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Title: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 05, 2019, 08:50:50 PM
I couldn’t find a thread for something like this.  eff these people.

https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1136244303192346626
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 8manpick on June 05, 2019, 09:06:02 PM
DNR anything but the tweet, but how would there be thousands of insurance claims about an arthritis drug reducing Alzheimer's by a certain percentage? What is the process here?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Spracne on June 05, 2019, 10:33:42 PM
BIG DATA
Title: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: catastrophe on June 05, 2019, 10:42:28 PM
Also DNR anything but that tweet, but that seems like more of a problem with FDA policy leading to perverse incentives.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: treysolid on June 05, 2019, 11:09:58 PM
Pfizer not moving on this doesn't mean they're shitty, they just made a bad bet because they purged development of therapeutics for Alzheimer's and Parkinson's around 18 months ago. If Pfizer was smart, they'd license it out to another pharma because FDA-approved drugs that get repurposed are typically fast-tracked because the DMPK, ADME and tox work is already done. If not, another pharma will likely make a crap-ton of analogs and get around the Pfizer patent pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: steve dave on June 06, 2019, 12:28:22 AM
I’m team Pfizer on this deal tbh


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: chum1 on June 06, 2019, 08:21:14 AM
https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1136585123900604416
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: catastrophe on June 06, 2019, 08:43:37 AM
Now THAT is some POS behavior!
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: IPA4Me on June 06, 2019, 08:45:28 AM
Capitalists with no soul

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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 02:51:46 AM
This pharma thread is sad, we are dragging big pharma all over the board, but the master thread is hurting. Let's see if Katie Porter can give us some life.

https://twitter.com/Public_Citizen/status/1311380433939189760
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2020, 06:30:31 AM
She's great. New Elizabeth Warren.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 06:48:41 AM
she's trash.  new elizabeth warren.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 11:52:02 AM
What do you have an issue with, or are you just trolling again?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 03:38:26 PM
she's a pandering populist grandstanding piece of crap.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 03:43:15 PM
btw, i've told you this before, but it is very tiresome that you continually suggest that i'm trolling when i post something you disagree with.  i sometimes write something as a joke, irony, sarcasm, what have you.  i think it's usually pretty obvious.  i do not troll.  i have almost no interest in soliciting responses to my posts.

you should really just accept that we have different opinions on some subjects.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 06:53:56 PM
btw, i've told you this before, but it is very tiresome that you continually suggest that i'm trolling when i post something you disagree with.  i sometimes write something as a joke, irony, sarcasm, what have you.  i think it's usually pretty obvious.  i do not troll.  i have almost no interest in soliciting responses to my posts.

you should really just accept that we have different opinions on some subjects.

I don't think you're trolling because you disagree with me, I think you're trolling because I'm attempting to give you credit for not sounding like a rough ridin' lunatic. You called that woman trash and a piece of crap not because she did anything harmful or offensive to another human being but because she has a different viewpoint on how to grow the economy of the country. You started this rant because she had the audacity to tell a pharma executive that his bonuses shouldn't be directly tied to increasing the cost of cancer medication.

I'm assuming you're trolling because presumably people here, that I know, also know you personally and don't think you're a despicable, intolerant sack of crap who would call a stranger trash and a piece of crap based on such flimsy reasoning. Just like I assumed you aren't a rough ridin' abhorrent human being who spent three years being serious calling people nazis because of they like a college basketball team.

If you want me and I suppose everyone else to take you seriously when you're behaving like a rough ridin' psychopath, I certainly will. I'd like to think the people I know who know you, and the same people who presumably also aren't taking you seriously when sound like an unhinged lunatic are a better judge of character than to think you are serious when you do this stupid crap.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Institutional Control on October 01, 2020, 06:57:46 PM
I like Katie Porter and I don’t care who knows it.


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2020, 09:36:16 PM
btw, i've told you this before, but it is very tiresome that you continually suggest that i'm trolling when i post something you disagree with.  i sometimes write something as a joke, irony, sarcasm, what have you.  i think it's usually pretty obvious.  i do not troll.  i have almost no interest in soliciting responses to my posts.

you should really just accept that we have different opinions on some subjects.

I don't think you're trolling because you disagree with me, I think you're trolling because I'm attempting to give you credit for not sounding like a rough ridin' lunatic. You called that woman trash and a piece of crap not because she did anything harmful or offensive to another human being but because she has a different viewpoint on how to grow the economy of the country. You started this rant because she had the audacity to tell a pharma executive that his bonuses shouldn't be directly tied to increasing the cost of cancer medication.

