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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: bucket on June 06, 2020, 10:03:44 AM
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Farmers market last week: 50% of people wearing masks
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Farmers market this week: 20% of people wearing masks
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I gotta say it really depends on the time for the Price Chopper I go to. Even in the last week I went there 3 times, one time maybe 10% wore them, another, like 75%, the other, like just under 50%.
Home Depot when I go is pretty consistently just less than 50%.
Weirdest (but going to be obvious) difference was stopping at a QT in westport and it was maybe 2 people in a crowded area with them, and then dropping off something at KU med and it was obviously 100%.
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everyone wears masks in stores here. Although last was at a high end grocery store and saw a middle aged white lady grab a peach, pull down her mask, put the peach to her nose and smell it, and put the peach back into the pile. was crazy.
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How else was she supposed to figure out if the peach was ripe enough?
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Voting last Tuesday 100% usage.
Farmers market today downtown KC 25%?
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Both seem prudent
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Farmers market this week: 20% of people wearing masks
Thought it looked better today, but if I'm being honest with myself it was at 20%
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Farmer's market seems pretty low risk
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Farmer's market seems pretty low risk
The booths are more spaced out and smaller crowds.
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i was away from fresno in fairly smallish towns in the west valley this week. mask use at hotel and stores maybe 25%, maybe lower.
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i was away from fresno in fairly smallish towns in the west valley this week. mask use at hotel and stores maybe 25%, maybe lower.
I'm in Groveland on the way to Yosemite and it looks to be about 5% overall and 0% at the restaurant we're at
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Local donut shop this morning
2/10 mask wearers
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0 to 5 at lake of the Ozarks
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i was away from fresno in fairly smallish towns in the west valley this week. mask use at hotel and stores maybe 25%, maybe lower.
I'm in Groveland on the way to Yosemite and it looks to be about 5% overall and 0% at the restaurant we're at
Oooh Yosemite, jealous :thumbs:
Ditto
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I was vision questing all over WY this past week and hardly saw any masks
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I was vision questing all over WY this past week and hardly saw any masks
If you were vision questioning that'd be a whole another thread
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There is no Covid at scheels in Overland Park
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Few masks in restaurants for lunch yesterday. Went to bed bath and beyond afterward with gf without my mask. i looked like an outcast. 9/10 masks in there.
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0 to 5 at lake of the Ozarks
Confirmed. No lake people wearing masks although I didn't really go into many places. Sedelia restaurant employees were all masked up.
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Home Depot on Sunday: about 1/3 of customers and about half of employees were masked up.
Wamego grocery store last night: ZERO...POINT...ZERO percent of customers and employees had a mask. A couple of people looked at me like I was a space alien for wearing one.
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I was in NW Arkansas over the weekend to see family and friends. My bro hadn't met my son yet and he's 9 months old, so we took the risk. Anyways, I was surprised to find out how much more anal the state of Arkansas is compared to the KC Metro right now. They won't let you in anywhere without a mask down there. Went to a museum, had to wear a mask. They were selling them for $2 a pop at most places.
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I was in NW Arkansas over the weekend to see family and friends. My bro hadn't met my son yet and he's 9 months old, so we took the risk. Anyways, I was surprised to find out how much more anal the state of Arkansas is compared to the KC Metro right now. They won't let you in anywhere without a mask down there. Went to a museum, had to wear a mask. They were selling them for $2 a pop at most places.
Good for Arkansas
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Grocery Store (Publix): 70% Mask Usage (100% staff) Major props for attentive staff to wiping down carts and counting patron levels
Home Depot: 50% Mask Usage (25% staff) Substantial fall off in monitoring shopper levels week over week however it appeared to be below thresholds, substantial fall off in wiping down carts
Hair Cut: 100% Mask usage (100% staff) health questionnaire, temp taking
Haven't visited any bars or restaurants on a dine-in basis
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Indoors: close to 100% - required by law, except while seated at a table in a restaurant next to a large enough window
Outdoors: I'd say 60% on busier streets, 25% on quieter streets
Had my temp taken on entry for a site visit to a large downtown office building last week (still primarily closed).
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Indoors: close to 100% - required by law, except while seated at a table in a restaurant next to a large enough window
Outdoors: I'd say 60% on busier streets, 25% on quieter streets
Had my temp taken on entry for a site visit to a large downtown office building last week (still primarily closed).
that's a weird law to enforce. So if not next to a "large enough window" still have to put a mask on between bites/sips?
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Indoors: close to 100% - required by law, except while seated at a table in a restaurant next to a large enough window
Outdoors: I'd say 60% on busier streets, 25% on quieter streets
Had my temp taken on entry for a site visit to a large downtown office building last week (still primarily closed).
that's a weird law to enforce. So if not next to a "large enough window" still have to put a mask on between bites/sips?
No, restaurants can only seat people there. Regular indoor dining is still prohibited. Didn’t phrase it well, only outdoor dining is allowed, with seats near very large windows considered “outdoor” for that purpose.
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Indoors: close to 100% - required by law, except while seated at a table in a restaurant next to a large enough window
Outdoors: I'd say 60% on busier streets, 25% on quieter streets
Had my temp taken on entry for a site visit to a large downtown office building last week (still primarily closed).
that's a weird law to enforce. So if not next to a "large enough window" still have to put a mask on between bites/sips?
No, restaurants can only seat people there. Regular indoor dining is still prohibited. Didn’t phrase it well, only outdoor dining is allowed, with seats near very large windows considered “outdoor” for that purpose.
ahh, okay like can only sit next to open garage door style windows inside? Makes sense.
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Go to a Dillon's or Hyvee in Topeka, about 20% wear masks at any given time.
Go to a Dillon's or Hyvee in Lawrence, about 80-90% wear masks at any given time.
Has to say something regarding the difference in the two communities.
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Indoors: close to 100% - required by law, except while seated at a table in a restaurant next to a large enough window
Outdoors: I'd say 60% on busier streets, 25% on quieter streets
Had my temp taken on entry for a site visit to a large downtown office building last week (still primarily closed).
that's a weird law to enforce. So if not next to a "large enough window" still have to put a mask on between bites/sips?
No, restaurants can only seat people there. Regular indoor dining is still prohibited. Didn’t phrase it well, only outdoor dining is allowed, with seats near very large windows considered “outdoor” for that purpose.
This works great for me as I exclusively sit by giant open windows at the finest establishment in Chicago. Sometimes I even sit in the window opening.
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Dropping off the Tesla at the service center, both customers and employees were 100% wearing. Was both weird and expected. Going to price chopper still merits I'd say about 50-60% usage of masks.
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Dropping off the Tesla at the service center, both customers and employees were 100% wearing. Was both weird and expected. Going to price chopper still merits I'd say about 50-60% usage of masks.
When people read all these news stories saying grocery shopping isn't a big risk, that doesn't shock me.
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YOSEMITE TRIP REPORT:
Groveland, CA restaurant: 0.0% (except my family, we ate on the patio)
Groveland, CA grocery store: 100% employees (clearly required, half of them were wearing them wrong), 20% customers (I'm guessing mostly tourists). There were signs everywhere asking people to wear masks but said they can't make you
Yosemite employees: 100% the first day, about 80% later on. They actually had a fantastic setup for buying souveniers from the bookstore to keep people from going inside but still get their stuff quickly
Yosemite guests: 10-20% on the Valley theme park trails and in restrooms and shops, less than 5% on the more isolated trails. I bet the number would drop to around 1% on trails and 5% inside if you took people of east asian descent.
Fruit stand in the valley about an hour from Oakland: 0% of employees (one person), 100% of customers (my family)
El Pollo Loco drive thru: 100% employees, looked like about half of them were wearing them incorrectly. Looked inside and would guess 20% of dine in guests were wearing them
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There is no Covid at my chiropractor. Only me and the crackers are masked.
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i was at 4 airports last week.
boarding & in-airplane: 100% (1 boomer dissenter who ultimately relented and wore a mask).
milling around airport: 50%
it's hard to know where/how to eat. the food court areas are swarmed with maskless derps and no distancing. do you take your food to the seating area by the gates, where more people are wearing masks, and guzzle your food like a jackass right in front of them? i would prefer not to eat at all at the airport obviously, but it was like 2pm and i had been up since 5 with nothing to eat.
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I picture airports being so empty that food courts are wide open but obviously I haven't been. Going to Yosemite made me fell like I'd been living in this weird bubble where everything has been going on as if everything was normal.
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the morning of my first flight AA emailed me and asked if i would take a $400 credit to fly on a later flight bc it was overbooked.
i think the number of flights is down, but people are definitely flying again.
anecdotally, i overheard a boomer conversation right behind me in the seating area, and it sounded like they had not seen people wearing masks before. where do these people live? i should have asked.
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There is no Covid at my chiropractor. Only me and the crackers are masked.
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Someone on a Zoom meeting today said that they took their kid to get their wisdom teeth taken out and no one had masks on at the dentist/oral surgeon's office.
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There is no Covid at my chiropractor. Only me and the crackers are masked.
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Someone on a Zoom meeting today said that they took their kid to get their wisdom teeth taken out and no one had masks on at the dentist/oral surgeon's office.
last month a relative of mine went to a rural KS ER and told me the nurses weren't wearing masks
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0.0% mask use in good ol' SEK :gocho:
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Am I right to be disgusted that I see roughly the same % of people in masks both outdoors in wide open spaces as I do inside at the grocery store?
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Am I right to be disgusted that I see roughly the same % of people in masks both outdoors in wide open spaces as I do inside at the grocery store?
very much so
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Am I right to be disgusted that I see roughly the same % of people in masks both outdoors in wide open spaces as I do inside at the grocery store?
I mean if it's 100% in both I think people are overly cautious but I wouldn't be disgusted.
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Am I right to be disgusted that I see roughly the same % of people in masks both outdoors in wide open spaces as I do inside at the grocery store?
I mean if it's 100% in both I think people are overly cautious but I wouldn't be disgusted.
I’d say about 60% across the board.
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Am I right to be disgusted that I see roughly the same % of people in masks both outdoors in wide open spaces as I do inside at the grocery store?
I mean if it's 100% in both I think people are overly cautious but I wouldn't be disgusted.
I’d say about 60% across the board.
Yikes. I can't believe masks aren't mandatory in grocery stores
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Am I right to be disgusted that I see roughly the same % of people in masks both outdoors in wide open spaces as I do inside at the grocery store?
I mean if it's 100% in both I think people are overly cautious but I wouldn't be disgusted.
I’d say about 60% across the board.
Yikes. I can't believe masks aren't mandatory in grocery stores
The sign at last week’s said they are “strongly encouraged.”
My disgust at its core is at the overall messaging, carrying on from day 1 “masks don’t help.” There is logic to masks and if presented correctly, most people would abide, I think. That so many are wearing masks OUTSIDE makes me think many wear or don’t wear masks as a demonstration of politics rather than because of logically understanding the benefits in situations.
Maybe america is just too dumb regardless of how well information is communicated.
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Businesses here are now subject to being fined if they allow customers without a mask. $500 per violation.
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Am I right to be disgusted that I see roughly the same % of people in masks both outdoors in wide open spaces as I do inside at the grocery store?
I mean if it's 100% in both I think people are overly cautious but I wouldn't be disgusted.
I’d say about 60% across the board.
Yikes. I can't believe masks aren't mandatory in grocery stores
The sign at last week’s said they are “strongly encouraged.”
My disgust at its core is at the overall messaging, carrying on from day 1 “masks don’t help.” There is logic to masks and if presented correctly, most people would abide, I think. That so many are wearing masks OUTSIDE makes me think many wear or don’t wear masks as a demonstration of politics rather than because of logically understanding the benefits in situations.
Maybe america is just too dumb regardless of how well information is communicated.
the mask messaging has been horrible from the start.
I don't think wearing masks outside is necessarily a demonstration of politics, I look at it as a low-effort way to let people around know I give a crap about them not getting sick, even if I think the risk of infection outside is pretty minimal.
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I'm about 98% maskless outside, 100% mask-on inside except for homes.
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When I see people wearing masks inside their cars, I kind of shake my head, but good for them I guess.
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There is no Covid at my chiropractor. Only me and the crackers are masked.
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Someone on a Zoom meeting today said that they took their kid to get their wisdom teeth taken out and no one had masks on at the dentist/oral surgeon's office.
There’s no way this is true FWIW and if so, they could get in a crap ton of trouble for it. Like action hits on their license.
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I can't believe masks aren't mandatory in grocery stores
Friday.
Effective June 26, a statewide order requires individuals to wear a face covering in indoor public spaces such as stores, offices and restaurants. The order also requires face coverings outdoors when you can't stay 6 feet apart from others.
https://coronavirus.wa.gov/information-for/you-and-your-family/face-masks-or-cloth-face-covering
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There is no Covid at my chiropractor. Only me and the crackers are masked.
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Someone on a Zoom meeting today said that they took their kid to get their wisdom teeth taken out and no one had masks on at the dentist/oral surgeon's office.
There’s no way this is true FWIW and if so, they could get in a crap ton of trouble for it. Like action hits on their license.
It wasn't in the operating room or whatever you call it at a dentist/oral surgeon's office. It was in the waiting room and the receptionist, and I'm assuming the dental hygienist when they come get you.
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I can't believe masks aren't mandatory in grocery stores
Friday.
Effective June 26, a statewide order requires individuals to wear a face covering in indoor public spaces such as stores, offices and restaurants. The order also requires face coverings outdoors when you can't stay 6 feet apart from others.
https://coronavirus.wa.gov/information-for/you-and-your-family/face-masks-or-cloth-face-covering
Can’t believe that isn’t true across the board everywhere to be honest
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Menards in KC area requires mask. A guy had on a paper mask with SCAM written on it in sharpie.
HyVee and Walmart trips its 60 pct mask 40 pct no mask
Dentist everyone in masks, temp check, 20 questions, wash hands, mouth wash before they started.
