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Title: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: renocat on September 05, 2018, 12:20:52 AM
I vote today was very bad for Democrats and and their hollering antifi friends in the gallery.  Where did they did up these rude people?  I watched about an hour of the C Span coverage of the opening session.  Made sick and angry?  Will this backfire on the Democrats?  Will the media so the anals in the gallery?  Will Booker Harris Senators participate in the hearing to find out about Kavanaugh or to position themselves to run for president?  Which Democrat irritates you the most; makes you want to shove steel wool up their butt?  Finally Democrats reason to vote no be simply on the grounds that Trump nominated Kavanaugh as Fienstien eluded to in her opening remarks?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 05, 2018, 03:49:54 PM
Dick M. Durbin, from Illinois said:
"But then the liberal senator suddenly shifted to what he identified as the real motivation for delaying Kavanaugh. “Over and above all those things is this: you are the nominee of President Donald John Trump,” Durbin said. “This is a president who has shown us consistently that he is contemptuous of the rule of law. He has said and done things as president that we have never seen before in our history.”
Translated - if Trump nominated you,  you are piece of crap.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 05, 2018, 04:09:02 PM
Reality dictates that he's really a slam dunk nominee and so they need lots of theatrics to try and stop his confirmation.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: treysolid on September 05, 2018, 04:17:43 PM
this thread deserves the largest eye-roll in the history of eye-rolls
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 05, 2018, 06:37:25 PM
I think this thread will further document that there's quite literally nothing Libs aren't melting down about.

It's really, well, it's really kinda sad.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 05, 2018, 08:00:47 PM
Its one bbs tirade after another smdh
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Kat Kid on September 05, 2018, 10:10:44 PM
It is all theater. I wish they just would say they don't like what he is going to do and then try to block him.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2018, 09:26:27 AM
https://twitter.com/charlie_savage/status/1037696284784779264

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1037700119515328512
https://twitter.com/KimberlyRobinsn/status/1037701170482106369
https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1037705065103085570
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 06, 2018, 09:39:43 AM
I like how these hearings always devolve into some kind of beta PI fest
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2018, 10:00:07 AM
 :eek:

https://twitter.com/fordm/status/1037715549843857409
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 06, 2018, 11:06:18 AM
Glory whores seeking media johns describes the action of Democrats panel members using this to launch their campaigns for president.  Even if their attacks are stooping and based in screw ball analysis taken out of historical perspective
Cory OBooker is going to issue Whitehouse emails from when Kavanaugh was in the Whitehouse counselor office trying to provide guidance to Bush on how to deal with terrorists after 9/11.  OBooker  doesn't seem to remember thousands of Americans died that at the hands of radical Muslim terrorists.  Emails deal with racial profiling Muslims in the period right after the attack.  Profiling is wrong now, but we were at war then.  I remember going through aireports when armed soldiers were walking the terminals with orders to kill suspicious persons.  To pull an email from this historical period of time to use it as proof that Kavanaugh is racist is beyond disgusting even for Democrat.  Such an un-American has no place in the Senate let alone being president.  People in Reno County  America believe in following rules.
Bad look but not for many stoopids who take the bait of this illogical twisted interpretation of history.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Kat Kid on September 06, 2018, 12:21:40 PM
I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that Kavanaugh believes the Supreme Court can overturn prior precedent and that Roe can be overturned and that he would like to.

Everyone already knew this and if we stopped with all the pretense, everyone would be better served. One of the primary reasons he is being added to the court is because he wants to overturn Roe.  Everyone should stop pretending they don't know this and just debate it as a policy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2018, 12:30:25 PM
I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that Kavanaugh believes the Supreme Court can overturn prior precedent and that Roe can be overturned and that he would like to.

Everyone already knew this and if we stopped with all the pretense, everyone would be better served. One of the primary reasons he is being added to the court is because he wants to overturn Roe.  Everyone should stop pretending they don't know this and just debate it as a policy.

I think the opposite. There is nothing to be gained here by discussing Roe v. Wade. Not releasing documents, on the other hand, gives the appearance of a cover-up. I'm more interested in that.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2018, 12:32:03 PM
GMAFB, Booker.

https://twitter.com/eschor/status/1037738866780921856
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 06, 2018, 12:36:15 PM
Nothing about this looks good for the dems. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2018, 12:36:39 PM
Lol, good grief
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Kat Kid on September 06, 2018, 12:37:04 PM
Booker is the worst.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Kat Kid on September 06, 2018, 12:53:59 PM
Seems relevant

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1037723994995269632
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: 8manpick on September 06, 2018, 01:02:33 PM
Seems relevant

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1037723994995269632

Seems perjury should be disqualifying
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2018, 01:09:56 PM
Here's another

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1037737330189185024
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 06, 2018, 01:32:21 PM
Thursday on CNN’s “Newsroom,” political director for the network David Chalian said Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) and Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) are using the Supreme Court confirmation hearing of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to impress their base voters for a 2020 presidential run.
 :shakesfist:
Neither give a pile of maggot infested horse crop whether Kavanaugh is qualified or not.  They are chucking barf bombs into the party just to get attention. 
If Booker is so willing to break rules, what laws will he break as President?
Harris is an extreme socialist who doesn't give a rip about our judicial system.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2018, 01:45:16 PM
This confirmation hearing really has reno's gruns in a twist
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2018, 03:04:58 PM
Good call on not releasing!  :rolleyes:

(https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5b917cb7200000420034c23d.png)

https://twitter.com/aterkel/status/1037790450172801024
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 06, 2018, 04:55:49 PM
Neonbutt Booker, great champion of racial injustice victims, swoll up like a big puss filled boil that he was going to release forbidden documents even if it would cost him his job as a Senator, his Spasticus moment for all of the whizzed on minorities in back water America.  What a noble champion. ..... before the hearing started the release of the emails were approved.  No nobility just self grandiose to score campaign brownie points.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 06, 2018, 09:35:33 PM
Booker is a fucktard (so is Harris), duh.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2018, 09:01:26 AM
Corey Booker  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 07, 2018, 03:04:04 PM
Seems relevant

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1037723994995269632

Here's another

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1037737330189185024

AND ANOTHER. I didn't understand the Leahy stuff before. This is a good summary. Kavanaugh appears to be pretty rough ridin' corrupt.

https://twitter.com/importantmeagan/status/1038096468765298688
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2018, 03:13:11 PM
He certainly seems to have a truth problem
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2018, 03:17:21 PM
So getting invited to a meeting means you talked about something?

Interesting.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 07, 2018, 03:29:27 PM
So getting invited to a meeting means you talked about something?

Interesting.

If by "meeting," you mean "hearing." And by "talked about," you mean "testified under oath." Then, yes, we might both be discussing things Brett Kavanaugh did.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2018, 03:37:59 PM
So getting invited to a meeting means you talked about something?

Interesting.

If by "meeting," you mean "hearing." And by "talked about," you mean "testified under oath." Then, yes, we might both be discussing things Brett Kavanaugh did.

I'm just reading the tweets, man.   The guy got invited to a meeting apparently.  People in business get invited to meetings all the time, and they get invited to meetings for things they're not actually in charge of or responsible for.   Sometimes they go to the meeting, and maybe give a little input, and then it's up to the people actually "handling" the matter to do the rest.   

But when you're invoking Spartacus, you are digging deep, so congrats for digging deep on this one, LibBots.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 07, 2018, 04:43:56 PM
He certainly seems to have a truth problem

https://twitter.com/SenFeinstein/status/1038088208784007168
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2018, 05:47:22 PM
Seems weird that Libs are suddenly concerned about wire tapping considering their guy put surveillance nation on steroids, but desperate times ya know.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 07, 2018, 06:46:13 PM
I don’t remember chum finding this much dirt in gorsuch, I’m kind of concerned.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 08, 2018, 09:37:32 AM
lol

https://twitter.com/KristinMinkDC/status/1038396317830193153
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: 8manpick on September 08, 2018, 10:20:45 AM
That’s pretty funny
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 08, 2018, 11:37:02 AM
Stoooopids are forever tarnishing the name Democrat.  Just pathetic.  They are like a mob of morons having a party in a cat litter box with the snacks being dog turds

These crazy socialistic bastards know they can never get their policies into national law.  So they use the courts and unlawful executive orders to install their agendas.  OPresideent makes up a law using an executive order, and then find a liberal judge who orders it to be law; circumventing Congress.  Republican does the same; liberal judge says bad dog, no law.  So get real conservative judges in place you end the from within takeover by judicial coup.  Rot is ended.
These spaszes are fighting for their lives.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 13, 2018, 12:12:40 PM
 :surprised:

https://twitter.com/irin/status/1040278721901604864
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 13, 2018, 01:43:06 PM
I don’t remember chum finding this much dirt in gorsuch, I’m kind of concerned.

As I understand it, they've got a huge volume of documents about Kav from his time working in the White House.  It seems to me like they're basically quizzing him on some of the stuff he did from 15+ years ago and calling him a liar when he gets it wrong.  Maybe there's something going on, but I'm not aware of anything really egregious at this point.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 13, 2018, 01:55:40 PM
It seems to me like they're basically quizzing him on some of the stuff he did from 15+ years ago and calling him a liar when he gets it wrong.

This is not correct. Not at all.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 13, 2018, 03:11:34 PM
https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1040331234843537411
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 13, 2018, 05:44:23 PM
Supposed bombshell dirt happened in high school by a young horny boy.
These Stoooopids, deranged, Democrats are low life scummy.  This has to backfire, right?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 17, 2018, 07:00:43 AM
Kavanaugh accused of hunching on a girl in High school.
Accuser.  He laid top of me and ground his pelvis into me.  In high school.  30 years ago.

