Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 04, 2020, 01:48:22 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 04, 2020, 01:59:09 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 04, 2020, 02:06:15 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2020, 02:10:05 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 04, 2020, 02:11:52 PM
I voted no and I go into my office everyday.
I'm safe for now, but I'll be damned if I act smug about it. Ask not for whom the bell tolls...
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 04, 2020, 02:12:29 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2020, 02:22:35 PM
I voted no and I go into my office everyday.
I'm safe for now, but I'll be damned if I act smug about it. Ask not for whom the bell tolls...
Ironically enough, I'm guessing the no vote is the only person smug about any of this. If you're safely employed with no fear of missing a paycheck at all, you almost certainly work in a place where you are at a high risk of covid exposure.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2020, 02:24:36 PM
Getting paid by other people’s tax dollars sounds like the American dream.
Your anger is odd and misplaced. This is better than taking personal shots at people though.
Post by: nicname on April 04, 2020, 02:26:02 PM
Stayed home for a week. Am now out delivering food to people on gig apps so my dad (62-yo heart attack survivor, going thru expensive, brutal divorce) doesn't have to work. Making accusatory assumptions is generally bad.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 04, 2020, 02:26:08 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 04, 2020, 02:29:23 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2020, 02:29:42 PM
There’s lots of financial people/lawyers on this troll blog. They’re 100% working from home and cashing checks during this time. I’m not mad, I’m happy for them, but the “no’s” aren’t essential people working at a grocery store right now here.You don't know what everyone's going through. Not everyone speaks as freely about their personal lives as you.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 04, 2020, 02:30:07 PM
I’m not trying to be a dick. My legit mental health is mumped right now and I’m annoyed by the people who make fun of the “but the economy” people. I worked really hard to get to the salary I had, like living at home with Mom and Dad and paying off loans in my 20’s hard and working two jobs in the process. It was all wiped away. I had my first born in September. His dad is now an unemployed asshat, with no future in sight.Getting paid by other people’s tax dollars sounds like the American dream.
Your anger is odd and misplaced. This is better than taking personal shots at people though.
Post by: catastrophe on April 04, 2020, 02:31:15 PM
There’s lots of financial people/lawyers on this troll blog. They’re 100% working from home and cashing checks during this time. I’m not mad, I’m happy for them, but the “no’s” aren’t essential people working at a grocery store right now here.
https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/biglaw-pay-cuts-and-layoffs-are-likely-to-multiply-experts-say-which-firms-are-doing-it
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2020, 02:31:20 PM
Post by: nicname on April 04, 2020, 02:31:33 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2020, 02:33:03 PM
did you just call your dad an asshat?He called himself one. Wacky, don't be so hard on yourself.
Post by: nicname on April 04, 2020, 02:35:26 PM
did you just call your dad an asshat?He called himself one. Wacky, don't be so hard on yourself.
Misread. Yeah, wacky you busted your ass. Your good.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2020, 02:37:10 PM
I’m not trying to be a dick. My legit mental health is mumped right now and I’m annoyed by the people who make fun of the “but the economy” people. I worked really hard to get to the salary I had, like living at home with Mom and Dad and paying off loans in my 20’s hard and working two jobs in the process. It was all wiped away. I had my first born in September. His dad is now an unemployed asshat, with no future in sight.Getting paid by other people’s tax dollars sounds like the American dream.
Your anger is odd and misplaced. This is better than taking personal shots at people though.
No one is making fun of the "but the economy" people. If anyone is being made fun of, it's the people who are trying to make clout off of people like you who are hurting. At this point anyone who won't acknowledge that a short term shutdown is better for the economy than potentially having to deal with the death of millions of healthy people out of the workforce is not acting in bad faith. If anyone, at this point is pitching that a shutdown isn't necessary to save lives and the economy, they should be mocked. Even the president has moved off of that.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 04, 2020, 02:37:35 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 04, 2020, 02:41:16 PM
Keep your head up and ride this out.
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2020, 02:41:56 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 04, 2020, 02:42:37 PM
Thanks, guys. I’ve been holding this crap in the last 3 weeks. It’s tough. I appreciate the kindness.
As a resident lawyer, I can tell you that I am very concerned about my job. We are very tied into the broader economy. When businesses are hurting, they don't want to take on new engagements or pay existing bills. I am very replaceable.
I'm sorry you're going through a rough time. You're not alone. Nearly everyone is feeling anxiety right now, so feel free to vent.
Post by: OB_Won on April 04, 2020, 02:43:31 PM
And not everyone is on here boasting about making 6 figures and going on vacations, and blah blah blah. You literally have a term for bragging named after you. I understand your anger and fear, Wac. I've been there before, and very well could be again soon. But please don't act like you weren't looking down on others while you had your job. You also spent half your work day on a blog. Please don't act like you were this hard working day laborer who just can't catch a break.There’s lots of financial people/lawyers on this troll blog. They’re 100% working from home and cashing checks during this time. I’m not mad, I’m happy for them, but the “no’s” aren’t essential people working at a grocery store right now here.You don't know what everyone's going through. Not everyone speaks as freely about their personal lives as you.
Post by: chum1 on April 04, 2020, 02:49:06 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 04, 2020, 02:50:01 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 04, 2020, 02:59:01 PM
Thanks, guys. OB, I’ve significantly decreased my time on this blog the last few years. I was leading my company in Doctors hired in the new year so far and that’s literally what I would get up for everyday, the competition of making the company money. Yes, I’ve tried to act like a boss and act big time on here to be “one of the guys” at times. Because from the sounds of it, everyone is pretty successful on here. I was just finally proud of finding something I was great at. I’m sorry if you took #fanningbragging as serious. I didn’t see the ocean until I was 19 and I had never been to another country minus Mexico/Canada until my 30’s. I’m very thankful for every amazing experience I get these days.
I've still never been to Canada. Thanks for rubbing it in, bad person.
Post by: treysolid on April 04, 2020, 03:00:09 PM
I'm a scientist at a biotech start-up. I don't think anyone at my company is in danger of being laid off because of the pandemic, but we float on VC money, and VCs are freaking out right now bc their warchests ARE directly tied to market performance.
Post by: OB_Won on April 04, 2020, 03:06:21 PM
Thanks, guys. OB, I’ve significantly decreased my time on this blog the last few years. I was leading my company in Doctors hired in the new year so far and that’s literally what I would get up for everyday, the competition of making the company money. Yes, I’ve tried to act like a boss and act big time on here to be “one of the guys” at times. Because from the sounds of it, everyone is pretty successful on here. I was just finally proud of finding something I was great at. I’m sorry if you took #fanningbragging as serious. I didn’t see the ocean until I was 19 and I had never been to another country minus Mexico/Canada until my 30’s. I’m very thankful for every amazing experience I get these days.Fair enough. I understand this sucks. I was laid off in 2008 when the economy crap the bed. I went back to school, got a new degree, and started over. It sucks, but it will turn around again some day. For the record, I voted "kinda" as a bunch in my office got laid off and I took a 10% pay cut. You're a grinder and personable. You'll be ok. And like somebody said, your son won't care. They just want love and attention for quite a few years. It isn't until later that they start caring about "stuff". I feel bad for everybody that lost their job, I honestly do. It's a gut punch and confidence shaker like nothing I've ever experienced before. I also know that I very well may be right back there in it in the next few weeks/months. But it will get better again.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 04, 2020, 03:09:55 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on April 04, 2020, 03:10:34 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on April 04, 2020, 03:11:37 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2020, 03:31:26 PM
Thanks, guys. I’ve been holding this crap in the last 3 weeks. It’s tough. I appreciate the kindness.
