is a greater than zero chance we may personally be responsible for breaking this streak. drive through test tomorrow at 8 AM. both kids have barky coughs and 4 year old puked last night. no fevers though. just a cold? allergies and unrelated barfing? stay tuned folks.
T&p
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also it would seem strange that both adults are asymptomatic and both kids have symptoms right? that gives me hope that this is something else at least.
I'm guessing you are OK but one explanation might be that they caught it at school and you are a couple days behind. but according to the alex berensons and clay travises* of the world kids don't even get symptoms.
(*side note! it's weird how I follow those awful contrarians and am subconsciously influenced by them even if I know they are morons and kinda evil in their motives. I think it's because they're telling people what I want to hear amid lots of unknowns.)
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also it would seem strange that both adults are asymptomatic and both kids have symptoms right? that gives me hope that this is something else at least.
I'm guessing you are OK but one explanation might be that they caught it at school and you are a couple days behind. but according to the alex berensons and clay travises* of the world kids don't even get symptoms.
(*side note! it's weird how I follow those awful contrarians and am subconsciously influenced by them even if I know they are morons and kinda evil in their motives. I think it's because they're telling people what I want to hear amid lots of unknowns.)
I am like 95% influenced by them. Hearing good news in this crap is a dopamine
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first day of school tomorrow!
I will update this thread soon.
One school in my district had a policy of only 20 desks per classroom to promote "social distancing" but then still had class sizes above 20 but refused to add more desks! Very cool! Teachers are bringing yoga mats and finding random chairs to bring to their classrooms.
As for me, I have 25+ students. in a room, desks spaced apart as much as I can, assigned seats for 9 weeks with no movement, everyone facing forward for 2 hour long classes so that I can teach a semester in 9 weeks to prevent too many students in the hall for passing periods.
I think I can take students outside and as long as they are 6 feet apart they can take their masks off, going to probably try to do that as much as possible weather allowing.
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One school in my district had a policy of only 20 desks per classroom to promote "social distancing" but then still had class sizes above 20 but refused to add more desks! Very cool! Teachers are bringing yoga mats and finding random chairs to bring to their classrooms.
sounds like a great way to place the blame on the students and teachers if there's an outbreak! very wise, administrators
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The HIPAA interpretation the district is using to limit information on positive cases/very limited contract tracing is also seemingly designed to just keep this jalopy moving down the road without doing much quarantining. We will see!
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Damn, they’ve thought of everything. Cool!
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Daughter’s high school had their 4th case Friday.
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Read an article from Lawrence about how they can’t accommodate all the teachers that opted to teach remotely.
I wonder how many teachers resigning it will take to completely take down the district???
Doesn’t seem like it would take very many.
Olathe has become an absolute cesspool off teacher/union hate.
“If you don’t want to do your job then quit”
But in all seriousness what happens if people start quitting ???
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I doubt most teachers could afford to quit. liquidated damages and not being able to claim UI would be a pretty big double whammy.
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also it would seem strange that both adults are asymptomatic and both kids have symptoms right? that gives me hope that this is something else at least.
I'm guessing you are OK but one explanation might be that they caught it at school and you are a couple days behind. but according to the alex berensons and clay travises* of the world kids don't even get symptoms.
(*side note! it's weird how I follow those awful contrarians and am subconsciously influenced by them even if I know they are morons and kinda evil in their motives. I think it's because they're telling people what I want to hear amid lots of unknowns.)
I am like 95% influenced by them. Hearing good news in this crap is a dopamine
JB Handley was my drug
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https://twitter.com/HK_Barber/status/1300948270500458498
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https://twitter.com/HK_Barber/status/1300948270500458498
oh wow
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In our district you could sign up for hybrid or online only. We signed up for hybrid and the kids have their regular teachers and stuff. But people that wanted online only got this program called "Acellus" that is a pretty popular home school program but also is pretty goddam racist and parents were pissed when they found out.
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https://week.com/2020/08/26/pps-parents-outraged-after-racist-question-appears-in-kindergarten-social-studies-lesson/
I think Acellus is a KC company! And it's racist because that's what the home school parents wanted! Pretty wild that it made it nationwide!
