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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: tdaver on March 26, 2020, 12:11:34 AM
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Hey guys! Remember when KSU basketball was fun? I miss that. We should do it again. How about this Friday for a couple hours?
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1242952852642975744?s=21
https://twitter.com/dscottfritchen/status/1242783687156142080?s=21
https://twitter.com/frankmartin_sc/status/1242473248325017601?s=21
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I’ve seen stories and stuff about people worrying about nuclear bombs and World War III and that this was the best way to attack the world, through a virus, so it could’ve been anybody that made this virus.
Dax got to J-Pullz :frown:
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Wasn't Jake talking to GPC for an upcoming story?
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I am looking forward to this
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I’m excited for this game to be on. Maybe they will show the party in Aggieville that followed the game too!
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I’m going to drink some booze drinks and maybe reply to Frank and Brad on Twitter, what a time to be alive.
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Got I loved this team
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:ck: with that elbow jumper is NSFW
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Denis speeding by everyone for a runner :love: He’ll always be my favorite
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If you haven’t been watching this is when it starts to really start getting good
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Now I'm just sad bc holy crap we were good 10 yrs ago. Forgot what jyc looked like
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Inject that denis 4 point play into my veins
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I will say, fun to have re-watched it. I really only focused on the end of the 2nd half and the OTs. But still:
1. I don't think I can ever forgive that ref for not calling that foul on Denis instead of Merriweather. Literally the difference between that game going into OT and not. While it gave us that great game, I still think playing 1.25 games vs 1 meant we were too tired vs Butler to make it to the FF. And once we got there, I liked our chances vs MSU and eventually Duke. Would we have done it? Probably no, but I absolutely think 2 OTs killed us vs Butler and we'd have won that game have the goddamn ref called the right foul vs the right person, and it be 2 shots vs 3, and we walk off with a close win in regulation.
2. It really amazed me in retrospect how it really seemed like we were the team in control, but Xavier hit clutch shot after clutch shot to keep themselves in. Kinda obvious but in the moment it seemed more a titanic struggle, 10 years (holy crap) since, it seemed like we had it and we just couldn't stop the clutch until they couldn't anymore.
3. CK Kelly was amazing, Denis and Jpullz desire a lot of credit, but on both sides of the floor Curtis did the small and big things it took for us to win and doesn't deserve enough credit in that win.
4. I love and miss Jamar Samuels, clear difference maker in the right time.
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I had forgotten what it was like to have a true/legit point guard. Kind of amazing that it's been 10 years since we've had one.
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I forgot how fast Denis was. What a joy to watch
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I had forgotten what it was like to have a true/legit point guard. Kind of amazing that it's been 10 years since we've had one.
7 years.
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Man, forgot how sick the first hyper-elite blacks were.
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I will say, fun to have re-watched it. I really only focused on the end of the 2nd half and the OTs. But still:
1. I don't think I can ever forgive that ref for not calling that foul on Denis instead of Merriweather. Literally the difference between that game going into OT and not. While it gave us that great game, I still think playing 1.25 games vs 1 meant we were too tired vs Butler to make it to the FF. And once we got there, I liked our chances vs MSU and eventually Duke. Would we have done it? Probably no, but I absolutely think 2 OTs killed us vs Butler and we'd have won that game have the goddamn ref called the right foul vs the right person, and it be 2 shots vs 3, and we walk off with a close win in regulation.
2. It really amazed me in retrospect how it really seemed like we were the team in control, but Xavier hit clutch shot after clutch shot to keep themselves in. Kinda obvious but in the moment it seemed more a titanic struggle, 10 years (holy crap) since, it seemed like we had it and we just couldn't stop the clutch until they couldn't anymore.
3. CK Kelly was amazing, Denis and Jpullz desire a lot of credit, but on both sides of the floor Curtis did the small and big things it took for us to win and doesn't deserve enough credit in that win.
4. I love and miss Jamar Samuels, clear difference maker in the right time.
Same. Every team needs a Jamar.
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I had forgotten what it was like to have a true/legit point guard. Kind of amazing that it's been 10 years since we've had one.
7 years.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200328/d4a5f6efffe1f0ee109239981ac8274f.jpg)
Man, forgot how sick the first hyper-elite blacks were.
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OMG I feel terrible I had forgotten about Angel. :frown:
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I had forgotten what it was like to have a true/legit point guard. Kind of amazing that it's been 10 years since we've had one.