MeToo weaponized by Democrats to stop a jurist because it may result in them no longer using the courts to enact policies they cannot pass or enacted by unconstitutional presidential executive orders.

The precedent established here is sickening.  Going back to kindergarten I suppose in the future.  He saw Sally''s panties on the jungle gym -- Gawd, lordy all Mighty, a raging pervert!  He played what?  Doctor.  Fry his but in the electric chair.

Why did this hide wait 30 years to come forth to destroy this man?  Why is it so convenient she is a professor like Anita Hill?  I would vote and not give this woman a forum in which to spew her embellished whopper distortion that have absolutely no bearing on whether Judge Kavanaugh i's fit for the Supreme Court. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2018, 07:29:13 AM
Everyone knows sexual assault doesn't count in high school
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 17, 2018, 08:05:59 AM
What a mess.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2018, 09:10:52 AM
A sex assaulter who loves lying is basically the gop sweet spot rn tho isn't it?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 17, 2018, 09:54:31 AM
A sex assaulter who loves lying is basically the gop sweet spot rn tho isn't it?

The "force yourself onto a woman who is not interested" seems to be
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 17, 2018, 10:13:08 AM
I think the lying stuff is very troubling and definitely worthy of further exploration. I’m pretty certain the sexual assault stuff is just bait to get a response out of FSD and dax but I’ve been wrong before.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: ChiComCat on September 17, 2018, 10:30:58 AM
Everyone knows sexual assault doesn't count in high school

Do we really want to apply such high standards to someone going for a lifetime appointment to the highest court?  Seems unfair
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 17, 2018, 10:34:20 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BnwjBsVnSN1/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Not a good look, Don Jr.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2018, 10:36:20 AM
uhhhhh

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1041709436564385796
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 17, 2018, 10:41:18 AM
creepo confirmed.  On to the next nominee
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 17, 2018, 10:42:38 AM
wait, is some of that the Kavanaugh guy or just his totally growdy bro?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 17, 2018, 10:46:16 AM
I think it's just his friend. Having a horndog bro shouldn't be disqualifying.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 17, 2018, 10:50:56 AM
Everyone knows sexual assault doesn't count in high school

Do we really want to apply such high standards to someone going for a lifetime appointment to the highest court?  Seems unfair
Great point.  LiberDemos trying to equate this with Anita Hill.  Hill was a grown woman supposedly harassed by a grown man.  I believe that Kavanaugh has for his adult life shown great professional relationships with women.  The thing the Showboating Democrats tried to sell at the hearing was Prevert Trump selected Kavanaugh so this makes Kavanaugh a woman harassing pervert thar doesn't you a condum.  A cardre of women provided testimonials that he ain't a Donvert or Bill the Thrillvert.

Any boy whoever went to a high school hunch dance is in jeopardy of having their careers ruined.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 17, 2018, 10:58:45 AM
Everyone knows sexual assault doesn't count in high school

Do we really want to apply such high standards to someone going for a lifetime appointment to the highest court?  Seems unfair
Great point.  LiberDemos trying to equate this with Anita Hill.  Hill was a grown woman supposedly harassed by a grown man.  I believe that Kavanaugh has for his adult life shown great professional relationships with women.  The thing the Showboating Democrats tried to sell at the hearing was Prevert Trump selected Kavanaugh so this makes Kavanaugh a woman harassing pervert thar doesn't you a condum.  A cardre of women provided testimonials that he ain't a Donvert or Bill the Thrillvert.

Any boy whoever went to a high school hunch dance is in jeopardy of having their careers ruined.

any loser asssaulty boy, yes.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2018, 11:10:32 AM
I lold but prob not good coming from jr
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 17, 2018, 12:32:01 PM
The initial anonymous tipster coming forward and making her sexual assault allegations public is a major development, IMO.  Seems kinda crappy for Feinstein to sit on that information for several months, but still worthy of investigation and you can't fault the woman for the delay.

On the other hand, having a buddy who shares vaguely sexual youtube content seems not newsworthy.

I also really don't see any of the supposed "lies" about what types of things he did in the Bush administration 17 years ago gaining any traction.  He's got a well-documented judicial record.  As long as he didn't sexually assault anyone I think he's fit for the role.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 17, 2018, 12:57:17 PM
out of the three rose ceremony finalists, he was the one i thought was least bad, so i thought it was good when he was picked.  but i now see that he is more rapey and more dishonest than i thought.  so it would be better to go with the runner up.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 17, 2018, 01:01:29 PM
uhhhhh

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1041709436564385796

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1041499444666163201
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 17, 2018, 01:27:31 PM
It's amazing that the documents McConnell thought most problematic for Kavanaugh's confirmation (and most problematic of all short list nominees) haven't even been released.

https://twitter.com/TIME/status/1041748672126636032
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 17, 2018, 02:34:08 PM
Woman's lawyer thought Bill the Thrill and Franken were okay molesting women.

Fox News: "But while her client's claims have raised bipartisan concerns about Kavanaugh, Katz, a longtime Democratic donor known for representing sexual harassment accusers, also has a history of downplaying or dismissing accusations made by women against Democratic politicians -- including former President Bill Clinton and former Minnesota Sen. Al Franken.

“Paula Jones' suit is very, very, very weak,” Katz said on CNN’s “Talkback Live” in March 1998 in a discussion about Jones’ claims against Clinton, according to a show transcript. “She's alleged one incident that took place in a hotel room that, by her own testimony, lasted 10 to 12 minutes. She suffered no repercussions in the workplace.”
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 17, 2018, 02:55:23 PM
Quote
Sanai said that he did not hold Kavanaugh responsible for Kozinski’s behavior, but rather that his claim of ignorance was not credible and could be contradicted by witnesses.

https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1041775438945837059
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 17, 2018, 03:39:21 PM
A cardre of women provided testimonials that he ain't a Donvert or Bill the Thrillvert.

I really don't get this argument. Just because he didn't harass every single woman he knows means he couldn't have harassed one particular woman?

The guy who raped my best friend in high school, I didn't know he was a rapist until years later when she told me. He wasn't rapey toward me, so should I not believe her?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2018, 04:33:20 PM
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1041666509733543936?s=21


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 17, 2018, 04:55:40 PM
it's kind of amazing how this went from a lose-lose for red state dems to a lose-lose for blue state pubs, politically.  just because they wanted the lyingest, rapiest candidate.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 17, 2018, 05:52:39 PM
uhhhhh

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1041709436564385796

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1041499444666163201

I like that this tweet implies there is some circumstance where that quote wouldn’t be :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 17, 2018, 09:00:15 PM
Even RBG is disgusted by the new lows the left has stooped to.

How anyone in good conscious could support a Democrat at this stage of that party's existence is pure insanity.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 18, 2018, 08:06:46 AM
https://www.healthline.com/health/mens-health/penile-fracture
Cause?
Run for office or get nominated for something.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 18, 2018, 08:15:29 AM
The initial anonymous tipster coming forward and making her sexual assault allegations public is a major development, IMO.  Seems kinda crappy for Feinstein to sit on that information for several months, but still worthy of investigation and you can't fault the woman for the delay.

On the other hand, having a buddy who shares vaguely sexual youtube content seems not newsworthy.

I also really don't see any of the supposed "lies" about what types of things he did in the Bush administration 17 years ago gaining any traction.  He's got a well-documented judicial record.  As long as he didn't sexually assault anyone I think he's fit for the role.

It's really great to know that a political system governing 300+ million people can be completely derailed by the frivolous 4 decade old allegations of a single psychopath and her hack political handler.

DEMOCRACY IN CRISIS --- L O rough ridin' L
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 18, 2018, 09:14:20 AM
Kav and the accuser both set to go under oath in front of the Senate. Pretty crazy to think that one of them will likely perjure themselves in the process.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: DQ12 on September 18, 2018, 09:23:31 AM
It's really great to know that a political system governing 300+ million people can be completely derailed by the frivolous 4 decade old allegations of a single psychopath and her hack political handler.

DEMOCRACY IN CRISIS --- L O rough ridin' L
I have so little sympathy for the GOP wrt supreme court nominees after the Garland episode. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 18, 2018, 09:24:48 AM
Pretty crazy to think that one of them will likely perjure themselves in the process.

Not really when you take into account that kavdawg loves lying
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 18, 2018, 09:39:26 AM
Memory is a fickle thing. But I'm pretty certain that Kavanaugh would remember it if it happened. And I'm also pretty certain that he'd lie under oath about it if he remembered it.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 18, 2018, 09:41:05 AM
He said he wasn't at that 0arty...but a. Date/location of the incident wasn't stated... Lol

Why do Republicans love sexual assault leaders?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: IPA4Me on September 18, 2018, 09:42:14 AM
This popped up today.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180918/4d4ef84014b513f01a49b493119e753b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 18, 2018, 11:09:06 AM
It's really great to know that a political system governing 300+ million people can be completely derailed by the frivolous 4 decade old allegations of a single psychopath and her hack political handler.

DEMOCRACY IN CRISIS --- L O rough ridin' L
I have so little sympathy for the GOP wrt supreme court nominees after the Garland episode.

You can't honestly be conflating refusing to vote down Garland with this disgusting 11th hour hatchet job.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 18, 2018, 11:10:33 AM
He said he wasn't at that 0arty...but a. Date/location of the incident wasn't stated... Lol

Why do Republicans love sexual assault leaders?