As a resident lawyer, I can tell you that I am very concerned about my job. We are very tied into the broader economy. When businesses are hurting, they don't want to take on new engagements or pay existing bills. I am very replaceable.
I'm sorry you're going through a rough time. You're not alone. Nearly everyone is feeling anxiety right now, so feel free to vent.
Yeah I think everyone that isn't an ICU nurse or a grocery store clerk or UPS driver is worried about their jobs or at least a significant income hit.
Post by: Katpappy on April 04, 2020, 03:31:29 PM
Getting paid by other people’s tax dollars sounds like the American dream.
So now you're putting down billionaires. :confused:
Post by: Spracne on April 04, 2020, 03:35:24 PM
Thanks, guys. I’ve been holding this crap in the last 3 weeks. It’s tough. I appreciate the kindness.
As a resident lawyer, I can tell you that I am very concerned about my job. We are very tied into the broader economy. When businesses are hurting, they don't want to take on new engagements or pay existing bills. I am very replaceable.
I'm sorry you're going through a rough time. You're not alone. Nearly everyone is feeling anxiety right now, so feel free to vent.
Yeah I think everyone that isn't an ICU nurse or a grocery store clerk or UPS driver is worried about their jobs or at least a significant income hit.
Honestly, if my employer sent out an e-mail on Monday announcing a temporary 30% pay cut (or whatever), I'd be relieved.
Post by: nicname on April 04, 2020, 03:50:38 PM
The only "but the economy" people that deserve to be ridiculed are the ones showing callous disregard for the health and safety of others and those who are still employed but just unhappy that now their precious little 401ks took a hit or that their ski trips were canceled.
I'm a scientist at a biotech start-up. I don't think anyone at my company is in danger of being laid off because of the pandemic, but we float on VC money, and VCs are freaking out right now bc their warchests ARE directly tied to market performance.
:clap:
Post by: Katpappy on April 04, 2020, 03:52:04 PM
Thanks, guys. OB, I’ve significantly decreased my time on this blog the last few years. I was leading my company in Doctors hired in the new year so far and that’s literally what I would get up for everyday, the competition of making the company money. Yes, I’ve tried to act like a boss and act big time on here to be “one of the guys” at times. Because from the sounds of it, everyone is pretty successful on here. I was just finally proud of finding something I was great at. I’m sorry if you took #fanningbragging as serious. I didn’t see the ocean until I was 19 and I had never been to another country minus Mexico/Canada until my 30’s. I’m very thankful for every amazing experience I get these days.
I've still never been to Canada. Thanks for rubbing it in, bad person.
Hey I'll dbl, maybe triple that cause I'll only been in America. OK, I'll admit I'll been to MO.
Post by: Justwin on April 04, 2020, 04:02:38 PM
Two other sources of income I have, though, have been eliminated or are highly uncertain. I'm losing a few thousand dollars on one of them. For another source of income, I have to commit to spending $15,000 now for something at the end of June. If I'm not willing to commit $15,000 now, I likely will lose out on the opportunity to earn $10,000 - $15,000 (this is net of the $15,000 commitment now).
I remember talking to a guy at a neighborhood get together around New Year's. He was laid off from his job about 5 years ago. He said at the time he felt like the world was crashing down around him. However, in hindsight, it was the best thing that ever happened to him.
I'm not sure how religious you are, but there's a plan at work. It's not always easy to see the goal, but one is there.
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 04, 2020, 04:18:04 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 28, 2020, 04:34:07 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 28, 2020, 04:43:40 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 28, 2020, 05:07:17 PM
Telecom is essential. Get to work from home, nothing has changed. Still expected to hit forecast and quota.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 28, 2020, 05:22:33 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 28, 2020, 07:16:51 PM
I didn't take the poll because I think it's kind of crass. My biz is fine now and actually catching up on a huge backlog of more "paper" work that had a large number of us buried and hiring associates like crazy. We stopped hiring but didn't lay off a single employee even though there are some we probably would have parted ways with due to performance issues. we have kept 120 folks in 3 states.
Hopefully when the lights are turned back on we will be even better equipped to serve our clients due to clearing backlog.
I hope the best for all of us and the absolute most accurate thing said ITT is your baby dgaf about what you are doing right now and probably is bonding a bit more than would have had chance to. Small blessings
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2020, 07:32:04 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 28, 2020, 08:09:12 PM
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Post by: Kat Kid on April 28, 2020, 08:29:43 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2020, 10:44:57 AM
Post by: 8manpick on April 29, 2020, 11:02:18 AM
Post by: Justwin on April 29, 2020, 04:06:50 PM
I am starting to get pretty concerned about Kansas State.
Being pretty concerned about Kansas State would not be an overreaction to say the least.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2020, 04:43:43 PM
I am starting to get pretty concerned about Kansas State.
Being pretty concerned about Kansas State would not be an overreaction to say the least.
:sdeek:
Post by: ChiComCat on April 29, 2020, 04:59:26 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on April 29, 2020, 05:36:20 PM
Hotel industry is absolutely mumped right now but for some reason, my company keeps paying me and has only done paycuts. I expect that to change pretty soon.
95% of hospitality people I know are furloughed and 4% are at about 20% of their pay. You are truly the 1%
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 29, 2020, 10:00:33 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 29, 2020, 10:06:51 PM
Post by: bucket on April 29, 2020, 10:18:52 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 30, 2020, 03:12:26 AM
Post by: bucket on April 30, 2020, 09:20:08 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on April 30, 2020, 09:22:40 AM
No, and if anything, power plants seem to be even busier/require more attention than ever, for somewhat obvious reasons.
What obvious reasons are power plants busier?
Post by: bucket on April 30, 2020, 09:46:49 AM
No, and if anything, power plants seem to be even busier/require more attention than ever, for somewhat obvious reasons.
What obvious reasons are power plants busier?
Increased baking
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on April 30, 2020, 09:52:02 AM
No, and if anything, power plants seem to be even busier/require more attention than ever, for somewhat obvious reasons.
What obvious reasons are power plants busier?
Increased baking
Literally, figuratively or a combination of both?
:bigtoke:
Post by: Phil Titola on April 30, 2020, 09:52:17 AM
No, and if anything, power plants seem to be even busier/require more attention than ever, for somewhat obvious reasons.
What obvious reasons are power plants busier?
Increased baking
is that for real?
Post by: bucket on April 30, 2020, 10:07:47 AM
No, and if anything, power plants seem to be even busier/require more attention than ever, for somewhat obvious reasons.
What obvious reasons are power plants busier?
Increased baking
is that for real?
No, it was a funny
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 30, 2020, 10:16:49 AM
I am starting to get pretty concerned about Kansas State.
Howso? What do you think the layoff/cancellation/whatever situation will unfold? What are the rumors or possibilities being discussed? Need reports from boots on the ground/ITK types.
Post by: Kat Kid on April 30, 2020, 10:19:06 AM
I am starting to get pretty concerned about Kansas State.
Howso? What do you think the layoff/cancellation/whatever situation will unfold? What are the rumors or possibilities being discussed? Need reports from boots on the ground/ITK types.
I am not very confident about the fall semester which would make all of these cuts much worse.
https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=64673 (https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=64673)
Post by: Phil Titola on April 30, 2020, 10:25:23 AM
No, and if anything, power plants seem to be even busier/require more attention than ever, for somewhat obvious reasons.
What obvious reasons are power plants busier?
Increased baking
is that for real?
