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Title: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 08, 2020, 08:42:38 PM
Let’s start with.... Jackbooted Thugs arresting a dude playing in a park with his 6yo daughter.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-officer-arrested-park-throwing-ball-daughter-due/story?id=70032966 (https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-officer-arrested-park-throwing-ball-daughter-due/story?id=70032966)

I think this is my favorite part.

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Mooney said he told officers that he was familiar with the posted rules and believed he and his family were in compliance and practicing proper social distancing. He said he refused to provide his identification when officers asked for it because he had not broken any law.

"Well, they didn't like that idea. They then proceeded to make a threat against me saying, 'If you don't give us your identification, if you don't identify yourself, we're going to put you in handcuffs in front of your 6-year-old daughter.'"

Yup, nothing says super fascisty like threatening to traumatize a 6yo unless you show your papers.

Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 08, 2020, 08:46:17 PM
It’s incredible rough ridin' idiots like KSUW who have been proven wrong over this SO many times continue posting. It’s like he’s oblivious to how rough ridin' wrong he has been. Instead of admitting he was wrong, he makes it a political issue. Just unreal levels of incompetence.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 08, 2020, 08:54:38 PM
It’s incredible rough ridin' idiots like KSUW who have been proven wrong over this SO many times continue posting. It’s like he’s oblivious to how rough ridin' wrong he has been. Instead of admitting he was wrong, he makes it a political issue. Just unreal levels of incompetence.

This is a great addition. Didn’t even read the article (in which officers apologized and admitted the man hadn’t broken the law). Just total RAGE.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: star seed 7 on April 08, 2020, 08:56:44 PM
Naw, this is a valid thread. Interesting that this is the instance that kdub learns maybe not all police are the good guys
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 08, 2020, 08:56:47 PM
It’s incredible rough ridin' idiots like KSUW who have been proven wrong over this SO many times continue posting. It’s like he’s oblivious to how rough ridin' wrong he has been. Instead of admitting he was wrong, he makes it a political issue. Just unreal levels of incompetence.

This is a great addition. Didn’t even read the article (in which officers apologized and admitted the man hadn’t broken the law). Just total RAGE.
Why would I read the article? The only reason I can come up with is it’s only going to online for a short period of time before it’s taken down for false information.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: catastrophe on April 08, 2020, 09:22:47 PM
KSUW hating our boys in blue is quite the turn of events.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 08, 2020, 09:26:31 PM
Agree with kaz, that police office should be jailed
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: sys on April 08, 2020, 09:48:25 PM
police are bad, covid 19 hasn't changed that.


some of the restrictions on outdoor recreation seem pretty pointless to me.  fortunately the united states hasn't gone very far down that route.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 08, 2020, 10:20:22 PM
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Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: michigancat on April 08, 2020, 10:31:06 PM
Yeah cops suck
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 08, 2020, 10:34:59 PM
Have none of you read my entrapment posts? I’m extremely skeptical of police power.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 08, 2020, 10:49:57 PM
Have none of you read my entrapment posts? I’m extremely skeptical of police power.
I’m pretty sure most people are skeptical of articles you post. You know, since most recent ones have been taken down because they literally contain false propaganda. You continue to read and belief this false info stuff tho, so can you really be surprised people don’t take you seriously?
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 08, 2020, 10:56:58 PM
Have none of you read my entrapment posts? I’m extremely skeptical of police power.
I’m pretty sure most people are skeptical of articles you post. You know, since most recent ones have been taken down because they literally contain false propaganda. You continue to read and belief this false info stuff tho, so can you really be surprised people don’t take you seriously?

Chill friend. You don’t have to engage. It’s going to be ok. :hug:
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 08, 2020, 10:59:47 PM
Have none of you read my entrapment posts? I’m extremely skeptical of police power.
I’m pretty sure most people are skeptical of articles you post. You know, since most recent ones have been taken down because they literally contain false propaganda. You continue to read and belief this false info stuff tho, so can you really be surprised people don’t take you seriously?