Home Depot about 20 pct masks... cashiers in phone booth like plexiglass at checkout.
Mom and Pop hardware store no masks, no plexiglass, nothing.
Ate out once and every other table used. Waitress wore a mask.
Still no church for us, but passed another small neighborhood church last Sunday and people were all congregated out front hardly no masks and no distancing.
Tom
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masks are mandatory indoors in California, but you still see folks even in the bay area who don't wear them indoors. I'd guess 95% of them are white women in their 50's or 60's wearing shorts and polo shirts
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Woman at the office meeting with people (not me) who are all wearing masks but she's wearing it around her chin! WTF!
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I hate in person confrontation and it's a person I generally like
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I hate in person confrontation and it's a person I generally like
Carry around a big piece of plexiglass and put it between you and her and then have a pleasant conversation with her and see if that gets your point across without confrontation.
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I hate in person confrontation and it's a person I generally like
Carry around a big piece of plexiglass and put it between you and her and then have a pleasant conversation with her and see if that gets your point across without confrontation.
I mean she was meeting with two other people fully masked and I was fully masked and I kinda gave her a dirty look when i walked by. :dunno:
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I kinda gave her a dirty look when i walked by. :dunno:
:surprised:
For my idea, if you want to cover a few big Pit issues in one lol irl episode to post about, use one of these as the plexiglass.
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masks are mandatory indoors in California, but you still see folks even in the bay area who don't wear them indoors. I'd guess 95% of them are white women in their 50's or 60's wearing shorts and polo shirts
Apparently not. A buddy of mine went to 24 hr fitness in Carlsbad today and he said like 3 of 100 ppl were wearing masks (:horrorsurprise:)
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Daughter works at ECU Med School.
Anecdotal non scientific experiment with Oximeter and masks. No discernible difference between non mask and multiple styles of masks in O2 level among multiple people. Even after (intentionally) walking up and down long halls and stairs in medical facilities (they used a closed level for the non masked segment). Again, purely anecdotal and using the non optimal measuring methodology, but I found it relevant with all the "I can't war a mask" BS out there.
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masks are mandatory indoors in California, but you still see folks even in the bay area who don't wear them indoors. I'd guess 95% of them are white women in their 50's or 60's wearing shorts and polo shirts
Apparently not. A buddy of mine went to 24 hr fitness in Carlsbad today and he said like 3 of 100 ppl were wearing masks (:horrorsurprise:)
Yeah not surprised a bunch of trumpers wouldn't follow the rules
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Daughter works at ECU Med School.
Anecdotal non scientific experiment with Oximeter and masks. No discernible difference between non mask and multiple styles of masks in O2 level among multiple people. Even after (intentionally) walking up and down long halls and stairs in medical facilities (they used a closed level for the non masked segment). Again, purely anecdotal and using the non optimal measuring methodology, but I found it relevant with all the "I can't war a mask" BS out there.
Seems obvious, but good to hear
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masks are mandatory indoors in California, but you still see folks even in the bay area who don't wear them indoors. I'd guess 95% of them are white women in their 50's or 60's wearing shorts and polo shirts
Apparently not. A buddy of mine went to 24 hr fitness in Carlsbad today and he said like 3 of 100 ppl were wearing masks (:horrorsurprise:)
BRO
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I glare at people not wearing in waiting rooms and such. Going down grocery store aisles the wrong way etc.
Backwards rubes need to be called out and bullied AF
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lol
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I've ended up doing a bit more outdoor wearing this week because there's a higher chance I'll end up going inside a place while out and about and I don't like carrying it around and taking it on and off.
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I rip that baby off and shove it i to the pocket at first chance.
Looks like kcmo maybe announcing mandatory masking. :crossfingers:
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I wear my mask around my wrist when I don't use it.
For outdoor use, my theory is that the richer the community, the more likely you'll see masks outside. (at least in the Bay)
The most masks I've seen outside are on a trail in Oakland with a bunch of Latino families out for a walk. The least masks outside are a rich white suburb. Middle of the road is a more middle-class Asian/white suburb. Mission in SF everyone is wearing masks too.
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other than grocery store parking lots and jobsites, i don't know that i've ever seen someone wearing a mask outside.
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I have a possibly unfounded fear of the mask being counterproductive the more I have the mask exposed to other things and then putting it on my face, as well as actually putting it on and off my face with my hands that touch who knows what while I'm out and about. I've got enough masks that I can pretty much keep them exclusively cycling between my washer, dryer and face.
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Perhaps it'll change tomorrow with the new mandate, but %'s of people here wearing masks still seem identical inside and out.
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Maybe it has just been the focus back onto 'rona in the last few days/week, or maybe just the places I've been going, but % mask wearing that I have noticed has gone up.
Highest % was at Hobby Lobby, at least 75% if not more (and that was at the both of the two locations I went to).
Lukas Liquor was also like 75% (highest for any liquor store I've been in, I usually go to smaller but was hunting something specific)
Lowest is Homer's that I got to somewhat frequently, the baristas all wear, but maybe 10% of people even if they are just picking up an order like I do wear. But then again the rest are mostly outside and you are after all you need to use your mouth, so can't overly blame.
Price Chopper still steady at 50%.
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other than grocery store parking lots and jobsites, i don't know that i've ever seen someone wearing a mask outside.
here they're mandatory if you're within 30 feet of someone outside. It's always supposed to be on hand
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sf things thread.
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sf things thread.
fresno is so close yet a world apart
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I have a possibly unfounded fear of the mask being counterproductive the more I have the mask exposed to other things and then putting it on my face, as well as actually putting it on and off my face with my hands that touch who knows what while I'm out and about. I've got enough masks that I can pretty much keep them exclusively cycling between my washer, dryer and face.
I've mitigated this in my mind by not really touching the middle of the mask and cleaning my hands if I feel like I have grody hands before (un)masking, then storing the mask in a back pocket that doesn't get any covid possible interaction
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I have a possibly unfounded fear of the mask being counterproductive the more I have the mask exposed to other things and then putting it on my face, as well as actually putting it on and off my face with my hands that touch who knows what while I'm out and about. I've got enough masks that I can pretty much keep them exclusively cycling between my washer, dryer and face.
I've mitigated this in my mind by not really touching the middle of the mask and cleaning my hands if I feel like I have grody hands before (un)masking, then storing the mask in a back pocket that doesn't get any covid possible interaction
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from my local nextdoor/FB conversations I would guess 90% of people are convinced that masking will prevent the spread entirely and an uncovered nose will lead to your death.
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stateline and ~74th Hy-Vee yesterday, I'd say about 80-90 percent in masks.
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stateline and ~74th Hy-Vee yesterday, I'd say about 80-90 percent in masks.
The homeless looking man with a tie-dye mask is me :adios:
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The farmers market was better today. 30-33% with masks.
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Kcmo and wyco are 100% mask starting Monday :emawkid:
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Kcmo and wyco are 100% mask starting Monday :emawkid:
It'll be interesting to see how it's enforced because you know a lot of folks aren't going to comply.
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Kcmo and wyco are 100% mask starting Monday :emawkid:
It'll be interesting to see how it's enforced because you know a lot of folks aren't going to comply.
Of course because people are POS but whatcha gonna do? Better than not doing it.
Interestingly we did remove all occupancy limits except in bars at the same time.
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Afternoon trip to Kroger today, 100% masks that I saw in my 30 minutes there. Middle class area of town. Was quite impressed.
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Fresh Market 100%
Jefferson County (Most of BHAM) mask order starts tomorrow
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Saturday farmers market seeing an increase in masks. Maybe up to 70% which is about all I'd hope for in an outdoor venue
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pretty nice evidence that people respond quickly to the return of covid salience in the news.
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Goodcents on SMPKWY we did carry out. No one in the store. 3 employees no masks. No soda fountain, 3- 4 tables left. I remember cramming a whole little league team in there for a post game sandwich over a decade ago.
Tom
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So I heard on the radio this morning that wyco's mask order also says that the bqqkie dipshits who "can't" wear a mask are required to wear a face shield instead :lol:
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:lol:
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So I heard on the radio this morning that wyco's mask order also says that the bqqkie dipshits who "can't" wear a mask are required to wear a face shield instead :lol:
Excellent way to call these moron's bluff.
Was just at starbucks by my office. 100% masks except one table who were eating and they had masks around neck so I assume when they are done eating they would put back.
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It's interesting that KCMO removed occupancy restrictions early (was set to expire/renew July 5th) in favor of masking everybody up in public places. Hoping this helps keep us low and drives it even lower.
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hopefully that includes the airport
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hopefully that includes the airport
Everywhere 6 feet of distance can't be maintained which seems like kind of a big caveat.
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papa kenos in crossroads. Masks on everyone walking around. Zero masks on people sitting eating.
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papa kenos in crossroads. Masks on everyone walking around. Zero masks on people sitting eating.
:dubious:
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I think that is the 6' rule. If you are closer than 6' mask up.
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I think that is the 6' rule. If you are closer than 6' mask up.
so like you want people to mask up between bites of food? The KCMO ordiance specifically says no masks if sitting down to eat/drink. Table of parties should still be apart though.
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I think that is the 6' rule. If you are closer than 6' mask up.
so like you want people to mask up between bites of food? The KCMO ordiance specifically says no masks if sitting down to eat/drink. Table of parties should still be apart though.
no that's crazy. I was just explaining what I thought why they weren't
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I think that is the 6' rule. If you are closer than 6' mask up.
so like you want people to mask up between bites of food? The KCMO ordiance specifically says no masks if sitting down to eat/drink. Table of parties should still be apart though.
no that's crazy. I was just explaining what I thought why they weren't
sorry, I slowed down my brain during a dax talk and didn't turn it back on to full speed.
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I think that is the 6' rule. If you are closer than 6' mask up.
so like you want people to mask up between bites of food? The KCMO ordiance specifically says no masks if sitting down to eat/drink. Table of parties should still be apart though.
If you’re inside, unmasked, and having a meal, There is going to be a lot of Covid spread if it’s present. Good luck with that.
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I think that is the 6' rule. If you are closer than 6' mask up.
so like you want people to mask up between bites of food? The KCMO ordiance specifically says no masks if sitting down to eat/drink. Table of parties should still be apart though.
If you’re inside, unmasked, and having a meal, There is going to be a lot of Covid spread if it’s present. Good luck with that.
Ya. I'm pretty uneasy about indoor dining. Been enjoying some patio dining though. Upwind when I can.
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I think that is the 6' rule. If you are closer than 6' mask up.
so like you want people to mask up between bites of food? The KCMO ordiance specifically says no masks if sitting down to eat/drink. Table of parties should still be apart though.
If you’re inside, unmasked, and having a meal, There is going to be a lot of Covid spread if it’s present. Good luck with that.
Ya. I'm pretty uneasy about indoor dining. Been enjoying some patio dining though. Upwind when I can.
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Totally agree
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I think that is the 6' rule. If you are closer than 6' mask up.
so like you want people to mask up between bites of food? The KCMO ordiance specifically says no masks if sitting down to eat/drink. Table of parties should still be apart though.
If you’re inside, unmasked, and having a meal, There is going to be a lot of Covid spread if it’s present. Good luck with that.
I'm only eating outside for who knows how long. That said I'm not sure it's like 100% chance just because one person has it in a restaurant that there is going to be a "lot of spread"
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I ate in an IHOP Saturday morning while waiting on my car and it was very uncomfortable. Like, if it's so dangerous in here that we're wearing masks every moment we're not shoving CFS and pancakes down our throats, how can it be OK to unmask even for that? I'm skip'n indoor eat'n until I'm chip'd.
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I think that is the 6' rule. If you are closer than 6' mask up.
so like you want people to mask up between bites of food? The KCMO ordiance specifically says no masks if sitting down to eat/drink. Table of parties should still be apart though.
If you’re inside, unmasked, and having a meal, There is going to be a lot of Covid spread if it’s present. Good luck with that.
I'm only eating outside for who knows how long. That said I'm not sure it's like 100% chance just because one person has it in a restaurant that there is going to be a "lot of spread"
Sure. Length of exposure, contagiousness at the time, airflow pattern all play into it.
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Mask-up, Kansas!
https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/1277710440483692545
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Congrats to both the states of Kansas and Missouri for being smart
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This is probably the best course of action until a vaccine becomes available.
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Congrats to both the states of Kansas and Missouri for being smart
Unfortanately all of MO hasn't taken this step yet and no way they will.
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The parts of MO where I will go do
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https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1277628265851686912?s=19
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How positively Kansas City, Missouri
Wow . . . SMDH
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Did it say where the racist poc who sent that was from?
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Did it say where the racist poc who sent that was from?
Kansas City metro then?
Why would a none Kansas City Metro person be asking the mayor KC MO a question like that?
I'll concede, could easily come from one of the racially locked down zip codes in the white flight KC Metro burbs.
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Did it say where the racist poc who sent that was from?
Kansas City metro then?
Why would a none Kansas City Metro person be asking the mayor KC MO a question like that?
I'll concede, could easily come from one of the racially locked down zip codes in the white flight KC Metro burbs.
Wacky tweeted at sly james about some joco construction one time, but my guess is this racist neck lives in the city limits
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Did it say where the racist poc who sent that was from?
Kansas City metro then?
Why would a none Kansas City Metro person be asking the mayor KC MO a question like that?
I'll concede, could easily come from one of the racially locked down zip codes in the white flight KC Metro burbs.
Wacky tweeted at sly james about some joco construction one time, but my guess is this racist neck lives in the city limits
Jigsaw puzzle metros are confusing.
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https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1277628265851686912?s=19
Mayor Q
Read half the post before realizing this wasn’t bqqkie related. Well, you know what I mean.
:lol:
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from my local nextdoor/FB conversations I would guess 90% of people are convinced that masking will prevent the spread entirely and an uncovered nose will lead to your death.
You live in a weird place and are surrounded by weirdos.
