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Title: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: MadCat on June 02, 2010, 09:33:56 AM
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The Gamecocks are still looking for a guarantee game in 2011 to fill the void created by Kansas State’s pulling out of an agreement to play.

With Oregon and Miami on the schedule, this was not the game I was expecting to see pulled.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
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The Gamecocks are still looking for a guarantee game in 2011 to fill the void created by Kansas State’s pulling out of an agreement to play.

With Oregon and Miami on the schedule, this was not the game I was expecting to see pulled.

If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: kcchiefdav on June 02, 2010, 09:38:58 AM
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The Gamecocks are still looking for a guarantee game in 2011 to fill the void created by Kansas State’s pulling out of an agreement to play.

With Oregon and Miami on the schedule, this was not the game I was expecting to see pulled.

If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.



Maybe a crappier team came at us with an offer to take less money to come play us.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: Pittcat on June 02, 2010, 10:51:18 AM
Good call IMO.  All should fear Jacksonville State.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: The42Yardstick on June 02, 2010, 11:19:59 AM
They were a top 25 team in 1-aa last year :ohno:
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: mcmwcat on June 02, 2010, 11:32:05 AM
If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

what's the big deal about making a bowl?  apparently going to bowls from 1993-2003 and winning a conference championship didn't really help recruiting.  good recruiting coaches help recruiting.  not independence bowls and not texas bowls.

and i'd much rather play oregon and miami in the regular season than play mississippi st in a meaningless game.

the only excuse i accept for crap non con schedules is the preparation angle.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 02, 2010, 11:33:45 AM
If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

what's the big deal about making a bowl.  apparently going to bowls from 1993-2003 and winning a conference championship didn't really help recruiting.  good recruiting coaches help recruiting.  not independence bowls and not texas bowls.

and i'd much rather play oregon and miami in the regular season than play mississippi st in a meaningless game.

the only reason i accept excuses for shiite non con schedules is the preparation angle.

going to bowls gives you a whole extra month of practices, which i hear is pretty important in developing football players. 
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2010, 11:39:28 AM
If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

what's the big deal about making a bowl?  apparently going to bowls from 1993-2003 and winning a conference championship didn't really help recruiting.  good recruiting coaches help recruiting.  not independence bowls and not texas bowls.

and i'd much rather play oregon and miami in the regular season than play mississippi st in a meaningless game.

the only excuse i accept for crap non con schedules is the preparation angle.

Is italics what I need to start using for sarcasm?  Honestly, I am not sure, so haven't started that practice.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: KITNfury on June 02, 2010, 11:40:35 AM
If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

what's the big deal about making a bowl?  apparently going to bowls from 1993-2003 and winning a conference championship didn't really help recruiting.  good recruiting coaches help recruiting.  not independence bowls and not texas bowls.

and i'd much rather play oregon and miami in the regular season than play mississippi st in a meaningless game.

the only excuse i accept for crap non con schedules is the preparation angle.
I almost agree with this except that I would say "what's the big deal about making a crap bowl?". "Big" bowl games are fun. Feels like you're actually playing for something, even if you're really not. Plus, we need money for a practice facility.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: mcmwcat on June 02, 2010, 12:06:11 PM
If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

what's the big deal about making a bowl.  apparently going to bowls from 1993-2003 and winning a conference championship didn't really help recruiting.  good recruiting coaches help recruiting.  not independence bowls and not texas bowls.

and i'd much rather play oregon and miami in the regular season than play mississippi st in a meaningless game.

the only reason i accept excuses for shiite non con schedules is the preparation angle.

going to bowls gives you a whole extra month of practices, which i hear is pretty important in developing football players. 

coach em up  :ksu:
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: Pett on June 02, 2010, 12:42:53 PM
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The Gamecocks are still looking for a guarantee game in 2011 to fill the void created by Kansas State’s pulling out of an agreement to play.

With Oregon and Miami on the schedule, this was not the game I was expecting to see pulled.