She doesn't remember when or where this horribly tragic event occurred. JFC
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 18, 2018, 11:11:13 AM
But I'm pretty certain that Kavanaugh would remember it if it happened.

If it was his normal behavior that he really didn't even think was wrong, he probably wouldn't remember this one specific incident.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 18, 2018, 11:13:34 AM
Please list all of Kavanaugh's lies too. Just so we can lol at how disgusting you are
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 18, 2018, 11:15:18 AM
But I'm pretty certain that Kavanaugh would remember it if it happened.

If it was his normal behavior that he really didn't even think was wrong, he probably wouldn't remember this one specific incident.

Completely unfounded statement. And applying the same standard, it appears that your tendencies are to falsely accuse people of rape.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 18, 2018, 11:21:21 AM
But I'm pretty certain that Kavanaugh would remember it if it happened.

If it was his normal behavior that he really didn't even think was wrong, he probably wouldn't remember this one specific incident.

Completely unfounded statement. And applying the same standard, it appears that your tendencies are to falsely accuse people of rape.

Your conclusion has nothing to do with my statement.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 18, 2018, 11:44:50 AM
It's exactly the same. You are gross.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2018, 12:01:10 PM
https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1042094293299560448
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 18, 2018, 12:35:00 PM
But I'm pretty certain that Kavanaugh would remember it if it happened.

If it was his normal behavior that he really didn't even think was wrong, he probably wouldn't remember this one specific incident.

I definitely assumed this would not be the case. Now that you mention it, though, an awful lot of these #metoo dudes do in fact turn out to be serial assaulters.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 18, 2018, 12:35:55 PM
They should probably try to get on the same page.

https://twitter.com/lpolgreen/status/1042098585318375424
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: DQ12 on September 18, 2018, 12:37:39 PM
It's really great to know that a political system governing 300+ million people can be completely derailed by the frivolous 4 decade old allegations of a single psychopath and her hack political handler.

DEMOCRACY IN CRISIS --- L O rough ridin' L
I have so little sympathy for the GOP wrt supreme court nominees after the Garland episode.

You can't honestly be conflating refusing to vote down Garland with this disgusting 11th hour hatchet job.
Whatever rules we all agreed to play by went out the window.  Welcome to the Wild West.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 18, 2018, 12:45:06 PM
Fsd must see the walls closing in... Super trigger in here lately. Sad to see.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 18, 2018, 12:58:12 PM
Agree with Dlew. I haven’t listened to any of the testimony, but I doubt there’s gonna be a clear answer about the alleged assault especially given issues with memory concerning events this remote. People are gonna believe whoever they want.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 18, 2018, 01:04:19 PM
They should probably try to get on the same page.

https://twitter.com/lpolgreen/status/1042098585318375424

Horseplay is how Sandusky described his rapes.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 18, 2018, 01:10:24 PM
I’m not concerned with how the GOP spins it because they’re not dealing with facts. Kav has the opportunity to respond directly and under oath.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2018, 01:15:06 PM
Agree with Dlew. I haven’t listened to any of the testimony, but I doubt there’s gonna be a clear answer about the alleged assault especially given issues with memory concerning events this remote. People are gonna believe whoever they want.

in his previous testimony he claimed he didn't remember anything that has happened in his entire legal career or recent adult life.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 18, 2018, 01:31:56 PM
Sounds like the type not to hold grudges.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 18, 2018, 01:45:01 PM
Memory is a fickle thing. But I'm pretty certain that Kavanaugh would remember it if it happened. And I'm also pretty certain that he'd lie under oath about it if he remembered it.

he appears to have been drunk from about age 15 to 35, so i wouldn't bet too much on him remembering anything.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
Memory is a fickle thing. But I'm pretty certain that Kavanaugh would remember it if it happened. And I'm also pretty certain that he'd lie under oath about it if he remembered it.

he appears to have been drunk from about age 15 to 35, so i wouldn't bet too much on him remembering anything.

I've also been drunk for that entire age range and I remember shitloads.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 18, 2018, 02:47:24 PM
there's plenty of reason to conclude he can't remember much and also plenty of evidence that he loves lying his ass off, so i guess we'll never know.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-lies-senate-testimony-supreme-court.html
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 18, 2018, 02:57:36 PM
This vote is going to happen even if it doesn't want to.  Just have to force it down and cover its mouth so it wont scream
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 18, 2018, 03:00:16 PM
I’ll admit not everyone is going to share this opinion, but IYAM you have a pretty weak case for perjury if it takes longer than two sentences to explain.

Now if he testifies under oath that he did not assault Ford, and you believe her accusations, I think you have no choice but to DQ him.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 18, 2018, 03:04:26 PM
I’ll admit not everyone is going to share this opinion, but IYAM you have a pretty weak case for perjury if it takes longer than two sentences to explain.

Now if he testifies under oath that he did not assault Ford, and you believe her accusations, I think you have no choice but to DQ him.

I think that if he refuses to testify at all and you believe her accusations, you have no choice but to DQ him. What kind of monster would vote to put somebody they believe to be a rapist on the supreme court bench?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 18, 2018, 03:06:38 PM
Well I mean, I could give you some reasons but your question makes it seem like you’re not actually interested.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 18, 2018, 03:17:51 PM
I’ll admit not everyone is going to share this opinion, but IYAM you have a pretty weak case for perjury if it takes longer than two sentences to explain.

he testified under oath that he didn't receive material stolen from a dem senator and documents from the time show that he did.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 18, 2018, 03:19:16 PM
That’s better. Just not what the article you linked said.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 18, 2018, 03:40:17 PM
That’s better. Just not what the article you linked said.

that is what the article said.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 18, 2018, 04:30:09 PM
That’s better. Just not what the article you linked said.

that is what the article said.

The article explicitly said he testified under oath that he did not receive “any documents that appeared to [him] to have been drafted or prepared by Democratic staff members of the Senate Judiciary Committee.”

The fact that he actually did receive documents drafted or prepared by Democratic staff members of the Senate Judiciary committee doesn't render that testimony false.

It's not even that fine of a point, to be honest.  If someone asked me if I have ever met someone who appeared to be a Democratic staff member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I can unequivocally say "no," even if it just so happens that my next door neighbor was a former staffer and I didn't realize it.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 18, 2018, 05:14:00 PM
If pussy panthers are trying to destroy this man, they to speak up in the light of day to voice their accusations or just shut up.  Ford''s attorney said she doesn't have to verify her accusations.  What? Is this because she is spEwing a false statement?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 18, 2018, 05:21:55 PM
That’s better. Just not what the article you linked said.

that is what the article said.

The article explicitly said he testified under oath that he did not receive “any documents that appeared to [him] to have been drafted or prepared by Democratic staff members of the Senate Judiciary Committee.”

The fact that he actually did receive documents drafted or prepared by Democratic staff members of the Senate Judiciary committee doesn't render that testimony false.

It's not even that fine of a point, to be honest.  If someone asked me if I have ever met someone who appeared to be a Democratic staff member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I can unequivocally say "no," even if it just so happens that my next door neighbor was a former staffer and I didn't realize it.

Crack legal advice from catastrophe is a welcome surprise to this thread
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 18, 2018, 06:18:11 PM
The article explicitly said he testified under oath that he did not receive “any documents that appeared to [him] to have been drafted or prepared by Democratic staff members of the Senate Judiciary Committee.”

The fact that he actually did receive documents drafted or prepared by Democratic staff members of the Senate Judiciary committee doesn't render that testimony false.

It's not even that fine of a point, to be honest.  If someone asked me if I have ever met someone who appeared to be a Democratic staff member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I can unequivocally say "no," even if it just so happens that my next door neighbor was a former staffer and I didn't realize it.

the article also explained why it is pretty obvious that he was lying, even though it might be difficult or impossible to convict him of perjury for his lies.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 18, 2018, 07:13:44 PM
Which brings us full circle to my point about making a perjury case.

FWIW, I also think the article is taking some liberties concerning the content of the docs at issue. It certainly isn’t apparent to me that they include parts of Dems’ analysis as opposed to opposition research, but I get that he may have been in a better position to understand that’s what was going on.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 18, 2018, 07:18:53 PM
a.  you asked for a tl:dnr summary.  of necessity that skirts detail.
b.  the discussion is with regard to whether people think he should be confirmed to be a sc justice, not whether he should be prosecuted for perjury.  i think most people just care if he's a lying liar who loves to tell lies, not if he's convictable.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 18, 2018, 07:44:17 PM
Still a mess.

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1042203651597639680
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 18, 2018, 08:59:37 PM
What exactly is the FBI going to investigate?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 18, 2018, 09:05:44 PM
What exactly is the FBI going to investigate?

CCTV stored on microfiche obviously
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 18, 2018, 09:34:35 PM
It's a background investigation
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 19, 2018, 12:55:09 AM
a.  you asked for a tl:dnr summary.  of necessity that skirts detail.
b.  the discussion is with regard to whether people think he should be confirmed to be a sc justice, not whether he should be prosecuted for perjury.  i think most people just care if he's a lying liar who loves to tell lies, not if he's convictable.

Taking a trip down memory lane

I’ll admit not everyone is going to share this opinion, but IYAM you have a pretty weak case for perjury if it takes longer than two sentences to explain.

he testified under oath that he didn't receive material stolen from a dem senator and documents from the time show that he did.

I did not ask for a tl;dr summary.  I was making a point that if your explanation for why this guy was lying under oath took longer than two sentences to explain ("tl"), then it's not a strong point.

Example: Subject testified under oath that he did not do X.  This video corroborated by eyewitness testimony shows that he did do X.