No, it was a funny
:lol:
Post by: bucket on April 30, 2020, 10:29:09 AM
I am starting to get pretty concerned about Kansas State.
Howso? What do you think the layoff/cancellation/whatever situation will unfold? What are the rumors or possibilities being discussed? Need reports from boots on the ground/ITK types.
I am not very confident about the fall semester which would make all of these cuts much worse.
https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=64673 (https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=64673)
The Brownback years were horrible for their finances so they were already in a pretty tough position when this hit.
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 01, 2020, 08:19:01 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on May 01, 2020, 08:25:28 AM
Hotel industry is absolutely mumped right now but for some reason, my company keeps paying me and has only done paycuts. I expect that to change pretty soon.
95% of hospitality people I know are furloughed and 4% are at about 20% of their pay. You are truly the 1%
I have a more corporate position and am with a company that franchises far more than manages properties. It has saved a lot of people in our company for the time being. Pretty much all my friends/former coworkers at properties are gone.
Post by: Phil Titola on May 01, 2020, 09:01:37 AM
Hotel industry is absolutely mumped right now but for some reason, my company keeps paying me and has only done paycuts. I expect that to change pretty soon.
95% of hospitality people I know are furloughed and 4% are at about 20% of their pay. You are truly the 1%
I have a more corporate position and am with a company that franchises far more than manages properties. It has saved a lot of people in our company for the time being. Pretty much all my friends/former coworkers at properties are gone.
I'm pretty pessimistic about the rebound of hospitality. I hope those I know who are mostly in sales can get back in late summer and start the rebound.
Post by: waks on May 01, 2020, 10:43:27 AM
I am starting to get pretty concerned about Kansas State.Hearing ten week furloughs for people. Health insurance covered for one month. Something like a $30 million cut.
Post by: ChiComCat on May 01, 2020, 10:49:07 AM
Hotel industry is absolutely mumped right now but for some reason, my company keeps paying me and has only done paycuts. I expect that to change pretty soon.
95% of hospitality people I know are furloughed and 4% are at about 20% of their pay. You are truly the 1%
I have a more corporate position and am with a company that franchises far more than manages properties. It has saved a lot of people in our company for the time being. Pretty much all my friends/former coworkers at properties are gone.
I'm pretty pessimistic about the rebound of hospitality. I hope those I know who are mostly in sales can get back in late summer and start the rebound.
It's going to be challenging for sure. I know bigger convention destinations, Vegas in particular, are worried that they will never fully recover to what they were. The thought is that even the biggest conventions will be 20% smaller. Some people aren't going to feel comfortable travelling for a long time. A lot of companies aren't going to have the same budgets to put people on the road once it's safe again and some are figuring out that they can do some of the same things remotely.
China hotel numbers came back to about 70% of where they were after 3 months, which would put us on track for mid-June if we discount a billion other variables.
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 01, 2020, 10:53:01 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 01, 2020, 11:04:46 AM
Hotel industry is absolutely mumped right now but for some reason, my company keeps paying me and has only done paycuts. I expect that to change pretty soon.
95% of hospitality people I know are furloughed and 4% are at about 20% of their pay. You are truly the 1%
I have a more corporate position and am with a company that franchises far more than manages properties. It has saved a lot of people in our company for the time being. Pretty much all my friends/former coworkers at properties are gone.
I'm pretty pessimistic about the rebound of hospitality. I hope those I know who are mostly in sales can get back in late summer and start the rebound.
It's going to be challenging for sure. I know bigger convention destinations, Vegas in particular, are worried that they will never fully recover to what they were. The thought is that even the biggest conventions will be 20% smaller. Some people aren't going to feel comfortable travelling for a long time. A lot of companies aren't going to have the same budgets to put people on the road once it's safe again and some are figuring out that they can do some of the same things remotely.
China hotel numbers came back to about 70% of where they were after 3 months, which would put us on track for mid-June if we discount a billion other variables.
Yeah, this.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 01, 2020, 11:26:06 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 01, 2020, 11:45:54 AM
I bet if you redid the poll now, you'd get different answers. My corporate peeps have almost all had temp salary reductions and/or layoffs to other workers. The service industry people I know were all doing it as a second job for spending money, so while they've been affected they still have income enough to get by.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 01, 2020, 11:48:47 AM
I'm really happy for people that they haven't been affected, but this poll still blows my mind. Maybe if a more favorable poster started this thread, the numbers would be different, not sure. 35 Million have filed for unemployment so far. I know we have some successful sales guys on this troll blog too and you can't tell me people are buying right now. Anyways, i'm happy many of you have strong employers. Maybe it's a industry thing too. K-State is a huge engineering school as well.
I am definitely worried about the short to medium term but nothing has happened yet. It definitely has a far reach, but a lot of pain hasn't hit yet. You were definitely on the front lines, but hopefully you are at the front of the line back.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 01, 2020, 11:51:29 AM
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 01, 2020, 12:10:01 PM
I'm really happy for people that they haven't been affected, but this poll still blows my mind. Maybe if a more favorable poster started this thread, the numbers would be different, not sure. 35 Million have filed for unemployment so far. I know we have some successful sales guys on this troll blog too and you can't tell me people are buying right now. Anyways, i'm happy many of you have strong employers. Maybe it's a industry thing too. K-State is a huge engineering school as well.idk, the poll is kind of worded weird. I have no idea if my company has lost massive revenue or not. They aren't acting like it. Its business as usual for me other than working from home which I think is the cats ass.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 01, 2020, 12:16:20 PM
Post by: 8manpick on May 01, 2020, 12:17:20 PM
Not trolling at all, my company just had it's best sales month in two years, construction seems unstoppable right now. I anticipated that people would start to pull back projects but it's been very minimal thus far.
I bet if you redid the poll now, you'd get different answers. My corporate peeps have almost all had temp salary reductions and/or layoffs to other workers. The service industry people I know were all doing it as a second job for spending money, so while they've been affected they still have income enough to get by.
Construction lags architecture. Architecture has had a really bad couple of months for new billings. We (eng.) haven't slowed down much yet, but I'm not optimistic.
Post by: michigancat on May 01, 2020, 12:20:08 PM
Not trolling at all, my company just had it's best sales month in two years, construction seems unstoppable right now. I anticipated that people would start to pull back projects but it's been very minimal thus far.
I bet if you redid the poll now, you'd get different answers. My corporate peeps have almost all had temp salary reductions and/or layoffs to other workers. The service industry people I know were all doing it as a second job for spending money, so while they've been affected they still have income enough to get by.
Construction lags architecture. Architecture has had a really bad couple of months for new billings. We (eng.) haven't slowed down much yet, but I'm not optimistic.
A good friend is a large-scale construction scheduler and he's had jobs cancelled. I think office construction will get hit hard because the workplace will change so much and it isn't clear what it will be like.
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 01, 2020, 12:20:26 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 01, 2020, 12:32:15 PM
Hotel industry is absolutely mumped right now but for some reason, my company keeps paying me and has only done paycuts. I expect that to change pretty soon.
95% of hospitality people I know are furloughed and 4% are at about 20% of their pay. You are truly the 1%
I have a more corporate position and am with a company that franchises far more than manages properties. It has saved a lot of people in our company for the time being. Pretty much all my friends/former coworkers at properties are gone.
I'm pretty pessimistic about the rebound of hospitality. I hope those I know who are mostly in sales can get back in late summer and start the rebound.