I'm assuming you're trolling because presumably people here, that I know, also know you personally and don't think you're a despicable, intolerant sack of crap who would call a stranger trash and a piece of crap based on such flimsy reasoning. Just like I assumed you aren't a rough ridin' abhorrent human being who spent three years being serious calling people nazis because of they like a college basketball team.

If you want me and I suppose everyone else to take you seriously when you're behaving like a rough ridin' psychopath, I certainly will. I'd like to think the people I know who know you, and the same people who presumably also aren't taking you seriously when sound like an unhinged lunatic are a better judge of character than to think you are serious when you do this stupid crap.

sys is basically a never-trump republican who used to hate cops that posts with the zeal of the dirtbag left
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2020, 09:42:00 PM
He hates boarder control too. Which to me seems complex, but he feels that everyone should be let in, with no questions asked. No negative consequences at all...


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 01, 2020, 09:44:48 PM
He hates boarder control too.
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He’s actually pretty pro-animal care.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2020, 09:46:04 PM
Got me!


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 09:54:11 PM
my political views are pretty run of the mill pro-business liberal with a few idiosyncrasies.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2020, 09:59:22 PM
What is pro business by allowing a bunch of undocumented immigrants in to run wild and take citizens jobs away?


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 10:02:14 PM
i think we should document them.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2020, 10:12:59 PM
We have enough struggling citizens as is. I don’t know why this is such an issue with some in the US. People who wanted to leave the US for Canada after 2016 found out real quick they’re stricter than us and whiter than us, but somehow the libs feel like it’s a safe haven from the US. I think the last debate should wake ppl up a bit. Both parties suck, we have dudes in their 80’s running the show, and none of them can actually relate with what we’re dealing with these days. It’s seriously embarrassing.


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2020, 10:24:34 PM
Flooding the labor pool with low income immigrants is very pro-business because it makes labor cheaper

(Not the only reason)
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2020, 10:32:22 PM
Flooding the labor pool with low income immigrants is very pro-business because it makes labor cheaper

(Not the only reason)
You guys want a $15 minimum wage movement too. For Fast food workers. I didn’t get this out of college. Free college too!


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 10:38:38 PM
Flooding the labor pool with low income immigrants is very pro-business because it makes labor cheaper

keeping a tenth of the labor force illegal depresses wages.  legalizing them would not have that effect.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 10:41:30 PM
You guys want a $15 minimum wage movement too. For Fast food workers. I didn’t get this out of college. Free college too!

anchoring your policy preferences in ensuring that conditions remain unchanged from when you graduated from college doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2020, 10:48:17 PM
Flooding the labor pool with low income immigrants is very pro-business because it makes labor cheaper

keeping a tenth of the labor force illegal depresses wages.  legalizing them would not have that effect.
You might be right, assuming immigration stops
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2020, 10:48:19 PM
There needs to be a in between in this matter. Giving a over minimum wage for normal work, doesn’t push this countries people to work for greater things. We’ll get dumber and lazier with time. People will stop pushing themselves, because “it’s comfortable “.


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 10:53:18 PM
You might be right, assuming immigration stops

you don't need to assume immigration stops.  immigration doesn't depress the wages of native-born workers.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Spracne on October 01, 2020, 10:54:53 PM
There needs to be a in between in this matter. Giving a over minimum wage for normal work, doesn’t push this countries people to work for greater things. We’ll get dumber and lazier with time. People will stop pushing themselves, because “it’s comfortable “.


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Idk, Wacks. $15/hr for a fry cook at McD's wouldn't make one fat and happy--McD's fries and weed do that. Assuming 2,080 work hours in a year, that works out to a gross amount of $31,200. Consider the fact that most McD's workers probably don't work 2,080 hours/yr, and then factor in taxes, healthcare, etc., and it's not exactly easy livin', even at $15/hr.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 10:55:32 PM
btw, i've told you this before, but it is very tiresome that you continually suggest that i'm trolling when i post something you disagree with.  i sometimes write something as a joke, irony, sarcasm, what have you.  i think it's usually pretty obvious.  i do not troll.  i have almost no interest in soliciting responses to my posts.

you should really just accept that we have different opinions on some subjects.

I don't think you're trolling because you disagree with me, I think you're trolling because I'm attempting to give you credit for not sounding like a rough ridin' lunatic. You called that woman trash and a piece of crap not because she did anything harmful or offensive to another human being but because she has a different viewpoint on how to grow the economy of the country. You started this rant because she had the audacity to tell a pharma executive that his bonuses shouldn't be directly tied to increasing the cost of cancer medication.

I'm assuming you're trolling because presumably people here, that I know, also know you personally and don't think you're a despicable, intolerant sack of crap who would call a stranger trash and a piece of crap based on such flimsy reasoning. Just like I assumed you aren't a rough ridin' abhorrent human being who spent three years being serious calling people nazis because of they like a college basketball team.