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I'm cool w/ KS masks in indoor public places mandate, btw. In reality, it's not really enforceable, but will surely result in more people wearing masks and reducing the spread. I'll never be fully comfortable with the use of force, but this is more of a false force and a nudging hand imo.
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TX made it so businesses can be fined $500 per infraction of unmasked people they allow in. I think that’s probably the best way to do it.
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I'm cool w/ KS masks in indoor public places mandate, btw. In reality, it's not really enforceable, but will surely result in more people wearing masks and reducing the spread. I'll never be fully comfortable with the use of force, but this is more of a false force and a nudging hand imo.
I've only heard/seen evidence of one person being forced to use a mask by law enforcement out here, and that was secondhand on Nextdoor, not any sort of verified media.
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So many health safety laws aren't enforced with a lot of rigor I'm not sure why everybody rushes to "how will we enforce it" right away or to dismiss the mask rules as not effective.
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So many health safety laws aren't enforced with a lot of rigor I'm not sure why everybody rushes to "how will we enforce it" right away or to dismiss the mask rules as not effective.
Yeah, making legal mandates of this type is really just a good nudge to the public saying “this is important. You need to do this.” I actually like it better that way. Yeah, they’ll fine businesses and stuff for allowing chicanery, but no one is going to be writing tickets for lack of mask wearing. At least I hope not.
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So many health safety laws aren't enforced with a lot of rigor I'm not sure why everybody rushes to "how will we enforce it" right away or to dismiss the mask rules as not effective.
all laws.
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i'm really curious if republicans can get their horses back in the barn on masks. they're starting to try and i imagine trump will half-assedly join in before long.
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i'm really curious if republicans can get their horses back in the barn on masks. they're starting to try and i imagine trump will half-assedly join in before long.
Definitely going to try. Should be entertaining to watch numb fucks like rand paul have to mask up like bqqk
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Two weeks ago 4 different airports were all at like 50%. Today, 100%. Didn't see a single person w/o one
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For those who've gotten masked cuts, what happens when the barber has to cut/shave on the sides around the ear where the mask loops are?
(https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_27/3393710/200630-nyc-hair-salon-se-1220p_49942cf78b06c772fea9274086a08a67.fit-2000w.jpg)
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/national-mandate-mask-wearing-could-work-better-lockdowns-new-report-n1232541
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My disgust at its core is at the overall messaging, carrying on from day 1 “masks don’t help.” There is logic to masks and if presented correctly, most people would abide, I think. That so many are wearing masks OUTSIDE makes me think many wear or don’t wear masks as a demonstration of politics rather than because of logically understanding the benefits in situations.
Maybe america is just too dumb regardless of how well information is communicated.
the mask messaging has been horrible from the start.
I don't think wearing masks outside is necessarily a demonstration of politics, I look at it as a low-effort way to let people around know I give a crap about them not getting sick, even if I think the risk of infection outside is pretty minimal.
That study in the article also hits on what we were talking about a week ago.
It also acknowledged that mask-wearing has become a political and cultural statement and that the reality of a national mask mandate is "uncertain."
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For those who've gotten masked cuts, what happens when the barber has to cut/shave on the sides around the ear where the mask loops are?
(https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_27/3393710/200630-nyc-hair-salon-se-1220p_49942cf78b06c772fea9274086a08a67.fit-2000w.jpg)
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/national-mandate-mask-wearing-could-work-better-lockdowns-new-report-n1232541
My barber just worked around it as I held out the bands.
But all you undercut guys could run into some issues.
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the national mask mandate is going to absolutely cuck and humiliate the magas. They won't be able to use the "well we didn't know and now the research is in so I will wear it" excuse because they have gone so hard in on absolutely moronic data about breathing cO2, the virus gets trapped in the mask and also the size of the virus and dry wall dust. Also, the mind control aspect.
I expect Trump will relent at some point and the magas will be out on their idiot limb
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/amid-surge-in-coronavirus-cases-and-mounting-criticism-gop-leaders-do-about-face-on-masks/ar-BB16aqdK?li=BBorjTa&ocid=iehp
It is going to be hilarious how hard the magas will pivot. It will actually be very emasculating
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If trump puts on a mask he will have literally admitted to being a huge idiot with lard in his head and enormous lard stomach
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If trump puts on a mask he will have literally admitted to being a huge idiot with lard in his head and enormous lard stomach
Why would he put a mask on in July when this thing disappeared in April?
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old, decrepit, morbidly obese and wracked with crippling with bones spurs, the president rises off of the waterproof couch to completely change course and dunk on anti mask magas. the savage dunking leaves the bqqk maga faction covered in glass and spray from his laden diaper.
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Jill puts some fantastic masks on Joe. I hope in those moments after the steroids, Ensure, various psycho-stimulants and vitamin shots kick in that Joe appreciates how well Jill takes care of him before it's time for his teleprompter speeches in front of his couch and then a nice nap.
Home Depot Mask Report 7/1 Evening: 65%
Lowes Home Improvement Mask Report 7/1 Evening: 60%
Mobile, Montgomery and Birmingham and all of Jefferson County (BHAM) under mandatory mask orders.
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For those who've gotten masked cuts, what happens when the barber has to cut/shave on the sides around the ear where the mask loops are?
(https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_27/3393710/200630-nyc-hair-salon-se-1220p_49942cf78b06c772fea9274086a08a67.fit-2000w.jpg)
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/national-mandate-mask-wearing-could-work-better-lockdowns-new-report-n1232541
My barber just worked around it as I held out the bands.
But all you undercut guys could run into some issues.
Doing my first haircut since this started tomorrow, we'll see how it goes w/ masks
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I keep forgetting to call and make an appointment, going on 20 weeks right now
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I want and can get a ‘cut but am skeptical it can be effective masked.
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Buzz cut is still growing. Might give it a little trim along the bottom. Might just let it go. I'm not comfortable with the barber chair just yet.
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Don't go. Trump has declared masks don't work and are actually bad for you.
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Guys, the mask thing is zero issues with getting your haircut. Can confirm. They move it away from the side of where they're 'cuttin.
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why does that haircut smock have a clear piece by that dude's junk?
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So you can look at Facebook
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thought maybe there was an "incident" that made those required.
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So you can look at Facebook
ahhhh
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:love:
https://twitter.com/kcstreetcar/status/1279073662822494208
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:love:
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Let’s see some pics of these fresh undercuts.
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Planting flowers and fresh herbs. Garden stores mask usage, 70%
Staff: 90%
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haircut went super easy, no probs
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haircut went super easy, no probs
Were you masked?
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I got a haircut today. no masks. Not a single one.
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I got a haircut today. no masks. Not a single one.
I was interested in how they operate around the ear with a mask. It has been mentioned before. I'm enjoying cutting my own hair.
And randos clearing the back.
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On the bright side, my masks just arrived in time to comply with the mandate.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200704/6bcb1274df6a085d061d834750bb806d.jpg)
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hopefully you got non-iron
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How is the mask mandate going over in "first world" Alabama?
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Now maybe the fox watchers will wear one?
https://www.foxnews.com/health/wearing-mask-cuts-own-risk-novel-coronavirus-65-percent-experts-say
"So the wearer of the mask, even the standard rectangular surgical masks ... will decrease the risk of infection by the person wearing the mask by about 65 percent."
:cheers:
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How is the mask mandate going over in "first world" Alabama?
8 of 10 largest cities now have mandatory mask orders.
I can't say for sure right now, haven't been out for a few days.
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How is the mask mandate going over in "first world" Alabama?
8 of 10 largest cities now have mandatory mask orders.
I can't say for sure right now, haven't been out for a few days.
You should leave the basement every once in a while bud.
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How is the mask mandate going over in "first world" Alabama?
8 of 10 largest cities now have mandatory mask orders.
I can't say for sure right now, haven't been out for a few days.
You should leave the basement every once in a while bud.
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How is the mask mandate going over in "first world" Alabama?
8 of 10 largest cities now have mandatory mask orders.
I can't say for sure right now, haven't been out for a few days.
You should leave the basement every once in a while bud.
(https://i.giphy.com/media/8ItUfY2pQCJoc/giphy.webp)
The internet is so hard sometimes :frown:
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Gif works perfectly fine for me Da Big Sociopath Stalker
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Works fine for me
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Works fine for me
He might want to get back there and give the ol' Barracuda a couple of good bops on the side, or maybe unplug it for 30 seconds and re-plug.
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Masking order in KCMO extended indefinately alongside emergency declaration.
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Has anyone been on the receiving end of mask rants? Finally had a dental appt and my dentist said he was called a sheeple at the liquor store for mask use :frown:
Like an anti-masker idiot to me? I wish. It would be fun to destroy a maga
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I'd just wink at them since they won't be able to see me smile/lol at them.
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I saw a mask rant in Lowes. Dude was telling some lady she shouldn't be out if she wasn't healthy and that's the only reason to wear a mask.
So two months ago.
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Pretty excited to wear my mask around in Indiana next week. I’m sure I’ll get called a libtard or a man of taste and distinction at least once.
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a hair cut feels so dang incredible. just sort of held the mask strap off to the side for a sec while edging around the ear.
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Pretty excited to wear my mask around in Indiana next week. I’m sure I’ll get called a libtard or a man of taste and distinction at least once.
I wore mine in Nebraska and was pleastantly surprised they were all right there with me!
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Mask usage was around 70% at the Dillons the other night. Way up from the week before.
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100% from what I've seen since the mask orders. Kansans don't like getting in trouble
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100% from what I've seen since the mask orders. Kansans don't like getting in trouble
For all the "how we going to enforce this" handwringing, exactly. Just pass it as a new requirement and most will do it. Be wishywashy about it (Trump) and guess what, people make it my team vs. your team.
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Took my daughter to the doctor today. You wait in your car, they call you in, and you walk straight back to the exam room. WAY better than sitting in the waiting room.
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I hope Pro Mask Dax can join us all in strongly opposing all these R leaders who are forbidding mandatory mask orders like this dork on Georgia. A known solution to get us all out of this being politicized. JFC.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/507600-georgia-governor-overrides-all-local-mask-orders-in-the-state
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Sounds good, Phil.
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Sounds good, Phil.
:cheers:
I just know how much you wanted to blame D govenors for not being ready so I expect you to speak just as loud about these dumb Rs who aren't allowing cities to do the literal easiest thing ever to get us out of this.
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Sounds good, Phil.
:cheers:
I just know how much you wanted to blame D govenors for not being ready so I expect you to speak just as loud about these dumb Rs who aren't allowing cities to do the literal easiest thing ever to get us out of this.
While there's certainly something to say about R Gubs and masks, Phil.
There's also still plenty to say about the giant rock brained idiots who apparently are in charge of a lot things but apparently really can't run anything or make any decisions at the state and local level as well. From a copious amount of experience in dealing with them, rest assured they can decorate an office and book travel accommodations to a symposium or conference with the best of them, tho. Oh and extremely good at presentations, having meetings and setting up committees, working groups and task forces.
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That GA gov is literally emboldening the idiots to be even more dumb. maga though
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Sounds good, Phil.
:cheers:
I just know how much you wanted to blame D govenors for not being ready so I expect you to speak just as loud about these dumb Rs who aren't allowing cities to do the literal easiest thing ever to get us out of this.
There's also still plenty to say about the giant rock brained idiots who apparently are in charge of a lot things but apparently really can't run anything or make any decisions
I've never heard you speak so strongly against Trump and his administration. Glad to see you are seeing the light after 4 years of failure.
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I think dax simply loves pointing to the hypocrisy of the trump critics as the D admins have done dumb things all along. Team Phukemol here.
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Sounds good, Phil.
:cheers:
I just know how much you wanted to blame D govenors for not being ready so I expect you to speak just as loud about these dumb Rs who aren't allowing cities to do the literal easiest thing ever to get us out of this.
There's also still plenty to say about the giant rock brained idiots who apparently are in charge of a lot things but apparently really can't run anything or make any decisions
I've never heard you speak so strongly against Trump and his administration. Glad to see you are seeing the light after 4 years of failure.
From a foreign policy perspective nothing can top the 8 previous and the absolute messes it created for our country. Yet Bidenbots (like you) want more of it, and actually side with people who are literally financing (for example) Vlad Putin's position on the world stage, and who ensured an ascendant China which would ultimately become a country bent on Asian hegemony and world industrial domination.
So at least on that piece, Bidenbots and your party can EABOD.
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I was being starved of whataboutisms but now my thirst has been quenched.
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I was being starved of whataboutisms but now my thirst has been quenched.
I know you're an incredible dumbass, but yet again, your party is going to nominate a racist corrupt war monger who played a huge role in those policies.
It's just extremely sad that you tap out with "whataboutism" all the time, which is pathetic and sad.
Please don't tell anyone you were educated at K-State.
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Remember when dax pretended that he would vote for Biden over trump in 2016? Lmao
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Remember when dax pretended that he would vote for Biden over trump in 2016? Lmao
A Mount Vesuvius of tapouts this afternoon.
Sad
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Remember when dax pretended that he would vote for Biden over trump in 2016? Lmao
yes
i believe he stated that he was far more preferable than Trump
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Remember when dax pretended that he would vote for Biden over trump in 2016? Lmao
yes
i believe he stated that he was far more preferable than Trump
Then record started to get analyzed.
What's even more :lol: is that many on here are going to pull the ol "I held my nose" or the write in cop out in November. You only care about the (D), just admit it.
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i actually regularly vote for Pub canditates
Trump is not one of them
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i actually regularly vote for Pub canditates
Trump is not one of them
Um hmm
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I won't have to hold my nose to vote for Biden. I think he'll be just fine as president.
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Biden has incred moderate energy. He’s too old to govern and can’t be trusted to make any decisions on his own but he won’t want or try to. Plus he’s a genuinely high quality human being.
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Biden has incred moderate energy. He’s too old to govern and can’t be trusted to make any decisions on his own but he won’t want or try to. Plus he’s a genuinely high quality human being.
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YES to all of that!