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In our district you could sign up for hybrid or online only. We signed up for hybrid and the kids have their regular teachers and stuff. But people that wanted online only got this program called "Acellus" that is a pretty popular home school program but also is pretty goddam racist and parents were pissed when they found out.
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https://week.com/2020/08/26/pps-parents-outraged-after-racist-question-appears-in-kindergarten-social-studies-lesson/
I think Acellus is a KC company! And it's racist because that's what the home school parents wanted! Pretty wild that it made it nationwide!
Also, oh wow!
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https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1301929973859713025
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jesus rough ridin' christ from every possible angle on this one.
https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/1302234866164142080
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welp. positive case and our entire office staff is quarantining. COOL!
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I have a fourth grader and a sixth grader. In our district there are two fourth grade classes and two sixth grade classes, both classes opposite my kids are quarantined. My wife also teaches in both buildings.
Since I have not posted in this thread it's relevant to know that in the middle of Iowa, lousy with COVID, the district decided to proceed without any additional distancing, just a normal school day with an online option that a whole 7 students districtwide took. The choice wasn't really a choice for elementary students, if you took the online version you were only given math and english.
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Kinda surprising entire classes and office staffs are quarantining considering how secretive districts seem to want it to be. I mean it's good for slowing virus spread but are the teachers prepared?
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The online cirriculum is very impressive in our district and I hadn't even thought about how that is certainly not the case in many places.
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The online cirriculum is very impressive in our district and I hadn't even thought about how that is certainly not the case in many places.
Are your kids fully online?
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I have a fourth grader and a sixth grader. In our district there are two fourth grade classes and two sixth grade classes, both classes opposite my kids are quarantined. My wife also teaches in both buildings.
Since I have not posted in this thread it's relevant to know that in the middle of Iowa, lousy with COVID, the district decided to proceed without any additional distancing, just a normal school day with an online option that a whole 7 students districtwide took. The choice wasn't really a choice for elementary students, if you took the online version you were only given math and english.
sounds like hot garbage.
30%+ took online option here so it is very legit and a lot of good face-to-face instruction and we have all the digital tools to make it work. But yeah that is not the case a lot of places.
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The online cirriculum is very impressive in our district and I hadn't even thought about how that is certainly not the case in many places.
Are your kids fully online?
One of two is. The older one wanted to go in person. From what I can tell, everyone at the school is dilligently following guidelines.
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Our online student got a giant box of school supplies for free. I guess to ensure everyone has what they need. ??? They also have free breakfast and lunch available for pick up. All the older kids already had chromebooks, but they're now available to younger online students as well.
Meanwhile, I'm sure there are many schools not far from here that don't have jack crap.
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Kinda surprising entire classes and office staffs are quarantining considering how secretive districts seem to want it to be. I mean it's good for slowing virus spread but are the teachers prepared?
lol no. They didn't even get their in person schedules until three days before school was scheduled to start. My wife was trying to get the two principals who are her reports to get her schedule worked out between the two of them the Monday before they were supposed to start. Oh, I also failed to mention that last Monday was supposed to be the first day but they had to postpone to Thursday for both schools due to cleaning for another COVID outbreak.
Also part two of things I forgot. As discussed my wife teaches in both buildings but she never got any notice or guidance about the two classes in quarantine, she got the same email the rest of the district parents got. That 6th grade class is supposed to visit her class tomorrow and they still haven't told her anything despite the fact that she's supposed to be teaching them tomorrow. No virtual music for quarantined classes I guess.
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Our online student got a giant box of school supplies for free. I guess to ensure everyone has what they need. ??? They also have free breakfast and lunch available for pick up. All the older kids already had chromebooks, but they're now available to younger online students as well.
Meanwhile, I'm sure there are many schools not far from here that don't have jack crap.
Our district did do a great job getting everyone chromebooks, but it is also a rural district with a lot of students without high speed internet, on metered satellite internet.
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Update on lil sd he was negative as expected. Still has a hacking cough but back in school. Also got this today. This is the before/after child care at his school.
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https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1304502679482310659
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https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1304502679482310659
How did the cops know the kid had covid?
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https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1304502679482310659
How did the cops know the kid had covid?