If you want me and I suppose everyone else to take you seriously when you're behaving like a rough ridin' psychopath, I certainly will. I'd like to think the people I know who know you, and the same people who presumably also aren't taking you seriously when sound like an unhinged lunatic are a better judge of character than to think you are serious when you do this stupid crap.

sys is basically a never-trump republican who used to hate cops that posts with the zeal of the dirtbag left

I mean I don't care about his politics in this case. Most of this board are never trumper republicans, but they don't behave like unhinged lunatics. I don't remember steve dave calling Rashida Talib an ignorant $!#*. I don't remember you calling Brian Fitzpatrick a stupid cocksucker. I thought the dude wasn't a psychopath, guess I was wrong. Homeboy seemed to be pissed I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2020, 11:02:07 PM
There needs to be a in between in this matter. Giving a over minimum wage for normal work, doesn’t push this countries people to work for greater things. We’ll get dumber and lazier with time. People will stop pushing themselves, because “it’s comfortable “.


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Idk, Wacks. $15/hr for a fry cook at McD's wouldn't make one fat and happy--McD's fries and weed do that. Assuming 2,080 work hours in a year, that works out to a gross amount of $31,200. Consider the fact that most McD's workers probably don't work 2,080 hours/yr, and then factor in taxes, healthcare, etc., and it's not exactly easy livin', even at $15/hr.
No student loans though. You could live like a king in some places in America. I made 24K out of college doing pbp, radio, and sales in Garden City. Learned about life real quick and adjusted my future.


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 11:03:27 PM
Homeboy seemed to be pissed I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

i was mad because i've asked you several times to stop implying that i'm trolling, an allegation that is belied by probably something like 99.99% of my posts, and you continue to do so.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2020, 11:04:19 PM
Also worked like 60 hours a week doing this, with a bartender gig, when I wasn’t calling games.


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 11:07:55 PM
how well would that lifestyle work for you currently, wackycat?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2020, 11:08:29 PM
implying that i'm trolling, an allegation that is belied by probably something like 99.99% of my posts

 :bait:
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2020, 11:09:25 PM


You might be right, assuming immigration stops

you don't need to assume immigration stops.  immigration doesn't depress the wages of native-born workers.

That's not what I said
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2020, 11:12:00 PM
implying that i'm trolling, an allegation that is belied by probably something like 99.99% of my posts

 :bait:

Lol
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 11:15:07 PM
That's not what I said

then why would you need to assume that immigration stops?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 11:22:35 PM
Homeboy seemed to be pissed I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

i was mad because i've asked you several times to stop implying that i'm trolling, an allegation that is belied by probably something like 99.99% of my posts, and you continue to do so.

I told you specifically why in this case I legitimately thought you were trolling. The other three times I've done it on this board were probably best described by rusty, I misunderstood where you were politically, although I'm guessing in those cases the reaction was because I felt you were overly harsh or seemed to take something relatively trivial, personally. Now I know better, it won't happen again. I will take literally every word you type on a message board very seriously and not as trolling, sarcasm, satire, or facetiousness.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2020, 11:24:52 PM
how well would that lifestyle work for you currently, wackycat?
I overcame it, bud. It was 5 years of bullshit, but I did it. Kinda what this country is about.


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 11:25:18 PM
I will take literally every word you type on a message board very seriously and not as trolling, sarcasm, satire, or facetiousness.

that's all i've ever wanted.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 11:26:12 PM
There needs to be a in between in this matter. Giving a over minimum wage for normal work, doesn’t push this countries people to work for greater things. We’ll get dumber and lazier with time. People will stop pushing themselves, because “it’s comfortable “.


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Idk, Wacks. $15/hr for a fry cook at McD's wouldn't make one fat and happy--McD's fries and weed do that. Assuming 2,080 work hours in a year, that works out to a gross amount of $31,200. Consider the fact that most McD's workers probably don't work 2,080 hours/yr, and then factor in taxes, healthcare, etc., and it's not exactly easy livin', even at $15/hr.
No student loans though. You could live like a king in some places in America. I made 24K out of college doing pbp, radio, and sales in Garden City. Learned about life real quick and adjusted my future.


Great post, welcome back spracne.

