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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Clevey 2 Times on February 12, 2019, 09:43:39 AM
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https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/college-gridiron-365/os-sp-college-football-overtime-0130-story.html (https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/college-gridiron-365/os-sp-college-football-overtime-0130-story.html)
Some talk of changing OT -- 2 point conversions from the outset? Eliminating kickers entirely in OT? Offenses starting 10 to 15 yards further from the end zone?
Also, Bowlsby quoted in relation to proposed change in targeting rule. Sounds like it'll fail, because the officials aren't supportive, but they are considering (again) a two tiered penalty. Less severe targeting would not result in ejection, more severe targeting would result in ejection. I've seen some questionable ejections for targeting the last few seasons, this two tiered system seems to make sense. The committee meets in Indy at the end of the month.
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College OT is fine and exciting enough.
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I'm all for a two-tiered targeting penalty.
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i want a minimum of 4 tiers
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I want rules to be as black and white as possible. I'm going to get tired of fanbases whining about how a tiered rule was applied in their instance.
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I do not like college OT.
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I'm all for a two-tiered targeting penalty.
All subjectivity in sports rules should be kept to an absolute minimum.
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Agree the two tier system would cause more problems than it fixes. Also seems to undermine the whole concept of eliminating dangerous hits.
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I do not like college OT.
Agree
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i like the current system but would like to see the first OT for each team start at the 50.
then move in 10 yds for every subsequent OT capping at the 20.
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I don't think they need to change OT to keep it shorter due to the 2nd 7 OT game in the last 10 years or so. Legislating freak occurrences is dumb.
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Yeah and also 7 OT games are awesome.
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https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1385317092132597761
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Just run 2-point plays in the first overtime :dunno:
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I really like the current overtime rule, but the over emphasis on the two point conversion is really stupid, imagine losing in the 3rd overtime because of two lousy yards. In a sport where winning and losing a single game means so much, this as a tiebreaker is unconscionable.
There were only three multiple overtime games last year and only one of those went beyond two overtimes. Two of those multiple games were all-time classics and no one wanted them to just "be done with." The NCAA can't get out of it's own way.
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I really like the current overtime rule, but the over emphasis on the two point conversion is really stupid, imagine losing in the 3rd overtime because of two lousy yards. In a sport where winning and losing a single game means so much, this as a tiebreaker is unconscionable.
There were only three multiple overtime games last year and only one of those went beyond two overtimes. Two of those multiple games were all-time classics and no one wanted them to just "be done with." The NCAA can't get out of it's own way.
25 lousy yards is also stupid
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I really like the current overtime rule, but the over emphasis on the two point conversion is really stupid, imagine losing in the 3rd overtime because of two lousy yards. In a sport where winning and losing a single game means so much, this as a tiebreaker is unconscionable.
There were only three multiple overtime games last year and only one of those went beyond two overtimes. Two of those multiple games were all-time classics and no one wanted them to just "be done with." The NCAA can't get out of it's own way.
25 lousy yards is also stupid
I don't think 25 is a gimme for a lot of college teams but I wouldn't be mad if they move back to the 35 or 40. That's really what they should be doing instead of the football version of a one-on-one layup to determine who wins a game.
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I really like the current overtime rule, but the over emphasis on the two point conversion is really stupid, imagine losing in the 3rd overtime because of two lousy yards. In a sport where winning and losing a single game means so much, this as a tiebreaker is unconscionable.
There were only three multiple overtime games last year and only one of those went beyond two overtimes. Two of those multiple games were all-time classics and no one wanted them to just "be done with." The NCAA can't get out of it's own way.
25 lousy yards is also stupid
I don't think 25 is a gimme for a lot of college teams but I wouldn't be mad if they move back to the 35 or 40. That's really what they should be doing instead of the football version of a one-on-one layup to determine who wins a game.
I'd be ok with punting being a factor
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I really like the current overtime rule, but the over emphasis on the two point conversion is really stupid, imagine losing in the 3rd overtime because of two lousy yards. In a sport where winning and losing a single game means so much, this as a tiebreaker is unconscionable.
There were only three multiple overtime games last year and only one of those went beyond two overtimes. Two of those multiple games were all-time classics and no one wanted them to just "be done with." The NCAA can't get out of it's own way.
25 lousy yards is also stupid
I don't think 25 is a gimme for a lot of college teams but I wouldn't be mad if they move back to the 35 or 40. That's really what they should be doing instead of the football version of a one-on-one layup to determine who wins a game.
This is totally fine with me. I really love CFB's OT rules, so much better than the NFLs (and that's after the much needed fix to who scores first). Moving it back definitely would keep the game focused on the competitive side more. I like rules that force you to perform more.
I though didn't mind the having to go for 2 after 3 OTs. Thinking back for example K-State vs A&M 4OT game, those 2 pt plays in the 3 OT made it more exciting as a fan. I don't think it was that much of a detriment, you still after all had to score a TD to even have the chance to score a 2 pt conversion. Also, at least the 2 pt conversion is at least a football play, not the most lay-uppy play for an extra point. There is more of a earning factor to it.
That being said, if you just go to alternating 2 pt plays then it is junky, it becomes more luck and less skill, and I don't like that.
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It’s a fix for something that wasn’t broken in the name of shorter games, like baseball’s crappy extra innings rule
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It’s a fix for something that wasn’t broken in the name of shorter games, like baseball’s crappy extra innings rule
eggggggggggg-ctly
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The only thing they need to get rid of is the extra point. Go for 2 after scoring a TD is the only option, since it is harder and more fun. This would shorten the game.