Agree with most of your second point, although the skeptic in me says most people who have expressed an opinion don't actually care whether he is lying or not.  They made up their mind as soon as they heard about the accusation.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 19, 2018, 07:22:09 AM
really good an interesting fight you guys are having itt  :flush:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 19, 2018, 07:29:25 AM
Good contribution.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 19, 2018, 08:15:34 AM
Just for the sake of counting all of the things this shady rough rider has clearly been lying about.

https://twitter.com/jakebackpack/status/1042396733345554432
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 19, 2018, 09:33:05 AM
Still a mess.

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1042203651597639680

Pfffft. She's a rough ridin' liar.

I think I read the FBI has already conducted 5 or 6 background checks on BK.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 19, 2018, 09:34:37 AM
One more couldn’t hurt
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 19, 2018, 10:03:08 AM
If she won't testify or is lying, I think we can go ahead and warm up the FBI investigation of her and Feinstein, maybe impeach that POS in the process. This may work out well for all Americans.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 19, 2018, 10:10:38 AM
I hate to agree with FSD but if she won't testify and wants some vague FBI investigation...sorry lady, we need to vote on this guy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 19, 2018, 10:14:22 AM
Just for the sake of counting all of the things this shady rough rider has clearly been lying about.

https://twitter.com/jakebackpack/status/1042396733345554432
I, for one, can't deal with the fact that Mr. Bacharach (douchey name) used the words soi-disant and prevarication in a single tweet.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 19, 2018, 10:20:00 AM
I mean who doesn't want to lie about sexual assault and get their name drug through the mud by every hard core trump maniac?

Sounds awesome.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: ChiComCat on September 19, 2018, 10:32:17 AM
Republicans only believe in holding up confirmation if there is a good reason to do so.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 19, 2018, 11:11:55 AM
I mean who doesn't want to lie about sexual assault and get their name drug through the mud by every hard core trump maniac?

Sounds awesome.

My understanding is that she initially insisted on remaining anonymous but came out publicly after it was apparent her name was going to get leaked by nosy reporters. So you could craft a coherent story that explains her behavior to this point even if she’s not telling the truth. Obviously going under oath and testifying would undercut that story.

Of course, it’s also reasonable to assume that a lawyer would not want their client testifying under oath about anything with less than a week of prep. Plus, assuming she doesn’t want Kav to get confirmed, she has every motivation to delay the proceedings as much as she can.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 19, 2018, 11:40:22 AM
Dems keep calling on the FBI  . . .   :lol:

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 19, 2018, 08:19:24 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 19, 2018, 08:40:32 PM
Ever since the recording of Trumps comments to Billy Bush about grabbing a kitty, wild eyed libbers have hated Trump greatly.  They thought this would cause him to lose tour their hero and icon Hillary.  She lost and now they are pissed at Trump.  So anybody pervert Trump nominates has to be a molesting perv also.  Professor Ford makes an accusations that Kavanaugh did horrible things to her even though sheI don't know where or when this occurred.  Now she is backing out of telling her deluded  story, and Kavanaugh likely will be confirmed.  Libbers last ditch effort fails, and lose again to Trump.  Hate goes nuclear.   People hopefully will she this bloodlust hate and elect all Republicans to Congress.  Spontaneous combustion.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 20, 2018, 06:35:09 AM
Another lie. (Plus Kavanaugh being creepy about female clerks.)

https://twitter.com/tomscocca/status/1042606730121756673
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 20, 2018, 07:59:50 AM
You realize that “lie” would DQ pretty much every judge in the country?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 09:20:31 AM
Just when you think the libtards haven't embarrassed themselves enough in this matter, here comes another ridiculous tweet
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 20, 2018, 12:11:48 PM
Seems like we really dodged a bullet since Hillary's husband was a sexed crazed pig. She must be one too.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 12:47:32 PM
Welp

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/20/649787076/kavanaugh-accuser-classmate-that-it-happened-or-not-i-have-no-idea
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 12:55:38 PM
Case closed
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 20, 2018, 01:16:05 PM
Resolved!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 20, 2018, 02:15:32 PM
Rush thinks the Demomandestoyers have a plan b or c they are going to throw out
I vote for ugly as dirt old hide former teacher accusing Kavanaugh when in first grade exposing his genitals to her under the ruse of not being able to zip his school uniform.
Plan c is abusing some gay lbgtewz guy or Kavanaughty making unwanted sexual suggestive advances towards a gay guy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2018, 02:19:39 PM
I don't know if the guy did anything bad or not.

But I appreciate that the LibBot Cult is utterly dismissive of any potential agenda.   It's so intellectually disingenuous but so typical . . .  It has all components:

 :lol:

 :dunno:

 :love:  at the amaze factor


Spartacus aka Corey Booker some years ago wrote an op/ed piece where he admitted having a whole make out session and by admission wanted to take it further with a girl who admitted to him some days later she was so drunk she didn't remember anything.   So by the current standard of what is known, we need to launch an FBI ( :lol:) investigation of Corey "I am Spartacus" Booker.

Joe "Captain Handsy" Biden should never be contemplated as a POTUS candidate ever again, by the standard that the left is trying to employ here.

But we all know when it comes to any left icons getting out-of-line with the opposite sex (or the same sex) the left immediately circles the wagons. 

But you guys, you do you while the rest of us  :jerk: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 02:28:40 PM
Kinda weird to jerk off over sexual assault dax, but I suppose you grew up in a different era
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: ChiComCat on September 20, 2018, 02:35:21 PM
You don't understand the difference between investigating Cory Booker vs Kavanaugh?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2018, 02:52:53 PM
I know the difference.

Doesn't change anything in regards to circling the wagons . . . which LibBots have down to a science.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 02:55:14 PM
Do you really know the difference though?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2018, 02:57:29 PM
Do you really know the difference though?

 :lol:  never stop LibBot7

I also know why it's not in the FBI's jurisdiction, but apparently most of LibBot Nation does not.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 03:03:48 PM
I'm honestly not convinced. Maybe dax can prove he knows the difference between the two situations. I imagine he'll just continue to daxflect and circle the wagons around another sexual abuser instead (remember how much he defended Roy moore?).
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2018, 03:09:00 PM
I'm honestly not convinced. Maybe dax can prove he knows the difference between the two situations. I imagine he'll just continue to daxflect and circle the wagons around another sexual abuser instead (remember how much he defended Roy moore?).

Oh please.   Elected officials are not vetted.

You're such a rough ridin' dork.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: ChiComCat on September 20, 2018, 03:12:32 PM
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/judiciary-staffer-investigating-blasey-ford-tweet-determined-to-confirm-kavanaugh.html

I know it's Slate but that doesn't change the facts of the article.  Republicans being stupid asses then blaming fake news and biased media is getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 03:15:11 PM
I'm honestly not convinced. Maybe dax can prove he knows the difference between the two situations. I imagine he'll just continue to daxflect and circle the wagons around another sexual abuser instead (remember how much he defended Roy moore?).

Oh please.   Elected officials are not vetted.

You're such a rough ridin' dork.

 :blush:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2018, 03:16:56 PM
I defended Roy Moore?

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Only in the sense of innocent until proven guilty.   But for LibBot nation that concept died a long time ago.

SMDH, sad

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 20, 2018, 03:17:28 PM
I'm honestly not convinced. Maybe dax can prove he knows the difference between the two situations. I imagine he'll just continue to daxflect and circle the wagons around another sexual abuser instead (remember how much he defended Roy moore?).

Oh please.   Elected officials are not vetted.

You're such a rough ridin' dork.

I'm sure he appreciates the answer because I'm pretty sure he was the one that didn't know the difference.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2018, 03:21:40 PM
I'm honestly not convinced. Maybe dax can prove he knows the difference between the two situations. I imagine he'll just continue to daxflect and circle the wagons around another sexual abuser instead (remember how much he defended Roy moore?).

Oh please.   Elected officials are not vetted.

You're such a rough ridin' dork.

I'm sure he appreciates the answer because I'm pretty sure he was the one that didn't know the difference.

Agreed
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 03:31:49 PM
Post the differences daxdax, educate the dumdum's like me.

Or just continue daxflect and daxfuscate.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2018, 03:32:22 PM
Post the differences daxdax, educate the dumdum's like me.

Or just continue daxflect and daxfuscate.

I've already posted the difference.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 20, 2018, 03:34:12 PM
Post the differences daxdax, educate the dumdum's like me.

Or just continue daxflect and daxfuscate.

I've already posted the difference.

 :lol: (ftp://:lol:)

Hey lib, why don't you?  :lol: (ftp://:lol:)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 03:37:53 PM
Did Booker hold his hand over the drunk girls mouth so people couldn't hear her screams while his buddy barred the door shut? That seems like an important difference that you hadn't mentioned.  I haven't read the Booker thing tho so maybe Booker did do that and libs just don't care which would be pretty disgusting.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 03:40:09 PM
Post the differences daxdax, educate the dumdum's like me.

Or just continue daxflect and daxfuscate.

I've already posted the difference.

Daxflection and daxfuscation it is...
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 20, 2018, 03:41:42 PM
FBI already conducted a background check on Kav.  Seems like local law enforcement should be investigating the assault.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2018, 03:45:37 PM
Did Booker hold his hand over the drunk girls mouth so people couldn't hear her screams while his buddy barred the door shut? That seems like an important difference that you hadn't mentioned.  I haven't read the Booker thing tho so maybe Booker did do that and libs just don't care which would be pretty disgusting.

Okay, well, you're describing acts as proclaimed by one potential perpetrator in one case, and by one accuser in another.   