Chill friend. You don’t have to engage. It’s going to be ok. :hug:

We aren’t friends, you are a POS. It will be ok if you actually follow guidelines. Ski trip cancelled, bummer. Be a better human and think about more than yourself.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: Spracne on April 08, 2020, 11:15:41 PM
So, what's everyone drinking tonight?
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 08, 2020, 11:18:18 PM
Dax’s coronavirus-riddled blood
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 08, 2020, 11:33:42 PM
So, what's everyone drinking tonight?

Fortunately liquor stores are “essential.” Did anyone figure that one out?
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: star seed 7 on April 08, 2020, 11:43:38 PM
What's to figure out?
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 08, 2020, 11:53:19 PM
Why boozing up is essential while we’re destroying other businesses. I googled it and apparently we have to keep supplying booze addicts so they don’t go through withdrawal. Not kidding. Do I have that right? Seems more likely to me that they’ve just got better lobbyists.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2020, 12:11:32 AM
Why boozing up is essential while we’re destroying other businesses. I googled it and apparently we have to keep supplying booze addicts so they don’t go through withdrawal. Not kidding. Do I have that right? Seems more likely to me that they’ve just got better lobbyists.

Keeping alcoholics from withdrawal is honestly a good reason. It's a really nasty withdraw for a lot of folks, like you'd seriously end up with a tons of people going to the hospital if they don't drink a fifth of whiskey a day.

And obviously allowing booze makes sheltering in place a lot more pleasant for people who manage their alcohol use more responsibly.

Not sure who you think they have better lobbyists than?
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: star seed 7 on April 09, 2020, 12:29:03 AM
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Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 09, 2020, 01:45:03 AM
So, what's everyone drinking tonight?

Fortunately liquor stores are “essential.” Did anyone figure that one out?

Am I being too elite in asking why none of you idiots have delivery for food and booze?  Or is this a weird thing that the fake religious are using about not being able to go to virus Easter spread services at their church building?
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: gatoveintisiete on April 09, 2020, 04:52:31 AM
How did former also ran dabigtrain become one of this boards most elite posters in the blink of an eye?
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 09, 2020, 07:28:06 AM
Why boozing up is essential while we’re destroying other businesses. I googled it and apparently we have to keep supplying booze addicts so they don’t go through withdrawal. Not kidding. Do I have that right? Seems more likely to me that they’ve just got better lobbyists.

Keeping alcoholics from withdrawal is honestly a good reason. It's a really nasty withdraw for a lot of folks, like you'd seriously end up with a tons of people going to the hospital if they don't drink a fifth of whiskey a day.

And obviously allowing booze makes sheltering in place a lot more pleasant for people who manage their alcohol use more responsibly.

Not sure who you think they have better lobbyists than?

I think this has been tried on a smaller scale in certain cities (liberal enclaves), but I think this might be the first time we’ve ever decided that it’s best to keep giving the addicts their fix. Should work out well for all victims of domestic and child abuse.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: catastrophe on April 09, 2020, 07:54:27 AM
Domestic violence is still illegal, btw.

And not allowing alcohol sales would shutter a lot of small business.

I’m really not sure what you’re arguing for here given that allowing alcohol sales is the status quo. If it’s that they should also designate rehab programs as essential businesses then I’d agree.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: ChiComCat on April 09, 2020, 08:10:41 AM
Allowing liquor stores to stay home also helps to keep people/bars from breaking rules.

Victims of domestic/child abuse are going to increase and be an issue during a stay at home order regardless of anything.  If you actually give a crap more than making a sarcastic joke at their expense, you can donate at mesikansas.org.  They also are in particular need of cleaning/sanitation supplies.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: catastrophe on April 09, 2020, 08:31:22 AM
Some of the closures are definitely arbitrary. Dry cleaners are considered essential business here.