But after scanning the ID of one of the students who lives in the house, he saw a note on his computer that the student tested positive for COVID-19 just one week prior.
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https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1304502679482310659
How did the cops know the kid had covid?
But after scanning the ID of one of the students who lives in the house, he saw a note on his computer that the student tested positive for COVID-19 just one week prior.
Yeah I didn't realize they had that kind of info normally. Do they know if someone without a record is HIV+?
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https://www.kmbc.com/article/elementary-students-to-return-to-full-in-person-learning-in-blue-valley-schools-covid-19-coronavirus/34016836 (https://www.kmbc.com/article/elementary-students-to-return-to-full-in-person-learning-in-blue-valley-schools-covid-19-coronavirus/34016836) :party:
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District zoom class guidelines for parents
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Update on lil sd he was negative as expected. Still has a hacking cough but back in school. Also got this today. This is the before/after child care at his school.
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Neighbor kid thought he caught covid late this summer. Tested twice and quarantined for 14 days... negative. Still always coughing weeks later. Always freaks me out when he comes over coughing.
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District zoom class guidelines for parents
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I’ve come dangerously close to gracing Mrs nicname’s zoom meetings and nicname jr’s (last year) zoom classes with my only wearing underwear ass
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https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/1313441979087417344
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1319104227613036545
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I mean I get homeboys frustration, I've had at least one kid home almost every day since school started, but the time when the pandemic is trending worse than it ever has probably isn't the time to ramp up more school.
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this disease has really thrown a spotlight on how much parents hate spending time with their children.
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Right? So many people acting like they should get hazard pay for being full time parents, you're the one who raised the little bastards. If they're acting like fuckheads maybe look within.
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Kellis should block his kids.
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this disease has really thrown a spotlight on how much parents hate spending time with their children.
YES!
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this disease has really thrown a spotlight on how much parents hate spending time with their children.
YES!
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Omg yes. It'd be funny if it wasn't so goddamn terrible. I get being a parent is tough, and this makes it worse, but school has never supposed to be goddamn childcare. There will be a lot of messed up kids from this pandemic, and most is from them realizing their parents can't stand them.
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Haha, it's also entirely possible the kids hate being around the parents and therefore make their lives a living hell.
There's a mom whose daughter I coached a while back (and was awful, look at the youth coaching thread) who was getting WILD on the PTA and neighborhood facebook groups over it - like telling people that she was paying $600/month for her daughters' therapy and even had an ER visit because of covid and telling people who had friends die that it was anecdoctal. like WHAT??? And then it appears she completely deleted her facebook profile and every post along with it. Too bad.
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I sympathize with Kellis. It just made me think of the "shut up and dribble" nonsense.
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Haha, it's also entirely possible the kids hate being around the parents and therefore make their lives a living hell.
There's a mom whose daughter I coached a while back (and was awful, look at the youth coaching thread) who was getting WILD on the PTA and neighborhood facebook groups over it - like telling people that she was paying $600/month for her daughters' therapy and even had an ER visit because of covid and telling people who had friends die that it was anecdoctal. like WHAT??? And then it appears she completely deleted her facebook profile and every post along with it. Too bad.
Yes, my middle child loved me but hates the crap out of being at home with me because she's lazy a.f.
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Two martinis and a decent amount of crown deep and reporting that nicname jr. is actually the crap and a model citizen and genuinely great person, who while generally lazy (like nicname sr) is well ahead on all schoolwork (mostly in person, but some hybrid this week due to increased cases), and seemingly well adjusted and happy as ever.
Also rarely annoying.
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I mean I get homeboys frustration, I've had at least one kid home almost every day since school started, but the time when the pandemic is trending worse than it ever has probably isn't the time to ramp up more school.
It's not trending worse than it ever has in Riley County. Moreover, Riley County schools, Rock Creek and Wamego are not having a lot of issues with five day a week school.
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Posted in another thread but KU med docs have repeatedly stated that infections as a result of school openings/other large events aren't typically known for 6-8 weeks due to the speed of infection cycle.
No idea when the first schools started reopening but I don't think most have been open for more than a few weeks.
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Posted in another thread but KU med docs have repeatedly stated that infections as a result of school openings/other large events aren't typically known for 6-8 weeks due to the speed of infection cycle.
