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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2020, 05:34:22 PM
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https://twitter.com/Thekstatefan/status/1249740869181243393
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PG: Stokes
SG: Diarra
SF: Sneed
PF: Beasley
C: Samuels
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Beasley
Pullen
Stokes
Nino
DJamer
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Beasley
Pullen
Brown
My team is on the floor.
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another team with value would be
Kent
DJamer
Denis
Marcus
Wesley
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PG: Denis
SG: Diarra
SF: Southwell
PF: Beas
C: JO
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C: DJamer
PF: Wade
SF: Beas
Guards: Sprads/Stokes
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Gimme 5 Sprads and keep the change.
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Beaz
Wade
Nino
Diarra
KAM
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I feel like this thing mind mumped us all to not choose Bill Walker.
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https://twitter.com/trimgoemaw/status/1249762186601230337
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You can build a solid squad other ways, but to build the best you absolutely have to have Beaz on there.
Beaz and Denis plus whoever is probably best way to go, but Beaz, Pullen + any $3 and 2 $1/2 $2 and a $1 is tough also
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I feel like this thing mind mumped us all to not choose Bill Walker.
I think you can say that about any of the $4 options. I don't know if the person putting it together did it on purpose but they really made this hard.
The $1 list is so bad compared to the $2 list that you feel like you can't take any of the $1 guys which makes the $4 virtually untouchable. I mean the best two guys on that $1 are Clent (who with equal coaching would completely skull shazbot! Will) and White Tiger.
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This would be fun to do for KU. Of course you would be working with $50,000 donor funds and one get out of jail free card. You would have to remember which players only got clipped for a DUI or weed and then didn't go home and kick/rape/punch a girl to get off on a second offense. :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:)
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Looking at this made me think of something random, but... 6 of our top 20 guys over the last 12 years are left handed. That has to be an insanely high percentage and the highest in the country, right?
Lefty U?
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Beasley - duh
Foster - not too much dropoff from Pullen/Brown, saves $1
DJamer - underrated, comparable to CK, Gip
Shane - underrated, comparable to Sutton, Sneed
Diarra - way underrated - comparable to Wes
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1 - Dennis $4
2 - Carti $2
3 - Shane $2
4 - Beasley $5
5 - JO $2
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1 - Dennis $4
2 - Carti $2
3 - Shane $2
4 - Beasley $5
5 - JO $2
Damn, that's pretty good
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1 - Dennis $4
2 - Carti $2
3 - Shane $2
4 - Beasley $5
5 - JO $2
Damn, that's pretty good
it was even better when i posted that lineup yesterday
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1 - Dennis $4
2 - Carti $2
3 - Shane $2
4 - Beasley $5
5 - JO $2
Damn, that's pretty good
it was even better when i posted that lineup yesterday
lol, sorry m2
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Beasley
Pullen
DJamer
Southwell
Nino
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alternative:
CK
Denis
Walker
Southwell
Nino
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1 - Dennis $4
2 - Carti $2
3 - Shane $2
4 - Beasley $5
5 - JO $2
Damn, that's pretty good
it was even better when i posted that lineup yesterday
lol, sorry m2
:D
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DJamer - underrated, comparable to CK
:confused:
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beasley should cost all $15 dollars
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beasley should cost all $15 dollars
at least $10
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If Beasley cost $11 I would still pick him
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DJamer - underrated, comparable to CK
:confused:
Similar body type and skill set, 11 ppg and 6 rpg for each
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Stokes
Stewart
Southwell
Wade
Beasley
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DJamer - underrated, comparable to CK
:confused:
Similar body type and skill set, 11 ppg and 6 rpg for each
i'm not sure if that's true or not, but ck didn't get the number of shots he could have playing along side pullen and denis. ck was a much better shooter and better off the dribble, more of a 4 and i think of DJamer as more of a 5, although he could hit a set 15 footer
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i'm not ready to say DJamer=CK but DJamer at $2 is incredible value.
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DJamer is Kroger :ck:
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DJamer - underrated, comparable to CK
:confused:
Similar body type and skill set, 11 ppg and 6 rpg for each
i'm not sure if that's true or not, but ck didn't get the number of shots he could have playing along side pullen and denis. ck was a much better shooter and better off the dribble, more of a 4 and i think of DJamer as more of a 5, although he could hit a set 15 footer
The stats are correct. And CK took 1-2 more shots per game than DJamer. Comparable minutes played.