I think leaving all consumable products available (and methods to ship them) makes perfect sense, though.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2020, 09:32:22 AM


Why boozing up is essential while we’re destroying other businesses. I googled it and apparently we have to keep supplying booze addicts so they don’t go through withdrawal. Not kidding. Do I have that right? Seems more likely to me that they’ve just got better lobbyists.

Keeping alcoholics from withdrawal is honestly a good reason. It's a really nasty withdraw for a lot of folks, like you'd seriously end up with a tons of people going to the hospital if they don't drink a fifth of whiskey a day.

And obviously allowing booze makes sheltering in place a lot more pleasant for people who manage their alcohol use more responsibly.

Not sure who you think they have better lobbyists than?

I think this has been tried on a smaller scale in certain cities (liberal enclaves), but I think this might be the first time we’ve ever decided that it’s best to keep giving the addicts their fix. Should work out well for all victims of domestic and child abuse.

Wichita has multiple methadone clinics. Obviously not exactly the same as selling opioids legally to anyone at a store, but as a society we've sort of made a contract with alcoholics that we'll let them buy as much as they want for their addiction as long as everything else they're doing is legal. Taking that away cold turkey would legitimately put a lot of people in the hospital.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: 8manpick on April 09, 2020, 10:54:46 AM
Alcohol is one of a very few addictive substances where the withdrawal itself can be fatal
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: Phil Titola on April 09, 2020, 11:05:57 AM
So weird.  Want businesses open but mad businesses are open.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: nicname on April 09, 2020, 11:11:06 AM
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Oh man this made my morning.

 :lol:
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: DQ12 on April 09, 2020, 11:11:47 AM
Alcohol is one of a very few addictive substances where the withdrawal itself can be fatal
Yeah detoxing millions of addicts while also trying to keep hospitals empty is a great idea.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 09, 2020, 11:14:04 AM
So weird.  Want businesses open but mad businesses are open.

Only the businesses I like, and churches.  But close abortion clinics because Jesus
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: treysolid on April 09, 2020, 11:14:40 AM
So weird.  Want businesses open but mad businesses are open.

I think he wants us godless, hypocritical libs to be mad that liquor stores are open
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: star seed 7 on April 09, 2020, 11:19:35 AM
It's important to keep in mind that kdub was very upset when during a federal government shutdown (something he views as a positive) the national parks system was closed.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 09, 2020, 11:27:12 AM
yes it is virtue signaling. 
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: MakeItRain on April 10, 2020, 12:38:02 PM
Don't grocery stores sell alcohol? How would you purpose letting grocery stores and gas stations sell alcohol but not let liquor stores? What will be interesting to see is what happens at these places that are now restricting items that can be sold within stores.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
There are a lot of Pit’rs whose raison d'etre seems to be taking comments wildly out of context and or distorting them to make a snarky comment.

The point I was making with liquor stores, and numerous other businesses, is that the distinction between “essential vs non-essential” business seems highly arbitrary and unlikely to meaningfully slow the spread when you consider how many “essential businesses” remain open. I think it would have been smarter to identify and restrict certain businesses that are both high-risk for spread (due to close personal contact, food, etc.) and non-essential. Gyms, movie theaters, and restaurant dine-in service, for example, made sense. But closing down thousands of small businesses (just in Kansas alone) when the grocery stores, hardware stores, gas stations, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. remain open is both arbitrary and illogical. And liquor stores aren’t even “essential” in my opinion. My goodness, I think Rusty just compared liquor stores to methadone clinics! :lol:

No, snarky dumbasses, I’m not mad that those businesses are open, I’m pointing out that closing down other business when so many high-density, high-contact businesses stay open is arbitrary, illogical, and likely ineffectual.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 02:33:31 PM
yes it is virtue signaling.

This is pretty rich. I think the folks screaming about how “if it saves one life” it’s worth trashing the economy (Gov. Cuomo et al) is the ultimate virtue signaling.