No idea when the first schools started reopening but I don't think most have been open for more than a few weeks.
Riley County and Rock Creek have been in session since August 20. Manhattan has been in session since August 26. Wamego started September 2-3. K-State has been in session since August 17.
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That’s good
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https://twitter.com/apoorva_nyc/status/1319408652311285761
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I am very much in favor of closing bars and restaurants and opening schools
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i'm happy to hear manhattan schools aren't reporting widespread transmission.
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our schools have been approved to be open K-6 since early October. They finally released a plan to reopen.
K-2 starts January 7, grades 3-5 start January 20. No date for middle and high school.
kids go to school 2 days a week, 90 minutes per day. It was going to be 4 days a week but they decided they needed more time to clean between cohorts so they're splitting them up to different days. goalposts constantly moving while the metro area and county has maybe the lowest infection rate in the country. And parents are like terrified of sending them back! It's unreal.
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Two martinis and a decent amount of crown deep and reporting that nicname jr. is actually the crap and a model citizen and genuinely great person, who while generally lazy (like nicname sr) is well ahead on all schoolwork (mostly in person, but some hybrid this week due to increased cases), and seemingly well adjusted and happy as ever.
Also rarely annoying.
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I'm not telling you how to parent, but that is a lot of alcohol for a school aged child.
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Smallville schools have been open for approx ten weeks with no known transmission in the schools. There have been some infected teachers but their infections weren’t work related and they had mild illness. Hope the trend continues.
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The Olathe parents in favor of in person learning Facebook group have turned into full blown masks don’t work, the unions are pulling the strings trying to keep kids out of schools maga.
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The Olathe parents in favor of in person learning Facebook group have turned into full blown masks don’t work, the unions are pulling the strings trying to keep kids out of schools maga.
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Yeah I was kind of swayed into the "at least they're doing something" camp on FB in the hopes that it won't lead to an explosion of cases and things can continue to progrsss. But there's definitely some folks that think this is a half assed plan so they don't actually need to do anything on campus this school year. Like they'll make it suck so much that no parents will want to come back.
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The Olathe parents in favor of in person learning Facebook group have turned into full blown masks don’t work, the unions are pulling the strings trying to keep kids out of schools maga.
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Is there a similar group in DeSoto?
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I've had it with suburban moms and their behavior towards in person learning. The people with the most privilege are the most vocal against even hybrid learning. It's stunning how much these people hate spending time with their children.
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I've had it with suburban moms and their behavior towards in person learning. The people with the most privilege are the most vocal against even hybrid learning. It's stunning how much these people hate spending time with their children.
it's crazy how different things are out here. Our county of like 1.7 million people that includes all of Oakland has a new daily infection rate about 15% of the infection rate of Linn and Polk counties in Iowa. Wealthy suburban moms are terrified of even the 4 hour per week hybrid and trying to figure out how to opt out. Other than the mom who shared that her kid is in therapy and had to go to the ER there aren't people going crazy to get kids back into school. These are very very privileged people.
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I've had it with suburban moms and their behavior towards in person learning. The people with the most privilege are the most vocal against even hybrid learning. It's stunning how much these people hate spending time with their children.
it's crazy how different things are out here. Our county of like 1.7 million people that includes all of Oakland has a new daily infection rate about 15% of the infection rate of Linn and Polk counties in Iowa. Wealthy suburban moms are terrified of even the 4 hour per week hybrid and trying to figure out how to opt out. Other than the mom who shared that her kid is in therapy and had to go to the ER there aren't people going crazy to get kids back into school. These are very very privileged people.
It's the total opposite here, there isn't a week that has gone by since August without some suburban school district being protested or forced to take a vote to eliminate their hybrid model. A couple of weeks ago there is a woman who went on camera and admitted that she and her husband own a business they run from home. She intentionally took her kids to their suburban school on a day that wasn't their day and told the school the kids are their responsibility now. Not only did this woman have the audacity (caucacity) to do this, she called a news station to tell them she did it. The school did nothing, they took the kids, the news station ran the story, then she started a Facebook group for other mothers in this district, Southeast Polk, to pressure the school to drop the hybrid model. The group has a thousand members.