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Yeah, the guy who used to stand up say he's not sending his kids to "racial jungles" and pushed hard so black people could be disproportionately sent to prison, loaded up his kid on Air Force Two and went on a world wide family financial shakedown tour while never meeting a war he didn't want.
Is just a great guy . . . :jerk: :jerk: :jerk:
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Do you think that Trump is a better candidate at this point?
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Biden has incred moderate energy. He’s too old to govern and can’t be trusted to make any decisions on his own but he won’t want or try to. Plus he’s a genuinely high quality human being.
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That’s what I thought about buttigieg and then I read a vox article on his policies a couple months ago and I was wrong. So someone list Biden’s plans so we can make a judgement, my guess is he isn’t moderate.
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LETS SEE HIS POLICIES!
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How any masks do you bros own? Are there family masks you share? do you have a custom fabric one or do you go with the papery hospital ones?
I would say there 5-8 fabric masks here. Friend of fam made some very cool, bedazzled ones for the young stones but those get misplaced, left in cars, rooms, drawers etc. so I grab a few handfuls of the disposable ones from work so we can freely hit up Aldis for some gluten free chips and soymilk whenever we want. I would say at any given time there are 4-5 in my car and prob another 4-5 floating around the house. 3 in the office.
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Buff, mask with replaceable filters, and a box of surgery style for backup.
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Already noted, but I use Brooks Bros. masks, personally.
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Already noted, but I use Brooks Bros. masks, personally.
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/de/c3/89/dec389252fa9f9a9d2d713bddb99470c.jpg)
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Already noted, but I use Brooks Bros. masks, personally.
They are cheap and good
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I have a rotation of four. I never wash them :ohno:
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I'm worried that returning to the office I'll have to buy new ones. Saw something about double filtered.
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Ozarks. 33% (me) in mask at the liquor store. The two workers coughing and snotting on their hands prior to nagging my ultra premium spirits. I puked in my mouth.
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Ozarks. 33% (me) in mask at the liquor store. The two workers coughing and snotting on their hands prior to nagging my ultra premium spirits. I puked in my mouth.
Tell the cousin Langmore’s I loved the new season.
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I have 11, but also have a bunch of disposable ones on the way.
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I have 1
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Dozen bandanas (never used), panic buy target masks (worn twice), company comp mask, Charlie hustle three pack (worn all the time), sun gsitors (worn at gym every time last 3 weeks)
Super jealous of all the cool new masks but I'm not spending any more cash on this
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Handful of what I think are technically "procedural" masks. I don't actually go out more than 1-2 times a week max, so I only really use/need one.
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Dozen bandanas (never used), panic buy target masks (worn twice), company comp mask, Charlie hustle three pack (worn all the time), sun gsitors (worn at gym every time last 3 weeks)
Super jealous of all the cool new masks but I'm not spending any more cash on this
Three of my four are a Charlie Hustle three pack! :billdance:
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Indiana report -
People working inside at restaurants: 100%
Everyone else: 0%
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Rotation of disposable, hustle, gaiter
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Oregon's interesting because they have a lib governor that made indoor masks mandatory and there are also a shitload of dudes in grunt style shirts and tactical sunglasses that wuss out and wear them anyway.
Also a lot of angry looking dads who look like they hate their family waiting outside a store because they refuse to wear a mask and get mushed at the door
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Indiana report -
People working inside at restaurants: 100%
Everyone else: 0%
Update from gas station: 2 masks, me and an older lady. 6 non-masked including 2 employees. Lots of MAGA and KAG march for sale.
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Indiana report -
People working inside at restaurants: 100%
Everyone else: 0%
Update from gas station: 2 masks, me and an older lady. 6 non-masked including 2 employees. Lots of MAGA and KAG march for sale.
:shakesfist:
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Had a short drive on I-65 South this weekend. N-95’s at the ready for exiting the car.
Surrounded by TN, MO, IL cars with bikes, campers and tailgate racks headed South from this:
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Got takeout from a cajun/poke bowl place. Servers had them but none of the diners, place seemed really full too :frown:
Why do people expect diners to be wearing masks
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At a doctor's office. They make you wear their masks. An old lady is complaining because she wants to wear her own mask but also because she doesn't think masks are natural
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At a doctor's office. They make you wear their masks. An old lady is complaining because she wants to wear her own mask but also because she doesn't think masks are natural
She fucks
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I bought smoked almonds at the farmers market today. More people were wearing masks.
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Appears KCMO is extending masks till end of the year and adding in more situations where they are required.
Also maybe limiting bars and restaurants capacity further.
Let's hope the rest of the metro joins them.
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LMAO @ the end
https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1292984224518209537
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:lol:
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LMAO @ the end
https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1292984224518209537
At 0:36 right?
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LMAO @ the end
https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1292984224518209537
At 0:36 right?
yeah
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saw this on FB from a rural KS church:
These talented ladies are amazing! Our Pollyanna quilting ladies have been hard at work sewing masks for local schools...410 masks to be exact. The children who will be wearing these masks and our schools were prayed over today before deliveries were made.
and then there was a photo of 7 maskless ladies who all looked to be in their 60's or 70's posing shoulder-to-shoulder indoors with the masks on the table in front of them. smdh people
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saw this on FB from a rural KS church:
These talented ladies are amazing! Our Pollyanna quilting ladies have been hard at work sewing masks for local schools...410 masks to be exact. The children who will be wearing these masks and our schools were prayed over today before deliveries were made.
and then there was a photo of 7 maskless ladies who all looked to be in their 60's or 70's posing shoulder-to-shoulder indoors with the masks on the table in front of them. smdh people
Faith over Fear michigancat.
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We need some sort of prediction poll on when masking will be an LOL thing of the past.
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LOL
https://twitter.com/devdandrea/status/1299465328313892864
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99.5% from my personal observations here in first world Alabama.
100% in my stops at pet store, booze drinks store and grocery store last night.
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LOL
https://twitter.com/devdandrea/status/1299465328313892864
Took me a while, but very well done
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LOL
https://twitter.com/devdandrea/status/1299465328313892864
Took me a while, but very well done
Yes 2020 has killed my humor, this took me way too long.
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Went to happy hour yesterday and I was really confused that people weren't wearing masks inside, because we have a mask mandate. Then I realized it doesn't apply to restaurants/bars when you're eating/drinking. First time in a bar or restaurant in five months. I was downtown later that night and they had closed down main street and were serving people outside which I was very happy about.
On another note, I returned to the office last week and I work three days a week in-office. Most people are there one day a week, but I'm the kiss ass described in the jobs thread.
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Nebraska city Sapp Bros like 90% masks. Nice job fellow travelers!
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Nebraska city Sapp Bros like 90% masks. Nice job fellow travelers!
That place is nuts. You can buy like creepy dolls and go carts and swords and stuff there.
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Nebraska city Sapp Bros like 90% masks. Nice job fellow travelers!
That place is nuts. You can buy like creepy dolls and go carts and swords and stuff there.
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They had bidets!
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Seaside, OR: when it’s below like 60% or so it’s too gross to even keep track of what the actual % is.
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Went into this very North Boston'y, Charlestown if you will, deli in Des Moines. There were 8 Italian gentlemen and ladies working in there and another four Italian dudes just hanging out, eating sandos and chatting with the employees. The only mask in the entire place was on my black face. I actually got super uncomfortable because I thought it was going to be one of these, no masks places. When they took my order the old guy made a point of cartoonishly turning his head and putting his ear right next to my mouth before I even had a chance to talk. While I waited for my sandwich another customer came in with a mask, another black dude. So whatever percentage is 2/14, like 16%
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:Yuck:
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The sandwich was over priced and mediocre but this place is supposed to be legit, I think I ordered the wrong thing.
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Don’t you assume that a business that doesn’t have its indoor people wearing masks is COVID-ridden?
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Bar K yesterday. Great weather, cats fans out strutting their mutts and crushing hard seltzs. Outside, masks were very rare but its pretty wide open and people were not huddling up closely. I'd say it was pretty safe as far as safe can go these days.
Inside masks were 100%, lots of people were wearing them even when seated.
Early morning kids soccer games, masks very rare out at heritage but its very wide open and our game was only one and right next to parking lot so none of the sidewalk interactions.
Scheels was almost 100% masked. Lots of spectators masked full game even when social distanced and its pretty hot/sunny. Impressive discipline by the parents a good % of whom are definitely maga.
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Don’t you assume that a business that doesn’t have its indoor people wearing masks is COVID-ridden?
That, coupled with the positivity rates here, yeah you're right, won't go back until I'm chipped
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Chamberlain, SD. 0%
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Chamberlain, SD. 0%
Why aren't you wearing yours?
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Just crossed the street to avoid unmasked dude in sturgis 2020 souvenir t-shirt.
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Chamberlain, SD. 0%
Why aren't you wearing yours?
I just count others. Tbh there is probably no cases there and I'm the dirty foreigner so maybe I'm the only one who should be?
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Just crossed the street to avoid unmasked dude in sturgis 2020 souvenir t-shirt.
Maybe tomorrow.
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Chamberlain, SD. 0%
Why aren't you wearing yours?
I just count others. Tbh there is probably no cases there and I'm the dirty foreigner so maybe I'm the only one who should be?
SD has the second highest case rate. And they have like a 20%+ test positivity rate.
Not sure if that's localized to certain areas of the state or not
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Chamberlain, SD. 0%
Why aren't you wearing yours?
I just count others. Tbh there is probably no cases there and I'm the dirty foreigner so maybe I'm the only one who should be?
SD has the second highest case rate. And they have like a 20%+ test positivity rate.
Not sure if that's localized to certain areas of the state or not
Yeah I meant in the specific bar/city, I wasn't sure how many cases that community had.
Definitely not getting close to anybody in this state with their numbers.
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Followed an older couple into Nebraska Furniture Mart today. Their vanity plate said NRA4LFE and it was in a WWG1WGA frame. They blew past the guy at the front door who told them they needed a mask. Random people started yelling at them and when they realized the guy was calling security they turned around and headed toward the exit. The old woman was yelling about her rights being infringed as she walked out the door.
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A lot of people have been going down at work in the last couple weeks and I've heard several tie it to returning to the gym and the gyms having lax rules.
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Mt rushmore 80% on people's bodies, 60% wearing properly.
Pretty surprising given outside environment.
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Mt rushmore 80% on people's bodies, 60% wearing properly.
Pretty surprising given outside environment.
60% of the 80% or 60% of 100%?
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in fresno and the southern valley generally, i am not seeing any autumn relaxation in mask usage at all. a relaxation was very noticeable in late may/june and it just has not reoccurred. 100% masks in public buildings. see a few on people in outdoor public situs. it sticks out, but it's probably under 5%.
feels like covid etiquette here has settled into a stable new normal where people aren't freaked out or really even thinking about it much, it's just what you do.
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I'm heading to Mount Rushmore country on Thursday. Should I be worried?
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Don’t you assume that a business that doesn’t have its indoor people wearing masks is COVID-ridden?
That, coupled with the positivity rates here, yeah you're right, won't go back until I'm chipped
I've had mild symptoms the last two days, I went to the TestIowa website and now I qualify for testing. They've surveyed me every week since we have had state testing and tracking and I have not been eligible for testing until now. :frown: I test tomorrow morning, if I test positive I know the most likely place I was exposed. Damn Italian sandwich.
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I'm heading to Mount Rushmore country on Thursday. Should I be worried?
Nah it's pretty spacious. I didn't wear my mask on a lot of the presidential trail due to nobody around.
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Mt rushmore 80% on people's bodies, 60% wearing properly.
Pretty surprising given outside environment.
60% of the 80% or 60% of 100%?
60 out of 100 had it at least accessible, 80 of 100 had it actively on and on properly.
Lots of olds not wanting to die.
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Very little mask usage southern Illinois. Also, Trump/Pence signs everywhere.
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Don’t you assume that a business that doesn’t have its indoor people wearing masks is COVID-ridden?
That, coupled with the positivity rates here, yeah you're right, won't go back until I'm chipped
I've had mild symptoms the last two days, I went to the TestIowa website and now I qualify for testing. They've surveyed me every week since we have had state testing and tracking and I have not been eligible for testing until now. :frown: I test tomorrow morning, if I test positive I know the most likely place I was exposed. Damn Italian sandwich.
crap hope you're ok
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If you guys need a laugh about how dumb and idiotic people are when it comes to the mask thing. This video was shown on a podcast i watch and lol did they tear it up.
Also this is in St. George, Utah
Enjoy
https://www.abc4.com/news/top-stories/no-more-masks-hundreds-attend-anti-mask-mandate-rally-in-st-george/
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Tulsa mask wearing is like 10-15% from what I’ve seen so far.
Only place I’ve been is Embassy Suites masks are me, Mrs nicname, two employees, a couple in their 50s, a Dude who is outside smoking every half hour or so, and a security dude.
I’ve seen probably 20 people not wearing a mask in carousing their the hotel. Indoor pool also open, which I don’t believe is the case in KS.
Not counting the hotel desk employees, that’s 6/26 (23%).
Surprisingly low obesity rate in this hotel tbh.
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Get out of there.
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Get out of there.
I mean, we’re pretty comfortably socially distanced from everyone even when in the public areas of the hotel. Hotel has three elevators, which is nice.
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Don’t you assume that a business that doesn’t have its indoor people wearing masks is COVID-ridden?
That, coupled with the positivity rates here, yeah you're right, won't go back until I'm chipped
I've had mild symptoms the last two days, I went to the TestIowa website and now I qualify for testing. They've surveyed me every week since we have had state testing and tracking and I have not been eligible for testing until now. :frown: I test tomorrow morning, if I test positive I know the most likely place I was exposed. Damn Italian sandwich.
Negative
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Don’t you assume that a business that doesn’t have its indoor people wearing masks is COVID-ridden?