You people have abandoned all reason and perspective. It’s really something to behold. There is a sensible middle-way here, and you all are just running off the cliff.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2020, 02:36:21 PM
We'll find out just how much Useful Idiot Nation has been assimilated into THE MAN in the next 6 to 12 months.   As both Google and Apple announced a partnership to track all the Typhoid and Non Typhoid Mary's out there.     Toss in Useful Idiot Techno Oligarch Hero (Useful Idiot TechBots used to hate the man) Bill Gates and his digital "Your Clean" certificate for good measure.

Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2020, 02:37:30 PM
There are a lot of Pit’rs whose raison d'etre seems to be taking comments wildly out of context and or distorting them to make a snarky comment.

The point I was making with liquor stores, and numerous other businesses, is that the distinction between “essential vs non-essential” business seems highly arbitrary and unlikely to meaningfully slow the spread when you consider how many “essential businesses” remain open. I think it would have been smarter to identify and restrict certain businesses that are both high-risk for spread (due to close personal contact, food, etc.) and non-essential. Gyms, movie theaters, and restaurant dine-in service, for example, made sense. But closing down thousands of small businesses (just in Kansas alone) when the grocery stores, hardware stores, gas stations, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. remain open is both arbitrary and illogical. And liquor stores aren’t even “essential” in my opinion. My goodness, I think Rusty just compared liquor stores to methadone clinics! :lol:

No, snarky dumbasses, I’m not mad that those businesses are open, I’m pointing out that closing down other business when so many high-density, high-contact businesses stay open is arbitrary, illogical, and likely ineffectual.

In Missouri at least even essential businesses are required to implement social distancing measures for customers and employees.  Liquor stores are not high-density of the ones I've been in but I've seen others that are limiting the # of people in the store to keep people safe.

I'm interested what type of store you are so bent out of shape that's now closed and how would you have tried to limit social interactions to help control this.  Should Home Depot be open? 
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 02:38:37 PM
These shutdown decisions are being made with almost no reliable data. And I sympathize with that. To some extend, you have to plan for “the worst” of you don’t have a complete picture. But the worst also has to include plunging into another Great Depression.

I thought this was an interesting read.

Virtually All of the COVID-19 Numbers Are Bullshit (https://streetwiseprofessor.com/bullshit-numbers/)
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 10, 2020, 02:39:13 PM
We'll find out just how much Useful Idiot Nation has been assimilated into THE MAN in the next 6 to 12 months.   As both Google and Apple announced a partnership to track all the Typhoid and Non Typhoid Mary's out there.     Toss in Useful Idiot Techno Oligarch Hero (Useful Idiot TechBots used to hate the man) Bill Gates and his digital "Your Clean" certificate for good measure.



dax just so you know, it was amazing not having you here for a few weeks.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 02:42:40 PM
There are a lot of Pit’rs whose raison d'etre seems to be taking comments wildly out of context and or distorting them to make a snarky comment.

The point I was making with liquor stores, and numerous other businesses, is that the distinction between “essential vs non-essential” business seems highly arbitrary and unlikely to meaningfully slow the spread when you consider how many “essential businesses” remain open. I think it would have been smarter to identify and restrict certain businesses that are both high-risk for spread (due to close personal contact, food, etc.) and non-essential. Gyms, movie theaters, and restaurant dine-in service, for example, made sense. But closing down thousands of small businesses (just in Kansas alone) when the grocery stores, hardware stores, gas stations, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. remain open is both arbitrary and illogical. And liquor stores aren’t even “essential” in my opinion. My goodness, I think Rusty just compared liquor stores to methadone clinics! :lol:

No, snarky dumbasses, I’m not mad that those businesses are open, I’m pointing out that closing down other business when so many high-density, high-contact businesses stay open is arbitrary, illogical, and likely ineffectual.

In Missouri at least even essential businesses are required to implement social distancing measures for customers and employees.  Liquor stores are not high-density of the ones I've been in but I've seen others that are limiting the # of people in the store to keep people safe.

