Post by: steve dave on March 28, 2020, 12:51:05 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on March 28, 2020, 02:28:35 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2020, 03:07:53 PM
Post by: sys on March 28, 2020, 04:13:42 PM
We're going to use the same national polling data that didn't give the proper sense of how the EC went in '16?
just adjust it. subtract about 3% from dems for the expected electoral college penalty.
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2020, 05:33:38 PM
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2020, 08:07:46 AM
Post by: chum1 on April 13, 2020, 07:28:54 PM
https://twitter.com/RonBrownstein/status/1248995099108716544
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2020, 08:06:22 AM
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Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on April 15, 2020, 09:05:31 AM
How the eff does this even happen on a lib controlled twatter platform?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: 8manpick on April 15, 2020, 09:06:48 AM
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on April 15, 2020, 09:13:26 AM
Twitter is MAGA headQuarters
:runaway:
Post by: turnbull on April 15, 2020, 09:42:55 AM
1. they got the percentage dead on right she'd win by about a couple points....just the votes were in the wrong places 2.6 million more votes for one candidate would make anyone assume that she won. So different set of standards Electoral College math vs national poll math
2. Wisconsin was close to tilting due to the the midterms before, Michigan to anyone who was paying attention noticed in the primary 2016 the GOP had more votes, Pennsylvania was a worry and hence the reason the last minute rally for her in 2016.
3. Voter Suppression and Apathy worked perfectly
4. People lied at the exit polls, even Paul Ryan received a phone call soon after the polls closed, that the GOP modeling/Turnout expectations were that Trump would go down in flames, Schumer was going to be Majority leader, the GOP would keep the house but it'd be very close....so to say hahaha they knew...they were wrong as well.
5. it is the equilivent of getting a bad beat hand is what happened you are dealt a full house in poker only for the last card to come down and give the person an straight flush (when they started with a 3 and 7)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 15, 2020, 11:03:59 PM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1250182758284042242
How the eff does this even happen on a lib controlled twatter platform?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on April 15, 2020, 11:14:29 PM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1250182758284042242
How the eff does this even happen on a lib controlled twatter platform?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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For the time being... yes
Post by: chum1 on April 21, 2020, 07:17:39 PM
https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/1252713965739634689
Post by: sys on April 21, 2020, 07:52:14 PM
https://twitter.com/nick_ramsey/status/1252723759041187847
Post by: CHONGS on April 21, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
That needs to be cross posted to the garbage in body thread.
Post by: chum1 on April 21, 2020, 07:59:05 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 21, 2020, 08:02:14 PM
Post by: CHONGS on April 21, 2020, 08:12:10 PM
Post by: chum1 on April 21, 2020, 08:16:55 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2020, 08:16:56 PM
Post by: chum1 on April 21, 2020, 08:19:22 PM
Stunned (okay, not really) that Useful Idiot enclave Milwaukee has started the ballot harvesting process so early.
You're going to get mumped up the ass with massive voter fraud this year and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2020, 08:21:36 PM
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Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2020, 08:22:12 PM
it'll suck for the dems to lose a safe blue seat, but under no circumstances can anyone vote for this man.Wow
https://twitter.com/nick_ramsey/status/1252723759041187847
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 21, 2020, 09:03:42 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 21, 2020, 09:22:33 PM
Stunned (okay, not really) that Useful Idiot enclave Milwaukee has started the ballot harvesting process so early.
You're going to get mumped up the ass with massive voter fraud this year and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.
This made me laugh really hard lol
Post by: catastrophe on April 21, 2020, 09:26:55 PM
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2020, 09:30:43 PM
Awesome move by the city.Incredible that this isn’t universal
https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/1252713965739634689
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Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2020, 10:45:48 PM
it'll suck for the dems to lose a safe blue seat, but under no circumstances can anyone vote for this man.
https://twitter.com/nick_ramsey/status/1252723759041187847
There's a reason we don't see him eat it.
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2020, 10:56:25 PM
Republicans hate itAwesome move by the city.Incredible that this isn’t universal
https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/1252713965739634689
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2020, 10:58:22 PM
Stunned (okay, not really) that Useful Idiot enclave Milwaukee has started the ballot harvesting process so early.
You're going to get mumped up the ass with massive voter fraud this year and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.
Useful Idiots for a 3rd World Existence
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 21, 2020, 11:37:20 PM
Post by: chum1 on April 22, 2020, 11:58:04 AM
https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/1252970553599758339
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on April 23, 2020, 11:38:16 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/declassified-docs-bin-laden-plotted-to-push-u-s-into-crisis-by-making-biden-president
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Declassified Docs: Bin Laden Plotted To Push U.S. Into ‘Crisis’ By Making Biden President
Declassified documents that were retrieved from inside Al-Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden’s Pakistani compound in 2011 revealed that he wanted to assassinate then-President Barack Obama to make “totally unprepared” Joe Biden the next president of the United States, predicting that Biden would lead the U.S. “into a crisis.”
The documents, first reported by The Washington Post in 2012, were unearthed by Fox News Editor Gregg Re on Wednesday night.
In a letter, bin Laden wrote to a top Al-Qaeda official that he was instructing the Islamic terrorist organization to create two groups to watch for and to target U.S. aircraft visiting the region that could be carrying Obama or then-CIA Director David Petraeus.
Truth really is stranger than fiction...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: CHONGS on April 23, 2020, 11:44:03 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 23, 2020, 11:45:19 AM
Albeit, in the year of our FSM 2020, we must temper ChiCom Joe's war mongering ways. As we try and understand who will really be running the country once the addled and utterly incoherent Joe Biden wins the ballot harvested mail in election.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 24, 2020, 01:00:38 PM
Delaying the election has both a good and bad side. The bad: The DNC ballot harvesting campaign doesn't have cover of the pandemic in order to justify.
The good: It will give time for the DNC (the most corrupt political party in the developed world) to find somebody to replace ChiCom Joe.
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-predicts-trump-try-postpone-us-election-064942424.html
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2020, 03:46:28 PM
Now at 80K tweets and counting, and the Russian conspiracy theories have already begun. :lol:
https://twitter.com/maddenifico/status/1254080765601734661?s=20
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 27, 2020, 06:47:11 AM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1254434812388970502?s=21
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on April 27, 2020, 07:03:51 AM
With a High Amount of Confidence the Intel Committee and Community is saying the same thing. The Russians are going to get involved again (read, Senate Intel Committee Report, Mueller Report, basic timelines). Facts are a stubborn thing and basic math shows that around 2:30-3:30AM those #dropoutbiden, #LoveTrump kinda things get pushed which coincides (you can debate correlation or causation that is fair) around the time the Russians are fully staffed in the Internet Research Agency. The Russians did help Trump in 2016, and they'll do it again in 2020.....because they know they can...and the GOP doesn't care because it benefits them...They scream about voter fraud, which they did in NC 9 and whatever happened in GA with Kemp controlling the registrations and voter booths, but if the RNC was wholesale attacked/hacked by the Russians and spread information about the Republican Nominee while pushing to help the Democrats you'd more than likely be singing a different tune. And to quote McConnell in August 2016 "Any public attempts by the White House to counter the Russians I'll turn into an act of partisanship...you're trying to screw the GOP nominee".
With what is literally all over the news this morning, this won’t age well at all.
:ROFL: :ROFL:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 27, 2020, 07:15:52 AM
Post by: sys on April 28, 2020, 07:36:20 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on April 28, 2020, 08:31:03 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 29, 2020, 11:15:47 AM
I hope Jesse Ventura wins the Green Party nomination and qualifies for a debate.
I'll vote for Biden if Ventura wins the GP nomination.
Post by: Kat Kid on April 29, 2020, 12:15:58 PM
I hope Jesse Ventura wins the Green Party nomination and qualifies for a debate.
I'll vote for Biden if Ventura wins the GP nomination.
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Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on April 29, 2020, 12:41:40 PM
I hope Jesse Ventura wins the Green Party nomination and qualifies for a debate.
I'll vote for Biden if Ventura wins the GP nomination.
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Didn't Biden already promise us no economic intercourse?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 29, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1255293442516815872
This like a last gasp for political funding before his term is up? Seems really late to be getting into the election.
Running as a third party candidate is more about getting your name on the ballot than actually winning.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 29, 2020, 03:13:02 PM
Post by: chum1 on April 29, 2020, 06:11:24 PM
https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1255590532912275456
Post by: CHONGS on April 29, 2020, 06:18:39 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 29, 2020, 09:08:40 PM
LOL it's not in play. It predictit has is that close imma go get some free money.
My theory of Trump and polls is that the pollsters never reach people who don't want to be "reached." And the people who actively avoid being reached are overwhelmingly pro-Trump.
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2020, 09:10:04 PM
LOL it's not in play. It predictit has is that close imma go get some free money.
My theory of Trump and polls is that the pollsters never reach people who don't want to be "reached." And the people who actively avoid being reached are overwhelmingly pro-Trump.
My theory is a lot of people don't want to admit they'll vote for him.
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2020, 09:20:01 PM
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Post by: mocat on April 29, 2020, 11:54:04 PM
Like spracs for exampleLOL it's not in play. It predictit has is that close imma go get some free money.
My theory of Trump and polls is that the pollsters never reach people who don't want to be "reached." And the people who actively avoid being reached are overwhelmingly pro-Trump.
My theory is a lot of people don't want to admit they'll vote for him.
Post by: Spracne on April 29, 2020, 11:56:26 PM
Like spracs for exampleLOL it's not in play. It predictit has is that close imma go get some free money.
My theory of Trump and polls is that the pollsters never reach people who don't want to be "reached." And the people who actively avoid being reached are overwhelmingly pro-Trump.
My theory is a lot of people don't want to admit they'll vote for him.
When did you become such a chode?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2020, 12:03:57 AM
Post by: Spracne on April 30, 2020, 12:05:10 AM
I mean...
:alleyoop:
Post by: nicname on April 30, 2020, 12:33:19 AM
:eek:
https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1255590532912275456
I mean, lol at Hillary amirite?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 30, 2020, 12:44:20 AM
Post by: Spracne on April 30, 2020, 12:57:51 AM
Post by: sys on April 30, 2020, 02:11:48 AM
My theory of Trump and polls is that the pollsters never reach people who don't want to be "reached." And the people who actively avoid being reached are overwhelmingly pro-Trump.
response rates on polls are way up under the shut down. don't know how/if that is impacting results, but it's a new twist.
Post by: sys on April 30, 2020, 02:15:01 AM
I like how Dax is planting these seeds early, so that if Joe wins, this Jill puppetmaster narrative is already primed and ready to fire.
we'll find out in about a week which conservative conspiracy site is pushing this. and a week after that it will be in mainstream conservative media. dax is a reliable early warning system.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 30, 2020, 10:06:33 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 30, 2020, 10:17:14 AM
https://twitter.com/krystalball/status/1255547954498330630
dems really think this?
Post by: MakeItRain on April 30, 2020, 10:51:10 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 30, 2020, 10:55:48 AM
I like how Dax is planting these seeds early, so that if Joe wins, this Jill puppetmaster narrative is already primed and ready to fire.
we'll find out in about a week which conservative conspiracy site is pushing this. and a week after that it will be in mainstream conservative media. dax is a reliable early warning system.
It is a great study in how the stupid virus spreads through the maga crowd....find the source and it grows expo
Post by: chum1 on May 03, 2020, 08:18:14 PM
Post by: Spracne on May 03, 2020, 08:22:40 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 03, 2020, 09:22:53 PM
So much missing context. I have no idea.He won a defamation suit against the American Sniper dude/estate. (I was also confused by the video)
Post by: Kat Kid on May 03, 2020, 09:24:06 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 03, 2020, 09:28:19 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 03, 2020, 09:29:12 PM
Jesse Ventura has my vote.
He tried to bust the largest Minnesota teachers union when he was the governor.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 03, 2020, 09:32:07 PM
Jesse Ventura has my vote.
He tried to bust the largest Minnesota teachers union when he was the governor.
I will stop doing the bit.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 03, 2020, 09:35:43 PM
Jesse Ventura has my vote.
He tried to bust the largest Minnesota teachers union when he was the governor.
I will stop doing the bit.
:ROFL: you can never know these days. I don't think he'll win the nomination, I'd like to think that Greens actually voting in a primary won't be swayed by celebrity, but it's certainly possible.
Post by: bucket on May 03, 2020, 09:39:24 PM
Jesse Ventura has my vote.
Enabler
Post by: Kat Kid on May 04, 2020, 07:38:38 AM
JUST WHEN I THINK I AM OUT, HE PUUULLLLLLLLLS ME BACK IN!
Post by: 8manpick on May 04, 2020, 09:14:23 AM
Post by: sys on May 04, 2020, 07:27:07 PM
https://twitter.com/deepa_shivaram/status/1257453596930686977
Post by: Kat Kid on May 04, 2020, 07:36:32 PM
Post by: sys on May 04, 2020, 07:40:44 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on May 04, 2020, 07:49:18 PM
i don't think it was dumb, but most of the same people would still be vp candidates if he hadn't said he'd pick a woman.
It is just all so clumsy and hilarious.
I mean lmao
Quote
Washington, DC (CNN)Former Vice President Joe Biden for the first time on Saturday said that his vice presidential vetting committee is looking at "more than a dozen women" and that there is "significantly more than one black woman" being considered.
Also, Tom Perez had a great quote comparing Biden's sexual assault allegations to "Hillary's emails"
just great stuff all around.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 04, 2020, 09:42:59 PM
i don't think it was dumb, but most of the same people would still be vp candidates if he hadn't said he'd pick a woman.
It is just all so clumsy and hilarious.
I mean lmaoQuoteWashington, DC (CNN)Former Vice President Joe Biden for the first time on Saturday said that his vice presidential vetting committee is looking at "more than a dozen women" and that there is "significantly more than one black woman" being considered.
Also, Tom Perez had a great quote comparing Biden's sexual assault allegations to "Hillary's emails"
just great stuff all around.
Total rough ridin' clown show. I'm all for the pendulum swinging the other direction for representation, we've seen the deluge of mediocre white men as vice presidents, but this is just a complete mockery. In none of these quotes are Biden or his surrogates even bothering to talk about how qualified these women are, eff he might as well pick Mariah Carey to be the VP.
I actually will feel much better about him picking Harris, Whitmer, or tiny baby Klo than I would fake progressives Abrams or Warren. Those two have sickened me the most during this whole process, just no conviction about anything at all. Before bloomie came in and distracted her, she spent months just murdering Biden.
The Perez quote was despicable, the dems are leaning way in with the hypocrisy and lack of tact.
Post by: Spracne on May 04, 2020, 10:25:47 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2020, 10:41:08 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 04, 2020, 11:25:49 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 05, 2020, 12:40:29 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 05, 2020, 01:29:18 AM
Affirming and reaffirming the well deserved most corrupt political movement in the world label.
Are the democrats more corrupt than the republicans because the republicans stopped trying to keep up appearances while the democrats are still trying to convince the public that they are different? I'm going to give the edge to the republicans because they're south racist while the dems are the types to mock the republicans for their southern racism while never having people of color over to dinner and hoping their daughter doesn't bring one home from college.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 05, 2020, 06:50:57 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 05, 2020, 01:43:54 PM
It’s always straight to skin color with you. A linear one track mind.
Kind of impossible for me to ignore, dax. The fact that people like you refuse to acknowledge that is precisely the problem and why it always will be.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 05, 2020, 01:50:05 PM
It’s always straight to skin color with you. A linear one track mind.
Kind of impossible for me to ignore, dax. The fact that people like you refuse to acknowledge that is precisely the problem and why it always will be.
It's always going to be the problem because people like you always want it to be the problem.
I make comments on here based on the beliefs and policies of individuals, not the color of their skin.
Give it try sometime.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 05, 2020, 02:22:15 PM
It’s always straight to skin color with you. A linear one track mind.
Kind of impossible for me to ignore, dax. The fact that people like you refuse to acknowledge that is precisely the problem and why it always will be.
It's always going to be the problem because people like you always want it to be the problem.
I make comments on here based on the beliefs and policies of individuals, not the color of their skin.
Give it try sometime.
lol, yes biased structures exists because women and minorities acknowledge the injustices. I'm 100% sure we'll see true equality if we just stopped whining about it.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 05, 2020, 02:26:39 PM
It’s always straight to skin color with you. A linear one track mind.
Kind of impossible for me to ignore, dax. The fact that people like you refuse to acknowledge that is precisely the problem and why it always will be.
It's always going to be the problem because people like you always want it to be the problem.
I make comments on here based on the beliefs and policies of individuals, not the color of their skin.
Give it try sometime.
lol, yes biased structures exists because women and minorities acknowledge the injustices. I'm 100% sure we'll see true equality if we just stopped whining about it.
There's lots of injustices in this world MIR covering all races, greeds, colors, sexes and orientation, but you constantly play the race card when I'm speaking in regard to political policy as it pertains to the operational mechanisms of various entities, in this case, the DNC
Now, this is where I'll play the Resident Useful Idiot whataboutism card and then I'll get back to the corrupt charade of the operational DNC.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 05, 2020, 05:02:07 PM
It’s always straight to skin color with you. A linear one track mind.
Kind of impossible for me to ignore, dax. The fact that people like you refuse to acknowledge that is precisely the problem and why it always will be.
It's always going to be the problem because people like you always want it to be the problem.
I make comments on here based on the beliefs and policies of individuals, not the color of their skin.
Give it try sometime.
lol, yes biased structures exists because women and minorities acknowledge the injustices. I'm 100% sure we'll see true equality if we just stopped whining about it.
There's lots of injustices in this world MIR covering all races, greeds, colors, sexes and orientation, but you constantly play the race card when I'm speaking in regard to political policy as it pertains to the operational mechanisms of various entities, in this case, the DNC
lawl
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I am riveted to see what injustices you think white men face.
Post by: wetwillie on May 05, 2020, 06:53:20 PM
Post by: sys on May 07, 2020, 03:04:25 PM
https://twitter.com/lkmcgann/status/1258456809544744962
Post by: MakeItRain on May 07, 2020, 03:46:32 PM
It’s always straight to skin color with you. A linear one track mind.
Kind of impossible for me to ignore, dax. The fact that people like you refuse to acknowledge that is precisely the problem and why it always will be.
It's always going to be the problem because people like you always want it to be the problem.
I make comments on here based on the beliefs and policies of individuals, not the color of their skin.
Give it try sometime.
lol, yes biased structures exists because women and minorities acknowledge the injustices. I'm 100% sure we'll see true equality if we just stopped whining about it.
There's lots of injustices in this world MIR covering all races, greeds, colors, sexes and orientation, but you constantly play the race card when I'm speaking in regard to political policy as it pertains to the operational mechanisms of various entities, in this case, the DNC
lawl
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/097a3ccf09ac6bbba27fea5057a80bf5/tenor.gif?itemid=5663529)
I am riveted to see what injustices you think white men face.
Still waiting
Post by: steve dave on May 07, 2020, 04:12:10 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 07, 2020, 11:06:39 PM
Post by: nicname on May 07, 2020, 11:43:44 PM
Well, for starters, there should be a Whited. If they get a Blacked it's only fair. Infuriating.
What about whiteAF?
Post by: steve dave on May 08, 2020, 06:41:52 AM
Well, for starters, there should be a Whited. If they get a Blacked it's only fair. Infuriating.
What about whiteAF?
I need it to be clearly a copycat but for people like me, white guys.
Post by: steve dave on May 08, 2020, 06:44:54 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 08, 2020, 08:12:06 AM
Post by: steve dave on May 09, 2020, 10:35:57 AM
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Post by: sys on May 09, 2020, 07:26:15 PM
https://twitter.com/baseballot/status/1259249715134283776
Post by: steve dave on May 09, 2020, 07:57:01 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 10, 2020, 10:58:43 AM
Even dax couldn't some up with his usual stream of bullshit to justify that dumbfuckery.
The only "stream of usual bullshit" on this blog, comes straight off your keyboard.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 10, 2020, 11:00:17 AM
His fat old ass isn’t living that long
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Joe won't even finish his first term.
Hell, he may not even get the nomination.
We'll see how Jill performs in the coming weeks, she might be able to save him to get him elected.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 10, 2020, 06:01:22 PM
Even dax couldn't some up with his usual stream of bullshit to justify that dumbfuckery.
The only "stream of usual bullshit" on this blog, comes straight off your keyboard.
I'm not 85 years old, I don't use a keyboard.
Post by: steve dave on May 11, 2020, 11:38:33 AM
Yes, his old ass isn’t either. We agree dax.His fat old ass isn’t living that long
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Joe won't even finish his first term.
Hell, he may not even get the nomination.
We'll see how Jill performs in the coming weeks, she might be able to save him to get him elected.
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Post by: sys on May 15, 2020, 05:48:31 PM
https://twitter.com/DanielBush/status/1261283094319030274
https://twitter.com/natashakorecki/status/1261393132840554497
Post by: Spracne on May 15, 2020, 05:49:54 PM
for me, these two articles, especially the npr piece, pretty much put the reade allegations to bed. i no longer consider it accurate to state that biden has been credibly accused of rape.
https://twitter.com/DanielBush/status/1261283094319030274
https://twitter.com/natashakorecki/status/1261393132840554497
Wow. Talk about victim blaming. smdh.
Post by: 8manpick on May 15, 2020, 07:13:48 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on May 15, 2020, 08:11:27 PM
I don't even know if people trust Biden on the issue.
But it loses some relative sting when your opponent has been accused of similar conduct 25 times or more...
Post by: sys on May 15, 2020, 08:18:11 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 15, 2020, 08:27:12 PM
for me, these two articles, especially the npr piece, pretty much put the reade allegations to bed. i no longer consider it accurate to state that biden has been credibly accused of rape.
https://twitter.com/DanielBush/status/1261283094319030274
https://twitter.com/natashakorecki/status/1261393132840554497
That's not the point at all, sys.
Post by: sys on May 15, 2020, 08:32:05 PM
That's not the point at all, sys.
what's not the point?
Post by: MakeItRain on May 15, 2020, 08:39:34 PM
That's not the point at all, sys.
what's not the point?
That you're acting like you or anyone else ever took her claims the least bit seriously, and this represents some turning point. Why would we care what Biden staffers have to say? The fact that her Biden story has changed, a lot, isn't new, and falsely accusing others doesn't mean that she couldn't actually be assaulted by someone else, at least that's what we've been hearing from liberals previously.
Also her claims have been scrutinized much more than those of other accusers.
Post by: sys on May 15, 2020, 08:55:47 PM
That you're acting like you or anyone else ever took her claims the least bit seriously, and this represents some turning point. Why would we care what Biden staffers have to say? The fact that her Biden story has changed, a lot, isn't new, and falsely accusing others doesn't mean that she couldn't actually be assaulted by someone else, at least that's what we've been hearing from liberals previously.
Also her claims have been scrutinized much more than those of other accusers.
i took her allegation seriously, although i never found it terribly convincing. many others did as well. these articles exist because reporters took her claims seriously and investigated them.
Post by: sys on May 15, 2020, 09:17:53 PM
I mean you could say a point would be they (reporters/interested parties) should also demonstrate through Biden that this didn't occur.
i'm not sure what "through biden" means, but the npr article did a very thorough job of demonstrating that reade's allegation is highly improbable.
Post by: sys on May 15, 2020, 09:41:48 PM
I could be wrong, I thought there was discussion of complaints from staff could be held in some of his records for one.
biden gave permission for the senate personnel records to be released, but my somewhat fuzzy understanding is that some privacy law prevented that from happening. i saw some people saying that if reade also consented, they could be released, but i don't know that to be accurate.
biden's senate papers were donated to the u of delaware to be made public after his retirement and he has not consented to have those papers unsealed, but people that seem to know say that there would not be any personnel records in those papers.
the discussion is somewhat moot as reade does not say that she filed a report alleging sexual assault at the time, so there would be nothing directly pertaining to her allegations that could confirm or refute her allegations in any records.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 15, 2020, 09:44:12 PM
That you're acting like you or anyone else ever took her claims the least bit seriously, and this represents some turning point. Why would we care what Biden staffers have to say? The fact that her Biden story has changed, a lot, isn't new, and falsely accusing others doesn't mean that she couldn't actually be assaulted by someone else, at least that's what we've been hearing from liberals previously.
Also her claims have been scrutinized much more than those of other accusers.
i took her allegation seriously, although i never found it terribly convincing. many others did as well. these articles exist because reporters took her claims seriously and investigated them.
These articles exist because there was an immediate campaign to discredit the claims. The amount of the scrutiny given her claims is unprecedented. If it's your claim that this scrutiny is due to her claims being taken seriously, then the inverse has to be true. The lack of investigative vigor given to the claims from accusers of other high profile politicians is because the same media didn't take these other claims as seriously. However, they were taken seriously enough to slap the accusations directly on the accused.
For the record, I do think Reade is exaggerating. I also think that she has spent years telling people that Biden made her uncomfortable, because he did, he just didn't get anything close to putting his hand up her skirt and penetrating her. However, Biden is absolutely hiding something. There is no other explanation for him allowing his campaign to review those University of Delaware files, but won't release them publicly.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 15, 2020, 09:49:57 PM
The one thing we can definitely say is that Joe Biden has several other women that have accused him of sexual harassment and literal reels of videotape of him committing what would get most of us fired if not criminally charged.
If people want to go ahead and make the argument that they don’t care about it or Trump has more sexual assault accusations so on balance Biden is better, it would be a hell of a lot more honest.
Post by: sys on May 15, 2020, 09:58:40 PM
the notion that trying to corroborate her story or reporting the inability to do so is somehow undue or untoward is borderline insane.
people that give every indication of knowing what they're talking about say that there would not be any personnel records in biden's senate records. the reason why he won't request they be unsealed is almost certainly the same reason he placed the condition they not be made public until his retirement in the first place - the papers include information having nothing to do with an obscure former aide that would be politically damaging.
Post by: sys on May 15, 2020, 10:06:28 PM
There are only two people that know what happened between Joe Biden and Tara Reade on that day. Given Biden’s current state, we may have to round that number down a bit.
The one thing we can definitely say is that Joe Biden has several other women that have accused him of sexual harassment and literal reels of videotape of him committing what would get most of us fired if not criminally charged.
If people want to go ahead and make the argument that they don’t care about it or Trump has more sexual assault accusations so on balance Biden is better, it would be a hell of a lot more honest.
it's important to be clear about two different classes of behavior.
there is the behavior numerous women have said biden has engaged in, that has been captured on video and that biden has admitted to doing. there is no question that these things happened and no one, afaik, has claimed that they didn't. it is very possible that something of that nature also happened with reade.
then there is the allegation of sexual assault/rape that has only been alleged by reade. i'm not going to recapitulate the litany of reasons why that allegation is improbable, the articles linked earlier do that.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 15, 2020, 10:16:10 PM
the idea that the npr piece or the vox article from a week or so ago were biased against reade is pretty ridiculous
No one made that claim so I have no idea why you brought it up.
the notion that trying to corroborate her story or reporting the inability to do so is somehow undue or untoward is borderline insane.Again no one claimed this either.
You said that the articles were written because her claims were taken seriously. I showed the juxtaposition of how well her claims were vetted when compared to other high profile accusations. Again if your claim is true, the inverse about the other claims have to be true, unless YOU are claiming there was widespread media bias in the other claims. I was fine with the histories of the other accusers not drug out for public consumption, the same should have happened here.
people that give every indication of knowing what they're talking about say that there would not be any personnel records in biden's senate records. the reason why he won't request they be unsealed is almost certainly the same reason he placed the condition they not be made public until his retirement in the first place - the papers include information having nothing to do with an obscure former aide that would be politically damaging.
Once he allowed civilians working on his campaign to view those files he lost any credible claims for them to remain sealed, obviously nothing there is classified. Again, this is hypocrisy, as I can guarantee I can find a quote from him about Trump's tax returns.
Post by: sys on May 15, 2020, 10:22:35 PM
the idea that the npr piece or the vox article from a week or so ago were biased against reade is pretty ridiculous
No one made that claim so I have no idea why you brought it up.the notion that trying to corroborate her story or reporting the inability to do so is somehow undue or untoward is borderline insane.Again no one claimed this either.
i have no idea what you were objecting to in that case.
Once he allowed civilians working on his campaign to view those files he lost any credible claims for them to remain sealed, obviously nothing there is classified. Again, this is hypocrisy, as I can guarantee I can find a quote from him about Trump's tax returns.
i didn't say anything about classified information. again, you're off on some tangent i don't understand.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 15, 2020, 10:29:05 PM
re., the senate records, you're making excuses as to why there is no need for them to be publicly released. There are no excuses, he's already allowed hand picked members of the public to read those files, there should be nothing to hide.
Post by: sys on May 15, 2020, 11:12:31 PM
I told you exactly what I objected to, I've told you twice, you made the decision to cut it out. You have the right to ignore my objection to your hypocritical claims, but don't tell me you didn't read it.
i promise you i am not being deliberately obtuse nor am i ignoring your commentary. as nearly as i can summarize your argument it is: "i don't believe reade's accusation of rape and i don't find her to be a credible person; however it is hypocritical and unfair that her allegations were investigated so rigorously that i was able to make that determination."
i do not understand that.
re., the senate records, you're making excuses as to why there is no need for them to be publicly released. There are no excuses, he's already allowed hand picked members of the public to read those files, there should be nothing to hide.
again, i find your logic to be unfollowable. i don't know if your assertion that he allowed some people in his campaign to go through his papers to be true, but assuming it is - you appear to be suggesting that if biden considers it advisable to allow anyone to view his papers, he should be comfortable allowing everyone to do so.
that makes no sense. there is every reason to think that there are things in those papers that he wishes to hide. he chose to hide them years ago when he donated the papers, he reaffirmed that choice when he left the white house and he is doing so again now. he's trying to win the most important election of his life, if there is anything that might damage that chance in those papers, and again, it seems very likely he thinks there is, why in the world would he voluntarily choose to share it now?
knowledgeable people unconnected with his campaign have explained that his papers would not have personnel records. reade herself has stated that she did not file a complaint of sexual assault or rape. accordingly, there is no reason to think there is anything relevant to reade's allegations in those papers.
why, then, should he voluntarily release papers that presumably include information that he thinks might damage his electoral chances when the papers in question are not relevant to reade's accusation?
Post by: MakeItRain on May 15, 2020, 11:54:54 PM
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these articles exist because reporters took her claims seriously and investigated them.
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These articles exist because there was an immediate campaign to discredit the claims. The amount of the scrutiny given her claims is unprecedented. If it's your claim that this scrutiny is due to her claims being taken seriously, then the inverse has to be true. The lack of investigative vigor given to the claims from accusers of other high profile politicians is because the same media didn't take these other claims as seriously. However, they were taken seriously enough to slap the accusations directly on the accused.
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You said that the articles were written because her claims were taken seriously. I showed the juxtaposition of how well her claims were vetted when compared to other high profile accusations. Again if your claim is true, the inverse about the other claims have to be true, unless YOU are claiming there was widespread media bias in the other claims. I was fine with the histories of the other accusers not drug out for public consumption, the same should have happened here.
One thing I'll add that I didn't before but kk kinda did in a different context is that if her claims were taken seriously, the other claims about Biden would be mentioned in every single article that casts doubt on her claims. Neither of them are great victims.
Now for the senate files, you absolutely followed my logic perfectly. So much so in fact that I don't have to summarize it again, you nailed it.
I have two points, one I haven't made yet because I didn't realize it until I read your summation of my other posts.
If we are acknowledging there are damaging things to his candidacy in those files, how in the world can we take anyone's word that the damaging info isn't related to Reade? They are telling you, there's bad stuff in those files, maybe things disqualifying, but not about Reade, and we're just supposed to believe that without proof? That's insane.
If there are damaging things in that file, you are correct he has no obligation to make that info public, it's just that he and the party he represents has spent the last five years arguing for full transparency from a once presidential candidate, now president. That transparency they were seeking was from a private individual. The transparency they are now shielding is from a public servant from when he was an elected official. I know the democrats don't care about hypocrisy, but that's an all timer.
BTW, he did instruct his aides to check those files
https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-refuses-open-senate-papers-accusers-claims-2020-4
That used to be free, now it's behind a paywall, but you can see the details of the report here
https://nypost.com/2020/05/01/joe-bidens-staff-accessed-records-at-university-of-delawares-library/
Post by: sys on May 16, 2020, 12:38:32 AM
One thing I'll add that I didn't before but kk kinda did in a different context is that if her claims were taken seriously, the other claims about Biden would be mentioned in every single article that casts doubt on her claims. Neither of them are great victims.
the accounts of other women were mentioned, extensively, in the npr article and the vox article. the reason they do not feature even more prominently is; 1) because they are categorically different in nature and 2) because they are not in dispute.
regarding your other point, the idea that reade's account has been overinvestigated or that it should be underinvestigated if other women's allegations have been is nonsensical. there is no connection between any other allegation and reade's. there is no connection between biden's guilt or lack thereof and any other person's.
Now for the senate files, you absolutely followed my logic perfectly. So much so in fact that I don't have to summarize it again, you nailed it.
I have two points, one I haven't made yet because I didn't realize it until I read your summation of my other posts.
If there are damaging things in that file, you are correct he has no obligation to make that info public, it's just that he and the party he represents has spent the last five years arguing for full transparency from a once presidential candidate, now president. That transparency they were seeking was from a private individual. The transparency they are now shielding is from a public servant from when he was an elected official. I know the democrats don't care about hypocrisy, but that's an all timer.
i cut out a point to respond to below. regarding the rest, i think we can put it to rest with nothing more than we disagree on the notion that a political candidate should make available whatever information requested if they are accused of anything, by anyone, regardless if it is germane to the accusation.
If we are acknowledging there are damaging things to his candidacy in those files, how in the world can we take anyone's word that the damaging info isn't related to Reade? They are telling you, there's bad stuff in those files, maybe things disqualifying, but not about Reade, and we're just supposed to believe that without proof? That's insane.
because the people are saying that the entire category of information relevant to the accusation is never included in a senator's personal papers and because the accuser herself has stated that she did not file a report that would corroborate her account. it would be a search, in the wrong place, for something that has never been claimed to exist.
Post by: Trim on May 21, 2020, 02:29:38 AM
Post by: porky morgan on May 21, 2020, 10:01:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7s-N2DdE48
United Stateo!
Post by: MakeItRain on May 22, 2020, 10:47:29 AM
https://twitter.com/EddieZipperer/status/1263814598987317248
Post by: star seed 7 on May 22, 2020, 10:50:07 AM
Post by: mocat on May 22, 2020, 10:52:41 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 22, 2020, 11:55:43 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 22, 2020, 12:23:24 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 22, 2020, 12:29:33 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 22, 2020, 12:35:19 PM
The worst part of this are the MAGA roaches crawling out trying to claim some moral high ground, followed closely by the neolibs acting like this is somehow the fault of progressives.Progressives have the greatest dictatorial leanings of any faction of Democrats. So if that’s your self proclaimed high ground, no thanks.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 22, 2020, 12:45:21 PM
The worst part of this are the MAGA roaches crawling out trying to claim some moral high ground, followed closely by the neolibs acting like this is somehow the fault of progressives.
What's the neoliberalism play on this? I hadn't seen that yet.
There are two, it's the progressives fault or it's no big deal. I'll focus on the people blaming progressives because it's surreal
https://twitter.com/Lady_Herbalist/status/1263882373177004033
https://twitter.com/CResisting/status/1263885250935095297
https://twitter.com/DennisPCuddy/status/1263844283414728710
Post by: MakeItRain on May 22, 2020, 12:48:36 PM
The worst part of this are the MAGA roaches crawling out trying to claim some moral high ground, followed closely by the neolibs acting like this is somehow the fault of progressives.Progressives have the greatest dictatorial leanings of any faction of Democrats. So if that’s your self proclaimed high ground, no thanks.
No one's talking about dictatorial leanings, you senile humanity blight, I was talking about how racist you and the rest of you MAGAs are. Keep up gramps.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 22, 2020, 01:03:08 PM
I knew exactly what you were talking about. No one is claiming the high ground dipshit. Just pointing out that Joe Biden just showed exactly who he’s always been.The worst part of this are the MAGA roaches crawling out trying to claim some moral high ground, followed closely by the neolibs acting like this is somehow the fault of progressives.Progressives have the greatest dictatorial leanings of any faction of Democrats. So if that’s your self proclaimed high ground, no thanks.
No one's talking about dictatorial leanings, you senile humanity blight, I was talking about how racist you and the rest of you MAGAs are. Keep up gramps.
Joe is trying to play to the ProgressoNazi’s and guess what? His stripes haven’t changed. It’s the worst of all worlds: The ProgressoNazi’s and the war monger racists.
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 22, 2020, 11:03:21 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 24, 2020, 12:20:29 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/naacp-pushes-back-on-bidens-claim-it-endorsed-him-after-you-aint-black-furor/ar-BB14uNHQ
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The NAACP on Friday pushed back on a claim by presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden that the civil rights organization had endorsed him “every time I’ve run” — stating that the group never endorses any political candidate.
“Yesterday, former Vice President Joe Biden made a comment about the NAACP’s endorsement,” the statement by Derrick Johnson, president and CEO of the NAACP, said. “We want to clarify that the NAACP is a non-partisan organization and does not endorse candidates for political office at any level.”
Post by: Katpappy on May 24, 2020, 10:09:55 PM
https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1263997658508730371
This is indictive of this year's election campaigns; it's going to be a :lol: day & night party.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 27, 2020, 11:16:08 AM
An article by John Gong from the China Global Television Network (A registered foreign agent) weighs in on the matter.
President Xi is going to get his guy one way or the other . . . Xi had no comment on the mail-in voting campaign in China, but wished his good friend, Joe Biden the best, and hoped that the Bank of China's many billions of dollars invested in the Biden's would pay off over the long term.
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-05-21/Denial-of-absentee-ballots-is-a-denial-of-democracy--QFUihT64OQ/index.html
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 27, 2020, 11:17:40 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 27, 2020, 11:18:46 AM
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edpa/pr/us-attorney-william-m-mcswain-announces-charges-and-guilty-plea-former-philadelphia
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 27, 2020, 11:27:16 AM
Why would the trumpers be scared of this? He is a massive cheat, they should be able to whip ass at this scam.
No way man, when it comes to: Vote early, vote often, vote 3 times if you're dead . . . Useful Idiot Nation has had that on lockdown for decades.
Got at least one Dem hero elected to the Oval Office, and got at least two more set on their path to the Oval Office.
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2020, 12:10:42 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 27, 2020, 12:16:30 PM
Dax, chill. Trump's going to win.
Ummm , that and with a former Obama economic adviser predicting a substantial economic recovery in the days leading into the election only means that the #FearPorn is going to get ratcheted up about 5000% more, which in turn will only strengthen the call for vote harvesting mail-in voting.
Post by: LickNeckey on May 27, 2020, 12:18:44 PM
Appreciate the ground work you are laying here...
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 27, 2020, 12:21:25 PM
Why would the trumpers be scared of this? He is a massive cheat, they should be able to whip ass at this scam.
No way man, when it comes to: Vote early, vote often, vote 3 times if you're dead . . . Useful Idiot Nation has had that on lockdown for decades.
Got at least one Dem hero elected to the Oval Office, and got at least two more set on their path to the Oval Office.
That is a loser's take. Don't be a loser.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 27, 2020, 12:22:05 PM
This guy is no loser.
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2020, 12:24:04 PM
Dax, chill. Trump's going to win.
Ummm , that and with a former Obama economic adviser predicting a substantial economic recovery in the days leading into the election only means that the #FearPorn is going to get ratcheted up about 5000% more, which in turn will only strengthen the call for vote harvesting mail-in voting.
Ok, but trump's still going to win. Did you see over the weekend that lady try to have who-knows-what happen to the black bird-watcher by calling cops on him, or that cop killing the black guy in minnesota? That's america, trump's got it in the bag.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 27, 2020, 12:57:24 PM
Dax, chill. Trump's going to win.
Ummm , that and with a former Obama economic adviser predicting a substantial economic recovery in the days leading into the election only means that the #FearPorn is going to get ratcheted up about 5000% more, which in turn will only strengthen the call for vote harvesting mail-in voting.
Ok, but trump's still going to win. Did you see over the weekend that lady try to have who-knows-what happen to the black bird-watcher by calling cops on him, or that cop killing the black guy in minnesota? That's america, trump's got it in the bag.
Yeah, I saw that, I also saw video of black people beating up elderly white people in nursing homes, or read the article of a recent murder of a white woman by two black men locally, or a recent kidnapping attempt locally by a black guy against a white woman who was thankfully saved from certain sexual assault/torture/murder by cops who saw the attempt real time.
But I'm smart enough to understand that we have way too much violence in our country, have for years and that bad people do bad things irrespective of the color of their skin.
So with that in mind for this thread, we have Joe Biden who was literally one of the leading advocates of incarceration nation which disproportionately impacted people of color. We also have Joe Biden who was a champion of monetary/property confiscation nation by law enforcement which disproportionately targeted certain demographics of white Americans and people of color under the flimsiest of circumstantial "evidence". We have Joe Biden who has spent 40 years in Washington, never met a war he didn't want, has been wrong about everything and for the most part has been nothing but a weight on the backs of minority populations for decades.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2020, 01:06:13 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 27, 2020, 01:09:47 PM
Dax, chill. Trump's going to win.
Ummm , that and with a former Obama economic adviser predicting a substantial economic recovery in the days leading into the election only means that the #FearPorn is going to get ratcheted up about 5000% more, which in turn will only strengthen the call for vote harvesting mail-in voting.
Ok, but trump's still going to win. Did you see over the weekend that lady try to have who-knows-what happen to the black bird-watcher by calling cops on him, or that cop killing the black guy in minnesota? That's america, trump's got it in the bag.
Yeah, I saw that, I also saw video of black people beating up elderly white people in nursing homes, or read the article of a recent murder of a white woman by two black men locally, or a recent kidnapping attempt locally by a black guy against a white woman who was thankfully saved from certain sexual assault/torture/murder by cops who saw the attempt real time.
But I'm smart enough to understand that we have way too much violence in our country, have for years and that bad people do bad things irrespective of the color of their skin.
So with that in mind for this thread, we have Joe Biden who was literally one of the leading advocates of incarceration nation which disproportionately impacted people of color. We also have Joe Biden who was a champion of monetary/property confiscation nation by law enforcement which disproportionately targeted certain demographics of white Americans and people of color under the flimsiest of circumstantial "evidence". We have Joe Biden who has spent 40 years in Washington, never met a war he didn't want, has been wrong about everything and for the most part has been nothing but a weight on the backs of minority populations for decades.
Your stories also point to Trump being more likely to win, dax.
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2020, 01:10:20 PM
Dax, chill. Trump's going to win.
Ummm , that and with a former Obama economic adviser predicting a substantial economic recovery in the days leading into the election only means that the #FearPorn is going to get ratcheted up about 5000% more, which in turn will only strengthen the call for vote harvesting mail-in voting.
Ok, but trump's still going to win. Did you see over the weekend that lady try to have who-knows-what happen to the black bird-watcher by calling cops on him, or that cop killing the black guy in minnesota? That's america, trump's got it in the bag.
Yeah, I saw that, I also saw video of black people beating up elderly white people in nursing homes, or read the article of a recent murder of a white woman by two black men locally, or a recent kidnapping attempt locally by a black guy against a white woman who was thankfully saved from certain sexual assault/torture/murder by cops who saw the attempt real time.
But I'm smart enough to understand that we have way too much violence in our country, have for years and that bad people do bad things irrespective of the color of their skin.
So with that in mind for this thread, we have Joe Biden who was literally one of the leading advocates of incarceration nation which disproportionately impacted people of color. We also have Joe Biden who was a champion of monetary/property confiscation nation by law enforcement which disproportionately targeted certain demographics of white Americans and people of color under the flimsiest of circumstantial "evidence". We have Joe Biden who has spent 40 years in Washington, never met a war he didn't want, has been wrong about everything and for the most part has been nothing but a weight on the backs of minority populations for decades.
So you've already got all the white people who hate black people that will see to it trump wins, and trump might run up the score if he can get black people to go for all that stuff you posted. You can start partying right now.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 27, 2020, 01:19:47 PM
Dax, chill. Trump's going to win.
Ummm , that and with a former Obama economic adviser predicting a substantial economic recovery in the days leading into the election only means that the #FearPorn is going to get ratcheted up about 5000% more, which in turn will only strengthen the call for vote harvesting mail-in voting.
Ok, but trump's still going to win. Did you see over the weekend that lady try to have who-knows-what happen to the black bird-watcher by calling cops on him, or that cop killing the black guy in minnesota? That's america, trump's got it in the bag.
Yeah, I saw that, I also saw video of black people beating up elderly white people in nursing homes, or read the article of a recent murder of a white woman by two black men locally, or a recent kidnapping attempt locally by a black guy against a white woman who was thankfully saved from certain sexual assault/torture/murder by cops who saw the attempt real time.
But I'm smart enough to understand that we have way too much violence in our country, have for years and that bad people do bad things irrespective of the color of their skin.
So with that in mind for this thread, we have Joe Biden who was literally one of the leading advocates of incarceration nation which disproportionately impacted people of color. We also have Joe Biden who was a champion of monetary/property confiscation nation by law enforcement which disproportionately targeted certain demographics of white Americans and people of color under the flimsiest of circumstantial "evidence". We have Joe Biden who has spent 40 years in Washington, never met a war he didn't want, has been wrong about everything and for the most part has been nothing but a weight on the backs of minority populations for decades.
So you've already got all the white people who hate black people that will see to it trump wins, and trump might run up the score if he can get black people to go for all that stuff you posted. You can start partying right now.
If Trump can win by getting about .3% of the white voting population to vote for him, then you've got a point.
I'll presume you've eschewed the privileged life that you clearly hate so very very much, Trim.
Oh, and remember, inside every Progressive, is a fascist trying to get out.
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2020, 01:34:42 PM
Dax, chill. Trump's going to win.
Ummm , that and with a former Obama economic adviser predicting a substantial economic recovery in the days leading into the election only means that the #FearPorn is going to get ratcheted up about 5000% more, which in turn will only strengthen the call for vote harvesting mail-in voting.
Ok, but trump's still going to win. Did you see over the weekend that lady try to have who-knows-what happen to the black bird-watcher by calling cops on him, or that cop killing the black guy in minnesota? That's america, trump's got it in the bag.
Yeah, I saw that, I also saw video of black people beating up elderly white people in nursing homes, or read the article of a recent murder of a white woman by two black men locally, or a recent kidnapping attempt locally by a black guy against a white woman who was thankfully saved from certain sexual assault/torture/murder by cops who saw the attempt real time.
But I'm smart enough to understand that we have way too much violence in our country, have for years and that bad people do bad things irrespective of the color of their skin.
So with that in mind for this thread, we have Joe Biden who was literally one of the leading advocates of incarceration nation which disproportionately impacted people of color. We also have Joe Biden who was a champion of monetary/property confiscation nation by law enforcement which disproportionately targeted certain demographics of white Americans and people of color under the flimsiest of circumstantial "evidence". We have Joe Biden who has spent 40 years in Washington, never met a war he didn't want, has been wrong about everything and for the most part has been nothing but a weight on the backs of minority populations for decades.
So you've already got all the white people who hate black people that will see to it trump wins, and trump might run up the score if he can get black people to go for all that stuff you posted. You can start partying right now.
If Trump can win by getting about .3% of the white voting population to vote for him, then you've got a point.
I'll presume you've eschewed the privileged life that you clearly hate so very very much, Trim.
Oh, and remember, inside every Progressive, is a fascist trying to get out.
Congrats on the W, and please livestream your election night pak.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 27, 2020, 01:48:06 PM
Even his gE signature outside of the bat crap stuff here in the pit, is complaining about KU. Find some happiness somewhere.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 27, 2020, 02:53:31 PM
My God, dax is literally the world's biggest crybaby. It's typical MAGA to rough ridin' complain about everything, they're the most miserable people on the planet, but y'alls homeboy is so extra.
Even his gE signature outside of the bat crap stuff here in the pit, is complaining about KU. Find some happiness somewhere.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You quite literally bitch about everything, and you think every wrong against a person of color is some sort of vast white conspiracy. It's amazing to read and watch unfold nearly every day.
In terms of "special" I feel the same way about the ProgressoNazi's that you support and how they're outraged about everything all the time.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 27, 2020, 03:26:36 PM
All your party had to do was run a normalish slightly left of center younger person and you would have walked away with this thing and likely gotten my vote as well.Dax, chill. Trump's going to win.
Ummm , that and with a former Obama economic adviser predicting a substantial economic recovery in the days leading into the election only means that the #FearPorn is going to get ratcheted up about 5000% more, which in turn will only strengthen the call for vote harvesting mail-in voting.
Ok, but trump's still going to win. Did you see over the weekend that lady try to have who-knows-what happen to the black bird-watcher by calling cops on him, or that cop killing the black guy in minnesota? That's america, trump's got it in the bag.
Yeah, I saw that, I also saw video of black people beating up elderly white people in nursing homes, or read the article of a recent murder of a white woman by two black men locally, or a recent kidnapping attempt locally by a black guy against a white woman who was thankfully saved from certain sexual assault/torture/murder by cops who saw the attempt real time.
But I'm smart enough to understand that we have way too much violence in our country, have for years and that bad people do bad things irrespective of the color of their skin.
So with that in mind for this thread, we have Joe Biden who was literally one of the leading advocates of incarceration nation which disproportionately impacted people of color. We also have Joe Biden who was a champion of monetary/property confiscation nation by law enforcement which disproportionately targeted certain demographics of white Americans and people of color under the flimsiest of circumstantial "evidence". We have Joe Biden who has spent 40 years in Washington, never met a war he didn't want, has been wrong about everything and for the most part has been nothing but a weight on the backs of minority populations for decades.
So you've already got all the white people who hate black people that will see to it trump wins, and trump might run up the score if he can get black people to go for all that stuff you posted. You can start partying right now.
If Trump can win by getting about .3% of the white voting population to vote for him, then you've got a point.
I'll presume you've eschewed the privileged life that you clearly hate so very very much, Trim.
Oh, and remember, inside every Progressive, is a fascist trying to get out.
Congrats on the W, and please livestream your election night pak.
But instead you’re going the super old mega corrupt war mongering racist route who is selling out to the ProgressoNazi wing of the party on many issues to try and get votes.
Post by: CHONGS on May 27, 2020, 03:28:50 PM
Oh dax you know your vote was never in doubt, we know your vote was never in doubt. Why do you keep lying about this? For the lulz I guess?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2020, 03:37:35 PM
Post by: Trim on May 27, 2020, 03:41:48 PM
All your party had to do was run a normalish slightly left of center younger person and you would have walked away with this thing and likely gotten my vote as well.
But instead you’re going the super old mega corrupt war mongering racist route who is selling out to the ProgressoNazi wing of the party on many issues to try and get votes.
I would def rock with a party that nominates normalish center younger persons. Really, just the normalish and center would work.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 27, 2020, 03:50:11 PM
Oh dax you know your vote was never in doubt, we know your vote was never in doubt. Why do you keep lying about this? For the lulz I guess?
ChinStalker, you cut and paste this from a saved document from Word 2010, right?
If you want to know who I will be marking off between Tuberville/Sessions in the run off/general . . . that would be Doug Jones. I'll happily consider and many times will vote for moderate D's early and often.
Post by: sys on May 27, 2020, 04:37:09 PM
He's literally asking for Obama lol
heh.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 27, 2020, 05:26:29 PM
The amazing thing about it is, the vast majority of media was so soft on the dude, he knew he could get away with it . . . and the vast majority of Useful Idiots even now, can't even begin to comprehend how mumped up it was.
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 27, 2020, 05:27:20 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 27, 2020, 05:31:12 PM
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Post by: steve dave on May 28, 2020, 12:01:23 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 28, 2020, 12:52:25 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 28, 2020, 01:26:18 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 28, 2020, 03:19:23 PM
Bill Clinton-Chinese (Lippo Group)
Hillary Clinton-Russians (Uraniaum One and $240 million in Russian cash to the fake Clinton Foundation)
Now Joe Biden: Owned out right by the Chinese Communist Party
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 29, 2020, 04:49:45 PM
https://theweek.com/speedreads/916926/amy-klobuchar-didnt-prosecute-officer-center-george-floyds-death-left-case-successor
Post by: sys on June 02, 2020, 11:07:34 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1268006529678049281
Post by: steve dave on June 03, 2020, 06:24:31 AM
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Post by: cfbandyman on June 03, 2020, 08:10:35 AM
Post by: chum1 on June 04, 2020, 11:51:42 AM
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The main consideration, per one source involved in the internal conversations, is "Can we make sure the president has the event he's hoping for?"
...
Trump wants a "gathering of people like in 2016" — and a contrast with more cautious Democrats, one source says.
"He wants people there, excited, the energy and enthusiasm.
"He doesn't want people to be standing six feet apart, socially distant, not being able to celebrate with people his renomination.
https://twitter.com/alaynatreene/status/1268555816979890176
Post by: Institutional Control on June 05, 2020, 11:48:27 AM
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 05, 2020, 02:30:09 PM
He's literally asking for Obama lol
I miss you, seven.
Post by: sys on June 06, 2020, 09:10:27 PM
https://twitter.com/evanasmith/status/1269433478908710912
Post by: sys on June 06, 2020, 09:35:15 PM
https://twitter.com/D_jeneration/status/1269441078815531010
Post by: steve dave on June 06, 2020, 09:45:36 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on June 06, 2020, 10:10:56 PM
Post by: sys on June 06, 2020, 11:38:25 PM
Because I live in a swing state, I'm going to hold my nose and vote for the Democrat listed on the presidential ballot.
i appreciate that too, mir. i think it important that the country send as strong a message as possible that anti-(small d) democratic, demagogic politicians will not be rewarded.
even if it has taken far too long for that message to be sent.
Post by: MakeItRain on June 09, 2020, 01:01:38 PM
https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1270345913068904448
Post by: catastrophe on June 09, 2020, 01:15:58 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 09, 2020, 01:20:51 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 09, 2020, 01:21:22 PM
down to 2 incredibly olds and biden wins because trump out olds him.
what a gross mess for our country
Post by: MakeItRain on June 09, 2020, 08:58:50 PM
Now that Trump is reduced to retweeting Q accounts, Biden dances home with this thing.
down to 2 incredibly olds and biden wins because trump out olds him.
what a gross mess for our country
Did you miss the messages about the republithugs stealing elections? You think Brian Kemp is going to be the only gov who cheats?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 11, 2020, 09:15:19 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 11, 2020, 09:41:44 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 11, 2020, 09:54:19 PM
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 11, 2020, 10:28:43 PM
I wasn’t going to vote, but I’m officially going to vote for Biden now. I’ve legit had enough. I hate that it’s come to this, but I’m just hoping his cabinet isn’t complete dog crap, because there’s no way he can run a country. So sick of the hate in 2020. I’m over it. Bye Trump.
You’re making the right choice, friend! :cheers:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 11, 2020, 11:05:43 PM
Post by: sys on June 11, 2020, 11:34:30 PM
I wasn’t going to vote, but I’m officially going to vote for Biden now. I’ve legit had enough. I hate that it’s come to this, but I’m just hoping his cabinet isn’t complete dog crap, because there’s no way he can run a country. So sick of the hate in 2020. I’m over it. Bye Trump.
wackycat, that's wonderful. thank you.
Post by: wetwillie on June 11, 2020, 11:37:24 PM
Post by: Spracne on June 11, 2020, 11:37:44 PM
Love you, Friends!Peer pressured into groupthink. Sad!
Post by: michigancat on June 11, 2020, 11:42:28 PM
https://twitter.com/tommyxtopher/status/1271141922879557633
Post by: Institutional Control on June 17, 2020, 12:44:21 PM
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Post by: DaBigTrain on June 17, 2020, 12:49:33 PM
Post by: Trim on June 17, 2020, 12:52:21 PM
Post by: fun muffin on June 17, 2020, 01:03:54 PM
Biden did a good job taking about Trump being a racist with his mask hanging off his ear
Joe "You Ain't Black" Biden
Post by: star seed 7 on June 17, 2020, 02:12:50 PM
I think we've got a couple different interpretations of "General" going on here.
:lol:
Post by: steve dave on June 19, 2020, 08:23:26 AM
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1273738139916361728
Post by: steve dave on June 19, 2020, 08:32:31 AM
https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1273971050456518665
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 19, 2020, 09:48:20 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 19, 2020, 10:04:53 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 19, 2020, 10:05:19 AM
Post by: catastrophe on June 19, 2020, 10:05:26 AM
Post by: chum1 on June 19, 2020, 10:10:59 AM
It will get closer when they start campaigning.
I don't think that's a given. Outlook for coronavirus and economy isn't too rosy.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 19, 2020, 10:22:04 AM
What are the latest poll numbers from the free news American liberated press, Dax?Shitty and very dumb post
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 19, 2020, 10:36:25 AM
It will get closer when they start campaigning.
I don't think that's a given. Outlook for coronavirus and economy isn't too rosy.
A lot of conservatives haven't figured out that they hate Biden for reasons unknown yet. Just give it time.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 19, 2020, 10:54:48 AM
It will get closer when they start campaigning.
I don't think that's a given. Outlook for coronavirus and economy isn't too rosy.
A lot of conservatives haven't figured out that they hate Biden for reasons unknown yet. Just give it time.
How many servers does gE have?
Post by: CHONGS on June 19, 2020, 11:29:47 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 19, 2020, 01:38:03 PM
https://twitter.com/adamparkhomenko/status/1273999385823772672
Post by: 8manpick on June 19, 2020, 01:57:32 PM
One I thinkGet the bleach bit ready
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 19, 2020, 02:11:33 PM
Pretty powerful. Dax don’t watch it will only make you :curse:
https://twitter.com/adamparkhomenko/status/1273999385823772672
Glad I am on your mind 24/7/365 Da Big Psycho (Stalker)
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 19, 2020, 02:19:14 PM
I told you not to watch it!Pretty powerful. Dax don’t watch it will only make you :curse:
https://twitter.com/adamparkhomenko/status/1273999385823772672
Glad I am on your mind 24/7/365 Da Big Psycho (Stalker)
Post by: Katpappy on June 19, 2020, 02:58:51 PM
christ, the dead body the dems trotted out is getting to a margin of error and electoral college BS proof lead. americans really hate the crap out of trump.
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1273738139916361728
:ROFL:
Post by: MakeItRain on June 24, 2020, 02:00:31 AM
It will get closer when they start campaigning.
He's already spending a fuckton in battleground states, he has multiple ads here running each and every newscast. I can't imagine what his spending is like in the larger battleground states.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 24, 2020, 11:15:15 AM
Post by: steve dave on June 25, 2020, 06:19:22 PM
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 25, 2020, 09:33:30 PM
KSU 38
NEBRASKA 17
Post by: sys on July 01, 2020, 01:27:03 AM
https://twitter.com/JeffreyGoldberg/status/1277940417745555456
Post by: chum1 on July 01, 2020, 07:50:24 AM
there are obviously very conventional explanations for trump's poor numbers - recessions and state failures are not usually good for incumbents. but i think this is also relevant. no one is shocked, titillated or intrigued by trump anymore. we've tired of him.
https://twitter.com/JeffreyGoldberg/status/1277940417745555456
He has a very limited number of tricks. The boy who cried CARAVANS.
Post by: sys on July 01, 2020, 03:30:49 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 01, 2020, 03:35:12 PM
Post by: chum1 on July 01, 2020, 03:49:46 PM
Post by: sys on July 02, 2020, 06:55:50 PM
Post by: sys on July 02, 2020, 11:16:07 PM
https://twitter.com/MonmouthPoll/status/1278763467449733120
Post by: steve dave on July 02, 2020, 11:20:44 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 04, 2020, 03:14:40 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 04, 2020, 03:35:22 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 04, 2020, 08:10:38 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on July 05, 2020, 10:20:49 PM
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1279575273365594112
Biden Bots losing their crap about this on twitter was the highlight of my weekend.
Post by: sys on July 06, 2020, 01:34:05 PM
https://twitter.com/CristobalJAlex/status/1280137761295654912
Post by: chum1 on July 07, 2020, 04:45:10 PM
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1280608542882398208
Post by: Trim on July 07, 2020, 05:08:47 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 07, 2020, 05:15:16 PM
there are obviously very conventional explanations for trump's poor numbers - recessions and state failures are not usually good for incumbents. but i think this is also relevant. no one is shocked, titillated or intrigued by trump anymore. we've tired of him.
https://twitter.com/JeffreyGoldberg/status/1277940417745555456
Boom:
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This might have been effective were statue supporters a major voting bloc. But with more than 120,000 Americans dead from a pandemic, current COVID-19 rates exploding, and 40 million people having lost their jobs, it’s a little hard to imagine that the elevation of the problems of dead Confederates over those of living Americans is going to excite a great many voters. At a time when the country is experiencing not just the pandemic and the resulting economic collapse but also a genuine outpouring of anger about racial inequities, the president is not merely swimming against the tide of public opinion; he is doing so on a matter that seems like a non sequitur. And it’s hard to revive interest in yourself by spouting non sequiturs
Post by: chum1 on July 07, 2020, 05:17:05 PM
It’s gotta cause some introspection when one sees so plainly that their base is “non-college whites.’
I always wonder why people here like dax, KSUW, etc. don't see that and think, "wait a sec. Maybe I'm doing something wrong here."
Post by: Spracne on July 07, 2020, 05:18:53 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 07, 2020, 05:53:51 PM
Post by: Spracne on July 07, 2020, 05:57:37 PM
Equally elitist to measure a man's worth by the amount of money they make :th_twocents:
No sir, those are just facts, Jack.
Post by: sys on July 08, 2020, 04:11:14 PM
https://twitter.com/JamesSurowiecki/status/1280967930847657986
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 08, 2020, 04:19:27 PM
Unfortunately, as we're starting to peel back on who will likely actually be in charge in the West Wing. The Marxist-Leninist-Maoist arm of the DNC may not be very happy. It's a list that reads like a whose-who of current "consultants" (The new name for lobbyists) plugged into a veritable potpourri of mega-banks, mega-corps, tech oligarchs, defense contractors and venture capitalists.
Who will win out?
Post by: sys on July 08, 2020, 04:51:05 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 08, 2020, 05:04:37 PM
marxist-leninist-maoist joe biden is even funnier than trump thinktanking a run on "muh statues"
While I agree the whole statues thing is dumb and the easily propagandized dimwits that make up the majority of both parties will either be completely enraged until they're told about the next thing to be enraged about. Or they'll think it's great.
But that can't touch the real world hilarity of Joe attempting to crap all over the political animal he's always been in order to appease ProgNazi's now entrenched in the DNC.
It's even more hilarious now that we're starting to see who is emerging as the likely policy wonks that will actually run Joe's administration. Again, as of now it reads like a whose-who if beltway types inextricably joined at the hip of a cross section of big business and big finance. Everything that at least the ProgNazi wing of the DNC, supposedly hates.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 08, 2020, 05:08:42 PM
pretty much.
https://twitter.com/JamesSurowiecki/status/1280967930847657986
When that doesn't work, they will start flying the confederate flag at their rallies.
Post by: Institutional Control on July 09, 2020, 01:55:05 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 09, 2020, 08:24:37 PM
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/06/26/1_in_5_ballots_rejected_as_fraud_is_charged_in_nj_mail-in_election_143551.html
Post by: chum1 on July 12, 2020, 09:57:38 AM
Post by: sys on July 13, 2020, 02:23:36 PM
https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1282737152091197441
Post by: Trim on July 13, 2020, 02:52:34 PM
another devastating attack. date the comeback to 7-13-2020.
https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1282737152091197441
:lol:
Post by: sys on July 13, 2020, 04:32:13 PM
https://twitter.com/posglen/status/1282777432139931649
Post by: michigancat on July 13, 2020, 08:59:07 PM
i should maybe put this in the predictit thread. there's probably going to be some opportunities for easy money in state bets in the time span between election day and the when the vote count is final.Do you listen to Election Profit Makers? Seems like you would enjoy it.
https://twitter.com/posglen/status/1282777432139931649
Post by: sys on July 13, 2020, 09:15:47 PM
Post by: CHONGS on July 14, 2020, 08:42:04 PM
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Bye Jeff.
Post by: sys on July 14, 2020, 09:25:26 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 14, 2020, 09:29:36 PM
https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1283217400406695936?s=21
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 14, 2020, 09:44:20 PM
Post by: CHONGS on July 14, 2020, 10:37:31 PM
A vote against Tuberville is a vote for the most corrupt party in human history.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 14, 2020, 11:08:22 PM
My Guy Doug Jones, the pride of Mountain Brook, AL, will beat Tommy Carpetbagger Tuberville
Post by: chum1 on July 15, 2020, 09:05:38 AM
https://twitter.com/aldemocrats/status/1283240632409096192
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 15, 2020, 09:10:04 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 15, 2020, 10:10:30 AM
Post by: bucket on July 15, 2020, 10:18:32 AM
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1279575273365594112
https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1283399515719032832
Post by: CHONGS on July 15, 2020, 12:19:53 PM
I wish to see the policies of Nancy Pelosi prevail over conservative Alabama principles.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 15, 2020, 12:48:14 PM
(Also seems angry as well)
Post by: sys on July 15, 2020, 01:37:08 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 15, 2020, 02:41:19 PM
Post by: CHONGS on July 15, 2020, 02:41:57 PM
I support a terrible Senator who is just a Super Liberal puppet for Schumer & Pelosi.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 15, 2020, 02:44:42 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 15, 2020, 02:53:58 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on July 15, 2020, 03:12:32 PM
It's like every one of their ads just say "Nancy Pelosi", "china", and "I approved this message".
Post by: star seed 7 on July 15, 2020, 03:15:45 PM
Post by: Trim on July 15, 2020, 03:22:10 PM
Is this where we talk about those very very bad Kansas political ads?
No. This thread is for the General Election between Biden and Trump. It's a sequel to the 2020 presidential candidate 'crats thread, that was for Biden vs. Bernie and a bunch of other people.
Here's a thread for 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff: https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=41449.0
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 15, 2020, 03:53:04 PM
Is this where we talk about those very very bad Kansas political ads? Are they all battling for the same thing as Bob "electrify the wall" hamilton, plumber?
It's like every one of their ads just say "Nancy Pelosi", "china", and "I approved this message".
Marshall has an ad talking about how Hamilton endangered people's lives by having "an illegal" work for him who went into their homes to work on their plumbing. The party really isn't salvageable at this point. They need to go down in flames.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 15, 2020, 04:37:29 PM
Is this where we talk about those very very bad Kansas political ads? Are they all battling for the same thing as Bob "electrify the wall" hamilton, plumber?
It's like every one of their ads just say "Nancy Pelosi", "china", and "I approved this message".
Marshall has an ad talking about how Hamilton endangered people's lives by having "an illegal" work for him who went into their homes to work on their plumbing. The party really isn't salvageable at this point. They need to go down in flames.
I just received a random campaign text message with this video. It came with a message that said "Bob Hamilton is not who he says he is. Watch this video to see how Hamilton helped give away a Kansas job to a criminal illegal alien."
And then of course "Reply STOP to Opt Out"
I never Opted in. :frown:
Post by: CHONGS on July 15, 2020, 06:01:14 PM
I believe in New York values, Chicago values, liberal Democrat values and want to stop the best president of my lifetime.
Post by: sys on July 15, 2020, 08:35:28 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 15, 2020, 08:44:06 PM
I'm very stalkerish
Post by: MakeItRain on July 15, 2020, 08:47:14 PM
keeping your fired former campaign manager on in a subordinate role doesn't seem super smart.
When things like this happen i wonder how he manages to find someone who's even a bigger sycophant than the person he has fired. Somehow manages to do it every single time.
Post by: sys on July 17, 2020, 01:15:07 PM
https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1284185103036493834
Post by: chum1 on July 22, 2020, 09:11:18 AM
https://twitter.com/paulwaldman1/status/1285924780986728448
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 22, 2020, 09:31:16 AM
Post by: chum1 on July 22, 2020, 09:50:07 AM
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Post by: CHONGS on July 22, 2020, 07:49:29 PM
Quote from: The next senator from the great state of Alabama
The difference is, he takes his marching orders from the Democratic side ... and I stand with President Trump. So, you know, if you think about it, that pretty much tells most of the people in Alabama, all the voters, what they need to know.
Can't argue with that.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 22, 2020, 09:52:34 PM
Dax getting together with his friends to GAF about "you ain't black."
(https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2019/02/15/18/07/ostfildern-3999000_960_720.jpg)
chum1 every time even the most inconsequential slight of his guy Joe Biden is whispered . . .
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Post by: DaBigTrain on July 22, 2020, 10:20:48 PM
Post by: chum1 on July 23, 2020, 09:24:39 AM
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1285826007023460355
https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1286303699690823682
https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1286290926751686657
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 23, 2020, 09:50:01 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 23, 2020, 09:56:06 AM
ProgFascist Media: Enabling the (white middle and upper middle class) anarchists (who hide behind their mommies)
Post by: steve dave on July 23, 2020, 01:10:41 PM
:sdeek:
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 23, 2020, 01:22:08 PM
Post by: steve dave on July 23, 2020, 01:52:47 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on July 26, 2020, 01:59:53 PM
https://nypost.com/2020/07/26/trump-rips-joe-biden-for-calling-arizona-an-important-city/
Post by: steve dave on July 30, 2020, 07:59:05 PM
https://twitter.com/dril/status/841892608788041732
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Post by: Phil Titola on July 30, 2020, 08:24:22 PM
https://twitter.com/cnnpolitics/status/1288998586458546177That tweet painted a very lol picture in my mind.
https://twitter.com/dril/status/841892608788041732
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Post by: nicname on July 31, 2020, 01:47:51 AM
For @makeitrain
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Post by: nicname on July 31, 2020, 01:58:47 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 31, 2020, 07:34:37 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on July 31, 2020, 12:50:26 PM
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Won't be voting green this year
Post by: Katpappy on July 31, 2020, 01:14:33 PM
[youtube] https://youtu.be/OX8zfNcjPEA[/youtube]
My thoughts exactly.
Post by: sys on August 04, 2020, 12:56:17 PM
Post by: Katpappy on August 04, 2020, 10:36:03 PM
https://twitter.com/billscher/status/1290696714341556229
I'll tell ya, those McCain girls got me all sexed up. Wonder how well they aged.
Post by: nicname on August 05, 2020, 04:26:41 AM
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020
Post by: nicname on August 05, 2020, 04:29:54 AM
This is kind of neat. Political compass map project of a bunch of pres candidates.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200805/db2ccb4a7ad625ca3cd0c80c7223b9f4.jpg)
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 05, 2020, 09:04:37 PM
This is kind of neat. Political compass map project of a bunch of pres candidates.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200805/db2ccb4a7ad625ca3cd0c80c7223b9f4.jpg)
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020
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Stick with it, the payoff is at 40 seconds
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2020, 10:27:37 PM
https://twitter.com/thefirstontv/status/1291070009452703744?s=21
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 05, 2020, 10:35:57 PM
Meanwhile ProgFascist Nation focuses on the rough ridin' Russians. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2020, 10:40:51 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 05, 2020, 10:47:48 PM
Susan, like Hillary isn't happy unless the bombs are falling.
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 05, 2020, 11:06:31 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 05, 2020, 11:08:46 PM
Very on brand for dax to call a black woman hitler.