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Ranked by highest single year total at K-State.
| Value | Player | ppg | rpg | apg | mpg | ppg+rpg+apg/mpg |
| $5 | Beasley | 26.2 | 12.4 | 1.2 | 31.5 | 1.263492063 |
| $5 | Walker | 16.1 | 6.3 | 1.9 | 27.3 | 0.89010989 |
| $5 | Pullen | 20.2 | 2.9 | 3.7 | 32.6 | 0.82208589 |
| $5 | Wade | 16.2 | 6.2 | 2.7 | 32.8 | 0.765243902 |
| $5 | Kelly | 11.5 | 6.2 | 1.6 | 25.4 | 0.75984252 |
| $4 | Westicles | 13 | 6.3 | 3.5 | 31.4 | 0.72611465 |
| $4 | Foster | 15.5 | 3.2 | 2.5 | 29.4 | 0.721088435 |
| $4 | Gipson | 11.7 | 6.5 | 0.6 | 26.5 | 0.709433962 |
| $4 | Kent | 9 | 5.8 | 1.3 | 23 | 0.7 |
| $4 | Henriquez | 7.6 | 5.8 | 0.7 | 20.4 | 0.691176471 |
| $3 | McGruder | 15.6 | 5.4 | 2 | 33.5 | 0.686567164 |
| $3 | Diarra | 13.3 | 3.8 | 4.2 | 31.3 | 0.680511182 |
| $3 | Samuels | 10 | 6.6 | 1.4 | 26.5 | 0.679245283 |
| $3 | Edwards | 12.7 | 5.9 | 2.8 | 31.6 | 0.67721519 |
| $3 | Johnson | 11.3 | 5.7 | 0.4 | 26 | 0.669230769 |
| $2 | Clemente | 16.6 | 2.4 | 4.2 | 34.7 | 0.668587896 |
| $2 | Williams | 11.4 | 5.3 | 1.1 | 26.9 | 0.661710037 |
| $2 | Brown | 15.9 | 3.1 | 3.2 | 34.7 | 0.639769452 |
| $2 | Sneed | 14.2 | 4.8 | 1.7 | 32.5 | 0.636923077 |
| $2 | Southwell | 9.9 | 4.3 | 2.7 | 26.9 | 0.628252788 |
| $1 | Mawien | 7.4 | 5.4 | 0.5 | 21.3 | 0.624413146 |
| $1 | Sutton | 7.2 | 5.8 | 1.9 | 24.2 | 0.615702479 |
| $1 | Stokes | 11.7 | 2.6 | 4.1 | 33.3 | 0.552552553 |
| $1 | Spradling | 9.3 | 2.1 | 2.8 | 31.2 | 0.455128205 |
| $1 | Stewart | 6.7 | 3 | 3.1 | 29.1 | 0.439862543 |
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DJamer - underrated, comparable to CK
:confused:
Similar body type and skill set, 11 ppg and 6 rpg for each
i'm not sure if that's true or not, but ck didn't get the number of shots he could have playing along side pullen and denis. ck was a much better shooter and better off the dribble, more of a 4 and i think of DJamer as more of a 5, although he could hit a set 15 footer
The stats are correct. And CK took 1-2 more shots per game than DJamer. Comparable minutes played.
I take it back. DJamer is bad at assists.
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You can build a solid squad other ways, but to build the best you absolutely have to have Beaz on there.
Beaz and Denis plus whoever is probably best way to go, but Beaz, Pullen + any $3 and 2 $1/2 $2 and a $1 is tough also
Beaz and Jake plus an assortment. I'd probably do JamSam then add two $1 players. Maybe Mak and Sprads and just tell Sprads he's not allowed to shoot unless he's wide open.