I'm interested what type of store you are so bent out of shape that's now closed and how would you have tried to limit social interactions to help control this.  Should Home Depot be open?

Well, let’s start with roughly 75% of any stores in any retail center that are currently closed. There are too many to name. Yes, I think Home Depot should be open (it is). I think most businesses should be open subject to basic social distancing measures (more cleaning, cue spacing, etc.) except for certain businesses that are both high-density / high contact and non-essential (that would be things like I mentioned: gyms, dine-in service, etc.)
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2020, 02:44:27 PM
There are a lot of Pit’rs whose raison d'etre seems to be taking comments wildly out of context and or distorting them to make a snarky comment.

The point I was making with liquor stores, and numerous other businesses, is that the distinction between “essential vs non-essential” business seems highly arbitrary and unlikely to meaningfully slow the spread when you consider how many “essential businesses” remain open. I think it would have been smarter to identify and restrict certain businesses that are both high-risk for spread (due to close personal contact, food, etc.) and non-essential. Gyms, movie theaters, and restaurant dine-in service, for example, made sense. But closing down thousands of small businesses (just in Kansas alone) when the grocery stores, hardware stores, gas stations, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. remain open is both arbitrary and illogical. And liquor stores aren’t even “essential” in my opinion. My goodness, I think Rusty just compared liquor stores to methadone clinics! :lol:

No, snarky dumbasses, I’m not mad that those businesses are open, I’m pointing out that closing down other business when so many high-density, high-contact businesses stay open is arbitrary, illogical, and likely ineffectual.

In Missouri at least even essential businesses are required to implement social distancing measures for customers and employees.  Liquor stores are not high-density of the ones I've been in but I've seen others that are limiting the # of people in the store to keep people safe.

I'm interested what type of store you are so bent out of shape that's now closed and how would you have tried to limit social interactions to help control this.  Should Home Depot be open?

Well, let’s start with roughly 75% of any stores in any retail center that are currently closed. There are too many to name. Yes, I think Home Depot should be open (it is). I think most businesses should be open subject to basic social distancing measures (more cleaning, cue spacing, etc.) except for certain businesses that are both high-density / high contact and non-essential (that would be things like I mentioned: gyms, dine-in service, etc.)
they are closed.  Good.  Agreed.  Nobody likes any of this.  Everybody wants every store open.  It sucks.  Let's move on.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2020, 02:46:41 PM
Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 02:52:11 PM
Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)

As I’ve said above, a couple times now, I want everything to be open except for businesses that are both non-essential and are high risk of spread due to high-density and high-contact. I listed examples. Are you asking me to list the stuff I’d personally like to be open? Why? This isn’t about me, at least directly. It’s about the economy at large, which affects all of us.

Ok so personally, I’m missing the gym and the barber, but I understand why those are closed. I think those are the only closures that directly, personally affect me. How about you?
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2020, 02:53:36 PM
Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)

As I’ve said above, a couple times now, I want everything to be open except for businesses that are both non-essential and are high risk of spread due to high-density and high-contact. I listed examples. Are you asking me to list the stuff I’d personally like to be open? Why? This isn’t about me, at least directly. It’s about the economy at large, which affects all of us.

Ok so personally, I’m missing the gym and the barber, but I understand why those are closed. I think those are the only closures that directly, personally affect me. How about you?

You don't miss the fellowship of attending Church services?
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2020, 02:54:57 PM
Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)

 I want everything to be open except for businesses that are both non-essential and are high risk of spread due to high-density and high-contact.

that's literally what is happening in every state. Move this whole thread to the common ground thread and quit trying to pin "the other side" on closing businesses.  Nobody wants this.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2020, 02:58:08 PM
Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)

As I’ve said above, a couple times now, I want everything to be open except for businesses that are both non-essential and are high risk of spread due to high-density and high-contact. I listed examples. Are you asking me to list the stuff I’d personally like to be open? Why? This isn’t about me, at least directly. It’s about the economy at large, which affects all of us.