:lol: :lol: :lol: I could have called anyone of any other color Hitler and you wouldn't have GAF. But because I called quite literally one of the biggiest war mongers to ever hold the seat of NSA Hitler, and just because she happens to be black, Board Lunatic shows up immediately and thinks its about race.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2020, 11:16:58 PM
SocialistsYou’re my boy and BFF, but sometimes you act like since I took a minimal stimulus check during a furlough for my fam, I should accept this model. I honestly don’t and want to help everyone I can. I love that this is your comeback at times for being a semi successful adult, who lost his job for a bit due to a pandemic. I’m happy we have a relief fund for emergencies and I got some of my tax dollars back, but I would never want to lean on it for the rest of my life, like many are trying to do. That’s the difference.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 05, 2020, 11:26:17 PM
Don't call people hitler, dax. Particularly people from races and nationalities who were persecuted by hitler. I would think this would go without saying, but you're a proven giant sack of crap, so I guess it does need to be said and repeated apparently.
When someone is responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of people, and the refugee'ing of millions of people, and that someone has advocated for and continues to advocate for the United States to be engaged in perpetual war around the globe, they deserve ever label of that type that can be thought up.
In terms of the gaint sack of crap part, I'll presume you were looking in a mirror when you typed that.
Post by: sys on August 06, 2020, 12:13:03 AM
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1291111736167211008
Post by: MakeItRain on August 06, 2020, 12:22:51 AM
Ppl call Trump Hitler and he’s a giant sack of crap, but is nowhere close. 2016 mumped people’s mindsets on the term.
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Well I haven't. That being said Godwin's Law has been around since 1990. Here's what Godwin has to say himself about comparing trump to hitler.
https://www.rstreet.org/2018/06/25/godwins-law-in-the-age-of-trump/
Post by: nicname on August 06, 2020, 12:31:17 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 06, 2020, 07:33:22 AM
Exactly! Who will be in charge for real?
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Post by: michigancat on August 06, 2020, 08:09:45 AM
this is well done and i hope they cut it down a little and put a version of it on tv. if living in fresno has taught me anything, it's that non-college males like cars and taking care of their cars and talking about cars.I mean they did hire that cancelled Shor guy's company
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1291111736167211008
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2020, 08:18:57 AM
SMDH . . . Go Green! (We're exempt)
Post by: sys on August 06, 2020, 08:49:56 AM
I mean they did hire that cancelled Shor guy's company
yeah, but that's the company that cancelled shor.
Post by: michigancat on August 06, 2020, 08:58:46 AM
I mean they did hire that cancelled Shor guy's company
yeah, but that's the company that cancelled shor.
maybe the biden campaign told them to cancel him so they could hire him on the cheap! cut out the middle man
Post by: sys on August 06, 2020, 09:20:03 AM
Post by: chum1 on August 06, 2020, 08:23:40 PM
Post by: wetwillie on August 06, 2020, 08:29:46 PM
Post by: bucket on August 06, 2020, 09:03:50 PM
Has any more progress been made on Biden’s likely VP?
We should find out tomorrow, right?
Post by: wetwillie on August 06, 2020, 09:13:52 PM
Post by: sys on August 06, 2020, 09:16:42 PM
We should find out tomorrow, right?
not the sort of thing normally announced on a friday.
Post by: nicname on August 06, 2020, 09:20:05 PM
We should find out tomorrow, right?
not the sort of thing normally announced on a friday.
I wonder if it’s like big time college basketball coaching hires. Like, if you’re hiring Bob Huggins you make it a real big deal on a Tuesday or something, but if you’re hiring oscar you make sure hardly anyone notices.
Post by: steve dave on August 06, 2020, 09:25:14 PM
https://twitter.com/mcpli/status/1291441736116514816
the stripes get me so hornt
Post by: steve dave on August 06, 2020, 09:26:57 PM
Post by: wetwillie on August 06, 2020, 09:28:38 PM
Post by: bucket on August 06, 2020, 09:32:49 PM
eff if I know, but my limited research shows Susan Rice or Harris.
I don't expect Harris. It sounds like he and the voters hate her.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 06, 2020, 09:34:02 PM
Post by: steve dave on August 06, 2020, 09:34:18 PM
How sure are we that Biden is still even alive?
I don't think a biden corpse polls much differently tbh.
Post by: sys on August 06, 2020, 09:38:22 PM
How sure are we that Biden is still even alive?
when you come at god, you best not miss.
Post by: wetwillie on August 06, 2020, 09:40:30 PM
eff if I know, but my limited research shows Susan Rice or Harris.
I don't expect Harris. It sounds like he and the voters hate her.
It’s no epoch times but The Hill has this to say
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Days before Joe Biden is set to announce his running mate, Democrats including confidants of the former vice president say the race is fluid, with different candidates gaining or losing momentum.
Three candidates - Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), former national security adviser Susan Rice and Rep. Karen Bass (D-Calif.) - are seen as the top candidates in contention.
Post by: wetwillie on August 06, 2020, 09:43:11 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 07, 2020, 12:58:43 AM
Whitmer was the best choice but whomever is Weekend at Bernie'sing Biden tried to pander and score cheap points and painted him in a corner. If they pick Whitmer or Warren now people will flip their crap.
Post by: MakeItRain on August 07, 2020, 01:43:56 AM
How sure are we that Biden is still even alive?
Whomever has their hand up his ass said something stupid today, again trying to pander.
I'm not 100% sure they won't eff this up, I don't even know if I'm more than 50-50.
Post by: 8manpick on August 07, 2020, 08:48:34 AM
Lol didn’t oscar get hired on Final Four Saturday?We should find out tomorrow, right?
not the sort of thing normally announced on a friday.
I wonder if it’s like big time college basketball coaching hires. Like, if you’re hiring Bob Huggins you make it a real big deal on a Tuesday or something, but if you’re hiring oscar you make sure hardly anyone notices.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 07, 2020, 08:55:03 AM
Lol didn’t oscar get hired on Final Four Saturday?We should find out tomorrow, right?
not the sort of thing normally announced on a friday.
I wonder if it’s like big time college basketball coaching hires. Like, if you’re hiring Bob Huggins you make it a real big deal on a Tuesday or something, but if you’re hiring oscar you make sure hardly anyone notices.
Friday.
I was in NOLA sitting on a bus from the airport the hotel, and a dude who played for oscar at Illinois was sitting right next to us, he said something like this, "oscar is a good coach, but he's . . . awkward"
Post by: 8manpick on August 07, 2020, 09:19:13 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1291722355471941633?s=20
Post by: Institutional Control on August 07, 2020, 10:03:27 AM
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Post by: sys on August 07, 2020, 12:04:42 PM
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1291731444411367425
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 07, 2020, 12:14:23 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on August 11, 2020, 10:16:14 PM
Post by: sys on August 11, 2020, 10:56:11 PM
The DNC came for Ilhan in Minnesota.
you live in a fantasy world every bit as delusional as dax's.
Post by: sys on August 11, 2020, 11:01:41 PM
https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1292478401207504898
https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1293275398076334081
https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1292574029543608320
Post by: MakeItRain on August 11, 2020, 11:47:49 PM
I'll admit my mistake but those three endorsements wouldn't have done a thing to discredit that establishment dems wanted her out. Those endorsements are from the speaker of the house, who endorses all dem incumbents, never mind her opponent running attack ads using Pelosi criticisms. The other two endorsements you listed are from progressive leaders in the state. The Minnesota establishment are progressives, they aren't the DNC, they aren't even called the democratic party.
Post by: sys on August 11, 2020, 11:56:33 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 12, 2020, 12:01:34 AM
Post by: Trim on August 12, 2020, 12:10:18 AM
I wanted to dunk on somebody.
Figuratively.
Post by: MakeItRain on August 12, 2020, 11:26:22 AM
I wanted to dunk on somebody.
Figuratively.
Still jump roping nearly everyday, I want to get just one more.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 12, 2020, 11:36:43 AM
The DNC came for Ilhan in Minnesota.
you live in a fantasy world every bit as delusional as dax's.
Fascinating take from the boards biggest know nothing spit baller and Whack-A-Doo
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 12, 2020, 11:38:14 AM
Being compared to Dax is incredibly offensive IMO.
The Sociopath just can't keep me off his mind
Post by: Trim on August 12, 2020, 12:05:38 PM
I wanted to dunk on somebody.
Figuratively.
Still jump roping nearly everyday, I want to get just one more.
This is going to end spectacularly one way or the other, positively or negatively.
Post by: MakeItRain on August 12, 2020, 12:11:27 PM
I wanted to dunk on somebody.
Figuratively.
Still jump roping nearly everyday, I want to get just one more.
This is going to end spectacularly one way or the other, positively or negatively.
Nah, right now I look like your run of the mill 6'4" 20 year old from Shawnee who can dunk a mini ball but just can't muster up the additional 9 inches to get a regulation sized ball over the rim. I'm going to give this whole thing up before I Parrothead Cat my Achilles in a billion pieces.
Post by: chum1 on August 12, 2020, 08:51:49 PM
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“How many of you are tired of being called a racist?” asked the speaker, K. Carl Smith, who is Black.
Almost everyone in the crowd raised their hands or nodded solemnly.
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the chair of the McLennan County GOP lamented, “I invited every Black friend I know, and they didn’t show!”
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sold $20 hardback copies of his book, “Frederick Douglass Republicans: The Movement to Re-Ignite America’s Passion for Liberty,” to teach his predominantly white audience how to woo people of color.
“After tonight I’m so pumped,” said Kathy Endres, a white woman who attended Smith’s event and bought copies of the book for herself and her husband. “I feel like I can go out there and make the whole world Republican
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 13, 2020, 05:26:12 PM
Joe for example has happily helped march the United States into idiotic wars, then when public opinion gets a little dicey he'll attempt to roll with something like, "well, this isn't the war I was sold".
Harris by early accounts comes across as being kind of tough on banks, but it looks like the Wall Street/Banking lobby is pretty :love: :love: :love: with this pairing, and Harris has only been very superficially tough with the industry. Lot of fluff.
In other words, the kind of candidates that Useful Idiot Nation can fully support.
It's all about the (D)
Post by: Kat Kid on August 13, 2020, 06:18:09 PM
The thing I appreciate about Harris and Biden, is that they're both very similiar.
Joe for example has happily helped march the United States into idiotic wars, then when public opinion gets a little dicey he'll attempt to roll with something like, "well, this isn't the war I was sold".
Harris by early accounts comes across as being kind of tough on banks, but it looks like the Wall Street/Banking lobby is pretty :love: :love: :love: with this pairing, and Harris has only been very superficially tough with the industry. Lot of fluff.
In other words, the kind of candidates that Useful Idiot Nation can fully support.
It's all about the (D)
classic too clever by half dax post
Claim: Harris was thought to be tough on banks
Claim: Wall Street/Banking lobby loves this pairing (Biden/Harris)
Claim: Harris has only been very superficially tough with the industry (banking)
Claim: [Biden/Harris are] the kind of candidates that Useful Idiot Nation can fully support
Claim: It's all about the (D)
So--
Useful Idiot Nation likes candidates that claim to be tough on banks, but aren't actually.
but then why would they even care? because:
Useful Idiot Nation believes its all about the (D).
Post by: sys on August 16, 2020, 04:04:47 PM
https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1294998681796653060
Post by: chum1 on August 16, 2020, 07:50:43 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 09:42:48 PM
interesting article (long, but worth it).-that Pennsylvania campaign trip almost seemed fake
https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1294998681796653060
-unreal how much Trump loves Kush
Post by: Trim on August 16, 2020, 09:57:57 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 16, 2020, 10:43:00 PM
Post by: chum1 on August 17, 2020, 03:22:22 PM
Post by: CHONGS on August 17, 2020, 07:02:31 PM
lol, he's gotta be bullshittingNo, he actually 100% believe it. Different side of Jordan Petersen coin.
Post by: chum1 on August 17, 2020, 09:20:10 PM
Post by: chum1 on August 17, 2020, 09:24:43 PM
:excited:
Post by: chum1 on August 17, 2020, 09:27:44 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 17, 2020, 10:35:08 PM
The appeal to Republicans being made in the DNC has serious bring back Snyder to calm the waters energy. Lol.
Holy crap. You're absolutely right. That's exactly what this is.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 17, 2020, 10:56:50 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on August 18, 2020, 12:42:39 AM
Klobuchar: "You know, The President may hate The Post Office, but he's still going to have to send them a change of address form come January."
:excited:
Why are they so corny?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 18, 2020, 08:58:45 AM
The appeal to Republicans being made in the DNC has serious bring back Snyder to calm the waters energy. Lol.
The Biden presidency is going to burn white hot 2 years in and then slide back to mediocrity before he's gone 4 years later than he should have left, but without all of the mumped up Trump love sweepstakes stories.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 18, 2020, 09:10:10 AM
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TheBidenHarris presidency is going to burn white hot 2 years in and then slide back to mediocrity
Good prediction
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 18, 2020, 09:11:35 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on August 18, 2020, 09:18:32 AM
Klobuchar: "You know, The President may hate The Post Office, but he's still going to have to send them a change of address form come January."
:excited:
Why are they so corny?
I've heard plenty of that corny crap from pubs re: Obama for all 8 years he was there. They are all corny.
Post by: Phil Titola on August 18, 2020, 09:21:11 AM
Klobuchar: "You know, The President may hate The Post Office, but he's still going to have to send them a change of address form come January."
:excited:
Why are they so corny?
I've heard plenty of that corny crap from pubs re: Obama for all 8 years he was there. They are all corny.
I mean look at her, she has mom jeans written all over here, of course those are the jokes she would tell.
Post by: nicname on August 18, 2020, 01:53:03 PM
Klobuchar: "You know, The President may hate The Post Office, but he's still going to have to send them a change of address form come January."
:excited:
Why are they so corny?
I've heard plenty of that corny crap from pubs re: Obama for all 8 years he was there. They are all corny.
I mean look at her, she has mom jeans written all over here, of course those are the jokes she would tell.
If there was a local person who made it big in politics on the tv show “the middle” it would basically be Klob.
Post by: chum1 on August 18, 2020, 09:01:43 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 18, 2020, 09:08:27 PM
Kansas did not represent well in this state roll call thing.I missed it. :frown:
Post by: chum1 on August 18, 2020, 09:21:34 PM
https://twitter.com/WaltHickey/status/1295905984506998786
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 18, 2020, 10:04:02 PM
Kansas did not represent well in this state roll call thing.
It was extremely Kansas-e0
Post by: MakeItRain on August 18, 2020, 11:56:24 PM
https://twitter.com/tanyaweiman/status/1295909023829590017
https://twitter.com/AndrewBahl/status/1295910304719736835
https://twitter.com/_lindsay/status/1295910105842700288
https://twitter.com/Hollyrosebell/status/1295919008311578624
https://twitter.com/allamericansam/status/1295921629185204224
Post by: cfbandyman on August 19, 2020, 06:30:05 AM
Kansas did not represent well in this state roll call thing.I missed it. :frown:
Whole thing is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ9s4x_Mybs
Post by: chum1 on August 19, 2020, 06:59:16 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 19, 2020, 08:03:56 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 19, 2020, 08:59:35 AM
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1295902565750771717
Post by: michigancat on August 19, 2020, 09:43:37 AM
I loved the farmer and the setting. But maybe he should've rehearsed his lines a bit more. ???
I thought the whole thing was great. It was like they told every state to just do whatever the eff they wanted with zero guidelines and oh boy did they.
Just watched the Kansas guy. Love him, also loved it when they like, didn't do second takes.
Post by: michigancat on August 19, 2020, 09:47:45 AM
Post by: chum1 on August 19, 2020, 01:15:48 PM
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21. Kansas. Score: 78.
Politics: 5. Authenticity: 8. Aesthetics: 3. Real people: 4. Tourist appeal: 2. Bonus points: 2.
An unpolished farmer, standing in a field without any visual identification of the state he was representing is to Kansas what the union member near the arch was to Missouri.
https://twitter.com/terri_rupar/status/1296117273862832132
Post by: chum1 on August 19, 2020, 01:19:26 PM
also loved it when they like, didn't do second takes.
And where was the iconic sign? They were like, "oops. Left the sign in the truck. Oh well. Too late now." Or maybe they just didn't know what it was. ???
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 19, 2020, 01:22:17 PM
No worries, dax.She and her insane faction hate Biden. Thankfully for them, Joe won’t be around long.
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1295902565750771717
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 19, 2020, 01:34:34 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 19, 2020, 01:36:54 PM
You hate Biden, too.Joe is great.
I just feel very badly for him. It has to be killing him to be such a sell out.
The young Joe Biden would have told the ProgFascists to pound sand and likely said something about how they should probably be in jail and are UnAmerican.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 19, 2020, 01:40:04 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on August 19, 2020, 01:42:16 PM
No worries, dax.
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1295902565750771717
Didn't even need to read the article to see this in the subheading
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Ahead of the roll call in a procedural move, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez nominated fellow democratic socialist Senator Bernie Sanders for the presidency.
But dax gonna dax, it's too bad we don't get surf to turf instead of the shitposter we have here. Same with paul-allen, way better at KSO than the kickball aftermath we get here.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 19, 2020, 01:43:06 PM
Dax thinks the most racist legislator in modern American history is "great" :buh-bye:He’s great in the sense that he’s going to provide and has provided colossal BBS’ing opportunities.
But everything has to be laid out entirely for rock brained BidenBot.7, my bad. #frown
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 19, 2020, 01:46:38 PM
That doesn’t change anything relative to her and her insane factions true feelings towards Biden.No worries, dax.
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1295902565750771717
Didn't even need to read the article to see this in the subheadingQuoteAhead of the roll call in a procedural move, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez nominated fellow democratic socialist Senator Bernie Sanders for the presidency.
But dax gonna dax, it's too bad we don't get surf to turf instead of the shitposter we have here. Same with paul-allen, way better at KSO than the kickball aftermath we get here.
It’s just a shame we can’t get a little more Boyd and a lot less crap show MIR on here.
Post by: michigancat on August 19, 2020, 03:13:46 PM
I shouldn't have said Kansas did poorly. I take it back.Quote21. Kansas. Score: 78.
Politics: 5. Authenticity: 8. Aesthetics: 3. Real people: 4. Tourist appeal: 2. Bonus points: 2.
An unpolished farmer, standing in a field without any visual identification of the state he was representing is to Kansas what the union member near the arch was to Missouri.
https://twitter.com/terri_rupar/status/1296117273862832132
wtf? that guy was a very real person. I also think KS should have ranked higher on aesthetics!
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23. Missouri. Score: 77.
Politics: 5. Authenticity: 7. Aesthetics: 6. Real people: 0. Tourist appeal: 5. Bonus points: 1.
A building trades union member standing near the arch? Authentic; politically useful.
Post by: chum1 on August 19, 2020, 03:28:42 PM
wtf? that guy was a very real person.
Yeah. I think maybe because it was only one real person.
Post by: chum1 on August 19, 2020, 03:34:44 PM
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57. Indiana. Score: 37.
Politics: 4. Authenticity: 0. Aesthetics: 5. Real people: 0. Tourist appeal: 1. Bonus points: 1.
Former South Bend mayor Pete Buttigieg anchored Indiana’s last-place segment, apparently shot in a hall of mirrors at a carnival just outside Indianapolis. (This may be inaccurate.) Dry, weird — but a bonus point for the sheer risk the state took. It paid off in the sense that it probably made a lot of people want to stream “Logan’s Run.”
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 19, 2020, 03:40:29 PM
Always glad to see a spouse step up for a presidential candidate who hasn't had a single non-scripted interview . . . yet.
Post by: chum1 on August 19, 2020, 04:06:56 PM
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Post by: Phil Titola on August 19, 2020, 10:04:39 PM
Just want to thank Jill Biden for going on the Today Show and affirming that Joe's mind is perfect.Trump should take notes. He could probably have gotten something done in 4 years. Alas.
Always glad to see a spouse step up for a presidential candidate who hasn't had a single non-scripted interview . . . yet.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 20, 2020, 12:43:02 AM
I've never seen a party take the loss of a mega corrupt racist war monger so hard.
But you're getting pretty redundant at this point. Like I keep saying, in a few months you guys can do the ol bait and switch and you won't have to send Jill out to talk on behalf of Joe anymore.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 20, 2020, 01:40:15 PM
For-
Jailing employers who hired illegals
A wall to keep out those "tons of drugs from corrupt Mexico" (his words)
Advocated for the "Secure Fence Act" (along with Obama and Clinton)
Against-
Issuing drivers licenses to illegals
Presidential Nominee Joe Biden: For illegal immigrants for the past 9 to 12 months, 40 years of fighting against them. 8 years in an administration that brought forth no true long term immigration reform policies of any kind.
Post by: Phil Titola on August 20, 2020, 01:43:44 PM
Once upon a time with Joe Biden:
For-
Jailing employers who hired illegals
A wall to keep out those "tons of drugs from corrupt Mexico" (his words)
Advocated for the "Secure Fence Act" (along with Obama and Clinton)
Against-
Issuing drivers licenses to illegals
Presidential Nominee Joe Biden: For illegal immigrants for the past 9 to 12 months, 40 years of fighting against them. 8 years in an administration that brought forth no true long term immigration reform policies of any kind.
Pretty great to see an old man willing to grow and change his points of view. Can teach an old dog new tricks. You should try it sometime.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 20, 2020, 01:45:28 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 20, 2020, 01:47:14 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on August 20, 2020, 01:50:16 PM
An old man who has completely and clearly sold out his core ideals of institutionalized racism, war creation and immigration failure in order to appease the farthest most insane fringes of his party to garner enough steam to get nominated to run for President.
I understand you hate someone selling out their ideals of institutionalized racism but for the rest of us that's like a good thing Dax. Also being against racism isn't "insane fringes" of the party.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 20, 2020, 01:58:05 PM
An old man who has completely and clearly sold out his core ideals of institutionalized racism, war creation and immigration failure in order to appease the farthest most insane fringes of his party to garner enough steam to get nominated to run for President.
I understand you hate someone selling out their ideals of institutionalized racism but for the rest of us that's like a good thing Dax. Also being against racism isn't "insane fringes" of the party.
Pfft, it's 1000% political pandering, Phil. There's no way Joe Biden, a man who made his bones making sure that communities of color faced draconian justice system sentencing and fought against desegregation changes his core values. Joe is going along because he knew and knows that was and is his only chance.
Post by: steve dave on August 20, 2020, 02:06:36 PM
https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1296522445948628994
Post by: Phil Titola on August 20, 2020, 02:08:21 PM
who is left that actually IS voting for this guy?
https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1296522445948628994
Nobody wants to be the first...or last to jump off the boat. Under 75 days left is prime jump time.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 20, 2020, 02:17:15 PM
Many in the rank and file of your movement never trusted or believed a word they said.
Your movement is now fully assimilated.
SMDH, sad
Post by: LickNeckey on August 20, 2020, 03:02:12 PM
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
Post by: mocat on August 21, 2020, 07:04:45 AM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1296655543021559809?s=19
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 21, 2020, 07:19:24 AM
now that my friend is how you Daxflect a scathing criticismThere’s 1.2 million civilian employees just in the DOD alone.
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
I suspect many of them just looked at the current defense budget.
Qualifying that for the usual dipshits. I’m not saying that budget is a good thing.
Post by: chum1 on August 21, 2020, 08:42:13 AM
What the
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1296655543021559809?s=19
https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1296766476586815491
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 21, 2020, 08:43:55 AM
Federal officers are now "troops"?
Fascinating
This is sounding like the "occupation" (of two city blocks).
Post by: waks on August 21, 2020, 10:20:08 AM
Post by: mocat on August 21, 2020, 10:24:03 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 21, 2020, 10:28:42 AM
That's total bullshit, and you guys know it.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2020, 10:34:58 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 21, 2020, 10:37:40 AM
It won't actually happen. But BidenBot.7 and his buds are going to have a total meltdown about it as always
Yep
Post by: Phil Titola on August 21, 2020, 11:09:25 AM
So why support him saying it dax? Own the libs is a bit long in the tooth ya think?It won't actually happen. But BidenBot.7 and his buds are going to have a total meltdown about it as always
Yep
Post by: Institutional Control on August 21, 2020, 10:10:30 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 22, 2020, 08:59:54 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on August 22, 2020, 10:20:00 PM
Post by: sys on August 23, 2020, 02:23:28 AM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1297311732310974474
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2020, 02:29:16 PM
Post by: sys on August 23, 2020, 06:34:47 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 23, 2020, 07:28:15 PM
Post by: sys on August 23, 2020, 07:39:14 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 23, 2020, 07:41:59 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 23, 2020, 07:50:46 PM
Post by: chum1 on August 23, 2020, 08:19:38 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on August 23, 2020, 09:57:14 PM
https://twitter.com/globe_shill/status/1297654361187733504
Richard Spencer? Nah fam.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2020, 10:10:30 AM
Spencer clearly feels a kinship with Mega Racist Joe Biden, and apparently understands that at least until recently, Harris has been a throw'em in jail, secure the border, very pro cop politician.
Congrats Biden and BidenBots everywhere for your guy getting this landmark endorsement!
Post by: steve dave on August 24, 2020, 10:29:47 AM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2020, 10:32:22 AM
Yeah, going for that "winning strategy" on this 8 person blog.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2020, 10:33:28 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2020, 10:42:38 AM
Nothing solves a problem like draconian crime laws which don't realistically take into account a number of social, economic and psychological factors. It's quite clear now why Harris and Biden fit together, and I retract my previous comments about Biden not being enthused about Harris. Those two are perfect for each other.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-truancy-arrests-2020-progressive-prosecutor_n_5c995789e4b0f7bfa1b57d2e?fbclid=IwAR2Vprg56jtxBssoB647Kpfauqb7J6N_OoZz0xZnX_tZW8QLtlizK-S8td8&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWUub3JnL2FydGljbGVzL2NvbXB1bHNvcnktc2Nob29saW5nLWxhd3MtYXJlbi10LXByb2dyZXNzaXZlLXRoZXktcmUtaW5odW1hbmUv&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJUDW1pTMDe0RaNvDhB1KOo7CE5NqccJ2T0yu_1QW5RfVE7Jw3u8LwSsO8i0HuHcUpdBgY9TY7WoF3ExZQb5UyXBWiv7KNmXsUnXIt_gDeRLFyhp3TrgMHfbgG5fYuDTKMXV-LSc5xXa5N8kPFFrKWh6rcXtYCEE0O-onauXmlr4&guccounter=2
Post by: steve dave on August 24, 2020, 10:59:35 AM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2020, 11:03:57 AM
Democrats hated his ass, because he'd do some Anti-Trump grandstanding then fall right back into line when it mattered to enraged LibBots the most.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 24, 2020, 01:47:34 PM
Post by: chum1 on August 24, 2020, 02:42:15 PM
https://twitter.com/smotus/status/1297944247082000384
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1297514284793069569
Post by: chum1 on August 24, 2020, 02:44:03 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 24, 2020, 02:46:18 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 24, 2020, 02:47:20 PM
Post by: chum1 on August 24, 2020, 02:49:43 PM
Will they be able to fill the time?
Not a problem. From acceptance speech earlier today:
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1297942921480671233
Post by: chum1 on August 24, 2020, 02:51:17 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2020, 03:02:16 PM
I want to hear about the ramp. In detail.
On all four nights
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2020, 04:17:59 PM
Whatever is the most politically expedient at the the time and most appeasing to the audience on hand.
An entire party platform built on pandering and bending to every whim.
I just wanna fix the problem . . . ya know. Brilliance.
https://twitter.com/FrancisBrennan/status/1297708486692950017?s=20
Post by: CHONGS on August 24, 2020, 05:43:41 PM
Post by: chum1 on August 24, 2020, 05:48:30 PM
Post by: chum1 on August 24, 2020, 08:50:03 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2020, 08:52:28 PM
Aren't you voting for a member of that party?
We all know you're a straight ticket voter Chin. You've said so 100 times.
Post by: michigancat on August 24, 2020, 08:58:49 PM
https://twitter.com/mat/status/1298074819188072449
Post by: chum1 on August 24, 2020, 09:08:17 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on August 24, 2020, 09:09:43 PM
Post by: chum1 on August 24, 2020, 09:24:12 PM
I'm guessing a ton of propaganda videos
The videos remind me of some sci-fi movies where there is some over hyped news flash cut in. Like Starship Troopers or Robocop.
Post by: chum1 on August 24, 2020, 09:32:40 PM
Don Jr.'s stash
Man, his eyes.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 24, 2020, 09:35:36 PM
Don Jr.'s stash
Man, his eyes.
What in the world is going on with him? Did he snort before this?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 24, 2020, 09:40:06 PM
https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/1298081728217718784?s=21
Post by: sys on August 24, 2020, 09:52:57 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 25, 2020, 10:08:22 PM
But golly, it was just the "perfect storm" according to a Dem operative #shrug
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 26, 2020, 10:29:48 AM
https://twitter.com/maxabrahms/status/1298643342029402112?s=21
?https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/25/opinion/biden-foreign-policy.html?smid=tw-share?
Post by: catastrophe on August 26, 2020, 10:59:34 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 26, 2020, 11:01:03 AM
I think the vast majority understand that thesecondworst thing we can do is go back to pre-Trump politics.
Post by: MakeItRain on August 27, 2020, 07:06:23 PM
:surprised:
Can you imagine the thermonuclear meltdown if they didn't endorse a presidential candidate or endorsed Biden.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 27, 2020, 08:37:36 PM
Now in a typical Dem MPOS move, he's claiming that Trump is cheering for the riots that operatives in his movement are causing.
SMDH
Post by: star seed 7 on August 27, 2020, 08:59:32 PM
Post by: steve dave on August 27, 2020, 11:59:12 PM
https://twitter.com/marketwatch/status/1299208719838916610
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 28, 2020, 07:33:10 AM
You're aware that Joe Biden does not currently hold office, yes?
You are an insta-tapout anymore.
Sad
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 28, 2020, 07:36:48 AM
https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1298998822920769536?s=20
Post by: steve dave on August 31, 2020, 04:10:49 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 31, 2020, 04:24:43 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 31, 2020, 05:08:47 PM
Trump has done so many things to earn the love of our troops.
Post by: Phil Titola on August 31, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Too huge of a budget and not enough war I suppose.Yeah I'm sure that's it. People can't stand working for incompetent bosses.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 31, 2020, 09:19:32 PM
Too huge of a budget and not enough war I suppose.Yeah I'm sure that's it. People can't stand working for incompetent bosses.
Oh yes, the previous administration was just loved by the military. An administration who asked them to bomb more, but try do it on a lower budget would you guys . . .
Which is why we have worn out planes that have cost and will cost billions to overhaul and replace.
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 31, 2020, 09:21:56 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 31, 2020, 09:23:18 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 31, 2020, 09:34:45 PM
SMDH
Among those bailed out by the Minnesota Freedom Fund (MFF) is a suspect who shot at police, a woman accused of killing a friend, and a twice convicted sex offender, according to court records reviewed by the FOX 9 Investigators.
According to attempted murder charges, Jaleel Stallings shot at members of a SWAT Team during the riots in May. Police recovered a modified pistol that looks like an AK-47. MFF paid $75,000 in cash to get Stallings out of jail.
Darnika Floyd is charged with second degree murder, for stabbing a friend to death. MFF paid $100,000 cash for her release.
Christopher Boswell, a twice convicted rapist, is currently charged with kidnapping, assault, and sexual assault in two separate cases. MFF paid $350,00 [sic] in cash for his release. (Fox9 Minneapolis)
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1267555018128965643?s=20
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 31, 2020, 09:41:10 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 31, 2020, 09:49:35 PM
Translation: This is polling of the kinds of military people that historically BidenVoter Nation has hated and never trusted nor believed a word they said.
Post by: MakeItRain on August 31, 2020, 10:36:12 PM
Had no problem putting parents of sick kids in jail for truancy because she had to look super tough . . . then got super woke and helped bail out hard core criminals and sex offenders.
SMDH
Among those bailed out by the Minnesota Freedom Fund (MFF) is a suspect who shot at police, a woman accused of killing a friend, and a twice convicted sex offender, according to court records reviewed by the FOX 9 Investigators.
According to attempted murder charges, Jaleel Stallings shot at members of a SWAT Team during the riots in May. Police recovered a modified pistol that looks like an AK-47. MFF paid $75,000 in cash to get Stallings out of jail.
Darnika Floyd is charged with second degree murder, for stabbing a friend to death. MFF paid $100,000 cash for her release.
Christopher Boswell, a twice convicted rapist, is currently charged with kidnapping, assault, and sexual assault in two separate cases. MFF paid $350,00 [sic] in cash for his release. (Fox9 Minneapolis)
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1267555018128965643?s=20
Nothing like a unsolicited three month old tweet bump to distract from the fact that Barack Obama was more popular with the military than the cheeto.
Post by: Phil Titola on August 31, 2020, 10:37:43 PM
The polling is of career minded military officers and even observers admit that may not reflect the views of more rank and file military members.The chart Saturday active duty troops?
Translation: This is polling of the kinds of military people that historically BidenVoter Nation has hated and never trusted nor believed a word they said.
Post by: Trim on August 31, 2020, 10:48:32 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 31, 2020, 10:50:52 PM
Had no problem putting parents of sick kids in jail for truancy because she had to look super tough . . . then got super woke and helped bail out hard core criminals and sex offenders.
SMDH
Among those bailed out by the Minnesota Freedom Fund (MFF) is a suspect who shot at police, a woman accused of killing a friend, and a twice convicted sex offender, according to court records reviewed by the FOX 9 Investigators.
According to attempted murder charges, Jaleel Stallings shot at members of a SWAT Team during the riots in May. Police recovered a modified pistol that looks like an AK-47. MFF paid $75,000 in cash to get Stallings out of jail.
Darnika Floyd is charged with second degree murder, for stabbing a friend to death. MFF paid $100,000 cash for her release.
Christopher Boswell, a twice convicted rapist, is currently charged with kidnapping, assault, and sexual assault in two separate cases. MFF paid $350,00 [sic] in cash for his release. (Fox9 Minneapolis)
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1267555018128965643?s=20
Nothing like a unsolicited three month old tweet bump to distract from the fact that Barack Obama was more popular with the military than the cheeto.
When Obama left office his military disapproval rating in the same survey was 53%, but you're not an Obama guy, though.
Oh, and this is the 2020 Election thread, not the military polling thread, dummy.
Kamala Harris: Tough on sick kids parents . . . bailing out murderers and sex offenders.
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 31, 2020, 10:54:59 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 31, 2020, 10:57:52 PM
Obama :curse: :curse: :curse:
Some people have trouble following along and understanding what's posted.
Da Big SocioPath for example.
Post by: MakeItRain on August 31, 2020, 11:50:16 PM
Is bernie not trying to get his people to knock the anti-biden stuff off or do they no longer give a eff what he says?
He endorsed Biden and spoke at the DNC. The percentage of leftists who don't vote D will be the smallest percentage o.a.t. I think Biden will receive the largest number of votes in a presidential election.
Post by: sys on September 01, 2020, 12:24:20 AM
He endorsed Biden and spoke at the DNC. The percentage of leftists who don't vote D will be the smallest percentage o.a.t. I think Biden will receive the largest number of votes in a presidential election.
coronavirus makes things a little less certain, but i'm still expecting turnout to be off the charts. i think biden getting 80 million votes is realistic.
Post by: chum1 on September 01, 2020, 07:26:46 AM
https://twitter.com/BFriedmanDC/status/1300435270240739333
+20 to -4. That's incredible.
https://twitter.com/geoffgarin/status/1300645196955299840
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 01, 2020, 08:50:11 AM
I suspect some probably believe Joe is gonna provide some resume builders.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 01, 2020, 10:25:37 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 01, 2020, 10:35:01 AM
War and combat is the road to career advancement for the career military person.Think about the mental gymnastics required to arrive here
I suspect some probably believe Joe is gonna provide some resume builders.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 01, 2020, 11:03:39 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 01, 2020, 11:23:08 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 01, 2020, 11:34:45 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 01, 2020, 11:36:08 AM
War and combat is the road to career advancement for the career military person.
I suspect some probably believe Joe is gonna provide some resume builders.
Which clearly explains why there was 24 point swing from WAR MONGER HRC.
Post by: cfbandyman on September 01, 2020, 12:34:11 PM
War and combat is the road to career advancement for the career military person.
I suspect some probably believe Joe is gonna provide some resume builders.
Which clearly explains why there was 24 point swing from WAR MONGER HRC.
Grunts want nothing more than to be deployed.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 01, 2020, 12:50:22 PM
War and combat is the road to career advancement for the career military person.
I suspect some probably believe Joe is gonna provide some resume builders.
Which clearly explains why there was 24 point swing from WAR MONGER HRC.
Grunts want nothing more than to be deployed.
"Getting shot up overseas is an amazing career opportunity."
A complete idiot who is morbidly obese.
Post by: Institutional Control on September 01, 2020, 02:03:08 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 01, 2020, 02:07:37 PM
Sad
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 01, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 01, 2020, 03:34:35 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 01, 2020, 09:49:55 PM
War and combat is the road to career advancement for the career military person.
I suspect some probably believe Joe is gonna provide some resume builders.
I think things like this are why cheeto can't even win with the military. So many bombshell quotes in here.
https://twitter.com/votevets/status/1300951169423101953
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 01, 2020, 10:07:10 PM
War and combat is the road to career advancement for the career military person.
I suspect some probably believe Joe is gonna provide some resume builders.
I think things like this are why cheeto can't even win with the military. So many bombshell quotes in here.
https://twitter.com/votevets/status/1300951169423101953
Yeah but whatabout the Hillary Emails! Or whatabout Obama :curse: :curse: :curse:! Or whatabout some other thing! Whatabout!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 01, 2020, 11:16:10 PM
I'm sure all the parents of the thousands of dead service members from previous administrations, to a person, loved the president that sent their son or daughter off to die in the sand or over a worthless POS pile of rocks. Where we've been for 20 years now with no end in sight as long as the Party of Perpetual War goes all Dick Cheney every time Trump talks about getting out of there.
Post by: chum1 on September 02, 2020, 01:59:36 PM
https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1301219015793111040
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 02, 2020, 02:07:08 PM
Wow, DBS just gets more deranged by the hour.
I'm sure all the parents of the thousands of dead service members from previous administrations, to a person, loved the president that sent their son or daughter off to die in the sand or over a worthless POS pile of rocks. Where we've been for 20 years now with no end in sight as long as the Party of Perpetual War goes all Dick Cheney every time Trump talks about getting out of there.
They loved it because of the promotions and career advancements.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 02, 2020, 02:17:59 PM
Fantastic insight.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 02, 2020, 02:34:42 PM
Yeah Dug, the U.S. military has 1000's of officers who just want to ride their desk job. One thing for sure, no long term career minded officer ever wants their name associated with combat deployment/leadership. The path to real power is pushing paper.
Fantastic insight.
I certainly agree there are a number of officers who could benefit career wise by a deployment AND who would be willing to risk their safety for that opportunity. But the poll didn't cover only those people. Military Times states it polled 1000 or so active duty, and for the first time in a long time they said trump is a rough ridin' dope with a huge gross fat stomach that makes everyone barf and they prefer Biden.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 02, 2020, 02:42:40 PM
Yeah Dug, the U.S. military has 1000's of officers who just want to ride their desk job. One thing for sure, no long term career minded officer ever wants their name associated with combat deployment/leadership. The path to real power is pushing paper.
Fantastic insight.
I certainly agree there are a number of officers who could benefit career wise by a deployment AND who would be willing to risk their safety for that opportunity. But the poll didn't cover only those people. Military Times states it polled 1000 or so active duty, and for the first time in a long time they said trump is a rough ridin' dope with a huge gross fat stomach that makes everyone barf and they prefer Biden.
Most officers aren't putting potential for career advancement over potential of death for themselves or their soldiers. That's ridiculous.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 02, 2020, 02:47:38 PM
Yeah Dug, the U.S. military has 1000's of officers who just want to ride their desk job. One thing for sure, no long term career minded officer ever wants their name associated with combat deployment/leadership. The path to real power is pushing paper.
Fantastic insight.
I certainly agree there are a number of officers who could benefit career wise by a deployment AND who would be willing to risk their safety for that opportunity. But the poll didn't cover only those people. Military Times states it polled 1000 or so active duty, and for the first time in a long time they said trump is a rough ridin' dope with a huge gross fat stomach that makes everyone barf and they prefer Biden.
Most officers aren't putting potential for career advancement over potential of death for themselves or their soldiers. That's ridiculous.
That was not said or even implied, good grief.
BTW, Joe Biden is a mush brain and all attempts to cover that up are just :lol: :lol:
It's so bad now that BidenVoter Nation and leadership is trying to go the Russian disinformation route, which is so predictable it's . . . sad.
Come up with a new one guys. FFS
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 02, 2020, 02:48:29 PM
Yeah Dug, the U.S. military has 1000's of officers who just want to ride their desk job. One thing for sure, no long term career minded officer ever wants their name associated with combat deployment/leadership. The path to real power is pushing paper.
Fantastic insight.
I certainly agree there are a number of officers who could benefit career wise by a deployment AND who would be willing to risk their safety for that opportunity. But the poll didn't cover only those people. Military Times states it polled 1000 or so active duty, and for the first time in a long time they said trump is a rough ridin' dope with a huge gross fat stomach that makes everyone barf and they prefer Biden.
Most officers aren't putting potential for career advancement over potential of death for themselves or their soldiers. That's ridiculous.
There are probably a few that would, but the vast, vast majority want to live and their soldiers to live and not be horribly maimed but magas are especially dumb on this subject. Like, next level stupid and can't fathom that the military as currently compromised thinks trump is a complete fat loser with no courage or brains.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 02, 2020, 02:50:38 PM
Yeah Dug, the U.S. military has 1000's of officers who just want to ride their desk job. One thing for sure, no long term career minded officer ever wants their name associated with combat deployment/leadership. The path to real power is pushing paper.
Fantastic insight.
I certainly agree there are a number of officers who could benefit career wise by a deployment AND who would be willing to risk their safety for that opportunity. But the poll didn't cover only those people. Military Times states it polled 1000 or so active duty, and for the first time in a long time they said trump is a rough ridin' dope with a huge gross fat stomach that makes everyone barf and they prefer Biden.
Most officers aren't putting potential for career advancement over potential of death for themselves or their soldiers. That's ridiculous.
That was not said or even implied, good grief.
BTW, Joe Biden is a mush brain and all attempts to cover that up are just :lol: :lol:
It's so bad now that BidenVoter Nation and leadership is trying to go the Russian disinformation route, which is so predictable it's . . . sad.
Come up with a new one guys. FFS
So, what was said/implied? I am eager to hear why the majority of our men and women in uniform think trump is a total fat coward?
Post by: Phil Titola on September 02, 2020, 03:00:52 PM
Hasn't it be agreed upon that they are both mush brained?Yeah Dug, the U.S. military has 1000's of officers who just want to ride their desk job. One thing for sure, no long term career minded officer ever wants their name associated with combat deployment/leadership. The path to real power is pushing paper.
Fantastic insight.
I certainly agree there are a number of officers who could benefit career wise by a deployment AND who would be willing to risk their safety for that opportunity. But the poll didn't cover only those people. Military Times states it polled 1000 or so active duty, and for the first time in a long time they said trump is a rough ridin' dope with a huge gross fat stomach that makes everyone barf and they prefer Biden.
Most officers aren't putting potential for career advancement over potential of death for themselves or their soldiers. That's ridiculous.
That was not said or even implied, good grief.
BTW, Joe Biden is a mush brain and all attempts to cover that up are just
It's so bad now that BidenVoter Nation and leadership is trying to go the Russian disinformation route, which is so predictable it's . . . sad.
Come up with a new one guys. FFS
Post by: Institutional Control on September 02, 2020, 03:02:10 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 02, 2020, 03:26:28 PM
Trumpers don't want to call their mush brain a mush brain yet.
Because that means they were conned by a jello head thus super stupid
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 02, 2020, 03:35:43 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 02, 2020, 04:28:52 PM
If it's mush brain versus racist mush brain....hold the racist, please.
Dax macro #1b32grv783z is on the way to respond to this.
Post by: sys on September 02, 2020, 04:34:47 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on September 02, 2020, 05:08:07 PM
Yeah Dug, the U.S. military has 1000's of officers who just want to ride their desk job. One thing for sure, no long term career minded officer ever wants their name associated with combat deployment/leadership. The path to real power is pushing paper.
Fantastic insight.
There are like 60,000 officers in the army rank of captain or above. Captains command between 100-250 people and it only goes up from there. So your point is dumb as crap.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 02, 2020, 05:16:31 PM
Yeah Dug, the U.S. military has 1000's of officers who just want to ride their desk job. One thing for sure, no long term career minded officer ever wants their name associated with combat deployment/leadership. The path to real power is pushing paper.So your point is dumb as crap.
Fantastic insight.
Water is wet
Post by: bucket on September 02, 2020, 06:05:22 PM
https://twitter.com/dbernstein/status/1301266901503553536
wtf is wrong with this guy
Post by: Phil Titola on September 02, 2020, 08:32:32 PM
Vote early vote often. The trump way!https://twitter.com/dbernstein/status/1301266901503553536
Good grief.
Post by: chum1 on September 03, 2020, 06:27:21 PM
https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1301657947739574273
Post by: steve dave on September 03, 2020, 06:50:53 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2020, 08:09:44 AM
https://t.co/3k2qJoGoVI
This reads at the same level of lunacy as Hillary’s internally ex-filtrated emails about her perpetual war foreign policy positions.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 04, 2020, 04:14:41 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on September 04, 2020, 04:46:40 PM
just ordered my mail in...
Did that about a month ago :gocho:
Post by: steve dave on September 04, 2020, 09:00:14 PM
Post by: mocat on September 05, 2020, 07:01:42 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 06, 2020, 03:04:12 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 06, 2020, 04:02:13 PM
https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1302658244830261250p
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2020, 04:44:56 PM
Theft is the only reasonable explanation.
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2020, 05:04:48 PM
Post by: sys on September 07, 2020, 02:57:19 AM
they did not spend 450 million in august.
they almost certainly now have less coh than the biden campaign, but that's not the same thing.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2020, 08:06:05 AM
War Monger Joe: Head Dem cheerleader for the death of thousands of troops. Attempted to walk back his cheerleading repeatedly. Like he always does after the bombs start dropping and people start dying. Knows dumbass BidenVoter is too stupid to figure this out.
Post by: steve dave on September 07, 2020, 08:09:10 AM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2020, 08:13:03 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2020, 08:17:08 AM
Billy K at one time was hated by BidenVoter with the power of 10 Chernobyl’s. Now BidenVoter welcomes this NeoCon with open arms.
Sad
https://twitter.com/billkristol/status/1302946240137768963?s=21
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2020, 08:29:15 AM
?https://interc.pt/322wEIo?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2020, 08:36:22 AM
https://twitter.com/cnnsotu/status/1302280854199308288?s=21
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2020, 08:56:36 AM
LOL
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Post by: _33 on September 07, 2020, 09:22:50 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 07, 2020, 09:26:20 AM
Is there any election outcome that would make everyone chill and go back basically ignoring politics instead of passionately obsessing over it with every fiber of their being?Obviously
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2020, 09:31:47 AM
Post by: chum1 on September 07, 2020, 09:33:48 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on September 07, 2020, 09:44:25 AM
Is there any election outcome that would make everyone chill and go back basically ignoring politics instead of passionately obsessing over it with every fiber of their being?I'm leaving the pit as soon as trump leaves the white house. I hate it down here.
Post by: steve dave on September 07, 2020, 10:10:17 AM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2020, 10:46:28 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 07, 2020, 11:00:07 AM
Post by: wetwillie on September 07, 2020, 11:27:34 AM
Post by: michigancat on September 07, 2020, 11:36:06 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on September 07, 2020, 11:36:54 AM
So, as you can see, a Biden win just takes us back to an Obama’esque environment and Dax screams into the Fox News echo chamber and the rest of us start talking about sports again. Valhalla. Jo’halla if you will.2021 is going to be amazing. Travel. Bars. Going to sports. Not worrying about what the president is screwing up. Throwing away my masks. I'm horned up already
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2020, 03:24:56 PM
QuoteIn that light, then, a higher-percentage play might be the NBA’s commitment to materially expanding voting access for residents of the league’s 30 cities, most of which trend poorer and blacker, and are more vulnerable to the violence players are protesting than their surrounding areas. (The Toronto Raptors are lobbying to help U.S. expats vote absentee.) As of this writing, The Associated Press reports that at least 20 teams have already announced concrete plans to set up voting centers at their arenas. Depending on the state, voters will be able to potentially vote early, register to vote or actually vote at those arenas on Election Day.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/09/06/nba-strike-2020-election-voting-lebron-trump-409211
No credit to this goes to LeBron. More importantly, opening these arenas as polling places is a half measure. There are two additional things that need to happen to make this a success. First, they need to be able to staff these sites so that there aren't thousands of people standing in line. Secondly, they need to have some mechanism to get the people they are trying to serve to these polling places. If these things don't happen this was all much ado about nothing.
Post by: chum1 on September 07, 2020, 05:19:14 PM
https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1303082209922949125
Post by: sys on September 07, 2020, 07:54:54 PM
Post by: sys on September 07, 2020, 07:56:24 PM
Post by: _33 on September 07, 2020, 08:57:04 PM
Is there any election outcome that would make everyone chill and go back basically ignoring politics instead of passionately obsessing over it with every fiber of their being?Obviously
Yeah but I'm afraid that Trump has the Trumpers so Trumped up that they will be to Biden what anti-Trumpers are to Trump. No?
Post by: _33 on September 07, 2020, 09:01:49 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 07, 2020, 09:17:41 PM
What if there's no going back to boring? What if this is, as tons of morons and idiots like to say constantly, our 'new normal'?Clearly current politics make you feel icky or something, but that's a you problem, and it will be after Biden is elected, too.
Post by: bucket on September 07, 2020, 09:30:52 PM
What if there's no going back to boring? What if this is, as tons of morons and idiots like to say constantly, our 'new normal'?Clearly current politics make you feel icky or something, but that's a you problem, and it will be after Biden is elected, too.
What if Don Jr. runs?!
Post by: _33 on September 07, 2020, 09:32:54 PM
What if there's no going back to boring? What if this is, as tons of morons and idiots like to say constantly, our 'new normal'?Clearly current politics make you feel icky or something, but that's a you problem, and it will be after Biden is elected, too.
Of course it makes me feel icky. It doesn't make you feel icky? :Wha:
Post by: michigancat on September 07, 2020, 09:36:18 PM
What if there's no going back to boring? What if this is, as tons of morons and idiots like to say constantly, our 'new normal'?Clearly current politics make you feel icky or something, but that's a you problem, and it will be after Biden is elected, too.
Of course it makes me feel icky. It doesn't make you feel icky? :Wha:
Aspects of politics do, but I'm comfortable either ignoring them or discussing them without letting them work me into a tizzy. And some things are icky but I think should be addressed, so I can focus energy on correcting those things.
Post by: bucket on September 07, 2020, 09:39:46 PM
What if there's no going back to boring? What if this is, as tons of morons and idiots like to say constantly, our 'new normal'?Clearly current politics make you feel icky or something, but that's a you problem, and it will be after Biden is elected, too.
Of course it makes me feel icky. It doesn't make you feel icky? :Wha:
Aspects of politics do, but I'm comfortable either ignoring them or discussing them without letting them work me into a tizzy. And some things are icky but I think should be addressed, so I can focus energy on correcting those things.
The amount of disinformation is icky. Icky is putting it mildy. It's not new, but it's at siren levels.
Post by: michigancat on September 07, 2020, 09:40:51 PM
Post by: _33 on September 07, 2020, 09:58:55 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 07, 2020, 10:06:38 PM
Just agree with me mich. Agree with me now.I don't know what upsets you so much, it's pretty interesting though. :dunno:
Post by: nicname on September 07, 2020, 10:23:07 PM
Just agree with me mich. Agree with me now.
Is it the general disdain politicians and — even more so — regular people seem to have for each other now regarding most things even remotely political? That’s what makes me feel icky. This is especially true on social media.
It also makes me feel icky when I do it myself.
Post by: Kat Kid on September 07, 2020, 10:36:29 PM
if you have come around to the idea that pretty much no politician are worthy of respect and all should just be yelled at and threatened until they do the right thing, then yeah it is overwhelming and everything sucks all the time.
But you
1) have always said you don't care about politics
2) it doesn't affect you
so may I suggest returning to the grilling thread and just thriving for the last few decades? it isn't hard man. pretty much none of us are going to affect anything anyways, at least just enjoy the mental health benefits.
Why are you back sliding during your prime grilling years?
Post by: _33 on September 07, 2020, 11:05:04 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on September 07, 2020, 11:13:16 PM
Can I not just message board? Just let me message board. Sheesh.
definitely past your prime there
Post by: _33 on September 07, 2020, 11:43:58 PM
Can I not just message board? Just let me message board. Sheesh.
definitely past your prime there
SHEESH
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2020, 06:59:28 AM
ChiCom Joe Biden - Pro (Trump) Vax’er
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2020, 09:16:25 AM
Sad
Post by: chum1 on September 08, 2020, 02:12:08 PM
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1303401160741662722
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2020, 10:15:18 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2020, 10:50:35 PM
(I'm late on this BTW)
Ladies and Gentleman: I give you A C R O N Y N M ! ! !
(https://cdn1.opensecrets.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/01134155/acronym-digital-ads-chart-updated-5.20.2020-title-1.png)
They specialize in creating websites that appear to clay brained BidenVoter useful idiot types to be legit news outlets.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2020, 11:22:45 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 09, 2020, 06:59:54 AM
That post is about BidenVoter tech executives and their dark money PAC. Setting up fake news sites to influence voters in the 2020 general election, BoardLunatic (who only whines and bitches about everything all the time).
Post by: star seed 7 on September 09, 2020, 07:30:21 AM
Then start a new thread, BoardLunatic.
That post is about BidenVoter tech executives and their dark money PAC. Setting up fake news sites to influence voters in the 2020 general election, BoardLunatic (who only whines and bitches about everything all the time).
This is just performance art, right?
Post by: LickNeckey on September 09, 2020, 07:33:05 AM
Then start a new thread, BoardLunatic.
That post is about BidenVoter tech executives and their dark money PAC. Setting up fake news sites to influence voters in the 2020 general election, BoardLunatic (who only whines and bitches about everything all the time).
Conservatives: We must have Dark Money in Politics and will fight for it all the way to the SUPREME COURT!!!
Also Conservatives: Do you see all of this Liberal Tech Dark Money flowing to biden! Ridiculous!!!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 09, 2020, 07:46:01 AM
Then start a new thread, BoardLunatic.
That post is about BidenVoter tech executives and their dark money PAC. Setting up fake news sites to influence voters in the 2020 general election, BoardLunatic (who only whines and bitches about everything all the time).
Conservatives: We must have Dark Money in Politics and will fight for it all the way to the SUPREME COURT!!!
Also Conservatives: Do you see all of this Liberal Tech Dark Money flowing to biden! Ridiculous!!!
BidenVoter: Total Meltdown about dark money, and bot farms and fake news to the point of perpetuating a Russian conspiracy for nearly 4 years (and counting) :jeffy: :jeffy: :jeffy: that cost the RNC millions trying to defend against
Also BidenVoter: Let's put our BidenVoter Tech executives to work with fake websites, and constantly talking of manipulating their platform content to promote "positive change" (or some similar phrase which translates into getting ProgFascists and ProgFascist compliant politicians elected)
Post by: Phil Titola on September 09, 2020, 08:16:05 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 09, 2020, 08:19:28 AM
Dax is the only one on here lured into these fake sites via his curated facebook feed.
Phil Titola: Proud supporter of A C R O N Y M!
Post by: Phil Titola on September 09, 2020, 08:27:54 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/us/politics/democratic-political-campaign-advertising.html
All PACs suck in my mind.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 09, 2020, 08:30:18 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 09, 2020, 08:32:35 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on September 09, 2020, 09:20:30 AM
9/9/2020: Day Phil Titola heard about ACRONYM (but goggled something and pretended to know about it for a long time)
I did just google it but it found it's an old story so thanks for bringing it to our attention 10 months later Dax. Really hard hitting news about PACs
Post by: MakeItRain on September 09, 2020, 11:42:52 AM
Then start a new thread, BoardLunatic.
That post is about BidenVoter tech executives and their dark money PAC. Setting up fake news sites to influence voters in the 2020 general election, BoardLunatic (who only whines and bitches about everything all the time).
This is just performance art, right?
He's unable to see the irony of him flying off the handle on an eight word post not quoting anyone. + awareness points for self identifying that he's a shitposting weirdo - awareness points for being the world's largest hypocrite
Post by: cfbandyman on September 09, 2020, 11:52:25 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 09, 2020, 12:03:15 PM
Then start a new thread, BoardLunatic.
That post is about BidenVoter tech executives and their dark money PAC. Setting up fake news sites to influence voters in the 2020 general election, BoardLunatic (who only whines and bitches about everything all the time).
This is just performance art, right?
He's unable to see the irony of him flying off the handle on an eight word post not quoting anyone. + awareness points for self identifying that he's a shitposting weirdo - awareness points for being the world's largest hypocrite
BoardLunatic enters thread at 2am, decides he doesn't like the narrative in play and/or decides unilaterally that a post is not relevant to thread (when the post is literally about the 2020 General Election) has the usual BoardLunatic meltdown.
Rinse-Repeat
Post by: sys on September 09, 2020, 03:43:14 PM
So I guess this thread is ruined too?
i wish people would just stop interacting with him.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 09, 2020, 04:20:09 PM
Sys Whack-A-Doo (non expert amateur spitballer)
BoardLunatic
Post by: sys on September 09, 2020, 07:18:10 PM
https://twitter.com/BrookeSingman/status/1303736757205205003
Post by: chum1 on September 10, 2020, 01:58:19 PM
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SharpRigidBasil-size_restricted.gif)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 10, 2020, 02:05:06 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 10, 2020, 02:15:42 PM
https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/09/why-president-trumps-hispanic-support-is-growing/
Post by: steve dave on September 10, 2020, 06:13:57 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on September 10, 2020, 10:42:35 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 11, 2020, 01:12:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhlvTj1XYAALzPL?format=jpg&name=large)
I got a spam text from the motherfuckers yesterday too
Post by: Institutional Control on September 11, 2020, 08:16:05 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 11, 2020, 09:53:33 PM
BidenVoter: 1000% ‘Merica (as long as war monger Joe Biden is in charge)
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 11, 2020, 11:22:06 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 12, 2020, 08:14:11 AM
Someone seems triggeredDaBig Dummy: All ‘Merica (as long as a Democrat is President)
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 13, 2020, 08:43:26 AM
Joe “Say Anything” Biden is floating back to the center . . . for now.
https://www.chron.com/news/article/Sanders-shows-concerns-over-Biden-campaign-15562057.php
Post by: chum1 on September 14, 2020, 08:01:27 AM
https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/1305464066970988544
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 14, 2020, 08:16:20 AM
And :lol: LibBot Nation has already hired squadrons of lawyers.
But Trump!!!
:lol: :lol:
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 14, 2020, 09:12:54 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on September 14, 2020, 09:27:55 AM
All it takes is just read the possible (and likely) cluster eff that could happen in Illinois alone and you understand why there will be challenges.
And :lol: LibBot Nation has already hired squadrons of lawyers.
But Trump!!!
:lol: :lol:
Are the Republican's not hiring a bunch of lawyers for this thing? It's pretty standard practice.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 14, 2020, 10:04:52 AM
All it takes is just read the possible (and likely) cluster eff that could happen in Illinois alone and you understand why there will be challenges.
And :lol: LibBot Nation has already hired squadrons of lawyers.
But Trump!!!
:lol: :lol:
Are the Republican's not hiring a bunch of lawyers for this thing? It's pretty standard practice.
It is . . . but I'm just :lol: at the notion that BidenVoterNation isn't prepared to riot and march in with an army of lawyers.
Post by: Trim on September 14, 2020, 10:15:33 AM
Post by: chum1 on September 14, 2020, 10:50:29 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 14, 2020, 10:56:13 AM
I think both sides will try to win.
This is horseshit
Post by: MakeItRain on September 14, 2020, 11:08:37 AM
Does anyone not think that Trump won't vigorously pursue every opportunity possible to contest an election he loses? It should be 100% expected based on his past behavior, right?
https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/1305464066970988544
I think this is alarmist. It's far too dismissive of the 20th Amendment. What Republicans do and don't interpret has no real relevance, they don't have to like it for it to be so. There are lots of democrats still crying about 2000. I think the prospect of Pelosi becoming president is a strong enough deterrent for trump to not have wide ranging support in not accepting the election result.
I think the larger issues will be the insane things he'll do in transition. I think it could be bad enough that the Biden Administration will spend the better part of the first two years cleaning crap up and not really accomplishing anything beyond that which could be a strategy to hit the dems during the midterms as the party that broke their promises.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 14, 2020, 11:13:00 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 14, 2020, 11:26:20 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 14, 2020, 11:32:08 AM
I hope they don't, it's a distraction, eff him. If that's really a big deal I'd rather focus on the larger machine that allowed this to happen.
I think holding public officials accountable to the law they are supposed to uphold is a fundamental element of any functioning government. You aren't going to find any pieces of that larger machine without having an actual criminal trial outside of the framework of the machine. The impeachment trial was a farce.
Post by: Phil Titola on September 14, 2020, 11:48:52 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 14, 2020, 11:49:46 AM
I hope they don't, it's a distraction, eff him. If that's really a big deal I'd rather focus on the larger machine that allowed this to happen.
I think holding public officials accountable to the law they are supposed to uphold is a fundamental element of any functioning government. You aren't going to find any pieces of that larger machine without having an actual criminal trial outside of the framework of the machine. The impeachment trial was a farce.
Well they'd be better served by people who perjured themselves and obstructed the process. William Barr and Mike Pompeo did far greater harm than Donald Trump.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 14, 2020, 11:50:57 AM
I hope they don't, it's a distraction, eff him. If that's really a big deal I'd rather focus on the larger machine that allowed this to happen.
I think holding public officials accountable to the law they are supposed to uphold is a fundamental element of any functioning government. You aren't going to find any pieces of that larger machine without having an actual criminal trial outside of the framework of the machine. The impeachment trial was a farce.
Well they'd be better served by people who perjured themselves and obstructed the process. William Barr and Mike Pompeo did far greater harm than Donald Trump.
Absolutely. I think we have to try Trump first to make it clear that William Barr and Pompeo did anything wrong, though. Then we should prosecute them.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 14, 2020, 12:56:03 PM
https://www.oregonlive.com/today/2013/06/western_wildfires_rage_as_feds.html
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 14, 2020, 12:58:18 PM
Then Joe Biden should have been scorned and relegated to the back row of the Democratic party years ago.
A total disaster.
Post by: sys on September 14, 2020, 04:47:18 PM
a failure to even try would be unacceptable.
Post by: Kat Kid on September 14, 2020, 04:49:09 PM
i agree with rage. holding trump and individuals in the trump administration that broke the law accountable for those actions is the most important task ahead of the biden administration and the country generally.
a failure to even try would be unacceptable.
lol, I have some bad news.
Post by: sys on September 14, 2020, 04:51:56 PM
lol, I have some bad news.
are you from the future, katkid?
Post by: Kat Kid on September 14, 2020, 04:57:11 PM
lol, I have some bad news.
are you from the future, katkid?
no, I just paid attention during the Obama administration.
Trump may face some consequences, but it won't be due to the Biden admin.
Post by: Phil Titola on September 14, 2020, 05:26:11 PM
lol, I have some bad news.
are you from the future, katkid?
no, I just paid attention during the Obama administration.
Trump may face some consequences, but it won't be due to the Biden admin.
Paid attention during the obama admin? I don't understand what you are alluding to here.
Post by: steve dave on September 14, 2020, 05:53:54 PM
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Post by: Kat Kid on September 14, 2020, 06:29:52 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 14, 2020, 06:59:39 PM
Yet you Libs voted 63m strong for a war criminal in 2016.
Good grief.
The biggest advocate for two humanitarian cluster fucks and 3 total civil wars which are still going nearly a decade later, all instigated by the US or US proxies.
We came, we saw, he died (to protect our BFF Sarkozy)
Post by: chum1 on September 14, 2020, 07:12:57 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 15, 2020, 08:36:17 AM
When the Co-Chair of his campaign is owned . . . title/deed/keys by Big Oil.
Sadly, Joe knows that BidenVoter is extremely stupid and will never understand, or care to understand the hypocrisy.
Post by: Havs on September 15, 2020, 10:25:35 AM
https://twitter.com/allisonlhedges/status/1305461876474753024?s=21
Post by: steve dave on September 15, 2020, 02:59:28 PM
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 15, 2020, 03:15:43 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 15, 2020, 03:36:16 PM
deep state 175 year old science magThe Soros family finally made a break through after 5 generations of lobbying
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 15, 2020, 06:30:18 PM
That said #crossposted
https://twitter.com/kyleolson4/status/1305933800313155584?s=21
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 15, 2020, 06:45:58 PM
https://twitter.com/francisbrennan/status/1306002002997059584?s=21
Post by: steve dave on September 15, 2020, 06:47:12 PM
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Post by: michigancat on September 15, 2020, 08:11:55 PM
They got him. He’s done.LOL
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Republicans are really trying hard here. Did you see the one where he had to ask which city he was going to the next day? INCREDIBLE, HE'S LOST IT
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 15, 2020, 08:22:58 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 15, 2020, 08:25:51 PM
https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1305912512265641984?s=21
Post by: sys on September 15, 2020, 08:29:48 PM
https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1306038681837490176
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 15, 2020, 08:32:43 PM
Post by: bucket on September 15, 2020, 08:34:51 PM
goddamn sleepy joe biden.
https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1306038681837490176
The Trump Town Hall really is something.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 15, 2020, 08:40:03 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 15, 2020, 09:22:35 PM
Bill Kristol, Norm Eisen etc etc. Amazing the slugs that are working behind the scenes for BidenVoter Nation. Eisen in particular knows he’s got millions of easily propagandized extremely low IQ BidenVoters at his disposal.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 15, 2020, 09:27:25 PM
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1306055670945460226?s=21
https://twitter.com/ibrahimpols/status/1305924588333944833?s=21
Post by: bucket on September 15, 2020, 10:06:24 PM
goddamn sleepy joe biden.
https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1306038681837490176
lol wut, anyone have a vid of this
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1306041359308996610
Post by: sys on September 15, 2020, 10:36:50 PM
Sorry BernieBro’s, the most corrupt political party in the world continues to crap all over your guy.
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1306055670945460226?s=21
https://twitter.com/ibrahimpols/status/1305924588333944833?s=21
the person speaking is carlos curbelo, until 2018 the republican representative from the 26th district of florida.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 16, 2020, 01:17:26 AM
https://twitter.com/nate_cohn/status/1304754901902340102?s=21
https://twitter.com/allisonlhedges/status/1305461876474753024?s=21
Undecided, lol
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2020, 05:37:21 AM
He’s a Never Trumper, dummy. So your “point” is completely meaningless (as usual) relative to this election cycle.Sorry BernieBro’s, the most corrupt political party in the world continues to crap all over your guy.
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1306055670945460226?s=21
https://twitter.com/ibrahimpols/status/1305924588333944833?s=21
the person speaking is carlos curbelo, until 2018 the republican representative from the 26th district of florida.
A Never Trumper on MSNBC shitting on Bernie for hurting Harris-Biden with Latino’s in Florida.
Only the SysWhackadoo’s of the world don’t understand that.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2020, 05:52:43 AM
It should be noted that the candidate who defeated Carlos Curbelo is a native born Ecuadorian. She (That’s Female) was formerly a highly repressed senior administrator at FIU.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2020, 06:37:32 AM
People are still trying to verify another Joe story about a PTSD Marine.
PTSD from wars that Mega Corrupt Racist War Monger Joe Biden fully supported.
Post by: Kat Kid on September 16, 2020, 08:40:48 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 16, 2020, 08:58:34 AM
goddamn sleepy joe biden.
https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1306038681837490176
lol wut, anyone have a vid of this
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1306041359308996610
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1306055202290544640
Post by: michigancat on September 16, 2020, 09:20:22 AM
Honestly asking why Joe Biden hasn't passed a mask mandate might be the least worst part of that clipgoddamn sleepy joe biden.
https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1306038681837490176
lol wut, anyone have a vid of this
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1306041359308996610
Post by: chum1 on September 16, 2020, 09:40:51 PM
https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1306417719030538240
Post by: chum1 on September 16, 2020, 09:42:34 PM
Post by: wetwillie on September 16, 2020, 09:51:23 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2020, 12:23:20 AM
That's quite an increase.
https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1306417719030538240
Can't wait to see how kemp scrubs 3/4 of those.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2020, 06:12:03 AM
Don’t worry though. Some of the biggest NeoCon/LibraCon thugs and slugs on the planet are already war gaming an overthrow of a Trump electoral win on behalf of a guy who gets off a Climate Arson jet airplane and waves to massive throngs of . . . empty fields. Who BTW is architect of some of the loudest series of racist dog whistles in Washington DC history and a huge war monger.
Show them the love Joe “super predator” Biden!
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Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2020, 07:21:18 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2020, 07:23:11 AM
dax, you are following the playbook to perfectionLol, okay BidenVoter
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2020, 07:51:27 AM
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Post by: Brock Landers on September 17, 2020, 08:31:04 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on September 17, 2020, 08:36:38 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2020, 08:38:02 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2020, 08:46:27 AM
I don't think Trump is going to win PA.That map is basically him coming out ahead in like 5 states he’s 4+ pts behind in. But there IS a chance my single vote decides this thing and it’s not, it’s not something I’m taking lightly.
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Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2020, 08:48:08 AM
I don't think Trump is going to win PA.That map is basically him coming out ahead in like 5 states he’s 4+ pts behind in. But there IS a chance my single vote decides this thing and it’s not, it’s not something I’m taking lightly.
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I'll send up some of the football weekend hostesses I lived next to in Manhattan.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 17, 2020, 08:55:34 AM
I don't think Trump is going to win PA.
I don't even think he is going to win FL.
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2020, 09:11:54 AM
I don't think Trump is going to win PA.
I don't even think he is going to win FL.
yeah or NC, etc. Like I said, this is a dream scenario. Not a "this is going to happen" scenario.
Post by: Institutional Control on September 17, 2020, 12:18:13 PM
Post by: chum1 on September 17, 2020, 12:34:12 PM
What happens if there's a tie in the electoral college?
The House votes or something. But it's like a one vote per state or something where Republicans would hold the advantage.
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2020, 12:34:46 PM
What happens if there's a tie in the electoral college?
trump wins because the tiebreaker is MAGA iirc
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2020, 12:49:55 PM
I don't think Trump is going to win PA.That map is basically him coming out ahead in like 5 states he’s 4+ pts behind in. But there IS a chance my single vote decides this thing and it’s not, it’s not something I’m taking lightly.
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Better chance mine does, sorry bro.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2020, 12:52:10 PM
Post by: nicname on September 17, 2020, 01:28:07 PM
hello, Nebraska swing voter steve dave reporting in to get his dick sucked by both parties.
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I’ve often wondered what makes Nebraska so different than KS in this regard. Is it as simple as Corn vs Wheat and subsidies or something like that?
Post by: nicname on September 17, 2020, 01:33:45 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 17, 2020, 01:34:50 PM
hello, Nebraska swing voter steve dave reporting in to get his dick sucked by both parties.
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I’ve often wondered what makes Nebraska so different than KS in this regard. Is it as simple as Corn vs Wheat and subsidies or something like that?
Nebraska isn't winner take all. Kansas would also have a split vote from time to time if the 3rd District had its own electoral votes.
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2020, 01:37:29 PM
I don't think Trump is going to win PA.That map is basically him coming out ahead in like 5 states he’s 4+ pts behind in. But there IS a chance my single vote decides this thing and it’s not, it’s not something I’m taking lightly.
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Better chance mine does, sorry bro.
hmmmm, maybe
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2020, 01:46:47 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2020, 01:56:58 PM
Not to worry, once elected it'll be softball city in any press conference and Joe can keep saluting and waving at empty fields.
