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Title: The Onside Kick
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 26, 2019, 09:13:15 PM
https://thespun.com/big-12/oklahoma-sooners/big-12-refs-statement-oklahoma-onside-kick

DID OU GET SCREWED??? (dgaf lol)

Makes sense why Lincoln Riley was jawing at the refs after that. At first I just thought he was mad because the Big XII refs were making decisions based on dollar signs.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: fatdamon on October 26, 2019, 09:23:40 PM
dont care suck it OU lol
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: sys on October 26, 2019, 09:24:42 PM
the calls go where they're appreciated.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 26, 2019, 09:44:24 PM
wgaf lol @ stinkin riley
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: catastrophe on October 26, 2019, 09:53:44 PM
Is it always satisfying getting all the calls just because we’re America’s team? Of course it is.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: BostonPancake on October 26, 2019, 10:02:45 PM
No they didn’t get screwed. An OU player pushed our player into another OU player.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: zackole1 on October 26, 2019, 11:22:08 PM
Looked like the OU player who hit the ball engaged our player then the ball hit the OU player.... so he was not blocked into the ball.  The OU player was a pussy and bounced off our player then was hit by the ball.   :Crybaby:OU
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: bshea85 on October 26, 2019, 11:27:46 PM
The Sooners have always been a bunch of cheaters and meanies.  Karma caught up with them today.  The universe is now balanced.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: BostonPancake on October 27, 2019, 12:05:51 AM
OU fans bitching about this should just STFU.  Bitch about Lincoln calling a trick play with 50 seconds to go in the first half and throwing an INT.  Bitch about sermon only getting 3 carries.  Bitch about fumbling a kickoff in the third quarter.  Bitch about playing like ass in the second and third quarter. 

That call did not cost them the game.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 27, 2019, 02:27:03 PM
Holy craaaaaaap, everyone read this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspin.com/oklahomas-playoff-chances-might-have-just-died-because-1839382596/amp
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: fatdamon on October 27, 2019, 02:32:51 PM
Should change football board name to “K-State football: an all-white rendition of Mo Bamba”
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: nicname on October 27, 2019, 03:23:27 PM
I love it. If modern technology hadn’t allowed the correct call to be made the incorrect call would have been made and OU would still be in a CFP driver’s seat. Excellent premise.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: star seed 7 on October 27, 2019, 03:39:06 PM
lol I didn't know that's the name of that song. great pick by the best college gameday in America or whatever the title is staff
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: michigancat on October 27, 2019, 03:39:41 PM
Replay does in fact suck but it was used as intended so oh well
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: PurpleOil on October 27, 2019, 03:56:59 PM
Could someone please explain to me why that Mo Bamba song is a thing?

That's not even good rap.


Also, eff OU. Their line held throughout the game and it was never called. This was the right call and it didn't cost them the game. Them not scoring more points than us in the 2nd and 3rd quarter cost them the game.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: Spracne on October 27, 2019, 04:11:18 PM
I'm enjoying the whining coming from OU fans. No one is really arguing that the refs got the call wrong. Rather, it seems like they feel entitled to a screw job at the end of a close game.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: wetwillie on October 27, 2019, 04:18:48 PM
Generally speaking the league should protect its best team in situations like these but I’m glad we are the beneficiary of it being called right.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: nicname on October 27, 2019, 04:38:32 PM
I'm enjoying the whining coming from OU fans. No one is really arguing that the refs got the call wrong. Rather, it seems like they feel entitled to a screw job at the end of a close game.

Makes is highly entertaining imo.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: catbacker 73 on October 28, 2019, 02:41:50 AM
Quote
wetwillie
Generally speaking the league should protect its best team in situations like these

1. That may be one of the dumbest statements I've ever read about football.

2. Look up 1998 - Kansas State Rule  then talk to me about protecting the good/best teams.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: chum1 on October 28, 2019, 07:03:36 AM
I don't like discussing replay of one play in the much larger context of making the playoffs. If Oklahoma wants in the playoffs, they really shouldn't get pushed around for almost an entire game by K-State.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: deputy dawg on October 28, 2019, 08:26:04 AM
Could someone please explain to me why that Mo Bamba song is a thing?