It's going to be challenging for sure. I know bigger convention destinations, Vegas in particular, are worried that they will never fully recover to what they were. The thought is that even the biggest conventions will be 20% smaller. Some people aren't going to feel comfortable travelling for a long time. A lot of companies aren't going to have the same budgets to put people on the road once it's safe again and some are figuring out that they can do some of the same things remotely.
China hotel numbers came back to about 70% of where they were after 3 months, which would put us on track for mid-June if we discount a billion other variables.
Yeah, this.
I've had the opposite - there's a shitload that we just can't do remotely, or at least it takes twice as long.
Post by: steve dave on May 01, 2020, 12:41:10 PM
I'm really happy for people that they haven't been affected, but this poll still blows my mind. Maybe if a more favorable poster started this thread, the numbers would be different, not sure. 35 Million have filed for unemployment so far. I know we have some successful sales guys on this troll blog too and you can't tell me people are buying right now. Anyways, i'm happy many of you have strong employers. Maybe it's a industry thing too. K-State is a huge engineering school as well.
I think if you posted a new poll today the results would be a lot different. A lot of furloughs are just now being announced, and obviously a lot were done after your poll started and people responded.
Post by: michigancat on May 01, 2020, 12:42:02 PM
I'm really happy for people that they haven't been affected, but this poll still blows my mind. Maybe if a more favorable poster started this thread, the numbers would be different, not sure. 35 Million have filed for unemployment so far. I know we have some successful sales guys on this troll blog too and you can't tell me people are buying right now. Anyways, i'm happy many of you have strong employers. Maybe it's a industry thing too. K-State is a huge engineering school as well.
I think if you posted a new poll today the results would be a lot different. A lot of furloughs are just now being announced, and obviously a lot were done after your poll started and people responded.
yep. I was even surprised at the results when I voted way back when.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 01, 2020, 12:46:47 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 01, 2020, 12:51:02 PM
Not trolling at all, my company just had it's best sales month in two years, construction seems unstoppable right now. I anticipated that people would start to pull back projects but it's been very minimal thus far.
I bet if you redid the poll now, you'd get different answers. My corporate peeps have almost all had temp salary reductions and/or layoffs to other workers. The service industry people I know were all doing it as a second job for spending money, so while they've been affected they still have income enough to get by.
Construction lags architecture. Architecture has had a really bad couple of months for new billings. We (eng.) haven't slowed down much yet, but I'm not optimistic.
Definitely, we are good for the next 12 months just for existing projects but I'm moderately concerned about what happens if the economy doesn't start to rebound in a few months.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on May 01, 2020, 01:07:29 PM
No, and if anything, power plants seem to be even busier/require more attention than ever, for somewhat obvious reasons.
Have you seen this yet: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-securing-united-states-bulk-power-system/
How does this effect what you do?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 01, 2020, 01:39:24 PM
I will be happy to discuss how Kansas State University could be uniquely positioned to thrive in a post Covid 19 world or at least in a Post Covid 19 substantial morbidity world.
I can lay it out college by college.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 01, 2020, 01:41:56 PM
Right now my company is breaking all time bandwidth utilization records.
I will be happy to discuss how Kansas State University could be uniquely positioned to thrive in a post Covid 19 world or at least in a Post Covid 19 substantial morbidity world.
I can lay it out college by college.
Do it.
Post by: Purple Derpathy on May 01, 2020, 02:28:33 PM
All bonuses have been eliminated for the year. I never relied upon the annual bonus to maintain my current standard of living, but a large number of folks do as it makes up anywhere from 10-30% of total comp for the majority of people. Normal stock payouts are based on shares and not value so another hit there. Have been told to expect no/minimal salary increase for 2021.
No layoffs/furloughs yet, but rumors are those are coming but will start with voluntary severance packages.
Post by: Justwin on May 01, 2020, 03:43:14 PM
I am starting to get pretty concerned about Kansas State.Hearing ten week furloughs for people. Health insurance covered for one month. Something like a $30 million cut.
For which people at K-State?
Post by: wetwillie on May 01, 2020, 04:08:06 PM
Right now my company is breaking all time bandwidth utilization records.
I will be happy to discuss how Kansas State University could be uniquely positioned to thrive in a post Covid 19 world or at least in a Post Covid 19 substantial morbidity world.
I can lay it out college by college.
Type it up but instead of hitting send copy and paste in an email to whoever the highest ranking official at KSU you feel is competent. I’m guessing it won’t be the UP.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 01, 2020, 09:31:16 PM
I'm really happy for people that they haven't been affected, but this poll still blows my mind. Maybe if a more favorable poster started this thread, the numbers would be different, not sure. 35 Million have filed for unemployment so far. I know we have some successful sales guys on this troll blog too and you can't tell me people are buying right now. Anyways, i'm happy many of you have strong employers. Maybe it's a industry thing too. K-State is a huge engineering school as well.idk, the poll is kind of worded weird. I have no idea if my company has lost massive revenue or not. They aren't acting like it. Its business as usual for me other than working from home which I think is the cats ass.
is....is this a good or bad thing?
Post by: steve dave on May 01, 2020, 10:20:54 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on May 01, 2020, 11:25:55 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on May 02, 2020, 09:07:12 AM
Hotel industry is absolutely mumped right now but for some reason, my company keeps paying me and has only done paycuts. I expect that to change pretty soon.
95% of hospitality people I know are furloughed and 4% are at about 20% of their pay. You are truly the 1%
I have a more corporate position and am with a company that franchises far more than manages properties. It has saved a lot of people in our company for the time being. Pretty much all my friends/former coworkers at properties are gone.
I'm pretty pessimistic about the rebound of hospitality. I hope those I know who are mostly in sales can get back in late summer and start the rebound.
It's going to be challenging for sure. I know bigger convention destinations, Vegas in particular, are worried that they will never fully recover to what they were. The thought is that even the biggest conventions will be 20% smaller. Some people aren't going to feel comfortable travelling for a long time. A lot of companies aren't going to have the same budgets to put people on the road once it's safe again and some are figuring out that they can do some of the same things remotely.
China hotel numbers came back to about 70% of where they were after 3 months, which would put us on track for mid-June if we discount a billion other variables.
Yeah, this.
This exact thing was said after 9/11. In-person conferences aren't going away. 2020 is basically shot though
Post by: steve dave on May 02, 2020, 12:10:59 PM
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 02, 2020, 01:38:50 PM
Hotel industry is absolutely mumped right now but for some reason, my company keeps paying me and has only done paycuts. I expect that to change pretty soon.
95% of hospitality people I know are furloughed and 4% are at about 20% of their pay. You are truly the 1%
I have a more corporate position and am with a company that franchises far more than manages properties. It has saved a lot of people in our company for the time being. Pretty much all my friends/former coworkers at properties are gone.
I'm pretty pessimistic about the rebound of hospitality. I hope those I know who are mostly in sales can get back in late summer and start the rebound.
It's going to be challenging for sure. I know bigger convention destinations, Vegas in particular, are worried that they will never fully recover to what they were. The thought is that even the biggest conventions will be 20% smaller. Some people aren't going to feel comfortable travelling for a long time. A lot of companies aren't going to have the same budgets to put people on the road once it's safe again and some are figuring out that they can do some of the same things remotely.
China hotel numbers came back to about 70% of where they were after 3 months, which would put us on track for mid-June if we discount a billion other variables.
Yeah, this.
This exact thing was said after 9/11. In-person conferences aren't going away. 2020 is basically shot though
I didn’t even have a cell phone 01. Now my cellphone can do what a super computer could do.