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2020, 02:12:07 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2020, 02:18:55 PM
yeah, that all sounds good
Great input Harris-Biden supporter.
Post by: Brock Landers on September 17, 2020, 02:20:47 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 17, 2020, 02:40:39 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2020, 02:40:59 PM
yeah, that all sounds good
Off the cuff is not something I want my president to think he is good at or do at all. Downgrading someone for being prepared is very weird.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2020, 02:54:11 PM
dax is still clinging to the easily and long ago debunked wave to nobody thing. Is the tank empty bud? Where are you getting your talking points and new material?
Long debunked? :lol:
Joe is 1000% Captain Teleprompter, he can't even handle a simple town hall meeting with it all being scripted and put up on the teleprompter.
Post by: chum1 on September 17, 2020, 03:05:22 PM
Joe is 1000% Captain Teleprompter
I thought Obama was 1000% Captain Teleprompter.
:dunno:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2020, 03:07:05 PM
Joe is 1000% Captain Teleprompter
I thought Obama was 1000% Captain Teleprompter.
:dunno:
Barrack didn't have to go to the Magic Teleprompter to answer pre-scripted town hall questions.
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2020, 03:22:39 PM
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Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2020, 03:48:05 PM
https://twitter.com/john_hudson/status/1306684959957094403
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 17, 2020, 03:51:12 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 17, 2020, 04:01:55 PM
I don't get the pandemic being someone's breaking point. Did anyone actually think he was going to be able to do a capable job under any sort of national disaster scenario before this happened?
you can do worse than "incapable"
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 17, 2020, 04:08:07 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 17, 2020, 04:17:03 PM
More pubs choosing Biden
https://twitter.com/john_hudson/status/1306684959957094403
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deep state obvs
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2020, 08:37:41 PM
I don't get the pandemic being someone's breaking point. Did anyone actually think he was going to be able to do a capable job under any sort of national disaster scenario before this happened?
Was thinking the same thing, like the constant lying isn't enough. However, the pandemic provides for good cover without completely being looked at as a RINO.
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2020, 08:47:51 PM
I don't get the pandemic being someone's breaking point. Did anyone actually think he was going to be able to do a capable job under any sort of national disaster scenario before this happened?
Was thinking the same thing, like the constant lying isn't enough. However, the pandemic provides for good cover without completely being looked at as a RINO.
It's scary how many needed this pandemic to make them change their mind. Guess even scarier are those who still haven't!
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2020, 10:19:34 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2020, 10:23:32 PM
It's cute and endearing.
Hey guys, I'm going to vote for Biden. Man, that was hard. I'm going to just keep saying that to everyone I know.
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2020, 11:16:38 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 18, 2020, 12:54:11 AM
Some total rando says they're going to vote for Biden and Steve and the rest of the BidenBots just get so very happy.
It's cute and endearing.
Hey guys, I'm going to vote for Biden. Man, that was hard. I'm going to just keep saying that to everyone I know.
Just @seriouscat420 already and stop being coy.
Post by: nicname on September 18, 2020, 12:59:36 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 18, 2020, 05:54:22 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-newsom-harris-photo-op
Post by: star seed 7 on September 18, 2020, 07:02:36 AM
I thought wacky was voting for Biden?
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Allegedly, I have my doubts
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 18, 2020, 12:25:13 PM
Saving all people from all harm.
That’s why I’m a BidenVoter.
https://twitter.com/realsaavedra/status/1306763697772085250?s=21
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 18, 2020, 12:29:10 PM
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Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2020, 01:26:14 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2020, 01:29:59 PM
steve dave and dax/every single person from Meade, KS
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 18, 2020, 01:38:02 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 18, 2020, 01:41:58 PM
https://twitter.com/toreyvanoot/status/1307020299964211201?s=20
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 18, 2020, 01:47:16 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 18, 2020, 01:52:23 PM
On brand rating: 127/100
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1307028555776360448?s=20
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 18, 2020, 02:01:06 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on September 18, 2020, 02:17:37 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 18, 2020, 02:36:17 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 18, 2020, 02:37:00 PM
Thanks for the contributions grandpa
Just grateful you haven't been drowned by your owners. :pray: :pray: :pray:
Post by: sys on September 18, 2020, 03:50:58 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 19, 2020, 10:12:52 AM
Post by: catastrophe on September 19, 2020, 02:25:24 PM
That said, I don’t think Biden even gives the idea serious consideration if he wins.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 19, 2020, 03:17:45 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 19, 2020, 03:57:27 PM
Or every time LibDerp Nation isn’t in total control and not every thing is going LibDerp Nation’s way. Quit having a total meltdown and trying to change all the rules.LOL MPOS Chuck Schumer is already talking expanding the SCOTUS.
They should probably do a better job of framing the Republican au jus of political power as a moral and patriotic compass over the Supreme Court et al as a segue into 2021. But maybe Senate and Trump can decide to well not capitalize over corpse :dunno:
-180 on immigration - Check
-Eliminate the Electoral College - Check
-Expand the SCOTUS - Check
-Saddle up to the Dick Cheney wing - Check
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 19, 2020, 08:51:08 PM
https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1307491919384260609
Post by: sys on September 20, 2020, 07:25:02 PM
one caveat is that a lot of the spending could be reserving media time for the future.
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1307831900489289736
Post by: sys on September 20, 2020, 07:30:16 PM
https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1307828298635005953
Post by: sys on September 20, 2020, 07:32:10 PM
https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1307830409141661696
Post by: chum1 on September 20, 2020, 07:47:26 PM
https://twitter.com/alaynatreene/status/1307839722786557953
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2020, 09:09:37 PM
Post by: chum1 on September 21, 2020, 12:18:08 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on September 21, 2020, 06:13:51 PM
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Post by: sys on September 21, 2020, 07:28:44 PM
https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1308198252181946368
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 21, 2020, 10:37:15 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 22, 2020, 08:27:25 AM
this is a lot of money.a lot of wealthy and non-wealthy people who have had a comfortable lifetime ignoring politics are now begrudgingly required to pay attention.
https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1308198252181946368
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 22, 2020, 08:38:48 AM
But that's 2020 with BidenVoter Useful Idiot Nation.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 22, 2020, 08:41:34 AM
Brilliance
Post by: Kat Kid on September 22, 2020, 09:43:48 AM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 22, 2020, 10:15:16 AM
this is a lot of money.a lot of wealthy and non-wealthy people who have had a comfortable lifetime ignoring politics are now begrudgingly required to pay attention.
https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1308198252181946368
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Precisely. Opened my wallet a lot this weekend.
Post by: chum1 on September 22, 2020, 10:25:30 AM
anyone that still sincerely believes in stuff like "democratic norms" or "comity" or "process" is hopelessly naive.
tbh I'm not sure who Biden's audience is when he says stuff like that.
Lots and lots of moderate voters who are perpetually sick and tired of those gosh darn clowns in Washington.
Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2020, 08:20:52 AM
https://twitter.com/hughhewitt/status/1308717958756261888
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 08:24:20 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 08:54:49 AM
Two extremely huge thumbs up. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 09:21:46 AM
Including millions of dollars of wire transfers from Ye Jianming, founder of CEFC China Energy Company, long considered a commercial front for the Chinese People's Liberation Army. Jianming served as a senior official in the China Association for International Friendly Contacts, also long considered a front organization for the CCP-PLA. Involved in extensive espionage, intellectual property theft and recruitment of agents for Chinese intelligence in the United States and elsewhere.
Biden Family Inc. also played a role in assisting PLA front organizations in the acquisition of various geo-strategic assets around the globe.
Numerous transactions between Biden Family Inc and entities in China and the Ukraine tripped off SAR's (not the virus) aka Suspicious Activities Reports from banks to the Treasury Department.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 09:34:15 AM
Congrats to Biden Family Inc. for getting this guy disappeared.
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/12/asia/patrick-ho-ye-jianming-cefc-trial-intl/
Post by: Kat Kid on September 23, 2020, 09:35:14 AM
Where is his cash?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 09:42:11 AM
The Bush family has a little ranch and a nice house in Kennebunkport (sp??), the elder had a little fishing boat and W drives around in a Ford pick-up truck. Yet underneath it all they're worth millions.
You act like these political families are gonna run around in Mega-Yachts.
Post by: Kat Kid on September 23, 2020, 09:43:41 AM
LOL.
The Bush family has a little ranch and a nice house in Kennebunkport (sp??), the elder had a little fishing boat and W drives around in a Ford pick-up truck. Yet underneath it all they're worth millions.
You act like these political families are gonna run around in Mega-Yachts.
The Bush family is worth way more than the Bidens, what are you talking about?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 09:46:02 AM
LOL.
The Bush family has a little ranch and a nice house in Kennebunkport (sp??), the elder had a little fishing boat and W drives around in a Ford pick-up truck. Yet underneath it all they're worth millions.
You act like these political families are gonna run around in Mega-Yachts.
The Bush family is worth way more than the Bidens, what are you talking about?
Yet you wouldn't have the first clue, unless you actually studied the situation closely.
The Biden's (plural) are now worth millions, KK. So just stop.
Post by: chum1 on September 23, 2020, 09:51:57 AM
The Biden's (plural) are now worth millions, KK. So just stop.
Biden's already locked down $3B from the BoC when he was Veep
Post by: chum1 on September 23, 2020, 09:53:13 AM
I predict Pres Biden is worth $10 to $15B for the Biden family (and the ChiComs).
For anyone else curious, $15B would make someone the 80th richest person in the entire world.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 23, 2020, 09:55:20 AM
I am a goddam genius and not mushy in the head though.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 23, 2020, 09:59:03 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 09:59:38 AM
The Biden's (plural) are now worth millions, KK. So just stop.Biden's already locked down $3B from the BoC when he was Veep
The number is in dispute, but it was somewhere between $1.5 to $3B.
But the usual suspects wrote volumes of articles and always managed to inject words like "murky" and "unclear" as it relates to Biden Family Inc and China. On top of, "while these dealings don't appear to be illegal, they do call into question the ethics . . . ".
Like I always say, you guys can circle the wagons and roll out the explanations like no else in the world.
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 23, 2020, 10:18:34 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 10:21:08 AM
It's okay if U.S. politicians and their immediate family get huge sums of money from Chinese Government backed interests as long as those politicians are Democrats (DaBig Psycho)
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 23, 2020, 10:24:22 AM
Any discussion points that you would like to add to this conversation DaBig Psycho?It’s just hilarious that you constantly bitch about this when the current president has gotten so much money(and still does) from foreign governments. The reason you don’t say anything tho is because, you know, dear leader and all.
It's okay if U.S. politicians and their immediate family get huge sums of money from Chinese Government backed interests as long as those politicians are Democrats (DaBig Psycho)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 10:29:03 AM
Any discussion points that you would like to add to this conversation DaBig Psycho?It’s just hilarious that you constantly bitch about this when the current president has gotten so much money(and still does) from foreign governments. The reason you don’t say anything tho is because, you know, dear leader and all.
It's okay if U.S. politicians and their immediate family get huge sums of money from Chinese Government backed interests as long as those politicians are Democrats (DaBig Psycho)
The current president was a private citizen and business man prior to winning the presidency.
ChiCom Joe and family orchestrated all of these business dealings while ChiCom Joe was the VPOTUS, going so far as taking his son with him on official U.S. diplomatic missions and his son meeting with Chinese (Government) business interests while ChiCom Joe was negotiating trade deals with the Chinese government just down the road.
Your whataboutism is noted and your rock brain is already understood.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 23, 2020, 10:31:12 AM
The guy who used to own the Texas Rangers has money? No way. Doesn't he drive a pickup truck?
You need to research the situation. You need to research it rough ridin' CLOSELY
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 23, 2020, 10:32:22 AM
I’m talking about the current president of the United States not someone who lost the election almost 4 years ago or the previous president who first took office almost 12 years ago. The lack of self awareness on your part is always astonishing.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 10:32:55 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 10:35:29 AM
My whataboutism? LOL
I’m talking about the current president of the United States not someone who lost the election almost 4 years ago or the previous president who first took office almost 12 years ago. The lack of self awareness on your part is always astonishing.
The Biden Family Business Dealings with China and the Ukraine while he was VPOTUS are tracked all the way into 2017.
I mean :lol: :lol:
Just tap out, you're not intellectually capable of even having this conversation.
A total and absolute lack of awareness relative to political and world events that impact our world today on display every single day with DaBig Psycho.
Sad
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 23, 2020, 10:36:32 AM
9/23/2020: A SlowDug Rage Day
This is your worst tapout strategy and you have several. When getting humiliated like today you need to do that thing where you run away from the board for a few weeks.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 10:38:38 AM
9/23/2020: A SlowDug Rage Day
This is your worst tapout strategy and you have several. When getting humiliated like today you need to do that thing where you run away from the board for a few weeks.
Now SlowDug is doubling down on the rage day, how on brand.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 23, 2020, 10:44:09 AM
LOL.
The Bush family has a little ranch and a nice house in Kennebunkport (sp??), the elder had a little fishing boat and W drives around in a Ford pick-up truck. Yet underneath it all they're worth millions.
You act like these political families are gonna run around in Mega-Yachts.
The Bush family is worth way more than the Bidens, what are you talking about?
Yet you wouldn't have the first clue, unless you actually studied the situation closely.
The Biden's (plural) are now worth millions, KK. So just stop.
:ROFL:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 10:47:30 AM
Good Grief . . . you're just 1,000 suns worth of rage this morning.
Sad :frown: :frown:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 23, 2020, 10:53:14 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 10:56:33 AM
It's a mystery to me how anyone knows anything about them. They are a very private family. I mean only 2 of them have been president and only one of them is a daytime talk show host. It's not like 3 of them have been president or something.
The average person doesn't understand the entire history of the business dealings of the Bush family.
Just like the average person doesn't understand the Kennedy's and other similar political families with any depth.
They hear things, they see what some idiot blurts out on CNN or Fox, but they have no real clue as to the origins and the history of the families and their collective empires.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 23, 2020, 10:58:29 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 11:04:17 AM
Let's try and refocus here.
Elena Baturina, widowed wife of former Moscow mayor Yuri Luzhkov wired $3.5 million dollars to Rosemont-Seneca Partners in 2014 (in DaBig Psycho mind, the world didn't even exist then).
She transferred another $250K to Rosemont-Seneca in 2015.
These wire transfers were all flagged by Banks/Treasury as it is reported that Baturina has ties to sex trafficking and prostitution.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 23, 2020, 11:04:29 AM
Wait.... Are the Kennedy's rich? :surprised:
don't ask us. Study the situation closely. jfc dude
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 23, 2020, 11:05:10 AM
Wait.... Are the Kennedy's rich? :surprised:
I don't think JFK Jr is. Everyone thinks he's dead, so how would he access the fortune? That is what makes him such a fantastic Q operative.
Post by: Kat Kid on September 23, 2020, 11:37:55 AM
The Biden's (plural) are now worth millions, KK. So just stop.Biden's already locked down $3B from the BoC when he was Veep
The number is in dispute, but it was somewhere between $1.5 to $3B.
But the usual suspects wrote volumes of articles and always managed to inject words like "murky" and "unclear" as it relates to Biden Family Inc and China. On top of, "while these dealings don't appear to be illegal, they do call into question the ethics . . . ".
Like I always say, you guys can circle the wagons and roll out the explanations like no else in the world.
so you are claiming that Biden is worth between AT LEAST $1.5 and $3 billion now?
Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2020, 11:59:34 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2020, 11:59:57 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 23, 2020, 12:15:15 PM
2. investigate former president's finances closely
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 12:56:39 PM
Chinese Communists-Check
Russians-Check
Ukrainians-Check
I believe I saw the Vietnamese mentioned at some point as well.
ChiCom Joe Global got around in Air Force 2.
Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2020, 03:40:53 PM
https://twitter.com/citypages/status/1308854421590343689
Post by: michigancat on September 23, 2020, 03:43:52 PM
LOL
https://twitter.com/citypages/status/1308854421590343689
Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2020, 03:45:39 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 23, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 03:54:22 PM
Post by: sys on September 23, 2020, 03:54:44 PM
Here is what I don't get. Clinton family got rich. How could Biden have a 40 year + history of delivering for the banking, big pharma, and credit card industries and THEN have his idiot kid pull in some Ukraine/China cash and only have a few pharma click pens, some financial mugs to show for it? Was it all for the love of the game?
Where is his cash?
he was the senator representing the state of delaware.
he famously didn't own any stock while serving as a senator. some people love power more than money, and he presumably felt not profiting from his position enhanced his ability to retain it and advance even higher.
as a side note. you should stop reading jacobin and the intercept. that crap rots the brain. you're far too cynical and it impairs your ability to perceive reality.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 23, 2020, 03:56:55 PM
LOL.
The Bush family has a little ranch and a nice house in Kennebunkport (sp??), the elder had a little fishing boat and W drives around in a Ford pick-up truck. Yet underneath it all they're worth millions.
You act like these political families are gonna run around in Mega-Yachts.
LOL, haven't seen that Kennebunkport property, huh?
Post by: star seed 7 on September 23, 2020, 04:04:18 PM
:lol: JOE BIDEN, BLM, AND ANARCHY RULES! :lol:
https://twitter.com/citypages/status/1308854421590343689
Lol, I saw a local news thing in texas (I think) about some trump guys who were mad that "antifa" spray painted swastikas on their trump yard signs
Was also blue paint like above. I love that the maga brain thinks "well they are democrats so they would use blue paint prob"
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 04:08:57 PM
There's houses like that all up and down the Eastern seaboard.
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 23, 2020, 06:18:32 PM
Come on man.
There's houses like that all up and down the Eastern seaboard.
Sure, all owned by multimillionaires. I'm not following the conversation closely, are you attempting to say that a man who owned and sold the same major league team that signed the first $250 million contract in sports history, has the same wealth as the Bidens?
Post by: chum1 on September 23, 2020, 07:02:27 PM
https://twitter.com/PeterHamby/status/1308818666419417088
Post by: sys on September 23, 2020, 07:19:45 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on September 23, 2020, 07:24:41 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 23, 2020, 07:32:56 PM
I really hate all.politival ads and wish they couldn't do it. The fact that spend equals winning many times is gross.I got this today and it was an immediate block after I texted back
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 23, 2020, 08:00:51 PM
Post by: sys on September 23, 2020, 08:04:00 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2020, 10:59:59 PM
Come on man.
There's houses like that all up and down the Eastern seaboard.
Sure, all owned by multimillionaires. I'm not following the conversation closely, are you attempting to say that a man who owned and sold the same major league team that signed the first $250 million contract in sports history, has the same wealth as the Bidens?
Nope. Just don't bring the Lunch Pail Joe BS into play. The Biden's used Joe's office to make themselves quite wealthy.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 23, 2020, 11:40:00 PM
Come on man.
There's houses like that all up and down the Eastern seaboard.
Sure, all owned by multimillionaires. I'm not following the conversation closely, are you attempting to say that a man who owned and sold the same major league team that signed the first $250 million contract in sports history, has the same wealth as the Bidens?
Nope. Just don't bring the Lunch Pail Joe BS into play. The Biden's used Joe's office to make themselves quite wealthy.
How so?
Post by: Phil Titola on September 24, 2020, 10:29:12 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/politics/paul-selva-general-joe-biden/index.html
I'll ask again, who is the biggest most legit organization who has publicly backed Trump?
Post by: chum1 on September 24, 2020, 11:09:28 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 24, 2020, 11:26:34 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 24, 2020, 01:29:18 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 24, 2020, 01:30:24 PM
500 National Security advisors backing Biden.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/politics/paul-selva-general-joe-biden/index.html
I'll ask again, who is the biggest most legit organization who has publicly backed Trump?
the boogaloos
Post by: steve dave on September 24, 2020, 01:43:19 PM
VA, checked again after seeing it and the page is a little better now, missing the satellite location dates/times, person I called was happy to give me the info tho.
pretty cool that you can vote already. our mail in ballots come on the 28th.
Post by: Phil Titola on September 24, 2020, 01:45:49 PM
VA, checked again after seeing it and the page is a little better now, missing the satellite location dates/times, person I called was happy to give me the info tho.
pretty cool that you can vote already. our mail in ballots come on the 28th.
We could vote in person "absentee" starting last Tuesday. I'm sure I'll be "out of the county" on election day so I'll be going in soon.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 24, 2020, 10:28:08 PM
500 National Security advisors backing Biden.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/politics/paul-selva-general-joe-biden/index.html
I'll ask again, who is the biggest most legit organization who has publicly backed Trump?
NRA
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 25, 2020, 05:21:04 AM
Congrats once again to Phil Titola and BidenVoter Nation for fully aligning your party with the Dick Cheney Wing of politics. The Harris-Biden Bombs Away ticket appreciates your support.
In other news, the United States is pushing both China and Russia into signing on to a new multi-lateral START treaty which reduces both nuclear weapons and WMD weapons delivery systems.
This of course has to absolutely :curse: :curse: the Party of Perpetual War and their advocates for Perpetual War/Conflict. On the flip side there's also the usual hand wringing about how the multi-lateral agreement is a bridge too far and it will start a new arms race. Pro Tip: We're already in a new arms race . . . so congrats once again to BidenVoter Nation for playing both sides of the fence all cus OrangeMan-Bad.
You're just as insane as the last mad woman you ran for POTUS.
Sad
Post by: MakeItRain on September 25, 2020, 06:53:18 AM
These 500 National Security Advisors are one of the biggest collections of Perpetual War advocates that have ever been cobbled together.
Congrats once again to Phil Titola and BidenVoter Nation for fully aligning your party with the Dick Cheney Wing of politics. The Harris-Biden Bombs Away ticket appreciates your support.
In other news, the United States is pushing both China and Russia into signing on to a new multi-lateral START treaty which reduces both nuclear weapons and WMD weapons delivery systems.
This of course has to absolutely :curse: :curse: the Party of Perpetual War and their advocates for Perpetual War/Conflict. On the flip side there's also the usual hand wringing about how the multi-lateral agreement is a bridge too far and it will start a new arms race. Pro Tip: We're already in a new arms race . . . so congrats once again to BidenVoter Nation for playing both sides of the fence all cus OrangeMan-Bad.
You're just as insane as the last mad woman you ran for POTUS.
Sad
Breathe
Post by: steve dave on September 25, 2020, 08:14:05 AM
A lot of farmer groups but that’s more niche probably. Trump has kept the delicious AND WELL DESERVED farmer socialism flowing.500 National Security advisors backing Biden.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/politics/paul-selva-general-joe-biden/index.html
I'll ask again, who is the biggest most legit organization who has publicly backed Trump?
NRA
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 25, 2020, 08:22:32 AM
Post by: chum1 on September 25, 2020, 08:46:33 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on September 25, 2020, 08:49:54 AM
Is kid rock an organization?
movement
Post by: chum1 on September 25, 2020, 11:23:37 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 25, 2020, 11:25:58 AM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 25, 2020, 12:07:12 PM
Is kid rock an organization?
movement
diety
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 25, 2020, 12:10:34 PM
If Texas turns blue the republican party will never win another election in their current form. which is good, because the current form sucks absolute crap.
I don't know if I see Texas turning blue this time because an ever-slimming majority of Texans are still idiot hicks, but I do see it happening in the near future. And at worst this Bidenmentum is gonna help the downballot'rs in the way that Beto did with judges in 2018. That's about as good as The Party of Perpetual War can hope for this election, imo.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 25, 2020, 12:13:50 PM
If Texas turns blue the republican party will never win another election in their current form. which is good, because the current form sucks absolute crap.
No doubt. If Blue wins Senate and White House this election they will keep it until GOP adjusts their political ties and views on many issues. If GOP does not adjust, it could get historically lopsided over the next 16-24 years. The McConnells, Cruz's and Grahams of the GOP are heavy contributors in making it a reality.
Post by: steve dave on September 25, 2020, 12:56:19 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 25, 2020, 01:15:16 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on September 25, 2020, 02:47:13 PM
Biden wins both electoral and popular
Senate 52+ for Dems
pick ups from most to least likely
Colorado
Maine
Arizona
North Carolina
Montana
Iowa
(maaaaaaaybe) South Carolina
losing Doug Jones
Republicans hold hearings and get the nominee in the lame duck session after getting rolled.
Democrats hem and haw but don't expand the court. At best we get DC statehood.
Post by: Phil Titola on September 25, 2020, 02:58:36 PM
Fraternal Order of Police because they love to crack skulls.
This is probably the answer so far. They have been going the way of the NRA legit wise though.
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 25, 2020, 08:17:06 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on September 25, 2020, 09:10:28 PM
They will do a Covid bill and some sort of climate change legislation, but it will be like tax credits or some dumb crap that will launch a million solyndra ipo’s and TSLA stock to the moon off tax credits. It will suck ass and change absolutely nothing.KK's election prediction feel free to own me on this if I'm wrong
Biden wins both electoral and popular
Senate 52+ for Dems
pick ups from most to least likely
Colorado
Maine
Arizona
North Carolina
Montana
Iowa
(maaaaaaaybe) South Carolina
losing Doug Jones
Republicans hold hearings and get the nominee in the lame duck session after getting rolled.
Democrats hem and haw but don't expand the court. At best we get DC statehood.
Hmmm, are you including other policy as well? My gut says if they ditch the filibuster for DC for example then they'd have a consensus on other stuff they'd want to pass. Seems weird to just do it to add DC, healthcare and covid action sounds reasonable. Dunno if they'd go for climate action/infrastructure. Depending on your views what they could do with healthcare may be deemed too incremental or meh.
Could see them just having the majority and not doing anything or not flipping it entirely.
No Medicare 4 All no GND, no UBI, just shut the eff up and be happy we aren’t trump, lose the senate in the mid terms and then gridlock.
Cool!
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Post by: nicname on September 25, 2020, 09:28:52 PM
What in the world? Voting rights
https://kansasstate.forums.rivals.com/threads/do-you-support-the-voting-system-as-is.122605/
Post by: sys on September 25, 2020, 09:33:47 PM
They will do a Covid bill and some sort of climate change legislation, but it will be like tax credits or some dumb crap that will launch a million solyndra ipo’s and TSLA stock to the moon off tax credits. It will suck ass and change absolutely nothing.
No Medicare 4 All no GND, no UBI, just shut the eff up and be happy we aren’t trump, lose the senate in the mid terms and then gridlock.
Cool!
this is so dumb. they're not going to pass anything because they won't have the votes. it's not because they're not fighting hard enough or they're all in the thrall of corporations or any of that brain-dead drivel.
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 25, 2020, 09:39:09 PM
For anyone with a login...I haven’t logged in over there in probably a year or two....the random account I’ve used for a decade still hasn’t changed LOL
What in the world? Voting rights
https://kansasstate.forums.rivals.com/threads/do-you-support-the-voting-system-as-is.122605/
Post by: MakeItRain on September 25, 2020, 10:09:27 PM
For anyone with a login...
What in the world? Voting rights
https://kansasstate.forums.rivals.com/threads/do-you-support-the-voting-system-as-is.122605/
You need a login for the world forum? Anyway, here is the OP for the thread.
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In my opinion it needs to be slightly more difficult to vote, not everyone should be allowed to just show up with zero knowledge of our country’s governmental system. I think something like having to name the current President and VP, your state’s senators, and your current representative in the house, all factual things so there is no question if they are right or wrong. Also you need to have a valid photo Id. Thoughts?
Here's another post the same, dipshit, downgrade poster had in the same thread
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So you think biden would win? You’re telling me most of these people at the riots could name all 9 Supreme Court justices
It would have been hilarious if these idiots were being ironic, unfortunately they were not.
Post by: nicname on September 25, 2020, 10:22:07 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 25, 2020, 10:37:00 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on September 26, 2020, 07:09:14 AM
This gets it backwards. Biden says he would veto a GND or Medicare 4 All so of course they don’t have 2/3rds majority.
They will do a Covid bill and some sort of climate change legislation, but it will be like tax credits or some dumb crap that will launch a million solyndra ipo’s and TSLA stock to the moon off tax credits. It will suck ass and change absolutely nothing.
No Medicare 4 All no GND, no UBI, just shut the eff up and be happy we aren’t trump, lose the senate in the mid terms and then gridlock.
Cool!
this is so dumb. they're not going to pass anything because they won't have the votes. it's not because they're not fighting hard enough or they're all in the thrall of corporations or any of that brain-dead drivel.
They also aren’t going to suddenly turn Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi in to Mitch McConnel ramming through the Obamacare repeal in regards to these big new programs. Saying this is all Manchin’s fault or whatever and leftists are dumb is just an excuse. If they have 53 or 54 votes they could tell Manchin to eff off. The problem is none of the major figures want to do anything big even if they do have the votes! Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer are not going to whip votes for Medicare 4 All or really much of anything worth a crap.
All that is on offer for now and forever is “we’re not republicans.” It will probably be enough to hold off a very unpopular president and party but they will get crushed in the midterms.
Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2020, 07:47:55 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 26, 2020, 10:13:27 AM
This gets it backwards. Biden says he would veto a GND or Medicare 4 All so of course they don’t have 2/3rds majority.
They will do a Covid bill and some sort of climate change legislation, but it will be like tax credits or some dumb crap that will launch a million solyndra ipo’s and TSLA stock to the moon off tax credits. It will suck ass and change absolutely nothing.
No Medicare 4 All no GND, no UBI, just shut the eff up and be happy we aren’t trump, lose the senate in the mid terms and then gridlock.
Cool!
this is so dumb. they're not going to pass anything because they won't have the votes. it's not because they're not fighting hard enough or they're all in the thrall of corporations or any of that brain-dead drivel.
They also aren’t going to suddenly turn Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi in to Mitch McConnel ramming through the Obamacare repeal in regards to these big new programs. Saying this is all Manchin’s fault or whatever and leftists are dumb is just an excuse. If they have 53 or 54 votes they could tell Manchin to eff off. The problem is none of the major figures want to do anything big even if they do have the votes! Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer are not going to whip votes for Medicare 4 All or really much of anything worth a crap.
All that is on offer for now and forever is “we’re not republicans.” It will probably be enough to hold off a very unpopular president and party but they will get crushed in the midterms.
Beautifully put
Post by: MakeItRain on September 26, 2020, 06:56:41 PM
Has Biden said he'd veto MFA or the GND explicitly, actually asking as I may have missed it. I'd be surprised if he would given the chance (but that's all head games in the same vein as supporting alot of progressive positions, even more moderate versions, this campaign cycle and not going after the filibuster - unless like waiting many years to continue to build a large enough coalition is okie dokes). Or is your point that by not supporting/campaigning for them he's basically not allowing it to pass through Congress.
His point is that Biden, historically, and Schumer and Pelosi now don't have the courage to push transformative legislation ahead. These things are essentially nonstarters because the democratic leadership has no interest in doing anything other than not being Republicans which will get you the majority for two years every decade or so.
Post by: Kat Kid on September 26, 2020, 08:38:05 PM
Has Biden said he'd veto MFA or the GND explicitly, actually asking as I may have missed it. I'd be surprised if he would given the chance (but that's all head games in the same vein as supporting alot of progressive positions, even more moderate versions, this campaign cycle and not going after the filibuster - unless like waiting many years to continue to build a large enough coalition is okie dokes). Or is your point that by not supporting/campaigning for them he's basically not allowing it to pass through Congress.On Medicare 4 All Biden has been explicit about this.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/biden-says-he-wouldd-veto-medicare-for-all-as-coronavirus-focuses-attention-on-health.html
The green new deal claim is more of a stretch but Biden wants to keep fracking and expands the time horizon for zero emissions by 20 years from the GND and eliminates a lot of the jobs programs and other elements to get the cost down. Make of that what you will.
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Post by: Kat Kid on September 26, 2020, 08:40:48 PM
Democrats rammed through the ACA. And the lesson they should have learned since is that they're not passing anything else unless they ram it through.Really worth remembering that Obama probably could’ve got the public option through but instead tried to negotiate with McConnell and the right wing Dems and got kneecap’d. They did use reconciliation, but they hardly “rammed it through.”
Post by: kim carnes on September 26, 2020, 08:47:01 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 26, 2020, 08:53:43 PM
Man, the left must really think the American people are slow witted dumb fucks by naming their signature plans Medicare for all and the green new deal.I’m not saying the left are competent at all but I can say for certain that a huge number of the American people are slow witted dumb fucks.
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Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2020, 08:55:08 PM
Democrats rammed through the ACA. And the lesson they should have learned since is that they're not passing anything else unless they ram it through.Really worth remembering that Obama probably could’ve got the public option through but instead tried to negotiate with McConnell and the right wing Dems and got kneecap’d. They did use reconciliation, but they hardly “rammed it through.”
No Republicans voted for it and all of them went insane with rage over it. I can't imagine ramming someting through to a greater degree.
Post by: Kat Kid on September 26, 2020, 09:46:26 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/01/set-health-record-straight-republicans-helped-craft-obamacare-ross-baker-column/523952001/Democrats rammed through the ACA. And the lesson they should have learned since is that they're not passing anything else unless they ram it through.Really worth remembering that Obama probably could’ve got the public option through but instead tried to negotiate with McConnell and the right wing Dems and got kneecap’d. They did use reconciliation, but they hardly “rammed it through.”
No Republicans voted for it and all of them went insane with rage over it. I can't imagine ramming someting through to a greater degree.
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2020, 08:02:45 AM
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Post by: Kat Kid on September 27, 2020, 08:31:29 AM
The ACA began with quite a few people including Obama wanting a public option, and that was basically impossible because the Obama admin decided it was very important to court Max Baucus and Chuck Grassley and take them seriously, instead of just telling their conference what was going to happen and nut cutting.
It is worth comparing what McConnell did. He threatened pulling Chuck Grassley’s seniority, his prime committee appointments, access to the Republican Senate funds all because he was NEGOTIATING with Dems. Not even that he was going to vote for the bill, just for inserting republican friendly amendments (THAT THE DEMS MOSTLY KEPT IN ANYWAYS EVEN THOUGH THEY GOT ZERO REPUBLICAN VOTES)
So to review, McConell was going to torch any republican senators entire bloodline for talking to Dems, and Dems were actively reaching out to try and get 1-2 republican votes. In the end? Not even Susan Collins or Olympia Snow came on board because intense pressure from your own party is always more effective than goodies from the other side.
Post by: Trim on September 27, 2020, 09:00:45 AM
Post by: sys on September 27, 2020, 09:36:31 PM
On Medicare 4 All Biden has been explicit about this.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/biden-says-he-wouldd-veto-medicare-for-all-as-coronavirus-focuses-attention-on-health.html
The green new deal claim is more of a stretch but Biden wants to keep fracking and expands the time horizon for zero emissions by 20 years from the GND and eliminate a lot of the jobs programs and other elements to get the cost down. Make of that what you will.
if you open the link that you provide, you'll see that biden is not at all explicit about vetoing m4a. in fact he completely dodges that question and instead responds exactly as you'd expect a candidate not campaigning on m4a in a primary against an opponent who is - by outlining the reasons why he doesn't support it and instead has a different plan.
biden's climate change plan is both very good and far more radical than anything that could conceivably pass the senate. if they get a crippled version through with a quarter of what's in biden's plan it will be the most significant legislation of the 21st century thus far.
Post by: sys on September 27, 2020, 09:41:13 PM
The problem of course is that any “big” policy agenda is going to have enormous opposition and so if the base case is that you want to build consensus first, you will basically not get much of anything done.
The ACA began with quite a few people including Obama wanting a public option, and that was basically impossible because the Obama admin decided it was very important to court Max Baucus and Chuck Grassley and take them seriously, instead of just telling their conference what was going to happen and nut cutting.
It is worth comparing what McConnell did. He threatened pulling Chuck Grassley’s seniority, his prime committee appointments, access to the Republican Senate funds all because he was NEGOTIATING with Dems. Not even that he was going to vote for the bill, just for inserting republican friendly amendments (THAT THE DEMS MOSTLY KEPT IN ANYWAYS EVEN THOUGH THEY GOT ZERO REPUBLICAN VOTES)
So to review, McConell was going to torch any republican senators entire bloodline for talking to Dems, and Dems were actively reaching out to try and get 1-2 republican votes. In the end? Not even Susan Collins or Olympia Snow came on board because intense pressure from your own party is always more effective than goodies from the other side.
1. obamacare was negotiated down to get 60 dem votes, not to get any 'pub votes.
2. the reason the pub caucus votes together more than the dem caucus is because there are very few pub senators in blue states and not many more from purple states while there are quite a few dem senators from red and purple states. in 2008 that was much more the case. you can look back at that 60 senator majority and it is filled with senators from states that are now inconceivable.
Post by: sys on September 27, 2020, 09:49:46 PM
This gets it backwards. Biden says he would veto a GND or Medicare 4 All so of course they don’t have 2/3rds majority.
They also aren’t going to suddenly turn Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi in to Mitch McConnel ramming through the Obamacare repeal in regards to these big new programs. Saying this is all Manchin’s fault or whatever and leftists are dumb is just an excuse. If they have 53 or 54 votes they could tell Manchin to eff off. The problem is none of the major figures want to do anything big even if they do have the votes! Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer are not going to whip votes for Medicare 4 All or really much of anything worth a crap.
All that is on offer for now and forever is “we’re not republicans.” It will probably be enough to hold off a very unpopular president and party but they will get crushed in the midterms.
m4a wouldn't get 40 votes. the gnd is a non-binding resolution that the senate republicans brought to a vote because they thought they could trap dems into voting for it (and dems refused to).
you still need 60 votes in the senate, not 50 or 54 and i don't share your optimism that the dems are likely to get 53 or 54. and if they do, manchin isn't the only red state dem that will be leary of voting against his constituents' policy preferences.
the idea that you just need leadership or the president to push senators harder and you can magically get them to vote with you is just so fundamentally wrong. even the pubs, whose leadership you laud, got essentially nothing out of unified control of the federal government. not a single thing they campaigned on or wanted in two years of control except a tax cut that will be reversed if the dems take the senate.
Post by: sys on September 27, 2020, 10:07:18 PM
if they get a crippled version through with a quarter of what's in biden's plan it will be the most significant legislation of the 21st century thus far.
depending on your pov, p.r. statehood might be more significant legislation, i guess. and it might have a chance.
Post by: Kat Kid on September 28, 2020, 07:43:37 AM
On Medicare 4 All Biden has been explicit about this.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/biden-says-he-wouldd-veto-medicare-for-all-as-coronavirus-focuses-attention-on-health.html
The green new deal claim is more of a stretch but Biden wants to keep fracking and expands the time horizon for zero emissions by 20 years from the GND and eliminate a lot of the jobs programs and other elements to get the cost down. Make of that what you will.
if you open the link that you provide, you'll see that biden is not at all explicit about vetoing m4a. in fact he completely dodges that question and instead responds exactly as you'd expect a candidate not campaigning on m4a in a primary against an opponent who is - by outlining the reasons why he doesn't support it and instead has a different plan.
biden's climate change plan is both very good and far more radical than anything that could conceivably pass the senate. if they get a crippled version through with a quarter of what's in biden's plan it will be the most significant legislation of the 21st century thus far.
Come on man! That's just a load of malarkey! If you want me to sign Medicare 4 All with a big tax increase for the middle class you should've voted for the socialist, WHO I BEAT!
but seriously how much more clear can a politician get?
“Nancy Pelosi gets a version of it through the House of Representatives. It comes to your desk. Do you veto it?” MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell asked Biden during an interview Monday night.
“I would veto anything that delays providing the security and the certainty of health care being available now,” Biden responded. “If they got that through in by some miracle or there’s an epiphany that occurred and some miracle occurred that said, ‘OK, it’s passed,’ then you got to look at the cost.”
Biden added: “I want to know, how did they find $35 trillion? What is that doing? Is it going to significantly raise taxes on the middle class, which it will? What’s going to happen?”
Post by: Kat Kid on September 28, 2020, 07:57:57 AM
This gets it backwards. Biden says he would veto a GND or Medicare 4 All so of course they don’t have 2/3rds majority.
They also aren’t going to suddenly turn Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi in to Mitch McConnel ramming through the Obamacare repeal in regards to these big new programs. Saying this is all Manchin’s fault or whatever and leftists are dumb is just an excuse. If they have 53 or 54 votes they could tell Manchin to eff off. The problem is none of the major figures want to do anything big even if they do have the votes! Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer are not going to whip votes for Medicare 4 All or really much of anything worth a crap.
All that is on offer for now and forever is “we’re not republicans.” It will probably be enough to hold off a very unpopular president and party but they will get crushed in the midterms.
m4a wouldn't get 40 votes. the gnd is a non-binding resolution that the senate republicans brought to a vote because they thought they could trap dems into voting for it (and dems refused to).
you still need 60 votes in the senate, not 50 or 54 and i don't share your optimism that the dems are likely to get 53 or 54. and if they do, manchin isn't the only red state dem that will be leary of voting against his constituents' policy preferences.
the idea that you just need leadership or the president to push senators harder and you can magically get them to vote with you is just so fundamentally wrong. even the pubs, whose leadership you laud, got essentially nothing out of unified control of the federal government. not a single thing they campaigned on or wanted in two years of control except a tax cut that will be reversed if the dems take the senate.
It isn't going to happen because none of the leadership wants it so there is no reason to worry about it, but fine.
As to your point about "not being able to get anything done without 60 votes" The Republicans almost rammed through an insanely unpopular repeal of Obamacare in the face of huge opposition and protests with 52 votes and almost did it if not for John McCain basically deciding to vote no to piss off Trump.
So yes, GND and M4A are completely "unrealistic" because of the Dem leadership, and the average Senator's politics, and Biden. So, no it won't happen.
My question back, is how could the Republicans have been willing to expend that much political capital for their failed Obamacare repeal with no replacement and almost succeed if the Democrats couldn't, if they were similarly ideologically motivated do the same to pass a very popular M4A proposal?
Post by: steve dave on September 28, 2020, 08:06:09 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on September 28, 2020, 08:11:48 AM
Man, the left must really think the American people are slow witted dumb fucks by naming their signature plans Medicare for all and the green new deal.
Have you seen the Platinum Plan?
Post by: kim carnes on September 28, 2020, 12:13:55 PM
MFA is where we will eventually be but man, it's a gigantic undertaking and a billion times more complex than ACA. it's going to take pretty universal acceptance before that is ever going to happen. having a slim advantage in dem votes is certainly not going to get it done, even if almost every dem was on board with doing it and right now very few are. the health insurance industry, the new federal replacement for the health insurance industry, the lobbyists to axe, the investor impact, the list can go on for a long time. it's kind of like guns, we are so far past where we should have drawn the line there is just no good way to go back. we're going to have to at some point, but it's going to need to be very baby steps.
There are things that should be changed but that doesn’t mean we should nationalize our healthcare system.
Post by: sys on September 28, 2020, 11:56:12 PM
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1310804319118200833
Post by: steve dave on September 29, 2020, 08:56:14 AM
https://twitter.com/CookPolitical/status/1310932352965791745
Post by: cfbandyman on September 29, 2020, 09:01:33 AM
there's no way, but lmao if so
https://twitter.com/CookPolitical/status/1310932352965791745
538 has Ohio as a tossup as well. Not Iowa.
They have Ohio, NC, and Maine's 2nd as toss ups.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/
Post by: chum1 on September 29, 2020, 11:23:30 AM
https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/1310974258923950080
Post by: steve dave on September 29, 2020, 01:27:18 PM
https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1311003914557444098
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 04:02:59 PM
amazing that there are people paid to share their opinions on politics that don't get this.
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1310804319118200833
Exactly, very few people are enthusiastic about voting for a 78 year old for president, but we're sure as hell enthusiastic to vote or asses off.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2020, 04:16:11 PM
there's no way, but lmao if so
https://twitter.com/CookPolitical/status/1310932352965791745
538 has Ohio as a tossup as well. Not Iowa.
They have Ohio, NC, and Maine's 2nd as toss ups.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/
Of course Iowa is a toss up, it's weird to think otherwise. Obama won in '08 by 9 percent, in '12 by 6. Michael Dukakis and Al Gore won Iowa. GWB only won his second term by 9000 votes. Three out of the four representatives (The three that have the largest cities) are democrats. The Senate race is a toss up, in which the dem has lead since she won the nomination. Any historical data, or current polling point to a toss up, trump's win was about Clinton, not him. The dem turnout was wayyy down and trump got barely more votes than Romney.
The Iowa electorate is much more Wisconsin and Minnesota, and much less Nebraska and Kansas.
Post by: IPA4Me on September 29, 2020, 04:23:42 PM
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Post by: steve dave on September 30, 2020, 08:21:57 AM
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1310591993697964037
Post by: bucket on September 30, 2020, 08:39:46 AM
If Southern Illinois was a state, Trump would win. I've never seen so many Trump signs and cornfields.
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I-72?! :excited:
Post by: IPA4Me on September 30, 2020, 09:51:05 AM
Olney and surrounding areas that are just north of I64.If Southern Illinois was a state, Trump would win. I've never seen so many Trump signs and cornfields.
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I-72?! :excited:
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Post by: Kat Kid on September 30, 2020, 09:51:43 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 30, 2020, 11:27:20 AM
mrs. dave and I are dropping off our mail in votes today
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1310591993697964037
You and nate need to stop trying to make fetch happen
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2020, 11:38:31 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 30, 2020, 12:31:33 PM
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Post by: cfbandyman on September 30, 2020, 12:43:02 PM
mrs. dave and I are dropping off our mail in votes today
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1310591993697964037
You and nate need to stop trying to make fetch happen
That's a lot of polls to say otherwise
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/nebraska-2/
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 30, 2020, 12:46:19 PM
I will personally be the deciding vote in this election. I hold that power.Thank you for your service
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Post by: steve dave on September 30, 2020, 01:50:52 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on September 30, 2020, 05:05:37 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 30, 2020, 05:20:33 PM
mrs. dave and I are dropping off our mail in votes today
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1310591993697964037
You and nate need to stop trying to make fetch happen
That's a lot of polls to say otherwise
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/nebraska-2/
Pretty sure it's basically impossible both for NE-02 to be a close race and also have a close electoral count. The district too far left relative to other states for that to happen.
Post by: sys on September 30, 2020, 10:04:17 PM
as a comparison, the obama 2008 campaign raised 778 m, total.
https://twitter.com/snowmanomics/status/1311498977846743045
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2020, 10:08:08 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2020, 07:48:29 AM
Ben Sasse gets 1 vote closer to victory today!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201001/fbfc9fd87200c73213b5ddc0f24aad2e.jpg)
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Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2020, 08:14:40 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 01, 2020, 08:15:49 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2020, 08:29:57 AM
I wish I could vote against Sasse this year.
he has a 100% chance of victory for the rest of his life so it doesn't matter. he's peak nebraskan. you can't get more nebraskan than he is.
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2020, 08:32:23 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 01, 2020, 08:40:06 AM
mrs. dave and I are dropping off our mail in votes today
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1310591993697964037
You and nate need to stop trying to make fetch happen
That's a lot of polls to say otherwise
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/nebraska-2/Pretty sure it's basically impossible both for NE-02 to be a close race and also have a close electoral count. The district too far left relative to other states for that to happen.
I wasn't carrying about what electoral vote it was, just that he was winning NE-2
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2020, 08:58:55 AM
Post by: Brock Landers on October 01, 2020, 09:23:31 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on October 01, 2020, 09:28:46 AM
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2020, 11:49:55 AM
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1311706202364088320
Post by: cfbandyman on October 01, 2020, 11:58:27 AM
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-biden-debate-poll/
But it's all pretty minor stuff
The consensus seems to be coalescing around the idea that Biden slightly helped himself with his performance, and trump didn't do anything to appeal to anyone else but his base. It seems his strategy is to keep doubling down, which granted got him the office in 2016, but, like, running as the outsider in 2020 rings hollow. Basically, a minor win for Biden.
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2020, 01:36:05 PM
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Post by: Phil Titola on October 01, 2020, 01:49:11 PM
I don’t think there are many undecideds out thereYou voted, you are done in this thread.
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Post by: DaBigTrain on October 01, 2020, 01:50:35 PM
Post by: Cire on October 01, 2020, 01:56:59 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2020, 02:20:57 PM
It's amazing how many "They both were so bad" people out there. "I'm scared because if it's Biden we won't know who's really running things"Yeah, Biden having a good team of people around him is his best thing. Who would really be making fiscal policy decisions? Hopefully some person super rough ridin' smart about fiscal policy! Not some old dude who watches Fox News all day and rages on twitter.
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Post by: Phil Titola on October 01, 2020, 02:27:18 PM
The people they both surround themselves with makes this vote even more of a no brainier.It's amazing how many "They both were so bad" people out there. "I'm scared because if it's Biden we won't know who's really running things"Yeah, Biden having a good team of people around him is his best thing. Who would really be making fiscal policy decisions? Hopefully some person super rough ridin' smart about fiscal policy! Not some old dude who watches Fox News all day and rages on twitter.
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Post by: Institutional Control on October 01, 2020, 02:40:39 PM
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Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2020, 02:49:02 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on October 01, 2020, 02:50:56 PM
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1311752483124006913?s=21
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If ever a victim of Trump's support of white supremacy, it's the Dilbert guy
Post by: cfbandyman on October 01, 2020, 02:51:19 PM
The people they both surround themselves with makes this vote even more of a no brainier.It's amazing how many "They both were so bad" people out there. "I'm scared because if it's Biden we won't know who's really running things"Yeah, Biden having a good team of people around him is his best thing. Who would really be making fiscal policy decisions? Hopefully some person super rough ridin' smart about fiscal policy! Not some old dude who watches Fox News all day and rages on twitter.
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Yup, all of this
Post by: Institutional Control on October 01, 2020, 03:19:32 PM
Why should I change? He's the one who sucks.
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 03:22:50 PM
Ben Sasse gets 1 vote closer to victory today!
who did you vote for in the congressional race?
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 03:25:37 PM
How can the polls move more if there are no undecideds? Trump losing people like Scott Adams. Lol Adams is such a complete dipshit.
it makes no sense, but there are people that bandwagon vote. if it is obvious to everyone that trump will lose, and the media and people generally treat it as obvious, i'd expect a couple % or so will pile on to vote for the winner.
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 05:14:31 PM
https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1311772821572530180
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2020, 05:37:18 PM
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1311752483124006913?s=21
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https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1311779586431045633
Lol, trolled the libs so hard, suck it
Post by: bucket on October 01, 2020, 05:44:56 PM
"I'm scared because if it's Biden we won't know who's really running things"
:lol:
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 07:55:22 PM
https://twitter.com/joshscacco/status/1311829110063280128
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2020, 08:43:38 PM
I'm curious to see if the debate widens the gap.
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1311706202364088320
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1311833774414594049
Post by: Trim on October 01, 2020, 09:38:20 PM
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 09:52:59 PM
My "biden won't win" stock is plummeting. :dunno:
sell it and recoup your losses by betting the other way.
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2020, 09:57:39 PM
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Post by: Trim on October 01, 2020, 10:06:31 PM
My "biden won't win" stock is plummeting. :dunno:
sell it and recoup your losses by betting the other way.
I still think he'll win somehow.
Post by: sys on October 02, 2020, 04:43:17 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 02, 2020, 04:51:28 PM
This is me betting against the cats every weekMy "biden won't win" stock is plummeting. :dunno:
sell it and recoup your losses by betting the other way.
I still think he'll win somehow.
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2020, 05:13:31 PM
apparently biden travelled to michigan and held a campaign event today. i think that is really dumb.
Probably could have waited a couple of days but he did get tested last night.
Post by: michigancat on October 02, 2020, 05:15:05 PM
If the president's situation has taught us anything it's that daily testing is foolproofapparently biden travelled to michigan and held a campaign event today. i think that is really dumb.
Probably could have waited a couple of days but he did get tested last night.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2020, 05:21:02 PM
If the president's situation has taught us anything it's that daily testing is foolproofapparently biden travelled to michigan and held a campaign event today. i think that is really dumb.
Probably could have waited a couple of days but he did get tested last night.
You can absolutely reasonably question if he was getting tested daily. AFAIK that was never independently verified, and was not even on a white house press release. I only ever saw or heard that mentioned when he said something off the cuff.
Post by: sys on October 02, 2020, 05:22:00 PM
i'm sure they followed tight covid protocols, so i'm saying he shouldn't have gone from a how stuff looks perspective, not a public health perspective.
Post by: sys on October 02, 2020, 05:24:14 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2020, 05:24:53 PM
the potential exposure was tuesday night, about 70 hours ago. it's unlikely he'd test positive already even if he was infected.
i'm sure they followed tight covid protocols, so i'm saying he shouldn't have gone from a how stuff looks perspective, not a public health perspective.
I agree with that sys. He's been very good about following protocols with his events to this point, of course that will continue, but he definitely could have gone back to the basement for the weekend. I'm sure he will now.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on October 02, 2020, 05:27:11 PM
Bad news fellas.the potential exposure was tuesday night, about 70 hours ago. it's unlikely he'd test positive already even if he was infected.
i'm sure they followed tight covid protocols, so i'm saying he shouldn't have gone from a how stuff looks perspective, not a public health perspective.
I agree with that sys. He's been very good about following protocols with his events to this point, of course that will continue, but he definitely could have gone back to the basement for the weekend. I'm sure he will now.
https://twitter.com/andrewkirell/status/1312121190597586944?s=21
Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2020, 05:35:09 PM
Bad news fellas.the potential exposure was tuesday night, about 70 hours ago. it's unlikely he'd test positive already even if he was infected.
i'm sure they followed tight covid protocols, so i'm saying he shouldn't have gone from a how stuff looks perspective, not a public health perspective.
I agree with that sys. He's been very good about following protocols with his events to this point, of course that will continue, but he definitely could have gone back to the basement for the weekend. I'm sure he will now.
https://twitter.com/andrewkirell/status/1312121190597586944?s=21
Not surprising. I said I don't think he's been tested daily. I bet Skylar Thompson has had more COVID tests.
Post by: sys on October 03, 2020, 08:03:00 PM
POLITICO: Biden flip-flops on door-knocking with just 33 days left.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/01/biden-flip-flops-on-door-knocking-with-33-days-left-424642
really dumb. kinda pisses me off, actually.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2020, 11:55:34 PM
POLITICO: Biden flip-flops on door-knocking with just 33 days left.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/01/biden-flip-flops-on-door-knocking-with-33-days-left-424642
really dumb. kinda pisses me off, actually.
The fantastic things about doors is that you only have to open then when you want to.
Post by: chum1 on October 04, 2020, 08:19:07 AM
https://twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/status/1312739616731074560
Post by: sys on October 04, 2020, 06:44:02 PM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1312897794395398144
Post by: sys on October 04, 2020, 09:28:31 PM
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsCo/status/1312931178995879939
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2020, 01:37:06 AM
praying we don't lose any presidential candidates until after election day.
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsCo/status/1312931178995879939
Predictable
Post by: Trim on October 05, 2020, 10:33:47 PM
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/05/trump-no-mask-white-house-camera-crew-balcony-collins-lklv-ebof-vpx.cnn
Post by: IPA4Me on October 06, 2020, 07:29:54 AM
Fiance opened the door to a MAGA supporter. "Get off my porch before I shoot you." Door promptly closed. :shakesfist:POLITICO: Biden flip-flops on door-knocking with just 33 days left.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/01/biden-flip-flops-on-door-knocking-with-33-days-left-424642 (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/01/biden-flip-flops-on-door-knocking-with-33-days-left-424642)
really dumb. kinda pisses me off, actually.
The fantastic things about doors is that you only have to open then when you want to.
Post by: IPA4Me on October 06, 2020, 07:30:19 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 06, 2020, 09:19:08 AM
2) That NM is not even really considered competitive
But, I guess, that guy can do what he wants. I think FWIW it's going to be obnoxiously close this election, and laughable to think it'll be like 2016
I also don't put much stock in Biden winning NC or Florida or Ohio or Zona, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets one of those.
Where I was getting those polls
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/
Post by: steve dave on October 06, 2020, 09:35:02 AM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 06, 2020, 09:40:17 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 06, 2020, 09:51:53 AM
Post by: chum1 on October 06, 2020, 09:56:55 AM
Biden +3.6 in 538 poll average, +2.3 in RCP, and hasn't trailed in either since April.
Arizona
Biden +4.4 in 538 poll average, +3.4 in RCP, and hasn't trailed in either since March.
North Carolina
Biden +2.0 in 538 poll average, +1.2 in RCP, trailed some in RCP in May and August.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 06, 2020, 09:58:45 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 06, 2020, 10:12:38 AM
Yeah, he's favored in all of them, but the margins are small enough that he probably ends up with 2 or 3.
That, and I see them reverting back to "norms" I guess. If it still looks like that in 3 weeks, then yeah, would agree
Post by: Phil Titola on October 06, 2020, 10:21:29 AM
Florida
Biden +3.6 in 538 poll average, +2.3 in RCP, and hasn't trailed in either since April.
Arizona
Biden +4.4 in 538 poll average, +3.4 in RCP, and hasn't trailed in either since March.
North Carolina
Biden +2.0 in 538 poll average, +1.2 in RCP, trailed some in RCP in May and August.
How many people answer these polls that will be voting Trump but then when it comes down to it, their opinion of him will just keep them away totally kind of like happened to Hilldog in 16?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 06, 2020, 10:25:45 AM
Florida
Biden +3.6 in 538 poll average, +2.3 in RCP, and hasn't trailed in either since April.
Arizona
Biden +4.4 in 538 poll average, +3.4 in RCP, and hasn't trailed in either since March.
North Carolina
Biden +2.0 in 538 poll average, +1.2 in RCP, trailed some in RCP in May and August.
How many people answer these polls that will be voting Trump but then when it comes down to it, their opinion of him will just keep them away totally kind of like happened to Hilldog in 16?
Not many. I can't imagine being willing to voice to someone that you are going to vote for Trump but be unwilling to do so anonymously.
Post by: Phil Titola on October 06, 2020, 10:36:45 AM
Florida
Biden +3.6 in 538 poll average, +2.3 in RCP, and hasn't trailed in either since April.
Arizona
Biden +4.4 in 538 poll average, +3.4 in RCP, and hasn't trailed in either since March.
North Carolina
Biden +2.0 in 538 poll average, +1.2 in RCP, trailed some in RCP in May and August.
How many people answer these polls that will be voting Trump but then when it comes down to it, their opinion of him will just keep them away totally kind of like happened to Hilldog in 16?
Not many. I can't imagine being willing to voice to someone that you are going to vote for Trump but be unwilling to do so anonymously.
I can definitely see it. It for sure happened in 16.
Post by: chum1 on October 06, 2020, 10:48:25 AM
https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1313494764759678978
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 06, 2020, 11:17:13 AM
We'll get a solid 4 to 5 hours a day out of Joe for the 6 months he'll be in office (give or take 1 or 2 months).
The few press conferences will be a two-fold treat. The first being the absolutely leading softball "questions" he'll be asked, and the 2nd will be watching/listening to Joe read canned responses off a monitor on the podium.
The lack of gotcha's, and anally dissecting every decision, thought and movement will be absolutely palpable as well. Likely a welcome multi-month vacation for the "media" and notably the end of racism on the entire planet as well.
A small respite may be had if Pubs hold the Senate and continue their ongoing and necessary investigation into the Biden's and the Chinese (and Russians/Ukrainians)
Post by: LickNeckey on October 06, 2020, 11:34:53 AM
I'm just happy that we'll have a POTUS like Joe "another lid" Biden.
We'll get a solid 4 to 5 hours a day out of Joe for the 6 months he'll be in office (give or take 1 or 2 months).
The few press conferences will be a two-fold treat. The first being the absolutely leading softball "questions" he'll be asked, and the 2nd will be watching/listening to Joe read canned responses off a monitor on the podium.
The lack of gotcha's, and anally dissecting every decision, thought and movement will be absolutely palpable as well. Likely a welcome multi-month vacation for the "media" and notably the end of racism on the entire planet as well.
A small respite may be had if Pubs hold the Senate and continue their ongoing and necessary investigation into the Biden's and the Chinese (and Russians/Ukrainians)
:love: :love: :love: :love:
they investigated Benghazi for four years
Post by: IPA4Me on October 06, 2020, 01:07:28 PM
[tweet]1313290075141279748[/tweet]https://twitter.com/KMCRadio/status/1313080139606102016
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 06, 2020, 03:00:03 PM
Nothing is more fascinating (I mean way beyond defending Trump). Then to watch LiBBots circle the wagons to defend a woman who destroyed a country. Then sent in the CIA to recruit mercenaries and procure arms from that destroyed country. To use to overthrow the government of yet another country. LOLI'm just happy that we'll have a POTUS like Joe "another lid" Biden.
We'll get a solid 4 to 5 hours a day out of Joe for the 6 months he'll be in office (give or take 1 or 2 months).
The few press conferences will be a two-fold treat. The first being the absolutely leading softball "questions" he'll be asked, and the 2nd will be watching/listening to Joe read canned responses off a monitor on the podium.
The lack of gotcha's, and anally dissecting every decision, thought and movement will be absolutely palpable as well. Likely a welcome multi-month vacation for the "media" and notably the end of racism on the entire planet as well.
A small respite may be had if Pubs hold the Senate and continue their ongoing and necessary investigation into the Biden's and the Chinese (and Russians/Ukrainians)
:love: :love: :love: :love:
they investigated Benghazi for four years
But nice deflection Lick.
ChiCom Joe is going to have the easiest 6 month presidency ever.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 06, 2020, 03:00:59 PM
But BernieBro’s hate OrangeMan more.
Post by: IPA4Me on October 06, 2020, 03:11:34 PM
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Post by: michigancat on October 06, 2020, 03:32:49 PM
Sitting in the middle laughing. What a crap show.
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this highlights why it's so dumb, it doesn't fire you up at all
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 06, 2020, 03:38:27 PM
https://twitter.com/robsmithonline/status/1313198125402722305?s=21
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 06, 2020, 03:44:18 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on October 06, 2020, 03:58:14 PM
I googled that quote and it only comes up at www.westernjournal.com and www.defconnews.com
lib media refusing to report this definitely real quote, shocking!
Post by: steve dave on October 06, 2020, 04:20:44 PM
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Post by: Phil Titola on October 06, 2020, 04:45:07 PM
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I am, ironically, more optimistic about the prospects of dealing with the problems we talked about today, as well as so many other problems we have right now, than I have ever been in my whole career. And you say, ‘Why in the hell would you say that, Biden? You just talked about all these difficulties.’ Well, I’ll tell you why. Because the American public, the blinders have been taken off. They’ve all of a sudden seen a hell of a lot clearer. They are saying: ‘Jeez, the reason I was able to stay sequestered in my home is because some Black woman was able to stack the grocery shelf, or I got a young Hispanic out there, or these dreamers out there, 60,000 of them, acting as first responders and nurses and docs.’
Post by: sys on October 06, 2020, 04:47:09 PM
I think FWIW it's going to be obnoxiously close this election, and laughable to think it'll be like 2016
it's not going to be close. it's getting close to a point where i need to think about taking off my republican hedges because biden's a risk to blow right past them.
Post by: IPA4Me on October 06, 2020, 04:58:25 PM
I laugh and go about my business. I'm not getting worked up about things beyond my control.Sitting in the middle laughing. What a crap show.
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this highlights why it's so dumb, it doesn't fire you up at all
Post by: sys on October 06, 2020, 05:12:15 PM
this highlights why it's so dumb, it doesn't fire you up at all
ipa is voting biden no matter what. that messaging is for voters like wacky.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 06, 2020, 05:29:25 PM
We Source Check Twitter (SteveDave, DaBigPsycho, BidenBot.7)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 06, 2020, 05:34:21 PM
Joe "Lid" Biden.
Post by: bucket on October 06, 2020, 05:46:36 PM
I think FWIW it's going to be obnoxiously close this election, and laughable to think it'll be like 2016
it's not going to be close. it's getting close to a point where i need to think about taking off my republican hedges because biden's a risk to blow right past them.
Is it possible that it could be close for a couple days while they process the mail-in ballots.
Post by: steve dave on October 06, 2020, 05:57:11 PM
Only in the “not a mathematically impossibility” sense maybe?I think FWIW it's going to be obnoxiously close this election, and laughable to think it'll be like 2016
it's not going to be close. it's getting close to a point where i need to think about taking off my republican hedges because biden's a risk to blow right past them.
Is it possible that it could be close for a couple days while they process the mail-in ballots.
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Post by: sys on October 06, 2020, 06:08:24 PM
Is it possible that it could be close for a couple days while they process the mail-in ballots.
if it's close enough that we can't figure out the winner on 11/3 from states that count quickly, then it will end up still being "close" when they finish counting.
like, maybe not we have no idea who is going to win on close, but not a blowout.
it doesn't look on track for that to happen currently, and the race has been stable to moving in biden's favor basically forever, but there are still four weeks for something to change.
Post by: kim carnes on October 06, 2020, 06:46:27 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on October 06, 2020, 06:55:37 PM
Heh. Nope. I'm not an establishment voter. I loathe the candidates both parties are presenting.this highlights why it's so dumb, it doesn't fire you up at all
ipa is voting biden no matter what. that messaging is for voters like wacky.
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Post by: sys on October 06, 2020, 06:57:47 PM
Heh. Nope. I'm not an establishment voter. I loathe the candidates both parties are presenting.
i didn't say you liked him.
Post by: IPA4Me on October 06, 2020, 07:25:38 PM
I will vote regardless of the irrelevance of it. Kentucky will not go Biden. My votes will matter down ticket in county and state voting.
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Post by: sys on October 06, 2020, 08:42:46 PM
Post by: sys on October 07, 2020, 06:56:17 AM
https://twitter.com/WinWithJMC/status/1313800630088146946
Post by: IPA4Me on October 07, 2020, 07:07:42 AM
well, you've surprised me, i would not have guessed that in quite a few tries.My disdain for Trump long before 2016 election keeps me from voting for him. I do not support the Biden platform.
Post by: michigancat on October 07, 2020, 07:19:31 AM
well, you've surprised me, i would not have guessed that in quite a few tries.To be fair, he said he was sitting in the middle
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 07, 2020, 07:30:01 AM
Joe Biden: The Darling of K-Street
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-influence/2019/11/07/biden-comes-to-k-street-782149
https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/490291-bidens-rise-in-primary-calms-nerves-on-k-street
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/joe-bidens-merry-band-of-lobbyists
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/01/us/politics/biden-lobbyist-ties.html
America First is nowhere to found in the K-Street Agenda. They need OrangeMan gone because there's trillions of dollars at stake, and Joe Biden is the man to deliver what K-Street wants.
Joe Biden: The Swamp
Post by: IPA4Me on October 07, 2020, 07:35:28 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on October 07, 2020, 07:39:28 AM
https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=41449.msg2010990#msg2010990
Post by: bucket on October 07, 2020, 08:44:26 AM
Ken Bone is back!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 07, 2020, 08:47:20 AM
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Post by: _33 on October 07, 2020, 09:20:09 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on October 07, 2020, 09:21:28 AM
If you vote by mail can you still take an "I Voted" sticker selfie? Do they mail the sticker as well? What is even the point of voting if you can't announce it on social media?
Do you know how mad the poll workers get when I say I don't want the sticker?
Post by: Brock Landers on October 07, 2020, 09:23:23 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 07, 2020, 09:33:06 AM
Have any other Kansans received their mail-in ballots? I'm still waiting to get mine.
Still waiting, but since you can't vote my mail more than 20 days from the election by law, that is the real issue there. I think they all go out next week (if you already requested)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 07, 2020, 10:58:12 AM
Pretty certain I requested a mail-in ballot for both the primary and general elections back before the primary. They just printed a list of the candidates that will be on the ballot in our paper of record so I assume the ballots have been finalized and will come out soon.Have any other Kansans received their mail-in ballots? I'm still waiting to get mine.
Still waiting, but since you can't vote my mail more than 20 days from the election by law, that is the real issue there. I think they all go out next week (if you already requested)
Post by: cfbandyman on October 07, 2020, 11:22:33 AM
Pretty certain I requested a mail-in ballot for both the primary and general elections back before the primary. They just printed a list of the candidates that will be on the ballot in our paper of record so I assume the ballots have been finalized and will come out soon.Have any other Kansans received their mail-in ballots? I'm still waiting to get mine.
Still waiting, but since you can't vote my mail more than 20 days from the election by law, that is the real issue there. I think they all go out next week (if you already requested)
Sure, I did that too, I guess what I mean to say is that KS doesn't allow you to vote via mail in more than 20 days prior to election day, so therefore they wouldn't mail those out until 20 days or less, so basically no one gets one until basically the 14th of October.
You can still request a mail-in ballot til like Oct 27th (?), and I would assume you'd get one early enough by then to have it post marked by the 3rd, that's just as an aside
Post by: steve dave on October 07, 2020, 12:08:13 PM
IIRC sd's pic of his Ben Sasse ballot was photobombed by an "I Voted" sticker. Assumed it was sent along with the ballot.
hell yeah it was
Post by: steve dave on October 07, 2020, 12:10:14 PM
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Post by: IPA4Me on October 07, 2020, 01:36:38 PM
Post by: _33 on October 07, 2020, 04:23:32 PM
No sticker in mine. How will I ever share on social media?
You're screwed bud. I'd ask for my vote back.
Post by: wetwillie on October 07, 2020, 07:45:35 PM
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Post by: nicname on October 07, 2020, 08:52:18 PM
I’m trying to think of a funny Lute Olson joke about the VP debate but a cat’s got my tongue
Post by: Trim on October 07, 2020, 09:14:16 PM
I’m trying to think of a funny Lute Olson joke about the VP debate but a cat’s got my tongue
"god's facial recognition software needs some work."
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Post by: nicname on October 07, 2020, 09:23:56 PM
https://twitter.com/VincentMarcus/status/1314028318925090818?s=20
Post by: nicname on October 07, 2020, 09:24:37 PM
I’m trying to think of a funny Lute Olson joke about the VP debate but a cat’s got my tongue
"god's facial recognition software needs some work."
:lol:
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 07, 2020, 10:07:56 PM
IIRC sd's pic of his Ben Sasse ballot was photobombed by an "I Voted" sticker. Assumed it was sent along with the ballot.
Aggressively large, damn thing looks like a window sticker.
Post by: steve dave on October 07, 2020, 10:15:34 PM
Just like my vote!IIRC sd's pic of his Ben Sasse ballot was photobombed by an "I Voted" sticker. Assumed it was sent along with the ballot.
Aggressively large, damn thing looks like a window sticker.
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Post by: nicname on October 07, 2020, 10:17:45 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 07, 2020, 10:24:00 PM
Post by: nicname on October 07, 2020, 10:39:07 PM
Been thinking about switching party to pub. I bet theirs, while still annoying, are more entertaining.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 07, 2020, 10:43:59 PM
I'm sure you know that already.
Post by: bucket on October 07, 2020, 10:45:00 PM
Wasn’t about mushing. I’ve been getting tons of these things, btw. Almost as much as the scam social security calls. Plus, I think it’s good for them to get a record of registered dems that aren’t fans of hers.
Been thinking about switching party to pub. I bet theirs, while still annoying, are more entertaining.
I'm surprised it was a real person. I just assumed it was a bot.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 07, 2020, 10:53:35 PM
Wasn’t about mushing. I’ve been getting tons of these things, btw. Almost as much as the scam social security calls. Plus, I think it’s good for them to get a record of registered dems that aren’t fans of hers.
Been thinking about switching party to pub. I bet theirs, while still annoying, are more entertaining.
I'm surprised it was a real person. I just assumed it was a bot.
When you get those texts, it's almost always a volunteer using their own phone with a Google voice number. It's obviously bad form for a politician or political party to spam, so they use this method.
In the interest of being a good human being, if you get these texts, either ignore them, block them, or ask them to remove you from their list. I can be 100% certain that the volunteer on the other end doesn't care who you are or aren't a fan of and it won't go beyond that person texting or calling you. Your chances of making a stranger cry is decent. Your chances of your opinion on Mike Pence or Kamala Harris getting to a person of influence in the party is literally none.