I found one of the stories about this bad person.
https://who13.com/news/southeast-polk-mom-vows-to-take-a-stand-drops-kids-off-at-school-on-virtual-learning-days/
eff her for claiming her family can't financially afford to continue hybrid learning. We have become such a selfish society, it's hopeless.
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The Olathe parents in favor of in person learning Facebook group have turned into full blown masks don’t work, the unions are pulling the strings trying to keep kids out of schools maga.
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Is there a similar group in DeSoto?
I doubt it. There’s probably a let them play group but I think desoto has been going full on everything since the beginning.
Olathe opened hybrid/remote and is now hybrid. Elementary is open.
Joco cases have spiked though 273 cases in the last two weeks which might be a record. % positive is 8.4 under new formula that counts multiple negatives. Old formula that didn’t count multiple negatives is about 15% I believe.
My wife coaches bball and they have been told seasons are full go no matter what.
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I've had it with suburban moms and their behavior towards in person learning. The people with the most privilege are the most vocal against even hybrid learning. It's stunning how much these people hate spending time with their children.
The prospect that they might have to actually stay at home versus gym/nails/hair/Von Maur has really revealed that stay at home moms weren't staying at home for crap and don't want to.
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I've had it with suburban moms and their behavior towards in person learning. The people with the most privilege are the most vocal against even hybrid learning. It's stunning how much these people hate spending time with their children.
The prospect that they might have to actually stay at home versus gym/nails/hair/Von Maur has really revealed that stay at home moms weren't staying at home for crap and don't want to.
Obviously the dads are complicit too, but at least here, it's the moms always on television and in the newspaper showing their asses.
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Three Iowa teachers have died in less than a week. The latest was a 37 year old man who died three days after his diagnosis. His only reported symptom before his diagnosis was a slight headache. His family said he had no underlying health conditions.
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Terrifying and sad
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I've had it with suburban moms and their behavior towards in person learning. The people with the most privilege are the most vocal against even hybrid learning. It's stunning how much these people hate spending time with their children.
The prospect that they might have to actually stay at home versus gym/nails/hair/Von Maur has really revealed that stay at home moms weren't staying at home for crap and don't want to.
Obviously the dads are complicit too, but at least here, it's the moms always on television and in the newspaper showing their asses.
The moms are the worst and loudest, the loud dads are just super maga libertarians
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Our school just called the entire week of Thanksgiving so people could quarantine before doing their ill advised family gatherings. IMO they should have called the week after to let the inevitable cases shake out. Either way though I doubt ours go back in person after thanksgiving given the case/hospitalization/death trends.
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Our school just called the entire week of Thanksgiving so people could quarantine before doing their ill advised family gatherings. IMO they should have called the week after to let the inevitable cases shake out. Either way though I doubt ours go back in person after thanksgiving given the case/hospitalization/death trends.
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I mean it's not exactly their area of expertise, but I don't think schools are very good at this. That seems like a crazy plan/idea. If anything they should be encouraging people to not have family gatherings.
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I don't think it would go over really well if the grade school told families not to get together for thanksgiving
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I don't think it would go over really well if the grade school told families not to get together for thanksgiving
Yeah like I said it's not their job, they shouldn't have to make any public health calls without pointing to clear guidelines from health experts. Maybe they are leaning on experts but regardless you're probably right that most suburban Omaha families will do whatever the hell they want no matter who discourages large gatherings.
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Symptomatic offspring of barefacing MAGA types who have confirmed infections have been spotted in my kids' schools.
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One of my daughter's best friend's tested positive on Tuesday so my daughter is home until after Thanksgiving.
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Our school just called the entire week of Thanksgiving so people could quarantine before doing their ill advised family gatherings.
good idea, imo, probably will save lives.
would have been great to hand out rapid at-home antigen tests too, but those probably still aren't available (haven't really kept track).
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Our school just called the entire week of Thanksgiving so people could quarantine before doing their ill advised family gatherings.
good idea, imo, probably will save lives.
would have been great to hand out rapid at-home antigen tests too, but those probably still aren't available (haven't really kept track).
it is a thoughtful gesture but those families are just going to grandma's early
this is MY hyvee
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it is a thoughtful gesture but those families are just going to grandma's early
can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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very true
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i'm happy to hear manhattan schools aren't reporting widespread transmission.