Snyd's has officially lost it. He's probably going to schedule Florida now or something.... :ohno:
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: Winters on June 02, 2010, 12:45:32 PM
They pushed FSU to the limit last year  :ohno:
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: MeatSauce on June 02, 2010, 12:51:52 PM
This was most likely done so we can schedule KU as an OOC cupcake in '11.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 02, 2010, 11:05:31 PM
Maybe Currie told Snyder that we don't have enough money to pay them whatever it was that they wanted for the guaranteed W. We'll probably replace them with a home and home with a Sunbelt Conference foe.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2010, 07:59:46 AM
If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

what's the big deal about making a bowl.  apparently going to bowls from 1993-2003 and winning a conference championship didn't really help recruiting.  good recruiting coaches help recruiting.  not independence bowls and not texas bowls.

and i'd much rather play oregon and miami in the regular season than play mississippi st in a meaningless game.

the only reason i accept excuses for shiite non con schedules is the preparation angle.

going to bowls gives you a whole extra month of practices, which i hear is pretty important in developing football players. 
chum1 is going to boom roast that statement when he sees it.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: mcmwcat on June 03, 2010, 08:23:33 AM
what gets KSU more money?  honoring the contracts with Miami and Oregon or dropping those 2 games and playing in the Independence Bowl?
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 03, 2010, 08:39:35 AM
what gets KSU more money?  honoring the contracts with Miami and Oregon or dropping those 2 games and playing in the Independence Bowl?

A lot of teams that go to the Independence Bowl make less than the travel expense of getting to the bowl, so we would probably make more money just keeping Miami and Oregon on the schedule. I would support buying out of one of these games, but not both.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: Pete on June 03, 2010, 08:54:30 AM
A lot of dumbasses in this thread.

I will fist fight anyone who thinks that scheduling tough in the non-con has any value at all.   Scheduling a soft non-con ensures bowl games, and consistent bowl games help recruiting and player development more than losing "big" non-con games and not going to bowls.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 03, 2010, 09:10:46 AM
A lot of dumbasses in this thread.

I will fist fight anyone who thinks that scheduling tough in the non-con has any value at all.   Scheduling a soft non-con ensures bowl games, and consistent bowl games help recruiting and player development more than losing "big" non-con games and not going to bowls.

You can schedule one good noncon opponent and even if you lose, you only have to go 3-5 in conference to get to a bowl game. This is assuming you don't lose to some crappy team like LA-LA.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: mcmwcat on June 03, 2010, 09:13:23 AM
meh.  would say good recruiting coaches mean more for recruiting than bowl games as is evident by the joke that become ksu football from 2004 - present.  

player development  :dunno:  seen a lot of teams play like ass after 3 weeks of player development and preparing for a meaningless game.  maybe better working on individual drills and weight lifting after 4 months of practicing and playing.

what's a little silly is that the schedule last year was a joke and we still couldn't get to a bowl.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: mcmwcat on June 03, 2010, 09:14:53 AM
also bowl games are for gheys
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 03, 2010, 09:17:00 AM
meh.  would say good recruiting coaches mean more for recruiting than bowl games as is evident by the joke that become ksu football from 2004 - present.  

player development  :dunno:  seen a lot of teams play like ass after 3 weeks of player development and preparing for a meaningless game.  maybe better working on individual drills and weight lifting after 4 months of practicing and playing.

what's a little silly is that the schedule last year was a joke and we still couldn't get to a bowl.

That was only because the schedule was so much of a joke that one of our wins didn't count.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 03, 2010, 09:17:20 AM
When we are making our pitch to the Pac 10, I'd rather be coming off a Pinstripe Bowl season than a no bowl season.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 03, 2010, 09:18:42 AM
When we are making our pitch to the Pac 10, I'd rather be coming off a Pinstripe Bowl season than a no bowl season.

We'll get the same response either way. It will be "No."
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: Fedor on June 03, 2010, 03:41:11 PM

player development  :dunno:  seen a lot of teams play like ass after 3 weeks of player development and preparing for a meaningless game.  maybe better working on individual drills and weight lifting after 4 months of practicing and playing.

what's a little silly is that the schedule last year was a joke and we still couldn't get to a bowl.

The player development that you heat about is the underclassmen.  Not the upperclassmen who are playing like ass because they wanted to go to the Fiesta Bowl and play for a national championship and instead are playing in the shitty Alamo Bowl.
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: mcmwcat on June 03, 2010, 03:48:36 PM
meh meh and meh
Title: Re: K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2010, 06:17:04 PM
When we are making our pitch to the Pac 10, I'd rather be coming off a Pinstripe Bowl season than a no bowl season.
i love this idea, could also wear pinstripe uniforms when making PAK 10 pitch and commemorating pinstripe bowl victory.