That, coupled with the positivity rates here, yeah you're right, won't go back until I'm chipped
I've had mild symptoms the last two days, I went to the TestIowa website and now I qualify for testing. They've surveyed me every week since we have had state testing and tracking and I have not been eligible for testing until now. :frown: I test tomorrow morning, if I test positive I know the most likely place I was exposed. Damn Italian sandwich.
Negative
Would have kicked it's ass MIR!
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Don’t you assume that a business that doesn’t have its indoor people wearing masks is COVID-ridden?
That, coupled with the positivity rates here, yeah you're right, won't go back until I'm chipped
I've had mild symptoms the last two days, I went to the TestIowa website and now I qualify for testing. They've surveyed me every week since we have had state testing and tracking and I have not been eligible for testing until now. :frown: I test tomorrow morning, if I test positive I know the most likely place I was exposed. Damn Italian sandwich.
Negative
Would have kicked it's ass MIR!
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Don’t you assume that a business that doesn’t have its indoor people wearing masks is COVID-ridden?
That, coupled with the positivity rates here, yeah you're right, won't go back until I'm chipped
I've had mild symptoms the last two days, I went to the TestIowa website and now I qualify for testing. They've surveyed me every week since we have had state testing and tracking and I have not been eligible for testing until now. :frown: I test tomorrow morning, if I test positive I know the most likely place I was exposed. Damn Italian sandwich.
Negative
Would have kicked it's ass MIR!
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For sure younger, less strokes, and I'm sure less obese than POTUS and he is going to beat it.
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Businesses in MHK are filled with content mask wearers engaging in commerce. Nice to get out of the rural areas where mask wearing is a sign of lacking faith in Dear Leader’s pronouncements about how trivial COVID is.
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Businesses in MHK are filled with content mask wearers engaging in commerce. Nice to get out of the rural areas where mask wearing is a sign of lacking faith in Dear Leader’s pronouncements about how trivial COVID is.
Tulsa, OK is the opposite. Getting out of here tomorrow morning. This is the first place I’ve been where I’ve felt generally uneasy about being out in public. These people generally just don’t seem to GAF about masks or distancing.
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Businesses in MHK are filled with content mask wearers engaging in commerce. Nice to get out of the rural areas where mask wearing is a sign of lacking faith in Dear Leader’s pronouncements about how trivial COVID is.
Tulsa, OK is the opposite. Getting out of here tomorrow morning. This is the first place I’ve been where I’ve felt generally uneasy about being out in public. These people generally just don’t seem to GAF about masks or distancing.
This is what I meant by "get out of there." It's not even the immediate circumstance of being near an unmasked that gives me the creeps, it's seeing a community of majority unmasked/undistanced and knowing those people have been that way 4 eva and are covid-ridden and gross in general.
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Businesses in MHK are filled with content mask wearers engaging in commerce. Nice to get out of the rural areas where mask wearing is a sign of lacking faith in Dear Leader’s pronouncements about how trivial COVID is.
Tulsa, OK is the opposite. Getting out of here tomorrow morning. This is the first place I’ve been where I’ve felt generally uneasy about being out in public. These people generally just don’t seem to GAF about masks or distancing.
This is what I meant by "get out of there." It's not even the immediate circumstance of being near an unmasked that gives me the creeps, it's seeing a community of majority unmasked/undistanced and knowing those people have been that way 4 eva and are covid-ridden and gross in general.
For sure.
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Pretty good mask compliance at the game yesterday on the east side around section 6 and 7. Was surprised honestly.
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Mt. Rushmore was 50/50 in the museum and required in dining area. A decent amount were wearing outside as well.
I feel like there has been an increase in older MAGA wearing masks since their guy got admitted with the Rona.
Definitely still handful that not only refuse to wear one but look mad that other people are wearing them.
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I think that the people who don't wear masks also probably don't wash their hands.
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Mt. Rushmore was 50/50 in the museum and required in dining area. A decent amount were wearing outside as well.
I feel like there has been an increase in older MAGA wearing masks since their guy got admitted with the Rona.
Definitely still handful that not only refuse to wear one but look mad that other people are wearing them.
I didn't even piss in that place. Way too many people to be inside anywhere.
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Mt. Rushmore was 50/50 in the museum and required in dining area. A decent amount were wearing outside as well.
I feel like there has been an increase in older MAGA wearing masks since their guy got admitted with the Rona.
Definitely still handful that not only refuse to wear one but look mad that other people are wearing them.
Mask wearers can be quite triggering to MAGA / MAQA types. Shows that you are buying into the “lamestream media” fearporn about the virus.
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Have to give the crowd at the Oklahoma Aquarium (Tulsa) a pretty big thumbs up. Over 95% masked up and people distanced very well.
Exception was one Kroger brand Tim McGraw wearing a Jesus-is-my-savior-Trump-is-my-President tshirt and his brood of about 4 mouth breathing kids and wife. No masks in the lot, tons of loud talking and crowding everyone else. They weren’t there very long tho, I think they might have been kicked out.
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Have to give the crowd at the Oklahoma Aquarium (Tulsa) a pretty big thumbs up. Over 95% masked up and people distanced very well.
Exception was one Kroger brand Tim McGraw wearing a Jesus-is-my-savior-Trump-is-my-President tshirt and his brood of about 4 mouth breathing kids and wife. No masks in the lot, tons of loud talking and crowding everyone else. They weren’t there very long tho, I think they might have been kicked out.
This is what amazes and infuriates me about so many people who claim to be my fellow Christians. In the middle of a health catastrophe, they refuse to do something as simple and easy as wearing a mask because it would signal that they don’t have enough faith in either God or Trump. It seems like taking a simple action that could keep your neighbor from feeling sick, missing work, getting stuck in a hospital or possibly dying would be in line with Jesus’ teaching about loving your neighbor. James Baldwin said that he couldn’t be a Christian because he saw very little evidence that Christians were in any way serious about loving others.... okay. End of rant. Just needed to get that off my chest.
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KC to Louisville with a couple stops along the way.
Concordia MO. 100% at Shell and TA.
St Charles MO. 99% at QT. One non masker giving that look of disgust to everyone.
Indiana Welcome Center. 100%.
Good to see everyone keeping each other safe.
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I think that the people who don't wear masks also probably don't wash their hands.
Washing your hands after you take a crap is just a sign of weakness. Real americans love to walk about with their own feces on their hands the way Andrew Jackson and Sam Elliot did
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I was at a BBQ restaurant in Aptos, CA where you had to order online and saw someone who had come to church wearing a mask but like blatantly not covering her nose. It was probably the worst I've seen in a while, but I also don't go inside places like ever.
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one humorous thing I have seen lately is older people realizing they don't have a mask on and then cover their mouth with their hand while they ask a customer service rep a question. Have seen it two different times now
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I think that the people who don't wear masks also probably don't wash their hands.
Washing your hands after you take a crap is just a sign of weakness. Real americans love to walk about with their own feces on their hands the way Andrew Jackson and Sam Elliot did
It's just liberals getting the sheeple to buy soap. How many Americans die from eating feces in any given year? It's probably less than the flu.
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I think that the people who don't wear masks also probably don't wash their hands.
Washing your hands after you take a crap is just a sign of weakness. Real americans love to walk about with their own feces on their hands the way Andrew Jackson and Sam Elliot did
It's just liberals getting the sheeple to buy soap. How many Americans die from eating feces in any given year? It's probably less than the flu.
Per the DEEPSTATE CDC, approx 3000 deaths per year and 120,000 hospitalizations
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It should be an individuals choice to wash their hands after taking a giant crap
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It is their choice and they don't wash their hands. You just don't get a visual indicator of who these people are until they get asked to wear a mask.
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My gym, a Genesis BTW, for you other Kansans, Nebraskans, and Iowans, 2%, at best, I left disgusted. I hadn't been in a long while and starting to feel better I wanted to do something to not feel fat.
I started in the cardio room as the only person in a mask, which is understandable. I was on the bike and kept mine on, I wasn't exerting myself aerobically, but I was tolerant for those who were. While a bit nervous, I kept on going, until some [redacted] decided to ride, right next to me, not two machines done, right the eff next to me. I rode for two more minutes but then left disgusted. I went to the weight room with the intent of lifting, but I went in there and there was only one other dude in a mask, incidentally possibly the most fit dude in there. There was no one else in a mask in the entire joint; me, fit dude, the woman working the kids gym and one of the four people working the front desk.
I don't think there is a good reason not to wear masks while lifting weights, it's an anaerobic activity, especially when it's 5:30 at the gym, people are all on top of each other. I even intentionally went to the branch that would have more old balls people to avoid this. I guess I just have to go to the gym either at 2 in the afternoon or 9 at night.
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My gym, a Genesis BTW, for you other Kansans, Nebraskans, and Iowans, 2%, at best, I left disgusted. I hadn't been in a long while and starting to feel better I wanted to do something to not feel fat.
I started in the cardio room as the only person in a mask, which is understandable. I was on the bike and kept mine on, I wasn't exerting myself aerobically, but I was tolerant for those who were. While a bit nervous, I kept on going, until some [redacted] decided to ride, right next to me, not two machines done, right the eff next to me. I rode for two more minutes but then left disgusted. I went to the weight room with the intent of lifting, but I went in there and there was only one other dude in a mask, incidentally possibly the most fit dude in there. There was no one else in a mask in the entire joint; me, fit dude, the woman working the kids gym and one of the four people working the front desk.
I don't think there is a good reason not to wear masks while lifting weights, it's an anaerobic activity, especially when it's 5:30 at the gym, people are all on top of each other. I even intentionally went to the branch that would have more old balls people to avoid this. I guess I just have to go to the gym either at 2 in the afternoon or 9 at night.
I had a similar experience although my gym wasn't very full. I was just turned off by the fact masks weren't mandated. Of course the loud guy grunting wasn't wearing a mask. I haven't cancelled yet, but I am going to. One of our hot spots in town just happened to be another gym.
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My gym, a Genesis BTW, for you other Kansans, Nebraskans, and Iowans, 2%, at best, I left disgusted. I hadn't been in a long while and starting to feel better I wanted to do something to not feel fat.
I started in the cardio room as the only person in a mask, which is understandable. I was on the bike and kept mine on, I wasn't exerting myself aerobically, but I was tolerant for those who were. While a bit nervous, I kept on going, until some [redacted] decided to ride, right next to me, not two machines done, right the eff next to me. I rode for two more minutes but then left disgusted. I went to the weight room with the intent of lifting, but I went in there and there was only one other dude in a mask, incidentally possibly the most fit dude in there. There was no one else in a mask in the entire joint; me, fit dude, the woman working the kids gym and one of the four people working the front desk.
I don't think there is a good reason not to wear masks while lifting weights, it's an anaerobic activity, especially when it's 5:30 at the gym, people are all on top of each other. I even intentionally went to the branch that would have more old balls people to avoid this. I guess I just have to go to the gym either at 2 in the afternoon or 9 at night.
I'm the only one in my class most of the time other than the coach. Sometimes one other person will wear one. We are spaced and transitions are coordinated to minimize interactions. Been that way since I went back in June. Still not entirely comfortable but I've gotten used to it.
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my new gym (which is crossfit but don't call it crossfit) has been doing outdoor classes (max 10 people) but just got approval for indoor/outdoor combo classes (5 in, 5 out). Outside masks are optional but indoor they'll be required. But the owner/coach let a few people inside to do squats today and there was not good mask wearing and it was not high intensity so I won't be going inside when the full classes are there.
Also was kinda funny that after class one of the guys who was inside not wearing a mask at all was mocking trump for taking off his mask. (granted trump has covid but still).
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Steady stream of barefacers going into the local Pizza Hut while I wait for contactless curbside.
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so pretty much everyone wears masks here anywhere i've been inside. But today I was at the grocery store and saw a middle aged white guy with a mask but not even close to covering his nose and as I stepped away from him I glanced at his hat and it was this
(https://i.imgur.com/ibtpaRg.png)
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:Yuck:
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Middle Tennessee: no masks. no pandemic.
Northern and Southern Georgia: see above
Clearwater Beach: Masks in restaurants and shops. Our hotel is no contact. Check-in was via text message. Local businesses told governor to pound sand. Open and following old guidelines.
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Weekend BHAM Mask Report: 98% - Home Depot, Lowes, Wal-Mart, Publix. Picked-up carry out twice, all staff 100% masked.
GYM: Mask usage mandatory and enforced with limited occupancy
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One of my wife's friends from KSU days who lives in Taiwan read about all the COVID trouble in Kansas and shipped three boxes of very nice Taiwanese masks to our house.
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I went into a gross ass diamond shamrock yesterday, they're all gross but I digress, in Cedar Rapids and the masks were 0-7.
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I went into a gross ass diamond shamrock yesterday, they're all gross but I digress, in Cedar Rapids and the masks were 0-7.
I'm going to stick out like a sore thumb when I return home for the holidays. Probably won't go into town much, though.
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You from Cedar Rapids?
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You from Cedar Rapids?
No, but small town KS masks up about the same as people in a gross ass diamond shamrock.
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My solution is to not go anywhere for the holidays except maybe palm springs
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There needs to be a discussion about why every diamond shamrock is filthy and gross, it didn't used to be that way.
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I mean I didn't go to Kansas for Christmas in regular times but now I have a great excuse
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Just saw a barefaced MAGA in camo coveralls brush by the Asian greeter who politely asked him to mask up at the MHK Walmart. Don’t shame me for going into the MHK Walmart.
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Just saw a barefaced MAGA in camo coveralls brush by the Asian greeter who politely asked him to mask up at the MHK Walmart. Don’t shame me for going into the MHK Walmart.
Being a Walmart greeter must be the most thankless job possible these days. I've only ever seen one confrontation over mask/no-mask anywhere and it was at a Walmart.
(also don't shame me for going into a Walmart, I assure you I've only gone in one time during the whole covid)
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No one gives a turkey if you go to Wal-Mart
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Yeah, going to Walmart is just fine. Anyone who shamed you for that is a dill hole.