Wacky, I wouldn't make the assumption that fast food workers don't have student loans, even if they didn't, so what? I'd be willing to bet we could eliminate some student debt by increasing the minimum wage. I bet you worked a job in college for the current embarrassing federal minimum wage, like most of us did.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 11:26:59 PM
I will take literally every word you type on a message board very seriously and not as trolling, sarcasm, satire, or facetiousness.

that's all i've ever wanted.

lol, I doubt that but you got it.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 11:28:33 PM
I overcame it, bud. It was 5 years of bullshit, but I did it. Kinda what this country is about.

maybe we can chalk up the unfortunately easy life of 22 year old recent graduates as a price we're willing to pay so that others who need to work the same jobs to survive can live a life of dignity?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2020, 11:32:34 PM
You’re correct, MIR. But as an assistant sports director for 91.9, I cut hours to make sure I had enough tape to get a gig after college. I was obviously oblivious to the future of sports radio, but I was drowned in private loan debt that will happily be paid off in the next two years, so I feel like I’ve come a long way. I want to help out future ppl, but don’t feel like hand outs will help them.


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 11:32:55 PM
I will take literally every word you type on a message board very seriously and not as trolling, sarcasm, satire, or facetiousness.

that's all i've ever wanted.

lol, I doubt that but you got it.

:sigh:  you couldn't even make it through one post.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2020, 11:37:17 PM
I overcame it, bud. It was 5 years of bullshit, but I did it. Kinda what this country is about.

maybe we can chalk up the unfortunately easy life of 22 year old recent graduates as a price we're willing to pay so that others who need to work the same jobs to survive can live a life of dignity?
I guess I’m just bitter and still paying for it. 2008 class needs a handout, if we’re giving handouts. I’m speaking with buds that came out in a good economy from K-State, delegating politics, and didn’t live at home after college though.


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 11:45:41 PM
I will take literally every word you type on a message board very seriously and not as trolling, sarcasm, satire, or facetiousness.

that's all i've ever wanted.

lol, I doubt that but you got it.

:sigh:  you couldn't even make it through one post.

You have 35,000 posts here, I'm not going to entertain the ridiculous idea that every single one of those sentiments have been sincere. I'd say I feel like I'm being Punk'd, but a promise is a promise.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 11:49:46 PM
You have 35,000 posts here, I'm not going to entertain the ridiculous idea that every single one of those sentiments have been sincere. I'd say I feel like I'm being Punk'd, but a promise is a promise.

i joke around, as most of us do, but i promise you i do not make a habit of posting things i do not believe in a way that insinuates that i do believe them in order to elict responses.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 11:50:08 PM
You’re correct, MIR. But as an assistant sports director for 91.9, I cut hours to make sure I had enough tape to get a gig after college. I was obviously oblivious to the future of sports radio, but I was drowned in private loan debt that will happily be paid off in the next two years, so I feel like I’ve come a long way. I want to help out future ppl, but don’t feel like hand outs will help them.


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How have you equated a higher minimum wage to a hand out, it's still work? Using that logic you got a handout too. The first minimum wage in this country was $0.25/hr, which accounting for inflation, was still less than what you made.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 01, 2020, 11:54:25 PM
Sorry in advance.

It’s about the weight of the bootstraps tho MIR. While a single bootstrap is worth the same amount of dollars, the weight of a bootstrap is variable over time. Obviously the Wacky bootstraps were very heavy.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2020, 11:55:37 PM
Because no one would try to improve their situation if they are working full time for $31k a year
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 02, 2020, 12:14:58 AM
I had private loans to get through college, I pay $700 a month in payments. Since like 2009 I’ve been making these monthly payments. I turned 24K a year (2009) into 6 figures now at the age of 36. I still have 2 years left of paying off this crap. The board owner left college with like 30K in debt and the big dummy’s of the world had their college paid for. Don’t lecture us about free crap.


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2020, 12:19:55 AM
What's happening here? What just happened?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Tobias on October 02, 2020, 12:28:52 AM
alcohol
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Trim on October 02, 2020, 12:30:55 AM
btw, i've told you this before, but it is very tiresome that you continually suggest that i'm trolling when i post something you disagree with.  i sometimes write something as a joke, irony, sarcasm, what have you.  i think it's usually pretty obvious.  i do not troll.  i have almost no interest in soliciting responses to my posts.

you should really just accept that we have different opinions on some subjects.

I don't think you're trolling because you disagree with me, I think you're trolling because I'm attempting to give you credit for not sounding like a rough ridin' lunatic. You called that woman trash and a piece of crap not because she did anything harmful or offensive to another human being but because she has a different viewpoint on how to grow the economy of the country. You started this rant because she had the audacity to tell a pharma executive that his bonuses shouldn't be directly tied to increasing the cost of cancer medication.

I'm assuming you're trolling because presumably people here, that I know, also know you personally and don't think you're a despicable, intolerant sack of crap who would call a stranger trash and a piece of crap based on such flimsy reasoning. Just like I assumed you aren't a rough ridin' abhorrent human being who spent three years being serious calling people nazis because of they like a college basketball team.