Write an old persons letter or some crap and leave regular people alone.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 07, 2020, 11:01:16 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 07, 2020, 11:12:53 PM
I just ignore them myself, but if you cry because someone responds negatively to your unsolicited texts, then maybe they should just leave regular people alone
Man, the point isn't that someone will cry, the point is that's a much more likely result than moving the needle on telling this person you don't like X, so just keep it moving.
I get a crap ton of these because in the last four elections I've been registered to three different parties, but I'm not talking to these dirty pubs the way I talk to dakkk.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 07, 2020, 11:13:15 PM
i guess i should add that i don't think nicname was mean. just all of us, myself included, can do to remember that those are real people on the other end, and almost all of them nicer people than any of us are.
Agree
Post by: michigancat on October 07, 2020, 11:18:14 PM
Post by: _33 on October 07, 2020, 11:47:38 PM
Post by: michigancat on October 07, 2020, 11:49:42 PM
Why would a volunteer text someone to ask them if they are excited to watch the VP debate? What's the point?To encourage them to watch/gather data
Post by: Trim on October 07, 2020, 11:51:13 PM
Why would a volunteer text someone to ask them if they are excited to watch the VP debate? What's the point?
To start a conversation that would eventually culminate with asking for a donation?
Post by: _33 on October 07, 2020, 11:56:13 PM
Why would a volunteer text someone to ask them if they are excited to watch the VP debate? What's the point?
To start a conversation that would eventually culminate with asking for a donation?
Yeah
Post by: sys on October 08, 2020, 12:23:43 AM
To start a conversation that would eventually culminate with asking for a donation?
nah. i mean if you got a gotv/engagement text and told your texter that you were interested in volunteering with the campaign, it would absolutely make that person's night, but the campaign is not looking for that.
texts to potential donors/volunteers are separate from texts to ordinary voters and the purpose of the texts to voters isn't to move them into the other category.
unless you sign up to get them, donate or volunteer to the campaign texting you or to some other campaign or group that shared or sold their list to the campaign texting you, you aren't going to get a donor or volunteer text.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 08, 2020, 12:48:25 AM
Why would a volunteer text someone to ask them if they are excited to watch the VP debate? What's the point?
To start a conversation that would eventually culminate with asking for a donation?
Yeah
Nope
Post by: sys on October 08, 2020, 12:50:02 AM
https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1314048039372369921
https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1314048311993696258
Post by: MakeItRain on October 08, 2020, 01:05:36 AM
I will say, if you can find it, the last question and answer was as one sided of a Q & A in a debate I've ever seen, and the question wasn't even intended to do that.
The moderator asked a question from a kid about why the country was so divided and what can be done to stop it. Pence, gave a great answer, Harris droned on about how good on a man Biden is and she punctuated it by telling this kid to settle the division by going to vote and she said it twice. Cringe.
Post by: Cire on October 08, 2020, 05:45:35 AM
Good for Pete here
https://twitter.com/titusnation/status/1314099977975558144?s=21
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 08, 2020, 07:33:19 AM
Since putty brained Biden Voters just discovered this phenomenon 3 years ago and are still having a total meltdown about it (even though much of it was enabled by the Clinton campaign and fueled by easily propagandized BidenVoters).
I’m very (not) surprised by the total lack of melting down caused by: Facebook shutting down 180 Chinese created groups who were wholly supportive of Democrats, particularly Biden. Twitter culling 10k Chinese Bot accounts spreading virus and US election (exclusively pro Biden) disinformation. The news that Chinese hacking farms have tried to or have hacked US politicians and election mechanisms. Of which the politicians were heavily weighted towards Republicans.
I’m sure ChiCom Joe the K Street stooge is going to nip this in the bud once nap time is over.
Post by: cfbandyman on October 08, 2020, 07:37:10 AM
Pete is a militarized talking point machine. He gives incredibly good interviews in my experience.
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Yes, he's been doing this for a while too. He's also basically the face of the democrats on fox, and mushes them often
Post by: chum1 on October 08, 2020, 07:40:51 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on October 08, 2020, 07:44:17 AM
I'm super curious about whether Trump will be well enough to do a debate or town hall next week.
he already announced he is not doing it. says he will do a rally.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 08, 2020, 07:49:25 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2020, 07:50:45 AM
Pete is a militarized talking point machine. He gives incredibly good interviews in my experience.
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Yes, he's been doing this for a while too. He's also basically the face of the democrats on fox, and mushes them often
he comes on cnbc a lot too. always very good. you can't catch him with a question he can't reply with a perfectly formed talking point and 9 powerpoint slides for.
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2020, 07:51:56 AM
I'm super curious about whether Trump will be well enough to do a debate or town hall next week.
he already announced he is not doing it. says he will do a rally.
he did enough measurable damage to his numbers with the first one a rally is irl the smart move.
Post by: chum1 on October 08, 2020, 07:54:16 AM
I'm super curious about whether Trump will be well enough to do a debate or town hall next week.
he already announced he is not doing it. says he will do a rally.
I'm curious about if he will physically be able to do either. Also, he reverses himself all the time. We have no idea what he'll do. If able!
Post by: Kat Kid on October 08, 2020, 07:58:04 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2020, 08:02:02 AM
Does Biden do the townhall solo then?
he should
Post by: Kat Kid on October 08, 2020, 08:08:09 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on October 08, 2020, 08:55:12 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 08, 2020, 09:05:01 AM
Does Biden do the townhall solo then?
he should
Yes, and trump is def smart to not do it, town hall he would absolutely be mushed, and he made himself look like a goddamn fool. I do think it's funny too that the narrative is dems would cancel debates but instead he does it. Oh well
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 08, 2020, 09:08:49 AM
Hopefully for Joe "lids" Biden, if he does do a solo townhall,the teleprompter is working well, and they have his nap time and Ensure sessions are timed well throughout the day.
Post by: Phil Titola on October 08, 2020, 10:43:03 AM
Never watched it though so maybe not?
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2020, 10:54:11 AM
Like the whole world said trump got his ass kicked.His poll numbers overall and in the battleground states immediately tanked which is what I was basing my assumption off of. I also didn’t watch though. Maybe people just decided they liked Biden more for unrelated reasons.
Never watched it though so maybe not?
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 08, 2020, 10:55:34 AM
Like the whole world said trump got his ass kicked.
Never watched it though so maybe not?
yeah, he took an ass kicking. They both looked like huge losers though
Post by: Institutional Control on October 08, 2020, 10:56:36 AM
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Post by: chum1 on October 08, 2020, 11:21:12 AM
https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1314212949255319556
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 08, 2020, 11:53:02 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on October 08, 2020, 12:09:55 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on October 08, 2020, 12:18:53 PM
newfound concern for foreign interference?
new excuses for cancelling debates?
new insults for the candidates? (guessing he stays with the base approved telepromtper/sleepy/chicom)
increased race baiting?
:ohno:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 08, 2020, 12:32:46 PM
really excited to see what the Daxbot churns out in the coming weeks
newfound concern for foreign interference?
new excuses for cancelling debates?
new insults for the candidates? (guessing he stays with the base approved telepromtper/sleepy/chicom)
increased race baiting?
:ohno:
Only BidenVoters can bring up foreign interference in an election and then use it to overturn the outcome of the election for next 4 years (Lick Necky)
I'm kind of dumb and didn't understand that Dax affirmed yet again that foreign interference in U.S. politics has occurred for decades, even centuries and that it is a component of modern politics as we know it today (LickNeckey)
Trump has offered to debate in person on 10/22 and everyone knows that a virtual debate with ChiCom Joe's teleprompter and minders is not a real debate.
Post by: Phil Titola on October 08, 2020, 12:59:08 PM
Post by: catastrophe on October 08, 2020, 01:05:54 PM
I can't believe Fox news keeps putting Pete on to destroy them. If someone of his caliber is going on their network, he's locked and loadedI don’t think Fox is uniformly pro Trump. They really could be putting Pete on to low key kick their own asses.
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Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2020, 02:51:00 PM
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1314279438398431232
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Post by: wetwillie on October 08, 2020, 07:38:21 PM
There is no role that Pete couldn't execute with precision. Chief "if" staff would be a waste, though.
Presidential Nominee appears to be one
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 08, 2020, 07:47:25 PM
Post by: sys on October 08, 2020, 07:55:31 PM
He actually did very well as a nominee considering he entered as a mayor that nobody had heard of.
he failed to be nominated.
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Post by: DaBigTrain on October 08, 2020, 09:55:56 PM
https://twitter.com/jimmyjazz1968/status/1314373836129746946Yeah but a rally is pure ass kissing, which he so desperately craves.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 08, 2020, 10:48:27 PM
I'm sure George "Brazile" Stephanopoulos is going to let the audience lob in some real
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 08, 2020, 10:52:12 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 08, 2020, 10:58:49 PM
Yeah hopefully it’s some actual policy talk. Instead of dear leader just ranting about whatever. Sorry Dax, probably won’t be as entertaining for you.
Just hoping they've got your guy timed right on the day so he'll be fully alert for a couple of hours Da Big Psycho.
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 08, 2020, 11:28:25 PM
Well he’s not on some experimental steroid boosting mood because he’s sick from COVID. But, yeah hopefully he’s had a good nights rest and is ready to go.Yeah hopefully it’s some actual policy talk. Instead of dear leader just ranting about whatever. Sorry Dax, probably won’t be as entertaining for you.
Just hoping they've got your guy timed right on the day so he'll be fully alert for a couple of hours Da Big Psycho.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 08, 2020, 11:30:40 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 08, 2020, 11:36:54 PM
Tap out not accepted.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 08, 2020, 11:40:26 PM
Typical Da Big Psyho
I'm sure the earpiece will give Joe plenty of good talking points DBP
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 09, 2020, 12:00:48 AM
:lol:
Post by: cfbandyman on October 09, 2020, 10:06:39 AM
This is a very interesting watch (538 uses this to track early voting #s)
7.9 mil already voted. For reference, last night when I checked it, it was at 6.6 mil.
Turnout/early voting is going to be insane (already knew duh) but the proof is there
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 09, 2020, 10:15:05 AM
He actually did very well as a nominee considering he entered as a mayor that nobody had heard of.
he failed to be nominated.
No, but he turned himself into someone who is more of a household name. He might even get a cabinet position. It would be foolish to not consider that a success.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 09, 2020, 10:52:34 AM
I can't believe Fox news keeps putting Pete on to destroy them. If someone of his caliber is going on their network, he's locked and loadedI don’t think Fox is uniformly pro Trump. They really could be putting Pete on to low key kick their own asses.
Fox self owns pretty often.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2020, 11:03:45 AM
He actually did very well as a nominee considering he entered as a mayor that nobody had heard of.
he failed to be nominated.
No, but he turned himself into someone who is more of a household name. He might even get a cabinet position. It would be foolish to not consider that a success.
And he's only 38!
Post by: Institutional Control on October 09, 2020, 11:37:48 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on October 09, 2020, 11:42:13 AM
Pubs I know are pretty confident the polls are further off this year than in 2016.
Pubs better hope so
Post by: wetwillie on October 09, 2020, 11:51:39 AM
He actually did very well as a nominee considering he entered as a mayor that nobody had heard of.
he failed to be nominated.
No, but he turned himself into someone who is more of a household name. He might even get a cabinet position. It would be foolish to not consider that a success.
And he's only 38!
Damn he was barely old enough to run
Post by: cfbandyman on October 09, 2020, 12:06:15 PM
Pubs I know are pretty confident the polls are further off this year than in 2016.
Pubs better hope so
Really better hope so, it'd take a polling error twice as big as last time. He's getting his teeth kicked in the "have to win" states for him. He's got time to "fix" it, but that time is fast running out, and the polls have been so consistent for so long, it's hard to see it changing
Post by: sys on October 09, 2020, 04:31:23 PM
He actually did very well as a nominee considering he entered as a mayor that nobody had heard of.
he failed to be nominated.
No, but he turned himself into someone who is more of a household name. He might even get a cabinet position. It would be foolish to not consider that a success.
it was a successful candidacy. just pointing out the semantics.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 10, 2020, 08:09:08 AM
Even while dodging (as usual) Joe Biden reveals the truth.
We're not getting our way all the time, therefore we must change the rules (BidenVoter Nation)
Post by: chum1 on October 10, 2020, 09:20:27 AM
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1314928887806267392
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 10, 2020, 09:54:14 AM
Congrats to future President Harris.
Post by: michigancat on October 10, 2020, 10:56:14 AM
Amazing analysis. Also super intersting given Trump's poll declines with seniors.
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1314928887806267392
what a mumped up system
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Post by: wetwillie on October 11, 2020, 12:44:38 PM
What’s k Street
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Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 12:45:59 PM
agree with Joe on this oneI don't know how Joe will be able to evade the question all the way through election day. Jake Tapper (CNN) was roasting the Biden surrogate on his show this morning for being evasive about the question. The chyron (sp?) operator was even getting in on it.
Post by: steve dave on October 11, 2020, 12:47:47 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2020, 12:50:41 PM
Post by: sys on October 11, 2020, 01:22:26 PM
I don't know how Joe will be able to evade the question all the way through election day. Jake Tapper (CNN) was roasting the Biden surrogate on his show this morning for being evasive about the question.
like most of the country i sat through that interview on the edge of my seat wondering if you biden would change his answer from "not gonna tell you" to "it depends" so i can finally figure out who i'm gonna vote for.
Post by: chum1 on October 11, 2020, 01:30:59 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 01:41:49 PM
I don't know how Joe will be able to evade the question all the way through election day. Jake Tapper (CNN) was roasting the Biden surrogate on his show this morning for being evasive about the question.
like most of the country i sat through that interview on the edge of my seat wondering if you biden would change his answer from "not gonna tell you" to "it depends" so i can finally figure out who i'm gonna vote for.
I'm willing to admit I probably care about the answer to that question far more than most. I'm just a bit irked, because it is literally the only question that has come up during the debates that I did not know Biden's position on, and it happens to be a question whose answer I care very deeply about. For me, it could make the difference between voting for Biden, voting third party, or simply not voting for President.
Post by: michigancat on October 11, 2020, 01:44:17 PM
I don't know how Joe will be able to evade the question all the way through election day. Jake Tapper (CNN) was roasting the Biden surrogate on his show this morning for being evasive about the question.
like most of the country i sat through that interview on the edge of my seat wondering if you biden would change his answer from "not gonna tell you" to "it depends" so i can finally figure out who i'm gonna vote for.
I'm willing to admit I probably care about the answer to that question far more than most. I'm just a bit irked, because it is literally the only question that has come up during the debates that I did not know Biden's position on, and it happens to be a question whose answer I care very deeply about. For me, it could make the difference between voting for Biden, voting third party, or simply not voting for President.
Glad you found your excuse
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 01:47:22 PM
I don't know how Joe will be able to evade the question all the way through election day. Jake Tapper (CNN) was roasting the Biden surrogate on his show this morning for being evasive about the question.
like most of the country i sat through that interview on the edge of my seat wondering if you biden would change his answer from "not gonna tell you" to "it depends" so i can finally figure out who i'm gonna vote for.
I'm willing to admit I probably care about the answer to that question far more than most. I'm just a bit irked, because it is literally the only question that has come up during the debates that I did not know Biden's position on, and it happens to be a question whose answer I care very deeply about. For me, it could make the difference between voting for Biden, voting third party, or simply not voting for President.
Glad you found your excuse
I guess you're entitled to your opinion on my motivations for how and why I choose to use my vote, but on the other hand, go eff yourself.
Post by: sys on October 11, 2020, 02:11:23 PM
For me, it could make the difference between voting for Biden, voting third party, or simply not voting for President.
spracne, the senate isn't going to pack the court because: (see below). biden doesn't want to articulate that for some reason, probably mostly because he thinks it can help apply some pressure on republican senators to not move the confirmation process along until after the election. hth.
https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1315366184364257280
Post by: Phil Titola on October 11, 2020, 02:12:25 PM
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Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 02:34:11 PM
Is this an abortion thing? Jfc people.
No. I support Roe, Casey, Whole Women's Health, etc. I don't believe the Court would overturn all of that even with ACB confirmed. Even though Pete was my guy, I did not like him floating the idea of court packing out there cavalierly. And I do not like all the loose talk about court packing that people have been throwing out there without even a hint of the repercussions that it could have on our institutions. "But it was the Republicans who previously ....!" Yeah, ok, let's stop the bleeding. You all can get your damn grubby paws off my judicial branch, the only one left with even a modicum of integrity.
Post by: sys on October 11, 2020, 02:43:40 PM
No. I support Roe, Casey, Whole Women's Health, etc. I don't believe the Court would overturn all of that even with ACB confirmed. Even though Pete was my guy, I did not like him floating the idea of court packing out there cavalierly. And I do not like all the loose talk about court packing that people have been throwing out there without even a hint of the repercussions that it could have on our institutions. "But it was the Republicans who previously ....!" Yeah, ok, let's stop the bleeding. You all can get your damn grubby paws off my judicial branch, the only one left with even a modicum of integrity.
sounds like a biden-cornyn voter to me.
Post by: Kat Kid on October 11, 2020, 02:48:08 PM
Bush v Gore and you are really gonna sit there and act like the judicial branch isn’t already a joke?Is this an abortion thing? Jfc people.
No. I support Roe, Casey, Whole Women's Health, etc. I don't believe the Court would overturn all of that even with ACB confirmed. Even though Pete was my guy, I did not like him floating the idea of court packing out there cavalierly. And I do not like all the loose talk about court packing that people have been throwing out there without even a hint of the repercussions that it could have on our institutions. "But it was the Republicans who previously ....!" Yeah, ok, let's stop the bleeding. You all can get your damn grubby paws off my judicial branch, the only one left with even a modicum of integrity.
Post by: 8manpick on October 11, 2020, 02:48:56 PM
So are you an original 6 justice guy? Did you like it better at 7 or 10? Or is 9 just a perfect number?Is this an abortion thing? Jfc people.
No. I support Roe, Casey, Whole Women's Health, etc. I don't believe the Court would overturn all of that even with ACB confirmed. Even though Pete was my guy, I did not like him floating the idea of court packing out there cavalierly. And I do not like all the loose talk about court packing that people have been throwing out there without even a hint of the repercussions that it could have on our institutions. "But it was the Republicans who previously ....!" Yeah, ok, let's stop the bleeding. You all can get your damn grubby paws off my judicial branch, the only one left with even a modicum of integrity.
Post by: Kat Kid on October 11, 2020, 02:49:58 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 02:56:29 PM
Already alot of action, but just curious Spracs where do you see your Senator's role in this (past few years and the next month or so).
That one's easy, because it's actually spelled out in the Constitution.
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 02:57:16 PM
The Supreme Court is a bunch of rough ridin' hacks.
You and I obviously disagree on that.
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 03:00:37 PM
So are you an original 6 justice guy? Did you like it better at 7 or 10? Or is 9 just a perfect number?Is this an abortion thing? Jfc people.
No. I support Roe, Casey, Whole Women's Health, etc. I don't believe the Court would overturn all of that even with ACB confirmed. Even though Pete was my guy, I did not like him floating the idea of court packing out there cavalierly. And I do not like all the loose talk about court packing that people have been throwing out there without even a hint of the repercussions that it could have on our institutions. "But it was the Republicans who previously ....!" Yeah, ok, let's stop the bleeding. You all can get your damn grubby paws off my judicial branch, the only one left with even a modicum of integrity.
Nine seems to be a good number. It's been that way for a long time. I think it was a bad idea when President Franklin Roosevelt tried to pack the court.
Post by: wetwillie on October 11, 2020, 03:23:44 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 03:28:23 PM
Already alot of action, but just curious Spracs where do you see your Senator's role in this (past few years and the next month or so).
That one's easy, because it's actually spelled out in the Constitution.
I meant on treating appointments to the judicial branch as political and to be done on ideological terms. Do you believe they do this and do you support it.
It says the President shall nominate, and the Senate shall provide advice and consent. If you're referring to Merrick Garland, no I do not support that obvious assfuckery.
Post by: CHONGS on October 11, 2020, 03:30:50 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 03:34:44 PM
I think it's inevitable that Roe and Obergefell (among a lot more "liberal" decisions) will be overturned very soon.
And I simply do not think that. In fact, I find the suggestion silly.
Post by: CHONGS on October 11, 2020, 03:38:55 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 03:41:52 PM
I guess we'll see.
I guess so!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2020, 03:47:45 PM
Post by: CHONGS on October 11, 2020, 03:51:29 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 11, 2020, 03:54:33 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2020, 04:03:16 PM
i don't think gay marriage is at all threatened. it would be disastrous for the gop, i think for the most part they have taken the L and moved on.
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 04:05:38 PM
i'm with spracs, i don't think either of those will be overturned, even with acb. they'd need to replace a few more conservative justices first.
i don't think gay marriage is at all threatened. it would be disastrous for the gop, i think for the most part they have taken the L and moved on.
Yeah, I haven't really heard any clamoring for overturning Obergefell. That one caught me off guard.
Post by: sys on October 11, 2020, 04:08:47 PM
i'm with spracs, i don't think either of those will be overturned, even with acb. they'd need to replace a few more conservative justices first.
i don't think gay marriage is at all threatened. it would be disastrous for the gop, i think for the most part they have taken the L and moved on.
i agree with spracs and star seed on this one, and in doing so disagree with spracs that the supreme court is not essentially a political body.
Post by: Kat Kid on October 11, 2020, 04:14:09 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 05:07:03 PM
The idea that the Supreme Court is not just naked politics is something pushed by lawyers and politics nerds to confuse the rest of the public in to taking it seriously so that politicians can exercise more unaccountable power over the public. I don’t know if spracs is dumb enough to buy it or if he is just trying to play the same game.
Yeah, I disagree. Yes, judges and justices are human beings living in society, and so they have their own faults and biases like the rest of us. The "everything is naked political power" mantra is too cynical for me, and I consider it a facile explanation that does not comport with the complexities of reality. No doubt there have been judicial appointees who were reliable arbiters for the parties that elevated them, but to a far lesser degree than the other two branches of government. And yes, we do have politicians who meddle with the courts and treat them as their own personal sandbox for promoting political agendas.
I think it is an insult to the great majority of judges, however, to paint them as mere political actors (federal judges, that is). We have only three branches of our national government, and only one was structurally designed to minimize political interference with its decisions. That was a good idea in 1791, it's a good idea now, and I will always root for and promote the independence of the judicial department. Indeed, when the political branches of government fail to act for generations, and when the collective action problem becomes so intractable that the machinery of democracy breaks down, sometimes you need the third branch of government to grease the zerks, so to speak. Lifetime appointments are the structural component that allows that to happen.
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Post by: Trim on October 11, 2020, 05:38:27 PM
Post by: sys on October 11, 2020, 05:41:00 PM
judges and justices are human beings living in society, and so they have their own faults and biases like the rest of us. The "everything is naked political power" mantra is too cynical for me, and I consider it a facile explanation that does not comport with the complexities of reality.
i agree with this too. if it wasn't true, it would be relatively inconsequential that the court is going from a 5-4 conservative majority to a 6-3 majority. but virtually everyone agrees that it will be meaningfully different.
Post by: CHONGS on October 11, 2020, 06:16:20 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 06:19:46 PM
The idea that the Supreme Court is not just naked politics is something pushed by lawyers and politics nerds to confuse the rest of the public in to taking it seriously so that politicians can exercise more unaccountable power over the public. I don’t know if spracs is dumb enough to buy it or if he is just trying to play the same game.
I think that has some hyperbole. For the nerds
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/02/6-catholics-1-court-scotus-and-the-rise-of-the-federalist-society-424778
This reminds me, can we also stop referring to FedSoc as some sort of shadowy organization? I get that non-lawyers have never heard of it, but it's a legitimate organization that has chapters at every top law school in the country. Likewise, progressives have the American Constitution Society (ACS), and they too play a role in promoting potential candidates for the federal bench.
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 06:27:43 PM
That was in the podcast :dunno:
I clicked the link but was disappointed to see it was only a stub article. Obviously, I did not listen to the podcast.
Post by: Kat Kid on October 11, 2020, 06:39:41 PM
1791?The idea that the Supreme Court is not just naked politics is something pushed by lawyers and politics nerds to confuse the rest of the public in to taking it seriously so that politicians can exercise more unaccountable power over the public. I don’t know if spracs is dumb enough to buy it or if he is just trying to play the same game.
Yeah, I disagree. Yes, judges and justices are human beings living in society, and so they have their own faults and biases like the rest of us. The "everything is naked political power" mantra is too cynical for me, and I consider it a facile explanation that does not comport with the complexities of reality. No doubt there have been judicial appointees who were reliable arbiters for the parties that elevated them, but to a far lesser degree than the other two branches of government. And yes, we do have politicians who meddle with the courts and treat them as their own personal sandbox for promoting political agendas.
I think it is an insult to the great majority of judges, however, to paint them as mere political actors (federal judges, that is). We have only three branches of our national government, and only one was structurally designed to minimize political interference with its decisions. That was a good idea in 1791, it's a good idea now, and I will always root for and promote the independence of the judicial department. Indeed, when the political branches of government fail to act for generations, and when the collective action problem becomes so intractable that the machinery of democracy breaks down, sometimes you need the third branch of government to grease the zerks, so to speak. Lifetime appointments are the structural component that allows that to happen.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Marbury v Madison was in 1803.
And your caveats are hilarious to begin with. As you well know, at the state and local level in most places the bullshit is dispensed with and judges just run as politicians.
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Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2020, 06:43:09 PM
1791?The idea that the Supreme Court is not just naked politics is something pushed by lawyers and politics nerds to confuse the rest of the public in to taking it seriously so that politicians can exercise more unaccountable power over the public. I don’t know if spracs is dumb enough to buy it or if he is just trying to play the same game.
Yeah, I disagree. Yes, judges and justices are human beings living in society, and so they have their own faults and biases like the rest of us. The "everything is naked political power" mantra is too cynical for me, and I consider it a facile explanation that does not comport with the complexities of reality. No doubt there have been judicial appointees who were reliable arbiters for the parties that elevated them, but to a far lesser degree than the other two branches of government. And yes, we do have politicians who meddle with the courts and treat them as their own personal sandbox for promoting political agendas.
I think it is an insult to the great majority of judges, however, to paint them as mere political actors (federal judges, that is). We have only three branches of our national government, and only one was structurally designed to minimize political interference with its decisions. That was a good idea in 1791, it's a good idea now, and I will always root for and promote the independence of the judicial department. Indeed, when the political branches of government fail to act for generations, and when the collective action problem becomes so intractable that the machinery of democracy breaks down, sometimes you need the third branch of government to grease the zerks, so to speak. Lifetime appointments are the structural component that allows that to happen.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Marbury v Madison was in 1803.
And your caveats are hilarious to begin with. As you well know, at the state and local level in most places the bullshit is dispensed with and judges just run as politicians.
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And I very much disagree with that model, because you have district attorneys and judges whose interests may be too closely aligned.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2020, 08:41:46 AM
Post by: sys on October 12, 2020, 07:34:22 PM
Post by: michigancat on October 12, 2020, 07:50:35 PM
https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1315808294771064832I think Bernie deserves some gosh darn credit for this as well!
Post by: sys on October 12, 2020, 08:15:51 PM
I think Bernie deserves some gosh darn credit for this as well!
as i recall, your comment on biden using sanders to help with this effect was that it was stupid.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 12, 2020, 08:24:41 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/AKNw4Cu.jpg)
Post by: cfbandyman on October 12, 2020, 08:35:15 PM
https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1315808294771064832
Things become more moderate the further right the right goes.
Post by: cfbandyman on October 12, 2020, 08:36:23 PM
Spotted in Smallsville, KS:
(https://i.imgur.com/AKNw4Cu.jpg)
Impressive, but even many of the journeys in smalltown KS this summer and early fall there is a small, but noticeable Biden lean out there
Post by: michigancat on October 12, 2020, 08:59:04 PM
I don't recallI think Bernie deserves some gosh darn credit for this as well!
as i recall, your comment on biden using sanders to help with this effect was that it was stupid.
Post by: kim carnes on October 12, 2020, 09:00:34 PM
Post by: sys on October 12, 2020, 09:05:33 PM
I don't recall
https://twitter.com/hctrudo/status/1313491642649804804?s=21
Sitting in the middle laughing. What a crap show.
this highlights why it's so dumb, it doesn't fire you up at all
Post by: sys on October 12, 2020, 09:15:42 PM
https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1315800609887584256
Post by: IPA4Me on October 12, 2020, 09:22:00 PM
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Post by: sys on October 12, 2020, 09:29:04 PM
Serious question. Do you really think the right is moving further right?
what is the context?
are red-leaning areas of the country becoming more red?
is the right-wing of the republican party moving even farther to the right?
is the average republican becoming more conservative?
something else?
Post by: IPA4Me on October 12, 2020, 09:31:19 PM
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Post by: bucket on October 12, 2020, 09:35:13 PM
I've lived around quite a few red states over the years. I don't see things have changed with their positions all that much.
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Personally, I think with the rise of cable news we've seen more polarization and as a result more congressional gridlock.
Post by: IPA4Me on October 12, 2020, 09:37:45 PM
Social media definitely drives the wedge further.I've lived around quite a few red states over the years. I don't see things have changed with their positions all that much.
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Personally, I think with the rise of cable news we've seen more polarization and as a result more congressional gridlock.
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Post by: sys on October 12, 2020, 09:39:23 PM
I've lived around quite a few red states over the years. I don't see things have changed with their positions all that much.
david shor agrees with that view. his data shows that more of the divergence has been dems becoming more liberal (also a lot of the polarization isn't really people moving left or right, just better ideological sorting by party).
Post by: MakeItRain on October 12, 2020, 09:52:19 PM
Serious question. Do you really think the right is moving further right?
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You asking about party agenda or rank and file republicans and what time frame are you referring to? The party agenda has definitely slid right since it was taken over by evangelicals. The party of limited government is long gone. Republicans have adopted 2nd amendment rights as a standard bearer issue, when it wasn't that as late as the 90's. If a Republican legislator proposed something similar to the Brady Bill today, I honestly think they would be kicked out of the caucus, I'm not kidding. Sandra Day O'Connor upheld abortion rights, I don't know if Republicans would even come close to considering a justice without an abortion litmus test.
What was formally known as compassionate conservatism now has no place in the party. You have a party that now pushes Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley, Roy Blunt, and Joni Ernst to the front and has pushed Lisa Murkowski, Pat Roberts, and Mitt Romney to lesser roles. Look at people who used to be moderates like Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio, having to shift right, on the fly, to stay relevant.
I think a combo of Barack Obama and the religious right mumped your party and next month will be your comeuppance. Same thing happened to the libs, in the late 90's, but the blood letting was much slower.
Take your party back and reopen the big tent y'all used to tout.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 12, 2020, 09:59:08 PM
Post by: michigancat on October 12, 2020, 10:40:35 PM
Ah yes! They are kinda the same but also different but I see your point!I don't recallhttps://twitter.com/hctrudo/status/1313491642649804804?s=21Sitting in the middle laughing. What a crap show.
this highlights why it's so dumb, it doesn't fire you up at all
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2020, 10:41:46 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 12, 2020, 10:53:02 PM
Post by: sys on October 13, 2020, 06:59:27 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 13, 2020, 07:04:30 PM
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Post by: Phil Titola on October 13, 2020, 07:33:47 PM
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1316165991718621186
Do they have taco trucks out there now or something?
Begging old suburban moms to like him? How far he's fallen from just grabbing vag and getting what he "needs"
Post by: sys on October 13, 2020, 09:19:40 PM
Post by: sys on October 13, 2020, 09:41:37 PM
Post by: sys on October 13, 2020, 10:08:21 PM
https://twitter.com/WinWithJMC/status/1316212287594737666
Post by: michigancat on October 13, 2020, 10:16:50 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 13, 2020, 10:29:40 PM
How on earth did obama only win in Harris county by 1000 votes
Right? That's got to be a typo.
Post by: sys on October 13, 2020, 10:50:25 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 13, 2020, 11:35:58 PM
texas cities were red until very recently.
Houston tho?
Post by: sys on October 13, 2020, 11:54:20 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 13, 2020, 11:57:03 PM
Post by: michigancat on October 13, 2020, 11:58:10 PM
The craziest thing about that is the jump from 2012 to 2016, they aren't lying about changing demographics.
yeah I just randomly picked a Harris county district and holy crap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas%27s_7th_congressional_district
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2020, 12:04:11 AM
The craziest thing about that is the jump from 2012 to 2016, they aren't lying about changing demographics.
yeah I just randomly picked a Harris county district and holy crap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas%27s_7th_congressional_district
I really don't get voting habits. How did Beto and Abbot essentially get the same amount of votes from the same people in that district?
Like here in Iowa where Joni Ernst is polling double digits behind her democratic opponent, but trump is polling even with Biden. It makes no sense.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2020, 12:06:22 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/KGcMb8m/PXL-20201014-045813438.jpg)
Post by: IPA4Me on October 14, 2020, 05:23:14 AM
That's a quickly developing area of Houston with tons of new folks moving in. Easy to see how that district could be blue.The craziest thing about that is the jump from 2012 to 2016, they aren't lying about changing demographics.
yeah I just randomly picked a Harris county district and holy crap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas%27s_7th_congressional_district
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Post by: cfbandyman on October 14, 2020, 07:19:51 AM
The craziest thing about that is the jump from 2012 to 2016, they aren't lying about changing demographics.
yeah I just randomly picked a Harris county district and holy crap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas%27s_7th_congressional_district
Is it the RABA poll? Only double digit one I see:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/senate/iowa/
It's also like here in KS with Bollier being slightly ahead but KS of course will go trump. I think a lot of it is motivation and caring about down ballot (though Senator ain't exactly "down") elections.
I really don't get voting habits. How did Beto and Abbot essentially get the same amount of votes from the same people in that district?
Like here in Iowa where Joni Ernst is polling double digits behind her democratic opponent, but trump is polling even with Biden. It makes no sense.
Post by: sys on October 14, 2020, 07:39:25 PM
Post by: sys on October 14, 2020, 08:46:55 PM
https://twitter.com/jomalleydillon/status/1316549946385010688
Post by: sys on October 14, 2020, 09:55:14 PM
https://twitter.com/williamjordann/status/1316560147771252736
Post by: cfbandyman on October 14, 2020, 10:55:11 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on October 15, 2020, 08:17:28 AM
With the amount of early voting going on....I kinda think if the number is above 20 million by friday 11:59 PM 10-16-2020, that the Democrats will win. If it's below that I'll venture to say it's a toss up. However, the GOP might have shot themselves in the foot with COVID and Election Day voting. IF the COVID virus is rising and poll workers refuse to show up (very likely as most are elderly) the almost 70/30 Trump vote would be diminished across the board. The ultimate irony would be that for once they'd have to wait in long lines and that poll places would be closed without advanced knowledge leading for them to scramble (probably give up 20% of them) on where to vote crushing GOP down ballot, possibly swinging numerous state legislatures to Democrat control (GA Senate, TX House, ending veto proof majorities) and making a 2020 redistricting year more favorable, and could give Democrats the almost clear path to the House throughout the 2020s
Why wouldn't poll workers show up? They knew about COVID when they signed up to do it this year.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 15, 2020, 08:22:29 AM
Post by: michigancat on October 15, 2020, 08:34:40 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 15, 2020, 12:11:43 PM
Yeah, there are more than enough idiots who don't care if they get COVID to work the polls.
I'm considering working the polls. If I can't find a non profit that needs help with an election day initiative, I'm going to do it. In Iowa you have to commit to working from 6:00AM to 10:00PM to do it.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 15, 2020, 12:38:23 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 15, 2020, 05:20:49 PM
https://twitter.com/Reporterroblang/status/1316826495638269953?s=20
Post by: chum1 on October 15, 2020, 07:52:09 PM
Post by: sys on October 15, 2020, 08:06:52 PM
https://twitter.com/zachdespart/status/1316882756815773696
Post by: sys on October 15, 2020, 09:05:03 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 15, 2020, 09:18:56 PM
Post by: catastrophe on October 15, 2020, 10:38:56 PM
Post by: sys on October 15, 2020, 10:44:39 PM
This may have already been covered, but why so much focus on Harris County again?
my twitter feed is pretty heavily texas biased and harris county is the most populous county in texas and also is the texas county with the most pronounced early voting response.
Post by: sys on October 16, 2020, 08:32:10 PM
https://twitter.com/brent858/status/1317273365049188352
Post by: sys on October 16, 2020, 09:12:01 PM
Post by: sys on October 16, 2020, 09:25:40 PM
Post by: sys on October 17, 2020, 08:28:03 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 17, 2020, 08:38:34 PM
Post by: sys on October 17, 2020, 08:49:33 PM
She is a KU alum right?
as far as anyone knows.
Post by: steve dave on October 18, 2020, 07:42:00 AM
Absentee Ballot
Ballot Sent
09/28/2020
Ballot Returned
10/05/2020
Ballot Status
Accepted
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 18, 2020, 08:48:51 AM
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1317822839467220994?s=21
Post by: steve dave on October 18, 2020, 06:39:52 PM
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 18, 2020, 07:24:37 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 18, 2020, 07:31:15 PM
I hope all the gE JOCO residents filled out “yes” bubble on alcohol question.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 18, 2020, 10:32:43 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 18, 2020, 10:42:00 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 18, 2020, 10:51:52 PM
Post by: sys on October 18, 2020, 11:29:52 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2020, 06:21:40 AM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-parliament-prosecutor-idUSKCN0Y311A
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https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1317981940981653504?s=21
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2020, 11:04:13 AM
Perfectly capable of carrying on a robust daily White House schedule, though. Provided that schedule is from 9:30am to 1:30pm.
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 19, 2020, 11:22:45 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2020, 11:25:29 AM
Read the room Dax. Good grief.
Oh look, Da Big Psycho is going to get all :curse: because someone is saying mean things about
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 19, 2020, 11:51:55 AM
Post by: PurpleOil on October 19, 2020, 02:47:58 PM
Hopefully the current trend line of K-Streeter’s , K-Street advisors and Neo-Con’s that will likely fill the Biden administration. Stops at not allowing one of the worst human beings on the planet to set foot inside any wing of the WH.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1317822839467220994?s=21
Interesting. How many fascist autocrats actually get voted out of office? Can someone provide a statistic on that for me?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2020, 04:13:21 PM
Hopefully the current trend line of K-Streeter’s , K-Street advisors and Neo-Con’s that will likely fill the Biden administration. Stops at not allowing one of the worst human beings on the planet to set foot inside any wing of the WH.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1317822839467220994?s=21
Interesting. How many fascist autocrats actually get voted out of office? Can someone provide a statistic on that for me?
Don't stop Ben, he's got some sanctimony wrapped in a regime change or two coming up. Busy busy man.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2020, 04:20:04 PM
https://twitter.com/boknowsnews/status/1317275294194085888?s=21
Post by: GregKSU1027 on October 19, 2020, 04:24:03 PM
Same here in ks, im already signed up.Yeah, there are more than enough idiots who don't care if they get COVID to work the polls.
I'm considering working the polls. If I can't find a non profit that needs help with an election day initiative, I'm going to do it. In Iowa you have to commit to working from 6:00AM to 10:00PM to do it.
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Post by: sys on October 19, 2020, 07:19:54 PM
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1318340294832771072
Post by: CHONGS on October 19, 2020, 07:21:36 PM
Post by: bucket on October 19, 2020, 07:41:52 PM
There's really no point.
I wouldn't feel like an alcoholic getting drunk on a Thursday night.
Post by: kim carnes on October 19, 2020, 07:55:02 PM
There's really no point.
I wouldn't feel like an alcoholic getting drunk on a Thursday night.
Most adult men drink like 6 nights a week
Post by: bucket on October 19, 2020, 08:02:27 PM
There's really no point.
I wouldn't feel like an alcoholic getting drunk on a Thursday night.
Most adult men drink like 6 nights a week
I have to get pretty toasted to watch a Trump debate.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2020, 08:17:13 PM
https://twitter.com/50cent/status/1318303260164431873?s=20
Post by: sys on October 19, 2020, 08:27:15 PM
https://twitter.com/HarrisVotes/status/1318358950136434689
Post by: steve dave on October 19, 2020, 08:37:31 PM
Fifty says vote for NAACP Ellis Island award winner Don Trump!Interesting award comment dax :sdeek:
https://twitter.com/50cent/status/1318303260164431873?s=20
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2020, 08:48:09 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2020, 08:49:32 PM
Post by: treysolid on October 19, 2020, 11:20:06 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 20, 2020, 06:16:17 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 20, 2020, 07:03:17 AM
He is at least keenly aware that Trump does not like black people.
Joe "Crime Bill" Biden certainly doesn't like POC, unless of course the POC is articulate, bright, clean, nice looking. . . and acts white.
But he's putting on a stoic face for BidenVoter Nation.
Post by: Kat Kid on October 20, 2020, 07:14:08 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on October 20, 2020, 07:33:11 AM
I just can't respect 50 cent for just complaining about a high tax rate, when Ice Cube is out here offering a "plan to re-invest in black America" that also includes "reparations" in the form of no income tax for African-Americans. 50 should be reading the Ice Cube plan and getting on board with that policy proposal.Isn't 50 broke?
Post by: Kat Kid on October 20, 2020, 07:45:32 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 20, 2020, 07:53:06 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 20, 2020, 07:57:15 AM
Not surprising given ChiCom Joe's K-Street Stooge Status
Post by: wetwillie on October 20, 2020, 08:00:42 AM
I don't think so.
He went bankrupt but he must be anticipating stacking some major paper in 2021
Post by: Phil Titola on October 20, 2020, 09:23:29 AM
Post by: Trim on October 20, 2020, 09:52:26 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 20, 2020, 10:46:56 AM
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Post by: Spracne on October 20, 2020, 10:57:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6atqst.png)
Yes!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 20, 2020, 10:59:34 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on October 20, 2020, 11:49:06 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 20, 2020, 12:19:07 PM
https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1318486124667588608
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Clearly Russian disinformation and Steele is probably a Russian agent (Schiff Channeling)
Post by: steve dave on October 20, 2020, 07:37:49 PM
https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1318707740504514561
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 20, 2020, 07:43:32 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 20, 2020, 07:49:16 PM
https://twitter.com/SeanLangille/status/1318673941624426497?s=20
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 20, 2020, 07:57:10 PM
Post by: sys on October 20, 2020, 08:24:35 PM
https://twitter.com/ElectProject/status/1318722922987606019
Post by: sys on October 20, 2020, 09:00:47 PM
https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1318694078914170881
Post by: sys on October 20, 2020, 09:40:25 PM
oh, and i forgot about this. trump has had to plow a ton of money back into fundraising to keep the spigot on.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-20/trump-fundraisers-spun-wheels-spending-77-cents-to-bring-in-1
Post by: sys on October 20, 2020, 10:36:13 PM
https://twitter.com/evanasmith/status/1318695829188808710
Post by: cfbandyman on October 21, 2020, 07:40:09 AM
goddamn, i've been saying 11 m, and was worried i was pushing it.
https://twitter.com/evanasmith/status/1318695829188808710
4.7 mil already voted, so possible
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 21, 2020, 07:53:24 AM
According to prosecutors at Archer’s trial, Archer and Biden were also connected to the Burnham Financial Group, “where his business partner Devon Archer — sat on the board of directors.” Biden was listed as the vice-president. Although Burnham was not named in any court proceedings, they were the alleged placement agent for the Wakpamni Lake Community Corporation tribal bond offerings
https://www.indianz.com/News/2020/01/27/hunter-bidens-name-used-to-legitimize-sa.asp
Post by: IPA4Me on October 21, 2020, 10:35:29 AM
https://www.investors.com/news/trump-vs-biden-poll-race-tightens-like-2016-ibd-tipp-2020-presidential-poll/
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Post by: IPA4Me on October 21, 2020, 11:00:21 AM
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1318908914411372545?s=19
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 21, 2020, 11:58:33 AM
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1318959223611576327?s=20
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 21, 2020, 12:13:56 PM
The Chinese were and are embedded into the Biden Family (corrupt Ukrainians and Russians as well).
Joe Biden has repeatedly lied about his involvement in his son's business an it was truly BidenFamily Inc. while Joe served as VPOTUS.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 21, 2020, 12:17:16 PM
Post by: Trim on October 21, 2020, 12:21:56 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 21, 2020, 12:25:28 PM
I finally looked up who glenn greenwald is.
And . . .
Post by: cfbandyman on October 21, 2020, 12:38:55 PM
Nate Silver sticking to the averages. Biden winning electoral and popular.
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1318908914411372545?s=19
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Why he's near the top in this.
Also glad he points out state polls, more important anyways
Post by: Trim on October 21, 2020, 12:41:59 PM
I finally looked up who glenn greenwald is.
And . . .
All that I could’ve hoped for and then some.
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 21, 2020, 01:28:19 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on October 21, 2020, 01:29:00 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/21/rudy-giuliani-faces-questions-after-compromising-scene-in-new-borat-film
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 21, 2020, 01:46:18 PM
I finally looked up who glenn greenwald is.
And . . .
All that I could’ve hoped for and then some.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 21, 2020, 02:03:54 PM
Hunter Biden Oct. 15th, 2019 NBC: "I don’t think that there’s a lot of things that would have happened in my life if my last name wasn’t Biden," he added, "because my dad was Vice President of the United States."
Joe Biden:
WISN Reporter: Together with other Biden family members, profited off the Biden name
Joe Biden Response: None whatsoever
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: IPA4Me on October 21, 2020, 09:28:47 PM
https://twitter.com/aaronjcarpenter/status/1319022097981755393?s=19
https://twitter.com/KMCRadio/status/1319008289439518721?s=19
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 21, 2020, 09:34:50 PM
Post by: bucket on October 21, 2020, 09:36:19 PM
Saw on the news tonight that new Republican registrations, the last couple of weeks, have outpaced Dems 2 to 1 in Pennsylvania.
CNN reported increased Republican registration in swing states tonight.
Post by: cfbandyman on October 21, 2020, 09:47:46 PM
Saw on the news tonight that new Republican registrations, the last couple of weeks, have outpaced Dems 2 to 1 in Pennsylvania.
They might need it?
Mail Ballots Returned by Party Registration
Party Returned Ballots Freq. Distribution Requested Ballots Return Rate
Democrats 847,350 71.8 1,825,586 46.4
Republicans 227,481 19.3 714,079 31.9
Minor 7,153 0.6 22,617 31.6
No Party Affiliation 97,828 8.3 299,618 32.7
TOTAL 1,179,812 100.0 2,861,900 41.2
Post by: MakeItRain on October 21, 2020, 09:49:36 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 21, 2020, 10:01:19 PM
https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html
2 to 1 means about 140k to 70k per this article when you math it
https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/trumps-voter-registration-advantage-over-biden-may-play-out-on-election-day
So, yes, that is something, but it might not mean that much, we'll see. Article also said that increased independent #s are very anti trump. While I would also def support the idea that new pubs are very trump, I could also see some previously pubs not being so much, but, I be that # isn't that high
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 06:52:47 AM
https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1319077381685055488
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 08:07:28 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 08:45:51 AM
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1319044442872053766
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 08:55:01 AM
https://twitter.com/ElectProject/status/1319272953113083904
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 09:07:15 AM
Interesting, but Russian DisInfo (Schiff’s Law)
Post by: 8manpick on October 22, 2020, 09:08:02 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 09:09:25 AM
I mean how god damn stupid are we that we only voted on a single day for decades?Yes, what the hell
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Post by: Phil Titola on October 22, 2020, 09:14:54 AM
I mean how god damn stupid are we that we only voted on a single day for decades?Yes, what the hell
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Walked out this week commenting the same thing. Voter suppression is the only real answer.
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 09:30:13 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1319274192211247104
Post by: Cire on October 22, 2020, 09:33:23 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on October 22, 2020, 09:37:15 AM
I firmly believe that every thing the pub's are screeching about dems is pure projection. Legit worried they are going to voter fraud their asses off...
Trump was flat out encouraging it in North Carolina
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 10:16:30 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 10:18:09 AM
T&P’s to each one of you.
Post by: cfbandyman on October 22, 2020, 10:19:54 AM
I mean how god damn stupid are we that we only voted on a single day for decades?Yes, what the hell
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Walked out this week commenting the same thing. Voter suppression is the only real answer.
Yup, why pubs been fighting against all these changes tooth and nail, though it really shouldn't matter, I never understood this idea that if you have the right to vote, trying to make it as hard as possible, yes from the idea of trying to silence the other side, but realistically opening voting to all helps both sides, and gets people engaged.
We do a lot of weird crap because "it's how we've always done it". I am just glad Joco does voting the way it should, I haven't voted on election day itself since the once year I lived on the MO side in 2012. It's just so damn easy in KS
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 22, 2020, 10:21:44 AM
I just can’t imagine what 3rd world hell holes you guys must live in where voting in person is such a trying process.Says an old white dude who lives in an area of the country that has extremely high voter suppression. The lack of self awareness continues to astonish.
T&P’s to each one of you.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 10:23:48 AM
Grats
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 10:24:42 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 10:25:40 AM
Only total dipshits like you think Voter ID is suppression and posted by someone who lives in a historical epicenter of voter fraud.I just can’t imagine what 3rd world hell holes you guys must live in where voting in person is such a trying process.Says an old white dude who lives in an area of the country that has extremely high voter suppression. The lack of self awareness continues to astonish.
T&P’s to each one of you.
Post by: Phil Titola on October 22, 2020, 10:27:08 AM
Post by: Trim on October 22, 2020, 10:27:29 AM
But that could generally be solved by eliminating the concept of "election day" and turning it into "election month."
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 10:27:41 AM
lmaoRead the (edited) that’s Path to Power and Means of Ascent sometime, Steve. Johnson’s whole career was built by Halliburton then Brown and Root and winning a congressional seat on the back of voter fraud.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2020, 10:41:49 AM
Post by: Trim on October 22, 2020, 10:44:08 AM
I think there are logical arguments one could make for voting to happen on one day, like giving all running a defined schedule with which to strategize campaigns or that it reduces disincentive to vote if those voters think that it's over based on early votes and what they've heard about those results.
But that could generally be solved by eliminating the concept of "election day" and turning it into "election month."
We've basically had election month for in person voting (reduced sites tho). I could definitely go for election week, it's very nice to have some leeway on when to stroll into the polls (I've always been to lazy to fill out the forms or even look up how to get a mail in ballot). Where I live the polling site is never crazy busy, might have to wait like 5 minutes at the most in line, so it isn't like it's a hassle or time crunch normally.
I’m talking more about calendaring than physical things, and it would matter whether voting is in-person or otherwise. It needs to be accepted that voting commences on October ___, with debates having happened and most candidates having shot their load by that start date.
I like getting my ballot and the book that has all the breakdowns and gives me 3-4 weeks to get up to speed on all the down-ballot things I’ve never heard of. But we should have all the complete info by that start date and then it’s just a matter of me taking my time to fill the thing out and drop it off.
Post by: 8manpick on October 22, 2020, 10:48:08 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on October 22, 2020, 11:07:04 AM
My voting place is literally across the street and mail in ballots look like a lot of work in Missouri so I'll just wait until election day.
You can go to Union Station today and go in person and avoid potential lines (I did wait in line Tuesday for 15 minutes)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2020, 11:10:44 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 11:12:18 AM
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1319090595814670336?s=20
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2020, 11:14:01 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 11:24:22 AM
Dax, what part do you not understand?
Just a very weird post IMO, BidenVoter.7.
We never lived up to it relative to what? The new standards as unilaterally declared by perpetually enraged BidenVoter Nation?
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 11:27:45 AM
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Post by: Phil Titola on October 22, 2020, 11:31:02 AM
So I can drive 20 minutes from my home or 40 minutes from my work to vote today? Awesome!Choice is yours my friend, just putting it out there given the unknown wait of election day. kCEB has other in person sites now too.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2020, 11:34:11 AM
Choice is yours my friend, just putting it out there given the unknown wait of election day. kCEB has other in person sites now too.
:)
So I can drive 20 minutes from my home or 40 minutes from my work to vote today? Awesome!
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 22, 2020, 01:41:39 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on October 22, 2020, 03:25:06 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 05:08:54 PM
https://twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1319390478509420545?s=21
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 05:30:20 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 05:41:28 PM
A lot of what Gummy said has been known. BidenVoter doesn’t care what mega corrupt Biden Family Inc was up to.
Direct business dealings with PLA front companies as well as the Party’s Bank aka The Bank of China
SMDH
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 05:43:03 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 05:43:09 PM
Considering the majority of trump's base are uneducated and without college degrees (purely by the numbers this is true... and has been true of the GOP overall since about 04) wouldn't it be uneducated would push/read this?Care to discuss the content turnbull or are you going to keep the DeflectoMeters on Full?BidenVoter won’t read, but smart people probably should.
https://twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1319390478509420545?s=21
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 05:44:16 PM
Makes senseJust say no to corruption unless it’s the Biden’s. (BidenVoter SteveDave)
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Post by: sys on October 22, 2020, 07:50:47 PM
https://twitter.com/FinancialTimes/status/1319390610424561664
Post by: MakeItRain on October 22, 2020, 08:36:37 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 22, 2020, 08:37:14 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 10:12:14 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 22, 2020, 10:21:38 PM
We've been reduced to using @gummibear737 as a source.Dax has posted these tweets for some time as absolute 100% truth. While also saying tweets and facts by verified journalists that oppose Trump are 100% false. So, yeah.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 10:24:20 PM
Verified Journalists? LOL.We've been reduced to using @gummibear737 as a source.Dax has posted these tweets for some time as absolute 100% truth. While also saying tweets and facts by verified journalists that oppose Trump are 100% false. So, yeah.
Good Grief.
These “verified journalists” predecided on a news story. That’s not journalism, that’s political activism.
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 22, 2020, 10:25:50 PM
Yeah, rando gummi bear on twitter is more credible. For sure.Verified Journalists? LOL.We've been reduced to using @gummibear737 as a source.Dax has posted these tweets for some time as absolute 100% truth. While also saying tweets and facts by verified journalists that oppose Trump are 100% false. So, yeah.
Good Grief.
These “verified journalists” predecided on a news story. That’s not journalism, that’s political activism.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 10:29:10 PM
You didn’t read it, and he outlined it using your “credible” news sources. I’ll drawn you in articles outlining that PLA front company the Biden’s were dealing with and their reps who are either in jail or disappeared.Yeah, rando gummi bear on twitter is more credible. For sure.Verified Journalists? LOL.We've been reduced to using @gummibear737 as a source.Dax has posted these tweets for some time as absolute 100% truth. While also saying tweets and facts by verified journalists that oppose Trump are 100% false. So, yeah.
Good Grief.
These “verified journalists” predecided on a news story. That’s not journalism, that’s political activism.
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 22, 2020, 10:32:57 PM
Ooh yes. Let’s talk about affiliated people in Trump vs Biden people who are in jail/and or in trial for criminal acts! You will have to defend SO many people, might have to hire and assistant!You didn’t read it, and he outlined it using your “credible” news sources. I’ll drawn you in articles outlining that PLA front company the Biden’s were dealing with and their reps who are either in jail or disappeared.Yeah, rando gummi bear on twitter is more credible. For sure.Verified Journalists? LOL.We've been reduced to using @gummibear737 as a source.Dax has posted these tweets for some time as absolute 100% truth. While also saying tweets and facts by verified journalists that oppose Trump are 100% false. So, yeah.
Good Grief.
These “verified journalists” predecided on a news story. That’s not journalism, that’s political activism.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 10:35:45 PM
The perpetual tap out never stops from DBPOoh yes. Let’s talk about affiliated people in Trump vs Biden people who are in jail/and or in trial for criminal acts! You will have to defend SO many people, might have to hire and assistant!You didn’t read it, and he outlined it using your “credible” news sources. I’ll drawn you in articles outlining that PLA front company the Biden’s were dealing with and their reps who are either in jail or disappeared.Yeah, rando gummi bear on twitter is more credible. For sure.Verified Journalists? LOL.We've been reduced to using @gummibear737 as a source.Dax has posted these tweets for some time as absolute 100% truth. While also saying tweets and facts by verified journalists that oppose Trump are 100% false. So, yeah.
Good Grief.
These “verified journalists” predecided on a news story. That’s not journalism, that’s political activism.
Your guy is owned keys and title by the Chinese.
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Post by: DaBigTrain on October 22, 2020, 10:38:25 PM
The fact you deflect from this is quite telling :lol:The perpetual tap out never stops from DBPOoh yes. Let’s talk about affiliated people in Trump vs Biden people who are in jail/and or in trial for criminal acts! You will have to defend SO many people, might have to hire and assistant!You didn’t read it, and he outlined it using your “credible” news sources. I’ll drawn you in articles outlining that PLA front company the Biden’s were dealing with and their reps who are either in jail or disappeared.Yeah, rando gummi bear on twitter is more credible. For sure.Verified Journalists? LOL.We've been reduced to using @gummibear737 as a source.Dax has posted these tweets for some time as absolute 100% truth. While also saying tweets and facts by verified journalists that oppose Trump are 100% false. So, yeah.
Good Grief.
These “verified journalists” predecided on a news story. That’s not journalism, that’s political activism.
Your guy is owned keys and title by the Chinese.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2020, 10:43:15 PM
As usual you tackled none of the facts because you don’t understand the facts.The fact you deflect from this is quite telling :lol:The perpetual tap out never stops from DBPOoh yes. Let’s talk about affiliated people in Trump vs Biden people who are in jail/and or in trial for criminal acts! You will have to defend SO many people, might have to hire and assistant!You didn’t read it, and he outlined it using your “credible” news sources. I’ll drawn you in articles outlining that PLA front company the Biden’s were dealing with and their reps who are either in jail or disappeared.Yeah, rando gummi bear on twitter is more credible. For sure.Verified Journalists? LOL.We've been reduced to using @gummibear737 as a source.Dax has posted these tweets for some time as absolute 100% truth. While also saying tweets and facts by verified journalists that oppose Trump are 100% false. So, yeah.
Good Grief.
These “verified journalists” predecided on a news story. That’s not journalism, that’s political activism.
Your guy is owned keys and title by the Chinese.
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You throw out laughable bullshit like “verified journalists”. LOL.
Post by: sys on October 23, 2020, 12:58:02 AM
https://twitter.com/CATargetBot/status/1319477432886325249
Post by: chum1 on October 23, 2020, 06:38:14 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 23, 2020, 08:04:17 AM
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1319619829364568065
Post by: Phil Titola on October 23, 2020, 08:14:39 AM
if any one of the east coast states of PA (likely), FL (toss up), or NC (unlikely) calls it for Biden it will be a very early night because Trump will have zero path to victory from there.
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1319619829364568065
Relevant
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/23/926258497/when-will-mail-in-ballots-be-counted-see-states-processing-timelines
Post by: chum1 on October 23, 2020, 08:19:26 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 23, 2020, 08:31:45 AM
In summary, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting
US vice president and Secretary of State who was with high probability directly or indirectly invested in
the holding company.
This document is far too deep for most on here, cross-referenced with links, pics, timelines etc. It's a full outline of how just how deep the Biden's (and Kerry's) are/were with the Chinese.
The Chinese Communist Party had it's hooks deep into the Oval Office of these United States of America.
This is why multiple State Department wonks were very concerned about Biden Family Inc. But were silenced by Obama.
https://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/KVBJHB.pdf
Post by: star seed 7 on October 23, 2020, 08:35:42 AM
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Post by: steve dave on October 23, 2020, 12:15:41 PM
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1319681169315811329
Post by: sys on October 23, 2020, 08:30:24 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/us/politics/trump-campaign-money.html
Post by: sys on October 23, 2020, 09:30:00 PM
https://twitter.com/jaspscherer/status/1319810380777070593
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 25, 2020, 01:30:30 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 25, 2020, 01:59:45 PM
Then the Ukraine. Joe’s the point man while Hunter draws millions from a corrupt Ukrainian company.
Joe-Hunter-Jim and the Kerry’s. Quite an operation.
Nothing to see here (BidenVoter).
(biggest individual contributors to the CF include Ukrainians and Russians).
SMDH.
Post by: wetwillie on October 25, 2020, 02:01:42 PM
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Post by: Trim on October 25, 2020, 10:05:57 PM
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/oct/25/editorial-trump-for-president-inslee-for-governor
This happens to be the paper that employs today’s DUD (football).
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 25, 2020, 10:26:14 PM
https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1320546729503137794?s=20
Can't have 4 more years of George W . . .
Post by: IPA4Me on October 26, 2020, 07:52:04 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 26, 2020, 10:50:14 AM
Prep time for turning up the RONA if needed. Maybe get a few protests in the bullpen just in case.
Post by: steve dave on October 26, 2020, 12:29:25 PM
https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1320546729503137794?s=20
Can't have 4 more years of George W . . .
lmao dax
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1320766181637263366
Post by: steve dave on October 26, 2020, 12:30:17 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2020, 12:31:13 PM
(both trump and dax)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 26, 2020, 12:54:33 PM
Easily manipulated :frown:
(both trump and dax)
Sorry your guy can't remember the names Disenfranchised DNC Member.7.
Post by: Institutional Control on October 26, 2020, 01:19:06 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 26, 2020, 01:24:00 PM
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Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2020, 01:25:40 PM
Biden has no real shot in TX but how purple it has gotten is crazy
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Probably due to K-State owning Texas
Post by: Institutional Control on October 26, 2020, 01:33:58 PM
Post by: mocat on October 26, 2020, 01:42:28 PM
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1320789848891031561?s=19
Post by: Brock Landers on October 26, 2020, 01:47:43 PM
In my Dallas suburb I can tell you that I see half as many Trump signs in yards as I did four years ago. There are more Trump signs than Biden signs by double but I also know several people who do not wan the attention of Trump supporters by putting a sign in their yard. I have a Biden/Harris sign and I also have a Dump Trump flag that I put on the back of my golf cart. My wife won't ride on the cart with the flag and she made me install cameras before putting up the Biden sign.
I would be leery of putting up any Biden signage too. No need to make yourself a target to weirdo Trumpers.
Post by: Gooch on October 26, 2020, 02:03:42 PM
In my Dallas suburb I can tell you that I see half as many Trump signs in yards as I did four years ago. There are more Trump signs than Biden signs by double but I also know several people who do not wan the attention of Trump supporters by putting a sign in their yard. I have a Biden/Harris sign and I also have a Dump Trump flag that I put on the back of my golf cart. My wife won't ride on the cart with the flag and she made me install cameras before putting up the Biden sign.GOP guy two houses down from me has every GOP sign in his yard but Trump. Still very concerned about the "shy" Trump voters in the 'burbs.
Post by: Institutional Control on October 26, 2020, 02:05:22 PM
In my Dallas suburb I can tell you that I see half as many Trump signs in yards as I did four years ago. There are more Trump signs than Biden signs by double but I also know several people who do not wan the attention of Trump supporters by putting a sign in their yard. I have a Biden/Harris sign and I also have a Dump Trump flag that I put on the back of my golf cart. My wife won't ride on the cart with the flag and she made me install cameras before putting up the Biden sign.
I would be leery of putting up any Biden signage too. No need to make yourself a target to weirdo Trumpers.
eff them.
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 26, 2020, 02:06:44 PM
Easily manipulated :frown:While it is :lol:
(both trump and dax)
It’s also pretty sad and pathetic.
Post by: cfbandyman on October 26, 2020, 02:51:47 PM
In my Dallas suburb I can tell you that I see half as many Drumpf signs in yards as I did four years ago. There are more Drumpf signs than Biden signs by double but I also know several people who do not wan the attention of Drumpf supporters by putting a sign in their yard. I have a Biden/Harris sign and I also have a Dump Drumpf flag that I put on the back of my golf cart. My wife won't ride on the cart with the flag and she made me install cameras before putting up the Biden sign.GOP guy two houses down from me has every GOP sign in his yard but Drumpf. Still very concerned about the "shy" Drumpf voters in the 'burbs.
There definitely a lot of them, any Marshall/Adkins signs I see in joco rarely come paired with a trump sign, so do, but very very few.
Post by: sys on October 26, 2020, 07:11:40 PM
Biden has no real shot in TX but how purple it has gotten is crazy.
he has a real shot. probably north of 50%.
Post by: steve dave on October 26, 2020, 07:23:58 PM
Silver has him at like 35% but that’s all I really followBiden has no real shot in TX but how purple it has gotten is crazy.
he has a real shot. probably north of 50%.
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Post by: sys on October 26, 2020, 07:37:06 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 26, 2020, 08:02:08 PM
Post by: sys on October 26, 2020, 08:25:02 PM
So polls are pretty rosey for Biden has that changed people's expectation on when the election results will come in? Or that really doesn't matter since neither candidate will want to concede for like 2-3 weeks anyways.
we'll know the winner on election night.
Post by: Institutional Control on October 26, 2020, 08:27:45 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 27, 2020, 08:11:07 AM
Good rope-a-dope method to avoid questions about Biden Family Inc
Post by: Phil Titola on October 27, 2020, 12:01:36 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republican-us-attorneys-back-biden/2020/10/27/c1b55702-17fd-11eb-befb-8864259bd2d8_story.html
Post by: wetwillie on October 27, 2020, 12:06:45 PM
Post by: mocat on October 27, 2020, 01:43:20 PM
- rick steves
https://twitter.com/RickSteves/status/1321149906829086722?s=20
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Post by: Institutional Control on October 27, 2020, 02:54:46 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 27, 2020, 02:56:47 PM
Post by: MadCat on October 27, 2020, 03:04:12 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 27, 2020, 03:06:52 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 27, 2020, 03:18:07 PM
I think it's more that they just don't have enough money to continue running ads in all 5 states, and they are doing better in Florida than they are in the other 4.
Per 538, that would be accurate, Florida is still leaning towards Biden, but much closer to trump compared Penn, Wisky, and Michigan.
Post by: Institutional Control on October 27, 2020, 04:34:14 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on October 27, 2020, 05:30:33 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 27, 2020, 05:39:00 PM
Taking texas will kill texags
They had a thread earlier asking by what margin would Biden have to win Texas by for people to not think he cheated.
Post by: cfbandyman on October 27, 2020, 06:23:54 PM
Taking texas will kill texags
They had a thread earlier asking by what margin would Biden have to win Texas by for people to not think he cheated.
Gotta lay the groundwork now
FWIW, I will be super shocked if Biden wins TX, more shocked than 2016 ever was. I also think Biden has a chance though. It will however not be super far in the future the dems win TX though. Houston, DFW, Austin, San Antonio, El Paso, etc are all shading pretty blue.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 27, 2020, 07:08:37 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 28, 2020, 07:20:48 AM
Lol he buses them there but not back?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 28, 2020, 07:25:02 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on October 28, 2020, 07:33:55 AM
Omaha Police Scanner thread is a hoot.
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2020, 08:00:09 AM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 28, 2020, 08:08:13 AM
:lol:
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 28, 2020, 08:40:59 AM
So the incumbent president, a republican, has to stop in the middle of the country, to a red state, in the last week of a campaign? Going well.
Farewell tour.
Post by: IPA4Me on October 28, 2020, 08:41:12 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 28, 2020, 08:42:43 AM
https://twitter.com/jeff_paul/status/1321331610344656897?s=21
This one probably belongs in the thread about the good things Trump has done.
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2020, 08:53:37 AM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 28, 2020, 09:00:46 AM
Doesn't NE have like 1.5 electoral votes?
They only have 1 that he's not going to win, anyway. And he just left that vote out in the cold.
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2020, 09:13:12 AM
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Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2020, 09:18:37 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 28, 2020, 09:19:16 AM
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1321270266337644545?s=20
EIEIO
Post by: Phil Titola on October 28, 2020, 09:26:09 AM
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/523076-democrats-see-signs-of-hidden-biden-voters-flipping-from-gop
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Post by: Institutional Control on October 28, 2020, 12:06:48 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 28, 2020, 01:40:32 PM
Doesn't NE have like 1.5 electoral votes?
They only have 1 that he's not going to win, anyway. And he just left that vote out in the cold.
This also took place a mile away, as the crow flies, from Cedar Rapids, Iowa and it's 70,000 citizens. There are at least 100,000 Iowa voters (although largely devoted republican) 90 minutes or less away from that rally. I'd bet half of the olds who were left out in the cold were Iowans.
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Post by: Phil Titola on October 28, 2020, 01:56:34 PM
Yeah, I can hit a golf ball into Iowa from OMA. Good point.
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Post by: passranch on October 28, 2020, 01:56:59 PM
Doesn't NE have like 1.5 electoral votes?
They only have 1 that he's not going to win, anyway. And he just left that vote out in the cold.
This also took place a mile away, as the crow flies, from Cedar Rapids, Iowa and it's 70,000 citizens. There are at least 100,000 Iowa voters (although largely devoted republican) 90 minutes or less away from that rally. I'd bet half of the olds who were left out in the cold were Iowans.
Uhh...you mean Council Bluffs maybe?
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Cedar+Rapids,+IA/Omaha,+NE/@41.7089187,-96.0302629,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x87e45f7aa02f4251:0x55ee60432ce6ddc0!2m2!1d-91.6656232!2d41.9778795!1m5!1m1!1s0x87938dc8b50cfced:0x46424d4fae37b604!2m2!1d-95.9345034!2d41.2565369!3e0
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2020, 02:17:18 PM
Yeah, I can hit a golf ball into Iowa from OMA. Good point.
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:dubious:
I irl can. probably a 7 iron actually. and you want your mind blown? the easiest shot would be straight to the west from the parking garage.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on October 28, 2020, 02:18:08 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2020, 02:23:11 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 28, 2020, 02:23:32 PM
Doesn't NE have like 1.5 electoral votes?
They only have 1 that he's not going to win, anyway. And he just left that vote out in the cold.
This also took place a mile away, as the crow flies, from Cedar Rapids, Iowa and it's 70,000 citizens. There are at least 100,000 Iowa voters (although largely devoted republican) 90 minutes or less away from that rally. I'd bet half of the olds who were left out in the cold were Iowans.
Uhh...you mean Council Bluffs maybe?
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Cedar+Rapids,+IA/Omaha,+NE/@41.7089187,-96.0302629,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x87e45f7aa02f4251:0x55ee60432ce6ddc0!2m2!1d-91.6656232!2d41.9778795!1m5!1m1!1s0x87938dc8b50cfced:0x46424d4fae37b604!2m2!1d-95.9345034!2d41.2565369!3e0
lol yes Council Bluffs, I interchange those two a lot which is very problematic for my job
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 28, 2020, 02:24:54 PM
a positive for those old MAGAs stuck at the airport for the rally is that they could stop to warm up at the Spearmint Rhino on their walk back to their cars.
Yeah, the ones who didn't have to go to the hospital could do that, anyway.
Post by: Phil Titola on October 28, 2020, 02:26:52 PM
Yeah, I can hit a golf ball into Iowa from OMA. Good point.
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I irl can. probably a 7 iron actually. and you want your mind blown? the easiest shot would be straight to the west from the parking garage.
I IRL didn't know Iowa looped back west of OMA but then I used google measuring tool at 300 yard 7-iron my man? :dubious: :dubious:
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2020, 02:28:13 PM
Yeah, I can hit a golf ball into Iowa from OMA. Good point.
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I irl can. probably a 7 iron actually. and you want your mind blown? the easiest shot would be straight to the west from the parking garage.
I IRL didn't know Iowa looped back west of OMA but then I used google measuring tool at 300 yard 7-iron my man? :dubious: :dubious:
yeah, I hit bombs. also I'd be hitting from 6th floor of the garage.
Post by: Phil Titola on October 28, 2020, 02:41:43 PM
Yeah, I can hit a golf ball into Iowa from OMA. Good point.