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Just saw a barefaced MAGA in camo coveralls brush by the Asian greeter who politely asked him to mask up at the MHK Walmart. Don’t shame me for going into the MHK Walmart.
Being a Walmart greeter must be the most thankless job possible these days. I've only ever seen one confrontation over mask/no-mask anywhere and it was at a Walmart.
(also don't shame me for going into a Walmart, I assure you I've only gone in one time during the whole covid)
Would be a horrible job.
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Been nice to have half capacity at the race tracks of late. Masks on when walking around indoors. Masks off when seated outdoors.
As for Walmart shame, I don't like how they smell. Thus I avoid them. Weird. I know.
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Been nice to have half capacity at the race tracks of late. Masks on when walking around indoors. Masks off when seated outdoors.
As for Walmart shame, I don't like how they smell. Thus I avoid them. Weird. I know.
Walmart stores overwhelm me. So big with so many people going in all different directions. I almost always try to avoid them. However, they are the only place in MHK that has cherry / lime LaCroix so I go in there to stock up from time to time.
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Just saw a barefaced MAGA in camo coveralls brush by the Asian greeter who politely asked him to mask up at the MHK Walmart. Don’t shame me for going into the MHK Walmart.
Brave soul.. only reason I go to mhk wally world is if a vehicle needs a battery or tires.
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Just saw a barefaced MAGA in camo coveralls brush by the Asian greeter who politely asked him to mask up at the MHK Walmart. Don’t shame me for going into the MHK Walmart.
Brave soul.. only reason I go to mhk wally world is if a vehicle needs a battery or tires.
Unless you have a coupon, tires are almost always cheaper at a tire shop. I bought tires three years ago, checked out five different places, and only one of them was more expensive than Wal-Mart.
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It is weird how instantly recognizable that Walmart smell is. I guess that's why they do it though. Were they the first large scale retailer to use scent marketing I wonder?
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Alright. I'm not crazy regarding that scent. Hate it.
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Went to a new mechanic today and they weren't wearing masks. They also had Newsmax on TV and Newsmax magazines. I didn't realize Newsmax had a magazine.
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Just saw a barefaced MAGA in camo coveralls brush by the Asian greeter who politely asked him to mask up at the MHK Walmart. Don’t shame me for going into the MHK Walmart.
Brave soul.. only reason I go to mhk wally world is if a vehicle needs a battery or tires.
Unless you have a coupon, tires are almost always cheaper at a tire shop. I bought tires three years ago, checked out five different places, and only one of them was more expensive than Wal-Mart.
Discount Tire da GoAT. I was in and out on 2 new fronts in 45 minutes the other day
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It is weird how instantly recognizable that Walmart smell is. I guess that's why they do it though. Were they the first large scale retailer to use scent marketing I wonder?
Target is probably the most recognizable scent to me.
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Two local school districts are ditching their mask mandates. Going to "optional" masks. Probably won't make a huge difference in 4-5 weeks of school remaining but on the other hand why stop this late in the game?
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Two local school districts are ditching their mask mandates. Going to "optional" masks. Probably won't make a huge difference in 4-5 weeks of school remaining but on the other hand why stop this late in the game?
Just to make it harder to bring them back
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It is weird how instantly recognizable that Walmart smell is. I guess that's why they do it though. Were they the first large scale retailer to use scent marketing I wonder?
Target is probably the most recognizable scent to me.
I associate the smell of popcorn with Target (and movie theaters)
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It is weird how instantly recognizable that Walmart smell is. I guess that's why they do it though. Were they the first large scale retailer to use scent marketing I wonder?
Target is probably the most recognizable scent to me.
I associate the smell of popcorn with Target (and movie theaters)
When I worked in hotels we would get a new scent cartridge every month to change out for the lobby. They were overpowering when you opened the package.
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costco kicks ass on tire prices (but forget getting them to rotate the fuckers unless you've got a rough ridin' afternoon to kill).
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It is weird how instantly recognizable that Walmart smell is. I guess that's why they do it though. Were they the first large scale retailer to use scent marketing I wonder?
Target is probably the most recognizable scent to me.
I associate the smell of popcorn with Target (and movie theaters)
YES!
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Think people will continue to wear masks in doctor waiting rooms now?
Doesn't seem like a bad idea!
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What is this communist China!?
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The Walmart smell (tm) originates from the bakery. Unless you are talking about the sporting goods area smell, which originates from the tire center
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Think people will continue to wear masks in doctor waiting rooms now?
Doesn't seem like a bad idea!
Center for Medicare Services is requiring physician offices and hospitals that work with them to continue masks. You will probably continue to wear masks in medical settings for a while.
The Walmart smell (tm) originates from the bakery. Unless you are talking about the sporting goods area smell, which originates from the tire center
What is it that makes hardware stores smell so good? I was in Ace the other day and it smelled so good.
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Sunday was the first time I saw someone try to enter a Bay Area store without a mask. It was at the grocery store and it was a young dude who looked like he was on drugs and forgot and he just took a free one when he was told he needed a mask and that was that.
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I was in the KC area last weekend, and the lack of masks in stores was pretty unsettling at first. I’m vaxed and all, so Trim 3:16 and whatnot, but it felt weird.
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I was in the KC area last weekend, and the lack of masks in stores was pretty unsettling at first. I’m vaxed and all, so Trim 3:16 and whatnot, but it felt weird.
Soon you will get to the sweet spot of knowing you can fight with the maskless and not get sick from them because you’re chip’d.
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I was in the KC area last weekend, and the lack of masks in stores was pretty unsettling at first. I’m vaxed and all, so Trim 3:16 and whatnot, but it felt weird.
Depends where you go in the city. In the 'burbs its been as close to 100% as you can get until the last week or 2 when the mandate expired in Johnson County.
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I was in the KC area last weekend, and the lack of masks in stores was pretty unsettling at first. I’m vaxed and all, so Trim 3:16 and whatnot, but it felt weird.
at this point, i feel a little silly wearing a mask. seems pretend.
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I was in the KC area last weekend, and the lack of masks in stores was pretty unsettling at first. I’m vaxed and all, so Trim 3:16 and whatnot, but it felt weird.
at this point, i feel a little silly wearing a mask. seems pretend.
Pretty much same here, but I hadn’t been into a store without a mask in more than a year before Friday.
@tbt I was in Southern JoCo
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I’ll throw on a cloth mask 90% of the time I go indoors and immediately take it off when I’m outside. Only exception is I’ll wear a KN-95 when I’m going to interact with strangers inside for a while like meetings (rare) or Dr. appointments.
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i was in mcpherson the other week and it was super random. signs on everything saying masks required but less than 50% of employees and customers wearing them. but man oh man wait until to you try to go to a restaurant there. the goods ones (there are like 2 or maybe 3) were still doing take out only. like wth you guys.
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I was in the KC area last weekend, and the lack of masks in stores was pretty unsettling at first. I’m vaxed and all, so Trim 3:16 and whatnot, but it felt weird.
at this point, i feel a little silly wearing a mask. seems pretend.
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Can employers require masks for employees or is that not allowed?
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Can employers require masks for employees or is that not allowed?
If you're not union or contractual employee(executive), you work at the pleasure of the employer. So they do get their way or it's out the door for you.
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Can employers require masks for employees or is that not allowed?
If you're not union or contractual employee(executive), you work at the pleasure of the employer. So they do get their way or it's out the door for you.
Well then if the owner made that sign they should require employees to wear masks and if a staff member made it they should have lied and said masks were required for staff
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Can employers require masks for employees or is that not allowed?
If you're not union or contractual employee(executive), you work at the pleasure of the employer. So they do get their way or it's out the door for you.
Well then if the owner made that sign they should require employees to wear masks and if a staff member made it they should have lied and said masks were required for staff
That is an issue with large employee bases. Sometimes rules are made by bullshit leaders that overstep their authority.
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I was in the KC area last weekend, and the lack of masks in stores was pretty unsettling at first. I’m vaxed and all, so Trim 3:16 and whatnot, but it felt weird.
at this point, i feel a little silly wearing a mask. seems pretend.
Give’em hell dlew
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Yeah I screamed at a Subway employee last week while he was making my footlong. SHOW YOURSELF, COWARD.
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I was in the KC area last weekend, and the lack of masks in stores was pretty unsettling at first. I’m vaxed and all, so Trim 3:16 and whatnot, but it felt weird.
at this point, i feel a little silly wearing a mask. seems pretend.
Give’em hell dlew
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my body, my choice!
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I was in the KC area last weekend, and the lack of masks in stores was pretty unsettling at first. I’m vaxed and all, so Trim 3:16 and whatnot, but it felt weird.
at this point, i feel a little silly wearing a mask. seems pretend.
Why? We know the vaccinated can still spread the virus. There are people out there still who can't get the vaccine as much as they want to. It's just a couple of more months while inside around strangers, you can't possibly be in that position a whole lot.
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Who can't get the vaccine, "as much as they want to".
Name places.
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Who can't get the vaccine, "as much as they want to".
Name places.
I got mine ASAP after they made it available to my age group and I just got my second dose last week. I know people who just got their first the past couple weeks so I think that means they won't get their second for 2-3 weeks.
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Who can't get the vaccine, "as much as they want to".
Name places.
I got mine ASAP after they made it available to my age group and I just got my second dose last week. I know people who just got their first the past couple weeks so I think that means they won't get their second for 2-3 weeks.
In the vast majority of places that's just a matter of personal choice.
They're literally shutting down walk in vaccination centers all across the country because of low use. In many Southern states health officials are begging people, particularly Hispanics and African Americans to get vaccinated.
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Who can't get the vaccine, "as much as they want to".
Name places.
I got mine ASAP after they made it available to my age group and I just got my second dose last week. I know people who just got their first the past couple weeks so I think that means they won't get their second for 2-3 weeks.
In the vast majority of places that's just a matter of personnel choice.
They're literally shutting down walk in vaccination centers all across the country because of low use. In many Southern states health officials are begging people, particularly Hispanics and African Americans to get vaccinated.
I know one person who wasn't able to schedule their first shot until this week or last at the earliest, but then they were able to walk into a pharmacy a couple weeks ago and get one. This is the main reason I wouldn't mind seeing mask mandates stick for 2-4 more weeks, so that all adults who want to be vaccinated will have had both shots in their arms for two weeks.
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Who can't get the vaccine, "as much as they want to".
Name places.
Children, people with allergy issues, potentially women trying to get pregnant, potentially people with suppressed immune systems
https://yalehealth.yale.edu/yale-covid-19-vaccine-program/who-should-and-shouldnt-get-covid-19-vaccine#
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And you think all these people will be able to get vaccinated in a couple months or that COVID will be gone by then?
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And you think all these people will be able to get vaccinated in a couple months or that COVID will be gone by then?
No idea. Maybe. What does it matter? If two years ago someone told a regular person, you singularly have the chance to spare one single person from acquiring a life threatening disease by simply wearing a mask to a grocery store I would have bet 85% of the people would say give me that mask.
Now that we know this is a plausible scenario we have like 60% at best who would mask up here and not only is this now acceptable but we're allowing for excuses for disregarding what should be basic human decency. Why do we need any other reason to wear a mask to The Gap if vaccinated other than courtesy and consideration of others?
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I was in the KC area last weekend, and the lack of masks in stores was pretty unsettling at first. I’m vaxed and all, so Trim 3:16 and whatnot, but it felt weird.
at this point, i feel a little silly wearing a mask. seems pretend.
Why? We know the vaccinated can still spread the virus.
We do? I thought the #data was saying that this isn’t the case, or at least it’s overwhelmingly unlikely to happen.
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I haven't seen anything definitive on the extent the vaccinated can spread because the approval studies didn't look for asymptomatic cases or community spread.
Maybe there's data from Israel or something? What's your data source, DQ?
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And you think all these people will be able to get vaccinated in a couple months or that COVID will be gone by then?
No idea. Maybe. What does it matter? If two years ago someone told a regular person, you singularly have the chance to spare one single person from acquiring a life threatening disease by simply wearing a mask to a grocery store I would have bet 85% of the people would say give me that mask.
If they said this without any good data behind it then no, I really don’t think it would have changed anyone’s behavior.
We know it’s possible for a vaccinated person to get COVID, and (I think) we know it’s possible for a vaccinated person to at least shed the virus, but I’m not sure we actually know that a vaccinated person can effectively infect another person with COVID, much less that they can do so in a way that is life threatening (I’m still not clear how viral load plays into the whole thing).
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I haven't seen anything definitive on the extent the vaccinated can spread because the approval studies didn't look for asymptomatic cases or community spread.
Maybe there's data from Israel or something? What's your data source, DQ?
I haven’t seen anything “definitive” either because the science people are (understandably) slow to make anything “definitive.” But everything I’ve seen suggests that vaccinated people are very unlikely to be infected/spread.
E.g.
https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/new-data-on-covid-19-transmission-by-vaccinated-individuals.html
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And you think all these people will be able to get vaccinated in a couple months or that COVID will be gone by then?
No idea. Maybe. What does it matter? If two years ago someone told a regular person, you singularly have the chance to spare one single person from acquiring a life threatening disease by simply wearing a mask to a grocery store I would have bet 85% of the people would say give me that mask.
If they said this without any good data behind it then no, I really don’t think it would have changed anyone’s behavior.
We know it’s possible for a vaccinated person to get COVID, and (I think) we know it’s possible for a vaccinated person to at least shed the virus, but I’m not sure we actually know that a vaccinated person can effectively infect another person with COVID, much less that they can do so in a way that is life threatening (I’m still not clear how viral load plays into the whole thing).
You're giving voice to exactly what I'm talking about, making excuses for doing something that shouldn't remotely be controversial.
Why do we have to wait for research into viral load to be cautious to protect our fellow man? We know breakthrough cases exist, we even know some people have died as a result of breakthrough cases, what more data do you need to wear a mask while getting some eggs or wall anchors?