That's not even good rap.


Also, eff OU. Their line held throughout the game and it was never called. This was the right call and it didn't cost them the game. Them not scoring more points than us in the 2nd and 3rd quarter cost them the game.

Yeah, I was noticing that.  It happened a lot, and once OU found out that they weren't going to get called on it, it got worse.  The defensive stats are amazing based on that handicap alone.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 28, 2019, 08:46:39 AM
My favorite thing about all of this is the people bitching about the OU player getting "blocked into" the football.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: catastrophe on October 28, 2019, 09:05:19 AM
A very savvy move by our special teams unit IYAM
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: cat.branchman on October 28, 2019, 09:28:13 AM
Could someone please explain to me why that Mo Bamba song is a thing?

That's not even good rap.


Also, eff OU. Their line held throughout the game and it was never called. This was the right call and it didn't cost them the game. Them not scoring more points than us in the 2nd and 3rd quarter cost them the game.

Yeah, I was noticing that.  It happened a lot, and once OU found out that they weren't going to get called on it, it got worse.  The defensive stats are amazing based on that handicap alone.

Not to mention the block in the back that may ended Eric Gallons career.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: mocat on October 28, 2019, 04:42:17 PM
i wasn't able to watch the game and just watched the replay. lol i can't believe that went our way
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: nicname on October 28, 2019, 04:54:29 PM
Once I saw the ball ricochet off that dude's leg and him standing there knowing full well that the ball hit him before the 10-yard mark, there was no way I thought it wasn't KSU football.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: stunted on October 28, 2019, 05:23:48 PM
It did not look like our guy blocked him into the ball, more like they both ran into each other and the ball accidentally hit the OU player. Calling it a block is questionable, saying he was blocked into it is even more questionable.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 29, 2019, 09:06:20 AM
I don't think it would have gone our way if the second OU player had not run into his own guy.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 29, 2019, 09:08:25 AM
They weren't going to call us for forced touching on the onside kick regardless because no football referee has ever made that call.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: Woogy on October 29, 2019, 10:46:13 AM
Not up to date on free kick rules, but would the proper response for the receiving team be to bat it out of bounds?  Or is that a penalty?
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: chum1 on October 29, 2019, 10:52:36 AM
Not up to date on free kick rules, but would the proper response for the receiving team be to bat it out of bounds?  Or is that a penalty?

I think it's a penalty, but I don't think it would give OU possession. So, it would totally be worth doing. I really don't know the rules either, though.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: catastrophe on October 29, 2019, 11:04:12 AM
I don’t think you get credit for like batting the ball forward, but at least in the pros I thought batting was only a penalty in the end zone.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 29, 2019, 11:13:55 AM
i don't think they have a clear rule on batting an onside kick out of bounds. i've seen plenty of times where the players were trying to recover the ball and ultimately it squirted out of bounds resulting in the receiving team getting the ball where it went out, but they don't really seem to have an explicit rule about the receiving team intentionally batting a loose ball out of bounds.  Guessing the safe bet in that scenario would be to make it look like you were trying to recover it rather than obviously trying to swat it into the 5th row.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 29, 2019, 11:15:39 AM
Batting the ball out of bounds usually isn't any easier than just catching the ball. I mean it would be way too easy to ricochet the ball off of another player and lose possession. The kicking team almost never recovers these things, so it's better to not make it too complicated.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: chum1 on October 29, 2019, 11:30:09 AM
Batting the ball out of bounds usually isn't any easier than just catching the ball.

I think it depends on the situation. For example, suppose the ball isn't really moving, just kinda sitting there, right by the sideline, and it's a footrace to get to it. So much easier to simply tip it out of bounds than fight to actually grab it.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: MakeItRain on October 30, 2019, 03:16:49 AM
Intentionally batting the ball out of bounds is illegal touching. We would have received the ball and the penalty would be enforced from the spot where the ball went out of bounds, 10 yards.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: ChiComCat on October 30, 2019, 11:43:38 AM
It's usually a clusterfuck enough that refs would only call the most egregious penalty for batting it out of bounds.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: Cire on October 30, 2019, 01:09:40 PM
It did not look like our guy blocked him into the ball, more like they both ran into each other and the ball accidentally hit the OU player. Calling it a block is questionable, saying he was blocked into it is even more questionable.

