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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: chum1 on October 28, 2018, 06:49:38 PM
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too many trips to Pizza Ranch for that guy
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I want someone better but if he's the best we can get then ok I guess
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Um...better?
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Oh hell no.
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Not going to be him.
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bret’s bets
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I mean if Venables and Leavitt don't answer on the first ring I could see him getting an interview and winning 7-10 games a year at Kansas State University.
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Won't be him. He got some issues.
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That he's not Craig Bohl, who we'll inevitably end up with? Yes, I agree, that will be an issue for The Mustang.
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That he's not Craig Bohl, who we'll inevitably end up with? Yes, I agree, that will be an issue for The Mustang.
yes, to expected
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or Leavitt, the 62yo.
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or could also be this stud
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I don't really know if Bret picked up a crack addiction or something, but if not he would be a great hire.
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Would take Bielma
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That he's not Craig Bohl, who we'll inevitably end up with? Yes, I agree, that will be an issue for The Mustang.
yes, to expected
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or Leavitt, the 62yo.
Bohl (who is 60) is an exciting 16-21 in the stellar Mountain West Conference (sarcasm alert). He replaced Dave Christensen who was fired after a 16-23 Mountain West record.
Klieman’s FBS coaching experience is 1 year as a DB coach for KU in 1997... My sense is that most P5 head coaches have coached at the FBS level in the last 20 years.
If this is the best that Taylor can get we are in big trouble.
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GUys, Snyder on his press conference just said he doesn't think about coaching the next year until after the season is over. Why are we talking about this now?
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GUys, Snyder on his press conference just said he doesn't think about coaching the next year until after the season is over. Why are we talking about this now?
We got beat badly by ou.
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GUys, Snyder on his press conference just said he doesn't think about coaching the next year until after the season is over. Why are we talking about this now?
because Tim Fitzgerald wrote an article on gpc.com
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Because the people have spoken and the people love Bret.
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I am not going to sit here and pretend like I would not enjoy Bret Bielema as coach of my Kansas State Wildcats.
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Would be nice hire. He's just loving that nfl life now. Can't see it happening.
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If he’s our coach he’s bert and that’s non negotiable
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Won't be him. He got some issues.
Who doesn't
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I will not take this seriously until I see at least THREE people post that the ink is dry and an announcement is coming this afternoon.
I will also use this time to bitch about the server speed because I might not be able to get another post in until midnight. Is this what it was like when you had to dial up? I'm trying for 1700 posts here people.
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I will also use this time to bitch about the server speed because I might not be able to get another post in until midnight. Is this what it was like when you had to dial up? I'm trying for 1700 posts here people.
This is what happens when more than 10 people a day try to post in this shithole
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I 100% agree that he is an absolutely perfect candidate. As I've said before, he both is and is not a Snyder guy.
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We have a very good track record with coaches who were fired from historically better programs. Bert is most definitely a KSU guy.
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Bret is a rough ridin’ heart attack/DUI/sex scandal away from having his OC take over 3 years into his contract.
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Bret is a rough ridin’ heart attack/DUI/sex scandal away from having his OC take over 3 years into his contract.
We're the school that hired Bob Huggins. We resurrected his career and he saved KSU basketball. Furthermore, he's coaching dlinemen at New England. You don't get that opportunity with Belichick if you don't have your act together.
Aside from being only the 2nd sleaziest dirtball to ever roam the sidelines in MHK under former LHCBS [Mangino?] Bret has got to be the most memorable. He was known to pork court a few scutterheads around campus in his time here (just ask Lefty), but there was also that time he got a DUI here and cried about it to the team begging for their forgiveness. Arkansas and Wiscy fans will be quick to tell you not much has changed.
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It would be one heck of a party.
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I like him more now
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I like this Oyster_Trousers guy
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Bret’s extracurricular’s don’t even register. He isn’t a very good football coach.
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I like this Oyster_Trousers guy
Seems like a total douche to me Ben
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I would take Bret in a heartbeat irl
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Bret’s extracurricular’s don’t even register. He isn’t a very good football coach.
Agreed, the big 10 voted him coach of the year because he isn't a very good football coach. Career .626 win pct. 12 year career: 2 losing seasons, 9 seasons of ranked teams.
His last 5 years of coaching a P5 team look like this:
Arkansas: 29–34 11–29
That’s a hard pass
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Hard pass for sure. He appears to have been on a very self destructive path for some years now.