Post by: Phil Titola on May 02, 2020, 05:57:59 PM
Hotel industry is absolutely mumped right now but for some reason, my company keeps paying me and has only done paycuts. I expect that to change pretty soon.
95% of hospitality people I know are furloughed and 4% are at about 20% of their pay. You are truly the 1%
I have a more corporate position and am with a company that franchises far more than manages properties. It has saved a lot of people in our company for the time being. Pretty much all my friends/former coworkers at properties are gone.
I'm pretty pessimistic about the rebound of hospitality. I hope those I know who are mostly in sales can get back in late summer and start the rebound.
It's going to be challenging for sure. I know bigger convention destinations, Vegas in particular, are worried that they will never fully recover to what they were. The thought is that even the biggest conventions will be 20% smaller. Some people aren't going to feel comfortable travelling for a long time. A lot of companies aren't going to have the same budgets to put people on the road once it's safe again and some are figuring out that they can do some of the same things remotely.
China hotel numbers came back to about 70% of where they were after 3 months, which would put us on track for mid-June if we discount a billion other variables.
Yeah, this.
This exact thing was said after 9/11. In-person conferences aren't going away. 2020 is basically shot though
I didn’t even have a cell phone 01. Now my cellphone can do what a super computer could do.
Don't underestimate the power of junkets.
Post by: ben ji on May 04, 2020, 11:11:46 AM
We are a young company and were staffed at a level to handle our projected growth which obviously is not happening due to the whole pandemic thing. Last week was our lowest level of volume since the week of christmas and no one has any idea what will happen over the next couple of months so we are making small cuts now to entrench ourselves and hopefully avoid further layoffs down the line.
I get it but dam, hearing him list off the people we had to let go was a gut punch. :frown:
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2020, 11:14:02 AM
Welp, just got off the phone with my bossman and he gave me the heads up our company is laying off 15% of our workforce this morning (I am safe for now). I don't envy his position of having to call up people and let them know they are laid off but he shot it straight with me.
We are a young company and were staffed at a level to handle our projected growth which obviously is not happening due to the whole pandemic thing. Last week was our lowest level of volume since the week of christmas and no one has any idea what will happen over the next couple of months so we are making small cuts now to entrench ourselves and hopefully avoid further layoffs down the line.
I get it but dam, hearing him list off the people we had to let go was a gut punch. :frown:
dang. I thought you were doing well?
that's really tough
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 04, 2020, 11:15:30 AM
Post by: ben ji on May 04, 2020, 11:24:34 AM
Welp, just got off the phone with my bossman and he gave me the heads up our company is laying off 15% of our workforce this morning (I am safe for now). I don't envy his position of having to call up people and let them know they are laid off but he shot it straight with me.
We are a young company and were staffed at a level to handle our projected growth which obviously is not happening due to the whole pandemic thing. Last week was our lowest level of volume since the week of christmas and no one has any idea what will happen over the next couple of months so we are making small cuts now to entrench ourselves and hopefully avoid further layoffs down the line.
I get it but dam, hearing him list off the people we had to let go was a gut punch. :frown:
dang. I thought you were doing well?
that's really tough
Personally I'm killing it and landed a whale of the customer who invoiced more in the month of April than all my other customers I've accumulated in 4 years.
Company wide we are still in a good situation but we are no longer projecting the growth that we were staffed to handle. My boss made a good point that even though the our numbers still look good who knows if we will actual get all of our invoices paid as some of our customers are more than likely going out of business. No one knows what is going to happen so we are digging in.
This whole past 2 months has been surreal, like a simulation that just keeps spinning you in circles.
Post by: 8manpick on May 04, 2020, 12:35:31 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2020, 12:51:46 PM
Imagine having a business in Oregon.
I don't know what this is referencing
Post by: Phil Titola on May 04, 2020, 12:56:12 PM
If I understand right, the Payroll Protection loans require a company to keep at least the same headcount for the 2 month duration of payments. Guessing this means a significant second wave of layoffs from small companies in July?
They only have to keep up the headcount if they want the loan forgiven and can't apply for forgiveness until 8 weeks after they got the money. If they don't, the company has to pay it back like a regular loan at 1% interest.
Definitely could be layoffs after those 8 weeks but hopefully at that time more of the economy is back up and running and hence jobs available.
Post by: Institutional Control on May 04, 2020, 01:07:35 PM
Post by: 8manpick on May 04, 2020, 01:11:36 PM
The 8 weeks is also the time that the money is supposed to cover. The companies basically have to keep the people on payroll for that time, but after that, no incentive to. It seems like it would be crazy for a business to cut headcount during that period so that they can pay back a loan at a low rate instead of having it forgiven entirely. Obviously the calculus changes if the business can’t remain open.If I understand right, the Payroll Protection loans require a company to keep at least the same headcount for the 2 month duration of payments. Guessing this means a significant second wave of layoffs from small companies in July?
They only have to keep up the headcount if they want the loan forgiven and can't apply for forgiveness until 8 weeks after they got the money. If they don't, the company has to pay it back like a regular loan at 1% interest.
Definitely could be layoffs after those 8 weeks but hopefully at that time more of the economy is back up and running and hence jobs available.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2020, 01:45:19 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2020, 01:49:37 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on May 04, 2020, 02:07:41 PM
Trump wants a payroll tax cut. That will really help out those not working. :sdeek:Supposed to encourage hiring. 6% higher wages to overcome the $1000 people can get on unemployment won't make that happen.
Post by: ben ji on May 04, 2020, 02:57:18 PM
Not trolling at all, my company just had it's best sales month in two years, construction seems unstoppable right now. I anticipated that people would start to pull back projects but it's been very minimal thus far.
I bet if you redid the poll now, you'd get different answers. My corporate peeps have almost all had temp salary reductions and/or layoffs to other workers. The service industry people I know were all doing it as a second job for spending money, so while they've been affected they still have income enough to get by.
Construction lags architecture. Architecture has had a really bad couple of months for new billings. We (eng.) haven't slowed down much yet, but I'm not optimistic.
HNTB laid off 15% of their Architecture staff last week according to a buddy of mine.
Post by: 8manpick on May 08, 2020, 10:21:44 AM
Post by: ben ji on May 08, 2020, 08:42:43 PM
So he is leaving the cat ranch tomorrow and is going to work 60 hrs a week for $16 an hour plus overtime for the next three months which is good news.
Not sure why all the states aren't ramping up road construction while people are sheltering in place.
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Post by: waks on May 08, 2020, 10:39:42 PM
My brother had been working music festivals setting up parking/event management stuff for the last couple of years so obviously he is out of work. Just so happens that one of his buddies from the music festival industry landed a road construction contract in Idaho to set up cones etc for highway construction work.Glad to hear he's doing alright. Was always amazed to hear the stories from him about the torment he endured from you throughout his youth. :lol:
So he is leaving the cat ranch tomorrow and is going to work 60 hrs a week for $16 an hour plus overtime for the next three months which is good news.
Not sure why all the states aren't ramping up road construction while people are sheltering in place.
Post by: ben ji on May 08, 2020, 11:34:20 PM
My brother had been working music festivals setting up parking/event management stuff for the last couple of years so obviously he is out of work. Just so happens that one of his buddies from the music festival industry landed a road construction contract in Idaho to set up cones etc for highway construction work.Glad to hear he's doing alright. Was always amazed to hear the stories from him about the torment he endured from you throughout his youth. :lol:
So he is leaving the cat ranch tomorrow and is going to work 60 hrs a week for $16 an hour plus overtime for the next three months which is good news.
Not sure why all the states aren't ramping up road construction while people are sheltering in place.