But I'm talking in terms of the differences in our political process.

Crimes, even felony convictions have no legal impact (albeit I'd have to look up something like Treason) as to whether someone can hold a seat in Congress.   Whereas even the hint of impropriety can prevent someone from obtaining/being confirmed to an appointed position because background checks and confirmation hearings are in play.







Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 03:52:51 PM
So you're mad that credible sexual abuse allegations may derail a scotus nomination because it's totally unfair when known serial sexual abuser Don trump can be elected president?  Yikes

Personally I'd direct that anger at the people who vote for serial sexual abusers like Don trump instead of the confirmation process.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 20, 2018, 04:13:44 PM
JFC

https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1042883079034097664
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 04:15:17 PM
It's just so unfair  :frown:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 20, 2018, 04:17:37 PM
Can’t even spell out breaking anymore...sad
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2018, 04:20:01 PM
So you're mad that credible sexual abuse allegations may derail a scotus nomination because it's totally unfair when known serial sexual abuser Don trump can be elected president?  Yikes

Personally I'd direct that anger at the people who vote for serial sexual abusers like Don trump instead of the confirmation process.

Well, that's  :lol:  coming from a guy in a party that made a sexual predator and his facilitating wife pillars of the movement.  Too the point they nearly put the facilitating wife and the sexual predator BACK in the White House. 

Not mad about the process either.   I'm more  :lol:  at LibBots such as yourself who completely dismiss the politics of this . . . which is typical.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 20, 2018, 04:25:05 PM
So you're mad that credible sexual abuse allegations may derail a scotus nomination because it's totally unfair when known serial sexual abuser Don trump can be elected president?  Yikes

Personally I'd direct that anger at the people who vote for serial sexual abusers like Don trump instead of the confirmation process.

What about the allegations makes them credible?  Or do you just mean not discredited?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 04:32:39 PM
The therapist's notes lead me to believe that something happened to Ford with someone from her school. The only point of contention to me is if you think she's just lying that it was kavdawg. I see no reason why she would lie about it. It's not "beyond reasonable doubt" (and doesn't need to be), but credible imo
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 20, 2018, 04:56:59 PM
I forgot there was a lie detector test as well.  That certainly helps.

Sure the two most likely scenarios are that either she is lying or Kav is.  It is also possible that the event was real and she did not clearly identify the assailants when it happened but over time came to believe it was Kav and his bud either because she started seeing his name on FB or in the news (he's been on the second highest court since 2006).  Especially for people in therapy, there is a very real possibility of someone "recalling" an event from the distant past and being convinced of it even if it never happened.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 20, 2018, 05:03:59 PM
Way too super long to read all the way through, but this link contains some interesting stuff about false memories and potential link to PTSD: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5665161/
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 05:11:08 PM
Politically, dumping kavdawg and motivating the kdub wing of the maga horde out to vote in the midterms to save the replacement nomination is probably the best play. It's really weird how dug in they are for someone who's views are easily found in other candidates without the lying and sexual abuse. Of course they did this with trump too, so maybe those are just positive attributes to magapublicans
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 05:21:08 PM
I hope everyone would agree that the government shouldn't shut down its business everytime some person makes vague accusations of a 35-year old assault and conditions her testimony on an fbi investigation.

I mean, we all agree that's an utterly absurd proposition, right?

 Like, why in the hell would the fbi investigate a state crime in the first place, let alone need to conduct and complete an investigation before the testimony is given?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 20, 2018, 05:23:05 PM
The therapist's notes lead me to believe that something happened to Ford with someone from her school. The only point of contention to me is if you think she's just lying that it was kavdawg. I see no reason why she would lie about it. It's not "beyond reasonable doubt" (and doesn't need to be), but credible imo

The therapist’s notes and her story don’t even line up, which she says is an error on her therapists part. I think it’s fair game for her to testify and have that be part of the consideration but if she won’t testify then it’s time to move on.

Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 20, 2018, 05:23:56 PM
I mean, I’d be pretty upset if they just pulled the nomination.

If Kav is telling the truth, it would be pretty shitty to have this accusation hanging over his head (he’d still be a pretty big time judge) without some kind of resolution.

If Ford is telling the truth, it would be pretty shitty to act like an attempted rape doesn’t matter anymore because he won’t be a SCOTUS Justice.

Either way I feel like we’re at a point where a resolution is warranted. I don’t fault Republicans for seeking a short timeframe given that Ford refused to go public until near the very end of the process and (AFAIK) did not even anonymously make similar allegations during his confirmation to the Nation’s second highest court.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 05:25:45 PM
So you're mad that credible sexual abuse allegations may derail a scotus nomination because it's totally unfair when known serial sexual abuser Don trump can be elected president?  Yikes

Personally I'd direct that anger at the people who vote for serial sexual abusers like Don trump instead of the confirmation process.

Guilty until proven innocent. The neo-fascist libtard mantra.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 05:31:04 PM
I mean, I’d be pretty upset if they just pulled the nomination.

If Kav is telling the truth, it would be pretty shitty to have this accusation hanging over his head (he’d still be a pretty big time judge) without some kind of resolution.

If Ford is telling the truth, it would be pretty shitty to act like an attempted rape doesn’t matter anymore because he won’t be a SCOTUS Justice.

Either way I feel like we’re at a point where a resolution is warranted. I don’t fault Republicans for seeking a short timeframe given that Ford refused to go public until near the very end of the process and (AFAIK) did not even anonymously make similar allegations during his confirmation to the Nation’s second highest court.

There's literally nothing that corroborates this hatchet job story, and she's too chickenshit to testify. I'd say the demotards overplayed their hand (9 of clubs high) and are now looking at civil or even criminal liability for bringing this lunatic into the fold.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 05:31:58 PM
I'm certain that fsd would defend Bill Clinton's innocence as well.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 05:32:35 PM
The therapist's notes lead me to believe that something happened to Ford with someone from her school. The only point of contention to me is if you think she's just lying that it was kavdawg. I see no reason why she would lie about it. It's not "beyond reasonable doubt" (and doesn't need to be), but credible imo

The therapist’s notes and her story don’t even line up, which she says is an error on her therapists part. I think it’s fair game for her to testify and have that be part of the consideration but if she won’t testify then it’s time to move on.

That's fine with me
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 05:33:07 PM
She deserves to be believed is not evidence, psychopaths. It's a battle cry.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 05:35:59 PM
I'm certain that fsd would defend Bill Clinton's innocence as well.

You are a rapist and I deserve to be believed, plus you're on a bbs with katdaddy, so clearly you're a rapist.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 05:38:19 PM
I don't know if the guy did anything bad or not.

But I appreciate that the LibBot Cult is utterly dismissive of any potential agenda.   It's so intellectually disingenuous but so typical . . .  It has all components:

 :lol:

 :dunno:

 :love:  at the amaze factor


Spartacus aka Corey Booker some years ago wrote an op/ed piece where he admitted having a whole make out session and by admission wanted to take it further with a girl who admitted to him some days later she was so drunk she didn't remember anything.   So by the current standard of what is known, we need to launch an FBI ( :lol:) investigation of Corey "I am Spartacus" Booker.

Joe "Captain Handsy" Biden should never be contemplated as a POTUS candidate ever again, by the standard that the left is trying to employ here.

But we all know when it comes to any left icons getting out-of-line with the opposite sex (or the same sex) the left immediately circles the wagons. 

But you guys, you do you while the rest of us  :jerk: :rolleyes:

We all know the rules don't apply to them. Unending hypocrisy and lying is their mission statement
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 05:41:22 PM
Also this narrative of "the fbi doesn't even investigate that stuff!" is pretty lol. The fbi conducted a background investigation of the Anita Hill allegations, it took 3 days. I think the country can wait a few days to hopefully get a clearer picture.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 05:50:01 PM
The FBI does not investigate state crimes. Sorry you don't have 7th grade understanding of civics.

And what would they investigate? People who attended a party that the accuser doesn't know when or where it was. Forensic evidence of an "attempted" rape?

You're so stupid and naive.  I will commend you for stepping out and taking an actual position (even though it's really dumb and transparent and something you'dexpect from a child).
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 05:53:31 PM
FBI:  Where were you on a night in Maryland 35 years ago?

Potential witness:  :confused:

FBI: [texts person they are having extramarital affair with] I rough ridin' hate BK and hope he dies and will do anything to stop him from being confirmed

Potential Witness: who are you texting?

FBI: it's classified
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2018, 05:59:29 PM
I don't think anyone is asking for a criminal investigation, perhaps that's where you're confused. Of course you're the same person that very passionately argued that the fbi trying to flip people is Hollywood fiction.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 20, 2018, 06:00:21 PM
I don’t remember chum finding this much dirt in gorsuch, I’m kind of concerned.

https://twitter.com/adamlongoTV/status/1041824406958428161

https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1042890512435474432
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
I don't think anyone is asking for a criminal investigation, perhaps that's where you're confused. Of course you're the same person that very passionately argued that the fbi trying to flip people is Hollywood fiction.

Oh, you want federal law enforcement to conduct a "regular" investigation, my mistake
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 06:03:31 PM
Is this the most pathetic display the libtards have ever put on?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 20, 2018, 06:06:15 PM
Of course you're the same person that very passionately argued that the fbi trying to flip people is Hollywood fiction.

It was right around this time that I decided FSD is not worth responding to.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 06:16:05 PM
Keep the tweets coming chum1!!!

