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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: 8manpick on March 19, 2019, 06:17:40 PM
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Given that he is again doubtful for the NCAAs...
Pretty (really?) good when on the court, but unavailable at crunch time. #3 out of our seniors?
P.S: Dean if you read this, there is still time to play in the tournament and redeem your legacy.
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He’s going in the rafters fam.
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He’s going in the rafters fam.
No.
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Gsmer
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He made back to back first team all big 12 teams on one foot. I mean he’s a legend.
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The LeBron of K-State
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Dean was a really good player for KSU when he was on. He sometimes completely disappeared from the game when he got timid. However he was a great overall cat and will be remembered as such. Will be weird not seeing him on the court anymore, he's been a staple the past 4 years.
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Not as hurtful of a KSU medical butchering as David Hoskins’.
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Loved Hoskins :bawl:
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he will be remembered for much more than he was.
i mean, 12 ppg. if his jersey does get retired i’d expect to see hanging up in the rafters only part of the time.
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edgy
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I mean, it’s clear now that Barry is the tops in this senior class, I think #2 is up for debate, and if Kam has a good tourney, the debate is over.
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Not even top 25 favorite cat
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im still choosing to believe it's psy ops and he plays sun
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I really really want to love Claws, and I mean I do like the guy, especially when he's on. But man....I LOVED David Hoskins. Wonder what that guy's up to.
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Not even top 25 favorite cat
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Man, he’s way up there for me. He’s a rare what-might-have-been case, because he still has some pretty heavy accomplishments/ moments that we can look back on. I’ll miss watching him play greatly.
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He was a damn good player.
I'll remember him having some really good games, don't remember many great games but that's because he usually did it pretty quietly, I guess.
I think I will forever remember his missed 3 at the end in Lawrence, though. That could've been a legacy/defining moment.
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He's probably the most inside/out player I've seen at K-State since Beasley. So yeah, he was really fun to watch. Top 10 cat for sure.
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Wade was plenty frustrating at times between injuries and refusing to take open shots on occasion, but he was a key part of STRA1GHT and I will always cherish him for that.
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I'll admit my basketball cat fandom has waned under King oscar but man I can't even think about Wade in the top 25 of players since the 80s much less ever. Just so many missing and / or quiet games. Stats probably prove me wrong though.
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Hanging his jersey in the rafters? Isn't that usually reserved for elite all-american type players, or is the criteria to qualify pretty easy these days?
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I mean, it’s clear now that Barry is the tops in this senior class, I think #2 is up for debate, and if Kam has a good tourney, the debate is over.
yep. barry gave a lot more to this team than wade because he had a lot more to give.
he’s a player that coaches love to have on their team but rarely do. oscar was lucky to have bbj.
dean, we hardly knew ya
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How many players have we had put together back to back big 12 first team seasons? I think it’s only Jake and Dean.
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It makes me sad to know he never won a tournament game.
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It makes me sad to know he never won a tournament game.
I mean...He kind of played against Kentucky last year.
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It makes me sad to know he never won a tournament game.
played against uk
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It makes me sad to know he never won a tournament game.
played against uk
Then I am happy again.
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I feel bad about his foot and I'm just not saying that. I'm not sure what he's saving it for? Any big man we've had that have been that talented I think would play;
Fred McCoy = play
Luis Colon = duh
Big white kid from wichita that was supposed to be hot crap but really wasn't = play
Matt Siebrandt = play (once got a tat before a game and still suited.)
These are the men I remember.
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Well that and Wake Forest counts on paper too. I'm sure that's what chings was hinting at tho however.
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Get out of here with that, what a garbage thing to say.
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How many players have we had put together back to back big 12 first team seasons? I think it’s only Jake and Dean.
Is this a sign of a great player or a weaker conference?
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Really fun player to watch. 1st team in back to back years is impressive, especially with most of this year on a sore foot.
I feel awful for him that this type of injury happened again. He won't get a chance to leave the type of legacy he could have because of something completely out of his control. It sucks.
However, he was part of a league title team and a really good 4 year player. Probably not quite rafter worthy IMO, but will be one of my favorites along with Barry for a long time.
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How many players have we had put together back to back big 12 first team seasons? I think it’s only Jake and Dean.
Is this a sign of a great player or a weaker conference?
Last year we had 4 sweet sixteen teams and 3 elite 8 teams from the conference, so I'm not sure the latter checks out.
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How many players have we had put together back to back big 12 first team seasons? I think it’s only Jake and Dean.