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You can rationalize it however you want, including dropping Nichols State from the 2nd year schedule and making it look like they played Texas in the regular season, but he still sucks sorry.
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not only would beilema be the most risk averse hire of any non-babers candidate i've seen mentioned, he also carries the most upside.
as noted in the re-paste in two posts above this, i view his arkansas tenure as a positive, not a negative. his style of football will maximize k-state's chances of winning in the big 12, he specializes in defense which i think is a plus, he won at a level at wiscy that exceeds program maintainer - he actually took them to greater heights than alvarez did in the six years leading up to his hire - and he stood toe to toe with SEC powerhouses in his second year at a loser arkansas program.
beilema entered the SEC at its absolute peak, particularly the SEC west, where they had roughly five top-10 programs at the time of his arrival; and roughly seven or eight top-20 level teams overall. it would have been tough for urban meyer to turn that around, let alone beilema. don't get me wrong, urban would have turned the corner in due time. but it wouldn't be overnight. that was a hard, hard, hard situation to walk into.
again, i want to point out that in beilema's 2nd year at arkansas, he went up against what undoubtedly is the hardest schedule in the history of college football. they could play football another 100 years, and you won't see a team play a more challenging schedule. and beilema took that 2nd-year team, which was total crap the year prior, and finished 7-6 with a bowl win over texas. he beat ole miss 30-0 as a 3-pt underdog. he went 10-3 against the spread. it was a great coaching job, and arkansas was a top-15 level team. a year later, beilema went 8-5, had a top-20 level team, and also covered the spread in 8 of 13 games. he won three times as an underdog - all on the road, at lsu, at tennessee, at ole miss. he lost to bama by 13 (but covered the spread), he lost to a&m in OT (but covered the spread).
beilema can flat out coach.
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Idk I think the .626 win % coupled with a big 10 COY (and a handful of mediocre seasons where his teams quit buying in) is very gross and Snyderesque. I thought we were trying to get away from that.
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Idk I think the .626 win % coupled with a big 10 COY (and a handful of mediocre seasons where his teams quit buying in) is very gross and Snyderesque. I thought we were trying to get away from that.
k-state tried to get away from that. that's why they targeted the loser north texas coach. he said no, so here you are.
semi consistent 7-5 or 8-4 seasons with the occasional chance at something big when everything lines up every five years is the best that k-state is going to do until further notice. there is nothing in k-state's history, nothing in its recruiting rankings, nothing in its current program status, nothing in its budget, nothing in the level of coach it can possibly hire, to suggest otherwise at this moment in time.
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semi consistent 7-5 or 8-4 seasons with the occasional chance at something big when everything lines up every five years is the best that k-state is going to do until further notice. there is nothing in k-state's history, nothing in its recruiting rankings, nothing in its current program status, nothing in its budget, nothing in the level of coach it can possibly hire, to suggest otherwise at this moment in time.
Honestly this is what makes Corey Kleinmon so intriguing. Sure he's likely to go down in flames but there's a shot that he could be really amazing. Six losses in five years is insane!
I realize they are like the FCS version of Bama but still his record is pretty crazy!
Just do something different than what every single peer of KSU would do
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I feel like the arguments against Bret are basically the same as what the arguments against oscar were at the time. Which is lovely given that oscar has a top 20 ranked team coming off an Elite Eight year.
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Bielema, Venables and the Pirate would have to tell me a strong no before I considered a mid major candidate. I will agree that Brets desire should be questioned in the vetting process. LHC Bill Snyder, Barry Alvarez and Bill Belichick are pretty good evaluators of coaching talent and all 3 saw something special in Bielema. He seems happy with the Patriots and looks better than his last year at Arky.
Chum it's happening!!!
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Not being considered because he drinks a lot
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god damnit that rough rider recruited top 30 classes every single year to Arkansas. He looks like an obese Rob Riggle though. I guess I’ve let my bias towards his total disregard for his own well being cloud my ability to judge him as a high level recruiter and football coach.
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Interesting fact my wife use to babysit Rob Riggle’s kids when they still lived in OP.
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I feel like the arguments against Bret are basically the same as what the arguments against oscar were at the time. Which is lovely given that oscar has had a top 20 ranked team coming off an Elite Eight year.