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I haven't seen anything definitive on the extent the vaccinated can spread because the approval studies didn't look for asymptomatic cases or community spread.
Maybe there's data from Israel or something? What's your data source, DQ?
I haven’t seen anything “definitive” either because the science people are (understandably) slow to make anything “definitive.” But everything I’ve seen suggests that vaccinated people are very unlikely to be infected/spread.
E.g.
https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/new-data-on-covid-19-transmission-by-vaccinated-individuals.html
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I think both of these stances are reasonable in our current state
The emerging data confirms what many of us thought would be the case—that not only do the vaccines stop symptomatic COVID, but they also make it highly unlikely that someone can even be infected at all.
I think the preponderance of the evidence supports the fact that vaccinated individuals are not able to spread the virus
Current guidance states that even fully vaccinated individuals should continue to wear masks and social distance. What’s the logic behind that?
Operationally, it is very challenging to know who is vaccinated and who is not, so the guidance in public places likely will be slow to change until more people are vaccinated. You can’t expect a cashier to ask for proof of vaccination.
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And you think all these people will be able to get vaccinated in a couple months or that COVID will be gone by then?
No idea. Maybe. What does it matter? If two years ago someone told a regular person, you singularly have the chance to spare one single person from acquiring a life threatening disease by simply wearing a mask to a grocery store I would have bet 85% of the people would say give me that mask.
If they said this without any good data behind it then no, I really don’t think it would have changed anyone’s behavior.
We know it’s possible for a vaccinated person to get COVID, and (I think) we know it’s possible for a vaccinated person to at least shed the virus, but I’m not sure we actually know that a vaccinated person can effectively infect another person with COVID, much less that they can do so in a way that is life threatening (I’m still not clear how viral load plays into the whole thing).
You're giving voice to exactly what I'm talking about, making excuses for doing something that shouldn't remotely be controversial.
Why do we have to wait for research into viral load to be cautious to protect our fellow man? We know breakthrough cases exist, we even know some people have died as a result of breakthrough cases, what more data do you need to wear a mask while getting some eggs or wall anchors?
1. I’ve already posted my general approach to mask wearing in here, which is pretty much anywhere indoors.
2. The problem is that in the absence of good data you are just picking and choosing what people should be overly cautious about.
A far better approach to public health would be to focus on reinforcing behaviors that have the most significant effects on overall health of the community. You’re not going to accomplish anything if the message is people should take every precaution they can until science confirms it’s 100% safe.
All the focus right now should be encouraging people to get vaccinated. After we’ve exhausted that then maybe we can move on to just encouraging better heart health or something. Then let’s start pushing mask use again when flu season comes back around.
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And you think all these people will be able to get vaccinated in a couple months or that COVID will be gone by then?
No idea. Maybe. What does it matter? If two years ago someone told a regular person, you singularly have the chance to spare one single person from acquiring a life threatening disease by simply wearing a mask to a grocery store I would have bet 85% of the people would say give me that mask.
If they said this without any good data behind it then no, I really don’t think it would have changed anyone’s behavior.
We know it’s possible for a vaccinated person to get COVID, and (I think) we know it’s possible for a vaccinated person to at least shed the virus, but I’m not sure we actually know that a vaccinated person can effectively infect another person with COVID, much less that they can do so in a way that is life threatening (I’m still not clear how viral load plays into the whole thing).
You're giving voice to exactly what I'm talking about, making excuses for doing something that shouldn't remotely be controversial.
Why do we have to wait for research into viral load to be cautious to protect our fellow man? We know breakthrough cases exist, we even know some people have died as a result of breakthrough cases, what more data do you need to wear a mask while getting some eggs or wall anchors?
1. I’ve already posted my general approach to mask wearing in here, which is pretty much anywhere indoors.
2. The problem is that in the absence of good data you are just picking and choosing what people should be overly cautious about.
A far better approach to public health would be to focus on reinforcing behaviors that have the most significant effects on overall health of the community. You’re not going to accomplish anything if the message is people should take every precaution they can until science confirms it’s 100% safe.
All the focus right now should be encouraging people to get vaccinated. After we’ve exhausted that then maybe we can move on to just encouraging better heart health or something. Then let’s start pushing mask use again when flu season comes back around.
This is the bottom line.
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I haven't seen anything definitive on the extent the vaccinated can spread because the approval studies didn't look for asymptomatic cases or community spread.
Maybe there's data from Israel or something? What's your data source, DQ?
I haven’t seen anything “definitive” either because the science people are (understandably) slow to make anything “definitive.” But everything I’ve seen suggests that vaccinated people are very unlikely to be infected/spread.
E.g.
https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/new-data-on-covid-19-transmission-by-vaccinated-individuals.html
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I think both of these stances are reasonable in our current state
The emerging data confirms what many of us thought would be the case—that not only do the vaccines stop symptomatic COVID, but they also make it highly unlikely that someone can even be infected at all.
I think the preponderance of the evidence supports the fact that vaccinated individuals are not able to spread the virus
Current guidance states that even fully vaccinated individuals should continue to wear masks and social distance. What’s the logic behind that?
Operationally, it is very challenging to know who is vaccinated and who is not, so the guidance in public places likely will be slow to change until more people are vaccinated. You can’t expect a cashier to ask for proof of vaccination.
Yeah and I get the referenced "operational" logic, but if that's the main reason, that's why it feels a little silly. Apart from some tenuous, macro level benefit at the societal level (i.e. "me wearing the mask indirectly encourages others (who are not vaccinated) wear the mask"), it feels like me wearing this mask isn't actually directly preventing anyone else from getting sick (or at least not at any statistically significant level).
I'm not saying I'm some ardent anti-masker. I've been religious about private/public mask rules for over a year now. It's a minor annoyance at most. But it does feel like a hollow exercise.
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I haven't seen anything definitive on the extent the vaccinated can spread because the approval studies didn't look for asymptomatic cases or community spread.
Maybe there's data from Israel or something? What's your data source, DQ?
I haven’t seen anything “definitive” either because the science people are (understandably) slow to make anything “definitive.” But everything I’ve seen suggests that vaccinated people are very unlikely to be infected/spread.
E.g.
https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/new-data-on-covid-19-transmission-by-vaccinated-individuals.html
:thumbs:
I think both of these stances are reasonable in our current state
The emerging data confirms what many of us thought would be the case—that not only do the vaccines stop symptomatic COVID, but they also make it highly unlikely that someone can even be infected at all.
I think the preponderance of the evidence supports the fact that vaccinated individuals are not able to spread the virus
Current guidance states that even fully vaccinated individuals should continue to wear masks and social distance. What’s the logic behind that?
Operationally, it is very challenging to know who is vaccinated and who is not, so the guidance in public places likely will be slow to change until more people are vaccinated. You can’t expect a cashier to ask for proof of vaccination.
Yeah and I get the referenced "operational" logic, but if that's the main reason, that's why it feels a little silly. Apart from some tenuous, macro level benefit at the societal level (i.e. "me wearing the mask indirectly encourages others (who are not vaccinated) wear the mask"), it feels like me wearing this mask isn't actually directly preventing anyone else from getting sick (or at least not at any statistically significant level).
I'm not saying I'm some ardent anti-masker. I've been religious about private/public mask rules for over a year now. It's a minor annoyance at most. But it does feel like a hollow exercise.
I think there's three main reasons that all work together:
1) the data still isn't conclusive (granted, it's very encouraging, but that doctor definitely said she "thinks" evidence points to no transmission and the study linked actually didn't track community spread (it also didn't account for J&J)
2) no way to know who's vaccinated + children and adolescents haven't been vaccinated (adolescents could be visiting or working at these establishments)
3) It's a minor annoyance at worst (that is also pretty cheap). Wearing a mask at Best Buy or Subway costs the economy like, nothing at all
the three are tied together, and really if you remove one of them from the equation (say conclusive data, 80% vax rates, or expensive inconvenient masks) then I'd agree are probably silly for the most part. Especially when adolescents and kids are able to get fully vaxxed.
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Yesterday I didn't wear a mask at Lowe's but I DID wear a mask at Home Depot.
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Yeah, that adds up
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https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1392898193957003269
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Hell yeah, vaccine passport here I come
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Eff yes
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Time for the entire private sector to require ’chips.
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Finally, just need more chips but good
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Time for the entire private sector to require ’chips.
Final piece of the puzzle
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My president
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1392935976125833226?s=20
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Find me a more effective question for sorting the chipped and the unchipped.
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Vaccine passport by Clear (member of my absolute dogshit ARK funds which desperately need a boost)
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I am going to make my own Gatesport.
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Hell yeah, vaccine passport here I come
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I am going to make my own Gatesport.
How long 'til MAQA-types start thinking of themselves as modern-day resisters (a la those who forged documents to help people escape Nazi Germany) for making fake proof of vaccine cards? I'll be looking for these in the Facebook posts thread.
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Hell yeah, vaccine passport here I come
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I am going to make my own Gatesport.
How long 'til MAQA-types start thinking of themselves as modern-day resisters (a la those who forged documents to help people escape Nazi Germany) for making fake proof of vaccine cards? I'll be looking for these in the Facebook posts thread.
I suspect for concets/pro sports there will be a barcode or something. Honestly, the CDC announcing this is going to force some maga hands.
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good job outta the cdc.
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Hell yeah, vaccine passport here I come
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I am going to make my own Gatesport.
How long 'til MAQA-types start thinking of themselves as modern-day resisters (a la those who forged documents to help people escape Nazi Germany) for making fake proof of vaccine cards? I'll be looking for these in the Facebook posts thread.
I suspect for concets/pro sports there will be a barcode or something. Honestly, the CDC announcing this is going to force some maga hands.
Here's another thought I had: What is the incentive for airlines or bars or concert venues to ask for proof of vaccine? Why wouldn't they just take people at face value that they were vaxxed if they say they are vaxxed / unmasked. I can see the incentive for border customs or a dorm or college sports team or nursing home but not for a place where people are only going to be for a few hours before they go on with the rest of their life.
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Hell yeah, vaccine passport here I come
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I am going to make my own Gatesport.
How long 'til MAQA-types start thinking of themselves as modern-day resisters (a la those who forged documents to help people escape Nazi Germany) for making fake proof of vaccine cards? I'll be looking for these in the Facebook posts thread.
I suspect for concets/pro sports there will be a barcode or something. Honestly, the CDC announcing this is going to force some maga hands.
Here's another thought I had: What is the incentive for airlines or bars or concert venues to ask for proof of vaccine? Why wouldn't they just take people at face value that they were vaxxed if they say they are vaxxed / unmasked. I can see the incentive for border customs or a dorm or college sports team or nursing home but not for a place where people are only going to be for a few hours before they go on with the rest of their life.
To be more attractive to normals.
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Hell yeah, vaccine passport here I come
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How long 'til MAQA-types start thinking of themselves as modern-day resisters (a la those who forged documents to help people escape Nazi Germany) for making fake proof of vaccine cards? I'll be looking for these in the Facebook posts thread.
I suspect for concets/pro sports there will be a barcode or something. Honestly, the CDC announcing this is going to force some maga hands.
Here's another thought I had: What is the incentive for airlines or bars or concert venues to ask for proof of vaccine? Why wouldn't they just take people at face value that they were vaxxed if they say they are vaxxed / unmasked. I can see the incentive for border customs or a dorm or college sports team or nursing home but not for a place where people are only going to be for a few hours before they go on with the rest of their life.
The CDC guidance is more bullish than I expected, and surely it takes into account that it will mean vaccinated people will end up in regular indoor close contact with unvaccinated. Which tells me they see even that as a low risk event. So most likely business won’t care.
That said, I think the exclusivity + safety angle could work plenty of places. Other things being equal, I’d much rather visit places I knew were turning away the unvaxxed masses.
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I think the CDC realized it needed to change its messaging.
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Yea, I mean, good for the CDC, but good grief. They really come across as a tool of the Executive branch in all of this. (Not this decision, but the entire course of the pandemic.)
Also, can't wait for people to conflate the new CDC guidance for some sort of federal law mandating that private businesses cannot require customers to wear masks. People will struggle to differentiate the two, at least when masklessly lying about having been vaxxed. On the other hand, maybe a substantial number of people will lie so much about being vaxxed that they just say eff it, might as well make it official.
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can't wait for people to conflate the new CDC guidance for some sort of federal law mandating that private businesses cannot require customers to wear masks.
i expect that private businesses requiring masks will pretty uncommon sooner rather than later.
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Yea, I mean, good for the CDC, but good grief. They really come across as a tool of the Executive branch in all of this. (Not this decision, but the entire course of the pandemic.)
For sure, more of an indictment of the last two administrations than the CDC itself, bureaucrats shouldn't feel like they have a choice of doing the right thing or doing what will keep their jobs and their kids fed.
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There was some article I remember from January or so, (maybe posted here? Maybe a tweet thread?) about how unprepared we were for how quickly things were going to swing as soon as these super effective vaccines were widely available and that was going to happen sooner than we thought.
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Yea, I mean, good for the CDC, but good grief. They really come across as a tool of the Executive branch in all of this. (Not this decision, but the entire course of the pandemic.)
For sure, more of an indictment of the last two administrations than the CDC itself, bureaucrats shouldn't feel like they have a choice of doing the right thing or doing what will keep their jobs and their kids fed.
Take it to the common ground thread!
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America is BACK BABY!
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There was some article I remember from January or so, (maybe posted here? Maybe a tweet thread?) about how unprepared we were for how quickly things were going to swing as soon as these super effective vaccines were widely available and that was going to happen sooner than we thought.
This one?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731)
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The timing of this announcement just hours after the Yankees announcing that they have 8 breakthrough cases at one time on one damn team is dubious. I don't love it.
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The timing of this announcement just hours after the Yankees announcing that they have 8 breakthrough cases at one time on one damn team is dubious. I don't love it.