Surely someone will say BK smoked a cigarette in high school!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2018, 06:29:14 PM
Tweet: Anonymous and extremely credible source indicates BK may have said "butthole" in 5th grade
#stopkavanaugh
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 20, 2018, 08:42:54 PM
Talk about passion for politics.... willing to publicly wreck their lives to lie about sexual assault.....and have the wherewithal to tell her therapist about it in 2012 to backstop the story.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 20, 2018, 08:48:24 PM
Talk about passion for politics.... willing to publicly wreck their lives to lie about sexual assault.....and have the wherewithal to tell her therapist about it in 2012 to backstop the story.


And yet refuses to testify
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 20, 2018, 08:53:33 PM
Talk about passion for politics.... willing to publicly wreck their lives to lie about sexual assault.....and have the wherewithal to tell her therapist about it in 2012 to backstop the story.


And yet refuses to testify

Yeah she went this far, keep going lady...your name is already trashed at this point....might as well be a martyr for your liberal gods!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 20, 2018, 09:48:25 PM
Keep the tweets coming chum1!!!

Surely someone will say BK smoked a cigarette in high school!

No crap.  This is what is hilarious to me.  OMG, a kid got drunk in HS!!!   And he tried to rape her!!!  Oh wait.... it wasn't really rape because she doesn't remember 95% of it.  God forbid if she was spurned or a nut case.  Oh and the dopes on this site that defend her?  Can we pull up the crap that 99.9% of these people have said to make them worthy of defending her???    99.9% of us could be accused of something we didn't do back in the day which is spooky to me.  Let her tell her story, fine but the fact that you guys think this is worthy of something when it was in H.S. and it wasn't rape frightens me.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on September 20, 2018, 09:59:59 PM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 20, 2018, 10:40:04 PM
Quote
But then,” the former student continued, “you’re getting all these 14-, 15-, 16-year-olds, 17-year-old kids doing whatever the eff they wanted to do, with no repercussions. Drugs everywhere. Partying everywhere. Drinking — just whatever we wanted to do. It was unbelievable, off the rails. And that’s just how it was.

Sexual misconduct, the former student says, was routine, shrugged off. “My friend, who went to one of the private girls’ schools, said she woke up with a guy on top of her,” the former student said. “And this was not a situation where people would talk about it. They would just say: ‘Oh, well, how’d you do? How was your weekend?’ ‘Oh, well, I got attacked.’ And that was just normal then

just doesn't fit with ford's account.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 20, 2018, 10:46:33 PM
Talk about passion for politics.... willing to publicly wreck their lives to lie about sexual assault.....and have the wherewithal to tell her therapist about it in 2012 to backstop the story.


And yet refuses to testify

ford is not refusing to testify.  her request that the fbi investigate first is perfectly rational and fair. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 20, 2018, 10:47:34 PM
lol @ this whelan dude, btw.  what a rough ridin' idiot.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 20, 2018, 10:50:20 PM
You realize that “lie” would DQ pretty much every judge in the country?

why would pretty much every other judge in the country lie about knowing of koz's sexual harassment if it's common knowledge?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 20, 2018, 10:53:41 PM
FBI already conducted a background check on Kav.

it's very odd that you conceive of a background check as having a finite end.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 21, 2018, 12:28:32 AM
Quote
But then,” the former student continued, “you’re getting all these 14-, 15-, 16-year-olds, 17-year-old kids doing whatever the eff they wanted to do, with no repercussions. Drugs everywhere. Partying everywhere. Drinking — just whatever we wanted to do. It was unbelievable, off the rails. And that’s just how it was.

Sexual misconduct, the former student says, was routine, shrugged off. “My friend, who went to one of the private girls’ schools, said she woke up with a guy on top of her,” the former student said. “And this was not a situation where people would talk about it. They would just say: ‘Oh, well, how’d you do? How was your weekend?’ ‘Oh, well, I got attacked.’ And that was just normal then

just doesn't fit 00with ford's account.

Everyone was raping everyone back then, so surely he did it, even though nobody knows when or where and it was just that one time

Get mumped, you idiot
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 21, 2018, 12:31:38 AM
Talk about passion for politics.... willing to publicly wreck their lives to lie about sexual assault.....and have the wherewithal to tell her therapist about it in 2012 to backstop the story.


And yet refuses to testify

Setting aside that this "credible" person is in therapy, her therapist's notes don't actually corroborate her story, which in non bizarro world would actually be a problem
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 21, 2018, 12:35:31 AM
I cannot believe that people support the idea that every unfounded accusation should halt the government pending an fbi investigation.

That's just rough ridin' insane--utterly unworkable, and you weirdos are so goddamn blinded by trump hate and corrupted by partisan politics that you don't see it.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 12:40:58 AM
Everyone was raping everyone back then

not everyone.  just the students at georgetown prep, save gorsuch who everyone derided as some sort of hemophiliac nerd, according to, ahem - concurrent students at gtown prep and women who interacted with them then.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 06:29:36 AM
You realize that “lie” would DQ pretty much every judge in the country?

why would pretty much every other judge in the country lie about knowing of koz's sexual harassment if it's common knowledge?

They don’t have to lie. If you assume everyone knew it was going on, then when asked about it, there are only two outcomes: (1) they deny it, making them liars; or (2) they “admit” it, making them accomplices.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 06:35:18 AM
FBI already conducted a background check on Kav.

it's very odd that you conceive of a background check as having a finite end.

Why is that odd? Pretty much everything has a finite end. And even if you don’t believe that, I think we can all agree that the FBI has finite resources.

FWIW my understanding is that they did add the allegation to Kav’s file once they were made aware of it.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 06:37:38 AM
Talk about passion for politics.... willing to publicly wreck their lives to lie about sexual assault.....and have the wherewithal to tell her therapist about it in 2012 to backstop the story.


And yet refuses to testify

ford is not refusing to testify.  her request that the fbi investigate first is perfectly rational and fair.

Would have been more rational to make the request when the FBI was beginning it’s work. Either in July or even 2006 when he was being confirmed.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 06:46:05 AM
Also, if I knew my story was true, I’d be calling for the investigation but I’d also want to MAKE Kav testify under oath in response before that investigation concludes.

It’s a lot easier to manipulate your testimony when you know the universe of information (and hence which lies you cannot get caught in).
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 21, 2018, 08:37:26 AM
Everyone was raping everyone back then

not everyone.  just the students at georgetown prep, save gorsuch who everyone derided as some sort of hemophiliac nerd, according to, ahem - concurrent students at gtown prep and women who interacted with them then.

Like this lady or the 60+ other women that support BK? This mob mentality thing the left has going needs to be stopped, and the Dems are 100% culpable.

Welp

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/20/649787076/kavanaugh-accuser-classmate-that-it-happened-or-not-i-have-no-idea
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 21, 2018, 08:38:26 AM
Also, if I knew my story was true, I’d be calling for the investigation but I’d also want to MAKE Kav testify under oath in response before that investigation concludes.

It’s a lot easier to manipulate your testimony when you know the universe of information (and hence which lies you cannot get caught in).

Her story isn't true. She's a crazy person that sees a shrink for god's sake.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 21, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
lol @ this whelan dude, btw.  what a rough ridin' idiot.

https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1043135213612814339
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 21, 2018, 11:58:26 AM
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Where, as here, a sexual assault has been alleged against an individual nominated for a lifetime appointment in a position of public trust, a partisan hearing alone cannot be the forum to determine the truth of the matter. Allegations of sexual assault require a neutral factfinder and an investigation that can ascertain facts fairly.  Those at the FBI or others tasked with such an investigation must have adequate time to investigate facts. Fair process requires evidence from all parties with direct knowledge and consultation of experts when evaluating such evidence.

https://twitter.com/akapczynski/status/1043159448057987072
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 21, 2018, 12:22:15 PM
Desperation is a stinky cologne.

Now scorned by the FBI, who refused to investigate a 35yr old crime that allegedly occured somehlwhere sometime, the libtards reach into academia who not so subtley conditions their outrage on a fictional "partisan panel".  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 21, 2018, 12:34:35 PM
Not response worthy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 21, 2018, 01:12:32 PM
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/407769-dershowitz-kavanaugh-accusers-request-is-anti-american  (https://thehill.com/homenews/media/407769-dershowitz-kavanaugh-accusers-request-is-anti-american)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 01:37:47 PM
Neutral fact finder? They’re calling for Kav to be put on trial?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 01:40:21 PM
They don’t have to lie. If you assume everyone knew it was going on, then when asked about it, there are only two outcomes: (1) they deny it, making them liars; or (2) they “admit” it, making them accomplices.

admitting it doesn't make them accomplices.  lying about it does make them liars.  it's pretty stupid to lie about something that is common knowledge.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 01:42:25 PM
Why is that odd? Pretty much everything has a finite end. And even if you don’t believe that, I think we can all agree that the FBI has finite resources.

FWIW my understanding is that they did add the allegation to Kav’s file once they were made aware of it.

"yes, it does appear that the nominee went on a killing rampage last night, but i'm afraid the background check is done.  we've already sent in the paperwork and everything."
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 01:43:46 PM
Would have been more rational to make the request when the FBI was beginning it’s work. Either in July or even 2006 when he was being confirmed.

she didn't get her accusation off before the buzzer.  tough luck for her, but you can't have a sport without rules.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 01:47:11 PM
Also, if I knew my story was true, I’d be calling for the investigation but I’d also want to MAKE Kav testify under oath in response before that investigation concludes.