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Beasley - duh
Pullen - duh
Diarra - $1 undervalued
JO - $2 undervalued
Kent - $3 undervalued :eek:
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Ranked by highest single year total at K-State.
| Value | Player | ppg | rpg | apg | mpg | ppg+rpg+apg/mpg |
| $5 | Beasley | 26.2 | 12.4 | 1.2 | 31.5 | 1.263492063 |
| $5 | Walker | 16.1 | 6.3 | 1.9 | 27.3 | 0.89010989 |
| $5 | Pullen | 20.2 | 2.9 | 3.7 | 32.6 | 0.82208589 |
| $5 | Wade | 16.2 | 6.2 | 2.7 | 32.8 | 0.765243902 |
| $5 | Kelly | 11.5 | 6.2 | 1.6 | 25.4 | 0.75984252 |
| $4 | Westicles | 13 | 6.3 | 3.5 | 31.4 | 0.72611465 |
| $4 | Foster | 15.5 | 3.2 | 2.5 | 29.4 | 0.721088435 |
| $4 | Gipson | 11.7 | 6.5 | 0.6 | 26.5 | 0.709433962 |
| $4 | Kent | 9 | 5.8 | 1.3 | 23 | 0.7 |
| $4 | Henriquez | 7.6 | 5.8 | 0.7 | 20.4 | 0.691176471 |
| $3 | McGruder | 15.6 | 5.4 | 2 | 33.5 | 0.686567164 |
| $3 | Diarra | 13.3 | 3.8 | 4.2 | 31.3 | 0.680511182 |
| $3 | Samuels | 10 | 6.6 | 1.4 | 26.5 | 0.679245283 |
| $3 | Edwards | 12.7 | 5.9 | 2.8 | 31.6 | 0.67721519 |
| $3 | Johnson | 11.3 | 5.7 | 0.4 | 26 | 0.669230769 |
| $2 | Clemente | 16.6 | 2.4 | 4.2 | 34.7 | 0.668587896 |
| $2 | Williams | 11.4 | 5.3 | 1.1 | 26.9 | 0.661710037 |
| $2 | Brown | 15.9 | 3.1 | 3.2 | 34.7 | 0.639769452 |
| $2 | Sneed | 14.2 | 4.8 | 1.7 | 32.5 | 0.636923077 |
| $2 | Southwell | 9.9 | 4.3 | 2.7 | 26.9 | 0.628252788 |
| $1 | Mawien | 7.4 | 5.4 | 0.5 | 21.3 | 0.624413146 |
| $1 | Sutton | 7.2 | 5.8 | 1.9 | 24.2 | 0.615702479 |
| $1 | Stokes | 11.7 | 2.6 | 4.1 | 33.3 | 0.552552553 |
| $1 | Spradling | 9.3 | 2.1 | 2.8 | 31.2 | 0.455128205 |
| $1 | Stewart | 6.7 | 3 | 3.1 | 29.1 | 0.439862543 |
Using your numbers, what would the correct answer be (regardless of position)?
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Combination that yields the highest point total.
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Beasley
Pullen
JO
Shane
Kent
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Combination that yields the highest point total.
That's what I was wondering, I didn't want to figure it out though
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The hard part is making sure you'll like the whole team.
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Ranked by highest single year total at K-State.
| Value | Player | ppg | rpg | apg | mpg | ppg+rpg+apg/mpg |
| $5 | Beasley | 26.2 | 12.4 | 1.2 | 31.5 | 1.263492063 |
| $5 | Walker | 16.1 | 6.3 | 1.9 | 27.3 | 0.89010989 |
| $5 | Pullen | 20.2 | 2.9 | 3.7 | 32.6 | 0.82208589 |
| $5 | Wade | 16.2 | 6.2 | 2.7 | 32.8 | 0.765243902 |
| $5 | Kelly | 11.5 | 6.2 | 1.6 | 25.4 | 0.75984252 |
| $4 | Westicles | 13 | 6.3 | 3.5 | 31.4 | 0.72611465 |
| $4 | Foster | 15.5 | 3.2 | 2.5 | 29.4 | 0.721088435 |
| $4 | Gipson | 11.7 | 6.5 | 0.6 | 26.5 | 0.709433962 |
| $4 | Kent | 9 | 5.8 | 1.3 | 23 | 0.7 |
| $4 | Henriquez | 7.6 | 5.8 | 0.7 | 20.4 | 0.691176471 |
| $3 | McGruder | 15.6 | 5.4 | 2 | 33.5 | 0.686567164 |
| $3 | Diarra | 13.3 | 3.8 | 4.2 | 31.3 | 0.680511182 |
| $3 | Samuels | 10 | 6.6 | 1.4 | 26.5 | 0.679245283 |
| $3 | Edwards | 12.7 | 5.9 | 2.8 | 31.6 | 0.67721519 |
| $3 | Johnson | 11.3 | 5.7 | 0.4 | 26 | 0.669230769 |
| $2 | Clemente | 16.6 | 2.4 | 4.2 | 34.7 | 0.668587896 |
| $2 | Williams | 11.4 | 5.3 | 1.1 | 26.9 | 0.661710037 |
| $2 | Brown | 15.9 | 3.1 | 3.2 | 34.7 | 0.639769452 |
| $2 | Sneed | 14.2 | 4.8 | 1.7 | 32.5 | 0.636923077 |
| $2 | Southwell | 9.9 | 4.3 | 2.7 | 26.9 | 0.628252788 |
| $1 | Mawien | 7.4 | 5.4 | 0.5 | 21.3 | 0.624413146 |
| $1 | Sutton | 7.2 | 5.8 | 1.9 | 24.2 | 0.615702479 |
| $1 | Stokes | 11.7 | 2.6 | 4.1 | 33.3 | 0.552552553 |
| $1 | Spradling | 9.3 | 2.1 | 2.8 | 31.2 | 0.455128205 |
| $1 | Stewart | 6.7 | 3 | 3.1 | 29.1 | 0.439862543 |
Thanks for this, White Tiger coming in as the top bargain
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The hard part is making sure you'll like the whole team.