O gawd, we have a much better relationship now but he was a crap head until my dad finally agreed to put him on adderall/ritalin. Like he had the record for most times getting sent to the principals office in elementary school.
One of my buddies had a younger brother the same age as my brother and they were buds in high school. I talked to their dad like 5 years ago and he gave the best 1 sentence description of my brother I have ever heard.
"I always thought he is either going to end up a millionaire or in jail"
No jail yet!
Post by: Woogy on May 10, 2020, 09:11:51 PM
https://www.kwch.com/content/news/McPherson-business-opens-business-early-owner-faces-charges-570347131.html
Post by: michigancat on May 10, 2020, 09:26:52 PM
Not me, but some WTF all over this. Not sure why no PPP, (or was that only for essential ops), and a really, really poor choice of a hill to die on by the county attorney (arrest warrant, really!?!)
https://www.kwch.com/content/news/McPherson-business-opens-business-early-owner-faces-charges-570347131.html
That router dangling by the cables stressed me out. Also yeah they should have gotten PPP and/or unemployment. Also I liked how they said they would wear masks but weren't wearing masks
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 11, 2020, 11:37:53 PM
Post by: Spracne on May 11, 2020, 11:41:34 PM
Ugh. I’ve paid for countless meals for the people behind me in drive thru’s. Donated to locale charities. Several other things, and I still feel like a POS. I feel like garbage, guys.
Talk to a therapist. Seriously. Not a snarky remark, as attention to your mental health should be more widely espoused in America.
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 13, 2020, 03:49:02 PM
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Post by: DaBigTrain on May 13, 2020, 04:24:33 PM
https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1260556783787089920
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 13, 2020, 04:33:44 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on May 13, 2020, 05:04:05 PM
Not sure why all the states aren't ramping up road construction while people are sheltering in place.
Yeah I had this same thought. Seems like a win win win.
The main road by our house is actually getting repaved. Didn’t seem in that bad of shape so I do wonder if it was planned before the shutdown.
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 13, 2020, 06:50:51 PM
Post by: treysolid on May 13, 2020, 06:51:41 PM
Not sure why all the states aren't ramping up road construction while people are sheltering in place.
Yeah I had this same thought. Seems like a win win win.
The main road by our house is actually getting repaved. Didn’t seem in that bad of shape so I do wonder if it was planned before the shutdown.
Yeah, we might very well need some New Deal-esque programs before this is all said and done.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 13, 2020, 07:14:45 PM
I kind of want to crap all over it because I'm expecting over $7000 that apparently isn't coming and I have no way of contacting anyone who knows what the eff is going on.
You should be able to still file for those weeks, but I'm not 100% on that
Post by: kim carnes on May 13, 2020, 07:53:58 PM
Not sure why all the states aren't ramping up road construction while people are sheltering in place.
Yeah I had this same thought. Seems like a win win win.
The main road by our house is actually getting repaved. Didn’t seem in that bad of shape so I do wonder if it was planned before the shutdown.
I doubt there is some large surplus of road construction companies sitting idle rn.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 13, 2020, 08:15:27 PM
Yes, it usually asks what week you’d like to file for when you go to the site. You might just have to be patient when it finally comes in, but get on the Kansas website and see what weeks you can file for. It should give you all the weeks possible since you first filed. It just might be backed up a bit to get processed. Let me know if you need help, Stevesie.I kind of want to crap all over it because I'm expecting over $7000 that apparently isn't coming and I have no way of contacting anyone who knows what the eff is going on.
You should be able to still file for those weeks, but I'm not 100% on that
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 13, 2020, 08:18:43 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 13, 2020, 08:27:24 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 13, 2020, 08:31:09 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on May 13, 2020, 09:31:43 PM
Also, lib, they did back pay me those 4 weeks I missed out on, for the $600 a week from the feds today. Thanks for the heads up.
:thumbs:
Yes, it usually asks what week you’d like to file for when you go to the site. You might just have to be patient when it finally comes in, but get on the Kansas website and see what weeks you can file for. It should give you all the weeks possible since you first filed. It just might be backed up a bit to get processed. Let me know if you need help, Stevesie.I kind of want to crap all over it because I'm expecting over $7000 that apparently isn't coming and I have no way of contacting anyone who knows what the eff is going on.
You should be able to still file for those weeks, but I'm not 100% on that
also this
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2020, 09:50:47 PM
Also, lib, they did back pay me those 4 weeks I missed out on, for the $600 a week from the feds today. Thanks for the heads up.Glad to hear that wacks
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 13, 2020, 09:55:01 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 13, 2020, 09:57:37 PM
It’s not a question of the number of companies, it’s a question of whether they’re hiring and whether the city is actually paying.Not sure why all the states aren't ramping up road construction while people are sheltering in place.
Yeah I had this same thought. Seems like a win win win.
The main road by our house is actually getting repaved. Didn’t seem in that bad of shape so I do wonder if it was planned before the shutdown.
I doubt there is some large surplus of road construction companies sitting idle rn.
Post by: bucket on May 13, 2020, 10:21:03 PM
It’s not a question of the number of companies, it’s a question of whether they’re hiring and whether the city is actually paying.Not sure why all the states aren't ramping up road construction while people are sheltering in place.
Yeah I had this same thought. Seems like a win win win.
The main road by our house is actually getting repaved. Didn’t seem in that bad of shape so I do wonder if it was planned before the shutdown.
I doubt there is some large surplus of road construction companies sitting idle rn.
What about the fact states are now facing shortfalls?
Post by: ben ji on May 13, 2020, 10:27:10 PM
Cant they just make the money machine go brrrrrrtttttt? (https://media2.giphy.com/media/VicskjkeBJUD6/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7f7d10dc3d82eeef62e6fce1fc6455ab438d8ff85&rid=giphy.gif)It’s not a question of the number of companies, it’s a question of whether they’re hiring and whether the city is actually paying.Not sure why all the states aren't ramping up road construction while people are sheltering in place.
Yeah I had this same thought. Seems like a win win win.
The main road by our house is actually getting repaved. Didn’t seem in that bad of shape so I do wonder if it was planned before the shutdown.
I doubt there is some large surplus of road construction companies sitting idle rn.
What about the fact states are now facing shortfalls?
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 13, 2020, 11:35:34 PM
Pro tip: don’t talk about this in the new to investing thread.Cant they just make the money machine go brrrrrrtttttt? (https://media2.giphy.com/media/VicskjkeBJUD6/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7f7d10dc3d82eeef62e6fce1fc6455ab438d8ff85&rid=giphy.gif)It’s not a question of the number of companies, it’s a question of whether they’re hiring and whether the city is actually paying.Not sure why all the states aren't ramping up road construction while people are sheltering in place.
Yeah I had this same thought. Seems like a win win win.
The main road by our house is actually getting repaved. Didn’t seem in that bad of shape so I do wonder if it was planned before the shutdown.
I doubt there is some large surplus of road construction companies sitting idle rn.
What about the fact states are now facing shortfalls?
Post by: catastrophe on May 14, 2020, 07:32:41 AM
Well I really can’t say how much of it depends on the state budget in particular, but if the money isn’t there then my advice would be not to do it.It’s not a question of the number of companies, it’s a question of whether they’re hiring and whether the city is actually paying.Not sure why all the states aren't ramping up road construction while people are sheltering in place.
Yeah I had this same thought. Seems like a win win win.
The main road by our house is actually getting repaved. Didn’t seem in that bad of shape so I do wonder if it was planned before the shutdown.