If you want me and I suppose everyone else to take you seriously when you're behaving like a rough ridin' psychopath, I certainly will. I'd like to think the people I know who know you, and the same people who presumably also aren't taking you seriously when sound like an unhinged lunatic are a better judge of character than to think you are serious when you do this stupid crap.

sys is basically a never-trump republican who used to hate cops that posts with the zeal of the dirtbag left

Serendipitous!

Battery of a police officer

 :drool:


Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 02, 2020, 12:31:18 AM
What's happening here? What just happened?
Facts, dude. There’s a whole world out there now that you’re not accustomed to.


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 02, 2020, 12:32:24 AM
alcohol
Lol. Salina pot head has spoken.


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: nicname on October 02, 2020, 12:58:06 AM
I will take literally every word you type on a message board very seriously and not as trolling, sarcasm, satire, or facetiousness.

that's all i've ever wanted.

lol, I doubt that but you got it.

:sigh:  you couldn't even make it through one post.

You have 35,000 posts here, I'm not going to entertain the ridiculous idea that every single one of those sentiments have been sincere. I'd say I feel like I'm being Punk'd, but a promise is a promise.

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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: nicname on October 02, 2020, 01:03:15 AM
btw, i've told you this before, but it is very tiresome that you continually suggest that i'm trolling when i post something you disagree with.  i sometimes write something as a joke, irony, sarcasm, what have you.  i think it's usually pretty obvious.  i do not troll.  i have almost no interest in soliciting responses to my posts.

you should really just accept that we have different opinions on some subjects.

I don't think you're trolling because you disagree with me, I think you're trolling because I'm attempting to give you credit for not sounding like a rough ridin' lunatic. You called that woman trash and a piece of crap not because she did anything harmful or offensive to another human being but because she has a different viewpoint on how to grow the economy of the country. You started this rant because she had the audacity to tell a pharma executive that his bonuses shouldn't be directly tied to increasing the cost of cancer medication.

I'm assuming you're trolling because presumably people here, that I know, also know you personally and don't think you're a despicable, intolerant sack of crap who would call a stranger trash and a piece of crap based on such flimsy reasoning. Just like I assumed you aren't a rough ridin' abhorrent human being who spent three years being serious calling people nazis because of they like a college basketball team.

If you want me and I suppose everyone else to take you seriously when you're behaving like a rough ridin' psychopath, I certainly will. I'd like to think the people I know who know you, and the same people who presumably also aren't taking you seriously when sound like an unhinged lunatic are a better judge of character than to think you are serious when you do this stupid crap.

sys is basically a never-trump republican who used to hate cops that posts with the zeal of the dirtbag left

Serendipitous!

Battery of a police officer

 :drool:



(https://i.imgur.com/X7n8oJd.jpg)
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: nicname on October 02, 2020, 01:03:43 AM
This is just an awesome thread derail btw.

Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2020, 01:03:58 AM
What's happening here? What just happened?
Facts, dude. There’s a whole world out there now that you’re not accustomed to.


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What the hell are you talking about?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2020, 01:10:13 AM
I will take literally every word you type on a message board very seriously and not as trolling, sarcasm, satire, or facetiousness.

that's all i've ever wanted.

lol, I doubt that but you got it.

:sigh:  you couldn't even make it through one post.

You have 35,000 posts here, I'm not going to entertain the ridiculous idea that every single one of those sentiments have been sincere. I'd say I feel like I'm being Punk'd, but a promise is a promise.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5XptSCCciU[/youtube]

This song is one of my top five favorite songs of all time. I remember exactly where I was the first time I heard it. I was in my new apartment in Manhattan, two weeks after I got there in 1996. I brought this album from Hastings with my disbursement check. I was in my bedroom with my girlfriend and we listened back after we heard it the first time, I cried and fell in love with Fiona Apple.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2020, 01:18:56 AM
24 years later and I still get butterflies every single time I hear that song, everything just stops. Fiona Apple has a beautiful voice and was a transcendent talent. Like Kanye, being a tortured artist made for amazing music but that comet burned hot and bright but dimmed way too fast. My God I love that song.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 02, 2020, 01:22:10 AM
This is just an awesome thread derail btw.
This thread has been resurrected so YOLO!
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: nicname on October 02, 2020, 01:23:52 AM
I will take literally every word you type on a message board very seriously and not as trolling, sarcasm, satire, or facetiousness.

that's all i've ever wanted.

lol, I doubt that but you got it.

:sigh:  you couldn't even make it through one post.