We’ve known about breakthrough cases for a while. What has yet to be shown is: (1) a statistically significant number of those developing serious symptoms, and (2) evidence of actual spread from a fully vaccinated person. I guess we’ll see if other Yankees members get it later, indicating spread within the organization rather than just from a common exposure.
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Yes, if you started with the assumption that all Yankees members got JnJ and they were all exposed to the same infected person(s) then the fact 8 players became infected would actually be a little better than expected. Obviously it’s never that clear cut though.
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Yes, if you started with the assumption that all Yankees members got JnJ and they were all exposed to the same infected person(s) then the fact 8 players became infected would actually be a little better than expected. Obviously it’s never that clear cut though.
Your previous post outlined what we don't know about breakthrough cases and specifically not knowing what's going on with the Yankees. The fact of the matter is that we still don't know hardly anything about breakthrough cases and even less about what's going on with the Yankees. It's not 8 players by the way, it's a mix of players and staff..
It very well may turn out to be not a big deal, but as of now a close cluster of 8 vaccinated people testing positive, some of them are symptomatic by the way, is troubling. You certainly can shrug it off, but if we're playing the game of "trust the science" you should be have an eye open to this because the science hasn't given us a reason to be dismissive.
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Yes, if you started with the assumption that all Yankees members got JnJ and they were all exposed to the same infected person(s) then the fact 8 players became infected would actually be a little better than expected. Obviously it’s never that clear cut though.
Your previous post outlined what we don't know about breakthrough cases and specifically not knowing what's going on with the Yankees. The fact of the matter is that we still don't know hardly anything about breakthrough cases and even less about what's going on with the Yankees. It's not 8 players by the way, it's a mix of players and staff..
It very well may turn out to be not a big deal, but as of now a close cluster of 8 vaccinated people testing positive, some of them are symptomatic by the way, is troubling. You certainly can shrug it off, but if we're playing the game of "trust the science" you should be have an eye open to this because the science hasn't given us a reason to be dismissive.
I think only one, Phil Nevin, was symptomatic. At least, that's what I read.
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Yes, if you started with the assumption that all Yankees members got JnJ and they were all exposed to the same infected person(s) then the fact 8 players became infected would actually be a little better than expected. Obviously it’s never that clear cut though.
Your previous post outlined what we don't know about breakthrough cases and specifically not knowing what's going on with the Yankees. The fact of the matter is that we still don't know hardly anything about breakthrough cases and even less about what's going on with the Yankees. It's not 8 players by the way, it's a mix of players and staff..
It very well may turn out to be not a big deal, but as of now a close cluster of 8 vaccinated people testing positive, some of them are symptomatic by the way, is troubling. You certainly can shrug it off, but if we're playing the game of "trust the science" you should be have an eye open to this because the science hasn't given us a reason to be dismissive.
I think only one, Phil Nevin, was symptomatic. At least, that's what I read.
I heard three on whatever ESPN radio show was on when I turned on the work car yesterday morning.
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So i've been walking into stores lately without my mask on and I try to read the room on how everyone feels at said location and almost 90% of the time end up putting it on when I see other ppl wearing there's. It's gonna be awhile before it feels right not to wear one, because I don't wanna be "that guy" in the store.
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So i've been walking into stores lately without my mask on and I try to read the room on how everyone feels at said location and almost 90% of the time end up putting it on when I see other ppl wearing there's. It's gonna be awhile before it feels right not to wear one, because I don't wanna be "that guy" in the store.
Yeah, this is definitely a thing. I have not seen unmasked clerks at QT like kietz was tweeting about.
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So i've been walking into stores lately without my mask on and I try to read the room on how everyone feels at said location and almost 90% of the time end up putting it on when I see other ppl wearing there's. It's gonna be awhile before it feels right not to wear one, because I don't wanna be "that guy" in the store.
I was at an outdoor farmers market that required them, I didn't know this until later. I didn't wear one but 80% did, it was awkward as hell, I felt judged.
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So i've been walking into stores lately without my mask on and I try to read the room on how everyone feels at said location and almost 90% of the time end up putting it on when I see other ppl wearing there's. It's gonna be awhile before it feels right not to wear one, because I don't wanna be "that guy" in the store.
Good call, IMO. Regardless of how I feel I’d still plan to wear a mask if I think it will make others more comfortable.
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5 soccer games in joco this weekend. Have been masked at these for over a year. Not sure the rule now, will report.
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So i've been walking into stores lately without my mask on and I try to read the room on how everyone feels at said location and almost 90% of the time end up putting it on when I see other ppl wearing there's. It's gonna be awhile before it feels right not to wear one, because I don't wanna be "that guy" in the store.
Yeah, this is definitely a thing. I have not seen unmasked clerks at QT like kietz was tweeting about.
I haven't been to any Kansas qts in a while, but the last 2-3 weeks the mo employees I've seen have pretty much all transitioned to the chin diaper approach.
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QT on Blvd is all masks yesterday
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I'm venturing out in Topeka this evening to run couple of errands, curious to see what the mask rate is. Guessing it will be in the 20-50% range.
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The QT I go to all the time has been maskless employees for almost 2 weeks.
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Didn't see until now, Q rescinded masks at noon. We are mask free in KC
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5 soccer games in joco this weekend. Have been masked at these for over a year. Not sure the rule now, will report.
Nearly no one wears masks at OP, OSC or CMSF (Wyandotte County) and it's not required now.
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Was at a JoCo QT on my lunch break today and the sign on the door said "Masks Recommended" instead of the previous "Required".
Drove down the street to Chipotle (still in JoCo) and the sign still said "Required".
Story is rapidly developing...
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as of today, my office is giving people the option to wear a mask or not if you've been jabbed.
have to send a photo of your vax card to HR and then you are free to show people your entire face for the first time since march 2020
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as of today, my office is giving people the option to wear a mask or not if you've been jabbed.
have to send a photo of your vax card to HR and then you are free to show people your entire face for the first time since march 2020
:thumbs:
This needs to be the approach by all of society. ’chip or mask, pick one.
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I got my first poke so I guess that means I only have to wear a mask half of the time lol. Just kidding, I was already only wearing it half the time. LOL. St Joe.
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No masks required in Kentucky businesses. Still required for planes, trains, busses, etc.
Still a good 75% wearing masks in the grocery yesterday. No thanks. I've been jabbed.
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I'm in NYC this week and masks are pretty much done here everywhere but the subway. A few lobbies will make people wear them but like most people don't appear to carry one into any building unless they're working in the service industry.
I think the Bay Area will be the last masking stronghold!!!
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Masks are back, folks. I noticed that more than half of the people were wearing masks on Thursday in Walmart. This was near the university so I attributed that to the college kids being programmed to wear them since they're required in university buildings. Yesterday there was a good amount of folks wearing them in Home Depot. Close to 50%. I put mine on because Home Depot had a sign on saying they were required. I'm not sure if that was new or not. I also noticed the cashier at my breakfast spot started wearing a mask Thursday or Friday. I don't think the city instituted a mask mandate. I think it's general fear about Omicron.
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These maskers should look at the hot piece of ass data about vaccine and boosted hospitalization rates. That combo is virtually an Ironman suit.
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These maskers should look at the hot piece of ass data about vaccine and boosted hospitalization rates. That combo is virtually an Ironman suit.
We don't want to bring the crap home.
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These maskers should look at the hot piece of ass data about vaccine and boosted hospitalization rates. That combo is virtually an Ironman suit.
We don't want to bring the crap home.
The mast doesn't protect you, but it does protect others from you. So it doesn't make a difference if you wear a mast or not as far as keeping that crap out of your house.
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These maskers should look at the hot piece of ass data about vaccine and boosted hospitalization rates. That combo is virtually an Ironman suit.
We don't want to bring the crap home.
The mast doesn't protect you, but it does protect others from you. So it doesn't make a difference if you wear a mast or not as far as keeping that crap out of your house.
Proper N95/KN95's do good at preventing intaking the COVID from spreaders, even unmasked ones. I still prefer they be masked in indoor places and try my best to make them feel like crap when they aren't.
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These maskers should look at the hot piece of ass data about vaccine and boosted hospitalization rates. That combo is virtually an Ironman suit.
We don't want to bring the crap home.
The mast doesn't protect you, but it does protect others from you. So it doesn't make a difference if you wear a mast or not as far as keeping that crap out of your house.
Proper N95/KN95's do good at preventing intaking the COVID from spreaders, even unmasked ones. I still prefer they be masked in indoor places and try my best to make them feel like crap when they aren't.
CDC and their mouthpiece said over a year ago that the mast does not protect the wearer. It only protects others from your infected ass blowing spit and snot on them. Your hands, eyes, and face can get this crap on them from those that don't wear a mask. The only way to keep from spreading it is for everyone to wear a mask. This is so rough ridin' simple that I can't believe people are so stupid to not understand.
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These maskers should look at the hot piece of ass data about vaccine and boosted hospitalization rates. That combo is virtually an Ironman suit.
We don't want to bring the crap home.
The mast doesn't protect you, but it does protect others from you. So it doesn't make a difference if you wear a mast or not as far as keeping that crap out of your house.
Proper N95/KN95's do good at preventing intaking the COVID from spreaders, even unmasked ones. I still prefer they be masked in indoor places and try my best to make them feel like crap when they aren't.
CDC and their mouthpiece said over a year ago that the mast does not protect the wearer. It only protects others from your infected ass blowing spit and snot on them. Your hands, eyes, and face can get this crap on them from those that don't wear a mask. The only way to keep from spreading it is for everyone to wear a mask. This is so rough ridin' simple that I can't believe people are so stupid to not understand.
That was the basic-ass cloth or medical masks that don't seal to your face. Definitely crazy that everyone isn't wearing good masks during this worst of transmissibility, but of course they're not. Get yourself some good N95's and limit your exposure to assholes.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/01/does-it-help-wear-mask-if-no-one-else/621177/
Ideally, everyone would wear masks indoors for the next few weeks. That’s not going to happen, though. The good news is that if you’re boosted and wear a high-quality mask, you’ll probably be okay anyway. Some experts even think people who are triple-vaccinated and wearing N95s can go about their normal activities. “They should feel pretty safe because the booster provides strong protection against severe outcomes, and even if infected people are present and releasing viruses into the air, a properly fitting N95 will reduce the amount you breathe in by 95 percent or more,” says Linsey Marr, an environmental engineer at Virginia Tech who specializes in airborne transmission. “The combination of vaccination with [a] booster and an N95 provides excellent protection.”
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These maskers should look at the hot piece of ass data about vaccine and boosted hospitalization rates. That combo is virtually an Ironman suit.
We don't want to bring the crap home.
Isn’t everyone in your house also wearing an Ironman suit?
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These maskers should look at the hot piece of ass data about vaccine and boosted hospitalization rates. That combo is virtually an Ironman suit.
We don't want to bring the crap home.
The mast doesn't protect you, but it does protect others from you. So it doesn't make a difference if you wear a mast or not as far as keeping that crap out of your house.
Proper N95/KN95's do good at preventing intaking the COVID from spreaders, even unmasked ones. I still prefer they be masked in indoor places and try my best to make them feel like crap when they aren't.
CDC and their mouthpiece said over a year ago that the mast does not protect the wearer. It only protects others from your infected ass blowing spit and snot on them. Your hands, eyes, and face can get this crap on them from those that don't wear a mask. The only way to keep from spreading it is for everyone to wear a mask. This is so rough ridin' simple that I can't believe people are so stupid to not understand.
That was the basic-ass cloth or medical masks that don't seal to your face. Definitely crazy that everyone isn't wearing good masks during this worst of transmissibility, but of course they're not. Get yourself some good N95's and limit your exposure to assholes.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/01/does-it-help-wear-mask-if-no-one-else/621177/
Ideally, everyone would wear masks indoors for the next few weeks. That’s not going to happen, though. The good news is that if you’re boosted and wear a high-quality mask, you’ll probably be okay anyway. Some experts even think people who are triple-vaccinated and wearing N95s can go about their normal activities. “They should feel pretty safe because the booster provides strong protection against severe outcomes, and even if infected people are present and releasing viruses into the air, a properly fitting N95 will reduce the amount you breathe in by 95 percent or more,” says Linsey Marr, an environmental engineer at Virginia Tech who specializes in airborne transmission. “The combination of vaccination with [a] booster and an N95 provides excellent protection.”
A full mask covering like the clear plastic ones would provide more protection than a fricking face mask.
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These maskers should look at the hot piece of ass data about vaccine and boosted hospitalization rates. That combo is virtually an Ironman suit.
We don't want to bring the crap home.
Isn’t everyone in your house also wearing an Ironman suit?
Unfortunately not the little guy, tell Pfizer to get their crap together.
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A cloth mask still provides some level of protection but obviously an N95 or surgical mask is better.
And while I haven't seen folks with covid post-boost, what I've seen from vaccinated folks who had it will keep me wearing masks in crowded indoor places for a while. Covid still sucks even if it doesn't put you in the hospital!
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These maskers should look at the hot piece of ass data about vaccine and boosted hospitalization rates. That combo is virtually an Ironman suit.
It's still a novel virus that attacks your brain, heart, and lungs. Seems like there might be some potential for long term effects.
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These maskers should look at the hot piece of ass data about vaccine and boosted hospitalization rates. That combo is virtually an Ironman suit.
It's still a novel virus that attacks your brain, heart, and lungs. Seems like there might be some potential for long term effects.
I'm quite surprised that companies aren't requiring employees such as store clerks to wear an N-95 mask with a full face plastic shied. I would bet if one had the means, he/she could sue for being exposed to a deadly disease.
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These maskers should look at the hot piece of ass data about vaccine and boosted hospitalization rates. That combo is virtually an Ironman suit.
It's still a novel virus that attacks your brain, heart, and lungs. Seems like there might be some potential for long term effects.
I'm quite surprised that companies aren't requiring employees such as store clerks to wear an N-95 mask with a full face plastic shied. I would bet if one had the means, he/she could sue for being exposed to a deadly disease.