I doubt there is some large surplus of road construction companies sitting idle rn.
What about the fact states are now facing shortfalls?
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 14, 2020, 03:59:50 PM
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Post by: 8manpick on May 15, 2020, 07:17:45 PM
Not great
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 15, 2020, 11:07:42 PM
Will be official on Monday that our company is encouraging everyone to take a couple days of vacation every month to avoid doing forced PTO...Still paid tho? Hopefully.
Not great
Post by: 8manpick on May 16, 2020, 09:34:56 AM
YesWill be official on Monday that our company is encouraging everyone to take a couple days of vacation every month to avoid doing forced PTO...Still paid tho? Hopefully.
Not great
Post by: steve dave on May 16, 2020, 02:53:41 PM
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Post by: 8manpick on May 18, 2020, 10:28:58 PM
Hopefully not but also could be so they don’t have to pay out as much PTO when they do layoffs.Oh yeah, definitely this.
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Post by: ChiComCat on May 21, 2020, 08:08:44 AM
Post by: 8manpick on May 21, 2020, 08:54:04 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 21, 2020, 08:54:29 AM
Officially furloughed in a couple of weeks. It's going to be a wild summer.
sucks. I get the feeling you were bracing for it, which I hope makes it easier. but still sucks.
Post by: ChiComCat on May 21, 2020, 09:56:26 AM
Prepping made it a little easier as I've got some plans on how to productively spend that time. Also some unproductive plans.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 21, 2020, 10:21:17 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 21, 2020, 10:30:32 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on May 21, 2020, 10:46:20 AM
We got our 2019 bonuses in early March and that definitely helps the financial hit. It was my first year with the company so I made it a point not to count on the bonus as I didn't fully know what to expect. I just hope I can get back to work on schedule in 3 months and I'll be fine.
Prepping made it a little easier as I've got some plans on how to productively spend that time. Also some unproductive plans.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MeagerIdenticalHart-size_restricted.gif)
Not sure which one grilling/smoking/cooking your ass off falls in but I would love to have a rona feast with you.
Post by: Phil Titola on May 21, 2020, 10:47:43 AM
Are we going to be able to put mitigations in place so we don't see the same layoff impact? Will our ability to test and treat better keep us from having this mass closing again if a second wave does happen?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 21, 2020, 10:56:52 AM
My struggle with all of this is we're furloughing/laying off people now and thinking employment will start to pick back up soon. Then you read of a second wave this fall/winter that hits with the normal flu cycle and could be worse infection/hospitalization wise.
Are we going to be able to put mitigations in place so we don't see the same layoff impact? Will our ability to test and treat better keep us from having this mass closing again if a second wave does happen?
I think the plan is to stay open and maybe only close up hot spots, just slug it out with the bug.
Post by: Phil Titola on May 21, 2020, 11:12:23 AM
My struggle with all of this is we're furloughing/laying off people now and thinking employment will start to pick back up soon. Then you read of a second wave this fall/winter that hits with the normal flu cycle and could be worse infection/hospitalization wise.
Are we going to be able to put mitigations in place so we don't see the same layoff impact? Will our ability to test and treat better keep us from having this mass closing again if a second wave does happen?
I think the plan is to stay open and maybe only close up hot spots, just slug it out with the bug.
To that point, last spring we didn't have a test or a handle on how to treat or even know for certain transmission paths so now this upcoming winter we should have all that in place and be able to have more precise mitigations vs. the blunt closure of the world?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 21, 2020, 11:23:35 AM
My struggle with all of this is we're furloughing/laying off people now and thinking employment will start to pick back up soon. Then you read of a second wave this fall/winter that hits with the normal flu cycle and could be worse infection/hospitalization wise.
Are we going to be able to put mitigations in place so we don't see the same layoff impact? Will our ability to test and treat better keep us from having this mass closing again if a second wave does happen?
I think the plan is to stay open and maybe only close up hot spots, just slug it out with the bug.
To that point, last spring we didn't have a test or a handle on how to treat or even know for certain transmission paths so now this upcoming winter we should have all that in place and be able to have more precise mitigations vs. the blunt closure of the world?
I think this is the thought. I think attitudes and ideas will transform over the summer. I expect there will be a tremendous amount of community moral preparation. Basically braveheart stuff to get everyone ready to stick it out and stay open. I just don't think the money machine can get us out of another shut down.
Post by: michigancat on May 21, 2020, 11:32:57 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 21, 2020, 11:33:54 AM
there is no plan
That means no shutdown.
Post by: michigancat on May 21, 2020, 11:35:03 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 21, 2020, 11:36:48 AM
there is no plan
That means no shutdown.
the shutdown was a reaction, unfortunately there wasn't a plan associated with it. I would bet there are either more reactionary shutdowns in the fall and winter or we never fully reopen
Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 21, 2020, 11:43:33 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on May 21, 2020, 11:56:12 AM
there is no plan
That means no shutdown.
the shutdown was a reaction, unfortunately there wasn't a plan associated with it. I would bet there are either more reactionary shutdowns in the fall and winter or we never fully reopen
Welp the time is now. Let's plan!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 21, 2020, 11:59:01 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 21, 2020, 12:29:34 PM
I'm all for the slug it out with the bug approach.
I'm not sure what this means. just open the doors and wait for a vaccine or what?
Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 21, 2020, 12:39:22 PM
I'm all for the slug it out with the bug approach.
I'm not sure what this means. just open the doors and wait for a vaccine or what?
It means don't have another blanket shutdown later this year.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 21, 2020, 07:31:09 PM
38 Million Unemployed so far. Hope it’s all worth it.
Worth what?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 21, 2020, 07:33:08 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 21, 2020, 07:37:46 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 21, 2020, 07:41:25 PM
Also we know this isn't an old persons disease. If we didn't have social distancing the percentage of non elderly dying would have obviously went up.
There's no one to blame for the state of the economy.
Post by: 8manpick on May 21, 2020, 07:48:03 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 21, 2020, 07:55:08 PM
If we didn't have government imposed social distancing, you really think the economy would have been any better? You really can't think that. You think people would have willingly had elective medical procedures, go to baseball games, hang out in crowded restaurants, go on vacations with strangers from all around the world, go to bars, with as many people dying as would have without social distancing?I don’t think I’m getting my job back any time soon and I’m definitely pouting about it. I put in so much work at my company, where I might have put myself out of work. It’s frustrating for me. I’ve been furloughed for 2 months already, but they don’t need me back because I closed all of my openings before this hit. I’m very sensitive to getting lectured by people who are still working, making the same income, and telling us we need to stay shutdown for awhile. The way my career was going was very exciting for me. I stayed/lived at home through most of my 20’s to pay off student loans and make a life for myself. It literally vanished overnight.
Also we know this isn't an old persons disease. If we didn't have social distancing the percentage of non elderly dying would have obviously went up.
There's no one to blame for the state of the economy.
Post by: steve dave on May 21, 2020, 08:15:10 PM
Officially furloughed in a couple of weeks. It's going to be a wild summer.Hope everything is cool, sucks
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Post by: Phil Titola on May 21, 2020, 08:46:22 PM
There aren't any perfect analogs for the US, but Sweden has basically done the stay open experiment, and their economy is only marginally outpacing that of it's neighbors, but the death rate is significantly higher.
Good point. Would their economy have done better if their neighbors would have went with their plan vs. the lockdown route? I don't much of anything of the Swedish economy except the red fish production.
Post by: michigancat on May 21, 2020, 08:52:21 PM
I don't much of anything of the Swedish economy except the red fish production.