Yeah, the blocking rule is to keep punt team from pushing a punt return guy into a rolling ball.

Not two guys running into each other on an onside kick and the ball deflecting off one of them.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2019, 01:25:57 PM
I wish onside kicks were easier to execute. would be cool if there was something like Aussie football where it's just a free for all and if you catch a punt it's yours
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: pissclams on October 30, 2019, 02:23:26 PM
a new idea called the MEGAKICK:  a team calls for a MEGAKICK.  refs use a flair to signal an attack helicopter from fort riley.  the ref uses a flair which is the color of the team requesting the MEGAKICK.  the refs all get into helicopter and drop the ball from the helicopter which is hovering 100 yards above midfield and make the two teams battle for it. the refs must try to throw/drop the ball at the team requesting the MEGAKICK.  the refs stay in the apache helicopter for the rest of the possession.  there are no rules and no refs for the remainder of the possession regardless of who gets possession of the ball. if the team who got the MEGAKICK called against them gets possession, the refs must call 3 bad calls against the team who called the MEGAKICK in the next series of plays.

rule:  each team only gets to elect for a MEGAKICK once per game
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: star seed 7 on October 30, 2019, 02:29:48 PM
How do you establish possession of the MEGAKICK? Last man standing sort of situation?
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: chum1 on October 30, 2019, 02:33:01 PM
Can you bat a MEGAKICK out of bounds?
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: pissclams on October 30, 2019, 02:33:47 PM
possession is deemed when a player is able to high five 6 teammates while holding the ball.  the 6 high fives represent the 6 points earned from a touchdown. which only happens when, you guessed it- a team possesses the ball.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 30, 2019, 02:33:58 PM
Can you bat a MEGAKICK out of bounds?

There are no rules or refs. That means there is no out of bounds.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: star seed 7 on October 30, 2019, 02:36:42 PM
Is the judgement call of a high five/low five reviewable?
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: meow meow on October 30, 2019, 02:39:18 PM
if we're playing in morgantown, won't that take awhile for the apache 'copter to get there from Ft Riley?  or is it waiting in the parking lot, with the pilots getting 'faced on 'shine?
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: star seed 7 on October 30, 2019, 02:43:35 PM
Potential problem: idiot b12 refs throw the ball UP instead of down and cause the 'pache blades to break and the 'pache crash lands on our beautiful and perfect cat football team.

Potential positive: idiot b12 refs throw the ball UP instead of down and cause the 'pache blades to break and the 'pache crash lands on the very stupid and total human scum opposing team
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 30, 2019, 02:48:34 PM
What if the Apache drops 6 balls, and to get a possession, all 6 of balls mussed be held by the high-fiving teammates?
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: Katpappy on October 30, 2019, 03:29:01 PM
Potential problem: idiot b12 refs throw the ball UP instead of down and cause the 'pache blades to break and the 'pache crash lands on our beautiful and perfect cat football team.

Potential positive: idiot b12 refs throw the ball UP instead of down and cause the 'pache blades to break and the 'pache crash lands on the very stupid and total human scum opposing team

Or what if the ball breaks into pieces and it floats down on the field and as a result there are several magakick returners.  who scores???  :dunno:
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: eastcat on October 30, 2019, 04:37:18 PM
What if the pilots get smashed on booze in the lots and can't fly?
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 30, 2019, 04:40:15 PM
What if the pilots get smashed on booze in the lots and can't fly?

Then they go ahead and fly anyway.
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 30, 2019, 04:44:05 PM
The thing you guys have to remember is there are NO RULES for megakick
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2019, 04:55:51 PM
how does a post-MEGAKICK possession end?
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: Woogy on October 30, 2019, 06:33:14 PM
So we're making Calvinball an NCAA sport?   :drool:
Title: Re: The Onside Kick
Post by: PurpleOil on October 31, 2019, 10:12:36 AM
What if the pilots get smashed on booze in the lots and can't fly?

Then they go ahead and fly anyway.

Exactly. It's what I already do.