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I irl can. probably a 7 iron actually. and you want your mind blown? the easiest shot would be straight to the west from the parking garage.
I IRL didn't know Iowa looped back west of OMA but then I used google measuring tool at 300 yard 7-iron my man? :dubious: :dubious:
yeah, I hit bombs. also I'd be hitting from 6th floor of the garage.
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Post by: passranch on October 28, 2020, 02:43:03 PM
Yeah, I can hit a golf ball into Iowa from OMA. Good point.
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I irl can. probably a 7 iron actually. and you want your mind blown? the easiest shot would be straight to the west from the parking garage.
I IRL didn't know Iowa looped back west of OMA but then I used google measuring tool at 300 yard 7-iron my man? :dubious: :dubious:
yeah, I hit bombs. also I'd be hitting from 6th floor of the garage.
A relatively pedestrian hook from the driving range at Shoreline GC in Carter Lake could land in Nebraska if you were into that kind of thing.
https://goo.gl/maps/Eu9GX1M74SErotxQ6
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 28, 2020, 02:49:57 PM
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Post by: bucket on October 28, 2020, 03:42:33 PM
Hmm...
Post by: MadCat on October 28, 2020, 05:03:42 PM
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1321554460221558785
Hmm...
Perfect setup for a Trump Saves Christmas Cartoon Special
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2020, 10:40:57 PM
https://twitter.com/fivethirtyeight/status/1321656148198592515
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Post by: steve dave on October 29, 2020, 09:26:13 AM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1321809927942397954
Post by: steve dave on October 29, 2020, 09:39:07 AM
https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1321820273352548352
Post by: cfbandyman on October 29, 2020, 09:44:01 AM
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/georgia/
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 29, 2020, 10:08:29 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 29, 2020, 10:10:54 AM
Don't pollsters typically try to correct after they miss the results of an election like they did in 2016? It seems just as likely to me that they overcorrected and polling error will favor Biden.Yeah, I think that’s sys’s take on it
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Post by: Institutional Control on October 29, 2020, 10:19:15 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2020, 10:40:06 AM
holy crap, they think they're losing GA
https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1321820273352548352
Georgia being a toss up is no surprise. The Republicans haven't been able to get more than 50% in recent statewide elections, even with widespread voter disenfranchisement. Brian Kemp stealing the 2018 election finally motivated the dems to do things to mitigate roll purges and poll sites in urban areas out of ratio with the rest of the state.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/26/georgia-voter-suppression-black-turnout-432405
Post by: IPA4Me on October 29, 2020, 11:19:06 AM
https://twitter.com/KMCRadio/status/1321529326202949635
Post by: steve dave on October 29, 2020, 11:21:22 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 29, 2020, 11:25:07 AM
The pop vote, lolz.
Post by: waks on October 29, 2020, 11:34:04 AM
Post by: MadCat on October 29, 2020, 11:35:41 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 29, 2020, 11:36:20 AM
Hasn't it been like 100 years since Minnesota voted GOP in a presidential election?
As with most states who haven't done that in a while, Nixon is your answer
Post by: cfbandyman on October 29, 2020, 11:37:01 AM
Post by: chum1 on October 29, 2020, 04:16:07 PM
https://twitter.com/ElectProject/status/1321905674821996544
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Post by: steve dave on October 29, 2020, 06:51:04 PM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1321942389045497861
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2020, 08:07:47 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 29, 2020, 08:09:47 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 29, 2020, 08:22:28 PM
lmao
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1321942389045497861
holy crap tucker's damning, lost in the mail, then found, evidence was this fake thing :lol:
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1321973721461071872
Post by: Cire on October 29, 2020, 08:37:47 PM
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Post by: steve dave on October 29, 2020, 08:50:30 PM
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1321988620207751169
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2020, 08:51:33 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 29, 2020, 09:18:52 PM
A lot of words about polling and the shy trump voter (low propensity or social desirability bias).
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/29/2020-polls-trump-biden-prediction-accurate-2016-433619
https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1321994736455032837
Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2020, 10:26:59 PM
damn, trump won by 9 points last time. MIR may actually have a vote worth a crap.
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1321988620207751169
He's behind here.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 29, 2020, 10:28:54 PM
Post by: sys on October 29, 2020, 10:34:19 PM
https://twitter.com/LinaHidalgoTX/status/1322013891929526273
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 29, 2020, 10:45:03 PM
damn, trump won by 9 points last time. MIR may actually have a vote worth a crap.
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1321988620207751169
He's behind here.
MIR do you think this has much of an impact? Or no due to everyone who votes early this year?
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/29/928315049/polling-places-are-closing-due-to-covid-19-it-could-tip-races-in-1-swing-state (https://www.npr.org/2020/10/29/928315049/polling-places-are-closing-due-to-covid-19-it-could-tip-races-in-1-swing-state)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 30, 2020, 12:10:28 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 30, 2020, 12:42:54 AM
damn, trump won by 9 points last time. MIR may actually have a vote worth a crap.
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1321988620207751169
He's behind here.
MIR do you think this has much of an impact? Or no due to everyone who votes early this year?
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/29/928315049/polling-places-are-closing-due-to-covid-19-it-could-tip-races-in-1-swing-state (https://www.npr.org/2020/10/29/928315049/polling-places-are-closing-due-to-covid-19-it-could-tip-races-in-1-swing-state)
Yes, it will have an impact. So all four places mentioned in that article, Council Bluffs, Fort Dodge, Linn County, and Waterloo (Blackhawk County) are places that lean blue. The biggest hit will be in Linn County, it's the second most populous county in the state and he got trounced there in '16. Those other three places are small enough that they will be offset by what's probably going to be a lower turnout rurally, where like everywhere else in the plains and midwest, are filled with older people less likely to mail in ballots and are getting hammered by this pandemic.
His issue in Iowa will be in the Des Moines suburbs, which are growing very fast and the demographics are changing. Unlike in the rust belt states, I don't think he turned a lot of Obama voters, a lot of those went third party, which there were three very strong third party candidates four years ago, not so much this year. The third party vote in '16 was 8% in '12 it's less than 2%. The libertarians, independent candidate, and the greens all ran ads here in '16, none this year, I can't even find polling data for the third parties this year which leads me to believe that percentage will be back to 2% or less.
Another giant advantage he had in '16 that will be eliminated will be the turnout. The Republican turnout in '16 was higher than it had been in generations, it was 20% higher than it was in '12. However, democratic and independent turnout was way down, I believe it was 5 percent for the dems and 7 percent for independents.
Final thing to note is that polling in Iowa has historically been very accurate, including in '16. Trump did over perform his polling but only slightly. The polling numbers have been consistent here, the only reason why the nerds are calling this state a toss up is because if the polling is right, it will indicate a 15 point flip which for what they do seems almost improbable, but this isn't Georgia or Texas, it's a purpleish to light blue state. Biden will win by 5 points, book it.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 30, 2020, 12:49:53 AM
The early vote turnout is so high that I think difficulty voting on election day probably actually favors the democrats. You have to think that most of those who haven't already voted are likely voting Trump.
No, I don't think so. As of last week the Secretary of State expected to get 750,000 to 800,000 ballots early that will account for 50% of the total vote. As I outlined in the long post, those areas discussed in the article, especially Cedar Rapids, are reliably democratic.
Post by: Cire on October 30, 2020, 06:40:10 AM
Pennsylvania is a crap show for the Mail ins which is overwhelmingly dem
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/28/928890290/supreme-court-allows-ballot-extensions-in-pennsylvania-north-carolina-for-now
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Post by: 8manpick on October 30, 2020, 07:57:34 AM
I assume that the number of people attending a Trump (or Biden) rally at the end of October who are undecided or maybe not voting is close to zero. Am I wrong?
Post by: star seed 7 on October 30, 2020, 08:32:36 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on October 30, 2020, 08:44:11 AM
Rallies and TV ads seem so wasteful
Post by: 8manpick on October 30, 2020, 09:31:19 AM
You can register to vote within a week of the election?I’m going to register to vote and vote this afternoon!
Rallies and TV ads seem so wasteful
Post by: MadCat on October 30, 2020, 09:35:34 AM
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2020, 09:49:28 AM
You can register to vote within a week of the election?
California has election day registration. I'm guessing lots of other states who think it's a good thing for people vote do too.
Post by: wetwillie on October 30, 2020, 10:09:34 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on October 30, 2020, 11:14:08 AM
You can register to vote within a week of the election?
California has election day registration. I'm guessing lots of other states who think it's a good thing for people vote do too.
explains Missouri laws
Post by: star seed 7 on October 30, 2020, 11:37:16 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on October 30, 2020, 11:43:05 AM
Missouri is NOT election friendly at all, it's so backwards
You have a notary stamp your absentee ballot in MO.
Post by: Phil Titola on October 30, 2020, 11:57:29 AM
The in person absentee was a nice addition.Missouri is NOT election friendly at all, it's so backwards
You have a notary stamp your absentee ballot in MO.
Post by: cfbandyman on October 30, 2020, 12:27:06 PM
Thought this was p good.QuoteOne other funny thing about this election is that because of Drumpf’s Electoral College advantage, there is not much middle ground between a Biden landslide and an extremely competitive, down-to-the-wire photo finish.
If Drumpf beats his polls by 2 points, that’s a toss-up. If Biden beats his polls by 2 points, then it’s Obama 2008, which people consider a landslide. So the Electoral College edge makes a big difference and is why there’s been this very bifurcated, binary kind of world where we seem to oscillate between, “oh, my gosh, 2016 again” and “Drumpf is Herbert Hoover.”
https://www.vox.com/21538214/nate-silver-538-2020-forecast-2016-trump-biden-election-podcast
Honestly, it's fairly true. In the EV thread I know Chings said he had a hard time seeing Biden getting 300+, IMO though I have a hard time seeing trump getting 300+, he may very well win, but if he does it'll be close, conversely that state (PA) could flip to Biden and it also be a photo finish.
However, if things are truly in Biden's camp, it could swing it's way all the way to Tejas.
Post by: Trim on October 30, 2020, 03:32:50 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on October 30, 2020, 04:18:50 PM
https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1322211285606502404
Post by: cfbandyman on October 30, 2020, 04:21:46 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 30, 2020, 04:36:03 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 30, 2020, 07:51:25 PM
More MAGA predictolmao
https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1322211285606502404
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Post by: chum1 on October 30, 2020, 07:53:29 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 30, 2020, 07:55:44 PM
I'm going to check back with some of these twitter accounts if Trump loses.
Screenshot the tweets now because they may be hard to find after he loses.
Post by: sys on October 30, 2020, 10:09:39 PM
https://twitter.com/zachdespart/status/1322369069895585797
Post by: sys on October 30, 2020, 10:12:28 PM
https://twitter.com/WinWithJMC/status/1322369658759110656
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 30, 2020, 11:28:29 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2020, 10:16:25 AM
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Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2020, 03:57:25 PM
Bloodbath Tuesday.
My butt is still puckered
Post by: CHONGS on October 31, 2020, 03:59:49 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on October 31, 2020, 04:18:17 PM
It should beNo it shouldn't.
Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2020, 04:21:10 PM
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 31, 2020, 04:46:41 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on October 31, 2020, 04:52:48 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2020, 04:54:46 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on October 31, 2020, 05:18:18 PM
If there is one thing that has become evident with this administration is they are all talk. Trump will bark loud and do nothing of note. Good riddance.
Trump, yes. His brain dead, small dicked, gun toting, freedom loving "patriot" followers...nothing is out of the realm of possibility for them.
Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2020, 05:26:22 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on October 31, 2020, 05:37:06 PM
Good point.If there is one thing that has become evident with this administration is they are all talk. Trump will bark loud and do nothing of note. Good riddance.
Trump, yes. His brain dead, small dicked, gun toting, freedom loving "patriot" followers...nothing is out of the realm of possibility for them.
Post by: sys on October 31, 2020, 05:38:59 PM
https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1322624350151954434
the final nyt polls aren't being released until tomorrow am. these poll results are imposters.
Post by: bucket on October 31, 2020, 05:46:56 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 31, 2020, 06:29:51 PM
https://twitter.com/francisbrennan/status/1322613557448609792?s=21
Post by: sys on October 31, 2020, 06:35:29 PM
https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1322682495272472581
Post by: sys on October 31, 2020, 07:27:18 PM
https://twitter.com/DJJudd/status/1322690607039598593
Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2020, 07:29:02 PM
Post by: bucket on October 31, 2020, 07:37:08 PM
Guys what if he wins?
A tweet I read today made me think of four more years.
Post by: kim carnes on October 31, 2020, 07:46:37 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2020, 10:24:05 PM
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Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2020, 11:07:44 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 31, 2020, 11:27:11 PM
What are you hashtag laughing at dax? You think he won’t try to steal it? You know him better than any of us, that would make me feel very good of so. Irl would like your take. TY.SteveDave the BidenVoter, your movement is attempting to scare people into not voting for Trump by openly advertising their intent to destroy Washington DC until Trump leaves.
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Yet you keep talking about how Trump is going to “steal” the election.
Dem local and state politicians keep conjuring new and unusual voting methodologies which lower the threshold of accountability substantially. Then have a total meltdown if it’s even questioned.
Even more hilarious is knowing the Lincoln Project and their related minions are literally gaming challenging a Trump electoral college win at every possible turn. Which in turn will seek to nullify the process, the results and people’s vote.
But you keep taking about Trump stealing the election.
LOL hilarious.
Post by: IPA4Me on November 01, 2020, 06:14:30 AM
https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1322553981340561409
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Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2020, 06:37:45 AM
https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1322624350151954434
the final nyt polls aren't being released until tomorrow am. these poll results are imposters.
Yes, that was fake news. TY
https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1322877909187612672
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Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2020, 10:00:17 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/264015329108316160
Post by: sys on November 01, 2020, 10:03:26 AM
https://twitter.com/WinWithJMC/status/1322895897685053441
Post by: star seed 7 on November 01, 2020, 11:15:19 AM
Post by: CHONGS on November 01, 2020, 11:24:10 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2020, 11:49:44 AM
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1322952767279943680
Post by: sys on November 01, 2020, 12:22:51 PM
https://roadtolarissa.com/forecast-correlation/
i agree with that. i think 538's approach is superior in general, and is much more robust and defensible, but the economist more accurately modeled the 2020 race specifically.
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 01, 2020, 12:56:51 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 01, 2020, 02:21:46 PM
Post by: sys on November 01, 2020, 02:43:26 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 01, 2020, 03:05:06 PM
Voted early in person today and it was great. Walked to my regular polling place on a Sunday. I moved this year and had something weird happen with my mail in ballot but it was super easy to get it fixed on site. Were probably ten poll workers and just one other voter while I was there. Highly recommended!
This smells like a Trump vote to me
Post by: 8manpick on November 01, 2020, 07:30:52 PM
Saw the lines around the block at the 2 nearest polling places on Friday afternoon and booed out. Showed up at 8:30 AM Saturday (9am open) and was like 25th in line. Took about 10 minutes to get through registering, and done voting by 9:35, so not bad.You can register to vote within a week of the election?I’m going to register to vote and vote this afternoon!
Rallies and TV ads seem so wasteful
Post by: catastrophe on November 01, 2020, 11:46:52 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 01, 2020, 11:51:52 PM
8 years ago today
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/264015329108316160
https://twitter.com/Tilly33368/status/264016184620482560
Post by: sys on November 02, 2020, 12:50:59 AM
https://twitter.com/JulieNBCNews/status/1323140942623313920
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 08:37:33 AM
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/10/trump-latinos-biden-2020/616901/
Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2020, 09:19:34 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 02, 2020, 09:22:10 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 02, 2020, 09:36:21 AM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1323051961793581059Could be a very strange lame duck period...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 09:52:35 AM
Because the answer is . . .it's just a bunch a CGAF smoes handling them just like every other year. Tossing them in the backs of vans and probably forgetting where they put a bunch of them.
Sad
Post by: Institutional Control on November 02, 2020, 09:58:50 AM
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Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2020, 10:01:10 AM
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A bunch of minimum wage Board of Election van drivers going out to smoke it over and forgetting where they put a stack of ballots.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2020, 10:06:43 AM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1323051961793581059Could be a very strange lame duck period...
By strange you mean there will be no transition and it will be the worst peacetime two months in the history of the country, then yeah, strange.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2020, 10:07:29 AM
the man simply does not believe his supporters deserve warmth or transportation and who am i to disagree.
https://twitter.com/JulieNBCNews/status/1323140942623313920
https://twitter.com/djhomelessmike/status/1323155716782219265
Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2020, 10:24:41 AM
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Post by: Institutional Control on November 02, 2020, 11:21:58 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 02, 2020, 11:23:23 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 11:42:28 AM
(One example) was the City of Wilmington, DE paid for the $100K they spent on police overtime for the DNC virtual convention? Last I saw they were in "negotiations" with the DNC regarding that bill.
Big thanks to Duke Energy for bailing out CLT after the 2012 DNC convention. To the tune of $10 million.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 11:49:43 AM
The Deadbeat DNC is a common theme heard in the convention and hospitality industry.
As a member of said industry with a lot of work in major markets and areas that have hosted events, no it isn't.
Post by: Trim on November 02, 2020, 11:52:49 AM
The Deadbeat DNC is a common theme heard in the convention and hospitality industry.
As a member of said industry with a lot of work in major markets and areas that have hosted events, no it isn't.
Okay, ChiCat. :rolleyes:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 11:55:48 AM
The Deadbeat DNC is a common theme heard in the convention and hospitality industry.
As a member of said industry with a lot of work in major markets and areas that have hosted events, no it isn't.
The City of Charlotte had to get $10 million dollars from Duke Energy after the 2012 DNC convention there, that still didn't cover the full $12 million bill CLT was stuck with.
That's just one example.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2020, 12:22:13 PM
The Deadbeat DNC is a common theme heard in the convention and hospitality industry.
As a member of said industry with a lot of work in major markets and areas that have hosted events, no it isn't.
Lying, racist sack of crap, continuing to show he's a lying, racist sack of crap isn't exactly man bites dog.
Post by: Trim on November 02, 2020, 12:25:36 PM
The Deadbeat DNC is a common theme heard in the convention and hospitality industry.
As a member of said industry with a lot of work in major markets and areas that have hosted events, no it isn't.
Lying, racist sack of crap, continuing to show he's a lying, racist sack of crap isn't exactly man bites dog.
Nothing is confirmed. So anyone saying it’s made up doesn’t have the first rough ridin' clue if it is or not.
Post by: Cire on November 02, 2020, 12:30:35 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 02, 2020, 12:49:48 PM
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Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 12:50:47 PM
The Deadbeat DNC is a common theme heard in the convention and hospitality industry.
As a member of said industry with a lot of work in major markets and areas that have hosted events, no it isn't.
The City of Charlotte had to get $10 million dollars from Duke Energy after the 2012 DNC convention there, that still didn't cover the full $12 million bill CLT was stuck with.
That's just one example.
Still, despite doing quite a bit of work in that specific market in hospitality, I have literally never heard anybody use the name you claim is commonplace.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2020, 12:54:37 PM
Middle aged white guys have spoken.
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https://twitter.com/notdrfauci/status/1323322095909052417
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 12:58:56 PM
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-xpm-2013-feb-13-la-pn-duke-energy-democratic-convention-20130213-story.html
https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/queen_city_agenda/2012/10/details-dnc-vendor-debts.html
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2020/08/24/democratic-national-convention-cost-wilmington-over-100-k-police/3430455001/
In a Facebook Live with a reporter during the convention last week, he called the police presence a "budget-buster" for the city and said the city is paying for the costs so far.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-12/harris-s-presidential-campaign-owes-1-1-million-to-vendors
No doubt total dipshits like MIR didn't have the first clue this was even going on.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 01:07:53 PM
On top of that, we've had this discussion. I posted articles on how Trump wasn't reimbursing cities for costs related to his rallies and you replied he should also pay his bills. Now you're focusing 100% on Dem's not paying bills and giving Trump a pass while making up complete lies about the industry's perception.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 01:16:02 PM
Nobody is disagreeing with any of that. I am disagreeing with you, clearly tuned into the hospitality industry, thinking that people are going around calling them the deadbeat DNC.
On top of that, we've had this discussion. I posted articles on how Trump wasn't reimbursing cities for costs related to his rallies and you replied he should also pay his bills. Now you're focusing 100% on Dem's not paying bills and giving Trump a pass while making up complete lies about the industry's perception.
I work right next to an entire group who sells into the hospitality industry all day, every day. There's an entire regimen of articles about the wariness of taking on a DNC convention because of Charlotte in 2012. I'm not all disputing that Trump has bills, it took Hillary years to supposedly pay off her bills from her first run (probably with either Ukrainian or Russian cash, if not both).
In typical BidenVoter fashion you're focusing on some busses (because the crowds were so large) while the DNC candidacy ranks are filled with story after story regarding unpaid bills (not to mention the DNC going years without paying their DC taxes).
Oh, and of course the greater hospitality sector is going to covet something like a large DNC presence, but a bar or hotel isn't paying for the police force overtime or the vendors at the convention itself. In which the DNC has left cities and their convention bureau's holding the bag to the tune of tens of millions of dollars.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 01:23:59 PM
In which the DNC has left cities and their convention bureau's holding the bag to the tune of tens of millions of dollars.
If this was the message you were trying to send, you wouldn't have posted articles about not paying for security (which we agree that Trump also hasn't done).
Regardless, your statement about the hospitality industry calling it the "Deadbeat DNC" is completely ignored by you as it is completely fabricated. Unsurprising as most industries don't throw around stupid rough ridin' nicknames because, unlike Republicans, they realize it's childish and unprofessional.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 02, 2020, 01:24:39 PM
Post by: Trim on November 02, 2020, 01:28:14 PM
In which the DNC has left cities and their convention bureau's holding the bag to the tune of tens of millions of dollars.
If this was the message you were trying to send, you wouldn't have posted articles about not paying for security (which we agree that Trump also hasn't done).
Regardless, your statement about the hospitality industry calling it the "Deadbeat DNC" is completely ignored by you as it is completely fabricated. Unsurprising as most industries don't throw around stupid rough ridin' nicknames because, unlike Republicans, they realize it's childish and unprofessional.
As a member of the Section 17 and OOD industries in the past, I take offense to the premise that it's inappropriate to be calling squawks deadbeats.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 01:31:14 PM
In which the DNC has left cities and their convention bureau's holding the bag to the tune of tens of millions of dollars.
If this was the message you were trying to send, you wouldn't have posted articles about not paying for security (which we agree that Trump also hasn't done).
Regardless, your statement about the hospitality industry calling it the "Deadbeat DNC" is completely ignored by you as it is completely fabricated. Unsurprising as most industries don't throw around stupid rough ridin' nicknames because, unlike Republicans, they realize it's childish and unprofessional.
Pfft, you are living in some kind of business bubble world if you don't think industry insiders in every line of business known to human kind don't come up with nicknames for certain kinds of customers. Good grief.
I didn't just post articles about not paying for security. I also posted articles about a DNC that left an American city holding a $12 million dollar unpaid bill, that ultimately a corporation helped pay based on the belief that it was a loan, only to see the DNC not pay the loan and the corporation having to write their loan for $10 million off. Next thing you know you'll tell me convention and visitors bureaus are not in the hospitality industry.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 01:37:21 PM
I guess I wouldn't be surprised if your business refers to customers in insulting terms so much it is considered commonplace. It also probably explains your Trump support in spite of the busses as you see no problem with someone showing disdain for the very people that support them.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 01:43:17 PM
Real businesses don't use insults as commonplace to refer to a customer. It's really rough ridin' dumb.
I guess I wouldn't be surprised if your business refers to customers in insulting terms so much it is considered commonplace. It also probably explains your Trump support in spite of the busses as you see no problem with someone showing disdain for the very people that support them.
Um-hmm, when customers don't pay their bills to the tune of hundreds of thousands to million upon millions of dollars, they get called all kinds of names. In the case of the DNC, we are talking about millions upon millions of dollars in unpaid bills over the last ten years.
Now you're going to tell me that your receivables/collections entities have all kinds of friendly and cheery nicknames for customers who don't pay their bills.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 01:48:09 PM
Strangely, totally making up statements while having absolutely no clue is a commonplace reference to Trump. Trust me on that. Just as many people in my industry are saying it.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 01:58:26 PM
Again, I am in the hospitality industry and in markets where that nickname is not commonplace. After googling it, the only place it seems to be commonplace is right-wing news sites. You totally made up that statement while having absolutely no clue.
Strangely, totally making up statements while having absolutely no clue is a commonplace reference to Trump. Trust me on that. Just as many people in my industry are saying it.
It's good to know that you feel like you speak for the entirety of the hospitality industry. You also appear to be utterly incapable of differentiating between how companies view and treat good paying customers as opposed to how they think and feel about customers who don't pay their bills. Particularly customers who don't pay their bills to the tune of high six and seven figures.
I'm sure Arne Sorenson or Chris Nassetta wouldn't have the first ill thought towards a customer who stiffed their respective corporations on a $12 million dollar bill.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 02:00:09 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 02:06:18 PM
I don't have to speak for the whole industry. This term is commonplace.
Pffft. You can't even differentiate between good paying customers and those who stiff companies and cities on the bill.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 02:07:03 PM
if I were a trumper I would super want to avoid criticizing the other guys for being a deadbeat.
Some people are slow and have trouble following along and differentiating between certain nuanced things.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 02:11:32 PM
I don't have to speak for the whole industry. This term is commonplace.
Pffft. You can't even differentiate between good paying customers and those who stiff companies and cities on the bill.
Even if true, it doesn't make your story and nickname any less made up.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 02:13:06 PM
I don't have to speak for the whole industry. This term is commonplace.
Pffft. You can't even differentiate between good paying customers and those who stiff companies and cities on the bill.
Even if true, it doesn't make your story and nickname any less made up.
Please tell me again how you're not trying to speak for an entire industry. :lol: :lol: In terms of the DNC not paying it's bills, 1000% not made up.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 02:17:14 PM
I don't have to speak for the whole industry. This term is commonplace.
Pffft. You can't even differentiate between good paying customers and those who stiff companies and cities on the bill.
Even if true, it doesn't make your story and nickname any less made up.
Please tell me again how you're not trying to speak for an entire industry. :lol: :lol: In terms of the DNC not paying it's bills, 1000% not made up.
Not saying they paid their bills. I am saying your "commonplace" term is totally and completely fabricated.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 02, 2020, 02:18:38 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 02:22:18 PM
I don't have to speak for the whole industry. This term is commonplace.
Pffft. You can't even differentiate between good paying customers and those who stiff companies and cities on the bill.
Even if true, it doesn't make your story and nickname any less made up.
Please tell me again how you're not trying to speak for an entire industry. :lol: :lol: In terms of the DNC not paying it's bills, 1000% not made up.
Not saying they paid their bills. I am saying your "commonplace" term is totally and completely fabricated.
You couldn't possibly know that. But I do find it amusing that you think you do.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 02:22:59 PM
He knows sales people who do sales to people like you tho
BidenVoter.7 always manages to chime in like little brother.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 02:27:25 PM
I don't have to speak for the whole industry. This term is commonplace.
Pffft. You can't even differentiate between good paying customers and those who stiff companies and cities on the bill.
Even if true, it doesn't make your story and nickname any less made up.
Please tell me again how you're not trying to speak for an entire industry. :lol: :lol: In terms of the DNC not paying it's bills, 1000% not made up.
Not saying they paid their bills. I am saying your "commonplace" term is totally and completely fabricated.
You couldn't possibly know that. But I do find it amusing that you think you do.
I appreciate how you think I couldn't possibly know but that you, some dude who read a right wing blog, can.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 02:29:40 PM
I don't have to speak for the whole industry. This term is commonplace.
Pffft. You can't even differentiate between good paying customers and those who stiff companies and cities on the bill.
Even if true, it doesn't make your story and nickname any less made up.
Please tell me again how you're not trying to speak for an entire industry. :lol: :lol: In terms of the DNC not paying it's bills, 1000% not made up.
Not saying they paid their bills. I am saying your "commonplace" term is totally and completely fabricated.
You couldn't possibly know that. But I do find it amusing that you think you do.
I appreciate how you think I couldn't possibly know but that you, some dude who read a right wing blog, can.
Material fact of being a dead beat customer (repeatedly) backs me up every step of the way.
Post by: Brock Landers on November 02, 2020, 02:39:48 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 02:42:00 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 02:43:03 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on November 02, 2020, 02:44:34 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 02:48:22 PM
While you're going through invoices, let me know how many $3 glasses of water you see.
Sure thing. I'll do that after we throw the party to celebrate getting stiffed on that multi-million dollar bill.
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 02, 2020, 02:48:51 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 02:49:44 PM
I am always in a state of total meltdown and rage
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 02:54:16 PM
While you're going through invoices, let me know how many $3 glasses of water you see.
Sure thing. I'll do that after we throw the party to celebrate getting stiffed on that multi-million dollar bill.
After more research, Trump is for defunding the police:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-tab-maga-rallies-jumps-18-million-14-cities-say-president-hasnt-paid-police-1498410
Lots of police are calling him "Default Donny"
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 02:59:12 PM
While you're going through invoices, let me know how many $3 glasses of water you see.
Sure thing. I'll do that after we throw the party to celebrate getting stiffed on that multi-million dollar bill.
After more research, Trump is for defunding the police:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-tab-maga-rallies-jumps-18-million-14-cities-say-president-hasnt-paid-police-1498410
Lots of police are calling him "Default Donny"
That wouldn't surprise me in the least. Although for a moment I did have to fight off channeling my inner ChiCat and the strong desire to speak for all of law enforcement.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 03:03:19 PM
While you're going through invoices, let me know how many $3 glasses of water you see.
Sure thing. I'll do that after we throw the party to celebrate getting stiffed on that multi-million dollar bill.
After more research, Trump is for defunding the police:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-tab-maga-rallies-jumps-18-million-14-cities-say-president-hasnt-paid-police-1498410
Lots of police are calling him "Default Donny"
That wouldn't surprise me in the least. Although for a moment I did have to fight off channeling my inner ChiCat and the strong desire to speak for all of law enforcement.
There's outstanding invoices which makes it true!
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 02, 2020, 03:04:50 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 02, 2020, 03:05:11 PM
so when do we think we'll actually find out which one of these dipshits won?
Tomorrow around 10 pm.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 02, 2020, 03:07:10 PM
From a purely entertainment standpoint, a Trump win would be most delectable.
A Biden win would also provide plenty of entertainment....both the good kind and the bad kind.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 02, 2020, 03:07:38 PM
don't see that happening but that'd be niceso when do we think we'll actually find out which one of these dipshits won?
Tomorrow around 10 pm.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 03:14:03 PM
While you're going through invoices, let me know how many $3 glasses of water you see.
Sure thing. I'll do that after we throw the party to celebrate getting stiffed on that multi-million dollar bill.
After more research, Trump is for defunding the police:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-tab-maga-rallies-jumps-18-million-14-cities-say-president-hasnt-paid-police-1498410
Lots of police are calling him "Default Donny"
That wouldn't surprise me in the least. Although for a moment I did have to fight off channeling my inner ChiCat and the strong desire to speak for all of law enforcement.
There's outstanding invoices which makes it true!
I'm sure there's some other nicknames as well, but I'm sure none of those highly professional law enforcement and finance officers ever uttered a disparaging word about one of their non paying patrons. It's just not done in that industry, they're not dumb. . . opps, I'm ChiCat'ing.
Post by: Trim on November 02, 2020, 03:15:24 PM
so when do we think we'll actually find out which one of these dipshits won?
I @‘d a hospitality industry magazine asking about the deadbeat dnc term about 30 minutes ago.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 03:18:13 PM
If there's one industry that's rock solid these day, that's the verticalized publishing industry.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 02, 2020, 03:20:09 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 03:22:54 PM
How can anyone verify what you posted isn't completely made up crap as we have seen from you in the past?
So all the links I posted were fake, Slow Dug?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 02, 2020, 03:31:36 PM
How can anyone verify what you posted isn't completely made up crap as we have seen from you in the past?
So all the links I posted were fake, Slow Dug?
crap, did you post one that confirmed that nickname was being used by the service industry? I missed it, been on conference calls all day. Paste it for me ty
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 03:33:28 PM
How can anyone verify what you posted isn't completely made up crap as we have seen from you in the past?
So all the links I posted were fake, Slow Dug?
crap, did you post one that confirmed that nickname was being used by the service industry? I missed it, been on conference calls all day. Paste it for me ty
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 02, 2020, 03:42:17 PM
How can anyone verify what you posted isn't completely made up crap as we have seen from you in the past?
So all the links I posted were fake, Slow Dug?
crap, did you post one that confirmed that nickname was being used by the service industry? I missed it, been on conference calls all day. Paste it for me ty
:lol: :lol: :lol:
so you won't paste the link?
Post by: Phil Titola on November 02, 2020, 03:42:27 PM
I wonder what Dax is really IRL expert on? He acts #onhere that it's basically everything.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 03:50:40 PM
It's fun to watch Dax act like he is IRL expert on something, then a IRL expert comes in and calls his bluff, then he flounders for pages.
I wonder what Dax is really IRL expert on? He acts #onhere that it's basically everything.
It's fun see Phil come in here and once again make an idiotic post in regards to something that I neither implied nor said, in this case I've not implied nor said I'm an expert on the hospitality industry. It's also fun to read people claim that just because they work in a particular industry they know the entire mindset of every person and company within that industry. It would be like me claiming to know every thought, word and utterance of every person and company of import in the telecom industry. Impossible.
Relative to the mindset of the convention, tourist and visitors segment of local and state governments, be it either in a direct role within the general governmental structure and/or as a quasi governmental entity or separate oversight body or commission. I actually know quite a bit.
Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2020, 03:52:02 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 03:54:01 PM
It's fun to watch Dax act like he is IRL expert on something, then a IRL expert comes in and calls his bluff, then he flounders for pages.It would be like me claiming to know every thought, word and utterance of every person and company of import in the telecom industry.
I wonder what Dax is really IRL expert on? He acts #onhere that it's basically everything.
But would you know if something was commonplace in your industry? Particularly in marketplaces that you work with daily?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 04:07:45 PM
It's fun to watch Dax act like he is IRL expert on something, then a IRL expert comes in and calls his bluff, then he flounders for pages.It would be like me claiming to know every thought, word and utterance of every person and company of import in the telecom industry.
I wonder what Dax is really IRL expert on? He acts #onhere that it's basically everything.
But would you know if something was commonplace in your industry? Particularly in marketplaces that you work with daily?
Sure I would know something was commonplace, but I wouldn't even pretend to know what the mindset of every company or individual was towards customers . . . check that, I know exactly how the industry would react to those who don't pay their bills. Credit holds, denial of service, demand for deposits etc. etc. In other words, a deadbeat list.
I personally know convention and visitor staff people who want no part of political conventions, but they hold no sway when the political movement and the chamber of commerce gets behind events of that type.
Post by: Institutional Control on November 02, 2020, 04:13:32 PM
if I were a trumper I would super want to avoid criticizing the other guys for being a deadbeat.Accusing the other side of doing exactly what you’re doing is straight out of the Trump playbook.
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Post by: wetwillie on November 02, 2020, 04:16:22 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2020, 04:18:00 PM
Nothing is more :lol: :lol: then to hear/.read someone calling having an ID, racist.
I don't make a habit out of replying to this racist sack of trash, personally I hope he loses both hands in a meat grinder so I never have to see a post from him again. However, I relish all chances I get to show him as an unrepentant racist piece of crap in hopes that everyone else stops replying to him.
As much as we hear bragging about "first world Alabama," I'm certain the racist sack of trash knows this happened there.
Very short article
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/10/alabama-closes-dmvs-in-majority-of-black-belt-counties-passed-voter-id-law-in-2011.html
It's an article showing how Alabama enacted voter id laws, then when these laws started they promptly closed DMVs in majority black areas. It was so egregious that the closings had to be reversed.
I'll also point out that it was "first world Alabama" that sued the Obama administration that eventually led to the voting rights act being stripped. Shelby vs. Holder
Long Atlantic article if you're into such things.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/how-shelby-county-broke-america/564707/
Post by: ChiComCat on November 02, 2020, 04:27:06 PM
Just as you say you would know what is commonplace within your industry, I know if this is commonplace within mine and it isn't.
Sure I would know something was commonplace, but I wouldn't even pretend to know what the mindset of every company or individual was towards customers
If you think I am saying I know the mindset of every company and individual, I am not. I am saying "Deadbeat DNC" is not commonplace. If you have some authority in the industry that knows more than me, or even a source beyond some right-wing blog, I would love to see it. We're pretty deep into this now and you haven't produced anything so it's pretty safe to say it's from one of those blogs or you made it up.
I have zero doubt that there are people in the industry that don't want to do certain political conventions or any conventions. I wouldn't argue with that one bit.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 04:37:14 PM
Nothing is more :lol: :lol: then to hear/.read someone calling having an ID, racist.
I don't make a habit out of replying to this racist sack of trash, personally I hope he loses both hands in a meat grinder so I never have to see a post from him again. However, I relish all chances I get to show him as an unrepentant racist piece of crap in hopes that everyone else stops replying to him.
As much as we hear bragging about "first world Alabama," I'm certain the racist sack of trash knows this happened there.
Very short article
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/10/alabama-closes-dmvs-in-majority-of-black-belt-counties-passed-voter-id-law-in-2011.html
It's an article showing how Alabama enacted voter id laws, then when these laws started they promptly closed DMVs in majority black areas. It was so egregious that the closings had to be reversed.
I'll also point out that it was "first world Alabama" that sued the Obama administration that eventually led to the voting rights act being stripped. Shelby vs. Holder
Long Atlantic article if you're into such things.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/how-shelby-county-broke-america/564707/
I don't usually like to respond to the boards resident race baiting POS who knows deep in his dumbass little heart he's voting for a mega corrupt white racist war monger who spent the majority of his career sending POC off to needless wars to die, killing millions of POC in those needless wars, refugee'ing millions of other POC in those needless wars and needlessly incarcerating POC by the hundreds of thousands in this country.
While deporting millions of other people of color from this country.
The other total sell out disingenuous pile of garbage on that ticket put POC parents in jail for truancy. Truant because the kid was in the hospital. While she smiled, glad handed and goof'ed it up with law enforcement and border patrol. Only to sell them all down the river for the sake of political expediency and being fake woke. She stood on stage and called her running mate a sexual predator but then she couldn't wait to accept that nomination from said sexual predator. A total sell out to everything in every sense of the term.
But I digress.
I didn't even live in this state in 5 years ago, and that entire administration is either completely gone or nearly completely gone.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
Just as you say you would know what is commonplace within your industry, I know if this is commonplace within mine and it isn't.
Sure I would know something was commonplace, but I wouldn't even pretend to know what the mindset of every company or individual was towards customers
If you think I am saying I know the mindset of every company and individual, I am not. I am saying "Deadbeat DNC" is not commonplace. If you have some authority in the industry that knows more than me, or even a source beyond some right-wing blog, I would love to see it. We're pretty deep into this now and you haven't produced anything so it's pretty safe to say it's from one of those blogs or you made it up.
I have zero doubt that there are people in the industry that don't want to do certain political conventions or any conventions. I wouldn't argue with that one bit.
You're certainly entitled to believe that there are no people in the industry who think the DNC doesn't have a dead beat reputation.
It's not exactly something that people who believe that are going to advertise.
Post by: Trim on November 02, 2020, 04:57:33 PM
The Deadbeat DNC is a common theme heard in the convention and hospitality industry.
You're certainly entitled to believe that there are no people in the industry who think the DNC doesn't have a dead beat reputation.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 04:59:45 PM
This 6-hour event flew by like it was 90 minutes.The Deadbeat DNC is a common theme heard in the convention and hospitality industry.You're certainly entitled to believe that there are no people in the industry who think the DNC doesn't have a dead beat reputation.
Some people don't get nuance.
Post by: passranch on November 02, 2020, 05:14:00 PM
Post by: sys on November 02, 2020, 05:27:21 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 02, 2020, 05:32:06 PM
before we settled on waterboarding, i bet we forced a lot of captured iraqi soldiers to scroll through message boards where posters would simply not stop interacting with dax.
He can’t be fatigued, it’s remarkable.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 05:37:19 PM
It's a true spitball experience involving someone who doesn't really know crap about anything.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2020, 05:37:39 PM
before we settled on waterboarding, i bet we forced a lot of captured iraqi soldiers to scroll through message boards where posters would simply not stop interacting with dax.
:ROFL:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 05:40:16 PM
It's just sad to see that certain total dumbasses on this board don't get that "first world AL" is kind of a joke. But then again, sarcasm has been and will always be lost on that dumbass.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 05:49:29 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-kamala-harris-got-big-social-media-boost-indian-troll-farms-1544047
Troll farms are bad (unless they're for our candidate)
Post by: star seed 7 on November 02, 2020, 05:53:13 PM
I didn't even live in this state in 5 years ago, and that entire administration is either completely gone or nearly completely gone.
Dax thinks history doesn't matter, smdh
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 05:59:53 PM
I didn't even live in this state in 5 years ago, and that entire administration is either completely gone or nearly completely gone.
Dax thinks history doesn't matter, smdh
When all of those policies have been reversed, except, and rightfully so, the voter ID law.
A state ID card is good for a lifetime for anyone over the age of 62, so the elderly and interned excuse doesn't apply at all. That state was also involved in a massive campaign to educate people on how to get an ID card over the last few years. But I know in white liberal world, where you consider all POC as simpletons and in in constant need of having white liberals tell them what to do, that doesn't matter.
Post by: CHONGS on November 02, 2020, 06:04:31 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 06:07:29 PM
Simpletons like @sys will continue to parrot them.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 02, 2020, 06:14:25 PM
BTW, for the hyper anal idiots on here (so a lot) I have no idea if this is legit or not.
Post by: Trim on November 02, 2020, 06:46:11 PM
Post by: Cire on November 02, 2020, 06:51:20 PM
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Post by: Tobias on November 02, 2020, 06:53:16 PM
Post by: mocat on November 02, 2020, 08:18:12 PM
before we settled on waterboarding, i bet we forced a lot of captured iraqi soldiers to scroll through message boards where posters would simply not stop interacting with dax.
lol
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 02, 2020, 10:59:52 PM
Post by: catastrophe on November 03, 2020, 12:51:38 AM
To be fair that was before Dax realized that Biden was a lifelong politician who helped push some reforms 30 years ago that negatively impacted blacks.
Post by: steve dave on November 03, 2020, 08:04:30 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2020, 08:08:30 AM
Prob worth a reminder here that just a year ago Dax said he’d vote Biden over Trump.
To be fair that was before Dax realized that Biden was a lifelong politician who helped push some reforms 30 years ago that negatively impacted blacks.
Of course a hedge since he didn't think Joe had any shot then. Imagine having to build in excuses because you end up voting for a reality TV star that pays off porn stars then stands in front of a church holding up a bible and you buy it.
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 08:11:52 AM
Post by: CHONGS on November 03, 2020, 08:32:00 AM
Post by: Trim on November 03, 2020, 08:54:40 AM
When do you guys think the first wave of panic (not that it will necessarily be justified, but there is a good chance it will be) with ripple through Twitter? I'm guessing around 5:45 CT.
Any minute now, prompted by rob tweeting about a podcast with he and #oscar’s soothing voices.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 09:30:41 AM
(https://www.270towin.com/maps/R0z9W.png)
I show this to illustrate that trump has to win New Hampshire, a state where he's down 10%, to even get a tie. When we see early that he's lost New Hampshire, what is his conceivable path? Flip Colorado or New Mexico?
Post by: mocat on November 03, 2020, 09:32:49 AM
Isn't this the absolute 100% worst possible scenario? This constitutes Trump running the table, with some sizable upsets right?
(https://www.270towin.com/maps/R0z9W.png)
I show this to illustrate that trump has to win New Hampshire, a state where he's down 10%, to even get a tie. When we see early that he's lost New Hampshire, what is his conceivable path? Flip Colorado or New Mexico?
is Biden for sure taking NC?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2020, 09:39:11 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 09:40:23 AM
Pennsylvania
Ohio
North Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Texas
Arizona
Post by: CHONGS on November 03, 2020, 09:44:18 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2020, 09:47:42 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2020, 09:50:23 AM
Post by: mocat on November 03, 2020, 09:52:36 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 10:02:06 AM
i kind of feel like if Trump wins one of those (FL PA NC GA AZ) he will win all (or eat least most) of them.
Those states aren't the same though, you have a decidedly blue state (PA) in the mix with a purple (NC) and three reliable red states.
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 10:37:24 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 03, 2020, 10:44:27 AM
I think his most likely victory scenario is pulling some state that nobody thinks he's going to get, like Michigan or Wisconsin.I mean he did bring football back
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 03, 2020, 10:57:13 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 10:58:35 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2020, 11:05:01 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2020, 11:05:30 AM
Post by: 8manpick on November 03, 2020, 11:10:21 AM
Not for Wisconsin!I think his most likely victory scenario is pulling some state that nobody thinks he's going to get, like Michigan or Wisconsin.I mean he did bring football back
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 11:19:47 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2020, 11:23:34 AM
I can legit every election see something in another candidate that I think, yeah okay I can see that point, not important to me or my point of view but it is for that voter, got it. I can't see one thing in Trump. It drives me mad because I know not every person voting Trump is a mindless "I vote for R only" voter.
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 11:28:33 AM
Post by: waks on November 03, 2020, 11:33:32 AM
On this election day, I sit and ponder, what is the one compelling argument that Donald J Trump has shown the past 4 years or says he will do over the next 4 that compels any rational voter to say "yes, I choose him".As much as I hate to agree with Dax, no new wars or military interventions should be looked at as a positive.
I can legit every election see something in another candidate that I think, yeah okay I can see that point, not important to me or my point of view but it is for that voter, got it. I can't see one thing in Trump. It drives me mad because I know not every person voting Trump is a mindless "I vote for R only" voter.
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 03, 2020, 11:33:57 AM
This might be the least peaceful transition of power in our lifetimesOh?
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2020, 11:35:20 AM
On this election day, I sit and ponder, what is the one compelling argument that Donald J Trump has shown the past 4 years or says he will do over the next 4 that compels any rational voter to say "yes, I choose him".As much as I hate to agree with Dax, no new wars or military interventions should be looked at as a positive.
I can legit every election see something in another candidate that I think, yeah okay I can see that point, not important to me or my point of view but it is for that voter, got it. I can't see one thing in Trump. It drives me mad because I know not every person voting Trump is a mindless "I vote for R only" voter.
Right. I don't mean to rehash "good things trump has done" but maybe that is the compelling reason people are choosing him? Based on his base they don't seem like the "wussies" that don't want wars though.
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 11:39:03 AM
This might be the least peaceful transition of power in our lifetimesOh?
You don’t think Trump is going to pull some stupid crap?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2020, 11:43:03 AM
On this election day, I sit and ponder, what is the one compelling argument that Donald J Trump has shown the past 4 years or says he will do over the next 4 that compels any rational voter to say "yes, I choose him".As much as I hate to agree with Dax, no new wars or military interventions should be looked at as a positive.
I can legit every election see something in another candidate that I think, yeah okay I can see that point, not important to me or my point of view but it is for that voter, got it. I can't see one thing in Trump. It drives me mad because I know not every person voting Trump is a mindless "I vote for R only" voter.
Right. I don't mean to rehash "good things trump has done" but maybe that is the compelling reason people are choosing him? Based on his base they don't seem like the "wussies" that don't want wars though.
I don't think the people voting for him care that we haven't gone to war. Most of his supporters are voting for him based upon some combination of abortion, racism, lack of belief in cheaper, cleaner energy, tax cuts, appreciation of shitty health care, and crippling fear of people who live in blue states, not unlike how the people in Kazakhstan think of Jews in Borat.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 11:45:15 AM
A 40 year DC mega corrupt creep. Who has played a huge role in sending thousands upon thousands of our sons and daughters off to die in needless wars. Who has played a huge role in destroying multiple nations, a list that includes the following countries: Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen.
That has cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of people, and displaced an estimated 4 to 6 million people across the Middle East.
Biden was in an administration that that either started or expanded multiple wars that still rage today, as much as a decade later.
He was in an administration that had a disgraceful record of seeking peace in the Middle East and elsewhere.
He was in an administration that attempted to install the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and tried to overthrow the government of Turkey (and will likely try again).
Joe was part of an administration that lied repeatedly about spying on the American people. They spied on our allies, they spied on Congress and they spied on journalists.
Joe was part of administration that was dunked on repeatedly by China and Russia while the same administration dumped cash on the Tarmac in Tehran.
ChiCom Joe championed incarceration nation, that has specifically targeted young men of color and ballooned our nations prison population.
ChiCom Joe was part of the original kids in cages administration that laid the entirety of the ground work for current immigration policy.
ChiCom Joe was part of an administration that deported millions of people.
ChiCom Joe was part of an administration where the DHS Secretary and the POTUS stood at the border and in so many words told migrants, tough crap, the road ends right here for you. \
Biden Family Inc. is as corrupt as the day is long, and they are groomed and wholly owned by the Chinese government.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 11:45:39 AM
This might be the least peaceful transition of power in our lifetimesOh?
You don’t think Trump is going to pull some stupid crap?
I think tbt misread your post. Also the behind the scenes of this has intrigued me, a lot. Transitions actually begin before the election, I can't wait to hear about all the wild crap the Biden transition team has already had to do that no other candidate had to deal with, also the harry horseshit the Obama administration had to deal with.
Post by: catastrophe on November 03, 2020, 11:45:51 AM
I think DBT was an early adopter of this theory. Maybe even was a bet about it with Spracne.This might be the least peaceful transition of power in our lifetimesOh?
You don’t think Trump is going to pull some stupid crap?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 11:46:44 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 11:48:05 AM
I think DBT was an early adopter of this theory. Maybe even was a bet about it with Spracne.This might be the least peaceful transition of power in our lifetimesOh?
You don’t think Trump is going to pull some stupid crap?
Oh?
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2020, 11:49:14 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 11:49:38 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 11:51:33 AM
Dax hammering home my point for me. Thanks bud.
Your VP candidate stood on stage and total the world that she believed in her ice cold shriveled heart that Joe Biden was a sexual predator, Phil.
That's the kind of sell out that you're supporting.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2020, 11:52:36 AM
My point has been made. No reason to keep going. I appreciate it.Dax hammering home my point for me. Thanks bud.
Your VP candidate stood on stage and total the world that she believed in her ice cold shriveled heart that Joe Biden was a sexual predator, Phil.
That's the kind of sell out that you're supporting.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2020, 11:52:47 AM
Holy crap, no one read that screed, right?
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/EtkvA.jpg)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 11:53:54 AM
My point has been made. No reason to keep going. I appreciate it.Dax hammering home my point for me. Thanks bud.
Your VP candidate stood on stage and total the world that she believed in her ice cold shriveled heart that Joe Biden was a sexual predator, Phil.
That's the kind of sell out that you're supporting.
I don't know what your point is, I'm not going back pages to find out.
I assume that your point was to once again affirm that you fully support a mega corrupt white racist war monger (again)..
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 11:55:01 AM
Holy crap, no one read that screed, right?
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/EtkvA.jpg)
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 11:56:20 AM
Post by: Justwin on November 03, 2020, 11:56:40 AM
On this election day, I sit and ponder, what is the one compelling argument that Donald J Trump has shown the past 4 years or says he will do over the next 4 that compels any rational voter to say "yes, I choose him".
I can legit every election see something in another candidate that I think, yeah okay I can see that point, not important to me or my point of view but it is for that voter, got it. I can't see one thing in Trump. It drives me mad because I know not every person voting Trump is a mindless "I vote for R only" voter.
Judges.
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 03, 2020, 11:58:37 AM
I voted for a white racist again (Dax)
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2020, 11:58:49 AM
My point has been made. No reason to keep going. I appreciate it.Dax hammering home my point for me. Thanks bud.
Your VP candidate stood on stage and total the world that she believed in her ice cold shriveled heart that Joe Biden was a sexual predator, Phil.
That's the kind of sell out that you're supporting.
I don't know what your point is, I'm not going back pages to find out.
I assume that your point was to once again affirm that you fully support a mega corrupt white racist war monger (again)..
there is no legit reason any reasonable person is voting for Trump based on what he did or says he will do. You literally just are voting for the letter and people that vote party first are bad humans.
Post by: CHONGS on November 03, 2020, 11:59:19 AM
Yes, that and owning the libs.On this election day, I sit and ponder, what is the one compelling argument that Donald J Trump has shown the past 4 years or says he will do over the next 4 that compels any rational voter to say "yes, I choose him".
I can legit every election see something in another candidate that I think, yeah okay I can see that point, not important to me or my point of view but it is for that voter, got it. I can't see one thing in Trump. It drives me mad because I know not every person voting Trump is a mindless "I vote for R only" voter.
Judges.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2020, 12:01:16 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2020, 12:05:11 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 12:05:20 PM
My point has been made. No reason to keep going. I appreciate it.Dax hammering home my point for me. Thanks bud.
Your VP candidate stood on stage and total the world that she believed in her ice cold shriveled heart that Joe Biden was a sexual predator, Phil.
That's the kind of sell out that you're supporting.
I don't know what your point is, I'm not going back pages to find out.
I assume that your point was to once again affirm that you fully support a mega corrupt white racist war monger (again)..
there is no legit reason any reasonable person is voting for Trump based on what he did or says he will do. You literally just are voting for the letter and people that vote party first are bad humans.
I voted against Joe Biden for what he has done and who and what he is.
That is a mega corrupt white racist war monger who is either in whole or in part responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of people and displacing millions while being responsible for incarcerating hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. While helping to create incarceration nation. A guy who in 40 years really didn't do jack crap for POC and minorities in this country, but of course, expected their vote none-the-less.
I'm looking forward to dissecting the people who will be in his administration. Because if the speculation of who those cogs are going to be are correct. It's will be a whose-who and what's-what of literally everything LibDerps supposedly hated, but now sadly love, at least from a foreign policy perspective. It's also likely going to be loaded with nearly every element of the K-Street apparatia that Joe has fed off of for 40 years.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2020, 12:07:13 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 12:08:27 PM
He was impeached and a whole lot of democrats got upset at him. The typical republican believes that the democrats have an underground child sex trafficking ring where they drink the blood of children with Hollywood elites, so they think it's great that Trump made them angry.
The majority of Republicans don't even know that stuff even exists. You just think that because the mega weirdos on here who hang out on Alex Jones and TexAgs all day.
What is true is that nearly 100% of BidenVoter believes things like the Steele Dossier and Russia-Russia-Russia 1000% and we'll throw on some Mueller Truthers for good measure.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 12:09:44 PM
You legit said you'd vote for Biden earlier this year over Trump. All these things just came to light huh?
Way earlier this year and before he was the presumptive front runner. Weird how things change when you become the front runner.
It's good to know you aren't capable of changing your mind. Expected from a monolithic hyper-partisan.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2020, 12:12:07 PM
You legit said you'd vote for Biden earlier this year over Trump. All these things just came to light huh?
Way earlier this year and before he was the presumptive front runner. Weird how things change when you become the front runner.
It's good to know you aren't capable of changing your mind. Expected from a monolithic hyper-partisan.
So to be clear, all this and the novel above just came about when he became the front runner? Dax I'm sorry for you personally that you've got mixed up in this Trump thing but damn it's going to be funny.
Quote
That is a mega corrupt white racist war monger who is either in whole or in part responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of people and displacing millions while being responsible for incarcerating hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. While helping to create incarceration nation. A guy who in 40 years really didn't do jack crap for POC and minorities in this country, but of course, expected their vote none-the-less.
Post by: mocat on November 03, 2020, 12:13:08 PM
You legit said you'd vote for Biden earlier this year over Trump. All these things just came to light huh?
Way earlier this year and before he was the presumptive front runner. Weird how things change when you become the front runner.
lmao
Post by: mocat on November 03, 2020, 12:13:38 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 12:14:24 PM
You legit said you'd vote for Biden earlier this year over Trump. All these things just came to light huh?
Way earlier this year and before he was the presumptive front runner. Weird how things change when you become the front runner.
It's good to know you aren't capable of changing your mind. Expected from a monolithic hyper-partisan.
So to be clear, all this and the novel above just came about when he became the front runner? Dax I'm sorry for you personally that you've got mixed up in this Trump thing but damn it's going to be funny.QuoteThat is a mega corrupt white racist war monger who is either in whole or in part responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of people and displacing millions while being responsible for incarcerating hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. While helping to create incarceration nation. A guy who in 40 years really didn't do jack crap for POC and minorities in this country, but of course, expected their vote none-the-less.
It's pretty sad that you think your support of a guy with such a deplorable track record towards the human race over the last 40 years getting elected president is funny.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 12:15:51 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2020, 12:17:42 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2020, 12:18:23 PM
You legit said you'd vote for Biden earlier this year over Trump. All these things just came to light huh?
Way earlier this year and before he was the presumptive front runner. Weird how things change when you become the front runner.
It's good to know you aren't capable of changing your mind. Expected from a monolithic hyper-partisan.
So to be clear, all this and the novel above just came about when he became the front runner? Dax I'm sorry for you personally that you've got mixed up in this Trump thing but damn it's going to be funny.QuoteThat is a mega corrupt white racist war monger who is either in whole or in part responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of people and displacing millions while being responsible for incarcerating hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. While helping to create incarceration nation. A guy who in 40 years really didn't do jack crap for POC and minorities in this country, but of course, expected their vote none-the-less.
It's pretty sad that you think your support of a guy with such a deplorable track record towards the human race over the last 40 years getting elected president is funny.
I trust your opinion and you said you were voting for him.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 12:18:38 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2020, 12:18:55 PM
Look, I love a good dax bashing/meltdown thread, but can we segregate this crap to it's own thread just for today?
I'm done. It's the last day so I wanted to get one more in.
Post by: 8manpick on November 03, 2020, 12:19:20 PM
Holy crap, no one read that screed, right?What screed?
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 12:20:35 PM
You legit said you'd vote for Biden earlier this year over Trump. All these things just came to light huh?
Way earlier this year and before he was the presumptive front runner. Weird how things change when you become the front runner.
It's good to know you aren't capable of changing your mind. Expected from a monolithic hyper-partisan.
So to be clear, all this and the novel above just came about when he became the front runner? Dax I'm sorry for you personally that you've got mixed up in this Trump thing but damn it's going to be funny.QuoteThat is a mega corrupt white racist war monger who is either in whole or in part responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of people and displacing millions while being responsible for incarcerating hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. While helping to create incarceration nation. A guy who in 40 years really didn't do jack crap for POC and minorities in this country, but of course, expected their vote none-the-less.
It's pretty sad that you think your support of a guy with such a deplorable track record towards the human race over the last 40 years getting elected president is funny.
I trust your opinion and you said you were voting for him.
Months and months ago, Phil. Look, I completely get that you're a hyper-partisan straight liner who is going to check off the (D) no matter what kind of troll your party serves up. You don't need to keep reminding us of that.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 01:06:15 PM
Voted for Doug Jones (D) and multiple (D) for State BOE seats, as well as multiple (D) Judges.
Dax (non hyper-partisan non straight line voter)
Also glad to say, that unlike what white liberals think, many many people of color were able to fend for themselves and had a state approved ID at the ready at the ballot check-in table. Fantastic first world system in place in AL, extremely efficient. ID scanner, screen pop, electronic sig, fill out your ballot, run through the scanner, done.
Post by: treysolid on November 03, 2020, 02:50:53 PM
BTW:
Voted for Doug Jones (D) and multiple (D) for State BOE seats, as well as multiple (D) Judges.
Dax (non hyper-partisan non straight line voter)
Also glad to say, that unlike what white liberals think, many many people of color were able to fend for themselves and had a state approved ID at the ready at the ballot check-in table. Fantastic first world system in place in AL, extremely efficient. ID scanner, screen pop, electronic sig, fill out your ballot, run through the scanner, done.
Not in Margaret...
Post by: michigancat on November 03, 2020, 02:53:34 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 02:55:59 PM
BTW:
Voted for Doug Jones (D) and multiple (D) for State BOE seats, as well as multiple (D) Judges.
Dax (non hyper-partisan non straight line voter)
Also glad to say, that unlike what white liberals think, many many people of color were able to fend for themselves and had a state approved ID at the ready at the ballot check-in table. Fantastic first world system in place in AL, extremely efficient. ID scanner, screen pop, electronic sig, fill out your ballot, run through the scanner, done.
Not in Margaret...
St. Clair County, so, that pretty much explains it.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 03:22:10 PM
Pretty stunned to see this after the BidenVoter PA AG pushed his way into the election process.
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 04:31:25 PM
https://twitter.com/speechboy71/status/1323735556346568707
Post by: steve dave on November 03, 2020, 04:46:46 PM
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1323752032000450570
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 05:04:21 PM
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1323755668835360773
Post by: _33 on November 03, 2020, 05:12:22 PM
Post by: DQ12 on November 03, 2020, 05:26:55 PM
Are you more anxious right now, or before the KSU vs West Virginia game on Saturday?Way more on Saturday but my priorities are probably mumped up.
Post by: nicname on November 03, 2020, 05:28:02 PM
Are you more anxious right now, or before the KSU vs West Virginia game on Saturday?
Very similar tbh. Felt we'd eventually get exposed offensively, and WVU was as likely candidate as any. Also pretty positive Biden is gonna walk away with this thing, and feel that's probably a good thing.
Post by: nicname on November 03, 2020, 05:29:15 PM
Are you more anxious right now, or before the KSU vs West Virginia game on Saturday?Way more on Saturday but my priorities are probably mumped up.
We all know what's going to happen in Don v Joe (Joe wins). It's very anticlimactic. Also not at all like Don v Dumbass Hillary imo.
Post by: IPA4Me on November 03, 2020, 05:29:27 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 05:40:13 PM
Are you more anxious right now, or before the KSU vs West Virginia game on Saturday?
This answer definitely speaks to a level of privilege the person who answers has.
Post by: 8manpick on November 03, 2020, 05:41:45 PM
I’m a privileged [redacted], but I’m way more anxious nowAre you more anxious right now, or before the KSU vs West Virginia game on Saturday?
This answer definitely speaks to a level of privilege the person who answers has.
Post by: Trim on November 03, 2020, 05:43:36 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 05:45:05 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 05:46:09 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 05:46:18 PM
I’m a privileged [redacted], but I’m way more anxious nowAre you more anxious right now, or before the KSU vs West Virginia game on Saturday?
This answer definitely speaks to a level of privilege the person who answers has.
More anxious than when? I'm real high on that privilege continuum. Definitely more nervous over the election than a football game, but I don't view the election results as life altering, as some people do. ICE isn't knocking on my door and flying me to some strange country if trump wins again.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 05:47:04 PM
I was pretty sure we would win on Saturday
Me too, was much more nervous before KU than I was WVU.
Post by: 8manpick on November 03, 2020, 05:48:48 PM
Well, yeah, more anxious than the football game that was the comparison. I’ve had very few times when I needed to be anxious because something bad might happen to me. I’m very anxious on the scale of my anxiety, which is super low when generalized to society at large.I’m a privileged [redacted], but I’m way more anxious nowAre you more anxious right now, or before the KSU vs West Virginia game on Saturday?
This answer definitely speaks to a level of privilege the person who answers has.
More anxious than when? I'm real high on that privilege continuum. Definitely more nervous over the election than a football game, but I don't view the election results as life altering, as some people do. ICE isn't knocking on my door and flying me to some strange country if trump wins again.
Post by: Institutional Control on November 03, 2020, 06:10:50 PM
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Post by: DQ12 on November 03, 2020, 06:11:31 PM
GuiltyAre you more anxious right now, or before the KSU vs West Virginia game on Saturday?
This answer definitely speaks to a level of privilege the person who answers has.
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 06:14:50 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2020, 06:15:32 PM
Has this thing been called yet?
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Yeah, Biden won.
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 06:18:14 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 03, 2020, 06:18:15 PM
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Post by: ChiComCat on November 03, 2020, 06:20:50 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 06:26:42 PM
https://twitter.com/PeterSchorschFL/status/1323779303016960000
Oof
https://twitter.com/JMilesColeman/status/1323781321345376256
Post by: mocat on November 03, 2020, 06:28:02 PM
Post by: _33 on November 03, 2020, 06:33:48 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2020, 06:35:53 PM
Post by: Pete on November 03, 2020, 06:39:03 PM
https://twitter.com/PeterSchorschFL/status/1323779303016960000
Oof
https://twitter.com/JMilesColeman/status/1323781321345376256
Not so fast. That county's Cuban vote is big. They love Trump's stance on Cuba.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 03, 2020, 06:40:57 PM
For those saying you're more nervous now, remember, if we'd won the game on Saturday we could have finished 2-2 and almost assuredly gone to the champ game!
I never really thought we would both win that game and finish 2-2
Post by: DQ12 on November 03, 2020, 06:44:30 PM
For those saying you're more nervous now, remember, if we'd won the game on Saturday we could have finished 2-2 and almost assuredly gone to the champ game!Even without that I'd still have been more nervous! I'm a wreck before K-State games.
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 06:55:25 PM
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 07:06:21 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 07:07:38 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 07:08:37 PM
hard to see how biden can make up that performance in miami dade elsewhere. rough ridin' cubans.
No big deal Texas is going for Biden
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 07:12:02 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 07:13:33 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 07:16:39 PM
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 07:28:37 PM
hard to see how biden can make up that performance in miami dade elsewhere. rough ridin' cubans.
No big deal Texas is going for Biden
doesn't look like he got enough in harris to me. close, but trump should keep it.
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 07:33:50 PM
hard to see how biden can make up that performance in miami dade elsewhere. rough ridin' cubans.
No big deal Texas is going for Biden
doesn't look like he got enough in harris to me. close, but trump should keep it.
Yea but he needs North Carolina and he is toast there
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 07:36:01 PM
georgia still has a chance to break from the 2018 pattern. pretty decent chance, i think.
Post by: kim carnes on November 03, 2020, 07:38:35 PM
Post by: 8manpick on November 03, 2020, 07:39:00 PM
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 07:50:56 PM
Post by: 8manpick on November 03, 2020, 07:51:24 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 03, 2020, 07:52:27 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 03, 2020, 07:58:43 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 03, 2020, 08:05:31 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 08:06:45 PM
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 08:11:48 PM
NYT seems to think he can? I dunno
yeah, maybe the remaining vote is from overwhelmingly red source, i dunno.
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 08:13:17 PM
https://twitter.com/henryolsenEPPC/status/1323807185474781184
Post by: kim carnes on November 03, 2020, 08:15:43 PM
:frown:
https://twitter.com/henryolsenEPPC/status/1323807185474781184
How tho
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 08:21:30 PM
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 08:24:12 PM
NYT seems to think he can? I dunno
yeah, maybe the remaining vote is from overwhelmingly red source, i dunno.
margin is falling a ton with not a ton of new vote coming in, so yeah, apparently it's super red.
Post by: bucket on November 03, 2020, 08:26:53 PM
I just want Steve Kornacki to drop a KSU football reference
John King pointed to Manhattan and gave a shout out to Ft. Riley.
Post by: kim carnes on November 03, 2020, 08:32:42 PM
NYT seems to think he can? I dunno
yeah, maybe the remaining vote is from overwhelmingly red source, i dunno.
margin is falling a ton with not a ton of new vote coming in, so yeah, apparently it's super red.
Ya it’s pretty crazy
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 08:32:55 PM
https://twitter.com/pearkes/status/1323812418515066880
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 08:35:47 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 03, 2020, 08:38:42 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 08:40:09 PM
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 08:44:58 PM
Yea but Georgia will hold
don't think there is much chance georgia votes to the left of north carolina.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2020, 08:48:28 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 03, 2020, 08:49:45 PM
He’s getting drubbed in Ohio and NC
Nevermind
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 08:50:01 PM
Yea but Georgia will hold
don't think there is much chance georgia votes to the left of north carolina.
Sure but the upper Midwest will go blue
Post by: treysolid on November 03, 2020, 08:51:36 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 03, 2020, 08:51:44 PM
Probably notYea but Georgia will hold
don't think there is much chance georgia votes to the left of north carolina.
Sure but the upper Midwest will go blue
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 08:52:16 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 08:59:57 PM
BruhProbably notYea but Georgia will hold
don't think there is much chance georgia votes to the left of north carolina.
Sure but the upper Midwest will go blue
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 09:00:20 PM
Sure but the upper Midwest will go blue
yeah. but this is much closer than i expected. and arizona has to be considered pretty iffy based on the poor numbers from texas latinos.
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 09:03:31 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 09:12:07 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 09:14:01 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2020, 09:15:20 PM
i'm not going to, but probably should find something else to do for the rest of the night. we're not gonna get a winner tonight.
This is exactly my thought, but I can't look away
Post by: bucket on November 03, 2020, 09:16:01 PM
Trump now -500 , What does Vegas know?
The map.
Post by: nicname on November 03, 2020, 09:19:46 PM
Means nothing
Vegas is a very accurate predictor of most things. I don’t see why a presidential election would be any different.
Post by: catastrophe on November 03, 2020, 09:23:35 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 03, 2020, 09:23:46 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 09:24:20 PM
Post by: nicname on November 03, 2020, 09:24:41 PM
The lines don’t move based on their predictions, they move based on what is being bet.
Yes
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 09:25:39 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 03, 2020, 09:26:37 PM
The lines don’t move based on their predictions, they move based on what is being bet.
There could be a reason a lot of money is suddenly being bet on trump
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 09:30:36 PM
I just want Steve Kornacki to drop a KSU football reference
I want to keep watching him but I can't stand Brian Williams.
Post by: michigancat on November 03, 2020, 09:33:02 PM
I just want Steve Kornacki to drop a KSU football reference
I want to keep watching him but I can't stand Brian Williams.
brian williams is awful. how has he been on tv his entire life
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 09:38:45 PM
https://twitter.com/lennybronner/status/1323831488488607745
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 10:23:40 PM
https://twitter.com/SalehaMohsin/status/1323839724063252483
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 10:30:41 PM
https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/1323842731978985472
Post by: Trim on November 03, 2020, 10:38:58 PM
where's trim's how mumped are things going to get poll?
https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=42234.0
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 11:09:24 PM
Post by: DQ12 on November 03, 2020, 11:12:01 PM
steve dave was definitely right about his vote being the most valuable among goemawers.We have at least one Wisconsin'r. Also for some reason I thought Poetwarrior lived in North Carolina.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 11:33:11 PM
steve dave was definitely right about his vote being the most valuable among goemawers.
Yes he was, and that's looking good right now.
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 11:33:48 PM
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1323860150013276162
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 11:34:30 PM
:dunno:
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1323855032207450113
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 11:35:19 PM
hard for me to picture georgia voting to the left of north carolina.
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1323860150013276162
You saying Biden wins both?
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 11:38:02 PM
You saying Biden wins both?
no, i'm presenting the information that a respected source is saying it's still up in the air but adding my own caveat that i'm pretty skeptical.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 11:39:16 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 11:39:54 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 11:42:55 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 11:48:18 PM
hard for me to picture georgia voting to the left of north carolina.You’re a dumbass who doesn’t have the first clue.
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1323860150013276162
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2020, 11:53:46 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 03, 2020, 11:55:15 PM
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 11:58:35 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2020, 11:59:09 PM
Anyone else find it interesting with how quiet Trump has been tonight?
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Post by: sys on November 04, 2020, 01:16:37 AM
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 01:27:12 AM
Post by: Brock Landers on November 04, 2020, 01:29:02 AM
Post by: Trim on November 04, 2020, 01:29:19 AM
I'm pretty shocked that there seems to be a legitimate possibility Biden only gains one state from 2016.
The people that make up america are relatively the same and in the same places.