7 years.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200328/d4a5f6efffe1f0ee109239981ac8274f.jpg)
Man, forgot how sick the first hyper-elite blacks were.
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OMG I feel terrible I had forgotten about Angel. :frown:
Sock outed?
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The streak is broken next year. Nigel Pack is going to be fun to watch.
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I had forgotten what it was like to have a true/legit point guard. Kind of amazing that it's been 10 years since we've had one.
7 years.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200328/d4a5f6efffe1f0ee109239981ac8274f.jpg)
Man, forgot how sick the first hyper-elite blacks were.
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OMG I feel terrible I had forgotten about Angel. :frown:
Kam was a better point guard than Angel in literally every way imaginable.
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I had forgotten what it was like to have a true/legit point guard. Kind of amazing that it's been 10 years since we've had one.
7 years.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200328/d4a5f6efffe1f0ee109239981ac8274f.jpg)
Man, forgot how sick the first hyper-elite blacks were.
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OMG I feel terrible I had forgotten about Angel. :frown:
Kam was a better point guard than Angel in literally every way imaginable.
MiR, sorry, you're wrong about this one. angel's as good or better at every advanced stat with a higher usage rate
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/angel-rodriguez-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kamau-stokes-1.html
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and I will not be debating this any further
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It took me a minute to remember who the eff "Kam" was and he played very recently. Better than Angel wtf
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:lol:
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I had forgotten what it was like to have a true/legit point guard. Kind of amazing that it's been 10 years since we've had one.
7 years.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200328/d4a5f6efffe1f0ee109239981ac8274f.jpg)
Man, forgot how sick the first hyper-elite blacks were.
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OMG I feel terrible I had forgotten about Angel. :frown:
Kam was a better point guard than Angel in literally every way imaginable.
MiR, sorry, you're wrong about this one. angel's as good or better at every advanced stat with a higher usage rate
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/angel-rodriguez-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kamau-stokes-1.html
Yep, I saw that and determined that because Kam played with Barry as his other guard and Angel had Will rough ridin' Spradling and Manu Lecompte that Kam was better. I do think Angel is better equipped to have a high usage rate though, he's a poor man's Cartier Diarra. Kam was much more JYC than Angel could ever hope to be.
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Kam was honorable mention all-B12 once. Angel was 2nd team and 1st team all defense as a sophomore. Plus Angel was better than Kam in basically everu way.
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I had forgotten what it was like to have a true/legit point guard. Kind of amazing that it's been 10 years since we've had one.
7 years.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200328/d4a5f6efffe1f0ee109239981ac8274f.jpg)
Man, forgot how sick the first hyper-elite blacks were.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
OMG I feel terrible I had forgotten about Angel. :frown:
Kam was a better point guard than Angel in literally every way imaginable.
MiR, sorry, you're wrong about this one. angel's as good or better at every advanced stat with a higher usage rate
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/angel-rodriguez-1.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/angel-rodriguez-1.html)
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kamau-stokes-1.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kamau-stokes-1.html)
Yep, I saw that and determined that because Kam played with Barry as his other guard and Angel had Will rough ridin' Spradling and Manu Lecompte that Kam was better. I do think Angel is better equipped to have a high usage rate though, he's a poor man's Cartier Diarra. Kam was much more JYC than Angel could ever hope to be.
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I’m wracking my brain for the manu lecompte reference and it isn’t coming :frown:
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MiR were you trolling us? You sly dog.
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Angel might be the most overrated/hyped player oat at K-State.
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Angel might be the most overrated/hyped player oat at K-State.
Complete list of K-State players to make 2nd team Big XII or better by sophomore year:
1. Beasley (1st, Fr.)
2. Foster (2nd, Fr.)
3. Angel (2nd, So.)
Pullen made honorable mention, Walker and McGruder each made 3rd team.
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Those honorable mention players you just listed have logged way more minutes in the league than Angel. His failed attempt vs La Salle at the end of that comeback is what I’ll remember him for. He was a set shooter and couldn’t create his own shot. People love him because he was attached to Frank for awhile and was lil and saucy and the closest thing we could get to a Denis clone at that time. I don’t hate him, but his best year was due to Weber’s offense and then he left and thrived at Miami.
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I’m wracking my brain for the manu lecompte reference and it isn’t coming :frown:
He was Angel's 2 guard his junior year at Miami.