Is this a sign of a great player or a weaker conference?
A weaker conference compared to when? I think the big 12 was as good this year as it has been historically.
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How many players have we had put together back to back big 12 first team seasons? I think it’s only Jake and Dean.
Is this a sign of a great player or a weaker conference?
The Big 12 lacks a top dog on par with the ACC, SEC, or even Big 10 this year, but top to bottom the league is still very good. Still rated 1 or 2 in any and all metrics out here.
As for star power, probably a fair point. A couple guys in the mock draft first round and a few more in the 2nd, not a ton of star power. If Dean had remained healthy this year and last I have to think he'd be getting 2nd round mentions.
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I don't really care that much, but imo there is no way he should have his jersey retired. Barry I guess I will listen to arguments about.
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How many players have we had put together back to back big 12 first team seasons? I think it’s only Jake and Dean.
Is this a sign of a great player or a weaker conference?
Last year we had 4 sweet sixteen teams and 3 elite 8 teams from the conference, so I'm not sure the latter checks out.
Good point
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Dean has been a great player, and I have enjoyed watching him on the court. I think Dean had potential to be even better than what we have seen if he didn't have these lingering foot injuries. Super sad.
That being said, I don't think his jersey will be in the rafters.
Also...someone mentioned strength of conference. That is hard to gauge for me, but crazy looking back and seeing KU win it last year with 1 more loss than KSU/Tech this year....and they won it by 2 games.
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I don't really care that much, but imo there is no way he should have his jersey retired. Barry I guess I will listen to arguments about.
Agreed.
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Would like to see them both but honestly I’m not sure what the general metrics for being deserving are. I think we have had that discussion before but it’s been long enough that I don’t remember the general consensus. I would guess that Dean was a better player in advanced metrics but _fan probably has the data.
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There's no correlation between whose jerseys are hanging or will hang in the fOOD and who were the GOAT EMAWs.
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How deep we go in the tournament could potentially have a huge impact on how Brown is remembered. (As it should!)
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Brown will be in the record books for a long time. I think he deserves an all time spot regardless of what happens this tournament.
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I don't really care that much, but imo there is no way he should have his jersey retired. Barry I guess I will listen to arguments about.
Correct take
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I will listen to arguments on a Wade giant bobblehead, not on jersey retirement.
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a pretty big plus that wade has going in his favor is that he is a kansas kid. for some reason that makes a difference in how people think of players. like, people love sproles and jordy but they love them a lot more because they both grew up in ks and went to ks highschools. if barry was from abilene and dean was from wisconsin, it would be amazing how much more love bbj would get and how much less dean would get. boom there's a new take for everyone.
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I think Dean will be a pretty great b-ball alum as well. I think we will see him at a lot of Cats games/events going forward.
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I will listen to arguments on a Wade giant bobblehead, not on jersey retirement.
This seems like a good compromise. Would like for him to be wearing a dean wolf shirt.
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I think Dean will be a pretty great b-ball alum as well. I think we will see him at a lot of Cats games/events going forward.
Best keep up our ADA compliance
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a pretty big plus that wade has going in his favor is that he is a kansas kid. for some reason that makes a difference in how people think of players. like, people love sproles and jordy but they love them a lot more because they both grew up in ks and went to ks highschools. if barry was from abilene and dean was from wisconsin, it would be amazing how much more love bbj would get and how much less dean would get. boom there's a new take for everyone.
This is correct. I resemble this as well.
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I think Dean will be a pretty great b-ball alum as well. I think we will see him at a lot of Cats games/events going forward.
Yup, hope he has season ticks right at half court.... oh crap, I forgot there's a 14 foot aisle right there so no one can ever sit there
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:combofan:
a pretty big plus that wade has going in his favor is that he is a kansas kid. for some reason that makes a difference in how people think of players. like, people love sproles and jordy but they love them a lot more because they both grew up in ks and went to ks highschools. if barry was from abilene and dean was from wisconsin, it would be amazing how much more love bbj would get and how much less dean would get. boom there's a new take for everyone.
You mean like how Ed Nealy was a Kansas kid and therefore has his jersey hanging in the rafters. And is more remembered and revered than Blackman and Mitch.
(For you that don't know KSU basketball, Ed Nealy is the all time leading rebounder and played for the Bulls)
Fans love great KSU players no matter where they are from.
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He was probably revered back when people who watched him play were alive
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More remembered than Blackman and Mitch? I've never heard of the guy, but if you say so.