Post by: Brock Landers on November 04, 2020, 01:29:59 AM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 04, 2020, 01:32:24 AM
Post by: Brock Landers on November 04, 2020, 01:33:59 AM
Post by: sys on November 04, 2020, 01:40:56 AM
https://twitter.com/lennybronner/status/1323889435428167680
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 02:34:40 AM
this is really interesting. the wapo model is pretty confident on how many votes trump will end up with in georgia, but has a wide range of possibilities for biden's total.
https://twitter.com/lennybronner/status/1323889435428167680
Just got another dump, the margin is just slightly over 100,000 now. NBC are estimating just over 400,000 votes left. If the margins continue their pace, Biden will have a slight win.
Post by: sys on November 04, 2020, 03:39:57 AM
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1323922428226129925
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 03:46:20 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 04:04:33 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 04:21:45 AM
Post by: sys on November 04, 2020, 04:31:03 AM
Biden will receive the most votes in a presidential election in the history of the country, lol electoral college.
tbf, trump will receive the 2nd most.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 04:51:17 AM
Biden will receive the most votes in a presidential election in the history of the country, lol electoral college.
tbf, trump will receive the 2nd most.
Correct, but to think the person who received the most votes in the history of the country actually didn't win, that's insane. Nothing will change.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 04:55:31 AM
Who ever could have possibly seen that the democrats playing from the same playbook that has left them asking this same stupid ass question would have yielded the same results. Biden still may win this election, maybe even likely, but that party desperately needs a rebuild. They can start by ousting Nancy, let's see if now they will actually get courage from the wizard.
Post by: Cire on November 04, 2020, 05:44:56 AM
Arrogant, fat, stupid, uneducated.
That’s the dem problem.
He speaks to them because he is them
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Post by: cfbandyman on November 04, 2020, 06:43:05 AM
We probably won't know today unless GA goes to Biden, which is going to be pretty damn close not matter who wins. PA only mail ins now pretty much too, but that's a large gap, we'll see as those come in. Winning 75% of that isn't unreasonable given how much Biden has won early voting/mail in in general.
Nevada also probably Biden's since only mail ins left, but damn them for not giving us results til Thursday.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 06:47:57 AM
The majority of Americans are Donald trump.
Arrogant, fat, stupid, uneducated.
That’s the dem problem.
He speaks to them because he is them
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Uhh, Biden is gonna win the pop vote by a decent amount. A large, but still, minority of voting Americans are conservative or moderate right leaning and geographically/structurally where they live works out for them.
:th_twocents: if peeps sat this out cuss Biden wasn't transformative/liberal enough they are at the margins rn and can't be expected to create some demographic advantage.
People did sit this out because Biden isn't transformative enough. Trump won Miami-Dade because he turns out the vote, he energizes his people. He doesn't appeal to a majority of Americans, not even close. What he does do is that he excites and energizes people who identify with him. MAGA doesn't account for all of his voters, but you can bet your ass no MAGAs sat home. The only time democrats attempted what even looked like a different direction they ran away with the presidency and won down ballot as well.
They are going to win this presidency, but I'm afraid they won't learn a damn thing from it, today may as well be the day after election day in 2012.
Post by: waks on November 04, 2020, 07:02:18 AM
Don't give a crap right now as long as this plays out. We can bitch about all of that once it's over IMO.The majority of Americans are Donald trump.
Arrogant, fat, stupid, uneducated.
That’s the dem problem.
He speaks to them because he is them
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Uhh, Biden is gonna win the pop vote by a decent amount. A large, but still, minority of voting Americans are conservative or moderate right leaning and geographically/structurally where they live works out for them.
:th_twocents: if peeps sat this out cuss Biden wasn't transformative/liberal enough they are at the margins rn and can't be expected to create some demographic advantage.
People did sit this out because Biden isn't transformative enough. Trump won Miami-Dade because he turns out the vote, he energizes his people. He doesn't appeal to a majority of Americans, not even close. What he does do is that he excites and energizes people who identify with him. MAGA doesn't account for all of his voters, but you can bet your ass no MAGAs sat home. The only time democrats attempted what even looked like a different direction they ran away with the presidency and won down ballot as well.
They are going to win this presidency, but I'm afraid they won't learn a damn thing from it, today may as well be the day after election day in 2012.
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 07:10:24 AM
Post by: sys on November 04, 2020, 07:13:01 AM
People did sit this out because Biden isn't transformative enough.
this would be a more convincing argument if pretty much every single democrat on a ballot with biden except steve bullock and roy cooper didn't do worse than him.
Post by: _33 on November 04, 2020, 07:27:15 AM
Post by: waks on November 04, 2020, 07:32:03 AM
Can someone explain the current situation to me? I just got up and went on Twitter and it's just a bunch of stupid nonsense. I can't figure out what's going on.A lot of mail in ballots are still being counted in the key states. People tend to believe that the majority of these are going to be blue. They are mostly coming from major metropolitan areas.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2020, 07:34:11 AM
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 07:36:14 AM
https://twitter.com/EmmaKinery/status/1323978234816581634
Post by: _33 on November 04, 2020, 07:37:49 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 07:39:42 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 04, 2020, 07:40:50 AM
Are you allowed to count mail in ballots before Election Day? You should be, then you can have them all counted and just add the election day votes to it.
Differs by state. For example, PA is not allowed to start counting them until 7am on Election Day.
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 07:41:16 AM
https://twitter.com/joeygarrison/status/1323976292539224065
Post by: _33 on November 04, 2020, 07:42:40 AM
Post by: kstater on November 04, 2020, 07:43:19 AM
Are you allowed to count mail in ballots before Election Day? You should be, then you can have them all counted and just add the election day votes to it.Depends on state. Pa for example, GOP led state house refused to amend procedure and they couldn't even as much as open the envelopes till yesterday.
I suspect this will all change by next election cycle
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Post by: 8manpick on November 04, 2020, 07:53:47 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 08:02:25 AM
https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1323865764810641409?s=20
Post by: ChiComCat on November 04, 2020, 08:04:40 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 08:16:22 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2020, 08:16:44 AM
Only if those places are controlled by a party that thinks more voting is a good thing
This election is showing that more voting probably favors the republicans more than the democrats.
Post by: Institutional Control on November 04, 2020, 08:19:07 AM
If all states hold to current leads, Biden is the president.
Post by: _33 on November 04, 2020, 08:21:51 AM
I agree it's dumb to slow down results and wait on counting. I can, however, see the rationale if there is a fear of early-voting numbers were to get out and affect participation on election day.
The holding the mail ballots is because people can vote in person and override their mail ballot.
It seems I've fallen victim to the very thing I hate, offering up a simple solution to a complicated issue. And for that I apologize.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2020, 08:27:59 AM
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 08:31:42 AM
Yeah, I think the way we are counting mail in ballots is probably for the best. It's not that big of a deal if the count goes into Wednesday or Thursday.(As long as the president does not incite violence over it)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 08:34:20 AM
Can someone explain the current situation to me? I just got up and went on Twitter and it's just a bunch of stupid nonsense. I can't figure out what's going on.
Biden won. The end.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 04, 2020, 08:35:10 AM
Only if those places are controlled by a party that thinks more voting is a good thing
This election is showing that more voting probably favors the republicans more than the democrats.
I wouldn't go that far, but I agree with the 538 assessment that it doesn't hurt them (real or perceived) as much as they think or try as hard as they do. I mean, if it was pop vote Biden wins this probably 6 mil+. Maybe 7. But in the states, it's definitely triaged.
Post by: kstater on November 04, 2020, 08:38:58 AM
I agree it's dumb to slow down results and wait on counting. I can, however, see the rationale if there is a fear of early-voting numbers were to get out and affect participation on election day.I think the happy medium should be to allow them to open and stage to get counted, then actually run them through on ED. The slow down is opening, checking signatures etc
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Post by: Gooch on November 04, 2020, 08:42:32 AM
Man, trump is scared shitlessImpending accountability and prosecution will do that.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 08:43:30 AM
Only if those places are controlled by a party that thinks more voting is a good thing
This election is showing that more voting probably favors the republicans more than the democrats.
There are more registered democrats nationally than republicans, usually around 50% to 45% republicans, it's been that way forever. Republicans have always and forever been better with turning out their fraction of vote, with the exception of 2008. 85% of 45% of the country is more than 75% of 50% of the country, this is exacerbated by the fact that the electoral college weighs those 45% heavier.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 04, 2020, 08:49:04 AM
I agree it's dumb to slow down results and wait on counting. I can, however, see the rationale if there is a fear of early-voting numbers were to get out and affect participation on election day.I think the happy medium should be to allow them to open and stage to get counted, then actually run them through on ED. The slow down is opening, checking signatures etc
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That is a big issue for sure. Most ballots are scanned, so that goes quick. Having to physically do the work day of has to suck so much ass.
Post by: Institutional Control on November 04, 2020, 08:51:05 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 08:52:48 AM
People did sit this out because Biden isn't transformative enough.
this would be a more convincing argument if pretty much every single democrat on a ballot with biden except steve bullock and roy cooper didn't do worse than him.
His inability to pull down ballot candidates up speak to his popularity with independents and moderate republicans, actually trump's unpopularity. If liberals turned out those down ballot candidates would do better. Looks like there were enough people who picked D at the top of the ticket but either abstained or voted R the rest of the way down to pull Biden up without helping anyone else.
I'm still certain that there is a reasonable percentage of people not voting Biden and by extension D because they represent the same old way things have been done. A $15 minimum wage measure passed in Florida while Biden got his ass handed to him. To me this says that the dems aren't reaching the people they could be reaching because their message is stale. There's no way those people who voted for a $15 minimum wage should have been voting for Trump, that's a massive failure.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 04, 2020, 09:00:48 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 09:10:08 AM
By transformative enough do you mean more liberal or less white and old or something else I'm missing?
More liberal for sure, or just more ambitious. Biden didn't run on anything that represents something new. What's interesting is that Biden and damn near all down ballot candidates were painted as radical liberals by the republicans, even though we all knew they weren't that. I think that resonated with the white rural voters that turned out at amazing levels for the republicans. However, the dems game plan, specifically Biden was not radical or anything pointing to any change whatsoever. There was no platform they spoke to that represented anything different for Americans. "We'll get your obamacare back!" seemingly completely unaware how unpopular it was.
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 09:16:33 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2020, 09:21:15 AM
Yeah this has definitely confirmed for me that I’m not a Democrat. Seems like a large part of that party is only excited about sweeping change rather than “let’s not eff up the country together” which was really my #1 priority this cycle.
I assumed this was everybodys priority this cycle and why I'm dumbfounded by any Trump vote.
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 09:22:54 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 09:24:46 AM
Yeah this has definitely confirmed for me that I’m not a Democrat. Seems like a large part of that party is only excited about sweeping change rather than “let’s not eff up the country together” which was really my #1 priority this cycle.
This is horse crap. Did you not see those Fox News polls? Democrats, like most people want government health care, stricter gun laws, s path to citizenship for immigrants, protection for women's health, environmental reforms, and racial and police reforms. These are not radical ideals, if you don't want these things, that's fine, you don't have to, but stop acting like liberals aren't interested in healing the country.
You're a moderate republican and that's fine, we don't all have to be happy sitting on our hands. Most Americans have a vested interest in not continuing the status quo.
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 09:26:26 AM
Yeah this has definitely confirmed for me that I’m not a Democrat. Seems like a large part of that party is only excited about sweeping change rather than “let’s not eff up the country together” which was really my #1 priority this cycle.
what the eff are you talking about
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 09:26:36 AM
Yeah this has definitely confirmed for me that I’m not a Democrat. Seems like a large part of that party is only excited about sweeping change rather than “let’s not eff up the country together” which was really my #1 priority this cycle.
I assumed this was everybodys priority this cycle and why I'm dumbfounded by any Trump vote.
Biden didn't represent a striking alternative, he says embarrassing crap out loud too.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 09:27:32 AM
Yeah this has definitely confirmed for me that I’m not a Democrat. Seems like a large part of that party is only excited about sweeping change rather than “let’s not eff up the country together” which was really my #1 priority this cycle.
what the eff are you talking about
Apparently he thinks liberals and conservatives should think exactly the same.
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 09:31:11 AM
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 09:32:03 AM
My post had nothing to do with BernieAfter the first debate plenty of people saw two equally bad options which is why it worried me so much.
I'm very doubtful Bernie would have won this election, could be wrong.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 09:34:09 AM
It's pretty mind boggling to look at who each party chose to run for president and think Democrats are the party interested in transformative change more than "not rough ridin' up"
Lol this.
But I think catastrophe is talking more about the party as a whole, not the candidates.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 09:35:26 AM
It's pretty mind boggling to look at who each party chose to run for president and think Democrats are the party interested in transformative change more than "not rough ridin' up"
Lol this.
But I think catastrophe is talking more about the party as a whole, not the candidates.
He's surprised that liberals are in fact liberal? Weird.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 09:36:42 AM
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 09:37:12 AM
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 09:37:15 AM
https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1324011731761336320
Post by: cfbandyman on November 04, 2020, 09:39:33 AM
Post by: Trim on November 04, 2020, 09:41:21 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 09:43:38 AM
Yeah, I mean I voted for Biden, who I thought won the nomination because democrats were singularly focused on beating Trump this cycle. So the Monday morning quarterbacking by progressives of “they should have seen this coming by promising to do nothing” makes no rough ridin' sense to me. Democrats literally rejected a dozen candidates more progressive than Biden.
I really don't get what your complaint is here. Is there anything the least bit controversial about the opinion Joe Biden isn't exactly the most inspirational and exciting choice that could have been made for liberals? Trump didn't run on a moderate platform, he ran on a staunchly conservative one and that energized his party. You didn't vote for him because he's a despicable human being, not because you are averse to conservatives. Liberals want to be excited for a liberal, mind blown.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 09:44:47 AM
The progressive take
https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1324011731761336320
Right!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2020, 09:48:02 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 09:49:04 AM
Populists are hard to beat.
Yeah, ask Hillary.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 09:57:01 AM
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 10:00:01 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 10:10:10 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 10:13:24 AM
https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1324004554485211136
that's fake news fyi
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 10:15:02 AM
Post by: waks on November 04, 2020, 10:15:46 AM
Post by: Cire on November 04, 2020, 10:18:00 AM
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Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 10:19:39 AM
Thank you SD
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you are welcome. I did this for all of you more than for myself.
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 10:20:36 AM
(https://www.270towin.com/maps/3AObP.png)
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 10:22:36 AM
is this an accurate depiction of where we're at right now?
(https://www.270towin.com/maps/3AObP.png)
yes
Post by: ChiComCat on November 04, 2020, 10:24:34 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 10:25:11 AM
From my rough estimate, Biden needs about 2/3 of the outstanding ballots to flip GA, PA or NC. If they're absentee/mail-in or mostly from the population centers, it's pretty doable. Of course, per mocat's map, he doesn't necessarily have to.
yeah, that's all just gravy
Post by: _33 on November 04, 2020, 10:26:00 AM
is this an accurate depiction of where we're at right now?
(https://www.270towin.com/maps/3AObP.png)
yes
Dang Maine is so pretty!
Post by: kim carnes on November 04, 2020, 10:27:04 AM
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 10:27:15 AM
Is trump actually going to sue to get the count stopped when he's behind in Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania?That’s basically what he threatened. I personally do not understand what the complaint would be assuming the votes are being counted as provided under each state’s laws. The federal government really has no say. The states can divvy their electoral votes however they want.
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 10:27:53 AM
This election is a moderates wet dreamSaid someone who is clearly not a moderate.
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 10:30:30 AM
I really don’t have a point beyond what I said. I struggle to identify with any party because they’re both just full of ludicrous people. It should have been so obvious for Dems to turn out just to get an immediate threat out of the WH. But sure griping about not having a social platform they could get excited about seems fun too.Yeah, I mean I voted for Biden, who I thought won the nomination because democrats were singularly focused on beating Trump this cycle. So the Monday morning quarterbacking by progressives of “they should have seen this coming by promising to do nothing” makes no rough ridin' sense to me. Democrats literally rejected a dozen candidates more progressive than Biden.
I really don't get what your complaint is here. Is there anything the least bit controversial about the opinion Joe Biden isn't exactly the most inspirational and exciting choice that could have been made for liberals? Trump didn't run on a moderate platform, he ran on a staunchly conservative one and that energized his party. You didn't vote for him because he's a despicable human being, not because you are averse to conservatives. Liberals want to be excited for a liberal, mind blown.
Post by: kim carnes on November 04, 2020, 10:34:11 AM
This election is a moderates wet dreamSaid someone who is clearly not a moderate.
Biden won presidency, republicans won senate. That is the best case scenario for moderates.
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 10:39:42 AM
Dang Maine is so pretty!
this time of year people go there just to look at their trees!
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 10:56:05 AM
I really don’t have a point beyond what I said. I struggle to identify with any party because they’re both just full of ludicrous people. It should have been so obvious for Dems to turn out just to get an immediate threat out of the WH. But sure griping about not having a social platform they could get excited about seems fun too.Yeah, I mean I voted for Biden, who I thought won the nomination because democrats were singularly focused on beating Trump this cycle. So the Monday morning quarterbacking by progressives of “they should have seen this coming by promising to do nothing” makes no rough ridin' sense to me. Democrats literally rejected a dozen candidates more progressive than Biden.
I really don't get what your complaint is here. Is there anything the least bit controversial about the opinion Joe Biden isn't exactly the most inspirational and exciting choice that could have been made for liberals? Trump didn't run on a moderate platform, he ran on a staunchly conservative one and that energized his party. You didn't vote for him because he's a despicable human being, not because you are averse to conservatives. Liberals want to be excited for a liberal, mind blown.
I don't think the people that didn't turn out are really a core part of the Democratic party. The party is basically what you want it to be.
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 10:58:21 AM
https://twitter.com/spettypi/status/1324031515307708424
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 11:03:30 AM
Facts, as evidence I present an Oct 26 text message convo where kk gets somewhat nsfw on his bernie takeThis election is a moderates wet dreamSaid someone who is clearly not a moderate.
Biden won presidency, republicans won senate. That is the best case scenario for moderates.
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Post by: DaBigTrain on November 04, 2020, 11:04:25 AM
a thing people don't talk about enough is this thing I can't quit talking about!:excited:
https://twitter.com/spettypi/status/1324031515307708424
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 11:08:06 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2020, 11:08:17 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2020, 11:14:13 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 04, 2020, 11:17:20 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 04, 2020, 11:33:04 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 11:35:31 AM
I was a civil, peaceful participant in the 2020 election.
Nice of you to visit :cheers:
Post by: GregKSU1027 on November 04, 2020, 11:38:06 AM
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Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2020, 11:42:51 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 11:43:38 AM
It’s looking like Wisconsin has been called. Michigan is next. Biden should win bof
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No one has called Wisconsin yet although that and Michigan are fait accompli. No one calling Alaska yet is really annoying to me.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2020, 11:45:28 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 04, 2020, 11:50:23 AM
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 11:51:46 AM
Yeah, I keep seeing that and thinking how hilarious it would be if Biden somehow pulled off Alaska.How the mightea have fallen
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 11:52:08 AM
I'm thinking GA is looking more and more like Biden.
I don't see how he doesn't win it.
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 12:01:38 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 12:04:50 PM
But Trump's lawyers are going to take the PA SC's insertion into PA's election process all the way to the SC if need be.
Particularly when it came to the allowance of illegible signatures and illegible postmarks as being good.
You'll probably still get your old white mega racist corrupt war monger and killer of hundreds of thousands of brown people elected, but this is far from over according to what I'm hearing and seeing.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2020, 12:06:03 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 04, 2020, 12:06:21 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 12:06:28 PM
Just letting you BidenVoters know, so you can have a total meltdown about it, just like you do everything else.
But Trump's lawyers are going to take the PA SC's insertion into PA's election process all the way to the SC if need be.
Particularly when it came to the allowance of illegible signatures and illegible postmarks as being good.
You probably still get your old white mega racist corrupt war monger and killer of hundreds of thousands of brown people elected, but this is far from over according to what I'm hearing and seeing.
sounds good dax, lmao
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 12:06:40 PM
tapped in Dax with "what he's hearing" :ROFL:
Jay Sekulow
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 04, 2020, 12:06:50 PM
Just letting you BidenVoters know, so you can have a total meltdown about it, just like you do everything else.
But Trump's lawyers are going to take the PA SC's insertion into PA's election process all the way to the SC if need be.
Particularly when it came to the allowance of illegible signatures and illegible postmarks as being good.
You'll probably still get your old white mega racist corrupt war monger and killer of hundreds of thousands of brown people elected, but this is far from over according to what I'm hearing and seeing.
Very Snowflakey
Post by: treysolid on November 04, 2020, 12:11:48 PM
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 04, 2020, 12:34:50 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2020, 12:35:13 PM
Just letting you BidenVoters know, so you can have a total meltdown about it, just like you do everything else.
But Trump's lawyers are going to take the PA SC's insertion into PA's election process all the way to the SC if need be.
Particularly when it came to the allowance of illegible signatures and illegible postmarks as being good.
You'll probably still get your old white mega racist corrupt war monger and killer of hundreds of thousands of brown people elected, but this is far from over according to what I'm hearing and seeing.
I'm sure the constitutional originalists Trump appointed will stick with their Federalist roots and uphold the rights of states to conduct their elections.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 04, 2020, 12:38:40 PM
I'm getting a lot of "Election Fraud!!!" vibes from my Maga acquaintances. Very meltdowny. one even said "The very soul of our republic is at stake!!". hahahahaha. STFU ASSHOLES
I have seen that as well, along with the Michigan votes change screenshot (which I'm 90% is either faked or from what I can tell on graphs, the upshot happens right over a bump in trumps so it covers it, but it's not exactly "138000 to 0" as they claim, as well as literally like 10 different accounts talking about moving to England, because England knows how to run a country, but it's the same literal post again and again.
Both highly enjoyable
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 12:38:56 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on November 04, 2020, 12:45:00 PM
Post by: nicname on November 04, 2020, 12:45:58 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 04, 2020, 12:47:04 PM
When your party and the political slugs that support Joe and oppose Trump are literally war gaming overthrowing a Trump electoral college victory.
Only an extreme simpleton buys the narrative that these are just a bunch of law firm interns being sent out into the field to check for hanging chads.
This is clearly way over your head :frown: :frown:
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 04, 2020, 12:49:18 PM
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 12:55:07 PM
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 12:55:52 PM
Yes, the right of the legislative body of states to conduct elections.I mean I think this is true when it comes to president isn’t it? I thought there was no federal requirement that states even have to vote their electoral votes based on how their citizens vote.
Just another reason to abolish the stupid thing.
Post by: _33 on November 04, 2020, 12:56:07 PM
I'm getting a lot of "Election Fraud!!!" vibes from my Maga acquaintances. Very meltdowny. one even said "The very soul of our republic is at stake!!". hahahahaha. STFU ASSHOLES
I thought the soul of our republic was only at stake if Trump won? Could the soul of our republic be at stake no matter who wins? Seems unlikely but you never know when the soul of your republic will be at stake iyam. #SoulOfOurRepublic
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 12:56:42 PM
what is nevada's problemThey talk about NV on the news like it’s a remedial state.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 12:56:54 PM
When your party and the political slugs that support Joe and oppose Trump are literally war gaming overthrowing a Trump electoral college victory.
Only an extreme simpleton buys the narrative that these are just a bunch of law firm interns being sent out into the field to check for hanging chads.
This is clearly way over your head :frown: :frown:
Nothing is confirmed. So anyone saying it’s made up doesn’t have the first rough ridin' clue if it is or not.
Post by: stunted on November 04, 2020, 12:57:59 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 12:59:20 PM
When your party and the political slugs that support Joe and oppose Trump are literally war gaming overthrowing a Trump electoral college victory.
Only an extreme simpleton buys the narrative that these are just a bunch of law firm interns being sent out into the field to check for hanging chads.
This is clearly way over your head :frown: :frown:
First of all, there's nothing factually incorrect about what I said, so I don't even have the first clue as to why you even brought it up.
Also note, no where did I say that Trump wasn't going to challenge anything.
Good grief, you're an intensely anal and confused human being.
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 01:02:37 PM
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324063433504051204
Post by: nicname on November 04, 2020, 01:07:00 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 01:10:17 PM
no more counting
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324063433504051204
meanwhile
https://twitter.com/dougducey/status/1324054428886867969
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 04, 2020, 01:13:47 PM
no more countingCounting is bad except when it is good:
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324063433504051204
[youtube]https://youtu.be/G1kfr3dLwF8[/youtube]
Post by: waks on November 04, 2020, 01:24:58 PM
What are some of the really gemmy texags/Rush gems out there today?Rush is running with the more people voted in Wisconsin than registered line.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 01:25:44 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on November 04, 2020, 01:28:32 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 04, 2020, 01:34:25 PM
On wisconsin. they finally called it. :Carl:Thanks, Greg.
Good to see you again.
:bracketmouse:
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 01:39:47 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 01:46:36 PM
Post by: DQ12 on November 04, 2020, 01:48:52 PM
I feel like Biden was sort of a concession to lots of non-MAGA pubs. Like, "here, we'll nominate a guy you can stomach voting for, so just go ahead and vote for him." And then, in the end, all but a handful of non-MAGA pubs were like, "nah, that's okay, we still want Trump!"Biden was the nominee because he got the most votes in the primaries.
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 01:50:39 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201104/c4d0dc99fa2364800a023342cee45591.jpg)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2020, 01:51:14 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 01:52:46 PM
I feel like Biden was sort of a concession to lots of non-MAGA pubs. Like, "here, we'll nominate a guy you can stomach voting for, so just go ahead and vote for him." And then, in the end, all but a handful of non-MAGA pubs were like, "nah, that's okay, we still want Trump!"Biden was the nominee because he got the most votes in the primaries.
I think what chum1 is saying is that he got the most votes because people voting thought he would appeal to non-maga republicans
Post by: waks on November 04, 2020, 01:53:54 PM
Marking waks down next to BidenVoter.7 as a Rush/Alex Jones super fan.Lmao you do what you want lunatic
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 01:55:06 PM
I feel like Biden was sort of a concession to lots of non-MAGA pubs. Like, "here, we'll nominate a guy you can stomach voting for, so just go ahead and vote for him." And then, in the end, all but a handful of non-MAGA pubs were like, "nah, that's okay, we still want Trump!"Biden was the nominee because he got the most votes in the primaries.
I think what chum1 is saying is that he got the most votes because people voting thought he would appeal to non-maga republicans
and obviously, lots of mainstream dems liked him.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 04, 2020, 01:55:21 PM
When your party and the political slugs that support Joe and oppose Trump are literally war gaming overthrowing a Trump electoral college victory.
Only an extreme simpleton buys the narrative that these are just a bunch of law firm interns being sent out into the field to check for hanging chads.
This is clearly way over your head :frown: :frown:
First of all, there's nothing factually incorrect about what I said, so I don't even have the first clue as to why you even brought it up.
Also note, no where did I say that Trump wasn't going to challenge anything.
Good grief, you're an intensely anal and confused human being.
I just thought it was funny at how Dem lawyers are trying to steal an election while Republican lawyers are staunch defenders of democracy.
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 01:56:11 PM
What are some of the really gemmy texags/Rush gems out there today?Rush is running with the more people voted in Wisconsin than registered line.
lol what is this
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 01:57:33 PM
What are some of the really gemmy texags/Rush gems out there today?Rush is running with the more people voted in Wisconsin than registered line.
lol what is this
Same day registration. Confuses pubs every election.
Post by: Trim on November 04, 2020, 02:00:23 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 04, 2020, 02:01:44 PM
I feel like Biden was sort of a concession to lots of non-MAGA pubs. Like, "here, we'll nominate a guy you can stomach voting for, so just go ahead and vote for him." And then, in the end, all but a handful of non-MAGA pubs were like, "nah, that's okay, we still want Trump!"Biden was the nominee because he got the most votes in the primaries.
Yes but I think he was aided by the other moderates dropping to prevent Bernie from winning in a more crowded field. I think Dem leadership wanted a more moderate candidate, saw what happened to the crowded Republican primaries with Trump, and had a drop-dead date for the moderate candidates to get in line. I don't have a problem with any of it or think it's unfair, but do think it was a coordinated effort by leadership
Post by: waks on November 04, 2020, 02:03:23 PM
Nope, they can't even use that excuse. The number of registered voters they're using is from the 2018 election.What are some of the really gemmy texags/Rush gems out there today?Rush is running with the more people voted in Wisconsin than registered line.
lol what is this
Same day registration. Confuses pubs every election.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wisconsin-more-votes-than-voters/ (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wisconsin-more-votes-than-voters/)
Post by: Brock Landers on November 04, 2020, 02:06:41 PM
What are some of the really gemmy texags/Rush gems out there today?Rush is running with the more people voted in Wisconsin than registered line.
Ha! Definitive proof of all those "my neighbor's dog just got a ballot application!!" stories. :D
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 02:09:15 PM
I feel like Biden was sort of a concession to lots of non-MAGA pubs. Like, "here, we'll nominate a guy you can stomach voting for, so just go ahead and vote for him." And then, in the end, all but a handful of non-MAGA pubs were like, "nah, that's okay, we still want Trump!"
Dems: Hey, here is someone who is very much not a socialist for you to vote for.
Pubs: No, thanks! We still prefer fascism!
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 02:14:48 PM
no more counting
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324063433504051204
i could be wrong here but if they stopped counting doesn't that mean it's an automatic biden win?
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 02:14:56 PM
no more countingBold strategy for the guy currently behind, let’s see if it pays off Collin.
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324063433504051204
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 02:15:29 PM
Smart Pubs: No thanks
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 02:21:50 PM
https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1324082248329646094
Post by: DQ12 on November 04, 2020, 02:22:49 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 02:23:06 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 02:27:40 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 02:28:32 PM
I for one am shocked that Republicans tended to vote for the Republican candidate.
They're voting for fascism. Literally. Among other awful things. I honestly did not know this about them.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2020, 02:29:41 PM
I for one am shocked that Republicans tended to vote for the Republican candidate.
They're voting for fascism. Literally. Among other awful things. I honestly did not know this about them.
I thought it's become readily apparent over the past 4 years.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 02:34:06 PM
Biden's almost 1000 lawyers will handle this nonsense
The :lol: is that you and your bro Slow Dug got so :curse: :curse: about that, and gosh it was "just" around 700 as I recall.
Post by: DQ12 on November 04, 2020, 02:35:07 PM
Yeah. Republicans voted for him 4 years ago too. If he happened to win the primary in 2024, guess what, yep, Republicans would likely vote for him again.I for one am shocked that Republicans tended to vote for the Republican candidate.
They're voting for fascism. Literally. Among other awful things. I honestly did not know this about them.
I thought it's become readily apparent over the past 4 years.
Post by: treysolid on November 04, 2020, 02:37:00 PM
The overwhelming majority of remaining counts for PA are in Allegheny (55-43 D-R), Chester (54-45 D-R), Delaware (60-39 D-R), Philadelphia (78-21 D-R), Lehigh (48-51 D-R), and Beaver (33-65 D-R).
Georgia is going to come down to Chatham, Dougherty, DeKalb, Richmond, and Clayton counties. I don't see Biden overcoming the 78k he needs to carry the state. He might get really close though (< 5k votes).
Same thing with NC, I don't see enough coming from Mecklenburg, Cumberland, Forsyth, and Orange counties to make up the 77k that Joe needs there.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 02:37:08 PM
I for one am shocked that Republicans tended to vote for the Republican candidate.
They're voting for fascism. Literally. Among other awful things. I honestly did not know this about them.
Yet Joe Biden was a part of administration that demonstrated a myriad of fascistic tendencies including: Domestic spying, spying on legislative bodies, spying on journalists and unilateral wars without the consent of the people or legislative bodies.
That's what makes your whole take on this :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2020, 02:37:15 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 02:38:33 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 02:41:00 PM
https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1324086031591886850
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 02:41:13 PM
I for one am shocked that Republicans tended to vote for the Republican candidate.
he got 90% of the republican vote in '16. after 4 years of being a historically unpopular president and now facing an objectively better candidate, he got 93% of the republican vote.*
*these are exit poll percentages i read somewhere earlier today
Post by: Trim on November 04, 2020, 02:43:07 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 02:46:12 PM
Lol
https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1324086031591886850
lmao
Post by: DQ12 on November 04, 2020, 02:47:36 PM
According to exit polls, he also did better among a number of different minority groups. People vote for a person for different reasons and in spite of different things.I for one am shocked that Republicans tended to vote for the Republican candidate.
he got 90% of the republican vote in '16. after 4 years of being a historically unpopular president and now facing an objectively better candidate, he got 93% of the republican vote.*
*these are exit poll percentages i read somewhere earlier today
Clearly, not everyone shares the belief that he is a fascist, racist despot. I'm not saying he isn't that, but it would be weird for him to have done better (according to exit polls) among different minority groups if everyone shared the belief that he was a fascist racist.
Post by: Cire on November 04, 2020, 02:48:48 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 02:49:56 PM
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1324062078731231233
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 02:51:41 PM
Democracy dies in the darkness . . . but only when we say it's dark (BidenVoter)
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 02:56:13 PM
Dems: Here, here's a guy who has been in Washington for 40 plus years and done nothing but get re-elected on a track record of incarcerating hundreds of thousands of young people of color, sending thousands of American's off to die in needless wars, repeatedly supporting spying on the American people, being a part of a machine that deported millions of people, is a darling of K-Street, and is clearly in bed with the Chinese Communists.Galaxy brain pubs: what if we only counted the Trump votes?
Smart Pubs: No thanks
Post by: treysolid on November 04, 2020, 03:13:26 PM
Post by: 8manpick on November 04, 2020, 03:16:29 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 03:18:24 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 04, 2020, 03:20:37 PM
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 03:21:11 PM
https://twitter.com/sarahmucha/status/1324098342398447617I think the lawsuits tell you as much as the projections do at this point. Trump expects to lose PA too.
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 03:21:27 PM
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1324098577455525888
Post by: CNS on November 04, 2020, 03:22:22 PM
you stop counting too. actually nobody count.
https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1324082248329646094
"The reason there are so many cases/votes, is because there are too many tests/counting"
It fits.
Post by: stunted on November 04, 2020, 03:27:41 PM
Biden giving a good speech right now
:driving:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 03:28:36 PM
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 03:30:36 PM
Jesus, how supressed is the vote in MO? I don't believe for a second that Jackson county has less than 350k registered voters. St. Louis county has a population north of a million and they only turn out 500k?
it's actually less than 250k registered voters (with an estimated total pop of 700k)
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 03:38:14 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 03:38:43 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 03:40:36 PM
:lol:
https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city
Post by: sys on November 04, 2020, 03:40:55 PM
It should have been so obvious for Dems to turn out just to get an immediate threat out of the WH. But sure griping about not having a social platform they could get excited about seems fun too.
keep in mind that while mir, who is not a democrat, is saying that people didn't turn out because they weren't excited by biden, the facts of the matter are that turnout % will very likely be the highest in over 100 years, and we can probably deduce from biden winning the popular vote that more of them turned out to vote for biden than to vote for trump.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 03:45:54 PM
They were extremely motivated in WI, so much so, in some wards, turnout was well above 100% of registered voters.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 03:46:19 PM
https://twitter.com/8NewsNow/status/1324093130103205888
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 03:48:25 PM
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Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 03:49:43 PM
And only 67k voted in the last mayoral election...
not all of kcmo is in jackson county and not all of jackson county is kcmo but yes your point remains
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 03:50:05 PM
Not even close.
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 03:50:14 PM
https://twitter.com/erictrump/status/1324088311644856327
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Post by: Karlen on November 04, 2020, 03:50:38 PM
Congrats to Ward 274 in Milw for that 202% voter turn out. Turn out the vote campaign really paid off.
:lol:
https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city
From their about us page
Quote
Metric Media was established to fill the void in community news after years of decline in local reporting by legacy media. This site is one of hundreds nationwide to inform citizens about news in their local communities.
The fact that it's that easy to dupe you. Just wow bud
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 03:51:46 PM
Congrats to Ward 274 in Milw for that 202% voter turn out. Turn out the vote campaign really paid off.
:lol:
https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city
From their about us pageQuoteMetric Media was established to fill the void in community news after years of decline in local reporting by legacy media. This site is one of hundreds nationwide to inform citizens about news in their local communities.
The fact that it's that easy to dupe you. Just wow bud
That doesn't mean crap, they went and analyzed the actual voting records. Good Grief. :lol:
*Source: Milwaukee County Clerk; Wisconsin Secretary of State
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 03:53:18 PM
Lmao
https://twitter.com/8NewsNow/status/1324093130103205888
what in the world
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 03:57:36 PM
And only 67k voted in the last mayoral election...
not all of kcmo is in jackson county and not all of jackson county is kcmo but yes your point remains
It was also in like April of an off election year so...
Still crazy to me.
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 03:59:06 PM
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Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2020, 04:01:16 PM
Congrats to Wisc for getting just under a 90% voter turnout. Up 22% from the 2016 election. Right at, oh, 5.5 standard deviations from the historical mean.
They were extremely motivated in WI, so much so, in some wards, turnout was well above 100% of registered voters.
Plz show your work
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 04, 2020, 04:03:02 PM
Fox News just cut off Rudy to call Michigan for Biden lmaoSo Nevada will decide it?
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Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 04:04:44 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324108200141082624
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 04:05:00 PM
I feel like Biden was sort of a concession to lots of non-MAGA pubs. Like, "here, we'll nominate a guy you can stomach voting for, so just go ahead and vote for him." And then, in the end, all but a handful of non-MAGA pubs were like, "nah, that's okay, we still want Trump!"
Dems: Hey, here is someone who is very much not a socialist for you to vote for.
Pubs: No, thanks! We still prefer fascism!
:)
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 04:07:37 PM
They did what?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324108200141082624
Like shotgun and tap tap seat back, claiming states is on a first come first served basis. Biden really dropped the ball here
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 04:08:32 PM
Congrats to Wisc for getting just under a 90% voter turnout. Up 22% from the 2016 election. Right at, oh, 5.5 standard deviations from the historical mean.
They were extremely motivated in WI, so much so, in some wards, turnout was well above 100% of registered voters.
Plz show your work
Lazy AF, SMDH
https://twitter.com/ChrisRaab3/status/1324076225606881283?s=20
https://twitter.com/nobbins2001/status/1324078983923658752?s=20
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 04:10:36 PM
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1324108208261210112
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 04:11:43 PM
a thing people don't talk about enough is this thing I can't quit talking about!
https://twitter.com/spettypi/status/1324031515307708424
https://twitter.com/aschrock/status/1324071351112491008
https://twitter.com/mistahzip/status/1324105287616270339
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 04:15:06 PM
It should have been so obvious for Dems to turn out just to get an immediate threat out of the WH. But sure griping about not having a social platform they could get excited about seems fun too.
keep in mind that while mir, who is not a democrat, is saying that people didn't turn out because they weren't excited by biden, the facts of the matter are that turnout % will very likely be the highest in over 100 years, and we can probably deduce from biden winning the popular vote that more of them turned out to vote for biden than to vote for trump.
GTFO, voting trump out of office does not equate to being excited to vote for Biden. He ran a campaign of no substance at all. Did ultimate difference between now and 4 years ago is that he got people who didn't want a shrill woman and he got just enough moderate pubs who are tired of trump's crap. Of all the moderate dems who ran for president Biden was far and away the worst choice, whose name is not Amy.
Texas, Florida, and possibly Georgia and North Carolina represent missed opportunities for dems, they won't see it that way though.
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 04:25:06 PM
They did what?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324108200141082624
https://twitter.com/annasproul/status/1324113652782374920
Post by: waks on November 04, 2020, 04:27:50 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 04:28:18 PM
cRusty Dork Factor: 12/10
Post by: Karlen on November 04, 2020, 04:30:40 PM
Congrats to Ward 274 in Milw for that 202% voter turn out. Turn out the vote campaign really paid off.
:lol:
https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city
From their about us pageQuoteMetric Media was established to fill the void in community news after years of decline in local reporting by legacy media. This site is one of hundreds nationwide to inform citizens about news in their local communities.
The fact that it's that easy to dupe you. Just wow bud
That doesn't mean crap, they went and analyzed the actual voting records. Good Grief. :lol:*Source: Milwaukee County Clerk; Wisconsin Secretary of State
First ward listed on your link says
ward 274 says 640 voters with 1290 votes cast. City says 702 voters and 611 votes cast.
ward 273 says 634 voters with 1272 votes cast. City says 671 voters and 612 votes cast.
How many of these do you need me to do for you
https://county.milwaukee.gov/EN/County-Clerk/Off-Nav/Election-Results/Election-Results-Fall-2020
Post by: waks on November 04, 2020, 04:32:25 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 04:37:19 PM
'grats bud
Post by: sys on November 04, 2020, 04:38:50 PM
GTFO, voting trump out of office does not equate to being excited to vote for Biden.
then your thesis that people need to be excited by a candidate or turnout will suffer is unsupported.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 04:45:45 PM
Congrats to Ward 274 in Milw for that 202% voter turn out. Turn out the vote campaign really paid off.
:lol:
https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city
From their about us pageQuoteMetric Media was established to fill the void in community news after years of decline in local reporting by legacy media. This site is one of hundreds nationwide to inform citizens about news in their local communities.
The fact that it's that easy to dupe you. Just wow bud
That doesn't mean crap, they went and analyzed the actual voting records. Good Grief. :lol:*Source: Milwaukee County Clerk; Wisconsin Secretary of State
First ward listed on your link says
ward 274 says 640 voters with 1290 votes cast. City says 702 voters and 611 votes cast.
ward 273 says 634 voters with 1272 votes cast. City says 671 voters and 612 votes cast.
How many of these do you need me to do for you
https://county.milwaukee.gov/EN/County-Clerk/Off-Nav/Election-Results/Election-Results-Fall-2020
Pretty amazing that Ward 274 apparently had a 87% voter turn out.
273 apparently had a 91% voter turn out
Very very motivated in those wards.
Post by: Karlen on November 04, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 04:48:01 PM
Thats all you got?
Congrats Karlen.
You seem fun.
Post by: waks on November 04, 2020, 04:48:10 PM
(https://www.metro.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/stephen-furst-flounder-animal-house.jpg)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 04:48:48 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 04:49:00 PM
GTFO, voting trump out of office does not equate to being excited to vote for Biden.
then your thesis that people need to be excited by a candidate or turnout will suffer is unsupported.
I mean I literally addressed that with the rest of that post. Attempting to win national and statewide elections without motivating and exciting parts of your base is a fools errand.
Moderate democrats are going to show up for a democratic presidential candidate who fights for the things like a $12 federal minimum wage, a path to citizenship, and a government health care option. The dems have now allowed the republicans to move their party in which these things are viewed as progressive.
Unfortunately, you'll find out in '22 and '24 when republicans continue to pump out conservatives to beat moderate dems, because the dems are more afraid of scaring white moderates than they are in energizing and expanding their base. Kamala won't get to run against trump, she'll actually need to stand for something.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 04:59:27 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 05:04:15 PM
GTFO, voting trump out of office does not equate to being excited to vote for Biden.
then your thesis that people need to be excited by a candidate or turnout will suffer is unsupported.
It seems any Dem candidate would garner huge numbers of anti-Trump voters, but someone who isn't speaking primarily to moderate republicans could garner more.
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 05:07:05 PM
:lol:They did what?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324108200141082624
https://twitter.com/annasproul/status/1324113652782374920
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 05:26:35 PM
GTFO, voting trump out of office does not equate to being excited to vote for Biden.
then your thesis that people need to be excited by a candidate or turnout will suffer is unsupported.
It seems any Dem candidate would garner huge numbers of anti-Trump voters, but someone who isn't speaking primarily to moderate republicans could garner more.
Pretty obvious, but I won't accuse sys of being insincere, I guess he's just really myopic.
Can't wait do to this all over again in 4 years when dems are selling Kamala by illustrating that she isn't Sarah Sanders, meanwhile Sanders is flying across the country selling border security, lower taxes, and law and order. Then dem pundits will be like "OMG WHY IS EVERYONE SO RACIST." While poor and underrepresented democrats are sitting at home, still left out of the entire process.
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 05:34:45 PM
https://twitter.com/nate_cohn/status/1324130040414720001
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Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 05:50:23 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 05:59:08 PM
You dumb moderate dems will keep focusing on trump instead of the fact that republicans are hugely reliably conservative. You incrementalists are far more harmful than conservatives.
I think this is the type of zeal that could one day lead to a strong progressive reliable voting coalition that pulls out Ws.
I know I'm losing my crap here but I'm frustrated because we keep doing the same crap over and over again and the democrats keep making excuses instead of fixing their party. Trump made gains with black men and hispanics because they are being completely left behind by democrats. Now I know trump and the republicans aren't actually interested in helping anyone out, the rhetoric is just for votes, but at this point a lot of people are in the place where they are saying, well, at least he's talking to us. Black men are leaving because democrats aren't giving them a reason to stay. Once republicans figure out the patriarchy thing, which I do think there is some movement there, dems will start to lose black women too. We've been warned about this for several cycles, this isn't new crap.
What frustrates me the most is that this isn't only a thing for black men and latin x, there is a large segment of poor and middle class white people out there voting trump who can be had if we gave people health care and a higher minimum wage. The democrats are rough ridin' cowards being led by people who are primarily interested in holding on to some modicum of the status quo. People were still voting yesterday when Nancy announced she's going to make deals with the pubs. I'm frustrated and tired of the dumb bullshit.
Post by: kim carnes on November 04, 2020, 06:06:28 PM
You dumb moderate dems will keep focusing on trump instead of the fact that republicans are hugely reliably conservative. You incrementalists are far more harmful than conservatives.
I think this is the type of zeal that could one day lead to a strong progressive reliable voting coalition that pulls out Ws.
I know I'm losing my crap here but I'm frustrated because we keep doing the same crap over and over again and the democrats keep making excuses instead of fixing their party. Trump made gains with black men and hispanics because they are being completely left behind by democrats. Now I know trump and the republicans aren't actually interested in helping anyone out, the rhetoric is just for votes, but at this point a lot of people are in the place where they are saying, well, at least he's talking to us. Black men are leaving because democrats aren't giving them a reason to stay. Once republicans figure out the patriarchy thing, which I do think there is some movement there, dems will start to lose black women too. We've been warned about this for several cycles, this isn't new crap.
What frustrates me the most is that this isn't only a thing for black men and latin x, there is a large segment of poor and middle class white people out there voting trump who can be had if we gave people health care and a higher minimum wage. The democrats are rough ridin' cowards being led by people who are primarily interested in holding on to some modicum of the status quo. People were still voting yesterday when Nancy announced she's going to make deals with the pubs. I'm frustrated and tired of the dumb bullshit.
Unfortunately you’re a little out of touch with reality, but fight on.
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 06:08:41 PM
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Post by: sys on November 04, 2020, 06:12:22 PM
It seems any Dem candidate would garner huge numbers of anti-Trump voters, but someone who isn't speaking primarily to moderate republicans could garner more.
only if you make the (rather odd) assumptions that 1) few anti-trump conservatives and moderates would change their vote or decline to vote for a candidate more at odds with them ideologically, and 2) many progressive voters are not also anti-trump.
fundamentally, i think the diagnosis that the race was closer than expected because a candidate that garnered the most votes in the country's history in an election with the highest turnout % in over a century because that candidate didn't turn out voters is probably off the mark.
Post by: sys on November 04, 2020, 06:15:05 PM
I mean I literally addressed that with the rest of that post. Attempting to win national and statewide elections without motivating and exciting parts of your base is a fools errand
yeah, i understand that you believed this prior to the election and would like to apply that belief to the current situation, but unfortunately the facts of the most recent election are at odds with this hypothesis.
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 06:22:27 PM
https://twitter.com/courtneydbryant/status/1324139665285328899
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Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 06:29:01 PM
It seems any Dem candidate would garner huge numbers of anti-Trump voters, but someone who isn't speaking primarily to moderate republicans could garner more.
only if you make the (rather odd) assumptions that 1) few anti-trump conservatives and moderates would change their vote or decline to vote for a candidate more at odds with them ideologically, and 2) many progressive voters are not also anti-trump.
fundamentally, i think the diagnosis that the race was closer than expected because a candidate that garnered the most votes in the country's history in an election with the highest turnout % in over a century because that candidate didn't turn out voters is probably off the mark.
yeah I hear ya, although I think the dem candidate could have been slightly more progressive and lost very few never-trump moderates
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 04, 2020, 06:33:02 PM
All that uptick in minority voting for Trump really must have spooked the, "the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." (Direct Quote)
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 06:35:11 PM
Trump team just called GA for Biden too. This election result is going to be reasonably close to what the forecast maps called for
https://twitter.com/courtneydbryant/status/1324139665285328899
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I like to imagine Trump seeing his lead dwindle on television and being like, "MAKE IT STOP! STOP THE COUNTING!!! DO SOMETHING!!!"
Post by: cfbandyman on November 04, 2020, 06:39:04 PM
Drumpf team just called GA for Biden too. This election result is going to be reasonably close to what the forecast maps called for
https://twitter.com/courtneydbryant/status/1324139665285328899
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I like to imagine Drumpf seeing his lead dwindle on television and being like, "MAKE IT STOP! STOP THE COUNTING!!! DO SOMETHING!!!"
Lol it is that 100%. Him losing his crap is like half this fun
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2020, 06:40:30 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 04, 2020, 06:46:02 PM
Way more fun than when he wanted to stop counting covid cases
Goes without saying. In general, if Biden does indeed pull it off, which it looks like, his meltdown will be epic and I will be there for every minute of it.
Post by: wiley on November 04, 2020, 06:46:50 PM
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Post by: kstater on November 04, 2020, 06:52:56 PM
Also a chance he ends with 306 which is more than Trumps 304 over Clinton and that is going to ENRAGE trump.I need this to happen now.
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Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 07:10:08 PM
Post by: treysolid on November 04, 2020, 07:11:34 PM
Post by: treysolid on November 04, 2020, 07:47:18 PM
Trump team just called GA for Biden too. This election result is going to be reasonably close to what the forecast maps called for
https://twitter.com/courtneydbryant/status/1324139665285328899
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Trump's lead is 40k and there are still ~168k ballots to be counted between Fulton, DeKalb, Clayton, Richmond, Bibb, Muscogee, Dougherty, and Chatham counties. All those are blue with Joe getting ~69-70% of the vote. Conservatively, that points to Joe picking up an additional 64k votes.
So, I wouldn't be shocked to see GA turn blue.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 07:52:55 PM
I mean I literally addressed that with the rest of that post. Attempting to win national and statewide elections without motivating and exciting parts of your base is a fools errand
yeah, i understand that you believed this prior to the election and would like to apply that belief to the current situation, but unfortunately the facts of the most recent election are at odds with this hypothesis.
NO! YOUR BIASED INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA IS WRONG, NOT MY BIASED INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 07:55:53 PM
Trump team just called GA for Biden too. This election result is going to be reasonably close to what the forecast maps called for
https://twitter.com/courtneydbryant/status/1324139665285328899
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Trump's lead is 40k and there are still ~168k ballots to be counted between Fulton, DeKalb, Clayton, Richmond, Bibb, Muscogee, Dougherty, and Chatham counties. All those are blue with Joe getting ~69-70% of the vote. Conservatively, that points to Joe picking up an additional 64k votes.
So, I wouldn't be shocked to see GA turn blue.
Me and my buddy @ChiComCat have been telling all of you for the last 24 hours that Biden would win Georgia.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2020, 07:57:48 PM
https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1324147954710650881
Post by: sys on November 04, 2020, 07:58:07 PM
NO! YOUR BIASED INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA IS WRONG, NOT MY BIASED INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA
i don't believe i've offered an interpretation (other than a critique of yours).
are you asking me to believe that if bernie sanders had won the nomination and defeated trump with the highest turnout in a century you would look at that result and say "well eff, i really thought voters would turn out to support a clear-voiced candidate offering bold progressive solutions. guess i was wrong."
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 08:12:47 PM
NO! YOUR BIASED INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA IS WRONG, NOT MY BIASED INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA
i don't believe i've offered an interpretation (other than a critique of yours).
are you asking me to believe that if bernie sanders had won the nomination and defeated trump with the highest turnout in a century you would look at that result and say "well eff, i really thought voters would turn out to support a clear-voiced candidate offering bold progressive solutions. guess i was wrong."
I mean you have offered an opinion on it, you've argued against every point I've made.
I actually have never said a word about Bernie, I'm not willing to say with any conviction that he would have beaten trump. I'm pretty sure he could have, I think almost anybody could have but I'm not certain.
Anyway bringing up Bernie here is precisely my point. Democrats need to stop thinking that if we don't get someone who is an extension of Obama/Bush/Clinton then the alternative has to be Bernie Sanders. There is a wide gulf between do nothing and doing the most. Like I said in the President Biden thread, I'll hold out hope that he'll try to do something other than keeping the line moving, but his work will need to start on capitol hill.
Post by: sys on November 04, 2020, 08:36:39 PM
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1319972981804859394
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 09:28:05 PM
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Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 09:33:19 PM
https://twitter.com/kyunglahcnn/status/1324188580642607110
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Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 09:33:40 PM
Need a legal beagle to vet this big brain stratWell not knowing anything about the law I can tell you what she’s saying don’t make no got damn sense.
https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1324147954710650881
Post by: waks on November 04, 2020, 09:34:37 PM
Post by: wiley on November 04, 2020, 09:38:25 PM
So, verdict on whether or not to be worried about Arizona?I mean if they seige the facility and burn it to the ground Biden wins.
But from my small amount of research Trump would have to win 59-41(%) of the remaining votes and alot of them come from Democrat leaning counties.
But until it's counted, hard to tell, but i assume it'll be close.
I think another update is coming in the next 30 mins.
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Post by: Trim on November 04, 2020, 09:42:48 PM
Post by: Gooch on November 04, 2020, 09:54:04 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 04, 2020, 09:54:45 PM
NO! YOUR BIASED INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA IS WRONG, NOT MY BIASED INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA
i don't believe i've offered an interpretation (other than a critique of yours).
are you asking me to believe that if bernie sanders had won the nomination and defeated trump with the highest turnout in a century you would look at that result and say "well eff, i really thought voters would turn out to support a clear-voiced candidate offering bold progressive solutions. guess i was wrong."
I mean you have offered an opinion on it, you've argued against every point I've made.
I actually have never said a word about Bernie, I'm not willing to say with any conviction that he would have beaten trump. I'm pretty sure he could have, I think almost anybody could have but I'm not certain.
Anyway bringing up Bernie here is precisely my point. Democrats need to stop thinking that if we don't get someone who is an extension of Obama/Bush/Clinton then the alternative has to be Bernie Sanders. There is a wide gulf between do nothing and doing the most. Like I said in the President Biden thread, I'll hold out hope that he'll try to do something other than keeping the line moving, but his work will need to start on capitol hill.
Dude you aren’t even a democrat and you’re here losing your mind that the entire democratic party isn’t allowing itself to be co-opted by a small percentage of people like yourself.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 10:09:40 PM
NO! YOUR BIASED INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA IS WRONG, NOT MY BIASED INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA
i don't believe i've offered an interpretation (other than a critique of yours).
are you asking me to believe that if bernie sanders had won the nomination and defeated trump with the highest turnout in a century you would look at that result and say "well eff, i really thought voters would turn out to support a clear-voiced candidate offering bold progressive solutions. guess i was wrong."
I mean you have offered an opinion on it, you've argued against every point I've made.
I actually have never said a word about Bernie, I'm not willing to say with any conviction that he would have beaten trump. I'm pretty sure he could have, I think almost anybody could have but I'm not certain.
Anyway bringing up Bernie here is precisely my point. Democrats need to stop thinking that if we don't get someone who is an extension of Obama/Bush/Clinton then the alternative has to be Bernie Sanders. There is a wide gulf between do nothing and doing the most. Like I said in the President Biden thread, I'll hold out hope that he'll try to do something other than keeping the line moving, but his work will need to start on capitol hill.
Dude you aren’t even a democrat and you’re here losing your mind that the entire democratic party isn’t allowing itself to be co-opted by a small percentage of people like yourself.
You don't know how to rough ridin' read, stop quoting me, dude.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 10:13:51 PM
Need a legal beagle to vet this big brain stratWell not knowing anything about the law I can tell you what she’s saying don’t make no got damn sense.
https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1324147954710650881
FWIW, Pennsylvania are counting these votes that arrive on the 4th-6th, but they are keeping them split out, just in case they lose a legal challenge.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 10:30:14 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/opinion/election-2020-exit-polls.html#click=https://t.co/zxEICoIszb
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A larger percentage of every racial minority voted for Trump this year than in 2016. Among Blacks and Hispanics, this percentage grew among both men and women, although men were more likely to vote for Trump than women.
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The fascinating story and movement are in the Black vote. Black people vote overwhelmingly for Democratic candidates. Black women vote more reliably Democratic than Black men — only 3 or 4 percent of Black women voted for the Republican candidate in 2008, 2012 and 2016. However, Donald Trump doubled that number this year, winning 8 percent of Black women’s votes.
Black men on the other hand have been inching away from the Democrats in recent elections, and continued that drift in this election. In 2008, 5 percent of Black men voted for John McCain; in 2012, 11 percent voted for Mitt Romney; in 2016, 13 percent voted for Trump; and, this year 18 percent voted for Trump.
These men were specifically targeted by the Trump campaign, and that targeting may well have worked. Democrats are going to have to pour some energy into specifics listening to and understanding these Black men. They are still the least likely group of men to vote Republican, but this trend away from Democrats is undeniable at this point.
Who cares about all that when there's so many kim carnes' out there.
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Not only did a majority of white men vote for Trump, so did a majority of white women. In 2016, exit polls also showed that a majority of white women had done so, but later an analysis of validated voters by the Pew Research Center found that a plurality of white women voted for Trump, not a majority.
In any case, white women vote for Trump at higher rates than all other women, despite the fact that Trump has spent his first term, indeed his whole life, denigrating women.
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This one pushed me back on my heels: the percentage of L.G.B.T. people voting for Trump doubled from 2016, moving from 14 percent to 28 percent. In Georgia the number was 33 percent.
Keep shrinking that base, I'm sure The Lincoln Project will always be there to bail the dems out.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 04, 2020, 11:16:10 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 11:19:09 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 11:25:22 PM
Post by: Katpappy on November 04, 2020, 11:31:39 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 04, 2020, 11:34:18 PM
Why did Biden do so poorly with blacks compared to past elections? The narrative during the primaries was centered on how well he did with them. Did he just give up on them after the primaries?
Didn’t Biden put a lot of black dudes in jail for drug crimes?
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 11:39:56 PM
Yes, but it didn't seem to hurt him in the primaries at allWhy did Biden do so poorly with blacks compared to past elections? The narrative during the primaries was centered on how well he did with them. Did he just give up on them after the primaries?
Didn’t Biden put a lot of black dudes in jail for drug crimes?
Post by: puniraptor on November 05, 2020, 01:42:20 AM
What would this election look like if every state followed Nebraska rules?
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 06:32:22 AM
Thought experiment for algo/map nerds:
What would this election look like if every state followed Nebraska rules?
This is probably easier to calculate than you think (if you make the assumption each representative won by each party equals the prez vote in a district as well, which is fairly true, just not always):
House of Reps Seats won by a party + 2*States won by that party.
So at last count I see for examples dems won 208 seats in the house (still not done there) and 22 states + DC
Meaning 208 + 2*23 = .... 254. Right more or less where we are
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 06:40:31 AM
Pf course, if Biden wins any state overall (NV, GA, AZ, NC, etc) that shrinks it by 2 each time.
I'm sure it changes it some, and it definitely would made district races much more interesting as hardly any state is lockstep one or the other, and you'd at least feel like you got the power over a national election in more local ways.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 06:55:13 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 06:59:30 AM
Joe Biden is the poster boy for incarceration nation (and by proxy deportation nation). Dems have now put two old white mega racists on the presidential ballot in 4 years. Joe was in lockstep with Hillary “dog whistle” Clinton aka Mrs. We Will Bring Them to Heel.Why did Biden do so poorly with blacks compared to past elections? The narrative during the primaries was centered on how well he did with them. Did he just give up on them after the primaries?
Didn’t Biden put a lot of black dudes in jail for drug crimes?
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 07:39:04 AM
Straight up LOL’ing at BidenVoter having the vapors over some protesters.
Everybody is literally laughing at them and how idiotic their protest is.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 07:54:56 AM
That wasn’t the point, dummy. With that said, it’s really no different then making fun of white upper middle class kids hiding behind their mommies on the mean streets of Portland.Straight up LOL’ing at BidenVoter having the vapors over some protesters.
Everybody is literally laughing at them and how idiotic their protest is.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 08:02:16 AM
That wasn’t the point, dummy. With that said, it’s really no different then making fun of white upper middle class kids hiding behind their mommies on the mean streets of Portland.Straight up LOL’ing at BidenVoter having the vapors over some protesters.
Everybody is literally laughing at them and how idiotic their protest is.
STOP COUNTING...wait KEEP COUNTING.
It's not amazing at all that Trump voters that would actually go out to where votes are being counted don't understand voting at all. Can't wait to see them banished back to the back halls of the internet without their leader to give them the oxygen.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 08:05:28 AM
That’s the kind of enraged mini screed that I enjoy from one of our resident CoronaBro’s.That wasn’t the point, dummy. With that said, it’s really no different then making fun of white upper middle class kids hiding behind their mommies on the mean streets of Portland.Straight up LOL’ing at BidenVoter having the vapors over some protesters.
Everybody is literally laughing at them and how idiotic their protest is.
STOP COUNTING...wait KEEP COUNTING.
It's not amazing at all that Trump voters that would actually go out to where votes are being counted don't understand voting at all. Can't wait to see them banished back to the back halls of the internet without their leader to give them the oxygen.
On my last post I forgot to add: on the mean streets of Portland . . . burning down black owned businesses.
Apologies for the omission.
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 08:08:55 AM
https://twitter.com/C_Barraud/status/1324348883519025152
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 08:16:35 AM
big boy has logged on
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 08:18:15 AM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 08:29:01 AM
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/clout/philadelphia-democratic-party-2020-election-street-money-20200207.html
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 08:47:15 AM
https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1324360688576483329
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 08:52:43 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 08:58:12 AM
Grats to fake centrists and BidenVoters for having your little henchman racist war mongers being able to move about freely with little to no press scrutiny. Quid pro quo's, shakedowns, and bombing without the pesky media asking questions.
YOU can be that media. Please hold their feet to the fire Dax. We're counting on you.
As I announced months ago I'll be retiring from the pit once Donald J Trump leaves the White House.
Post by: Brock Landers on November 05, 2020, 09:01:54 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 09:03:18 AM
Grats to fake centrists and BidenVoters for having your little henchman racist war mongers being able to move about freely with little to no press scrutiny. Quid pro quo's, shakedowns, and bombing without the pesky media asking questions.
YOU can be that media. Please hold their feet to the fire Dax. We're counting on you.
As I announced months ago I'll be retiring from the pit once Donald J Trump leaves the White House.
Phil, here's to the next round of kids in cages pics being archived (again) until the next Pub gets elected POTUS.
I've always had you pegged as q quitter, Phil. Besides, you'll have the kind of old white racist (back) in the White House that a good Lib like you can really get behind (again).
SMDH
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 09:04:09 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 05, 2020, 09:06:24 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 09:06:51 AM
On point, on brand.
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 09:07:33 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 09:08:53 AM
Yea definitely not over, need more lawsuits.
If there's one thing we know, Dems have never filed lawsuits on elections and certainly had no plans to do so now (or in the future).
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 09:10:18 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 09:13:01 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 09:14:33 AM
On brand
Post by: mocat on November 05, 2020, 09:19:13 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 09:30:14 AM
less optimistic about AZ and GA rn
AZ is still called on my sites like Bloomberg
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2020, 09:33:00 AM
less optimistic about AZ and GA rn
Yes. Earlier this morning MSNBC flipped it back from Blue to Toss-Up. Not sure why anyone is calling AZ right now. Trump has a great chance.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 05, 2020, 09:33:06 AM
When do we hear about Nevada? What are those guys doing? Count your votes and end the suspense.less optimistic about AZ and GA rn
AZ is still called on my sites like Bloomberg
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 09:34:11 AM
When do we hear about Nevada? What are those guys doing? Count your votes and end the suspense.less optimistic about AZ and GA rn
AZ is still called on my sites like Bloomberg
10am central update I thought I saw
Post by: mocat on November 05, 2020, 09:35:51 AM
less optimistic about AZ and GA rn
Yes. Earlier this morning MSNBC flipped it back from Blue to Toss-Up. Not sure why anyone is calling AZ right now. Trump has a great chance.
yes. AZ is the reverse of the rest of the remaining close states. they counted mail-ins first, and are now tallying in-person votes, which mostly favor Trump.
Biden is gaining in GA, but from what i read this morning, he seems to be running out of votes left to count
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 05, 2020, 09:36:21 AM
:impatient:When do we hear about Nevada? What are those guys doing? Count your votes and end the suspense.less optimistic about AZ and GA rn
AZ is still called on my sites like Bloomberg
10am central update I thought I saw
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 09:38:43 AM
less optimistic about AZ and GA rn
Yes. Earlier this morning MSNBC flipped it back from Blue to Toss-Up. Not sure why anyone is calling AZ right now. Trump has a great chance.
yes. AZ is the reverse of the rest of the remaining close states. they counted mail-ins first, and are now tallying in-person votes, which mostly favor Trump.
Biden is gaining in GA, but from what i read this morning, he seems to be running out of votes left to count
AZ is all mail in from Monday and Tuesday. They finished in person votes a long time ago. At least that's what the SOS said last night
Post by: mocat on November 05, 2020, 09:39:19 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2020, 09:41:55 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 05, 2020, 09:44:28 AM
GA reporting 61k votes left to count. Biden behind by 19k.
That seems a little more doable than what I thought it was.
Not sure how many votes need to be cured in GA but I would assume those would lean Dem give the trends of absentee voting. Estimates are a relatively small number but GA looks like it will be won by the slimmest of margins.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 09:44:37 AM
GA reporting 61k votes left to count. Biden behind by 19k.
70% for Biden isn't out of reach based on what's remaining. Let's add some extra frosting onto this cake.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 05, 2020, 09:46:18 AM
GA reporting 61k votes left to count. Biden behind by 19k.I'm bad at math. He would need 40k (approx 66%) to close the gap?
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 09:47:46 AM
https://twitter.com/tripgabriel/status/1324374362561126401
Post by: ChiComCat on November 05, 2020, 09:49:46 AM
GA reporting 61k votes left to count. Biden behind by 19k.I'm bad at math. He would need 40k (approx 66%) to close the gap?
Yeah, which is pretty consistent with what he's getting but there's not a lot of margin for error with that.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2020, 09:53:02 AM
GA reporting 61k votes left to count. Biden behind by 19k.I'm bad at math. He would need 40k (approx 66%) to close the gap?
Yeah, which is pretty consistent with what he's getting but there's not a lot of margin for error with that.
Correct. This state will definitely do a recount. If Biden pulls this off, it will be by under 5k votes.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2020, 09:54:41 AM
Post by: mocat on November 05, 2020, 09:56:57 AM
These motherfuckers lmao
https://twitter.com/tripgabriel/status/1324374362561126401
effing yinzers
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 10:02:27 AM
My prediction as of right now is Biden gets AZ, NV, PA. Trump still gets GA.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 10:05:20 AM
These motherfuckers lmao
https://twitter.com/tripgabriel/status/1324374362561126401
effing yinzers
This reinforces to me a tweet I saw earlier of what is making this go even slower, given the impending threat of litigation, they (the vote counters) are documenting the living hell out of everything and doing as much as they can to do things as by the book as possible, so the court cases will be a walk (for whoever wins).
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 10:10:38 AM
CNN saying Biden expecting to win PA by a sizeable margin. Down 165k votes :horrorsurprise:
My prediction as of right now is Biden gets AZ, NV, PA. Drumpf still gets GA.
I think GA weirdly goes for Biden given that it's 61k now, and trump does enough to get back AZ, or at least as close that GA will be.
Honestly, in terms of lending credence to the "count all the votes" I'd be 1000000% down with GA and PA ending up Biden and AZ going trump, if anything cause it'll hurt his "count here, but stop here!" crap. It'll show it wasn't "rigged" (cause it isn't) how could it be "rigged" if you got the benefit over there? I know it won't ultimately matter in the maga eyes, but who cares about them.
And yes, when it comes to PA, I saw Nate Cohn (I think) say something like 500k votes came in for Biden, and it was over 75-25 Biden, with like 600k to go. It seems pretty likely Biden wins PA by >100k. Just have to "get there"
The only thing about PA though is that I have seen 3 different #s in outstanding, 500k, 600k, and 730k. Even at 500k it's probably going Biden by a decent margin, I just wish we knew exactly what it was.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 10:12:47 AM
GA reporting 61k votes left to count. Biden behind by 19k.I'm bad at math. He would need 40k (approx 66%) to close the gap?
Yeah, which is pretty consistent with what he's getting but there's not a lot of margin for error with that.
Correct. This state will definitely do a recount. If Biden pulls this off, it will be by under 5k votes.
Yeah, which I think is how it's going to end up. I think Biden pulls it off by about 3k.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 10:16:27 AM
https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1324378982272434177
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 10:21:13 AM
Post by: mocat on November 05, 2020, 10:21:41 AM
Post by: MadCat on November 05, 2020, 10:23:29 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 10:29:26 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2020, 10:37:35 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 05, 2020, 10:39:30 AM
If Biden does end up winning AZ, the margin of difference between Biden vs Trump win is Trump's treatment of McCain.Do you really think so? Most MAGAs I talk with revel in Trump's treatment of McCain.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2020, 10:43:15 AM
If Biden does end up winning AZ, the margin of difference between Biden vs Trump win is Trump's treatment of McCain.Do you really think so? Most MAGAs I talk with revel in Trump's treatment of McCain.
Sure...for MAGAs that don't live in AZ. McCain was the voice of Republicans in Arizona for 30 years. I think Trump easily takes AZ if he would have made some type of amends with the McCain family. He may have not directly received the McCain's support after making amends, but voters would have seen it as an effort.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 10:43:41 AM
Nothing better than the president using terms like "stealing election" for simply counting votes. Thanks for this piece of garage attacking our democracy Dax
I think it's called lawful votes, Phil.
No surprise that a hyper-partisan straight liner who will vote for any POS as long as they have a (D) next to their name would have this take.
This piled on 4 years of hyper-partisan shills like Phil believing anything and everything relative to topics like Russia, no matter how insane. The perfect useful idiot for Vlad Putin's disinfo campaigns.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2020, 10:44:42 AM
If Biden does end up winning AZ, the margin of difference between Biden vs Trump win is Trump's treatment of McCain.Do you really think so? Most MAGAs I talk with revel in Trump's treatment of McCain.
Sure...for MAGAs that don't live in AZ. McCain was the voice of Republicans in Arizona for 30 years. I think Trump easily takes AZ if he would have made some type of amends with the McCain family. He may have not directly received the McCain's support after making amends, but voters would have seen it as an effort.
Also Biden had a good relationship with McCain and marketed that pretty good during the DNC.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 10:47:58 AM
If Biden does end up winning AZ, the margin of difference between Biden vs Trump win is Trump's treatment of McCain.Do you really think so? Most MAGAs I talk with revel in Trump's treatment of McCain.
Sure...for MAGAs that don't live in AZ. McCain was the voice of Republicans in Arizona for 30 years. I think Trump easily takes AZ if he would have made some type of amends with the McCain family. He may have not directly received the McCain's support after making amends, but voters would have seen it as an effort.
Also Biden had a good relationship with McCain and marketed that pretty good during the DNC.
Multi-decade DC insider war mongers stick together.
Obama-Biden couldn't have had a greater friend relative to their insanity in places like Syria then John McCain.