Ok so personally, I’m missing the gym and the barber, but I understand why those are closed. I think those are the only closures that directly, personally affect me. How about you?

I'm trying to get you to say a few specifics, because frankly shitloads of stores are still open. I think it should be more restricted, but it's doing well enough I suppose.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 03:00:03 PM
Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)

As I’ve said above, a couple times now, I want everything to be open except for businesses that are both non-essential and are high risk of spread due to high-density and high-contact. I listed examples. Are you asking me to list the stuff I’d personally like to be open? Why? This isn’t about me, at least directly. It’s about the economy at large, which affects all of us.

Ok so personally, I’m missing the gym and the barber, but I understand why those are closed. I think those are the only closures that directly, personally affect me. How about you?

You don't miss the fellowship of attending Church services?

Sorry, I thought we were just talking businesses. There’s a lot of fellowship stuff I miss.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 03:02:09 PM
Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)

 I want everything to be open except for businesses that are both non-essential and are high risk of spread due to high-density and high-contact.

that's literally what is happening in every state. Move this whole thread to the common ground thread and quit trying to pin "the other side" on closing businesses.  Nobody wants this.

This simply is not true. I challenge you to visit any corner retail development and count the stores that are currently closed.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2020, 03:06:42 PM
This isn't some gotcha that you need to shy away from bud, I'm just asking what you think should be open but isn't? Are you able to actually specifically name one store?
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2020, 03:14:19 PM
We'll find out just how much Useful Idiot Nation has been assimilated into THE MAN in the next 6 to 12 months.   As both Google and Apple announced a partnership to track all the Typhoid and Non Typhoid Mary's out there.     Toss in Useful Idiot Techno Oligarch Hero (Useful Idiot TechBots used to hate the man) Bill Gates and his digital "Your Clean" certificate for good measure.



dax just so you know, it was amazing not having you here for a few weeks.

Oh skinny, you just liked the fact that you and your fellow useful idiots didn't have any dissenting opinions around.

Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: michigancat on April 10, 2020, 03:17:17 PM
Home Depot should absolutely be open. So should dry cleaners and laundromats. People need to maintain running water and have light bulbs and they also need clean clothes.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 04:31:58 PM
This isn't some gotcha that you need to shy away from bud, I'm just asking what you think should be open but isn't? Are you able to actually specifically name one store?

Really? Good lord. Ok just at a shopping area nearby.... Pier 1, jeweler (a couple), Barnes & Noble, Hallmark, about a dozen boutique and not-so-boutique clothing stores, pottery barn, a couple specialty shops... the place is a ghost town.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2020, 04:33:02 PM
Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)

 I want everything to be open except for businesses that are both non-essential and are high risk of spread due to high-density and high-contact.

that's literally what is happening in every state. Move this whole thread to the common ground thread and quit trying to pin "the other side" on closing businesses.  Nobody wants this.

This simply is not true. I challenge you to visit any corner retail development and count the stores that are currently closed.

You agreed non essential stores should be closed right now, so da duq you trying to say here? Yeah places are closed. We all agreed it sucks
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2020, 04:34:28 PM
Home Depot should absolutely be open. So should dry cleaners and laundromats. People need to maintain running water and have light bulbs and they also need clean clothes.

Agreed. There is discussion about should they be limited to essential stuff for sale but that seems like a administrative nightmare
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 04:35:09 PM
Kdub, I think it's weird that you keep bitching about what is open instead of just telling us what you want open (besides gathering spots like ski resorts obv)

 I want everything to be open except for businesses that are both non-essential and are high risk of spread due to high-density and high-contact.

that's literally what is happening in every state. Move this whole thread to the common ground thread and quit trying to pin "the other side" on closing businesses.  Nobody wants this.

This simply is not true. I challenge you to visit any corner retail development and count the stores that are currently closed.