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
:dubious:
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More remembered than Blackman and Mitch? I've never heard of the guy, but if you say so.
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
:dubious:
Caste EMAWs have selective memory.
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I like finding out a player if from Kansas.
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Yes same, but I never seek out that info.
“Hey this The Flush fellow plays pretty good, I wonder if he’s from Kansas.” <— internal dialogue that has never happened
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cat97 was being pithy and sarcastic to assert that kansans actually AREN'T given preferential treatment from KSU basketball fans.
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cat97 was being pithy and sarcastic to assert that kansans actually AREN'T given preferential treatment from KSU basketball fans.
Every fan base likes local players.
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I don’t know a single squawk or hayseed who hates Ron Baker if this helps some of you guys out on how to comprehend not hating a local :Carl:
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cat97 was being pithy and sarcastic to assert that kansans actually AREN'T given preferential treatment from KSU basketball fans.
Every fan base likes local players.
Take it up with cat97 and give me a shout if you need me to help translate his stuff.
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Big-time fan of the homegrowns here
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Semi Ojeleye would maybe have been my favorite Kansas kid. Not sure who it is in the last decade, maybe nino.
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It really sucks that he's got the Walton/Sabonis/Bowie foot issue.
Still, I dont think he's rafter worthy. Helluva fun team he played on and I'll always wish he had The Flush's feet.
Seriously, him being betrayed by his feet just makes me feel bad for the guy.
Also, LOVED David Hoskins. The year Huggs took the Cats to Ames and we beat the flood aggies on their court, I remember DH grabbing a big OREB for a put back and one, and DH flexed those guns at the crowd. ISU fans didn't like DH doing that.
I was upset that he worked so hard and never got to play in an NCAA tourney game.
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Hoskins is incredibly overrated by our fan base imo. He was meh city.
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So is your face
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Jk Jk SD
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Could Hoskins dunk?
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Kansas great: Steve Henson!
:love:
(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/steve-henson-of-the-atlanta-hawks-dribbles-against-the-philadelphia-picture-id669913294?s=612x612)
(https://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Basketball/8443/8443-788616Fr.jpg)
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Hoskins is incredibly overrated by our fan base imo. He was meh city.
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ty
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well Barry and Wade both get bobble heads now it looks like :frown:
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What Could Have Been:
KSU Basketball 2018-19
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well Barry and Wade both get bobble heads now it looks like :frown:
I don't know what happened to Barry at the end of the season...last 3 games he was not the same.
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:combofan:a pretty big plus that wade has going in his favor is that he is a kansas kid. for some reason that makes a difference in how people think of players. like, people love sproles and jordy but they love them a lot more because they both grew up in ks and went to ks highschools. if barry was from abilene and dean was from wisconsin, it would be amazing how much more love bbj would get and how much less dean would get. boom there's a new take for everyone.
You mean like how Ed Nealy was a Kansas kid and therefore has his jersey hanging in the rafters. And is more remembered and revered than Blackman and Mitch.
(For you that don't know KSU basketball, Ed Nealy is the all time leading rebounder and played for the Bulls)
Fans love great KSU players no matter where they are from.
PREACH
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lol
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Hoskins is incredibly overrated by our fan base imo. He was meh city.
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Averaged 14 and 6 as a junior. Better than Wade as a senior :dunno:
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well Barry and Wade both get bobble heads now it looks like :frown:
I don't know what happened to Barry at the end of the season...last 3 games he was not the same.
He was playing on one knee. All three seniors basically gave their bodies for a big 12 ship.
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Hoskins is incredibly overrated by our fan base imo. He was meh city.
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You have a bad memory.
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https://twitter.com/reesey333/status/1121591409080000513
Tom
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https://twitter.com/reesey333/status/1121591409080000513
Tom
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SHE'S FROM MEADE, KS! :love:
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But why does he cry at night for Claws?
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Because he never got to finish off his legacy in NCAA Tournament games? Might still think he's injured? :dunno:
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if i'm being honest, i don't think the kid seemed very excited at all
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He's too young to really care about getting a basketball jersey that he can't wear.
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I heard oscar picked the jersey size. :facepalm:
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I heard oscar picked the jersey size. :facepalm:
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I see a kid with a smile on his face and smiling kids make me happy.
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signed a 2way deal with Beilein and the cavs
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Barry to T-Wolves for summer league
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Barry v Dean summer league live right now