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 11:13:26 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 05, 2020, 11:15:59 AM
These motherfuckers lmao
https://twitter.com/tripgabriel/status/1324374362561126401
effing yinzers
This reinforces to me a tweet I saw earlier of what is making this go even slower, given the impending threat of litigation, they (the vote counters) are documenting the living hell out of everything and doing as much as they can to do things as by the book as possible, so the court cases will be a walk (for whoever wins).
Per CNN:
24 min ago
Pennsylvania's Allegheny County will not count remaining ballots until Friday
From CNN's Kate Bolduan
Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, will not count anymore ballots until tomorrow because of a court agreement over some 29,000 disputed ballots, according to County Councilwoman Bethany Hallam.
The agreement stems from a legal challenge over misprinted ballots that had to be reissued to some voters. The county agreed not to count the potential pool of reprinted ballots until Nov. 6 at 5 p.m. ET – the deadline for receiving mail-in votes that were sent by Election Day.
Allegheny County poll workers will not be counting today because the bulk of the remaining pool of ballots in the county are the disputed pile.
“There is nothing malicious going on here,” Hallam said. “It is frustrating that there isn’t more information of what they are actually doing today,” she added.
CNN is seeking comment from the county.
“The Elections Division staff will be using the day to do administrative work,” according to an internal county communication obtained by CNN.
They will resume counting on Friday.
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 11:20:33 AM
Why did Biden do so poorly with blacks compared to past elections? The narrative during the primaries was centered on how well he did with them. Did he just give up on them after the primaries?
primary support means almost nothing for general support. they are different pools of voters.
Post by: Cire on November 05, 2020, 11:23:06 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 05, 2020, 11:30:52 AM
https://twitter.com/ej11lizzie/status/1324218622751830019
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 11:49:27 AM
https://twitter.com/nxthompson/status/1324404107290021888
Post by: Brock Landers on November 05, 2020, 11:57:24 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 05, 2020, 12:19:30 PM
I'd love it if the call for Nevada came in at the same time Hannity's show is on.I'm aroused now.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 12:26:49 PM
CNN saying Biden expecting to win PA by a sizeable margin. Down 165k votes :horrorsurprise:
My prediction as of right now is Biden gets AZ, NV, PA. Drumpf still gets GA.
114k now
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 12:27:03 PM
https://twitter.com/WisVoter/status/1324415533303926786
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 12:28:22 PM
https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/1324415080226643971
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 12:28:53 PM
they count mail in ballots that arrive on or before the 6th and since no one can know exactly how many will arrive tomorrow, it's easy to not call the race, even if biden builds a substantial lead today.
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 12:30:22 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 12:41:35 PM
dax, are you still doing your wisconsin turnout fraud thing or has that passed?
https://twitter.com/WisVoter/status/1324415533303926786
It was discussed Steve.
There are other people claiming to have vote in person only to look on line and the state says they voted absentee weeks before.
One thing for sure, we can not look into these. Of course, if the situation was flipped, ChiCom Joe would be marching in an army of lawyers and multiple U.S. cities would be burning to the ground. As it now, they're still rioting and Biden is winning.
Post by: Cire on November 05, 2020, 12:41:58 PM
Michael Cooper, in New York 26m ago
With Biden slowly making gains in three key states, Trump issued a written statement, in all capital letters, making baseless claims that there could be fraud in the late votes.
lmao
Post by: Cire on November 05, 2020, 12:43:55 PM
dax, are you still doing your wisconsin turnout fraud thing or has that passed?
https://twitter.com/WisVoter/status/1324415533303926786
It was discussed Steve.
There are other people claiming to have vote in person only to look on line and the state says they voted absentee weeks before.
One thing for sure, we can not look into these. Of course, if the situation was flipped, ChiCom Joe would be marching in an army of lawyers and multiple U.S. cities would be burning to the ground. As it now, they're still rioting and Biden is winning.
I'm certain that you and the people you follow on twitter will get to the bottom of this soon.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 12:45:24 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 12:52:56 PM
Post by: waks on November 05, 2020, 12:53:42 PM
She had a few peoplefifykilledsuicided I believe but no suits
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 01:00:34 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 01:04:26 PM
Post by: Pete on November 05, 2020, 01:10:46 PM
Still time to lock her up before Inauguration Day
Biden would pardon her, but she'd still have to do some Roger Stone time.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 01:13:52 PM
CNN saying Biden expecting to win PA by a sizeable margin. Down 165k votes :horrorsurprise:
My prediction as of right now is Biden gets AZ, NV, PA. Drumpf still gets GA.
114k now
Close to 111k now
The PA vote is like a slow death march for the trump reelection
Post by: mocat on November 05, 2020, 01:15:48 PM
Hill preferred suits of the pant variety
:users: :users: :users: :users:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 01:23:10 PM
A fine and very corrupt Southern Democratic gentleman.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 05, 2020, 01:34:25 PM
less optimistic about AZ and GA rn
Yes. Earlier this morning MSNBC flipped it back from Blue to Toss-Up. Not sure why anyone is calling AZ right now. Trump has a great chance.
MSNBC has never had Arizona blue and they've been adamant about it. I've watched probably nothing but MSNBC & FNC for like 40 of the last 48 hours.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 05, 2020, 01:40:08 PM
How many states did HillDog sue?
Jill Stein sued Wisconsin for her.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 05, 2020, 01:41:29 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 01:42:31 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 05, 2020, 01:45:27 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 01:48:38 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 01:51:37 PM
CNN saying Biden expecting to win PA by a sizeable margin. Down 165k votes :horrorsurprise:
My prediction as of right now is Biden gets AZ, NV, PA. Drumpf still gets GA.
114k now
Close to 111k now
The PA vote is like a slow death march for the trump reelection
Below 109k now. It's like each update is roughly closing the gap by 2.5k-3k
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 05, 2020, 02:15:31 PM
dax, are you still doing your wisconsin turnout fraud thing or has that passed?
https://twitter.com/WisVoter/status/1324415533303926786
I literally still have magas telling me "4 am dump/Wisconsin 65,000 votes, 100% for Biden. - 4 am dump/Michigan 138,499 cotes 100% for Biden" like this is in anyway accurate.
I could tweet ANYTHING and have it believed.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 02:18:00 PM
dax, are you still doing your wisconsin turnout fraud thing or has that passed?
https://twitter.com/WisVoter/status/1324415533303926786
I literally still have magas telling me "4 am dump/Wisconsin 65,000 votes, 100% for Biden. - 4 am dump/Michigan 138,499 cotes 100% for Biden" like this is in anyway accurate.
I could tweet ANYTHING and have it believed.
So, like Russia and the BidenVoter then.
Interesting
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2020, 02:21:45 PM
less optimistic about AZ and GA rn
Yes. Earlier this morning MSNBC flipped it back from Blue to Toss-Up. Not sure why anyone is calling AZ right now. Trump has a great chance.
MSNBC has never had Arizona blue and they've been adamant about it. I've watched probably nothing but MSNBC & FNC for like 40 of the last 48 hours.
I've been watching MSNBC as well. I think they moved it around midnight last night but it was back this morning. Fox News obviously has it blue. I know CNN hasn't had it blue. Maybe it was CBSNews.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 05, 2020, 02:23:16 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 05, 2020, 02:26:41 PM
dax, are you still doing your wisconsin turnout fraud thing or has that passed?
https://twitter.com/WisVoter/status/1324415533303926786
I literally still have magas telling me "4 am dump/Wisconsin 65,000 votes, 100% for Biden. - 4 am dump/Michigan 138,499 cotes 100% for Biden" like this is in anyway accurate.
I could tweet ANYTHING and have it believed.
So, like Russia and the BidenVoter then.
Interesting
There are definitely some similarities, no disputing that. I have never contended there aren't total fat headed idiots buying swampland all sides.
This one is just so remarkably stupid I am surprised college educated people will repeat
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 02:42:30 PM
dax, are you still doing your wisconsin turnout fraud thing or has that passed?
https://twitter.com/WisVoter/status/1324415533303926786
I literally still have magas telling me "4 am dump/Wisconsin 65,000 votes, 100% for Biden. - 4 am dump/Michigan 138,499 cotes 100% for Biden" like this is in anyway accurate.
I could tweet ANYTHING and have it believed.
Haha, dax was spreading that stuff too and everyone laughed at him and then he tried to play it off like he was just joking
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 02:44:43 PM
dax, are you still doing your wisconsin turnout fraud thing or has that passed?
https://twitter.com/WisVoter/status/1324415533303926786
I literally still have magas telling me "4 am dump/Wisconsin 65,000 votes, 100% for Biden. - 4 am dump/Michigan 138,499 cotes 100% for Biden" like this is in anyway accurate.
I could tweet ANYTHING and have it believed.
Haha, dax was spreading that stuff too and everyone laughed at him and then he tried to play it off like he was just joking
Actually the opposite BidenVoter.7, fairly surprised you missed that considering you stalk every post I make.
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 02:56:57 PM
https://twitter.com/centristallway/status/1324392023814713346
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Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 03:00:33 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 03:12:50 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 03:16:23 PM
Dax!
https://twitter.com/centristallway/status/1324392023814713346
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Trump has better BOT farms? The Indians and the Chinese didn't put enough effort into it?
:dunno:
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 05, 2020, 03:18:32 PM
what is my lib voter nickname? Feel like I am missing out here. ty
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 03:20:43 PM
Hey Dax,
what is my lib voter nickname? Feel like I am missing out here. ty
Paul Smith
Post by: Institutional Control on November 05, 2020, 03:25:47 PM
Hey Dax,
what is my lib voter nickname? Feel like I am missing out here. ty
SleepyWillie
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 03:29:03 PM
Hey Dax,
what is my lib voter nickname? Feel like I am missing out here. ty
SleepyWillie
Call your doctor to see if Viagra is right for you
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 03:42:02 PM
https://twitter.com/EmmaKinery/status/1324463595615330304
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 05, 2020, 03:48:01 PM
Hey Dax,
what is my lib voter nickname? Feel like I am missing out here. ty
Paul Smith
:don'tcare: pretty good
Post by: chum1 on November 05, 2020, 03:52:40 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 04:05:07 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2020, 04:11:24 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 04:15:36 PM
Currently down 9,400. Absolutely amazing that someone is going to win this state by possibly under 1,000 votes.
That last dump then was 76.3% Biden (4708 to 1462). If all the rest is on that margin goes that way and you take the recently posted votes out of the 47k, Biden gains 21600, more than enough to win. But, probably not going to be that high
Post by: chum1 on November 05, 2020, 04:18:51 PM
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 04:21:18 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 05, 2020, 04:23:47 PM
Post by: Trim on November 05, 2020, 04:31:54 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2020, 04:34:55 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 05, 2020, 04:37:04 PM
https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1324465140801146882
Post by: Cire on November 05, 2020, 04:37:17 PM
https://twitter.com/anna_orso/status/1324467780549312518rough ridin' maga
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 05, 2020, 04:38:28 PM
Pissed that Fox News isn't helping them delegitimize the election results.
https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1324465140801146882
Lol
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 04:41:07 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 04:50:59 PM
Hard to overstate how pissed Mrs. Dax was that they were out of her favorite salad at Chik-Fil-A this afternoon.
May I ask which one that is? Totes ok if not
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 04:56:57 PM
Which mrs?Hard to overstate how pissed Mrs. Dax was that they were out of her favorite salad at Chik-Fil-A this afternoon.
May I ask which one that is? Totes ok if not
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 04:57:12 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 05:00:14 PM
Hard to overstate how pissed Mrs. Dax was that they were out of her favorite salad at Chik-Fil-A this afternoon.
May I ask which one that is? Totes ok if not
Market
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 05:09:57 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 05:10:57 PM
Post by: Trim on November 05, 2020, 05:12:14 PM
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 05:12:38 PM
i think there may also be some military and provisional ballots that aren't included in those counts.
apparently not.
https://twitter.com/hjessy_/status/1324453367213641730
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 05:15:52 PM
Oh wait, Trump supposedly said something mean about the military then even BidenVoter BFF Mike Bolton (formerly the hated Mike Bolton before OrangeMan Bad) refutes.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 05:17:02 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 05:17:43 PM
I thought the military mens hate trump because he's such a peacenik
You forgot to add "IMO".
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 05:19:28 PM
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 05:20:34 PM
https://twitter.com/elium2/status/1324481716904468482
Post by: chum1 on November 05, 2020, 05:28:52 PM
https://twitter.com/JuddPDeere45/status/1324483909267148800
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 05:38:18 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 06:02:08 PM
Post by: kstater on November 05, 2020, 06:16:52 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 06:18:06 PM
I can't believe Trump Jr or Eric, or anyone wasn't able to talk him out of going out and doing that.
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crap I thought it was 6:30 CST did I miss his remarks?
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 06:19:10 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 06:22:55 PM
Yes, it was sad and pathetic
I think he finally realized it was over
Post by: bucket on November 05, 2020, 06:23:55 PM
Post by: bucket on November 05, 2020, 06:25:44 PM
Yes, it was sad and pathetic
I think he finally realized it was over
I think, for most people, that's the last thing you would do or say if you thought it was over. It seems to me he's trying to fire up his base and spin machine. Spin doesn't seem to be behind him.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 05, 2020, 06:27:19 PM
Down to just 3635 in GA, 66.7% for Biden (11751-5861). 17612 total. Roughly2319k left. (Thank you Nate Silver for correcting my error)
3486 now, another pretty good % at 65.2% (2460-1311). I think Biden has it. So that means roughly 15k votes left
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 06:32:27 PM
Yes, it was sad and pathetic
I think he finally realized it was over
I think, for most people, that's the last thing you would do or say if you thought it was over. It seems to me he's trying to fire up his base and spin machine. Spin doesn't seem to be behind him.
Trump is not most people
Post by: bucket on November 05, 2020, 06:35:35 PM
Yes, it was sad and pathetic
I think he finally realized it was over
I think, for most people, that's the last thing you would do or say if you thought it was over. It seems to me he's trying to fire up his base and spin machine. Spin doesn't seem to be behind him.
Trump is not most people
Obviously, but I also don't think this is over for him.
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 06:36:49 PM
https://twitter.com/cspanjeremy/status/1324503136048975879
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 06:43:38 PM
How did Bret Baier respond to it? I was watching a different channel and just switched to Fox.
Said everything trump said was bullshit and embarrassing
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2020, 06:59:01 PM
Lmaoooooooo
https://twitter.com/cspanjeremy/status/1324503136048975879
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Holy crap he looks so defeated (and also very old and unbalanced). This guy wouldn't have made it another 4 years anyways.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 07:38:40 PM
Also chicken shits for not standing up to him before this.
Post by: chum1 on November 05, 2020, 08:11:25 PM
Trump team just called GA for Biden too. This election result is going to be reasonably close to what the forecast maps called for
https://twitter.com/courtneydbryant/status/1324139665285328899
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I like to imagine Trump seeing his lead dwindle on television and being like, "MAKE IT STOP! STOP THE COUNTING!!! DO SOMETHING!!!"
https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1324519655114002433
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 08:23:36 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 08:33:37 PM
i knew what he meant.
yeah, same
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 08:35:22 PM
https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/status/1324540363281993728
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 08:42:04 PM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1324541784656150528
Post by: treysolid on November 05, 2020, 09:12:12 PM
Looking again at the PA maps, Biden is likely to flip at least two of Bucks, Monroe and Lehigh counties, while finishing strong in Allegheny, Chester, Delaware, Montgomery, and Philadelpia. Biden carries the state by ~2%.
Update - Biden has flipped all three of those counties, which bodes well for the other half of this prediction.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 09:17:03 PM
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 09:22:59 PM
Odds are spiking for Joey in PA and GA! Over AZ
it's looking really good for him to win all three. pa is already over. ga looks like a very narrow win and then endless recounts if trump still cares once he is made to understand he's not going to be president either way. az is a bit of a black box, but the people best able to see into that box say biden will win.
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 09:30:10 PM
https://twitter.com/ryanmatsumoto1/status/1324552491879460865
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2020, 09:32:24 PM
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 09:38:00 PM
Are there speeches tonight?
tomorrow am, i'd bet. when biden takes the lead in pa.
Post by: Institutional Control on November 05, 2020, 09:49:30 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 11:04:01 PM
Of course
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 11:23:15 PM
https://twitter.com/BrendanKeefe/status/1324577383328997376
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 11:24:10 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 11:50:03 PM
https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1324573797257793536
Of course
Stand down and stand by
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 05, 2020, 11:52:48 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 06, 2020, 12:01:47 AM
Could get violent tomorrow when he officially loses but refuses to concede.
Yea it’s going to
Post by: puniraptor on November 06, 2020, 12:21:34 AM
Post by: stunted on November 06, 2020, 01:27:16 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 06, 2020, 03:46:27 AM
Post by: sys on November 06, 2020, 04:07:12 AM
3:30AM, Friday, November 6, 2020. Georgia went blue and trump lost.
blue looks good on georgia, it should keep it.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 06, 2020, 04:22:49 AM
3:30AM, Friday, November 6, 2020. Georgia went blue and trump lost.
blue looks good on georgia, it should keep it.
No reason why it shouldn't, it's all on the dems at this point, they have the demographics.
Post by: IPA4Me on November 06, 2020, 06:03:48 AM
Post by: chum1 on November 06, 2020, 06:17:03 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 06:28:02 AM
The thing that's funny to me about Georgia is that it can be a super swingy swing state, yet at the same time the red part of the state is as turbo charged MAGA as anywhere.Yeah, GA is like the FL of the South
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Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 06:50:45 AM
https://twitter.com/kristinapet/status/1324564107660533760
Post by: cfbandyman on November 06, 2020, 06:52:36 AM
The thing that's funny to me about Georgia is that it can be a super swingy swing state, yet at the same time the red part of the state is as turbo charged MAGA as anywhere.Yeah, GA is like the FL of the South
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So, FL is the FL of FL?
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 06:57:28 AM
The thing that's funny to me about Georgia is that it can be a super swingy swing state, yet at the same time the red part of the state is as turbo charged MAGA as anywhere.Yeah, GA is like the FL of the South
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So, FL is the FL of FL?
that's right
Post by: waks on November 06, 2020, 07:15:23 AM
gerrymandering, HOW DOES IT WORK!? also lmao at alleging the dems committed fraud to help their presidential candidate win but still voted pub down ticket on their fraud ballots.Wrong again, Sheep Dave!
https://twitter.com/kristinapet/status/1324564107660533760
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1324532853275766789
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 07:27:17 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 07:27:51 AM
https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1324703279754940418
Post by: Phil Titola on November 06, 2020, 07:39:11 AM
3:30AM, Friday, November 6, 2020. Georgia went blue and trump lost.Thank you John Lewis.
Post by: catastrophe on November 06, 2020, 07:46:00 AM
lmaoSome of the attorneys filing these suits should be sanctioned irl
https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1324703279754940418
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 07:55:33 AM
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Post by: Institutional Control on November 06, 2020, 07:56:14 AM
There goes PA!
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STOP THE COUNT!
Post by: ChiComCat on November 06, 2020, 07:56:14 AM
I think this is the one where they submitted a hand drawn map to the judge.lmaoSome of the attorneys filing these suits should be sanctioned irl
https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1324703279754940418
Post by: Phil Titola on November 06, 2020, 07:58:11 AM
There goes PA! May get to 306 :love:I'm banking on 306 at this point
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 06, 2020, 08:06:40 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 06, 2020, 08:09:08 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 06, 2020, 08:12:21 AM
When does Trumps 2024 Bid start?
Trump will be lucky to be alive or out of jail in 2024.
Post by: wetwillie on November 06, 2020, 08:15:50 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2020, 08:21:43 AM
I’m thinking Feb 2022
It's already began.
Post by: IPA4Me on November 06, 2020, 08:25:42 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 08:29:28 AM
https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/803336493469204481
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 08:30:31 AM
gerrymandering, HOW DOES IT WORK!? also lmao at alleging the dems committed fraud to help their presidential candidate win but still voted pub down ticket on their fraud ballots.Wrong again, Sheep Dave!
https://twitter.com/kristinapet/status/1324564107660533760
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1324532853275766789
:D
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1324717747067080713
Post by: 8manpick on November 06, 2020, 08:40:53 AM
Post by: waks on November 06, 2020, 08:46:15 AM
Lol, yeah, I pulled the Kassam tweet off of DJTJ's page.gerrymandering, HOW DOES IT WORK!? also lmao at alleging the dems committed fraud to help their presidential candidate win but still voted pub down ticket on their fraud ballots.Wrong again, Sheep Dave!
https://twitter.com/kristinapet/status/1324564107660533760
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1324532853275766789
:D
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1324717747067080713
It's crazy they don't realize that there were definitely Republicans that were still going to vote down ticket Pub with the exception of the Presidency. There were literally hundreds (thousands?) of well known Republicans that endorsed Biden.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 06, 2020, 09:08:22 AM
The thing that's funny to me about Georgia is that it can be a super swingy swing state, yet at the same time the red part of the state is as turbo charged MAGA as anywhere.Yeah, GA is like the FL of the South
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Georgia is the most two americas place in the entire country, there's no place like it. Atlanta is far more liberal than Miami-Dade and Georgia outside of Atlanta might be the most MAGA place in the world.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 06, 2020, 09:12:16 AM
:D
https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/803336493469204481
BTW, notice the date on that cnn tweet, it was almost a month after election day.
Post by: IPA4Me on November 06, 2020, 09:13:33 AM
Louisville-Lexington v rural Kentucky on steroids.The thing that's funny to me about Georgia is that it can be a super swingy swing state, yet at the same time the red part of the state is as turbo charged MAGA as anywhere.Yeah, GA is like the FL of the South
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Georgia is the most two americas place in the entire country, there's no place like it. Atlanta is far more liberal than Miami-Dade and Georgia outside of Atlanta might be the most MAGA place in the world.
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2020, 09:14:23 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2020, 09:15:52 AM
i would 100% rather live in / visit a MAGA part of georgia than a MAGA part of florida
This is a good point. Florida maga is just rough ridin' crazy imo. I haven't spent much time in the sec tho
Post by: MakeItRain on November 06, 2020, 09:17:22 AM
i would 100% rather live in / visit a MAGA part of georgia than a MAGA part of florida
Georgia has confederate generals carved in the side of a mountain, hard pass on both.
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 09:24:59 AM
Post by: spacedog on November 06, 2020, 09:27:46 AM
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2020, 09:28:55 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 06, 2020, 09:31:59 AM
georgia is beautiful and has savannah (wow!) and like mountains and crap. the most adorable airport in the world (AGS)! a short drive to Pisgah! limp bizkit is not from there!
I'm sure you know this because it seems like you've been there but Savannah is very much non MAGA, maybe the hippie capital of the east coast.
Post by: 8manpick on November 06, 2020, 09:32:24 AM
i would 100% rather live in / visit a MAGA part of georgia than a MAGA part of floridaRich MAGA Florida is incredible
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 09:33:53 AM
georgia is beautiful and has savannah (wow!) and like mountains and crap. the most adorable airport in the world (AGS)! a short drive to Pisgah! limp bizkit is not from there!
yeah, GA for sure has better places than FL. But we're talking about the MAGA parts.
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 09:35:03 AM
i would 100% rather live in / visit a MAGA part of georgia than a MAGA part of floridaRich MAGA Florida is incredible
Palm Beach was probably my most cultural wtf the first time I was there
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2020, 09:35:44 AM
georgia is beautiful and has savannah (wow!) and like mountains and crap. the most adorable airport in the world (AGS)! a short drive to Pisgah! limp bizkit is not from there!
I'm sure you know this because it seems like you've been there but Savannah is very much non MAGA, maybe the hippie capital of the east coast.
the way you framed it as ATL vs everything else made it fair game but yes, it's not really fair. the actual MAGAGA is terrifying
Post by: chum1 on November 06, 2020, 09:36:16 AM
Post by: 8manpick on November 06, 2020, 09:38:21 AM
i would 100% rather live in / visit a MAGA part of georgia than a MAGA part of floridaRich MAGA Florida is incredible
Palm Beach was probably my most cultural wtf the first time I was there
Yes same. Inlaws live in Jupiter. The first time I flew there, Mrs. 8mp and I were like the only non-geriatrics on ORD-PBI. There had to be 12 wheelchairs on the flight.
Post by: Institutional Control on November 06, 2020, 09:43:26 AM
Yeah, FL MAGAs are more like lovable doofuses and GA MAGAs are more like open carry is a major part of their lifestyle.
Go to Lakeland, FL. FL MAGAs are not lovable.
Post by: Institutional Control on November 06, 2020, 09:47:01 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 09:48:32 AM
Yeah, FL MAGAs are more like lovable doofuses and GA MAGAs are more like open carry is a major part of their lifestyle.
Go to Lakeland, FL. FL MAGAs are not lovable.
I have a huge client there! lmao it does suck crap. FL has so many flavors of MAGA. trailerhassee, duval, village, parrot head, swamp, etc.
Post by: Gooch on November 06, 2020, 09:51:18 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 06, 2020, 09:57:07 AM
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2020, 10:00:33 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 06, 2020, 10:09:53 AM
Enjoyed the mini-meltdown reporting from the Dem caucus call yesterday.
Post by: Cire on November 06, 2020, 10:11:13 AM
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2020, 10:13:30 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 06, 2020, 10:14:28 AM
Talking points have been issued lolWe thought we'd lose by a lot more.
I expect an overrated chant at the SOTU
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 06, 2020, 10:20:46 AM
Talking points issued far and wide to talk down the minority vote for Trump.
Just glad Joe will be walking into a massive Covid effort with the scientific processes, logistics and funding already in place to create and distribute a vaccine across the entire country. Hopefully his frail old racist war loving ass can stick with it for 6 months.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 06, 2020, 10:23:27 AM
It'll be fun to see the redistricting happen and see how 2022 happens
Post by: Phil Titola on November 06, 2020, 10:30:00 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 06, 2020, 10:45:08 AM
i've never been to st. augustine but i would probably like it
It's pretty great. Went to a super balls wedding there.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 06, 2020, 10:48:11 AM
Talking points have been issued lol
Has voter fraud been dropped by all but the most fervid idiots?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 06, 2020, 10:49:23 AM
We were told it wouldn't even be close, a blue tsunami crossing the land.
Talking points issued far and wide to talk down the minority vote for Trump.
Just glad Joe will be walking into a massive Covid effort with the scientific processes, logistics and funding already in place to create and distribute a vaccine across the entire country. Hopefully his frail old racist war loving ass can stick with it for 6 months.
This is a oscar level moral victory and goddam I am completely here to see him run with it.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2020, 10:51:21 AM
Talking points have been issued lol
Has voter fraud been dropped by all but the most fervid idiots?
Appears so
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 06, 2020, 10:53:56 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 06, 2020, 10:55:55 AM
Congrats again on getting the old white racist elected.Sorry yours lost.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 06, 2020, 10:58:32 AM
Congrats again on getting the old white racist elected.Sorry yours lost.
A huge difference of course is that old white racist Joe ensured that hundreds of thousands of people of color were incarcerated, hundreds of thousands of people of color were killed, million's of POC were displaced from their homes and millions of POC were deported.
Expect nothing less from Robert "Grand Cleagle" Byrd's best bud.
Post by: wetwillie on November 06, 2020, 11:13:26 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 06, 2020, 11:29:35 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2020, 11:31:37 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2020, 11:57:08 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 06, 2020, 12:03:41 PM
Inject
willie I already have you checked off as being all for old white corrupt racist war mongers as long as they're Democrats. No need to keep reminding me/us.
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2020, 01:20:07 PM
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2020, 01:22:30 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 06, 2020, 01:22:42 PM
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2020, 01:36:21 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 06, 2020, 01:41:29 PM
not that it matters but what is going with alaska?
I think they have lots of mail-in ballots and slow freight in a normal year. Large areas of the state aren't very habitable in November.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2020, 02:14:16 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 06, 2020, 02:17:34 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 02:53:57 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on November 06, 2020, 02:57:05 PM
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2020, 02:58:37 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 03:09:32 PM
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1324793898724720646
oof. ipa, I would avoid following or reading or anything else ian mile cheong.
Post by: IPA4Me on November 06, 2020, 03:12:01 PM
Posting for the laughs, sd. Some maga horse player retweeted it into my stream.https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1324793898724720646
oof. ipa, I would avoid following or reading or anything else ian mile cheong.
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Post by: mocat on November 06, 2020, 03:36:56 PM
i just looked at each of them on the NYT map, and he lost Jacksonville this year. OKC is the only city that is predominately pro Trump.
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2020, 03:40:35 PM
MA, RI, and HI were 100% blue
OK and WV were 100% red
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Post by: dal9 on November 06, 2020, 04:09:23 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2020, 04:10:34 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 06, 2020, 04:41:08 PM
When did the map colors flip? I seem to recall maps designated opposite a few years ago.
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Like the 80s
(https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/pCiElaT-OtuWDw_AfCJXuYQ50-w=/1072x720/filters:no_upscale()/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/red-state-blue-state-election-carter-reagan2-631.jpg)
Post by: IPA4Me on November 06, 2020, 04:41:41 PM
Damn. I'm not that old.When did the map colors flip? I seem to recall maps designated opposite a few years ago.
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Like the 80s
(https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/pCiElaT-OtuWDw_AfCJXuYQ50-w=/1072x720/filters:no_upscale()/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/red-state-blue-state-election-carter-reagan2-631.jpg)
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Post by: nicname on November 06, 2020, 06:50:18 PM
Damn. I'm not that old.When did the map colors flip? I seem to recall maps designated opposite a few years ago.
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Like the 80s
(https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/pCiElaT-OtuWDw_AfCJXuYQ50-w=/1072x720/filters:no_upscale()/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/red-state-blue-state-election-carter-reagan2-631.jpg)
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Here’s one featuring every pres election.
[youtube] https://youtu.be/UhJY9-OE5vk[/youtube]
This one is broken down by county and even more fascinating imo
[youtube] https://youtu.be/uoTdKelO8mg[/youtube]
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 06, 2020, 07:16:21 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37243190
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 08:29:33 PM
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Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 09:23:22 PM
Post by: catastrophe on November 06, 2020, 09:29:44 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 06, 2020, 09:30:27 PM
https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/1324914573791670272
I heard military members are pissed because Trump didn’t take them to war which provides opportunities for promotions.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 06, 2020, 10:11:54 PM
https://twitter.com/WrathOfKhan2016/status/1324877183165280257
Should this guy get his own thread? He's amazing.
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 10:15:43 PM
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Post by: cfbandyman on November 06, 2020, 10:38:01 PM
That dude is allegedly like 6’10” or something
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Damn close, at trivia last night the quiz master was talking about how FNC wanted to go shake down and knock some skulls and landed on trying to get to him, and then it well, didn't go so well lol
Post by: IPA4Me on November 07, 2020, 05:41:54 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/us/pennsylvania-convention-center-arrests/index.html
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2020, 08:16:13 AM
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 07, 2020, 08:21:43 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 07, 2020, 08:22:21 AM
No money down and 0% financing for up to 72 months at Harris-BidenLegit good one dax! Lol
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Post by: cfbandyman on November 07, 2020, 08:23:55 AM
No money down and 0% financing for up to 72 months at Harris-BidenLegit good one dax! Lol
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On the big corner under the HUGE American flag!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 07, 2020, 08:55:18 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 07, 2020, 09:07:40 AM
I'm looking as hard as I can, but I just don't ever see any American flags at the democrat events.
In that photo there are several on the building.
That being said, it's another IMO faux patriotism thing to need tons of murica flags to make you seem more american. Lots of post 9/11 crap if you ask me
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 07, 2020, 09:09:46 AM
I'm looking as hard as I can, but I just don't ever see any American flags at the democrat events.
In that photo there are several on the building.
That being said, it's another IMO faux patriotism thing to need tons of murica flags to make you seem more american. Lots of post 9/11 crap if you ask me
Oh, I see one now, hanging sideways and pointing straight down to hell. Just what message are they trying to send?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2020, 09:40:40 AM
https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/1324914573791670272
I heard military members are pissed because Trump didn’t take them to war which provides opportunities for promotions.
lmfao
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2020, 10:08:06 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1325099845045071873
Post by: Phil Titola on November 07, 2020, 10:16:07 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 07, 2020, 10:29:26 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 07, 2020, 10:33:22 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2020, 10:42:49 AM
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Post by: Phil Titola on November 07, 2020, 10:43:57 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2020, 10:45:25 AM
JFC
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/us/pennsylvania-convention-center-arrests/index.html
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That should go in MAGA thread imo
Post by: IPA4Me on November 07, 2020, 10:47:30 AM
So many choices. Could've gone Q as well.JFC
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/us/pennsylvania-convention-center-arrests/index.html
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That should go in MAGA thread imo
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Post by: Trim on November 07, 2020, 10:48:31 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 07, 2020, 11:08:21 AM
K-State goes for the sweep later today after a big win by K-Street this morning.All turning up K this Saturday.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2020, 12:13:46 PM
President Xi, the intelligence wing of the People’s Liberation Army and the Chinese Communist Party.
Ukrainian and Russian Oligarchs with a wink from Vlad Putin.
The mullahs of Iran and hardcore Fundamentalist Theocracies across the globe.
‘grats again
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2020, 12:34:14 PM
Congrats to the following, you got your guy:
President Xi, the intelligence wing of the People’s Liberation Army and the Chinese Communist Party.
Ukrainian and Russian Oligarchs with a wink from Vlad Putin.
The mullahs of Iran and hardcore Fundamentalist Theocracies across the globe.
‘grats again
are you bailing on the voter fraud thing then?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2020, 12:40:17 PM
LOLCongrats to the following, you got your guy:
President Xi, the intelligence wing of the People’s Liberation Army and the Chinese Communist Party.
Ukrainian and Russian Oligarchs with a wink from Vlad Putin.
The mullahs of Iran and hardcore Fundamentalist Theocracies across the globe.
‘grats again
are you bailing on the voter fraud thing then?
Calling for all legal ballots to be counted.
Post by: catastrophe on November 07, 2020, 12:55:03 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2020, 12:59:16 PM
Are you thinking there were illegal votes counted that impacted any of the stare victories?I don’t know dude, I’m drinking a beer watching football.
Post by: bucket on November 07, 2020, 01:15:05 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2020, 02:15:27 PM
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 07, 2020, 02:16:23 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 07, 2020, 02:21:08 PM
You know, for 5 years Trump has been playing the role of the tough guy. Yet Mr. Biden is a man who experienced real loss and kept going, kept working, and displayed true empathy and courage for our country. He's the truly tough guy.
I probably have a lot of different views than Mr. Biden, but we both agree on putting others above ourselves. What a refreshing person.
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2020, 02:24:21 PM
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 07, 2020, 02:52:11 PM
It felt good to vote for Biden though didn't it. I think he is a kind person. I know y'all probably talked about it at length in a billion other threads, but he really did an amazing job with his campaign.
You know, for 5 years Trump has been playing the role of the tough guy. Yet Mr. Biden is a man who experienced real loss and kept going, kept working, and displayed true empathy and courage for our country. He's the truly tough guy.
I probably have a lot of different views than Mr. Biden, but we both agree on putting others above ourselves. What a refreshing person.
CF3 this board loves you and misses you. And needs your voice. Come home.
Post by: Brock Landers on November 07, 2020, 03:00:05 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 07, 2020, 03:18:00 PM
https://twitter.com/jameshohmann/status/1325150981005381632
Post by: sys on November 07, 2020, 03:42:23 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 07, 2020, 03:45:38 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2020, 04:15:28 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2020, 05:19:00 PM
He played a pivotal role in separating sons and fathers from their families and sending them to prison by being a champion of draconian sentencing legislation.
But he’s a Democrat and none of that matters.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 07, 2020, 05:29:55 PM
Joe Biden used his position as VPOTUS to profit. He played a huge role in sending thousands of American son’s and daughter’s off to die in needless wars. He played a big part in killing thousands of people in far off lands, and displacing millions more from their homes.It sounds very bad and it's pretty sad trump was your candidate and how bad he was over the past 4 years in america's eyes.
He played a pivotal role in separating sons and fathers from their families and sending them to prison by being a champion of draconian sentencing legislation.
But he’s a Democrat and none of that matters.
Take the L.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2020, 06:21:00 PM
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1325223260955570176
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2020, 07:52:20 PM
Joe Biden used his position as VPOTUS to profit. He played a huge role in sending thousands of American son’s and daughter’s off to die in needless wars. He played a big part in killing thousands of people in far off lands, and displacing millions more from their homes.
He played a pivotal role in separating sons and fathers from their families and sending them to prison by being a champion of draconian sentencing legislation.
But he’s a Democrat and none of that matters.
You'd think he'd be easy to beat by anyone but a complete doofus with followers who can't do a sit up but here we are.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 07, 2020, 08:19:14 PM
LmaoReference my all bark no bite post a week or so back.
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1325223260955570176
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2020, 08:33:23 PM
https://twitter.com/MistaC87/status/1325258351291166726
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2020, 10:00:11 PM
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1325285860393295873
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2020, 11:27:15 PM
lmao, netanyahu has seen enough and has called this thing for Bidenhttps://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1325302956363812864
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1319681169315811329
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 08, 2020, 08:48:14 AM
The incessant use of “Sleepy Joe”. ... Trump deserves all the humiliation coming his way for that alone. What a stupid bully.lmao, netanyahu has seen enough and has called this thing for Bidenhttps://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1325302956363812864
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1319681169315811329
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Post by: dal9 on November 08, 2020, 11:27:14 PM
Post by: dal9 on November 09, 2020, 01:02:20 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/x3nzGDy/Screenshot-2020-11-09-Ben-Mathis-Lilley-on-Twitter.png)
Post by: sys on November 09, 2020, 03:17:41 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2020, 09:52:25 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2020, 09:55:47 AM
But already the usual suspects are lining up to try and unravel the many new peace accords.
Expect that to accelerate if Biden brings in a number of already well established TPOS into his administration.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 09, 2020, 09:56:53 AM
nice work purple kansas
5 blue counties I think it is :surprised:
Post by: wetwillie on November 09, 2020, 10:05:42 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2020, 10:24:15 AM
nice work purple kansas
5 blue counties I think it is :surprised:
Reping 40% of Kansans!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 09, 2020, 10:57:30 AM
TPOS= Total Pieces of crap
Post by: wetwillie on November 09, 2020, 12:37:31 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 09, 2020, 02:00:38 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 09, 2020, 11:29:04 PM
https://twitter.com/SenhorRaposa/status/1325615301669609472
My birthplace county rising to the occasion. :love: :love: :love:
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2020, 11:36:42 PM
https://twitter.com/SenhorRaposa/status/1325615301669609472
My birthplace county rising to the occasion. :love: :love: :love:
About time
Post by: puniraptor on November 10, 2020, 04:20:25 AM
Post by: ben ji on November 10, 2020, 09:17:25 AM
I hope President Trump never concedes. I hope he barricades himself in the oval office until Biden's secret service blows the door off the hinges and drags him out by his oxfords on Jan 20.
What about the SS (non nazi) guys who protect trump after he leaves office? Will they have to fight biden's SS guys when they come to evict trump? What are the rules of engagement for SS vs SS? No guns? Are clubs/blunt force weapons allowed? Rock Paper Scissors?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 10, 2020, 09:39:53 AM
I hope President Trump never concedes. I hope he barricades himself in the oval office until Biden's secret service blows the door off the hinges and drags him out by his oxfords on Jan 20.
What about the SS (non nazi) guys who protect trump after he leaves office? Will they have to fight biden's SS guys when they come to evict trump? What are the rules of engagement for SS vs SS? No guns? Are clubs/blunt force weapons allowed? Rock Paper Scissors?
I've read that they would help Biden's SS guys forcibly remove Trump because at that point, Trump would be an active threat to the president's safety.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 10, 2020, 09:40:38 AM
Post by: catastrophe on November 10, 2020, 11:05:49 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 10, 2020, 11:27:45 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2020, 12:04:07 PM
https://twitter.com/LizRNC/status/1326210301486903299
Post by: cfbandyman on November 10, 2020, 12:05:45 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2020, 12:07:46 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2020, 01:12:02 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1326166348171534336
Post by: wetwillie on November 10, 2020, 01:16:18 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 10, 2020, 01:24:37 PM
I suppose, when one party is filled with millions who believe that, and lead by agents of de-legitimization (Vlad's favorite kind of people) for 4 years, then there is a level of recognition of similar events that must be discussed.
Another positively fascinating (and enjoyable) thing is the great joy that BidenVoter is getting out of bringing up Pubs talking about GA in 2018, while failing to also recognize that Abrams refused to accept the results of the election for several weeks.
I do take solace in one thing. Had this current situation been reversed, I think we can all agree that multiple U.S. cities would be burning right now, and the ongoing widespread violence would be extremely dis-heartening.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2020, 01:29:36 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 10, 2020, 01:32:50 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 10, 2020, 01:37:24 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 10, 2020, 01:40:33 PM
And thus begins the multi-year meltdown just because Donald Trump lost
Rainman.7, join me in acknowledging that if the current situation was reversed, that cities would be burning right now.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2020, 01:45:12 PM
But go ahead and cling to your fanfic
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 10, 2020, 01:57:22 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 10, 2020, 01:59:54 PM
Oh well, maybe your dial-up is broken.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 10, 2020, 02:03:10 PM
I don't remember Dems going nuts after Bush won Florida by 500 votes in 2000. Did Dems go nuts? Was there a smooth transition? Was there a smooth transition last year when Trump barely beat Hill-Dog?
Hillary still talks about how she wished she hadn't conceded.
Also excellent job of not discussing the fact that Florida 2000 was fleshed out over the course of a . . . month.
Post by: ChiComCat on November 10, 2020, 02:06:55 PM
And thus begins the multi-year meltdown just because Donald Trump lost
Rainman.7, join me in acknowledging that if the current situation was reversed, that cities would be burning right now.
Another hypothetical election result following all of Trump's successes over the hypothetical Hillary presidency.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2020, 02:10:06 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 10, 2020, 02:14:07 PM
I don't remember Dems going nuts after Bush won Florida by 500 votes in 2000. Did Dems go nuts? Was there a smooth transition? Was there a smooth transition last year when Trump barely beat Hill-Dog?
Hillary still talks about how she wished she hadn't conceded.
Also excellent job of not discussing the fact that Florida 2000 was fleshed out over the course of a . . . month.
Yep. 1 state. Trump is losing PA, GA, AZ, WI, MI, etc by 10k+ votes, not less than 1,000. Trump's effort at this point is to burn America's confidence is elections to the ground on his way out.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 10, 2020, 02:22:30 PM
I don't remember Dems going nuts after Bush won Florida by 500 votes in 2000. Did Dems go nuts? Was there a smooth transition? Was there a smooth transition last year when Trump barely beat Hill-Dog?
Hillary still talks about how she wished she hadn't conceded.
Also excellent job of not discussing the fact that Florida 2000 was fleshed out over the course of a . . . month.
Yep. 1 state. Trump is losing PA, GA, AZ, WI, MI, etc by 10k+ votes, not less than 1,000. Trump's effort at this point is to burn America's confidence is elections to the ground on his way out.
Your party literally spent 4 years falling for every conceivable de-legitimization campaign Vlad Putin could think up. Remember, the Russian BOT farms actually increased their activity after the election to get
Only to come to realize that most of the rage was conjured up on a fantasy produced by a former foreign intelligence officer sourced via Russian assets. I mean :lol: :lol:
Now you're worried about confidence in America :lol: :lol:
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 10, 2020, 02:24:49 PM
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Trump +75k 98 in
There is no reason Trump should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 10, 2020, 02:25:43 PM
I don't remember Dems going nuts after Bush won Florida by 500 votes in 2000. Did Dems go nuts? Was there a smooth transition? Was there a smooth transition last year when Trump barely beat Hill-Dog?
Hillary still talks about how she wished she hadn't conceded.
Also excellent job of not discussing the fact that Florida 2000 was fleshed out over the course of a . . . month.
Yep. 1 state. Trump is losing PA, GA, AZ, WI, MI, etc by 10k+ votes, not less than 1,000. Trump's effort at this point is to burn America's confidence is elections to the ground on his way out.
Your party literally spent 4 years falling for every conceivable de-legitimization campaign Vlad Putin could think up. Remember, the Russian BOT farms actually increased their activity after the election to getHillaryVoterBidenVoter all stirred up.
Only to come to realize that most of the rage was conjured up on a fantasy produced by a former foreign intelligence officer sourced via Russian assets. I mean :lol: :lol:
Now you're worried about confidence in America :lol: :lol:
Blue is not my party. :dunno:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 10, 2020, 02:28:10 PM
As it stands right now:
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Trump +75k 98 in
There is no reason Trump should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
That's .002% of the total votes cast.
Your party would be demanding a recount across the board if the situation were reversed.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2020, 02:36:24 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 10, 2020, 02:38:20 PM
As it stands right now:
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Trump +75k 98 in
There is no reason Trump should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
That's .002% of the total votes cast.
Your party would be demanding a recount across the board if the situation were reversed.
Again, Dems aren't my party. My party is the ones demanding the recount and it is ridiculous. If you think Trump is going to get 100% of votes left to count in WI, MI, PA, AZ, NV, and GA you are delusional. Also, PA law does not require a recount if gap is > .5%. Right now it is at .7% and climbing. WI will only pay for a recount if the margin of victory is under .25%....so right now Trump needs to open his checkbook if he wants one there. The rest of the states are irrelevant, though it looks like Biden won all but NC.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 10, 2020, 02:45:33 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 10, 2020, 02:49:49 PM
How many recounts were there in 2016 when there were smaller margins?
That's a you problem, Rainman.7
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 10, 2020, 02:51:09 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2020, 02:53:58 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2020, 02:59:25 PM
BITB is retweeting photos of ballots in a trashcan and i am rolling.
Yes that one is hilarious. "THIS IS IN OKLAHOMA!"
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 10, 2020, 03:06:39 PM
As it stands right now:
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Trump +75k 98 in
There is no reason Trump should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
That's .002% of the total votes cast.
Your party would be demanding a recount across the board if the situation were reversed.
Again, Dems aren't my party. My party is the ones demanding the recount and it is ridiculous. If you think Trump is going to get 100% of votes left to count in WI, MI, PA, AZ, NV, and GA you are delusional. Also, PA law does not require a recount if gap is > .5%. Right now it is at .7% and climbing. WI will only pay for a recount if the margin of victory is under .25%....so right now Trump needs to open his checkbook if he wants one there. The rest of the states are irrelevant, though it looks like Biden won all but NC.
I believe our constitution stipulates that state legislatures control elections in individual states, not the courts. It is not the least bit surprising or unusual that any campaign would seek remedy in court in a situation where a state court over stepped their lane. The SCOTUS was wrong to pass on that case.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 10, 2020, 03:07:26 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 10, 2020, 04:09:10 PM
As it stands right now:
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Trump +75k 98 in
There is no reason Trump should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
That's .002% of the total votes cast.
Your party would be demanding a recount across the board if the situation were reversed.
You kick the ass of those hypothetical Dems dax!
Post by: cfbandyman on November 10, 2020, 04:57:15 PM
As it stands right now:
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Drumpf +75k 98 in
There is no reason Drumpf should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
That's .002% of the total votes cast.
Your party would be demanding a recount across the board if the situation were reversed.
You kick the ass of those hypothetical Dems dax!
Exactly, such a demand in recounts were warranted, where WI was won by more trump than Biden at this point, MI was won by trump by 11k, not 150k, byt trump then, and PA was won 45k. And I recall no STOP THE COUNT! or mass cringing over recounts. Just utter shock that it happened.
FWIW, comparos
WI: trump +22k
AZ: trump +91k
GA: trump +211k
MI: trump +10k
NV: hilldog +27k
PA: trump +45k
NC: trump +173k
Post by: Phil Titola on November 10, 2020, 05:17:16 PM
Come on trump, try not to be a narcissistic prick just once. We have a country to keep living in.
Post by: wetwillie on November 10, 2020, 06:15:05 PM
As it stands right now:
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Trump +75k 98 in
There is no reason Trump should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
GA is not politically left of NC
Post by: Institutional Control on November 10, 2020, 06:57:53 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on November 10, 2020, 07:21:17 PM
Dax:it’s criminal that the courts are intervening when the legislature determines voting practices!As it stands right now:
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Trump +75k 98 in
There is no reason Trump should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
That's .002% of the total votes cast.
Your party would be demanding a recount across the board if the situation were reversed.
Again, Dems aren't my party. My party is the ones demanding the recount and it is ridiculous. If you think Trump is going to get 100% of votes left to count in WI, MI, PA, AZ, NV, and GA you are delusional. Also, PA law does not require a recount if gap is > .5%. Right now it is at .7% and climbing. WI will only pay for a recount if the margin of victory is under .25%....so right now Trump needs to open his checkbook if he wants one there. The rest of the states are irrelevant, though it looks like Biden won all but NC.
I believe our constitution stipulates that state legislatures control elections in individual states, not the courts. It is not the least bit surprising or unusual that any campaign would seek remedy in court in a situation where a state court over stepped their lane. The SCOTUS was wrong to pass on that case.
Also Dax: it’s criminal that SCOTUS passed on the opportunity to decide how these votes should be counted!
Post by: bucket on November 10, 2020, 07:56:24 PM
https://twitter.com/kevinmkruse/status/1326319473213771776?s=21
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https://twitter.com/OversightDems/status/1326289149469609985
:lol:
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2020, 07:57:21 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2020, 08:00:37 PM
Post by: bucket on November 10, 2020, 08:18:19 PM
Shots fired!
Post by: Institutional Control on November 10, 2020, 08:59:10 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 10, 2020, 09:12:55 PM
Dax:it’s criminal that the courts are intervening when the legislature determines voting practices!As it stands right now:
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Trump +75k 98 in
There is no reason Trump should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
That's .002% of the total votes cast.
Your party would be demanding a recount across the board if the situation were reversed.
Again, Dems aren't my party. My party is the ones demanding the recount and it is ridiculous. If you think Trump is going to get 100% of votes left to count in WI, MI, PA, AZ, NV, and GA you are delusional. Also, PA law does not require a recount if gap is > .5%. Right now it is at .7% and climbing. WI will only pay for a recount if the margin of victory is under .25%....so right now Trump needs to open his checkbook if he wants one there. The rest of the states are irrelevant, though it looks like Biden won all but NC.
I believe our constitution stipulates that state legislatures control elections in individual states, not the courts. It is not the least bit surprising or unusual that any campaign would seek remedy in court in a situation where a state court over stepped their lane. The SCOTUS was wrong to pass on that case.
Also Dax: it’s criminal that SCOTUS passed on the opportunity to decide how these votes should be counted!
You are extremely confused.
SCOTUS should have taken up the matter as to whether the PA courts had the right to intervene.
That's how our system works.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 10, 2020, 09:55:40 PM
Dax:it’s criminal that the courts are intervening when the legislature determines voting practices!As it stands right now:
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Trump +75k 98 in
There is no reason Trump should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
That's .002% of the total votes cast.
Your party would be demanding a recount across the board if the situation were reversed.
Again, Dems aren't my party. My party is the ones demanding the recount and it is ridiculous. If you think Trump is going to get 100% of votes left to count in WI, MI, PA, AZ, NV, and GA you are delusional. Also, PA law does not require a recount if gap is > .5%. Right now it is at .7% and climbing. WI will only pay for a recount if the margin of victory is under .25%....so right now Trump needs to open his checkbook if he wants one there. The rest of the states are irrelevant, though it looks like Biden won all but NC.
I believe our constitution stipulates that state legislatures control elections in individual states, not the courts. It is not the least bit surprising or unusual that any campaign would seek remedy in court in a situation where a state court over stepped their lane. The SCOTUS was wrong to pass on that case.
Also Dax: it’s criminal that SCOTUS passed on the opportunity to decide how these votes should be counted!
You are extremely confused.
SCOTUS should have taken up the matter as to whether the PA courts had the right to intervene.
That's how our system works.
SCOTUS expert speaking everybody. Listen up!
Post by: MakeItRain on November 10, 2020, 10:00:05 PM
Post by: waks on November 10, 2020, 10:01:10 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 10, 2020, 10:11:49 PM
The calls from the dems and the media for trump to concede is annoying and hypocritical. Al Gore didn't concede until December 13th. Why can't they just STFU until the recounts and lawsuits are done? Crying for a concession everyday for the next 6 weeks isn't going to help anything.
Not really comparable. Gore lost by 536 votes in ONE state. Trump is getting beaten by literally 30x that (if not more) in Michigan, in Wisconsin, in Pennsylvania, in Arizona, in Georgia, and in Nevada.
Post by: bucket on November 10, 2020, 10:16:21 PM
The calls from the dems and the media for trump to concede is annoying and hypocritical. Al Gore didn't concede until December 13th. Why can't they just STFU until the recounts and lawsuits are done? Crying for a concession everyday for the next 6 weeks isn't going to help anything.
Not really comparable. Gore lost by 536 votes in ONE state. Trump is getting beaten by literally 30x that (if not more) in Michigan, in Wisconsin, in Pennsylvania, in Arizona, in Georgia, and in Nevada.
I think that's the point. Technically speaking the president should be able to explore any and all legal avenues. However, in this case it's clear it's just Trump being a baby and it hurts the country in more ways than one.
Post by: dal9 on November 10, 2020, 10:28:35 PM
Post by: bucket on November 10, 2020, 10:29:48 PM
The calls from the dems and the media for trump to concede is annoying and hypocritical. Al Gore didn't concede until December 13th. Why can't they just STFU until the recounts and lawsuits are done? Crying for a concession everyday for the next 6 weeks isn't going to help anything.
Not really comparable. Gore lost by 536 votes in ONE state. Trump is getting beaten by literally 30x that (if not more) in Michigan, in Wisconsin, in Pennsylvania, in Arizona, in Georgia, and in Nevada.
I think that's the point. Technically speaking the president should be able to explore any and all legal avenues. However, in this case it's clear it's just Trump being a baby and it hurts the country in more ways than one.
It's more of the framing of fraud 100% happened at a large scale and concluding that the election is being stolen that were telegraphed months ago. Otherwise I really wouldn't gaf about him asking for recounts or for verification/trying to investigate legitimate fraud while he doesn't concede initially. Some of the stuff would still irk me like the Harris Co thing.
The "framing of fraud 100% happened" damages another pillar of government in this country. The transition delay hurts democrats, which Republicans may cheer, but is also not good for the country.
Post by: bucket on November 10, 2020, 10:49:26 PM
That should do it.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 11, 2020, 01:34:22 AM
The calls from the dems and the media for trump to concede is annoying and hypocritical. Al Gore didn't concede until December 13th. Why can't they just STFU until the recounts and lawsuits are done? Crying for a concession everyday for the next 6 weeks isn't going to help anything.
Not really comparable. Gore lost by 536 votes in ONE state. Trump is getting beaten by literally 30x that (if not more) in Michigan, in Wisconsin, in Pennsylvania, in Arizona, in Georgia, and in Nevada.
I think that's the point. Technically speaking the president should be able to explore any and all legal avenues. However, in this case it's clear it's just Trump being a baby and it hurts the country in more ways than one.
It's more of the framing of fraud 100% happened at a large scale and concluding that the election is being stolen that were telegraphed months ago. Otherwise I really wouldn't gaf about him asking for recounts or for verification/trying to investigate legitimate fraud while he doesn't concede initially. Some of the stuff would still irk me like the Harris Co thing.
The "framing of fraud 100% happened" damages another pillar of government in this country. The transition delay hurts democrats, which Republicans may cheer, but is also not good for the country.
The calls of fraud are 100% problematic, but of course we knew it was coming, he's done it for four years with an election he won. That still doesn't mean the democrats need to whine about him conceding, before he needs to. Also,.we aren't close to the point where the transition not fully being carried out is a problem, it's been like 3 days.
Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2020, 07:13:44 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2020, 07:23:35 AM
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1326396394891079681
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 11, 2020, 07:32:16 AM
CoronaBro Phil, I’m just echoing the words of a lawyer who has had multiple cases in front of SCOTUSDax:it’s criminal that the courts are intervening when the legislature determines voting practices!As it stands right now:
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Trump +75k 98 in
There is no reason Trump should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
That's .002% of the total votes cast.
Your party would be demanding a recount across the board if the situation were reversed.
Again, Dems aren't my party. My party is the ones demanding the recount and it is ridiculous. If you think Trump is going to get 100% of votes left to count in WI, MI, PA, AZ, NV, and GA you are delusional. Also, PA law does not require a recount if gap is > .5%. Right now it is at .7% and climbing. WI will only pay for a recount if the margin of victory is under .25%....so right now Trump needs to open his checkbook if he wants one there. The rest of the states are irrelevant, though it looks like Biden won all but NC.
I believe our constitution stipulates that state legislatures control elections in individual states, not the courts. It is not the least bit surprising or unusual that any campaign would seek remedy in court in a situation where a state court over stepped their lane. The SCOTUS was wrong to pass on that case.
Also Dax: it’s criminal that SCOTUS passed on the opportunity to decide how these votes should be counted!
You are extremely confused.
SCOTUS should have taken up the matter as to whether the PA courts had the right to intervene.
That's how our system works.
SCOTUS expert speaking everybody. Listen up!
Post by: cfbandyman on November 11, 2020, 07:34:01 AM
yeah, MAGAs are rightly being mocked to death for the screaming of fraud but them just wasting their own time, money, and efforts in court is actually good imo. the best way to mock it is just ignore it and move forward as president elect (which for the most part is happening so that's good)
Yeah, I am enjoying the complaining and whatnot by pubs over the yelling of fraud, it makes them look like loons, probably not great but also most people also seem to have taken this as it's over and not pushing too hard, only dumbasses (like the admin in the white house til Jan 20th) are really making it be a thing. Let them do it, it'll make it so much more fun to watch them fail spectacularly.
I guess I am not worried about any of their lawsuits because a) everything this administration has ever done is basically the equivalent of a 5 year old's level of understanding about things, so it's pretty easy to dismiss it (also see that such a lollers moment at the landscaping place) and b) Biden will have won this fairly handily with many options to have pushed him over 270, it wasn't close.
It's kinda annoying that trump and co have to do this, but realistically, they would've done it if he lost by Nixon-esque numbers (and that would honestly freak therm out more than this)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 11, 2020, 08:34:12 AM
Trump is acting like a child who lost a board game when the wager was Halloween candy. He got his ass kicked. He is whining everyone else cheated and is refusing to give up his candy he placed a bet on.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 11, 2020, 08:46:15 AM
The calls from the dems and the media for trump to concede is annoying and hypocritical. Al Gore didn't concede until December 13th. Why can't they just STFU until the recounts and lawsuits are done? Crying for a concession everyday for the next 6 weeks isn't going to help anything.
v true.
Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2020, 08:46:36 AM
It's not just the Dems that want Trump to concede, it's every smart-minded Independent and Republican as well. This whole "shut up Dems" is annoying because Biden pulled a ton of Pub and Indy votes as well.
Trump is acting like a child who lost a board game when the wager was Halloween candy. He got his ass kicked. He is whining everyone else cheated and is refusing to give up his candy he placed a bet on.
for sure, I'm a pub and I for sure want him to concede so everyone can focus on irl stuff but there are ways to do that without wasting everyone's time complaining about it. he's a loser and this is his MO. he's not going to suddenly change. he screamed fraud every time he's lost something. to cruz in Iowa. popular vote to hillary. it won't change.
Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2020, 08:49:32 AM
It's not just the Dems that want Trump to concede, it's every smart-minded Independent and Republican as well. This whole "shut up Dems" is annoying because Biden pulled a ton of Pub and Indy votes as well.
Trump is acting like a child who lost a board game when the wager was Halloween candy. He got his ass kicked. He is whining everyone else cheated and is refusing to give up his candy he placed a bet on.
for sure, I'm a pub and I for sure want him to concede so everyone can focus on irl stuff but there are ways to do that without wasting everyone's time complaining about it. he's a loser and this is his MO. he's not going to suddenly change. he screamed fraud every time he's lost something. to cruz in Iowa. popular vote to hillary. it won't change.
well, counterpoint he could get someone irl hurt by his crazy MAGA followers.
https://twitter.com/UrbanAchievr/status/1326534230936055808
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2020, 08:54:46 AM
Then post that instead of representing it as your own you hackCoronaBro Phil, I’m just echoing the words of a lawyer who has had multiple cases in front of SCOTUSDax:it’s criminal that the courts are intervening when the legislature determines voting practices!As it stands right now:
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Trump +75k 98 in
There is no reason Trump should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
That's .002% of the total votes cast.
Your party would be demanding a recount across the board if the situation were reversed.
Again, Dems aren't my party. My party is the ones demanding the recount and it is ridiculous. If you think Trump is going to get 100% of votes left to count in WI, MI, PA, AZ, NV, and GA you are delusional. Also, PA law does not require a recount if gap is > .5%. Right now it is at .7% and climbing. WI will only pay for a recount if the margin of victory is under .25%....so right now Trump needs to open his checkbook if he wants one there. The rest of the states are irrelevant, though it looks like Biden won all but NC.
I believe our constitution stipulates that state legislatures control elections in individual states, not the courts. It is not the least bit surprising or unusual that any campaign would seek remedy in court in a situation where a state court over stepped their lane. The SCOTUS was wrong to pass on that case.
Also Dax: it’s criminal that SCOTUS passed on the opportunity to decide how these votes should be counted!
You are extremely confused.
SCOTUS should have taken up the matter as to whether the PA courts had the right to intervene.
That's how our system works.
SCOTUS expert speaking everybody. Listen up!
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 11, 2020, 09:31:21 AM
It's not just the Dems that want Trump to concede, it's every smart-minded Independent and Republican as well. This whole "shut up Dems" is annoying because Biden pulled a ton of Pub and Indy votes as well.
Trump is acting like a child who lost a board game when the wager was Halloween candy. He got his ass kicked. He is whining everyone else cheated and is refusing to give up his candy he placed a bet on.
for sure, I'm a pub and I for sure want him to concede so everyone can focus on irl stuff but there are ways to do that without wasting everyone's time complaining about it. he's a loser and this is his MO. he's not going to suddenly change. he screamed fraud every time he's lost something. to cruz in Iowa. popular vote to hillary. it won't change.
well, counterpoint he could get someone irl hurt by his crazy MAGA followers.
https://twitter.com/UrbanAchievr/status/1326534230936055808
Not just that, national security risk becomes high if transitions don't happen. I'm hearing many reports that Biden is well versed in national security, which is great. That being said, they cannot communicate regarding national security with current administration until GSA provides approval. Every day Trump admin refuses to concede and start the transition is a day the new Biden administration does not have the resources in place to receive that information.
Post by: waks on November 11, 2020, 09:46:08 AM
This.It's not just the Dems that want Trump to concede, it's every smart-minded Independent and Republican as well. This whole "shut up Dems" is annoying because Biden pulled a ton of Pub and Indy votes as well.
Trump is acting like a child who lost a board game when the wager was Halloween candy. He got his ass kicked. He is whining everyone else cheated and is refusing to give up his candy he placed a bet on.
for sure, I'm a pub and I for sure want him to concede so everyone can focus on irl stuff but there are ways to do that without wasting everyone's time complaining about it. he's a loser and this is his MO. he's not going to suddenly change. he screamed fraud every time he's lost something. to cruz in Iowa. popular vote to hillary. it won't change.
well, counterpoint he could get someone irl hurt by his crazy MAGA followers.
https://twitter.com/UrbanAchievr/status/1326534230936055808
Not just that, national security risk becomes high if transitions don't happen. I'm hearing many reports that Biden is well versed in national security, which is great. That being said, they cannot communicate regarding national security with current administration until GSA provides approval. Every day Trump admin refuses to concede and start the transition is a day the new Biden administration does not have the resources in place to receive that information.
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When the 9/11 Commission finished its report, it found that the delayed transition “hampered the new administration in identifying, recruiting, clearing and obtaining Senate confirmation of key appointees” in the national security arena. The commission also concluded that avoiding future disruptions in transitions was deeply in the national interest.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/podesta-card-bush-gore-transition-trump/2020/11/10/ae1a960a-239f-11eb-8672-c281c7a2c96e_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/podesta-card-bush-gore-transition-trump/2020/11/10/ae1a960a-239f-11eb-8672-c281c7a2c96e_story.html)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 11, 2020, 10:08:07 AM
Post by: Gooch on November 11, 2020, 10:10:44 AM
https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1326345253360635904?s=21Atty cats, are there chances of santions getting levied against these attorneys knowingly filing bogus suits?
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Post by: Gooch on November 11, 2020, 10:16:50 AM
The calls from the dems and the media for trump to concede is annoying and hypocritical. Al Gore didn't concede until December 13th. Why can't they just STFU until the recounts and lawsuits are done? Crying for a concession everyday for the next 6 weeks isn't going to help anything.Fair but the deliberate blocking of Biden to set up a transition and receive info and funding should be called out and blasted.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 11, 2020, 11:05:08 AM
https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1326345253360635904?s=21Atty cats, are there chances of santions getting levied against these attorneys knowingly filing bogus suits?
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not really. most judges or opposing counsel will know they are stooges sent on a suicide mission
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 11, 2020, 11:23:47 AM
I’ve already discussed it in this thread.Then post that instead of representing it as your own you hackCoronaBro Phil, I’m just echoing the words of a lawyer who has had multiple cases in front of SCOTUSDax:it’s criminal that the courts are intervening when the legislature determines voting practices!As it stands right now:
WI: Biden +20k 99% in
AZ: Biden +15k 98% in
GA: Biden +12k 99% in
MI: Biden +150k 99% in
NV: Biden +36k 97% in
PA: Biden +47k 98% in
NC: Trump +75k 98 in
There is no reason Trump should not concede at this point. It's time for transition teams to come in. America picked their President.
That's .002% of the total votes cast.
Your party would be demanding a recount across the board if the situation were reversed.
Again, Dems aren't my party. My party is the ones demanding the recount and it is ridiculous. If you think Trump is going to get 100% of votes left to count in WI, MI, PA, AZ, NV, and GA you are delusional. Also, PA law does not require a recount if gap is > .5%. Right now it is at .7% and climbing. WI will only pay for a recount if the margin of victory is under .25%....so right now Trump needs to open his checkbook if he wants one there. The rest of the states are irrelevant, though it looks like Biden won all but NC.
I believe our constitution stipulates that state legislatures control elections in individual states, not the courts. It is not the least bit surprising or unusual that any campaign would seek remedy in court in a situation where a state court over stepped their lane. The SCOTUS was wrong to pass on that case.
Also Dax: it’s criminal that SCOTUS passed on the opportunity to decide how these votes should be counted!
You are extremely confused.
SCOTUS should have taken up the matter as to whether the PA courts had the right to intervene.
That's how our system works.
SCOTUS expert speaking everybody. Listen up!
It’s also literally Basic CIvics 001
Post by: catastrophe on November 11, 2020, 12:42:37 PM
There’s a chance, but I think in reality these cases are VERY carefully worded to avoid allegations of actual fraud, which is the main reason they’re getting so easily kicked out. Filing a case based on a longshot legal interpretation (or asking for extremely mild relief) usually isn’t going to piss off a judge as much as it would to actually allege fraud without any evidence.https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1326345253360635904?s=21Atty cats, are there chances of santions getting levied against these attorneys knowingly filing bogus suits?
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not really. most judges or opposing counsel will know they are stooges sent on a suicide mission
Post by: catastrophe on November 11, 2020, 12:44:37 PM
I agree with MIR but I also think that any calls to concede are being amplified more by conservatives than they are Democrats. I really haven’t heard much about it either way other than some MAGAs on my FB hoping against hope that something big changes. Most people are just resigned to the inevitable.The calls from the dems and the media for trump to concede is annoying and hypocritical. Al Gore didn't concede until December 13th. Why can't they just STFU until the recounts and lawsuits are done? Crying for a concession everyday for the next 6 weeks isn't going to help anything.Fair but the deliberate blocking of Biden to set up a transition and receive info and funding should be called out and blasted.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 11, 2020, 01:58:14 PM
Fairvote has looked at statewide recounts since 2000. The average shift in votes has been a mere 430 votes and 0.02 points. The largest shift in votes was a little less than 2,600 and 0.11 points.
https://www.fairvote.org/a_survey_and_analysis_of_statewide_election_recounts (https://www.fairvote.org/a_survey_and_analysis_of_statewide_election_recounts)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 11, 2020, 02:31:53 PM
Brian Williams was taking a pretty alarmist tone about Trump not conceding on 11th Hour last night. Can they just shoot him with a tranquilizer dart and drag him out of there on Jan 20?I agree with MIR but I also think that any calls to concede are being amplified more by conservatives than they are Democrats. I really haven’t heard much about it either way other than some MAGAs on my FB hoping against hope that something big changes. Most people are just resigned to the inevitable.The calls from the dems and the media for trump to concede is annoying and hypocritical. Al Gore didn't concede until December 13th. Why can't they just STFU until the recounts and lawsuits are done? Crying for a concession everyday for the next 6 weeks isn't going to help anything.Fair but the deliberate blocking of Biden to set up a transition and receive info and funding should be called out and blasted.
Post by: 8manpick on November 11, 2020, 02:39:24 PM
If you are thinking about tranquilizer darts, I think you’re severely overestimating the physical prowess of that fat old manBrian Williams was taking a pretty alarmist tone about Trump not conceding on 11th Hour last night. Can they just shoot him with a tranquilizer dart and drag him out of there on Jan 20?I agree with MIR but I also think that any calls to concede are being amplified more by conservatives than they are Democrats. I really haven’t heard much about it either way other than some MAGAs on my FB hoping against hope that something big changes. Most people are just resigned to the inevitable.The calls from the dems and the media for trump to concede is annoying and hypocritical. Al Gore didn't concede until December 13th. Why can't they just STFU until the recounts and lawsuits are done? Crying for a concession everyday for the next 6 weeks isn't going to help anything.Fair but the deliberate blocking of Biden to set up a transition and receive info and funding should be called out and blasted.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 11, 2020, 02:49:27 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 11, 2020, 02:55:37 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2020, 03:24:20 PM
https://twitter.com/ClenchedFisk/status/1326633220352389121
Post by: sys on November 11, 2020, 03:40:02 PM
https://twitter.com/RyanDEnos/status/1326587431714508804
Post by: star seed 7 on November 11, 2020, 03:46:31 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2020, 03:48:37 PM
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1326630618831130624
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 11, 2020, 04:13:27 PM
lmao, what is being alleged here?
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1326630618831130624
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Wait a damn minute here, they actually take the ballots out of those ballot drop boxes :surprised: ELECTION FRAUD!
Post by: Institutional Control on November 11, 2020, 04:21:00 PM
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Post by: chum1 on November 11, 2020, 04:29:52 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2020, 06:17:08 PM
https://twitter.com/fahrenthold/status/1326662707756544004
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Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2020, 06:24:19 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 11, 2020, 06:29:31 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on November 11, 2020, 06:34:11 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2020, 06:51:25 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 11, 2020, 06:54:50 PM
His tweet may actually be written by my 8 year old cousinT’s & P’s about your cousin’s learning disability.
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Post by: dal9 on November 11, 2020, 09:22:49 PM
His tweet may actually be written by my 8 year old cousinT’s & P’s about your cousin’s learning disability.
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keep in mind he also had to learn online most of this year.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 11, 2020, 10:16:11 PM
Post by: catastrophe on November 12, 2020, 07:52:42 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 12, 2020, 08:35:13 AM
I think it’s exclusively incels and people too old to remember what children are like.
vast majority.
The lawfirms who are showing their ass is a pretty prominent list though so its the above and those who want to grift the nuts off of the state GOP
Post by: catastrophe on November 12, 2020, 09:16:09 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 12, 2020, 09:29:55 AM
https://twitter.com/Slate/status/1326860032735137794
Post by: star seed 7 on November 12, 2020, 09:38:14 AM
Guy 1 started with how the media FINALLY gave trump Alaska. Then moved to how they are starting to reverse calls in other states. Guy 2 says he hasn't heard about that, g1 says he thinks it's pa or ga but can't remember. Then g1 says there's so much crap floating around right now it's hard to know what's true but he's still confident trump will prevail.