You agreed non essential stores should be closed right now, so da duq you trying to say here? Yeah places are closed. We all agreed it sucks

You should read more closely. I didn’t say that.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2020, 04:39:04 PM
This isn't some gotcha that you need to shy away from bud, I'm just asking what you think should be open but isn't? Are you able to actually specifically name one store?

Really? Good lord. Ok just at a shopping area nearby.... Pier 1, jeweler (a couple), Barnes & Noble, Hallmark, about a dozen boutique and not-so-boutique clothing stores, pottery barn, a couple specialty shops... the place is a ghost town.

Thanks, I was just trying to get your frame of mind. I don't think any of that needs to be open, except possibly clothing stores.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2020, 04:42:09 PM
To get this thread back on track

Not the US but a global hero

https://twitter.com/silkdynastystx/status/1248672595181891584
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: michigancat on April 10, 2020, 04:45:13 PM
To get this thread back on track

Not the US but a global hero

https://twitter.com/silkdynastystx/status/1248672595181891584

:D
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 05:00:12 PM
This isn't some gotcha that you need to shy away from bud, I'm just asking what you think should be open but isn't? Are you able to actually specifically name one store?

Really? Good lord. Ok just at a shopping area nearby.... Pier 1, jeweler (a couple), Barnes & Noble, Hallmark, about a dozen boutique and not-so-boutique clothing stores, pottery barn, a couple specialty shops... the place is a ghost town.

Thanks, I was just trying to get your frame of mind. I don't think any of that needs to be open, except possibly clothing stores.

I don’t think any of that needs to be open, either. But the business owners and their customers might disagree. I believe that most ”non-essential” businesses should not be shut down. I think the shutdown is overly broad and economically harmful.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 05:02:12 PM
To get this thread back on track

Not the US but a global hero

https://twitter.com/silkdynastystx/status/1248672595181891584

:D

That’s amazing. Thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 08:00:29 PM
 https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/10/pbss_alcindor_vs_black_surgeon_general_people_are_offended_you_told_blacks_to_avoid_alcohol_and_drugs.html (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/10/pbss_alcindor_vs_black_surgeon_general_people_are_offended_you_told_blacks_to_avoid_alcohol_and_drugs.html)

I think this belongs here. Now our black surgeon general’s a racist. Well played, media. Well played.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2020, 08:26:57 PM
Listening live it sounded more dorky than racist
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 08:55:10 PM
Michigan Gov made quite a name for herself among liberals by challenging Trump on hydroxychloroquine, going so far as issuing a letter (https://www.michigan.gov/documents/lara/Reminder_of_Appropriate_Prescribing_and_Dispensing_3-24-2020_684869_7.pdf) threatening doctor’s medical licenses for prescribing it and asking pharmacists to report doctors. This bravery launched her onto the short-list for Woman VP.

Now she’s... warming to the drug. www.foxnews.com/politics/michigan-reverses-course-on-trump-touted-coronavirus-drugs.amp (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/michigan-reverses-course-on-trump-touted-coronavirus-drugs.amp)

Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: catastrophe on April 10, 2020, 09:11:46 PM
If you read beyond the first three paragraphs, I think you'll see she's not really taking an inconsistent position.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2020, 09:13:16 PM
Home Depot should absolutely be open. So should dry cleaners and laundromats. People need to maintain running water and have light bulbs and they also need clean clothes.

Sorry I overlooked this, but Rusty values clean clothes over saving lives. How dare you, Rusty?! Damn I got that glowy feeling of virtue all over....
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: LickNeckey on April 11, 2020, 09:29:23 AM
In Kansas at least what businesses have been forced to close ther doors?

(not suggesting there aren't any just ignorant)

I know many have made the business decision to close shop but really who "can't" be open.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: LickNeckey on April 12, 2020, 12:11:15 AM
Soooo...
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: LickNeckey on April 12, 2020, 03:53:32 PM
There are a lot of Pit’rs whose raison d'etre seems to be taking comments wildly out of context and or distorting them to make a snarky comment.