Unfortunately for Sweden Volvo and IKEA are dependent on the global economy.
Post by: mocat on May 21, 2020, 09:36:30 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2020, 08:41:59 AM
Post by: bucket on May 27, 2020, 08:47:47 AM
Just got the call. They're bringing me back on Monday! Thank you, Jesus!
:emawkid:
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 27, 2020, 08:48:07 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2020, 08:51:52 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 27, 2020, 08:54:18 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 27, 2020, 08:57:20 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on May 27, 2020, 08:58:04 AM
Just got the call. They're bringing me back on Monday! Thank you, Jesus!
Awesome news. Go kick in some teeth Wacks!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 27, 2020, 08:59:18 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on May 27, 2020, 10:09:00 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on May 27, 2020, 11:21:55 AM
Hotel industry is absolutely mumped right now but for some reason, my company keeps paying me and has only done paycuts. I expect that to change pretty soon.
95% of hospitality people I know are furloughed and 4% are at about 20% of their pay. You are truly the 1%
I have a more corporate position and am with a company that franchises far more than manages properties. It has saved a lot of people in our company for the time being. Pretty much all my friends/former coworkers at properties are gone.
Any update from the hospitality world? Bookings appear to be rising slightly from the people I know but not enough to save most jobs in the short term.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 27, 2020, 11:38:10 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on May 27, 2020, 11:39:36 AM
Got a personnel call from the VIP concierge at Loews thanking me for my opening night rezzie, offering me a second room at 50% off and telling me I can check in at noon to enjoy the new digs.
Excited to hear your review. Looks amazing.
Post by: cfbandyman on May 27, 2020, 11:42:51 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 27, 2020, 11:55:59 AM
Got a personnel call from the VIP concierge at Loews thanking me for my opening night rezzie, offering me a second room at 50% off and telling me I can check in at noon to enjoy the new digs.
Excited to hear your review. Looks amazing.
It does. I thought it was pretty legit for them to let me come over starting at lunch to tour with all my bros and broettes
Post by: LickNeckey on May 27, 2020, 12:28:22 PM
Just got the call. They're bringing me back on Monday! Thank you, Jesus!
Awesome news. Go kick in some teeth Wacks!
Then find some rough ridin' dentists to fix them!
:cheers:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2020, 01:12:28 PM
Post by: chum1 on June 05, 2020, 07:57:15 AM
https://twitter.com/sarahkliff/status/1268887764331900931
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 07:59:38 AM
Post by: puniraptor on June 05, 2020, 08:05:48 AM
Enjoy the boom!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 08:42:07 AM
Post by: DQ12 on June 05, 2020, 08:43:40 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on June 05, 2020, 08:45:55 AM
People are still scared to come in based off our numbers, but we're definitely recovering. It's super sad to hear all of these Dentists looking for jobs, because their previous employer can't open up because ..... "Insert the Northeast overall". So happy to be back. I'm averaging like 15 interviews a day right now. It's insane out there. Hoping everyone is safe and we all make a full recovery from this.
My dentist is being a super prude opening back up. Can't get in until end of this month.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 08:50:24 AM
Market's back boys. Wacky saved us!:emawkid:
Woof! A lot of private practices lack ppe right now and are definitely taking their time with their slow openings. We're definitely lucky when it comes to this. Had to adjust our budgets to make it happen.People are still scared to come in based off our numbers, but we're definitely recovering. It's super sad to hear all of these Dentists looking for jobs, because their previous employer can't open up because ..... "Insert the Northeast overall". So happy to be back. I'm averaging like 15 interviews a day right now. It's insane out there. Hoping everyone is safe and we all make a full recovery from this.
My dentist is being a super prude opening back up. Can't get in until end of this month.
Post by: chum1 on June 05, 2020, 08:52:15 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 05, 2020, 09:03:56 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 05, 2020, 09:04:45 AM
My dentist is like a sixty something hippie who smokes weed and spends a lot of time in Colorado. Great sense of humor. He still hasn't reopened.
Mine has a grateful dead ankle tattoo! (not lopaka tho)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 09:12:46 AM
My dentist stayed open this entire time :dunno:Seriously? Are you sure he didn't stay open for emergency cases only? We were not deemed essential when this first went down. Only for emergency cases.
Post by: Phil Titola on June 05, 2020, 09:18:10 AM
My dentist is like a sixty something hippie who smokes weed and spends a lot of time in Colorado. Great sense of humor. He still hasn't reopened.
If you didn't say that last part I'd think we went to the same place.
Post by: Brock Landers on June 05, 2020, 09:28:05 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 09:30:02 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 05, 2020, 09:32:11 AM
My dentist stayed open this entire time :dunno:Seriously? Are you sure he didn't stay open for emergency cases only? We were not deemed essential when this first went down. Only for emergency cases.
Well I picked this dude because he's in the same building that I work at and him and his assistants came to work every day. Maybe they were just playing poker or something, I dunno.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 09:36:04 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 05, 2020, 09:37:42 AM
Post by: mocat on June 05, 2020, 09:51:25 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 09:56:18 AM
a high school classmate of mine is now a dentist and he just listed his house on zillow for over $1 million. real look in the mirror and think about my life choices type moment for meYou know which school he went to? UMKC? Just curious if he got out of the Midwest for school. Closest we have around here is UMKC, Creighton, Oklahoma, and Saint Louis.
Post by: mocat on June 05, 2020, 10:00:31 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 10:13:35 AM
Post by: waks on June 05, 2020, 10:36:47 AM
Post by: waks on June 05, 2020, 10:38:04 AM
a high school classmate of mine is now a dentist and he just listed his house on zillow for over $1 million. real look in the mirror and think about my life choices type moment for meI don't care how well it pays; I would not want to be working in some rando's mouth. :Yuck:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 10:39:22 AM
Seems like all of the dentists in MHK went to UNL.Interesting. I forget about them. I've never really even talked to a Dentist from there tbh. Geography makes sense.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 05, 2020, 10:39:47 AM
Post by: Spracne on June 05, 2020, 10:47:20 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 10:49:42 AM
Being a dentist sounds terrible. Don't they still have the highest suicide rate among professions?Yes. #1 alcoholics too.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 05, 2020, 10:52:27 AM
Being a dentist sounds terrible. Don't they still have the highest suicide rate among professions?Yes. #1 alcoholics too.
Dang, dentists burn hot
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 10:57:55 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 05, 2020, 11:02:49 AM
I'd let Wackycat69, DDS order me some whitening trays at a huge mark up
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 05, 2020, 11:03:35 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 11:11:54 AM
Post by: kim carnes on June 05, 2020, 11:14:57 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 05, 2020, 11:18:34 AM
Post by: treysolid on June 05, 2020, 11:34:22 AM
...and boy was I right. Guys, they made me rinse my mouth with hydrogen peroxide before my cleaning. I've never put peroxide in my mouth before, and boy oh boy does it leave a super shitty aftertaste in your mouth. :Yuck:
Post by: star seed 7 on June 05, 2020, 12:14:47 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 12:25:09 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on June 05, 2020, 12:33:31 PM
OMG, they bang their assistants ALL the time. I believe they have a higher divorce rate than most professions as well.
Everything I know about dentists I learned from Bad Bosses. Jennifer Anniston was a tyrant.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2020, 12:37:04 PM
Post by: chum1 on June 05, 2020, 12:48:09 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on June 06, 2020, 01:48:05 PM
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Post by: Tobias on October 13, 2020, 09:44:50 AM
Have a round at wild wild west, on me.
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