Post by: waks on November 12, 2020, 10:20:02 AM
The two old guys in my office finally talked about politics today for the first time since the election.I like to bet people like this large sums of money and then call them cowards when they won't take the bet.
Guy 1 started with how the media FINALLY gave trump Alaska. Then moved to how they are starting to reverse calls in other states. Guy 2 says he hasn't heard about that, g1 says he thinks it's pa or ga but can't remember. Then g1 says there's so much crap floating around right now it's hard to know what's true but he's still confident trump will prevail.
Post by: kstater on November 12, 2020, 12:23:40 PM
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Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2020, 10:38:28 PM
:sdeek:
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Post by: sys on November 12, 2020, 11:32:53 PM
https://twitter.com/ne0liberal/status/1327114824678039554
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Post by: cfbandyman on November 13, 2020, 09:47:22 AM
The mere notion that a single person on planet earth could look at trump's extremely childish behavior and somehow get it so twisted in their heads that they think he's some kind of Alpha will never not be funny to me.
It's a top 10 thing about this time I enjoy too.
Right up there with anyone putting Jesus and trump together as if he's some Christian. Yes, a thrice married porn star rough ridin' and hush money paying man child who doesn't even know who's Bible he's holding in front of a church like it's totally not a prop and who also never has been to church, is the model of a Christian. It amazes me.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 13, 2020, 09:49:13 AM
https://twitter.com/meghanmccain/status/1327105698468147201
:sdeek:
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At least she hits back sometimes against trump, unlike guys like Ted Cruz who just laps it up and asks for more from trump
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 13, 2020, 10:09:23 AM
Post by: kstater on November 13, 2020, 10:41:23 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327279929319432200?s=19
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 13, 2020, 10:52:45 AM
I am :lol: thinking about how BidenVoter melted down when when the national cybersecurity White House position wasn't filled by the Trump administration. You know the position that wasn't listened to when President Stand Down and National Security Advisor Stand Down were told that the Russians et. al. were interfering in the election of 2016. Only to now see BidenVoter melting down at the rumor that the DHS cyber-security guy may get let go.
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2020, 11:00:14 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 13, 2020, 01:44:27 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2020, 01:45:17 PM
Seems like they finally decided to call GA and NC, so, final score, 306-232
By all 2016 accounts that's a mandate.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2020, 01:49:30 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on November 13, 2020, 02:06:34 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2020, 02:07:43 PM
You'd have to be a pretty massive fuckup to get beat that bad as an incumbent.
by the worst candidate ever my sources tell me.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 13, 2020, 02:21:35 PM
(https://www.270towin.com/maps/z42jN.png)
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2020, 02:25:50 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on November 13, 2020, 02:27:48 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 13, 2020, 02:50:47 PM
Donald Trump is truly the king of acreage and places where people aren't. Both things he hates. It's pretty glorious.
Joe Biden certainly has control over the majority of net exodus states and the majority of net exodus metro areas.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2020, 02:52:52 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2020, 02:54:34 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 13, 2020, 02:56:07 PM
Donald Trump is truly the king of acreage and places where people aren't. Both things he hates. It's pretty glorious.
Joe Biden certainly has control over the majority of net exodus states and the majority of net exodus metro areas.
Counterpoint - Joe Biden is gaining popularity in the net influx states.
Post by: steve dave on November 13, 2020, 03:11:52 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327357477428600832
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 13, 2020, 03:25:05 PM
Donald Trump is truly the king of acreage and places where people aren't. Both things he hates. It's pretty glorious.
Joe Biden certainly has control over the majority of net exodus states and the majority of net exodus metro areas.
Counterpoint - Joe Biden is gaining popularity in the net influx states.
Many people in the ingress states are concerned that the economic refugee's from crap hole blue states and cities are bringing their "ideas" with them.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2020, 03:31:29 PM
should be good
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327357477428600832
They forget to dye his hair the past two weeks he's been in hiding?
Post by: wetwillie on November 13, 2020, 03:32:48 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2020, 03:33:42 PM
should be good
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327357477428600832
They forget to dye his hair the past two weeks he's been in hiding?
Oh man I didn't notice until you just posted. Silver fox alert!
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2020, 03:34:33 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 13, 2020, 03:44:27 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2020, 03:45:41 PM
Nothing says you're not a part of something like Warp Speed than a $2Billion dollar base contract with options paid for out of Warp Speed funds.
Die on every hill Dax. Do it! You only have a couple months left. Live it up.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2020, 03:46:18 PM
lmao at him chastising Pfizer for saying they were not pet of warpspeed
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Yeah, it's driving him nuts that they won't just let him take total credit
Also driving dax nuts apparently
Post by: kstater on November 13, 2020, 03:48:08 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 13, 2020, 03:48:33 PM
Nothing says you're not a part of something like Warp Speed than a $2Billion dollar base contract with options paid for out of Warp Speed funds.
Die on every hill Dax. Do it! You only have a couple months left. Live it up.
The fact that BidenVoters like you are (as usual) are utterly incapable of distinguishing that reality and actually calling out Big Pharma on being at minimum, extremely disingenuous in this case is telling. I'm sure Big Pharma is going to have your K-Street Stooge president elect by his saggy balls as always.
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Post by: steve dave on November 13, 2020, 08:20:41 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327407964404260870
Post by: steve dave on November 13, 2020, 08:25:34 PM
https://twitter.com/BrendanKeefe/status/1327384479401390080
Post by: Cire on November 13, 2020, 08:32:37 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 13, 2020, 11:08:59 PM
lmao
https://twitter.com/BrendanKeefe/status/1327384479401390080
We really don't need to be bothering 96 year olds for the sole purpose of proving trump and rough rider to be liars. Good thing that woman was a trooper though.
Post by: steve dave on November 17, 2020, 09:35:48 AM
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1328718423053004801
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2020, 09:38:21 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2020, 11:05:58 AM
Hmm, this doesn't seem very appropriate
Post by: catastrophe on November 17, 2020, 11:38:46 AM
Post by: Cire on November 17, 2020, 01:50:51 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2020, 02:15:33 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 17, 2020, 02:20:33 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2020, 03:05:40 PM
Squawk football has a new challenger
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 17, 2020, 03:16:41 PM
https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1328799165640552448
Squawk football has a new challenger
orange wings rising
Post by: Phil Titola on November 17, 2020, 03:18:56 PM
https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1328799165640552448
Squawk football has a new challenger
The one win was to let observers stand closer to people is that accurate?
Post by: Gooch on November 17, 2020, 03:30:26 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 17, 2020, 03:48:42 PM
Yep. Went from 10ft to 6ft buffer.
Yuge!
Post by: sys on November 17, 2020, 05:56:05 PM
https://twitter.com/michpoligal/status/1328834327262736386
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2020, 06:02:05 PM
Post by: sys on November 17, 2020, 07:25:15 PM
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Post by: sys on November 17, 2020, 08:14:45 PM
https://twitter.com/geoffreyvs/status/1328883986618331137
Post by: Institutional Control on November 17, 2020, 08:23:04 PM
How they gonna have an even number of voters on a canvessers board?!They have to have the same number from each party.
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Post by: waks on November 17, 2020, 09:25:45 PM
https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1328870637050490881
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 17, 2020, 09:28:19 PM
mini-crisis seems to have been averted.
https://twitter.com/geoffreyvs/status/1328883986618331137
So they are certifying, but calling on the SOS to audit the improprieties after the fact? Seems odd, but that's probably the way things are done in Detroit.
Post by: sys on November 17, 2020, 09:47:39 PM
https://twitter.com/DKarol/status/1328906420234936320
Post by: sys on November 17, 2020, 09:49:10 PM
that's probably the way things are done in Detroit.
they're just trying to save face after their attempt to disenfranchise voters caught more blowback than they were prepared to handle.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 17, 2020, 11:41:15 PM
Post by: puniraptor on November 17, 2020, 11:56:45 PM
I just want them to verify the mail in votes, but I don't think they can.
why couldnt they?
match a voted ballot to a registered voter and then match a registered voter to a dead 96 year old veteran
easy enough
Post by: sys on November 18, 2020, 12:24:55 AM
I just want them to verify the mail in votes, but I don't think they can.
what do you mean by verify?
if their system is like california's, there would be some level of verification in each of three steps - registration, request for a mail-in ballot and upon receipt of the ballot.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 18, 2020, 09:08:04 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2020, 09:13:54 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 18, 2020, 09:19:50 AM
Pennsylvania threw out signature verification claiming it would be too burdensome due to the high number of mail in ballots.
From my reading of the ruling, the more accurate description would be that there is no signature verification in the election code and the Supreme Court refused to create one.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 18, 2020, 09:23:17 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 18, 2020, 09:34:28 AM
Until then you're just trying to suppress voters.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 18, 2020, 09:36:45 AM
So we all agree that mail in voting, in particular, unsolicited mail in ballots, is an unverifiable form of voting and should be illegal.
what is an "unsolicited mail in ballot"?
And how would the acceptance of these favor one party over another?
Post by: 8manpick on November 18, 2020, 09:52:02 AM
Some places mailed ballots to all registered voters IIRC. Not sure why this is “unverifiable”.So we all agree that mail in voting, in particular, unsolicited mail in ballots, is an unverifiable form of voting and should be illegal.
what is an "unsolicited mail in ballot"?
And how would the acceptance of these favor one party over another?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 18, 2020, 09:53:17 AM
Some places mailed ballots to all registered voters IIRC. Not sure why this is “unverifiable”.So we all agree that mail in voting, in particular, unsolicited mail in ballots, is an unverifiable form of voting and should be illegal.
what is an "unsolicited mail in ballot"?
And how would the acceptance of these favor one party over another?
That is not at all unverifiable.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 18, 2020, 10:08:42 AM
So we all agree that mail in voting, in particular, unsolicited mail in ballots, is an unverifiable form of voting and should be illegal.
what is an "unsolicited mail in ballot"?
And how would the acceptance of these favor one party over another?
Some states/precincts mailed ballots to everyone on the rolls whether they asked for them or not, which had not been done before, not knowing if they were still at the address or even alive. Anyone could fill out the ballot and send it in.
Probably no advantage to either party, just a vote that shouldn't count.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 18, 2020, 10:34:10 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 18, 2020, 10:37:55 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 18, 2020, 10:43:53 AM
Well said ofc. Daris
the name "rowdy boy" is well earned
Post by: waks on November 18, 2020, 11:34:53 AM
Nevada is the only state that I heard of being complained about having done this.So we all agree that mail in voting, in particular, unsolicited mail in ballots, is an unverifiable form of voting and should be illegal.
what is an "unsolicited mail in ballot"?
And how would the acceptance of these favor one party over another?
Some states/precincts mailed ballots to everyone on the rolls whether they asked for them or not, which had not been done before, not knowing if they were still at the address or even alive. Anyone could fill out the ballot and send it in.
Probably no advantage to either party, just a vote that shouldn't count.
Post by: 8manpick on November 18, 2020, 11:40:03 AM
Post by: catastrophe on November 18, 2020, 03:06:39 PM
Holy crap! This dude is my hero.That was a pretty good speech.
https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1328870637050490881
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2020, 03:58:36 PM
November 4th 2016 to November 3rd 2020: The Era of extreme BidenVoter Concern about voting integrity
November 5th, 2020 (or thereabouts)A New Dawn: Questioning voting integrity is a THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY!! (BidenVoter)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svEuG_ekNT0&feature=youtu.be
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2020, 04:15:47 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2020, 04:24:07 PM
Jesus, this [redacted] stays repeating himself. Poly want a cracker?
It's amazing how enraged this SFBs gets about everything that is not in lockstep with his lunatic political dogma.
That's exactly the 2nd or 3rd post :lol: at how out of their minds BidenVoter was. Specifically in regard to the constant stream of implications that any Trump victory would be the work of nefarious manipulation of the voting process. One of the 4 or 5 prongs of the multi-front de-legitimization attack on the Trump presidency.
That's what color revolutions do you dumbass. Our CIA wrote the book on it.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 18, 2020, 08:20:53 PM
The fact that we vote on a Tuesday is the most ridiculous part of the whole thing. Make it a Saturday and do it in schools. Play music, make it a party.
Agree, should be Sat and Sun at most government/public buildings.
Post by: bucket on November 18, 2020, 10:56:54 PM
mini-crisis seems to have been averted.
https://twitter.com/geoffreyvs/status/1328883986618331137
https://twitter.com/DonovanSlack/status/1329277981492191232
These people suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccckkkkk
Post by: sys on November 18, 2020, 11:37:41 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 19, 2020, 09:26:26 AM
https://twitter.com/JoshuaADouglas/status/1329429436056342531
Post by: wetwillie on November 19, 2020, 09:35:30 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 19, 2020, 09:39:55 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1329408856733184008
Post by: steve dave on November 19, 2020, 11:29:39 AM
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Post by: sys on November 19, 2020, 11:45:25 AM
https://twitter.com/poniewozik/status/1329478991959515137
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 19, 2020, 11:47:58 AM
Post by: Cire on November 19, 2020, 12:38:29 PM
Post by: catastrophe on November 19, 2020, 12:49:09 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on November 19, 2020, 12:53:02 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 19, 2020, 06:21:37 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on November 19, 2020, 06:40:38 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 19, 2020, 08:35:28 PM
https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1329490975266398210
Post by: bucket on November 19, 2020, 08:51:34 PM
The recount recounted the illegal votes...
Post by: steve dave on November 19, 2020, 08:53:32 PM
https://twitter.com/ZackBornstein/status/1329565472694571008
Post by: cfbandyman on November 19, 2020, 09:00:37 PM
jesus christ, the party feed. I am going to change to indy.
https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1329490975266398210
I was laughing at all of this, now, it's starting to feel different
Post by: bucket on November 19, 2020, 09:08:53 PM
jesus christ, the party feed. I am going to change to indy.
https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1329490975266398210
I was laughing at all of this, now, it's starting to feel different
When did it become a five alarm fire for you guys? Wayne County electors refusing to certify the election was probably the first instance for me.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 19, 2020, 09:15:46 PM
jesus christ, the party feed. I am going to change to indy.
https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1329490975266398210
I was laughing at all of this, now, it's starting to feel different
When did it become a five alarm fire for you guys? Wayne County electors refusing to certify the election was probably the first instance for me.
I'm not all the way there yet, because it's all getting mushed in courts, the Wayne co stuff is more alarming but, sanity will win out, and how can you prove that, how can they rescind something they did? also Biden won Michigan by 150k, how many votes are they themselves responsible for? I understand I am putting a very, very high bar on something that is only 1" from the floor. It will be a civil war if he keeps pushing, guaranteed, I also think that is far, far down the road as of right now
Post by: Justwin on November 19, 2020, 09:30:16 PM
Only fair thing to do is have another vote
This was obvious on November 2.
Post by: 8manpick on November 19, 2020, 09:36:23 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 19, 2020, 09:41:31 PM
It has pretty clearly crossed into an illegitimate attempt for Trump to retain power. The greater Republican Party is complicit at this point.
like we all groggily wake up and look at ourselves and are like "this is what we do now?". but that's asking too much.
Post by: 8manpick on November 19, 2020, 09:55:44 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 19, 2020, 09:58:00 PM
Sorry SD I should have said “the greater Republican Party minus Ben Sasse” after seeing his statement in another thread
thank you, we all need to put tremendous respect on his name
Post by: puniraptor on November 19, 2020, 10:00:26 PM
(https://j.gifs.com/81Qoz5.gif)
(https://i.gifer.com/27WB.gif)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 19, 2020, 10:37:57 PM
We're going to have a large percentage of citizens that don't think Biden is legitimate.
Which was going to happen regardless of what trump did. TBF the last 12 years have been this way, we'll be fine.
Post by: waks on November 19, 2020, 11:50:38 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on November 20, 2020, 08:20:24 AM
correct.
https://twitter.com/poniewozik/status/1329478991959515137
no, I'm pretty sure it is very funny
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Post by: Phil Titola on November 20, 2020, 08:28:37 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on November 20, 2020, 08:30:20 AM
It's funny in execution, deeply disturbing in concept.
I mean I don't get all upset when my kids pretend to fight to the death with plastic light sabers, but others may feel differently.
Post by: Gooch on November 20, 2020, 09:22:40 AM
That's what kids do. It is not a fundamental assault on childhood like these assholes are trying to pull on democracy.It's funny in execution, deeply disturbing in concept.
I mean I don't get all upset when my kids pretend to fight to the death with plastic light sabers, but others may feel differently.
Post by: kstater on November 20, 2020, 09:24:47 AM
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1329798129638662148?s=19correct.
https://twitter.com/poniewozik/status/1329478991959515137
no, I'm pretty sure it is very funny
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 20, 2020, 09:25:32 AM
Post by: catastrophe on November 20, 2020, 09:32:17 AM
Yes that is my feeling. It really is sobering to think how politicians have started rallying around this idea ever since people elected a black president.We're going to have a large percentage of citizens that don't think Biden is legitimate.
Which was going to happen regardless of what trump did. TBF the last 12 years have been this way, we'll be fine.
What’s giving me comfort is that people are not questioning how the court process is playing out. Despite how petty we are when it comes to general political stuff, the overwhelming majority still have faith in the court system, which is what will end up kicking out all this crap.
Post by: Kat Kid on November 20, 2020, 09:43:25 AM
That's what kids do. It is not a fundamental assault on childhood like these assholes are trying to pull on democracy.It's funny in execution, deeply disturbing in concept.
I mean I don't get all upset when my kids pretend to fight to the death with plastic light sabers, but others may feel differently.
I think them doing it as a farce is pretty good for helping prevent it happening for real to be honest. Basically like a vaccine.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 20, 2020, 09:45:55 AM
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 20, 2020, 10:35:35 AM
After seeing the reaction of texags, I'm going to side with kk. It's only the q's left believing this stuff, even the magas are wondering why that press conference was such a shitshow.
Q guy i know said "all the evidence is in that press conference"
He is 100% convinced Trump will remain in office and this fraud will be exposed any minute. It's bizarre.. he's an bad person though so not too shocked.
Post by: kstater on November 20, 2020, 11:05:35 AM
At what point do you start wondering if they're doing it on purpose
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Post by: chum1 on November 20, 2020, 11:41:07 AM
https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674064218
Post by: ChiComCat on November 20, 2020, 11:51:08 AM
That's what kids do. It is not a fundamental assault on childhood like these assholes are trying to pull on democracy.It's funny in execution, deeply disturbing in concept.
I mean I don't get all upset when my kids pretend to fight to the death with plastic light sabers, but others may feel differently.
I think them doing it as a farce is pretty good for helping prevent it happening for real to be honest. Basically like a vaccine.
Perhaps. I'm not sure the Republicans controlling state legislatures won't develop a gameplan to better execute it in the future.
Post by: steve dave on November 20, 2020, 11:52:31 AM
https://twitter.com/ike_saul/status/1329799212091940870
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Post by: Kat Kid on November 20, 2020, 11:57:35 AM
For anyone who thinks our struggles with democracy aren't real, I'd recommend reading up on other countries you think the opposite of and asking yourself why our leaders are so different. We have a troubling history of our leaders undermining democratic elections here, as well, some of which is detailed in the book below.
https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674064218
For one, the CIA usually is on our side (sorry JFK) but besides that there are a few other differences.
Post by: chum1 on November 20, 2020, 12:02:23 PM
For anyone who thinks our struggles with democracy aren't real, I'd recommend reading up on other countries you think the opposite of and asking yourself why our leaders are so different. We have a troubling history of our leaders undermining democratic elections here, as well, some of which is detailed in the book below.
https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674064218
For one, the CIA usually is on our side (sorry JFK) but besides that there are a few other differences.
Is our side the democratic or undemocratic one?
Post by: Kat Kid on November 20, 2020, 02:07:55 PM
For anyone who thinks our struggles with democracy aren't real, I'd recommend reading up on other countries you think the opposite of and asking yourself why our leaders are so different. We have a troubling history of our leaders undermining democratic elections here, as well, some of which is detailed in the book below.
https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674064218
For one, the CIA usually is on our side (sorry JFK) but besides that there are a few other differences.
Is our side the democratic or undemocratic one?
The CIA is not doing a US coup for Trump.
Post by: chum1 on November 20, 2020, 02:14:36 PM
For anyone who thinks our struggles with democracy aren't real, I'd recommend reading up on other countries you think the opposite of and asking yourself why our leaders are so different. We have a troubling history of our leaders undermining democratic elections here, as well, some of which is detailed in the book below.
https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674064218
For one, the CIA usually is on our side (sorry JFK) but besides that there are a few other differences.
Is our side the democratic or undemocratic one?
The CIA is not doing a US coup for Trump.
They're not going to stop one either. Not sure why we're talking about them.
Post by: Gooch on November 20, 2020, 02:39:42 PM
Post by: sys on November 21, 2020, 07:47:35 AM
They're not going to stop one either. Not sure why we're talking about them.
katkid thinks the cia is omnipotent. it's very important to his worldview.
Post by: sys on November 21, 2020, 07:48:35 AM
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1329927553038118915
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 21, 2020, 09:31:04 AM
Yes that is my feeling. It really is sobering to think how politicians have started rallying around this idea ever since people elected a black president.We're going to have a large percentage of citizens that don't think Biden is legitimate.
Which was going to happen regardless of what trump did. TBF the last 12 years have been this way, we'll be fine.
What’s giving me comfort is that people are not questioning how the court process is playing out. Despite how petty we are when it comes to general political stuff, the overwhelming majority still have faith in the court system, which is what will end up kicking out all this crap.
(https://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2012/09/23/20120923-171949-pic-224799225.jpg)
Post by: 8manpick on November 21, 2020, 11:53:21 AM
this is clear-eyed in a way that much of the coverage of trump's efforts to steal the election has not been. i recommend reading it.That is good
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1329927553038118915
Post by: wiley on November 21, 2020, 08:00:59 PM
Yeah, that was solid.this is clear-eyed in a way that much of the coverage of trump's efforts to steal the election has not been. i recommend reading it.That is good
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1329927553038118915
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 21, 2020, 10:23:49 PM
Yes that is my feeling. It really is sobering to think how politicians have started rallying around this idea ever since people elected a black president.We're going to have a large percentage of citizens that don't think Biden is legitimate.
Which was going to happen regardless of what trump did. TBF the last 12 years have been this way, we'll be fine.
What’s giving me comfort is that people are not questioning how the court process is playing out. Despite how petty we are when it comes to general political stuff, the overwhelming majority still have faith in the court system, which is what will end up kicking out all this crap.
(https://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2012/09/23/20120923-171949-pic-224799225.jpg)
Someone help me understand what Florida's shitty ballots 20 years ago have anything to the conversation the photo is attached to?
Post by: sys on November 21, 2020, 10:50:58 PM
https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1330343743417937921
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fraud-insight-idUSKBN2801D4
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 22, 2020, 10:17:08 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 22, 2020, 10:33:35 AM
The thought of those fat magas waging a civil war has always been funny. They talked all big but they have been absolutely cowering in their mom's basement.Can you imagine a pack of those militia types going up against a platoon of Rangers? They would be turned into hamburger in less than 45 seconds.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 22, 2020, 11:01:51 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 22, 2020, 11:52:45 AM
The thought of those fat magas waging a civil war has always been funny. They talked all big but they have been absolutely cowering in their mom's basement.
Remember how scared they got of BLM protests?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 22, 2020, 12:09:11 PM
The thought of those fat magas waging a civil war has always been funny. They talked all big but they have been absolutely cowering in their mom's basement.
Remember how scared they got of BLM protests?
Lots of pictures of ammunition/guns
Post by: Trim on November 22, 2020, 01:09:26 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on November 22, 2020, 01:18:59 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 22, 2020, 01:47:42 PM
Post by: bucket on November 22, 2020, 01:54:50 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on November 22, 2020, 01:57:20 PM
They're not going to stop one either. Not sure why we're talking about them.
katkid thinks the cia is omnipotent. it's very important to his worldview.
no I don't and they aren't all powerful either. I think I'll pass listening to the same people that told me Russia stole the last election, getting all worked up about Guiliani and Gen. Flynn's lawyer holding literally hilarious press conferences and going on Newsmax and saying all manner of wild crap as some deep stain on our democracy.
there are plenty of actual bad things the US has done, is doing and will continue to do, but Trump getting big mad about losing is not worth worrying about.
Post by: chum1 on November 22, 2020, 03:53:52 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 22, 2020, 05:13:44 PM
https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1330638725362163712
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1330649478097940481
Post by: Phil Titola on November 22, 2020, 07:54:49 PM
Ya, I like MontanaWe have to make some sacrifices and it's a lot of land. Don't give them ocean access.
Post by: Trim on November 22, 2020, 10:56:16 PM
Post by: waks on November 23, 2020, 01:24:45 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2020, 04:08:12 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 23, 2020, 05:51:15 AM
Post by: bucket on November 23, 2020, 07:51:54 AM
I do wonder how quickly the transition gets formalized.
Hopefully, we find out soon. Emily Murphy is set to speak to the House today.
Post by: kstater on November 23, 2020, 09:13:08 AM
I do wonder how quickly the transition gets formalized.Would think her hands are tied after 270 certifies
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2020, 10:01:57 AM
Post by: 8manpick on November 23, 2020, 10:03:59 AM
libs are being insufferableThis is what they do
Post by: steve dave on November 23, 2020, 10:08:03 AM
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Post by: kstater on November 23, 2020, 10:30:40 AM
People dragging Emily Murphy also annoys me, libs are being insufferable about this. Can we not just let these results be certified before losing our crap at bureaucrats?What is the problem with begining the transition? If Trump ends up catching the hail mary from the 1, you'd just revoke the security clearances.
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 23, 2020, 12:42:30 PM
A thing libs love is to be in the right but be so shitty about it that people begin to root against them anyway.
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They have no chill.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 23, 2020, 01:49:49 PM
lmao at this list
https://twitter.com/BrendanBuck/status/1330908849562394625
Post by: waks on November 23, 2020, 02:25:56 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 23, 2020, 02:30:27 PM
He'll be dead by then. The scarier part is that DJTj is the number 3 choice.
That would be amaze.
Post by: puniraptor on November 23, 2020, 05:27:16 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 23, 2020, 05:38:22 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on November 23, 2020, 05:41:04 PM
do I at least get an apology from the "death of the republic!" crowd?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2020, 09:12:35 PM
People dragging Emily Murphy also annoys me, libs are being insufferable about this. Can we not just let these results be certified before losing our crap at bureaucrats?What is the problem with begining the transition? If Trump ends up catching the hail mary from the 1, you'd just revoke the security clearances.
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The transition was always going to happen, there was never a risk of it not, and if it didn't Emily Murphy wouldn't have been the reason.
Post by: bucket on November 23, 2020, 10:12:18 PM
Very soft language when talking about protecting the US from wholesale election fraud that threatens our democracy. :fatty:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331086969183621120
Post by: bucket on November 24, 2020, 09:28:47 PM
Take that to the courts!
:lol:
Post by: sys on November 24, 2020, 09:29:05 PM
https://twitter.com/TimAlberta/status/1331430752832135168
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 25, 2020, 01:39:36 PM
[youtube]https://youtu.be/LgWI2e8xDVo[/youtube]
Post by: steve dave on November 26, 2020, 08:44:30 AM
https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1331965109669933056
https://twitter.com/TheEpicDept/status/1331613573815160838
Post by: CHONGS on November 26, 2020, 12:39:41 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 30, 2020, 08:52:26 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoFCTrOXUAEyQU2?format=png&name=small)
Post by: catastrophe on November 30, 2020, 08:54:21 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 30, 2020, 08:55:33 AM
How long did it take Killary to concede again?
Should I get the interview of Hillary telling Joe not to concede anything?
66% surveyed believed the Russian's hacked the results. :lol:
Post by: MadCat on November 30, 2020, 08:59:07 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 30, 2020, 09:01:38 AM
Well there was that one guy that Trump fired, but his job was to keep the Russians out. He claims it was the most secure election ever, but he was fired. So he either kept the Russians out but didn't play by the script or he didn't keep the Russians out which kinda supports the 2016 claims by the Democrats. :dunno:
Only Russians have hackers (MadCat)
If you believe that the Russians hacked the election results in 2016, you can thank President Stand Down and NSA Stand Down. They told the national cyber security director to do . . . nothing.
Post by: MadCat on November 30, 2020, 09:07:00 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 30, 2020, 09:13:56 AM
You're right, Sidney Powell did blame the Commies, which doesn't include Russia any more.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: star seed 7 on November 30, 2020, 10:03:07 AM
You're right, Sidney Powell did blame the Commies, which doesn't include Russia any more.
Also Iran. Though I must admit that I do not know if Iran is communist.
Post by: MadCat on November 30, 2020, 11:34:31 AM
I think the Communist party was banned in IranYou're right, Sidney Powell did blame the Commies, which doesn't include Russia any more.
Also Iran. Though I must admit that I do not know if Iran is communist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Iran (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Iran)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 30, 2020, 12:28:58 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 30, 2020, 10:16:25 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on December 01, 2020, 01:50:00 PM
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Post by: bucket on December 01, 2020, 01:53:40 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 01, 2020, 01:58:07 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1333771923214491648
Post by: sys on December 01, 2020, 11:48:07 PM
https://twitter.com/jamesrbuk/status/1333919015174098950
Post by: MadCat on December 02, 2020, 08:53:43 AM
appreciate this dude.Yes
https://twitter.com/jamesrbuk/status/1333919015174098950
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 02, 2020, 09:01:37 AM
https://twitter.com/ap/status/1333853728944889858?s=21
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We are supposed to trust in Barr right?
Post by: bucket on December 02, 2020, 09:13:08 AM
https://twitter.com/ap/status/1333853728944889858?s=21
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We are supposed to trust in Barr right?
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1333902009125249028
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 02, 2020, 09:24:37 AM
Post by: wetwillie on December 02, 2020, 10:55:09 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on December 02, 2020, 11:04:10 AM
When does the electoral college cast their ballot
Dec 14
Post by: steve dave on December 02, 2020, 09:03:10 PM
https://twitter.com/MarisaKabas/status/1334315220815278080
Post by: Brock Landers on December 02, 2020, 09:35:40 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 02, 2020, 11:34:21 PM
FOLKS
https://twitter.com/MarisaKabas/status/1334315220815278080
:ROFL:
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1334344279305695232
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 03, 2020, 09:00:15 PM
Post by: catastrophe on December 03, 2020, 09:04:19 PM
Post by: sys on December 04, 2020, 08:28:14 AM
https://twitter.com/WinWithJMC/status/1334679018411597825
Post by: star seed 7 on December 04, 2020, 08:46:25 AM
Post by: Cire on December 04, 2020, 09:06:49 AM
just like the dudes that strut around the gym locker room. It's an ego/generational thing. If you're ever at a men's only country club or something watch out.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 04, 2020, 05:18:53 PM
This of course kicked off 4 years of a multi-pronged effort of de-legitimization of the Trump administration. One prong of that effort was to build a case that wholly implied that if Trump won in 2020 that his victory would be achieved via illegal methods. This narrative prompted Hillary Clinton to implore ChiCom Joe Biden and Biden Family Inc. to not concede anything. During the last 4 years, BidenVoter leadership has stood in the various halls of Congress and elsewhere and continually planted the bread crumbs of a Russian (or other entity) hacked election. I documented multiple videos and articles where various BidenVoter Leaders said exactly those kinds of thing. Which means the addled brains on this board have already forgotten.
Now, any investigation into possible wrong doing in the voting process is a threat to our Democracy because ChiCom Joe won.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 05, 2020, 06:54:38 AM
Trump voters and elected Republicans saying Biden’s election is illegitimate have a much tougher case to make, because this year Trump got his ass beat in both the electoral college and the popular vote. The will of the people was made extremely clear in this election, but even moreso last night when Biden’s lead widened to 7 million votes. Republicans claiming illegitimacy have a much harder case to make, and frankly it seems pathetic, like they’re whining about the refs after losing by 35.
Trump’s 0-2 in elections held in any other country. :frown:
Post by: steve dave on December 05, 2020, 08:20:07 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 05, 2020, 08:26:12 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 05, 2020, 01:28:55 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 05, 2020, 02:59:49 PM
Post by: chum1 on December 05, 2020, 03:01:47 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 05, 2020, 03:08:11 PM
I think most people are still fooled. But far fewer are.And they are in line for the vaccine before me. The one they are all over Facebook saying is a farce.
Wild.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 05, 2020, 05:14:29 PM
These are the same people who actually believe that Barrack Obama didn’t think Joe Biden was a complete joke while actually believing the lunch pail Joe narrative.
Not to mention the hollow pantsuit that will be the VP (near future POTUS). Utterly devoid of any level of substance.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 05, 2020, 05:47:13 PM
The usual massive deflection from the usual suspects.
These are the same people who actually believe that Barrack Obama didn’t think Joe Biden was a complete joke while actually believing the lunch pail Joe narrative.
Not to mention the hollow pantsuit that will be the VP (near future POTUS). Utterly devoid of any level of substance.
Goddamn, after over a decade of rage you still don’t know how to spell Barack?
Let’s play a game:
WHAT WILL DAX BLAME THIS MISSPELLING ON??
A) Somehow being “in a hurry,” even though he’s clearly retired,
B) Not paying attention to what he types because he’s too busy infiltrating ChiCom Joe and The Deep State,
C) Simply overlooking the first name because he’s forever been too busy pounding the dang stone to 44’s middle name,
D) being too busy building pipe bombs to send to Raffensperger to pay attention to trivialities like spelling,
E) breathlessly winding yarn around a corkboard while poring over Killary’s emails, or
F) He’s a gimp.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 05, 2020, 05:56:18 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 05, 2020, 05:58:10 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 05, 2020, 06:07:27 PM
Southern conservative. LMAO
Birmingham circles. LMAO
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 05, 2020, 08:10:49 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 05, 2020, 08:26:16 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 05, 2020, 09:05:47 PM
Skinny-- the Obamas are not your friends. Biden is not your cool uncle. Kamala is not your auntie. They are just politicians.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 05, 2020, 10:25:05 PM
I’ll have to take part of your post under consideration.
Post by: bucket on December 05, 2020, 10:38:53 PM
the machine screwed him over.
Take us to school, Dax.
Post by: steve dave on December 05, 2020, 10:43:36 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 05, 2020, 11:17:30 PM
THIS THREAD HAS GOTTEN HORNY AF :love:
Katdaddy, no!
Post by: steve dave on December 06, 2020, 12:23:19 AM
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 06, 2020, 12:31:40 AM
Hard to believe but SkinnyBenny melting down about someone not spelling Barack Obama's name correctly and criticizing Biden is at least as bad to me as dax's pit posts.
Skinny-- the Obamas are not your friends. Biden is not your cool uncle. Kamala is not your auntie. They are just politicians.
Spell checking is skibens thing though
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 06, 2020, 01:11:55 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 06, 2020, 09:16:15 AM
You being a Bernie Bot and knowing he’s still dismissing that the machine screwed him over.
I’ll have to take part of your post under consideration.
Bernie lost because the mod squad suicide bombed him.
Post by: steve dave on December 06, 2020, 10:27:09 AM
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 06, 2020, 05:54:00 PM
Bernie lost, again, because democrats don’t like his policies
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This has been proven false over and over again, particularly with democrats. As a centrist republican, I can certainly understand you pushing that narrative. Democrats that do it are disingenuous frauds.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/27/majority-of-americans-support-progressive-policies-such-as-paid-maternity-leave-free-college.html
https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2019/11/9/democratic-voters-prefer-progressive-policies-not-centrist-policies
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/us/politics/bernie-sanders-progressives-elizabeth-warren.html
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/poll-marijuana-legalization-data-for-progress-radical-ideas-popular-aoc.html
Post by: sys on December 06, 2020, 06:27:56 PM
Bernie lost because the mod squad suicide bombed him.
i don't know how a person can type this with a straight face.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 06, 2020, 06:54:18 PM
Bernie lost because the mod squad suicide bombed him.
i don't know how a person can type this with a straight face.
I don't agree with that, but it sure in the hell didn't help. Biden was still getting his ass kicked going into Super Tuesday. I'm not sure if Bernie wins if the field didn't capitulate all at once, but I'm very sure Biden wouldn't have. If we're on a continuum that's certainly more right than Bernie lost because people don't like his policies.
We have enough evidence to show that people are generally misinformed about who they vote for and more frequently than not, vote against their own interests.
Post by: steve dave on December 08, 2020, 07:46:36 AM
https://twitter.com/mattzeitlin/status/1336305589102780418
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Post by: bucket on December 08, 2020, 07:53:31 AM
Post by: catastrophe on December 08, 2020, 09:44:47 AM
I don’t think it would be a stretch to call him among the biggest POS to ever hold a TX statewide office.
Post by: Institutional Control on December 09, 2020, 08:54:47 AM
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Post by: MadCat on December 09, 2020, 09:12:11 AM
Post by: sys on December 10, 2020, 04:29:39 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 14, 2020, 08:35:42 AM
https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1338484357389017090
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Post by: MadCat on December 14, 2020, 09:04:41 AM
Post by: catastrophe on December 14, 2020, 01:11:12 PM
So basically I think Miller is saying Trump’s electors are going to meet and cast their votes in favor of Trump, which is basically their entire job. Just so happens it means absolutely nothing if you don’t win the statewide vote.
Post by: Cire on December 14, 2020, 01:53:48 PM
My memory is fuzzy on this (and I may have misunderstood it the first time), but at least in some states when you register to run for President you provide a list of your electors if you win, so basically a vote for you is a vote for those people to appear at the electoral college vote.
So basically I think Miller is saying Trump’s electors are going to meet and cast their votes in favor of Trump, which is basically their entire job. Just so happens it means absolutely nothing if you don’t win the statewide vote.
Yeah, but not all states do it the same? thus faithless electors can happen?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 14, 2020, 03:36:26 PM
What time do the results get certified? :impatient:My memory is fuzzy on this (and I may have misunderstood it the first time), but at least in some states when you register to run for President you provide a list of your electors if you win, so basically a vote for you is a vote for those people to appear at the electoral college vote.
So basically I think Miller is saying Trump’s electors are going to meet and cast their votes in favor of Trump, which is basically their entire job. Just so happens it means absolutely nothing if you don’t win the statewide vote.
Yeah, but not all states do it the same? thus faithless electors can happen?
Post by: sys on December 14, 2020, 03:42:45 PM
Yeah, but not all states do it the same? thus faithless electors can happen?
i think they all do it more or less the same.
Post by: catastrophe on December 14, 2020, 04:00:05 PM
The main difference between states is in how they treat faithless electors. Some impose criminal sanctions, and I think others make it literally impossible to vote against the candidate by automatically replacing them until they vote how they’re supposed to.
Not positive about that second one but I think I read it at one point.
Post by: catastrophe on December 14, 2020, 04:01:18 PM
Post by: sys on December 14, 2020, 04:06:56 PM
I think others make it literally impossible to vote against the candidate by automatically replacing them until they vote how they’re supposed to.
that's right.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 16, 2020, 08:10:39 AM
Post by: bucket on December 17, 2020, 08:21:19 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 17, 2020, 08:23:23 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 18, 2020, 09:30:23 AM
https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1339636683168501762
Post by: steve dave on December 21, 2020, 03:30:04 PM
https://twitter.com/jeremyrroebuck/status/1341126023870558208
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2020, 10:43:24 PM
Post by: catastrophe on December 22, 2020, 01:20:31 PM
How many times will Republican voters get caught committing voter fraud before the party realizes that making voter fraud a cause celebre only hurts them?It doesn’t hurt them be because the cases will always be so sparse, people can care about and ignore whichever ones they want. Democrats think Republicans commit more voter fraud and Republicans think Democrats commit more. I don’t see that ever changing.
Post by: Institutional Control on December 23, 2020, 01:52:13 PM
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Post by: steve dave on December 23, 2020, 01:52:21 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1341549479271559172
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Post by: wetwillie on December 23, 2020, 02:04:47 PM
Post by: chum1 on December 23, 2020, 02:26:55 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 23, 2020, 02:46:28 PM
Post by: catastrophe on December 23, 2020, 02:56:53 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 28, 2020, 10:46:24 AM
https://twitter.com/rasmussen_poll/status/1343193422996393987
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Post by: Institutional Control on December 28, 2020, 11:30:30 AM
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 28, 2020, 11:31:40 AM
Polling is our passion
https://twitter.com/rasmussen_poll/status/1343193422996393987
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Yikes. Rasmussen also in the pocket of big MAGA, I see. In this fanatic scenario they've laid out, all this would do is take the presidency to the house of representatives, you ever think of that one, Stan?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 28, 2020, 11:55:32 AM
Post by: catastrophe on December 28, 2020, 12:10:58 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 28, 2020, 01:57:17 PM
https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1343590550960820227
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Post by: wetwillie on December 28, 2020, 02:12:12 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 28, 2020, 02:27:57 PM
Pence made his bed by agreeing to be VP so I don’t feel bad for him but hes about to become the scapegoat for the trumpers
Now that Dominion called their bluff I agree.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 28, 2020, 02:47:59 PM
Pence made his bed by agreeing to be VP so I don’t feel bad for him but hes about to become the scapegoat for the trumpersWhat date will we see the first tweet from DJT denouncing Pence as a tool of the DeepState?
Post by: wetwillie on December 28, 2020, 03:24:02 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 28, 2020, 04:34:51 PM
They already have started saying he is part of the Epstein Island group with John Roberts. His last few weeks in the administration are going to be unpleasant for him.
how absolutely maga predictable.
Post by: catastrophe on December 28, 2020, 08:50:15 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 28, 2020, 09:19:54 PM
That’s because like 25% of MAGA stuff that catches on is from Russian agents who have the easiest job in the world.
Agreed, the Russians absolutely played Hillary and then Biden Voter with clandestine/national/international intelligence HOF worthy aplomb.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 29, 2020, 01:19:36 AM
Polling is our passion
https://twitter.com/rasmussen_poll/status/1343193422996393987
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https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1343757000132472832
Post by: passranch on December 29, 2020, 10:30:10 AM
Post by: steve dave on December 31, 2020, 03:42:39 PM
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1344749990703411205
Post by: wetwillie on December 31, 2020, 05:24:18 PM
Post by: catastrophe on December 31, 2020, 05:44:00 PM
Voting is CANCELLED!This whole series of events has me imagining what it was like to be a decent rational human being in Nazi Germany.
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1344749990703411205
Post by: chum1 on December 31, 2020, 06:06:00 PM
Voting is CANCELLED!This whole series of events has me imagining what it was like to be a decent rational human being in Nazi Germany.
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1344749990703411205
Based on what I've read on that subject, you're living it, dude. Very much like trying to imagine living through the 1918 pandemic.
Post by: sys on January 01, 2021, 03:09:46 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on January 01, 2021, 09:46:14 AM
we're probably still only around 1923 on the nazi ascendancy calendar, so no worries for a while.Would like to get at least 8 years of equity gains before the Great Depression so I am hoping we are at 1920-21.
Post by: bucket on January 01, 2021, 11:39:59 AM
Voting is CANCELLED!This whole series of events has me imagining what it was like to be a decent rational human being in Nazi Germany.
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1344749990703411205
Based on what I've read on that subject, you're living it, dude. Very much like trying to imagine living through the 1918 pandemic.
Dax is a nazi
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 03, 2021, 07:06:12 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 03, 2021, 01:19:21 PM
https://www.kwch.com/2021/01/02/roger-marshall-kansas-newest-us-senator-will-join-group-challenging-2020-presidential-election-results/ (https://www.kwch.com/2021/01/02/roger-marshall-kansas-newest-us-senator-will-join-group-challenging-2020-presidential-election-results/)He’s a quick study when it comes to grifting:
(https://i.imgur.com/Y0y9U2m.jpg)
Post by: sys on January 03, 2021, 03:34:01 PM
So which case is stronger, congress members are involved in a loosely based conspiracy of misinformation and sedition or large scale voter fraud?
i don't think there's any question which of these is supported by evidence.
Post by: Institutional Control on January 03, 2021, 05:27:16 PM
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Post by: sys on January 03, 2021, 10:01:46 PM
https://twitter.com/normative/status/1345928403912970240
Post by: wetwillie on January 03, 2021, 10:08:45 PM
Post by: kim carnes on January 03, 2021, 10:23:19 PM
i'm not super optimistic about the future of the country.
https://twitter.com/normative/status/1345928403912970240
I think we all assumed the embarrassment would be enough to stop anyone from trying
Post by: chum1 on January 03, 2021, 10:30:16 PM
https://twitter.com/dceiver/status/1345883003327709185
Post by: catastrophe on January 03, 2021, 10:38:13 PM
i'm not super optimistic about the future of the country.Agree with this. But recognizing that Trump only felt imboldened to do so because of tribalism, it would be unwise for Biden to pursue criminal charges. I don’t think he’ll do it, but IMO Biden should pardon Trump for treason as his first presidential act.
https://twitter.com/normative/status/1345928403912970240
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 03, 2021, 11:25:10 PM
i'm not super optimistic about the future of the country.Agree with this. But recognizing that Trump only felt imboldened to do so because of tribalism, it would be unwise for Biden to pursue criminal charges. I don’t think he’ll do it, but IMO Biden should pardon Trump for treason as his first presidential act.
https://twitter.com/normative/status/1345928403912970240
....da fuq?
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2021, 11:33:46 PM
i'm not super optimistic about the future of the country.Agree with this. But recognizing that Trump only felt imboldened to do so because of tribalism, it would be unwise for Biden to pursue criminal charges. I don’t think he’ll do it, but IMO Biden should pardon Trump for treason as his first presidential act.
https://twitter.com/normative/status/1345928403912970240
The reason to be worried about the country is that we long ago allowed, no required, government officials to do what's politically convenient instead of what's right. We have a sitting president on tape trying to convince someone who is tasked directly with protecting our democracy, you can make the claim that's worse than literal murder. We have this and not only do we have people willing to allow the president to get away with this, but there are enough citizens who don't care enough about this and who will excuse turning a blind eye because grabbing for every bit of power is more important than anything else.
That willingness to do anything and everything to snatch up every bit of power available is exactly why we are where we are right now. Ignoring this because it's politically expedient is an endorsement for escalating this criminal behavior. Don't you think it has to stop at some point?
Americans pretending to care about democracy is laughable, sad, and infuriating. Capitalism has choked out a true democracy.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2021, 11:37:29 PM
i'm not super optimistic about the future of the country.Agree with this. But recognizing that Trump only felt imboldened to do so because of tribalism, it would be unwise for Biden to pursue criminal charges. I don’t think he’ll do it, but IMO Biden should pardon Trump for treason as his first presidential act.
https://twitter.com/normative/status/1345928403912970240
....da fuq?
I'm certain a majority of Americans share his view though. Most people don't have the least bit of motivation to give a crap, let them do whatever the hell they want to, I'm making the mortgage in my $350,000 house just fine.
Post by: sys on January 04, 2021, 12:31:25 AM
We have this and not only do we have people willing to allow the president to get away with this, but there are enough citizens who don't care enough about this and who will excuse turning a blind eye because grabbing for every bit of power is more important than anything else.
i agree. it is far worse that we have an electorate that tolerates/demands these actions from their elected representatives than it is that we have elected representatives that are responsive to those incentives.
Capitalism has choked out a true democracy.
this part is, to me, a nonsensical non sequitur.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 04, 2021, 12:49:55 AM
We have this and not only do we have people willing to allow the president to get away with this, but there are enough citizens who don't care enough about this and who will excuse turning a blind eye because grabbing for every bit of power is more important than anything else.
i agree. it is far worse that we have an electorate that tolerates/demands these actions from their elected representatives than it is that we have elected representatives that are responsive to those incentives.Capitalism has choked out a true democracy.
this part is, to me, a nonsensical non sequitur.
Eh, maybe.
It was a generation but I think our brand of capitalism specifically provides incentives for the general electorate to not care about this. People are willing to accept this behavior because there is nothing to gain from doing so. Government corruption is a much bigger deal in other places because the perception is that corruption has a greater affect on the citizens.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 04, 2021, 08:58:58 AM
i'm not super optimistic about the future of the country.Agree with this. But recognizing that Trump only felt imboldened to do so because of tribalism, it would be unwise for Biden to pursue criminal charges. I don’t think he’ll do it, but IMO Biden should pardon Trump for treason as his first presidential act.
https://twitter.com/normative/status/1345928403912970240
That's a terrible idea.
Post by: catastrophe on January 04, 2021, 09:40:21 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 04, 2021, 09:44:51 AM
Post by: catastrophe on January 04, 2021, 09:50:51 AM
It’s sad, but the biggest reason no one cares about what Trump is doing right now is because he’s so bad at it and they’re just completely over him. In some ways though that’s the most dreaded outcome for Trump. To just fade into obscurity despite every attempt to get people talking about him.
I do think folks like Cruz should face serious consequences for their part in trying to legitimize everything.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 04, 2021, 09:54:48 AM
He won’t do anything. That’s basically the platform he ran on.
It’s sad, but the biggest reason no one cares about what Trump is doing right now is because he’s so bad at it and they’re just completely over him. In some ways though that’s the most dreaded outcome for Trump. To just fade into obscurity despite every attempt to get people talking about him.
I do think folks like Cruz should face serious consequences for their part in trying to legitimize everything.
I'm all for hanging them and I don't even support the death penalty.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 04, 2021, 11:15:01 AM
He won’t do anything. That’s basically the platform he ran on.
It’s sad, but the biggest reason no one cares about what Trump is doing right now is because he’s so bad at it and they’re just completely over him. In some ways though that’s the most dreaded outcome for Trump. To just fade into obscurity despite every attempt to get people talking about him.
I do think folks like Cruz should face serious consequences for their part in trying to legitimize everything.
So punish the sex worker and not the pimp who is forcing her into labor?
Post by: catastrophe on January 04, 2021, 11:27:06 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 04, 2021, 11:33:52 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 04, 2021, 12:49:17 PM
I actually think Trump is the sex worker in this scenario. Congressional Republicans have more power right now, they’re just exploiting his name in a futile gesture to garner more support from their base.
So you haven't moved beyond thinking this dude is nothing more than a harmless idiot? Trump's clearly the straw stirring this drink, they aren't using him as some meat shield, they are hanging on to his train of lunacy. The greatest voice for trumpism right now is a "man" who allowed trump to repeatedly and publicly call his wife ugly and his dad a murder. Stop acting like trump is a passenger.
Post by: cfbandyman on January 04, 2021, 12:52:10 PM
I actually think Drumpf is the sex worker in this scenario. Congressional Republicans have more power right now, they’re just exploiting his name in a futile gesture to garner more support from their base.
So you haven't moved beyond thinking this dude is nothing more than a harmless idiot? Drumpf's clearly the straw stirring this drink, they aren't using him as some meat shield, they are hanging on to his train of lunacy. The greatest voice for trumpism right now is a "man" who allowed trump to repeatedly and publicly call his wife ugly and his dad a murder. Stop acting like trump is a passenger.
I'm glad you but man in quotation marks because Ted Cruz lost every right to his balls the second he allowed trump to cut them off. What a pathetic shell of a sniveling man
Post by: catastrophe on January 04, 2021, 01:35:19 PM
Just based on what has happened so far, he’s as harmless now as he will be in a few weeks. And short of staging some type of military coup that won’t change (I wouldn’t doubt he explored the idea, but I also expect there is next to zero support for it).I actually think Trump is the sex worker in this scenario. Congressional Republicans have more power right now, they’re just exploiting his name in a futile gesture to garner more support from their base.
So you haven't moved beyond thinking this dude is nothing more than a harmless idiot? Trump's clearly the straw stirring this drink, they aren't using him as some meat shield, they are hanging on to his train of lunacy. The greatest voice for trumpism right now is a "man" who allowed trump to repeatedly and publicly call his wife ugly and his dad a murder. Stop acting like trump is a passenger.
It’s still a dangerous ideology, but the success of it is entirely dependent on others to keep alive. You make Trump a martyr now and it only bolsters those guys. Making him irrelevant is the best you can do IMO.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 05, 2021, 10:02:35 AM
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Either way, the runoffs remain an afterthought for Trump. He spent much of the last half hour of his speech reciting the same lies he told during an hour-long conversation with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, on Saturday, a recording of which Raffensperger’s office shared with the press. The president also suggested that Vice President Mike Pence, who serves a largely ceremonial role overseeing the count of Electoral College votes on Wednesday, might try to swing the result to Trump, though he didn’t specify how.
“I hope our great vice president comes through for us. If he doesn’t come through, I won’t like him quite as much,” he said, grinning. “He’s going to have a lot to say with it.”
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“He’s going to have a lot to say with it.”
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 05, 2021, 10:24:04 AM
Post by: chum1 on January 05, 2021, 10:30:25 AM
Voting is CANCELLED!This whole series of events has me imagining what it was like to be a decent rational human being in Nazi Germany.
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1344749990703411205
Based on what I've read on that subject, you're living it, dude. Very much like trying to imagine living through the 1918 pandemic.
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346486911611908096
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 05, 2021, 10:52:19 AM
Not surprised that Arnold is a Deep State RINO after all the time he has spent cozying up to Hollywood Elites.Voting is CANCELLED!This whole series of events has me imagining what it was like to be a decent rational human being in Nazi Germany.
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1344749990703411205
Based on what I've read on that subject, you're living it, dude. Very much like trying to imagine living through the 1918 pandemic.
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346486911611908096
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 05, 2021, 11:02:20 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on January 05, 2021, 11:07:05 AM
Obv the Terminator is deep state/skynet.
Butthurt over the failure of The Apprentice on his watch.
Post by: chum1 on January 06, 2021, 11:11:38 AM
https://twitter.com/thefix/status/1346865014909628416
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2021, 12:26:27 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2021, 12:33:46 PM
Didn't even lose to a blue wave coming in. It's just a red rip tide out.
Fairly accurate
Post by: chum1 on January 06, 2021, 03:22:59 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on January 06, 2021, 03:25:51 PM
When Congress reconvenes, I wonder if the shithead objectors are still going to object or if they'll let it go and do the rough ridin' count thing without the objections.
Sadly I bet they still do but man you'd hope the lesson had been learned.
Post by: catastrophe on January 06, 2021, 03:40:50 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2021, 03:41:35 PM
Herbert Hoover level performance
https://twitter.com/thefix/status/1346865014909628416
so much winning it turned into historical losing.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2021, 04:05:31 PM
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2021, 04:12:35 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2021, 04:14:30 PM
There is going to be questions on how secure the votes were during all of this and challenges made around that.
so....maga is going to say since maga was waddling around the capitol for a few minutes that maga can't get a fair count?
lmfao if so.
Post by: sys on January 06, 2021, 04:20:54 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2021, 04:21:49 PM
maga was worse for the GOP (by far) than the tea party
maga was tea party before it knew it was maga though
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2021, 04:26:24 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2021, 04:36:13 PM
maga is the catnip of people who have always hated the gubment, who sit in small country bars talking about how they would change things if they were in charge, and talk about what really is the matter with America. It just took the confederate flaggers in the south a while to realize their in general sentiments were felt by most people in small town USA, since they never left their own towns for so long, and then poof, this magical thing called the internet comes along and now it's not just some people in one area, it's all over.
that, and the catnip of suburban dads like kazz dub and texags who constantly feel like the nice little life they set up for themselves is somehow being assaulted by some unruly neighbors like it's it's a fight in a HOA meeting, as long as their PTO isn't overly used up for cause of course
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2021, 04:39:38 PM
There are lot of confederate flag types in places you wouldn't expect, like Michigan, or rural Canada.
maga is the catnip of people who have always hated the gubment, who sit in small country bars talking about how they would change things if they were in charge, and talk about what really is the matter with America. It just took the confederate flaggers in the south a while to realize their in general sentiments were felt by most people in small town USA, since they never left their own towns for so long, and then poof, this magical thing called the internet comes along and now it's not just some people in one area, it's all over.
that, and the catnip of suburban dads like kazz dub and texags who constantly feel like the nice little life they set up for themselves is somehow being assaulted by some unruly neighbors like it's it's a fight in a HOA meeting, as long as their PTO isn't overly used up for cause of course
Then it devolves in to the larping in DC today.
Post by: chum1 on January 06, 2021, 11:09:24 PM
Post by: Trim on January 06, 2021, 11:10:23 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2021, 11:17:24 PM
I like how people clap when there isn't a senator joinng the objection because it's like they're trying to make the downgrade house objectors feel alone and stupid.
Agreed
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2021, 11:18:12 PM
Why does pence and that lady have to stand through the whole thing?
Not sure, but he seems genuinely pissed off over all of this, so over all of this
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 18, 2021, 09:33:51 AM
I'm sure ChiCom Joe is really going to give Xi and the CCP the ol what for, and that ProgFacists are going to launch a years long total meltdown and demand that the Chinese be dealt with in the most harshest of terms.
Meanwhile early signs are ChiCom Joe indicates he's going to put a halt to the U.S.'s move to global energy dominance as quickly as he can and both President Xi and Vlad Putin thank him profusely in advance.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 01, 2021, 12:04:46 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 01, 2021, 12:53:10 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 01, 2021, 01:08:47 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 05, 2021, 02:28:38 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 05, 2021, 02:49:42 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 14, 2021, 07:10:22 PM
Post by: MadCat on February 22, 2021, 02:55:48 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/dominion-sues-mypillow-ceo-mike-lindell-over-election-claims-11613996104
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 22, 2021, 02:58:45 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on February 22, 2021, 03:58:38 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on February 22, 2021, 06:43:44 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 22, 2021, 07:00:39 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 22, 2021, 07:29:31 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on March 08, 2021, 09:14:31 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 08, 2021, 10:54:32 AM
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1368941080444612615?s=20
Shocking twist here. F'ing idiots
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2021, 11:28:46 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 15, 2021, 03:24:43 PM
They even changed the headline. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-call-georgia-investigator/2021/01/09/7a55c7fa-51cf-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html
#blueanon . . . the most easily propagandized political base (numbering in the millions) the world has ever known, or will know.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 15, 2021, 04:19:08 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 15, 2021, 04:42:23 PM
Interesting
Post by: mocat on March 29, 2021, 10:20:37 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/upshot/trump-biden-geography-quiz.html
Post by: Brock Landers on March 29, 2021, 11:01:09 AM
This is fun (also very easy)
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/upshot/trump-biden-geography-quiz.html
That was kind of fun, I got 14/18 - Sage of the Suburbs :nerd:
Post by: star seed 7 on March 29, 2021, 11:15:11 AM
Post by: MadCat on March 29, 2021, 12:30:56 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 29, 2021, 12:39:16 PM
This is fun (also very easy)
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/upshot/trump-biden-geography-quiz.html
10/18 the first time 15/18 the second time. This is going to be a big time waster for me.
Post by: cfbandyman on March 29, 2021, 01:47:52 PM
This is fun (also very easy)
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/upshot/trump-biden-geography-quiz.html
10/18 the first time 15/18 the second time. This is going to be a big time waster for me.
not sure why mine asked 19 instead of 18 but 12/19 first time, I don't think I ever clicked on trump quicker when a cornfield showed up
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2021, 01:50:13 PM
This is fun (also very easy)
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/upshot/trump-biden-geography-quiz.html
New York is hard! I got Staten Island and though I knew it was MAGA-y I didn't realize just HOW MAGA-y it was. I got Kansas quite a bit which is super pud. fun activity
Post by: cfbandyman on March 29, 2021, 01:57:00 PM
This is fun (also very easy)
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/upshot/trump-biden-geography-quiz.html
New York is hard! I got Staten Island and though I knew it was MAGA-y I didn't realize just HOW MAGA-y it was. I got Kansas quite a bit which is super pud. fun activity
Yeah NY is really hard, most of my misses came from NY, even one that was Brooklyn came up trump and was like, shocked at the answer.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 29, 2021, 02:11:17 PM
Post by: sys on March 29, 2021, 02:49:49 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2021, 02:56:40 PM
i got 14 of 16.It changes every time! You can do it all day!
I think Ohio was pretty unpredictable too, if anything for how Trumpy they were
Post by: sys on March 29, 2021, 03:02:07 PM
Post by: chum1 on March 29, 2021, 03:09:52 PM
Biden:
More urban
Suburb that looks like it has a Whole Foods not far away
75+ year-old larger, well maintained houses
Trump:
More rural
Seem like they can go either way:
Suburbs with 10-40 year-old houses
Neighborhoods with 60+ year-old not that well maintained houses
Post by: mocat on March 29, 2021, 03:14:06 PM
Post by: chum1 on March 29, 2021, 03:14:30 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on March 29, 2021, 03:20:08 PM
I'm not good. This is my emerging strategy.
Biden:
More urban
Suburb that looks like it has a Whole Foods not far away
75+ year-old larger, well maintained houses
Drumpf:
More rural
Seem like they can go either way:
Suburbs with 10-40 year-old houses
Neighborhoods with 60+ year-old not that well maintained houses
I would amend the 'burbs a bit to in general decently well maintained older houses regardless of size is Biden, where the whole foods comment I think hold pretty true for the bigger homes, I did for example nail a very affluent suburban as Biden, and also nailed a more rural looking suburb as trump, the key I think it looking at the # of trees and just how nice the houses are.
Post by: chum1 on March 29, 2021, 03:25:09 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 29, 2021, 03:33:37 PM
I'm not good. This is my emerging strategy.
Biden:
More urban
Suburb that looks like it has a Whole Foods not far away
75+ year-old larger, well maintained houses
Drumpf:
More rural
Seem like they can go either way:
Suburbs with 10-40 year-old houses
Neighborhoods with 60+ year-old not that well maintained houses
I would amend the 'burbs a bit to in general decently well maintained older houses regardless of size is Biden, where the whole foods comment I think hold pretty true for the bigger homes, I did for example nail a very affluent suburban as Biden, and also nailed a more rural looking suburb as trump, the key I think it looking at the # of trees and just how nice the houses are.
I basically looked for things like chain link fencing and run down homes to determine Trumpland. Also old trees vs new trees. Pennsylvania threw me off because they have some nice looking homes with old trees in their Trumpland.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 29, 2021, 03:42:21 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2021, 03:46:21 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 29, 2021, 04:43:35 PM
I got Junction City!
Did you recognize it? Trying to identify the actual places is much more fun for me. As far as the actual exercise goes the suburbs are hard for me and i'm awful with ones that are clearly in the Southwest. I want to answer Biden on all of them and all of them I'm wrong.
Post by: cfbandyman on March 29, 2021, 05:15:50 PM
I got Junction City!
Got KCK last time :gocho:
Post by: chum1 on March 29, 2021, 05:29:48 PM
I got Junction City!
Did you recognize it?
Not at all. I didn't recognize Wichita either and guessed Trump when it was Biden.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 29, 2021, 07:22:59 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on March 29, 2021, 08:43:22 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2021, 03:58:34 AM
The photo could be of a "Welcome to Wichita" sign and I would guess Trump.
Well for a lot of districts in Wichita, you'd be right, especially on the far east, west, and south sides of ICT where you'd see a Welcome to Wichita sign. Wichita's north side, not at all trump country, that's where my people are.
Post by: mocat on March 30, 2021, 07:39:46 AM
Post by: waks on April 04, 2021, 07:06:42 AM
Amount of pickup trucks on the street is a dead giveawayThis.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 24, 2021, 11:46:38 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/13/one-third-of-clinton-supporters-say-trump-election-is-not-legitimate-poll-finds/
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 10, 2021, 07:56:00 AM
Welp, this is probably going to change some "lets be like the Europeans" minds that at one time dominated the ProgLib movement.
Of 47 nations surveyed in Europe -- a place where, on other matters, American progressives often look to with envy -- all but one country requires a government-issued photo voter ID to vote. The exception is the U.K., and even there voter IDs are mandatory in Northern Ireland for all elections and in parts of England for local elections. Moreover, Boris Johnson’s government recently introduced legislation to have the rest of the country follow suit.
Seventy-four percent of European countries entirely ban absentee voting for citizens who reside domestically. Another 6% limit it to those hospitalized or in the military, and they require third-party verification and a photo voter ID. Another 15% require a photo ID for absentee voting.
Similarly, government-issued photo IDs are required to vote by 33 nations in the 37-member Organistion for Economic Co-operation and Development (which has considerable European overlap). Only the UK, Japan, New Zealand, and Australia currently do not require IDs. Of those outliers:
On the mainland, France banned mail-in voting in 1975 because of massive fraud in the island region of Corsica, where postal ballots were stolen or bought and others were cast in the names of dead people.
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/06/01/the_us_is_a_voter_photo_id_outlier_theyre_the_rule_in_europe_and_elsewhere_778714.html
Post by: steve dave on June 10, 2021, 08:16:08 AM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 10, 2021, 11:37:58 AM
The reason the ProgFacist goes straight to the racism card with follow-up using various forms of race based labels is because to get into the details would expose the idiocy and thus subject the ProgFascist to the ridicule they so richly deserve.
The "laser focus" comment is absolutely :lol:
The standard list of requirements is every case is a list of documentation needed for any able bodied/mind/guardian aided citizen to participate in nearly every facet of our society be it: Governmental, financial system, health system, educational system participation and engagement (and that's just naming a few). Without any of them, functioning in our modern society would be nearly impossible. A litany of Federal/State/Local agencies has a list of either unacceptable or secondary ID only items of which most if not all of your "laser focus" items reside. In other words, don't even bother trying to use that list of ID's as your primary in trying to engage with us because they're not going to get you anywhere by themselves. This is understood by anyone with even a modicum of intelligence and engagement in the basic mechanisms of a 1st world country.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 10, 2021, 12:40:23 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 10, 2021, 12:46:06 PM
Yeah I have never had any problem with needing id to vote, but it should be easily acquired and free of charge. I wonder why dax does not want those things..... Hmmmmm...............
Every state I've lived in offers a free state ID. The list of things you can use to get them is many bullet points long and even if you don't have any of those there's other processes that that one can go through to obtain a free ID.
Post by: MakeItRain on June 10, 2021, 09:20:55 PM
Yeah I have never had any problem with needing id to vote, but it should be easily acquired and free of charge. I wonder why dax does not want those things..... Hmmmmm...............
Every state I've lived in offers a free state ID. The list of things you can use to get them is many bullet points long and even if you don't have any of those there's other processes that that one can go through to obtain a free ID.
You live in a state that closed several DMVs in predominately poor black rural areas, this happened after they made IDs mandatory to vote.
https://www.governing.com/archive/alabama-demands-voter-id--then-closes-drivers-license-offices-in-clack-counties.html
https://www.al.com/opinion/2017/01/as_it_turns_out_bentleys_drive.html
Quote
Gov. Robert Bentley denied there was any racist intent behind the closure of 31 driver license offices in 2015, but an investigation by the United States Department of Transportation found they adversely impacted majority African-American counties.
All you had to do was look at a map to see it.
Post by: chum1 on June 17, 2021, 10:29:55 AM
https://twitter.com/AC360/status/1405329769433022466
Post by: steve dave on June 17, 2021, 10:35:33 AM
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Post by: Trim on June 17, 2021, 10:41:48 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 17, 2021, 12:25:47 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 17, 2021, 01:35:06 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 17, 2021, 02:44:28 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 17, 2021, 08:01:49 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 17, 2021, 09:39:26 PM
Like Trump, I have always been an Italian satellite hack guy. The evidence is so abundant, as Trump has said on the record.Link?
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 17, 2021, 09:49:37 PM
This is insane.Holy crap :lol:
https://twitter.com/AC360/status/1405329769433022466
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 18, 2021, 09:22:28 PM
Only we can force weeks and months of recounts, claim illegitimacy and immediately attempt impeachment proceedings (ProgFascist Nation)
Yes, there is absolutely nothing unusual or suspicious about the Arizona “audit” at all.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 20, 2021, 07:04:36 AM
#lolOnly we can force weeks and months of recounts, claim illegitimacy and immediately attempt impeachment proceedings (ProgFascist Nation)
Yes, there is absolutely nothing unusual or suspicious about the Arizona “audit” at all.
Welcome to 2021.
This isn’t a bunch of ProfLib lawyers in a room telling us a chad angle means Gore won
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 20, 2021, 11:48:48 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 21, 2021, 09:15:11 AM
Join us
Post by: MadCat on June 21, 2021, 09:41:08 AM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 22, 2021, 09:27:12 AM
Post by: MadCat on June 22, 2021, 10:57:02 AM
Post by: passranch on June 22, 2021, 02:54:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AKTBHuRv9U
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 22, 2021, 03:51:05 PM
We get it.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 22, 2021, 07:52:46 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 24, 2021, 10:58:58 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 24, 2021, 11:02:06 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 24, 2021, 08:06:02 PM
What do impeachment proceedings have to do with the absurd Arizona recount that is happening right now? Do you also admit that this recount is operating significantly differently than every other recount in history? Because it is.I’m sorry you struggle with patterns.
Again, welcome to 2021
Post by: sys on June 29, 2021, 09:16:51 PM
https://twitter.com/bobhardt/status/1410055272308121603
Post by: sys on February 26, 2022, 01:26:49 AM
I told you exactly what I objected to, I've told you twice, you made the decision to cut it out. You have the right to ignore my objection to your hypocritical claims, but don't tell me you didn't read it.
i promise you i am not being deliberately obtuse nor am i ignoring your commentary. as nearly as i can summarize your argument it is: "i don't believe reade's accusation of rape and i don't find her to be a credible person; however it is hypocritical and unfair that her allegations were investigated so rigorously that i was able to make that determination."
i do not understand that.re., the senate records, you're making excuses as to why there is no need for them to be publicly released. There are no excuses, he's already allowed hand picked members of the public to read those files, there should be nothing to hide.
again, i find your logic to be unfollowable. i don't know if your assertion that he allowed some people in his campaign to go through his papers to be true, but assuming it is - you appear to be suggesting that if biden considers it advisable to allow anyone to view his papers, he should be comfortable allowing everyone to do so.
that makes no sense. there is every reason to think that there are things in those papers that he wishes to hide. he chose to hide them years ago when he donated the papers, he reaffirmed that choice when he left the white house and he is doing so again now. he's trying to win the most important election of his life, if there is anything that might damage that chance in those papers, and again, it seems very likely he thinks there is, why in the world would he voluntarily choose to share it now?
knowledgeable people unconnected with his campaign have explained that his papers would not have personnel records. reade herself has stated that she did not file a complaint of sexual assault or rape. accordingly, there is no reason to think there is anything relevant to reade's allegations in those papers.
why, then, should he voluntarily release papers that presumably include information that he thinks might damage his electoral chances when the papers in question are not relevant to reade's accusation?
i'm not intending to single out mir, here. this is just the first post of mine that came up when i searched.
but i do want to remind everyone that thought that reade was a credible person when her accusations gathered national attention that she was not credible, and it was very obvious at the time.
https://twitter.com/BidenHarrisBro/status/1497242352817106951
Post by: MakeItRain on February 26, 2022, 01:33:52 AM
I still think he greatly mumped up by being so secretive about those senate files, still gives the appearance he was hiding something.
Post by: sys on February 26, 2022, 02:58:42 PM
Is that screen cap from today?
dunno, but she tweeted this review of putin's pre-invasion speech, so it seems representative of current opinion.
https://twitter.com/ReadeAlexandra/status/1495855382396387330
Post by: MakeItRain on February 26, 2022, 11:19:10 PM
Post by: chum1 on March 04, 2022, 10:00:01 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FM96FqhXoAUz4Xt?format=jpg&name=large)
Post by: sys on May 30, 2023, 05:11:55 PM
https://twitter.com/T_FisherKing/status/1663618958870691843