2 days a week with small class sizes and the rest remote.
They just said they are going back 5 days a week in January, probably just in time for my district to be fully remote at the rate we are going with cases and quarantines.
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Joco health has all but said schools are not spreading but the community spread is so bad that it’s only a matter of time before they will need to.
County commissioners meet tomorrow
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lol
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strong grumblings that usd 383 will be completely online here very soon
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All joco is going back remote in secondary except for Olathe. Elementary is staying in person.
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blue valley staying in person, at least for elementary
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Fixed
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NYC school district just pulled the plug.
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Who could have ever thought that putting a big dumb moron in the oval would end up having terrible repercussions? :ck:
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All joco is going back remote in secondary except for Olathe. Elementary is staying in person.
I'm guessing Olathe will follow suit soon.
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Who could have ever thought that putting a big dumb moron in the oval would end up having terrible repercussions? :ck:
true, every other country isn't spiking at all. I know he's an idiot but good lord there was nothing stopping this train.
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Who could have ever thought that putting a big dumb moron in the oval would end up having terrible repercussions? :ck:
true, every other country isn't spiking at all. I know he's an idiot but good lord there was nothing stopping this train.
European countries have managed to keep schools open.
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Who could have ever thought that putting a big dumb moron in the oval would end up having terrible repercussions? :ck:
true, every other country isn't spiking at all. I know he's an idiot but good lord there was nothing stopping this train.
European countries have managed to keep schools open.
And?
can't speak for other school districts but I'm honestly not sure what else could've been done at the schools here in MHK other than turning each kid into bubble boy and girl.
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itk intel from BV is lack of subs for teachers in quarantining due to contact tracing
i am expecting an all online announcement on Friday
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Covid really impacting my daughters high school.
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Kshsaa recommends suspending winter sports until Jan 15.
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true, every other country isn't spiking at all. I know he's an idiot but good lord there was nothing stopping this train.
European countries have managed to keep schools open.
And?
can't speak for other school districts but I'm honestly not sure what else could've been done at the schools here in MHK other than turning each kid into bubble boy and girl.
asian countries skipped both the spring and fall waves.
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true, every other country isn't spiking at all. I know he's an idiot but good lord there was nothing stopping this train.
European countries have managed to keep schools open.
And?
can't speak for other school districts but I'm honestly not sure what else could've been done at the schools here in MHK other than turning each kid into bubble boy and girl.
asian countries skipped both the spring and fall waves.
y-l-a, I don't blame Trump per se for the pandemic, but I do think the do nothing tact hurt this country in things like not providing leadership or guidance on how we can educate our children. I saw a news story that outlined the measures that these European countries did to keep their children safe, but I couldn't find it. They have done an excellent job in keeping their students safe.
sys, are you aware of any measures these Asian countries have done to support at home learning? The reason it doesn't work here is that there has been no support for the students doing it. I think a lack of a stimulus has hurt school children the most. The narrative that we didn't want to pay people to sit at home essentially ensured that many school children on complete virtual or hybrid learning would have no support.
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sys, are you aware of any measures these Asian countries have done to support at home learning?
no, no idea. i'd assumed that most asian countries probably had in-person classes.
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true, every other country isn't spiking at all. I know he's an idiot but good lord there was nothing stopping this train.
European countries have managed to keep schools open.
And?
can't speak for other school districts but I'm honestly not sure what else could've been done at the schools here in MHK other than turning each kid into bubble boy and girl.
asian countries skipped both the spring and fall waves.
To be fair, I doubt MHK schools themselves could have done much more given they have zero control over the community at large.
What should infuriate everyone is that schools are closing but bars and restaurants aren't.
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Back to virtual only in Kentucky. Kid isn't happy.
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I read that in Germany’s largest district kids are completely cohorted in groups of about 20 during the school day and that if one kid goes down then the class and teachers are in quarantine.
That’s laughable compared to how things are going around here.
Saying “well Europe is in person” is quite a stretch of you are arguing that we can too.