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Also, people forget this, but Kam’s projectory was set to be better than Brown’s before all of his injuries. He took over that North Carolina game. I really wonder where he would have ended up if the injuries didn’t occur.
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Angel might be the most overrated/hyped player oat at K-State.
Complete list of K-State players to make 2nd team Big XII or better by sophomore year:
1. Beasley (1st, Fr.)
2. Foster (2nd, Fr.)
3. Angel (2nd, So.)
Pullen made honorable mention, Walker and McGruder each made 3rd team.
Which should probably tell you that's a pretty poor metric of how to evaluate him compared to other recent K-State players.
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MiR were you trolling us? You sly dog.
I know that I don't have a statistical leg to stand on, but I do think that it should be accounted for that Angel had to do more. Angel never had to play with players like Brown and Wade, and I don't think he would have been a great fit. Also Kam was a much better defender, I'll never forget how badly Angel got cooked by Brady Heslip.
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Those honorable mention players you just listed have logged way more minutes in the league than Angel. His failed attempt vs La Salle at the end of that comeback is what I’ll remember him for. He was a set shooter and couldn’t create his own shot. People love him because he was attached to Frank for awhile and was lil and saucy and the closest thing we could get to a Denis clone at that time. I don’t hate him, but his best year was due to Weber’s offense and then he left and thrived at Miami.
If throwing lobs to JO is a set shot I agree with this.
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Those honorable mention players you just listed have logged way more minutes in the league than Angel. His failed attempt vs La Salle at the end of that comeback is what I’ll remember him for. He was a set shooter and couldn’t create his own shot. People love him because he was attached to Frank for awhile and was lil and saucy and the closest thing we could get to a Denis clone at that time. I don’t hate him, but his best year was due to Weber’s offense and then he left and thrived at Miami.
If throwing lobs to JO is a set shot I agree with this.
Throwing lobs to JO is the far and away the most elite thing he did, maybe the most elite thing anything in a K-State uniform has ever done.
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Agreed. Still not a top 50 cat tho.
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between that and junk yard assists for ORebs, he was so much fun.
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He was a starting PG and 2nd team all conference on a championship team, weird to not love him.
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I’m wracking my brain for the manu lecompte reference and it isn’t coming :frown:
He was Angel's 2 guard his junior year at Miami.
And he was no Sheldon McClellan or Davon Reed.
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I’m wracking my brain for the manu lecompte reference and it isn’t coming :frown:
He was Angel's 2 guard his junior year at Miami.
And he was no Sheldon McClellan or Davon Reed.
Davon Reed, lol. Did you just look at the roster on the bb ref page and see that Reed played in the NBA? McClellan was a baller, I'll give you that.
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I’m wracking my brain for the manu lecompte reference and it isn’t coming :frown:
He was Angel's 2 guard his junior year at Miami.
And he was no Sheldon McClellan or Davon Reed.
Davon Reed, lol. Did you just look at the roster on the bb ref page and see that Reed played in the NBA? McClellan was a baller, I'll give you that.
Def had to look at the page to know who Manu Lecompte was. Besides the NBA thing, it showed that McClellan and Reed were the two guards that played the most minutes along with Angel, and that Lecompte was smaller than Angel. McClellan and Reed were also the 2 and 3 with Angel at the 1 at the 2nd-to-last college basketball game I've ever been to!
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He was a starting PG and 2nd team all conference on a championship team, weird to not love him.
There are still never Weber’s on this board that never appreciated The Flush, wade, and our Only active NBA player in the program— Westicles. It’s honestly not that hard to grasp.
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Isn't McGruder still on the Clippers?
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Isn't McGruder still on the Clippers?
Yes, almost inactive. Great point.
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Isn't McGruder still on the Clippers?
Yes, almost inactive. Great point.
He played 21 minutes in their last game.
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will anyone pay attention in 7 years if they replay the tourney win over kentucky and oscar/lowry/korn live tweet it?
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will anyone pay attention in 7 years if they replay the tourney win over kentucky and oscar/lowry/korn live tweet it?
Probably whiney Kentucky fans
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will anyone pay attention in 7 years if they replay the tourney win over kentucky and oscar/lowry/korn live tweet it?
WTF? That game was rough ridin' amazing, watched it last week. And great observo that oscar isn't as charismatic as Frank, anymore brain busters?