The point I was making with liquor stores, and numerous other businesses, is that the distinction between “essential vs non-essential” business seems highly arbitrary and unlikely to meaningfully slow the spread when you consider how many “essential businesses” remain open. I think it would have been smarter to identify and restrict certain businesses that are both high-risk for spread (due to close personal contact, food, etc.) and non-essential. Gyms, movie theaters, and restaurant dine-in service, for example, made sense. But closing down thousands of small businesses (just in Kansas alone) when the grocery stores, hardware stores, gas stations, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. remain open is both arbitrary and illogical. And liquor stores aren’t even “essential” in my opinion. My goodness, I think Rusty just compared liquor stores to methadone clinics! :lol:

No, snarky dumbasses, I’m not mad that those businesses are open, I’m pointing out that closing down other business when so many high-density, high-contact businesses stay open is arbitrary, illogical, and likely ineffectual.

which ones?
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 12, 2020, 09:07:22 PM
There are a lot of Pit’rs whose raison d'etre seems to be taking comments wildly out of context and or distorting them to make a snarky comment.

The point I was making with liquor stores, and numerous other businesses, is that the distinction between “essential vs non-essential” business seems highly arbitrary and unlikely to meaningfully slow the spread when you consider how many “essential businesses” remain open. I think it would have been smarter to identify and restrict certain businesses that are both high-risk for spread (due to close personal contact, food, etc.) and non-essential. Gyms, movie theaters, and restaurant dine-in service, for example, made sense. But closing down thousands of small businesses (just in Kansas alone) when the grocery stores, hardware stores, gas stations, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. remain open is both arbitrary and illogical. And liquor stores aren’t even “essential” in my opinion. My goodness, I think Rusty just compared liquor stores to methadone clinics! :lol:

No, snarky dumbasses, I’m not mad that those businesses are open, I’m pointing out that closing down other business when so many high-density, high-contact businesses stay open is arbitrary, illogical, and likely ineffectual.

which ones?

I already listed over a dozen in one random retail development I passed on the way home. If you want, like, a comprehensive list, nah I'm not doing that.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 12, 2020, 09:08:55 PM
Speaking of the cray-cray Michigan Gov.... new, arbitrary, nonsensical in-store restrictions have been imposed.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/10/whitmer-stay-home-michigan-lottery/5129316002/ (https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/10/whitmer-stay-home-michigan-lottery/5129316002/)

She's gonna perfect for Biden.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2020, 09:23:00 PM
She should have to explain the garden store ban but none of the rest seems crazy
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2020, 10:19:45 PM
Speaking of the cray-cray Michigan Gov.... new, arbitrary, nonsensical in-store restrictions have been imposed.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/10/whitmer-stay-home-michigan-lottery/5129316002/ (https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/10/whitmer-stay-home-michigan-lottery/5129316002/)

She's gonna perfect for Biden.

Gonna be scary having her being the stealth president, as Jill directs QuidProJoe through his daily routine.



Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: LickNeckey on April 12, 2020, 10:57:00 PM
https://www.sedgwickcounty.org/covid-19/stay-at-home-order/faqs-for-stay-at-home-order/

Sorry for hassling you Dub I had not read this.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: MakeItRain on April 12, 2020, 11:04:20 PM
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/10/pbss_alcindor_vs_black_surgeon_general_people_are_offended_you_told_blacks_to_avoid_alcohol_and_drugs.html (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/10/pbss_alcindor_vs_black_surgeon_general_people_are_offended_you_told_blacks_to_avoid_alcohol_and_drugs.html)

I think this belongs here. Now our black surgeon general’s a racist. Well played, media. Well played.

No statement on Jerome either way, but black people can definitely be racist against black people.
Title: Re: ITT: Libs and Closet Fascists (BIRM) Losing Their F’ing Minds Over Covid-19
Post by: star seed 7 on April 14, 2020, 01:59:55 PM
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