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Not to mention they are able to contact trace and test widely for free
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I read that in Germany’s largest district kids are completely cohorted in groups of about 20 during the school day and that if one kid goes down then the class and teachers are in quarantine.
That’s laughable compared to how things are going around here.
Saying “well Europe is in person” is quite a stretch of you are arguing that we can too.
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This is exactly how my district's middle and high school is doing it, only the cohorts are 10 or fewer in size. Also, they are going two days a week with remote the other three. KC area school on KS side.
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good read on how schools fit into the reopening equation
https://twitter.com/ProfEmilyOster/status/1328303342515326976
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I read that in Germany’s largest district kids are completely cohorted in groups of about 20 during the school day and that if one kid goes down then the class and teachers are in quarantine.
That’s laughable compared to how things are going around here.
Saying “well Europe is in person” is quite a stretch of you are arguing that we can too.
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This is exactly how my district's middle and high school is doing it, only the cohorts are 10 or fewer in size. Also, they are going two days a week with remote the other three. KC area school on KS side.
yeah this is a district to district issue. some schools are just overpopulated and it is not even remotely possible to do this.
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good read on how schools fit into the reopening equation
https://twitter.com/ProfEmilyOster/status/1328303342515326976
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Prioritizing schools would also mean providing more resources to open safely. The main way we can help schools is by controlling community spread. But making teachers and others feel safe at school is also key. This means requiring masks, yes, but also providing good PPE and, ideally, improving ventilation. It means better testing and screening — both symptomatic and asymptomatic — and money for substitutes. Financial woes have always been a part of the landscape of public schools in America, partly because this isn’t the first time we failed to prioritize them. This has made it worse.
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good read on how schools fit into the reopening equation
https://twitter.com/ProfEmilyOster/status/1328303342515326976
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Prioritizing schools would also mean providing more resources to open safely. The main way we can help schools is by controlling community spread. But making teachers and others feel safe at school is also key. This means requiring masks, yes, but also providing good PPE and, ideally, improving ventilation. It means better testing and screening — both symptomatic and asymptomatic — and money for substitutes. Financial woes have always been a part of the landscape of public schools in America, partly because this isn’t the first time we failed to prioritize them. This has made it worse.
Probably helps that Europe didn't have the Leader of the Free world screeching about the fake news china virus for months on end.
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I read that in Germany’s largest district kids are completely cohorted in groups of about 20 during the school day and that if one kid goes down then the class and teachers are in quarantine.
That’s laughable compared to how things are going around here.
Saying “well Europe is in person” is quite a stretch of you are arguing that we can too.
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I supervise a school that does exactly this, well did. In the 6 weeks that they ran this plan no student or teacher missed a single day of school.
Those schools in Germany are staying open during the latest spike, we aren't.
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Olathe, Shawnee mission and blue valley are absolutely not doing it like that.
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https://fb.watch/4K8BPxyPpD/
Hooo boy Linus has a lot of zeal
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https://fb.watch/4K8BPxyPpD/
Hooo boy Linus has a lot of zeal
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Tell us what's happening, I'm certain no one will invest 90 minutes to find out. Got a specific time stamp?
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just watch the first 2 minutes of this dude.
5 ish parents don't want their kid to wear a mask at school.
The Kansas state Senate passed a law that requires boards to have a hearing for parents. (most districts already have a process for this that doesn't require a hearing but Ks senate gonna ks senate)
meeting on Monday or Tuesday got cancelled because some guy in an infowars hat refused to wear a mask.
Meeting is held virtually the next morning. Old dude is raging because he doesn't know what's going on and thinks they are trying to violate his rights etc.
first 3-5 parents request a continuance because they want council present. Arbitrator says they might not be given a continuance because the law is vague and the district already did their part by providing a meeting, if parent chooses not to present their case then he can't promise another time. (PS, they can just fill out and turn in the request paperwork)
Old boy gets up at the end and turns out his grandkid isn't enrolled in blue valley at all because they refuse to vax him but he takes up like an hour of time to argue and "cross examine".
PS, due to the state statute the districts have to pay the arbitrator for their time. This was Blue valley
some dad in Olathe showed and they explained to him how to make a written request for mask exemption and that they've had that option all year.