Nah, not that many that are unlikable, and like I said, don't pick a $1 player and you're generally good. On that note Edwards being a $3 is the most hilarious thing ever. I think he and Mak are the only people I haven't seen picked any of the places where this appears. I don't know if anyone is taking Edwards as a free spot.
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Yeah, the Edwards price was lol. But with Beaz should be $11 and everyone else wouldn't matter.
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Combination that yields the highest point total.
That's what I was wondering, I didn't want to figure it out though
Umm, yeah, this sucks. Subset sum problem. I'm giving up.
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diarra will make your team lose a lot
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1 - foster
2 - spracne
3 - diarra
4 - beasley
5 - sneed
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diarra will make your team lose a lot
old white guy alert
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Combination that yields the highest point total.
That's what I was wondering, I didn't want to figure it out though
Umm, yeah, this sucks. Subset sum problem. I'm giving up.
Here's a stab at the dumb formula team. Ranking 1-25, the formula total for
1,2,16,17,21 = 4.1083
1,2,11,21,22 = 4.0803
1,6,11,16,21 = 3.9692
1. Beasley
2. Walker
16. Clemente
17. Williams
21. Mawien
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This is a lot of fun.
Aside from the obvious few at the top, Hot Rod and Wes are 2 of my favorite K-State players of all time, and I'm struggling to find a spot for either of them in any scenario.
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Wade $5
Pullen $5
Stewart $1
Shane $2
Carti $2
We're running 4 out 1 in or 5-out.
Mike $5
Bill $4
Jamar $3
Shane $2
Clent $1
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Here's the top ten teams
(https://i.imgur.com/fMC7jlx.png)
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Cool
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The Beasley-Walker-Clemente-Sutton-____ options intrigued me but just those main 4 are $16 even w/o a 5th.
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Here's the top ten teams
(https://i.imgur.com/fMC7jlx.png)
Beasley-Brown-Clemente-Sutton-Walker = $21?
Let's just ignore the rules of the game now.
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Uh oh I might have mocatted something here...
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Uh oh I might have mocatted something here...
I should have been clear, I was using Chum's values.
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Using chum's stats, I did some rescaling of the $ amounts to more accurately reflect value:
(https://i.imgur.com/DH4CmUB.png)
Now the top ten teams are:
(https://i.imgur.com/yPAyfxp.png)
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And as Chingon ruins this thread...
If we use the values in the tweet + the stats Chum provided:
(https://i.imgur.com/uxgpwlT.png)
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flawed way of doing it IMO because certain players were on worse teams which inflates their stats.
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Look at all of the underrateds! Kent on all top 9 teams!!!
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Beasley-Gip-JO-Walker-Nino
Yeah, this is a doozy of a lineup.
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Ok, Beasley-CK-White Tiger-Maween-Walker is my favorite.
Their zone D would be amazingly entertaining.
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Beasley-Gip-JO-Walker-Nino
Yeah, this is a doozy of a lineup.
I love a few dudes on this team but this team might be more dog crap than the teams that Chingon's initial mocatted formula yielded.