It’s a lot easier to manipulate your testimony when you know the universe of information (and hence which lies you cannot get caught in).

if i knew my story was true, i'd want the fbi to interview all of the people that were present at the event, and i'd want want them to do it before anyone released public testimony that might influence their memories.

coincidentally, that's also what i'd want if i was an impartial observer trying to follow best practices in order to find out what happened.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 21, 2018, 01:48:12 PM
it was a savvy move by the Democrats but I think Kavanaugh will cross the goal line soon.  Should make trump think harder next time.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 01:53:47 PM
not everyone.  just the students at georgetown prep, save gorsuch who everyone derided as some sort of hemophiliac nerd, according to, ahem - concurrent students at gtown prep and women who interacted with them then.

Like this lady.

yes, pretty much exactly like that woman, who heard the allegation and thought - that sounds exactly like what i recall happening, therefore i believe it did happen and then rethought and realized she didn't have firsthand knowledge that it happened and shouldn't state that it did happen, but still thinks it probably happened because it was completely in character with her memories of the time.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 02:13:07 PM
Lots of murders in Chicago. That’s why whenever I hear someone accused of murder in Chicago I think, yep that seems consistent with my expectations.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 02:22:02 PM
Lots of murders in Chicago. That’s why whenever I hear someone accused of murder in Chicago I think, yep that seems consistent with my expectations.

firsthand accounts from gtown prep students and people that associated with them is pretty different from citywide reputation for violent crime, 'ophe.  i mean, kavanough's friend who was allegedly present during the assault wrote an entire rough ridin' book detailing his prep school debauchery.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 03:03:55 PM
If you think my argument was based on the credibility of the reputation of the culture, you missed the point.
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 03:05:45 PM
They don’t have to lie. If you assume everyone knew it was going on, then when asked about it, there are only two outcomes: (1) they deny it, making them liars; or (2) they “admit” it, making them accomplices.

admitting it doesn't make them accomplices.  lying about it does make them liars.  it's pretty stupid to lie about something that is common knowledge.

Would you support confirmation of a judge who knew that dude was sexually harassing people but didn’t do anything about it like report the behavior? I wouldn’t. “Everyone else knew” is a pretty lame defense when you’re talking about the dignity or even safety of individuals.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 21, 2018, 03:07:04 PM
More shady question answering.

https://twitter.com/BySteveReilly/status/1042899930174709760
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
Why is that odd? Pretty much everything has a finite end. And even if you don’t believe that, I think we can all agree that the FBI has finite resources.

FWIW my understanding is that they did add the allegation to Kav’s file once they were made aware of it.

"yes, it does appear that the nominee went on a killing rampage last night, but i'm afraid the background check is done.  we've already sent in the paperwork and everything."

Give me a second while I head over to the new goalpost location.

...if you believe this is an issue about investigating a 30+ year old crime, it seems that local authorities are in a much better position to do that.

And, again, they DID add the new allegations to the file.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 21, 2018, 03:09:56 PM
Just thinking back to that time Kavvy said he spent $200,000 on "baseball tickets."  ;)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 21, 2018, 03:16:36 PM
I was buddies with a g'town prep grad when I lived out east.  He was a total stud.  Loved that guy
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 03:17:05 PM
Would have been more rational to make the request when the FBI was beginning it’s work. Either in July or even 2006 when he was being confirmed.

she didn't get her accusation off before the buzzer.  tough luck for her, but you can't have a sport without rules.

We’re talking about rational behavior for a sexual assault victim. Timing of the accusation is not definitive but it’s clearly a relevant factor to consider when we’re evaluating the credibility of the accusation.

Or while some of us do at least. It’s pretty clear you’ve already made up your mind.

This is probably one of the most critical aspects of the #metoo movement. Women should feel empowered to bring their accusations sooner when there is an infinitely more likely possibility of backing it up with credible evidence.

Right now we have people struggling to remember if they actually recall certain events happening or if they just “seem like they could have.” There is also a serious concern of false memories that can be self reinforcing over time making it impossible for the victim to believe there was any other possibility of how the events transpired. It’s a crappy situation for everyone that I hope will happen less and less with victims feeling comfortable immediately reporting potential crimes.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 21, 2018, 03:37:28 PM
Blame the victim for not speaking up sooner because 35 years later the metoo movement is happening. Amazing
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 03:40:57 PM
Who’s blaming the victim?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 21, 2018, 03:42:36 PM
Always appreciate how LibBot7Dork just flat refuses to even consider that this might just be about politics.

A real free thinker.


Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 21, 2018, 03:43:19 PM
They don’t have to lie. If you assume everyone knew it was going on, then when asked about it, there are only two outcomes: (1) they deny it, making them liars; or (2) they “admit” it, making them accomplices.

admitting it doesn't make them accomplices.  lying about it does make them liars.  it's pretty stupid to lie about something that is common knowledge.

Would you support confirmation of a judge who knew that dude was sexually harassing people but didn’t do anything about it like report the behavior? I wouldn’t. “Everyone else knew” is a pretty lame defense when you’re talking about the dignity or even safety of individuals.

Do you not support confirmation of Kavanaugh?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 03:47:05 PM
Reserving judgment depending on the testimony of Kav and Ford concerning her accusation (and obviously if any corroborating witnesses come forward).

I do not believe Kav knew about the Kozinski stuff.  If there's some evidence that he actually knew, I'd probably not support his confirmation.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 21, 2018, 04:01:54 PM
More shady question answering.

https://twitter.com/BySteveReilly/status/1042899930174709760

That disclosure is so cringeworthy on multiple levels
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 04:06:23 PM
If you think my argument was based on the credibility of the reputation of the culture, you missed the point.

if you're talking about your chicago point, my response was pointing out how inane it was to compare drawing conclusions re. the likelihood of an event occurring based on an event likelihood being 0.00004 in one city or 0.00008 in another city vs drawing that conclusion based on multiple members of a very small group saying "we all (except uber-nerd gorsuch) did this all the time."
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 04:12:03 PM
Give me a second while I head over to the new goalpost location.

...if you believe this is an issue about investigating a 30+ year old crime, it seems that local authorities are in a much better position to do that.

And, again, they DID add the new allegations to the file.

i don't, as no one does, thinks this is about investigating a decades old state crime.  it is about evaluating the character of a nominee for a federal appointment.


since they DID add the new allegations to the file, it is obvious that the investigation is not completed and there is no impediment for them to further investigate allegations.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 04:17:43 PM
Would you support confirmation of a judge who knew that dude was sexually harassing people but didn’t do anything about it like report the behavior?

if i otherwise approved of that judge, probably (if the facts were the same as what is currently known re. kav and koz, yes).  if the allegations were more egregious and/or the person was engaged in encouraging or abetting and not merely knowing of, then maybe no.


“Everyone else knew” is a pretty lame defense when you’re talking about the dignity or even safety of individuals.

you're the one who suggested that almost all lawyers would first keep silent and then lie about having known of it.  i have a little higher opinion of lawyers than you, it seems.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 04:22:22 PM
This is probably one of the most critical aspects of the #metoo movement. Women should feel empowered to bring their accusations sooner when there is an infinitely more likely possibility of backing it up with credible evidence.

Right now we have people struggling to remember if they actually recall certain events happening or if they just “seem like they could have.” There is also a serious concern of false memories that can be self reinforcing over time making it impossible for the victim to believe there was any other possibility of how the events transpired. It’s a crappy situation for everyone that I hope will happen less and less with victims feeling comfortable immediately reporting potential crimes.

what a moving and totally rational passage here, where you simultaneously decry the insidious societal forces that lead to women not coming forward immediately with accusations of sexual misconduct and also dismiss a woman's accusations of sexual misconduct because she did not immediately come forward.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 04:23:53 PM
I do not believe Kav knew about the Kozinski stuff.  If there's some evidence that he actually knew, I'd probably not support his confirmation.

you literally posted that everyone knew about it like two pages back.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 04:26:51 PM
Reserving judgment depending on the testimony of Kav and Ford concerning her accusation (and obviously if any corroborating witnesses come forward).

while simultaneously arguing that witnesses should not be interviewed by the fbi to determine if they offer accounts that corroborate or exculpate.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 21, 2018, 04:54:04 PM
Trumpublicans are just so gross

https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1043212952881520640
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
This is starting to get unwieldly, which I think has contributed to you misreading several of my points.  So to clarify:

1. I did not say that everyone knew about Koz.  My response that it would DQ every judge was if you start with the assumption that everyone knew.  I completely disagree with that assumption.

2. I have not said anything dismissing the accusations of Ford.  I hope she testifies under oath in her own words.

3. I am not arguing the FBI should not investigate the accusations.  I do believe that at this point it is completely within their discretion, though, given the stage of the proceedings.  If every citizen had a vote, I'd vote for an investigation if it could be done in a reasonable time frame.  But I would not support continual one-off requests for investigation into all kinds of other things.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 21, 2018, 05:02:31 PM
I am Catastrophe

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 05:13:06 PM
1. I did not say that everyone knew about Koz.  My response that it would DQ every judge was if you start with the assumption that everyone knew.  I completely disagree with that assumption.

no one made that assumption, which is probably why no one here understood your assertion based on the false assumption that people were making that assumption.


2. I have not said anything dismissing the accusations of Ford.  I hope she testifies under oath in her own words.

right, but for some reason you are arguing against having the fbi interview the people that may be able to corroborate or falsify her account.  that is not consistent with a good faith effort to uncover the truth of her allegations.  you are de facto insisting that the only result you will accept is a he said, she said standoff.