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https://fb.watch/4K8BPxyPpD/
Hooo boy Linus has a lot of zeal
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Tell us what's happening, I'm certain no one will invest 90 minutes to find out. Got a specific time stamp?
Well I did watch it and I will time stamp it for anyone else who wants to. I would strongly recommend all of our attorneys, anyone legal adjacent, or anyone like me who regrets not going to law school. If you're none of those but love /r/PublicFreakout, then you should watch too.
So the guy losing his crap is an attorney who is representing his wife and his school aged son. Pretty sure he has a pending lawsuit against the school board and he's only there to try to trip up the school district. Dude is the poster child for conflict of interest.
Frankly, the guy is an bad person and he's an idiot. How does an attorney not know the difference between a court hearing and an arbitration?
Anyway, the time stamps.
0:00-3:00 arguing about his lack of knowledge of technology
25:00-48:00 his testimony, dude is a complete anti-vaxer, anti-mask loon
1:20-1:37 his "cross examination" of the district which is composed of him not knowing the rules of the proceeding and just clumsily trying to trap the district into a FERPA violation. Also completely doxxing his own wife and kid. I hope for the kid's sake he's like in 2nd grade, otherwise he's gonna need to move.
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https://twitter.com/bvschools/status/1380345874300104707
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https://fb.watch/4K8BPxyPpD/
Hooo boy Linus has a lot of zeal
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Tell us what's happening, I'm certain no one will invest 90 minutes to find out. Got a specific time stamp?
Well I did watch it and I will time stamp it for anyone else who wants to. I would strongly recommend all of our attorneys, anyone legal adjacent, or anyone like me who regrets not going to law school. If you're none of those but love /r/PublicFreakout, then you should watch too.
So the guy losing his crap is an attorney who is representing his wife and his school aged son. Pretty sure he has a pending lawsuit against the school board and he's only there to try to trip up the school district. Dude is the poster child for conflict of interest.
Frankly, the guy is an bad person and he's an idiot. How does an attorney not know the difference between a court hearing and an arbitration?
Anyway, the time stamps.
0:00-3:00 arguing about his lack of knowledge of technology
25:00-48:00 his testimony, dude is a complete anti-vaxer, anti-mask loon
1:20-1:37 his "cross examination" of the district which is composed of him not knowing the rules of the proceeding and just clumsily trying to trap the district into a FERPA violation. Also completely doxxing his own wife and kid. I hope for the kid's sake he's like in 2nd grade, otherwise he's gonna need to move.
holy crap, he was redassed dickhead from the start. webinars vs. meetings are confusing the first time!
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https://fb.watch/4K8BPxyPpD/
Hooo boy Linus has a lot of zeal
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Tell us what's happening, I'm certain no one will invest 90 minutes to find out. Got a specific time stamp?
Well I did watch it and I will time stamp it for anyone else who wants to. I would strongly recommend all of our attorneys, anyone legal adjacent, or anyone like me who regrets not going to law school. If you're none of those but love /r/PublicFreakout, then you should watch too.
So the guy losing his crap is an attorney who is representing his wife and his school aged son. Pretty sure he has a pending lawsuit against the school board and he's only there to try to trip up the school district. Dude is the poster child for conflict of interest.
Frankly, the guy is an bad person and he's an idiot. How does an attorney not know the difference between a court hearing and an arbitration?
Anyway, the time stamps.
0:00-3:00 arguing about his lack of knowledge of technology
25:00-48:00 his testimony, dude is a complete anti-vaxer, anti-mask loon
1:20-1:37 his "cross examination" of the district which is composed of him not knowing the rules of the proceeding and just clumsily trying to trap the district into a FERPA violation. Also completely doxxing his own wife and kid. I hope for the kid's sake he's like in 2nd grade, otherwise he's gonna need to move.
Right!
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Like, school is almost over you maga cucks. If they have a mask mandate next year then you can get all maga butthurt
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Judge ruled that all the recent mask challenges have no merit because the challenge had to come within 30 days of its creation which has looooooong passed
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Parents can still request exemption or get drs notes
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https://twitter.com/SlangsOnSports/status/1385676410719715331
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:lol: