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Title: Deadspin
Post by: chum1 on October 31, 2019, 07:41:10 AM
Everyone is resigning in protest because the new owner is telling them to "stick to sports," censoring their content, and fired a couple editors for not complying.

https://twitter.com/drewmagary/status/1189871138895257604
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: michigancat on October 31, 2019, 08:04:01 AM
I mean I liked it sometimes but goddam people (other journalists, mainly) are acting like these writers are heroes.

Also I barely knew deadspin for sports in recent years so lol
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 'taterblast on October 31, 2019, 08:14:05 AM
Magary resigned this morning which is v big.

i read it every day. they annoy me sometimes with their weird "hate everything" mindset but it was a website i kept coming back to because it was different and provided different viewpoints on a lot of subjects i'm not sure i would have gotten otherwise.

their writers are certainly not heroes.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: chum1 on October 31, 2019, 08:15:43 AM
There's also a larger context. Rich people are buying up all the sites and killing the quality content in exchange for clickbait and a quick buck. It's been happening over and over. The Deadspin people are the first to stand up to them and try to screw them over.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: chum1 on October 31, 2019, 08:19:46 AM
Which is something I appreciate from them specifically because one thing Deadspin was about was speaking truth to power.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 31, 2019, 08:54:28 AM
Are these the guys who cry about Barstool, because they do it better than them?
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 31, 2019, 09:03:47 AM
The had a "Patriots Eat crap in Front of God and Everyone" headline when the Chiefs beat them in 2017 that I really appreciated.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 31, 2019, 09:04:41 AM
 :lol:

https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1189231883927916544?s=20
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 'taterblast on October 31, 2019, 09:06:47 AM
Are these the guys who cry about Barstool, because they do it better than them?

depends on what you mean by "it"
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 8manpick on October 31, 2019, 09:09:00 AM
There's also a larger context. Rich people are buying up all the sites and killing the quality content in exchange for clickbait and a quick buck. It's been happening over and over. The Deadspin people are the first to stand up to them and try to screw them over.

SI is the saddest example, IMO
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: ben ji on October 31, 2019, 09:58:18 AM
I used to read deadspin every day a couple of years ago but have drifted away from it.

I do still enjoy Drew Margary's writing so I'll probably check out wherever he ends up at.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: ChiComCat on October 31, 2019, 10:45:00 AM
Magary leaving is the deathblow there.  He was the only real name they had, but I enjoyed the other stuff more.  Deadspin had the freedom, although probably not the resources, to do good investigative pieces that ESPN wouldn't touch due to their contracts with the major leagues.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2019, 10:54:10 AM
i prefer buzzfeed for my sports content
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2019, 12:20:46 PM
I like Roth a lot


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Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2019, 12:26:21 PM
Like, he seems like just a great guy on top of writing really well


https://twitter.com/a_w_gordon/status/1189946633741619200


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Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: Cire on October 31, 2019, 12:34:22 PM
I follow and read the occasional deadspin story but I couldn't tell you who anyone was.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: MakeItRain on October 31, 2019, 02:07:15 PM
I follow and read the occasional deadspin story but I couldn't tell you who anyone was.

Magary has essentially been there from the start.

Good for them for standing up to their principles. I'll miss deadspin, it will be interesting what will happen to their other sites like Jezebel, The Root, and The Onion. There were other, I'd presume, freelancers, shaming other journalists who were in similar positions with their employers but don't have the stomach to quit, calling them enablers. A very millennial without kids mouths to feed viewpoint.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 31, 2019, 05:55:19 PM
:lol:

https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1189231883927916544?s=20

Thanks for reaffirming why I have everything barstool muted.  Good god what an insecure trash human being.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: bubbles4ksu on October 31, 2019, 07:50:41 PM
https://jezebel.com/i-would-have-sex-with-an-entire-major-league-baseball-t-1839501599 (https://jezebel.com/i-would-have-sex-with-an-entire-major-league-baseball-t-1839501599)

high quality website. we'll really miss it.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: _33 on October 31, 2019, 09:31:57 PM
I like when journalists get super dramatic in their defense of other journalists. I mean I saw people use the words brave, courageous and noble non sarcastically. Pretty great.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: Trim on October 31, 2019, 09:51:48 PM
I like when journalists get super dramatic in their defense of other journalists. I mean I saw people use the words brave, courageous and noble non sarcastically. Pretty great.

:lol:
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: MakeItRain on October 31, 2019, 10:56:33 PM
:lol:

https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1189231883927916544?s=20

Thanks for reaffirming why I have everything barstool muted.  Good god what an insecure trash human being.

He really is a sack of crap. I'll give him credit for getting rich off of incels and internet trolls though.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: Pete on November 01, 2019, 07:33:11 AM
In that blog ecosystem I do visit Jalopnik and Gizmodo a fair bit.  I'm a sucker for stories about cars and gadgets.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: Cire on November 01, 2019, 07:40:11 AM
I like when journalists get super dramatic in their defense of other journalists. I mean I saw people use the words brave, courageous and noble non sarcastically. Pretty great.

Oh man, remember when Frank Lit into kellis for his question to Pullen after the Wisconsin loss?
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: chum1 on November 01, 2019, 07:43:39 AM
Something I hate about this is that it's a big fat reminder that the good, old just for fun days of the internet are pretty much completely over. These days, if there is ever something good, it will be ruined by someone looking to profit financially.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: star seed 7 on November 01, 2019, 07:48:20 AM
I like when journalists get super dramatic in their defense of other journalists. I mean I saw people use the words brave, courageous and noble non sarcastically. Pretty great.

This is particularly great when sports journalists are involved
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2019, 07:56:46 AM
Yes, sports journos hold their role as weirdly sacrosanct


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Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2019, 08:42:28 AM
https://jezebel.com/i-would-have-sex-with-an-entire-major-league-baseball-t-1839501599 (https://jezebel.com/i-would-have-sex-with-an-entire-major-league-baseball-t-1839501599)

high quality website. we'll really miss it.
JFC
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: pissclams on November 01, 2019, 08:58:09 AM
In that blog ecosystem I do visit Jalopnik and Gizmodo a fair bit.  I'm a sucker for stories about cars and gadgets.

me too + kotaku
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2019, 09:22:43 AM
:lol:

https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1189231883927916544?s=20

Thanks for reaffirming why I have everything barstool muted.  Good god what an insecure trash human being.
That seems a bit dramatic, but you do you.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: ChiComCat on November 01, 2019, 09:40:59 AM
muting someone on twitter is the least dramatic thing I have ever heard of
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2019, 09:53:35 AM
Going out of your way to mute all barstool accounts, because they don't pump out "eff trump" 24/7/365 does. But ok chi.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 01, 2019, 09:57:44 AM
How did Trump even come up here?
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2019, 10:03:59 AM
There's a given difference between the two. You can close your eyes to it, but deadspin is the whiny hipster, too cool for school, left of the bunch, while people bitch about barstool for being conservative. Knowing hamburglar's history in the pit, I just went ahead and cracked the code for everyone. This thread got brought up because people are getting fired for sharing their political views. That's how we got here.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 01, 2019, 10:07:53 AM
I guess I just didn't realize that misogyny was strictly a conservative thing. Do they actually talk politics on Barstool Sports?
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2019, 10:09:46 AM
 :lol: Oh Jesus.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 01, 2019, 10:11:42 AM
I think you are just assuming they are conservative because they are assholes. Liberals can be assholes, too, 420seriouscat69.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: star seed 7 on November 01, 2019, 10:13:09 AM
I think you are just assuming they are conservative because they are assholes. Liberals can be assholes, too, 420seriouscat69.

Yeah, look at okcat :Keke:
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 'taterblast on November 01, 2019, 10:13:33 AM
https://jezebel.com/i-would-have-sex-with-an-entire-major-league-baseball-t-1839501599 (https://jezebel.com/i-would-have-sex-with-an-entire-major-league-baseball-t-1839501599)

high quality website. we'll really miss it.
JFC

that is a not-serious article which is actually a comment on the situation they find themselves in, but i think you guys know that.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: hemmy on November 01, 2019, 10:15:12 AM
I like when journalists get super dramatic in their defense of other journalists. I mean I saw people use the words brave, courageous and noble non sarcastically. Pretty great.

They are a protected class in society, we must not criticize them.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: star seed 7 on November 01, 2019, 10:15:28 AM
I enjoyed the "would u do: Seth Rogan" discussion. Made me feel better about myself.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2019, 10:16:40 AM
I think you are just assuming they are conservative because they are assholes. Liberals can be assholes, too, 420seriouscat69.

Yeah, look at okcat :Keke:
:D

https://www.boston.com/sports/media/2019/02/26/megan-greenwell-deadspin-barstool

One google search and it's almost like I wrote the article myself.

https://www.boston.com/sports/media/2019/02/26/megan-greenwell-deadspin-barstool

Deadspin kneeled when everything became politically correct, barstool didn't. That's it.