You have 35,000 posts here, I'm not going to entertain the ridiculous idea that every single one of those sentiments have been sincere. I'd say I feel like I'm being Punk'd, but a promise is a promise.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5XptSCCciU[/youtube]

This song is one of my top five favorite songs of all time. I remember exactly where I was the first time I heard it. I was in my new apartment in Manhattan, two weeks after I got there in 1996. I brought this album from Hastings with my disbursement check. I was in my bedroom with my girlfriend and we listened back after we heard it the first time, I cried and fell in love with Fiona Apple.

Best song on the album imo. Apparently it's one of a few songs that she refuses to perform these days.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: nicname on October 02, 2020, 01:31:03 AM
24 years later and I still get butterflies every single time I hear that song, everything just stops. Fiona Apple has a beautiful voice and was a transcendent talent. Like Kanye, being a tortured artist made for amazing music but that comet burned hot and bright but dimmed way too fast. My God I love that song.

Peak Kanye imo.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKuJo1eaq8w[/youtube]
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2020, 01:39:46 AM
I will take literally every word you type on a message board very seriously and not as trolling, sarcasm, satire, or facetiousness.

that's all i've ever wanted.

lol, I doubt that but you got it.

:sigh:  you couldn't even make it through one post.

You have 35,000 posts here, I'm not going to entertain the ridiculous idea that every single one of those sentiments have been sincere. I'd say I feel like I'm being Punk'd, but a promise is a promise.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5XptSCCciU[/youtube]

This song is one of my top five favorite songs of all time. I remember exactly where I was the first time I heard it. I was in my new apartment in Manhattan, two weeks after I got there in 1996. I brought this album from Hastings with my disbursement check. I was in my bedroom with my girlfriend and we listened back after we heard it the first time, I cried and fell in love with Fiona Apple.

Best song on the album imo. Apparently it's one of a few songs that she refuses to perform these days.

It's a deeply personal song, although not as personal as sullen girl, she probably doesn't want to revisit that, dunno. I've been afraid to see her in person, I don't want the experience to take away from how I feel about her music from back then. I did have a chance to see her at Lilith Fair in Bonner Springs in 1997 but had to miss the concert. I was devastated.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 02, 2020, 11:20:03 AM
dang mir getting all mush itt
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2020, 12:05:55 PM
I'll be back to calling people motherfuckers soon enough.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 8manpick on October 02, 2020, 03:41:19 PM
Wow, opened this thread, watched a video about someone criticizing pharma executive pay, then figured I’d read the rest before posting about it. What a ride.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: 8manpick on October 02, 2020, 03:43:06 PM
“I had a shitty time coming out of school back in my day so people need to keep having a shitty time” is one hell of a taek.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: chum1 on October 31, 2020, 05:01:05 PM
https://twitter.com/katieporteroc/status/1322560947525840896
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: star seed 7 on December 03, 2020, 09:10:25 AM
she's trash.  new elizabeth warren.

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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: chum1 on May 18, 2021, 04:00:44 PM
https://twitter.com/RepKatiePorter/status/1394724627566391297
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MakeItRain on May 18, 2021, 07:16:52 PM
Oh man, sys and kim carnes trigger warning needed
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Institutional Control on June 17, 2021, 09:25:30 PM
So, my insurance doesn’t cover name brand drugs. My daughters neurologist prescribed her a medication that doesn’t have a generic yet.  He gave me a coupon for 50% off.  Take it in to be filled and the pharmacy says that will it be $537.  Oh, but I have a coupon and they tell me that’s the price after the coupon.

So, the drug company has some program you can enroll in for discounted pricing. So, I ended up getting it for $340.  So, $340 a month every month, forever.


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Title: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 17, 2021, 09:34:53 PM
So, my insurance doesn’t cover name brand drugs. My daughters neurologist prescribed her a medication that doesn’t have a generic yet.  He gave me a coupon for 50% off.  Take it in to be filled and the pharmacy says that will it be $537.  Oh, but I have a coupon and they tell me that’s the price after the coupon.

So, the drug company has some program you can enroll in for discounted pricing. So, I ended up getting it for $340.  So, $340 a month every month, forever.


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I was recently diagnosed with a pretty rare disease. I’m fine but it’s a chronic condition that could get worse over time, and there is no cure. I started the first kind of treatment for it, but if this doesn’t work there is a much better treatment, and really the only treatment. It’s $20k a year…..:blank:
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Spracne on June 17, 2021, 11:20:27 PM
Yeah, our system sucks. Even if you have "Cadillac" insurance, try being out of the country for more than a month and trying to convince your insurer to authorize a 90-day supply of your expensive-ass prescription. (Hint: they won't.)
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on June 18, 2021, 09:21:25 AM
i will never understand why we do things this way in america. I mean i do understand it from the sense that pharma companies have a tremendous amount of resources to ensure that the laws are not changed in a way that would benefit the masses, but damn.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 20, 2022, 12:05:58 PM
https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj.o1808

“It is always difficult to prove a negative, but I think we can safely say that after a vast amount of research conducted over several decades there is no convincing evidence that depression is caused by serotonin abnormalities, particularly by lower levels or reduced activity of serotonin.”
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 22, 2024, 08:56:32 PM
The cost of some of these drugs is insane. This doesn’t even include several of my infusions. Each infusion I have(every 6 weeks forever) is $40k

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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Spracne on March 22, 2024, 09:16:36 PM
Yikes. Let's hope the pre-existing conditions status quo remains unchanged. I'm in a similar boat, but yours is like a yacht.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Katpappy on March 23, 2024, 05:39:24 PM
Just started with Medicare and elected to purchase supplemental ins.  Had to purchase a prescription plan and now a couple of my drugs went from a total of $49 to $1400 per month.  eff BIG PHARM!!!
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Spracne on March 23, 2024, 07:18:16 PM
Just started with Medicare and elected to purchase supplemental ins.  Had to purchase a prescription plan and now a couple of my drugs went from a total of $49 to $1400 per month.  eff BIG PHARM!!!

There's a gov't tool you can use to choose a Part D plan where you input your prescriptions and it tells which which plans cover them. You probably aren't in a special enrollment period (but maybe?!). If you aren't, do that this fall. Or invent an excuse for a special enrollment period.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2024, 08:13:27 PM
Good info spracne


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2024, 09:04:27 PM
Yep
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2024, 09:05:21 PM
And also, WTF are we doing when retirees have to do that. Jesus Christ. We can do better, can’t we?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Spracne on March 23, 2024, 09:11:33 PM
Good info spracne


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Spracne on March 23, 2024, 09:14:01 PM
And also, WTF are we doing when retirees have to do that. Jesus Christ. We can do better, can’t we?

Can we? Yes. Will we? Ehhhhhhhh.

I think it was Dubya who fostered in Part D, which was a big improvement. But it was incremental improvement. Biden is trying to address this now, though.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: MadCat on March 25, 2024, 12:45:44 PM
I feel like we would be better represented if lawmakers had to deal with life issues with the same resources as their constituents
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2024, 01:25:19 PM
I feel like we would be better represented if lawmakers had to deal with life issues with the same resources as their constituents

I’m pretty sure this was the exact lead in to the French revolution
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 25, 2024, 01:34:51 PM
Just started with Medicare and elected to purchase supplemental ins.  Had to purchase a prescription plan and now a couple of my drugs went from a total of $49 to $1400 per month.  eff BIG PHARM!!!

There's a gov't tool you can use to choose a Part D plan where you input your prescriptions and it tells which which plans cover them. You probably aren't in a special enrollment period (but maybe?!). If you aren't, do that this fall. Or invent an excuse for a special enrollment period.
The catch is that the companies like to switch around their "preferred" drugs every year so something that was "covered" one year becomes insanely expensive the next year. The Part D situation is a real mess.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: porky morgan on March 25, 2024, 01:45:17 PM
Okay Spracne I'll bite on your offer.
I recently closed out my company upon retirement and liquidated the assets, for some serious :kstategrad:
My medicare B payment is therefore adusted to the max premium. BUT
Moving forward I will only have my ss check as income and will live mostly on savings. Won't dig into the IRA for a few years.
My question is, when will the government adjust my medicare B premium back down to reflect my new reality of annual income?

(This feels like a KSO post, but at least it's not about spousal cheating.)
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Spracne on March 25, 2024, 05:57:35 PM
Okay Spracne I'll bite on your offer.
I recently closed out my company upon retirement and liquidated the assets, for some serious :kstategrad:
My medicare B payment is therefore adusted to the max premium. BUT
Moving forward I will only have my ss check as income and will live mostly on savings. Won't dig into the IRA for a few years.
My question is, when will the government adjust my medicare B premium back down to reflect my new reality of annual income?

(This feels like a KSO post, but at least it's not about spousal cheating.)

I assume that transaction was reflected on the return you filed last year? Your 2024 premiums are based on the return you filed in 2023, so your 2025 premiums will be based on the return you file this year, and so on.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: porky morgan on March 26, 2024, 11:25:57 AM
Makes sense
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 15, 2024, 04:16:20 PM
The cost of some of these drugs is insane. This doesn’t even include several of my infusions. Each infusion I have(every 6 weeks forever) is $40k

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240323/45ab50eb6d1d8109843d083e648f7ff5.jpg)

Had my infusion today and got a new bill. $416k

Based on what my March infusion cost the one today was about $47k
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Spracne on April 15, 2024, 04:22:35 PM
wtf? Unless things change (unlikely any time soon), you're going to be working until you die :(
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: OB_Won on April 15, 2024, 05:44:43 PM
wtf? Unless things change (unlikely any time soon), you're going to be working until you die :(
And for a company large enough to absorb those kinds of insurance claims without causing premiums to shoot up. What a mumped up system we have.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Spracne on April 15, 2024, 07:44:17 PM
wtf? Unless things change (unlikely any time soon), you're going to be working until you die :(
And for a company large enough to absorb those kinds of insurance claims without causing premiums to shoot up. What a mumped up system we have.

Until you mentioned it, I hadn't considered how mumped up our system is for the leading global superpower western democracy. Hmmm
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2024, 09:02:40 PM
Certainly the thing will go generic right?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: catastrophe on April 15, 2024, 09:14:58 PM
Certainly the thing will go generic right?
After 20 years or whatever. But there are so many big problems with our medical system that can be fixed by legislation that seems like a pretty poor consolidation.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Institutional Control on April 15, 2024, 09:20:30 PM
Certainly the thing will go generic right?
Nah, they just get extensions on their patents.

Between my daughter’s medication and mine, we typically meet our $6000 deductible by mid-March.


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Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: cfbandyman on April 15, 2024, 09:33:09 PM
It's crap like this that makes me a single issue voter for single payer and reigning in pharma like none other TBT. What insanity.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: OB_Won on April 15, 2024, 11:10:18 PM
wtf? Unless things change (unlikely any time soon), you're going to be working until you die :(
And for a company large enough to absorb those kinds of insurance claims without causing premiums to shoot up. What a mumped up system we have.

Until you mentioned it, I hadn't considered how mumped up our system is for the leading global superpower western democracy. Hmmm
The company I work at is going through this right now. We had a few very large claims last year, but we only have ~100 employees. Our broker for BCBS of TX quoted us a premium increase of 35% in response. That’s on a $6K deductible PPO. WTaF!?!  It is forcing our CEO/CFO/HR to consider the age of who they hire next, and the health history of who they keep. We are strongly in the black so I dont expect much to change. However, if we were struggling, or ran by a PE firm, I’m not sure I’d expect to see equitable treatment. Working in an “at will” state they can let you go for pretty much anything as long as they cover their butt and dont say/do anything stupid.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 15, 2024, 11:16:27 PM
Certainly the thing will go generic right?
After 20 years or whatever. But there are so many big problems with our medical system that can be fixed by legislation that seems like a pretty poor consolidation.
The drug was first approved in 1998(although it’s still not approved for my condition, only 2 medications are and the second was only approved this past Halloween) and I do get the generic version of it.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: Spracne on April 15, 2024, 11:30:04 PM
wtf? Unless things change (unlikely any time soon), you're going to be working until you die :(
And for a company large enough to absorb those kinds of insurance claims without causing premiums to shoot up. What a mumped up system we have.

Until you mentioned it, I hadn't considered how mumped up our system is for the leading global superpower western democracy. Hmmm
The company I work at is going through this right now. We had a few very large claims last year, but we only have ~100 employees. Our broker for BCBS of TX quoted us a premium increase of 35% in response. That’s on a $6K deductible PPO. WTaF!?!  It is forcing our CEO/CFO/HR to consider the age of who they hire next, and the health history of who they keep. We are strongly in the black so I dont expect much to change. However, if we were struggling, or ran by a PE firm, I’m not sure I’d expect to see equitable treatment. Working in an “at will” state they can let you go for pretty much anything as long as they cover their butt and dont say/do anything stupid.

We need to nationalize this crap already. What good is "innovation" if normal people can't afford it? I agree with the gov't rewarding true breakthroughs, but in my experience it's like "4 percent less chance of relapse versus this other thing. Here it is for more than the average American salary."
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: catastrophe on April 16, 2024, 09:05:56 AM
Certainly the thing will go generic right?
After 20 years or whatever. But there are so many big problems with our medical system that can be fixed by legislation that seems like a pretty poor consolidation.
The drug was first approved in 1998(although it’s still not approved for my condition, only 2 medications are and the second was only approved this past Halloween) and I do get the generic version of it.
Are you saying that your cost is for the generic version? Cause if so that doesn’t really seem like a pharmaceutical POS thing. It must be incredibly hard to make if a bunch of competitors aren’t willing to make a version for even half as much.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Companies being giant POS
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2024, 09:27:43 AM
I think on average generics are 80% cheaper than non generic so this shot thing in non generic form must be a real face melter.