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The best way to shorten games would be to eliminate instant replay entirely or cap reviews to 30 seconds. If they can't figure it out in 30 seconds, the call on the field stands.
This should honestly apply to all sports
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Picking defense first ot wins 55% of the time. I guess taking out kickers entirely makes it 50/50? I think that would be better, I don’t like how the coin flip affects the outcome so much.
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Yes, completely remove field goals from overtime, both college and pro. Extra points are whatever.
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You really want to shorten games? Limit teams to 25 passing plays per game. There is no penalty flag for exceeded that number, but for every passing play you go over, the other team is awarded a point.
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I like that, but I think that it should be balanced somehow. Like maybe if a team hits 100 points exactly, their score goes back to zero.
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You really want to shorten games? Limit teams to 25 passing plays per game. There is no penalty flag for exceeded that number, but for every passing play you go over, the other team is awarded a point.
I would like the nuance of a team being down 4, passing for a TD, and then going for two because they gave up the point.
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These are all fantastic ideas. Most "sports" leaders are frankly terrible entertainment producers. This whole "sanctity of the record book" stuff that we see in sports is ridiculous. No one is telling Spielberg that he can have only so many CGI stunts in a movie, or telling those Game of Thrones guys they hit their maximum boobs shots.
I nominate Jordan Peele, Judd Apatow or Seth McFarlane as the commish of the new college football organization that breaks away from the NCAA.
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These are all fantastic ideas. Most "sports" leaders are frankly terrible entertainment producers. This whole "sanctity of the record book" stuff that we see in sports is ridiculous. No one is telling Spielberg that he can have only so many CGI stunts in a movie, or telling those Game of Thrones guys they hit their maximum boobs shots.
I nominate Jordan Peele, Judd Apatow or Seth McFarlane as the commish of the new college football organization that breaks away from the NCAA.
Remember the original XFL?
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One of my favorite things about esports is that they are absolutely unafraid to change rules or balance issues, even radically at times.
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These are all fantastic ideas. Most "sports" leaders are frankly terrible entertainment producers. This whole "sanctity of the record book" stuff that we see in sports is ridiculous. No one is telling Spielberg that he can have only so many CGI stunts in a movie, or telling those Game of Thrones guys they hit their maximum boobs shots.
I nominate Jordan Peele, Judd Apatow or Seth McFarlane as the commish of the new college football organization that breaks away from the NCAA.
Remember the original XFL?
Yes, and their heart was in the right place.
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One of my favorite things about esports is that they are absolutely unafraid to change rules or balance issues, even radically at times.
TOTALLY AGREE!
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I like spectacles. I like to be entertained. I want to see someone take crazy ass risks with sports. Some may fail, whatever. How about soccer, but with zero rules other than the ball needs to go into the net? It would probably just turn into a unresolvable rugby scrum at midfield, but I'd sure love to find out.
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I think the most innovative coaches in my new America Zero Rules Soccer League would handle it a bit like an MMA fight. Everyone go lock up their man in a ground-game strangle hold, and then hope your fastest guy gets the ball and just beats his man in the open field for the goal.
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I'm recruiting the jujitsu schools of the shanty towns of Brazil for my team, I'll tell you that much right now.
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I like spectacles. I like to be entertained. I want to see someone take crazy ass risks with sports. Some may fail, whatever. How about soccer, but with zero rules other than the ball needs to go into the net? It would probably just turn into a unresolvable rugby scrum at midfield, but I'd sure love to find out.
Rugby scrums are highly organized and tightly officiated
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https://youtu.be/EEyg1D9-XMk
Pete, your game already exists. Just need to popularize it.
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https://youtu.be/EEyg1D9-XMk
Pete, your game already exists. Just need to popularize it.
HOLY rough ridin' crap, IT DOES EXIST! :sdeek: :love:
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XFL 2.0 had a great thing with 1, 2, or 3 point PATs
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Tiebreaker: the two head coaches have to get on an enclosed trampoline with about 15 paint-covered nerf footballs and bounce around. Whoever gets paint on their clothes first is the loser. Socks don't count since the trampoline will probably be covered in paint anyway.
If the head coaches aren't medically cleared for sudden death, they may choose a proxy from the coaching staff with the exception of quality control coaches. It must be a position coach or coordinator. Or maybe there is a succession of who must be chosen...like HC > DC > OC
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What if you get some total madman coach who gets in the trampoline naked?
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I think the same rules as apply to a coach who would want to coach a full game in the nude. We don't want to overcomplicate things.
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One of my favorite things about esports is that they are absolutely unafraid to change rules or balance issues, even radically at times.
They don't have to contend with historical context, which absolutely matters.
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This seems a fairly big deal
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/clocks-will-run-after-first-downs-in-college-football-with-ncaa-set-to-change-half-century-old-rule-friday/
Def make end of half/game situations more interesting
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This seems a fairly big deal
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/clocks-will-run-after-first-downs-in-college-football-with-ncaa-set-to-change-half-century-old-rule-friday/
Def make end of half/game situations more interesting
It does say the clock will stop during the last 2 min of each half. Seems like they are just trying to shorten the games up a bit.
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This seems a fairly big deal
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/clocks-will-run-after-first-downs-in-college-football-with-ncaa-set-to-change-half-century-old-rule-friday/
Def make end of half/game situations more interesting
It does say the clock will stop during the last 2 min of each half. Seems like they are just trying to shorten the games up a bit.
Ah, well poor reading comprehension on my part, not a big change then
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Will they have a 2 min warning?
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no