Quote
As the #MeToo stories swept journalism, some of the content that made Deadspin popular went from a source of inspiration to a source of embarrassment. The site “has a disgusting past that can never be atoned for,” wrote Diana Moskovitz, a current Deadspin staffer who has reported extensively on domestic violence.

And with it have come the mea culpas from Deadspin writers.

Magary: “I did gay jokes. I did rape jokes . . . I don’t want to make those jokes anymore.”

Longtime deputy editor Barry Petchesky: “There was a fat joke. There was an anorexia joke. . . . Men (cis, straight, white, neurotypical) have it so . . . easy.”

At the same time, Barstool Sports has, if anything, moved in the opposite direction. Founded in the Boston area a few years before Deadspin, Barstool always has trafficked in an aggressive fratiness with none of Deadspin’s hipster smugness. And as Barstool has continued to insist that sports should remain free of all political correctness — one of its slogans is “Saturday is for the Boys” — the company has grown markedly, netting a $25 million investment from media holding company The Chernin Group; it now produces some of the most popular sports podcasts in the industry, and huge stars such as Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield appear as guests.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 01, 2019, 10:21:46 AM
So deciding not to make fun of gay people and rape victims is a liberal thing?
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2019, 10:22:59 AM
So deciding not to make fun of gay people and rape victims is a liberal thing?
Rage, stop playing so dumb. Jesus.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2019, 11:02:34 AM
https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1190075870045597697?s=21
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: ChiComCat on November 01, 2019, 11:24:58 AM
Barstool's sense of humor is mostly being internet trolls, thus Portnoy's tweets.  They don't provide anything funny, insightful, or new to me.  They also steal content, dox people, and think it's funny/entertaining to treat women like crap.  It's not political to me so much as it's both sad and terribly uninteresting. 

Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2019, 11:31:13 AM
I find a lot of their twitter content humorous. Big cat is a great follow and a great guy. I don't know when this troll board started being offended by other trolls, but it's definitely a thing now. Dave is a POS, but he's still funny. He's the Trim of barstool.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2019, 11:32:12 AM
And Dave dunking on deadspin after they've been talking crap on them for years is a fine move to me. He feels he won and i'm OK with that.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: ChiComCat on November 01, 2019, 11:44:21 AM
I think there are power dynamics at play with trolling.  When gE trolled whole fanbases, I think it's funny.  When gE trolled individuals, I would now view it as mean although I'm sure I thought it was funny at the time.  Barstool being a multimillion-dollar company that attacks individuals is upsetting to me (although Portnoy himself taking shots at the old editor doesn't really bother me).  No doubt you've felt ganged up on by gE members at times and that was shitty.  I think barstool does that to people to the 1,000th degree.

I'm sure they do have some interesting personalities in there, I just don't care to sift through the trash to find them.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2019, 11:46:27 AM
I agree with all of that.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: chum1 on November 01, 2019, 11:56:53 AM
https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1190075870045597697?s=21

https://twitter.com/Samer/status/1161269633204273153
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: hemmy on November 01, 2019, 12:28:59 PM
I don't follow barstool, but I do watch the pizza reviews on youtube.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: pissclams on November 01, 2019, 12:53:35 PM
some very spirited takes on both sides of the proverbial stool, go cats!
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2019, 01:55:14 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: TheHamburglar on November 01, 2019, 02:27:36 PM
Going out of your way to mute all barstool accounts, because they don't pump out "eff trump" 24/7/365 does. But ok chi.

That has nothing to do with why I muted Barstool. I’m not team Deadspin either. Are they team “eff Trump?”  I’m guessing the last time I read Deadspin was when they broke Teo getting catfished.

I’ve basically ignored Barstool for awhile due to the muting.  I did have a barstool video slip through, but it was two girls talking about how one dated a quiet guy she didn’t want to eff, but when she found out he was a eff guy, then she wanted to eff him. Seemed very on brand for barstool.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2019, 03:12:24 AM
:lol:

https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1189231883927916544?s=20

Did this crap stain have anything to say about today's news that Chernin Group is looking to sell Barstool? The news came literally 24 hours after the world's oldest internet troll pulled this crap. You can't make this stuff up.
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 02, 2019, 03:28:24 PM
https://twitter.com/barstoolbigcat/status/1190718788007866368?s=21
Title: Re: Deadspin
Post by: bucket on November 02, 2019, 03:49:24 PM
I would hang that sign on my wall.