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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: kashi1965 on February 25, 2020, 07:50:15 PM
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sorry but i don't see that much with any of the freshmen at the end of year 1. its pretty obvious now why dajuan gordon wasn't recruited much by P5 schools.
the entire group is tweeners in every way. typical KSU recruits.
not really good at any particular skill.
especially shooting
this next class better hit or Weber is going to be in trouble in a couple years
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He's not in trouble now?
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He's not in trouble now?
lol. No.
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Yes it is LOL he isn't in dire trouble.
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It's about as hard for the KSU basketball coach to get himself fired as it is for the ISU football coach.
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Guys. KSU hoops is hurting.
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if a tree is chopped down in the forest and no one is there to watch it or hear the coach tree complain about the refs, is the tree really hurting? something to think about spracne.
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I think the class looks like Big 12 caliber freshmen, although I was hoping for more. The team's non-depth has them playing more minutes than they should. I also think they're victims of no leadership and no intensity from the upperclassmen.
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I'm hearing that Gene has oscar on a very short leash. Sometimes, Gene is forced to step in and run practices himself. If things start to go south this season, I could see Gene assuming the head coach position in the postseason much like Barry Alvarez did at Wisconsin. oscar would then take over for Lowery, and so on.
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Is there any truth to the rumor that Diarra is locker room cancer, and he's doing a Marcus Foster on Oscar?
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LOL at OP
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I think the class looks like Big 12 caliber freshmen, although I was hoping for more. The team's non-depth has them playing more minutes than they should. I also think they're victims of no leadership and no intensity from the upperclassmen.
i don't see it. Dajuan is not fast or tall; not a great ball handler; not a great shooter; below average defender though only a freshman. the class was ranked near bottom of league. weber needs to blow up the entire roster and start over. if this next years group doesn't show something within 2 years then i'm ready to cut weber. he has shown time and time again he can't sustain anything.
i certainly enjoyed the elite 8 run but that team really wasn't that good. he has a overall losing record B12 since he got to KSU
he has shown zero ability to recruit program changing players which is what every program needs to be competitive
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I like Murphy.
Love Gordon's effort but don't see his shot ever developing. Mechanically, it sucks.
A. Gordon is not a big 12 player.
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I would literally blame every other class on this team before I would blame the freshmen.
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Is there any truth to the rumor that Diarra is locker room cancer, and he's doing a Marcus Foster on Oscar?
Oscar has already played that card. Sorry it's time to place the blame on the other side of the equation. Diarra was a key part of the Elite 8 and conference championship team. It isn't his fault Oscar didn't recruit a D-1 big man or shooter for three years after he signed, or seeming doesn't know about the senior transfer rule -- which Diarra will alert him to in a few months.
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I think the class looks like Big 12 caliber freshmen, although I was hoping for more. The team's non-depth has them playing more minutes than they should. I also think they're victims of no leadership and no intensity from the upperclassmen.
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I think we should start calling them "The Class."
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Guys. KSU hoops is hurting.
This is true. And the best part about it is that nobody GAF. And in most cases even knows!
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Guys. KSU hoops is hurting.
This is true. And the best part about it is that nobody GAF. And in most cases even knows!
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I was having a conversation just the other day about Big 12 hoops. Both of us are K-State superfans and neither of us knew K-State was in last place. We both just kind of said "huh." and talked about something else.
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i'd love to see the class get a little bit better every day, improving a win or two each year until they graduate with their heads held high and their place in kstate history secure.
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Guys. KSU hoops is hurting.
This is true. And the best part about it is that nobody GAF. And in most cases even knows!
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I was having a conversation just the other day about Big 12 hoops. Both of us are K-State superfans and neither of us knew K-State was in last place. We both just kind of said "huh." and talked about something else.
Then I think that confirms you both are not superfans. More like, "seasonal".
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so real talk, next years class competes for two big 12 titles with these guys. MARK MY WORDS
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the same guy that had the cats in the tourney this year :lol: greg
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All this team has to do is win 4 dang games and they are in.
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All this team has to do is win 4 dang games and they are in.
not even home games.
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All this team has to do is win 4 dang games and they are in.
We're just going to have to win the whole damn thing
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this next class better hit or Weber is going to be in trouble in a couple years
I am delighted that we will probably get the chance to see oscar get fired, instead of him merely retiring. He should go out of the building holding a cardboard box full of his moments and house plants, and not receiving a gold watch.
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Oh Pete...
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Honest question for the "Never Brucers"... Did you actually enjoy the conference titles and the elite 8 run or were you just like... "Great! This is only going to extend this eff head". Honest question. I saw many curmudgeon about it.
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Sure, they were fun for a few days and then completely forgotten
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Good to know. Also, was Frank just so much fun it ruined it for everybody? Would you take Frank now knowing he's a fraud and that his assistants did all the work for him?
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it was fun beating Kentucky. sucked we couldn't beat loyola. but let's be honest, oscar isn't getting there without the first 16 beating a 1.
with oscar you just know the program isn't building to anything. we'll get better probably in a couple years, but he's shown over his entire career that he can't sustain any type of success year after year.
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would like to hear more about frank being a fraud
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it was fun beating Kentucky. sucked we couldn't beat loyola. but let's be honest, oscar isn't getting there without the first 16 beating a 1.
with oscar you just know the program isn't building to anything. we'll get better probably in a couple years, but he's shown over his entire career that he can't sustain any type of success year after year.
Yup, the good years feel flukey and the down years feel baseline. And does anyone really have fun when a 4 seed and a first round loss are the high water mark?
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Maybe oscar should hire some assistants that can do all the work for him
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the thing i can't understand with the oscar apologists is the pointing to 2 instances of co-winning the conference championship as if that is supposed to mean something about the quality of the team. Its like they are incapable of wrapping their minds around the idea that maybe the years we won a share of the title, the group of 10 teams that comprise the conference were not as good as they were in years past.
When you look back at some of the qatz football teams of the mid 90s and early 00s, those teams were v good but there was an even better nub or CU team preventing them from winning the conference.
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Is there any truth to the rumor that Diarra is locker room cancer, and he's doing a Marcus Foster on Oscar?
No. Did you make that up?
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so real talk, next years class competes for two big 12 titles with these guys. MARK MY WORDS
As good as the 2020 class is, it's only 4th/5th in the conference.
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the thing i can't understand with the oscar apologists is the pointing to 2 instances of co-winning the conference championship as if that is supposed to mean something about the quality of the team. Its like they are incapable of wrapping their minds around the idea that maybe the years we won a share of the title, the group of 10 teams that comprise the conference were not as good as they were in years past.
When you look back at some of the qatz football teams of the mid 90s and early 00s, those teams were v good but there was an even better nub or CU team preventing them from winning the conference.
It's a whole body of work and it's the first time it's been done since '77. He literally ended KU's streak. It's not hard to wrap your brain around it.
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it was fun beating Kentucky. sucked we couldn't beat loyola. but let's be honest, oscar isn't getting there without the first 16 beating a 1.
This is such a dumb talking point, regardless of who the 16, 8/9, and 1 seeds are, or 15, 7/10, and 2. The 1 can lose to the 16 but not the 8? An eight beating a 1 is essentially a 4th place conference team beating a 1st place conference team on a neutral floor, in our particular case this is even more silly considering the style that Virginia team played and our comfort playing that same way. It would have been a highly defensive, snails paced game.
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maybe we would have beaten Virginia, but given oscar's tournament track record i doubt it