3.I do believe that at this point it is completely within their discretion, though, given the stage of the proceedings. 

apparently, based both on reporting and the fact that they aren't now conducting that investigation, someone has to ask them to do it.  if someone had asked them to do so early this week, it'd be completed by now.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Kat Kid on September 21, 2018, 05:22:43 PM
I distinctly remember the shame heaped upon Sotomayor for being a "spender not a saver" at the time was pretty loud.

I haven't heard any paternalistic finger wagging from Mankiw on Kavanaugh this time around and Kavanaugh's finances have been completely glossed over and I haven't seen a single reasonable answer for any of the weird stuff brought up including his $200K baseball ticket debt.

http://time.com/money/2792602/sonia-sotomayor-a-spender-not-a-saver/ (http://time.com/money/2792602/sonia-sotomayor-a-spender-not-a-saver/)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 21, 2018, 05:24:53 PM
The left is pointing to the Bush administration's 3-day investigation as a model. Lol at the assertion that the left wouldn't attack and discredit a 3-day investigation that doesn't end up DQ'ing Kav.

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 05:28:25 PM
I distinctly remember the shame heaped upon Sotomayor for being a "spender not a saver" at the time was pretty loud.

I haven't heard any paternalistic finger wagging from Mankiw on Kavanaugh this time around.

i am happy to judge both sotomayor and kavanaugh as spendthrifts.  it is appalling and in a just world they would be cast aside for better, more frugal persons.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 05:30:22 PM
The left is pointing to the Bush administration's 3-day investigation as a model. Lol at the assertion that the left wouldn't attack and discredit a 3-day investigation that doesn't end up DQ'ing Kav.

there isn't much to investigate.  interview the named witnesses, maybe interview a few classmates if ford can recall telling anyone.  there's no reason it would take more than a couple days.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 21, 2018, 05:33:36 PM
And if/when nothing comes of it, the left will just totally accept the job done by Trump's FBI?

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 21, 2018, 05:45:55 PM
And if/when nothing comes of it, the left will just totally accept the job done by Trump's FBI?

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The left would be wrong not to.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 05:52:41 PM
And if/when nothing comes of it, the left will just totally accept the job done by Trump's FBI?

i think most of them would.  i'm sure there might be some voices that diverge, but i'm reasonably confident the mainstream left would not blame the fbi of shoddy work or accuse the fbi of having been directed to a political result.

that's not to say they would suddenly support kavanaugh - they opposed him based on his positions beforehand, and logically would continue to do so.

and if the investigation returned nothing to substantially corroborate or exculpate, it is likely that those on the left who currently feel that the unsubstantiated allegation is sufficient to cause prudent senators to vote against him would continue to feel that way.  that too, would be logical - an investigation that does not provide new information would not lead persons to change their pre-investigation opinions.



we should definitely let the fbi investigate and find out, however.  if it does turn out that a bunch of liberals attack the investigation, i'll happily join you in making fun of them.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Kat Kid on September 21, 2018, 05:57:05 PM
I distinctly remember the shame heaped upon Sotomayor for being a "spender not a saver" at the time was pretty loud.

I haven't heard any paternalistic finger wagging from Mankiw on Kavanaugh this time around.

i am happy to judge both sotomayor and kavanaugh as spendthrifts.  it is appalling and in a just world they would be cast aside for better, more frugal persons.

you are just jealous that they are essentially unfireable, have a very decent salary and a very generous set of benefits/pension.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 06:01:10 PM
you are just jealous that they are essentially unfireable, have a very decent salary and a very generous set of benefits/pension.

how are they going to retire early and escape the governo-corporate breeder rat race without savings, kat kid?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 21, 2018, 06:02:14 PM
you are just jealous that they are essentially unfireable, have a very decent salary and a very generous set of benefits/pension.

how are they going to retire early and escape the governo-corporate breeder rat race without savings, kat kid?

Private loans that don’t get repaid
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 06:04:07 PM
And if/when nothing comes of it, the left will just totally accept the job done by Trump's FBI?

also, i have to say, "we're not going to conduct a fair and impartial investigation into the merits because they other side would never accept the results." is not a very good position.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 06:07:16 PM
Private loans that don’t get repaid

if kavanaugh bilks some anti-abortion lunatic billionaires of millions and absconds to ecuador after a year or two on the supreme court, my respect for him will increase immeasurably.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 21, 2018, 06:12:51 PM
Private loans that don’t get repaid

if kavanaugh bilks some anti-abortion lunatic billionaires of millions and absconds to ecuador after a year or two on the supreme court, my respect for him will increase immeasurably.

Wife’s 401K = $1,000    Credit Card Debt: 25K :lol:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 06:51:57 PM
And if/when nothing comes of it, the left will just totally accept the job done by Trump's FBI?

also, i have to say, "we're not going to conduct a fair and impartial investigation into the merits because they other side would never accept the results." is not a very good position.

Do you fault Feinstein for sitting on the information while the investigation was ongoing?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 07:12:45 PM
Do you fault Feinstein for sitting on the information while the investigation was ongoing?

if i accept feinstein's account at face value - that ford wished to remain anonymous, then no, she would have had no right to force ford into the spotlight.  if i assume that she is lying for some reason, then it's probably not a very good reason and she probably behaved poorly.  i don't have any factual basis for choosing between those possibilities although i don't intuitively think it advantages the democrats to delay - i think it would have been advantageous for democrats to have introduced the allegation earlier.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 07:24:22 PM
So you’re not aware that she shared the accusations with the FBI when Ford Still said she wanted to remain anonymous?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 07:29:21 PM
So you’re not aware that she shared the accusations with the FBI when Ford Still said she wanted to remain anonymous?

my understanding, and i admit i haven't paid a ton of attention to the feinstein details, is that she forwarded the letter she had re. ford to the fbi after it came to light elsewhere and ford then agreed to be exposed (after being exposed was going to happen regardless).
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 07:31:34 PM
i guess you could suspect that feinstein, or someone in her office, leaked the letter to force ford out, but i'm not aware of any reason to suspect that.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Kat Kid on September 21, 2018, 07:36:09 PM
If you are a Federal Judge, you basically have a lifetime pension and very good benefits. You won't get "rich" but you can absolutely leverage your government guaranteed annuity for some immediate cash. I certainly won't judge you for it.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Kat Kid on September 21, 2018, 07:39:04 PM
its like, they already have the retired lifestyle and they are guaranteed their benefits, why not party now? You don't know if your lifetime of sitting on a bench will catch up with you when you get winded quail hunting.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 07:39:31 PM
I haven’t seen anything indicating Feinstein received Ford’s permission to release the letter before she did so.

And agree we may never know who leaked the info to the press “necessitating” the release. I mean, all we have is a Democratic senator’s office repeatedly pleading for permission to release the letter and then later releasing it in response to an unknown leak of the letter which happened to come at the last possible moment of the confirmation proceedings.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 07:51:39 PM
I haven’t seen anything indicating Feinstein received Ford’s permission to release the letter before she did so.

And agree we may never know who leaked the info to the press “necessitating” the release. I mean, all we have is a Democratic senator’s office repeatedly pleading for permission to release the letter and then later releasing it in response to an unknown leak of the letter which happened to come at the last possible moment of the confirmation proceedings.

yeah, after reading up on it now, it appears that feinstein forwarded the letter to the fbi after the existence of the letter was published and after other democrats started pressuring her to do something with it, but before ford agreed to be outed.

so, if forwarding the letter to the fbi would have caused, or would have been likely to cause, ford's identity to be revealed, then feinstein should not have done so until a couple of days later than she did - after either the press outed ford or ford outed herself before the press could get to it.

otoh, if if forwarding the letter to the fbi would not have caused, or would not have been likely to cause, ford's identity to be revealed, then feinstein probably should have forwarded the letter earlier (probably because if ford still would have not wanted it forwarded, even knowing it would not beome public, then feinstein should still have not forwarded it).

i think the former is more likely, but i'm not completely sure.  so my judgement based on what i know/surmise now is that she probably released it a couple of days too soon, probably in response to pressure from dem colleagues.


if she or her staff leaked it, obviously that was wrong.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 08:01:44 PM
 :lol:

https://twitter.com/wjmcgurn/status/1042191728885690368
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 08:22:24 PM
https://twitter.com/emmersbrown/status/1043279666310787072
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 21, 2018, 08:27:59 PM
He's a louse. He has no honor.

https://twitter.com/qjurecic/status/1043269044995088384
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 21, 2018, 08:29:06 PM
The fbi isn't investigating this, bc (a) it isn't their jurisdiction, and (b) there's nothing to investigate. The accuser (shrink who needs is seeing shrink for head shrinking purposes) can't remember when or where or who was present for an incident that supposedly occurred 36 years ago. Further, she won't tesify before an NON PARTISAN congressional committee comprised of 11 pubs and 10 dems without absurd conditions. There is no legitimate basis for this refusal, and only absurd excuses are offered.

The overt and obvious political implications of this make this charade even more implausible bc of the absurd precedent it would set.

The entire notion that the sort of assault alleged was normal in 1982 (complete fiction) somehow implies guilt on the part of the accused is probably the most disgusting premise of this era(thanks metoo psycopaths). If the pubs placate to this abject and unfounded character assassination, they deserve to lose the SCOTUS and legislative branch of government.

Congrats in advance BK. You're willingness to testify again, for no reason atall, is the only thing even remotely honorable about this entire crap show.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 21, 2018, 08:29:15 PM
https://twitter.com/emmersbrown/status/1043279666310787072

whoa
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 21, 2018, 08:30:49 PM
Maybe Kavvy told them her name.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 08:37:45 PM
He's a louse. He has no honor.

whoa.  he's lost wittes.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 21, 2018, 08:39:49 PM
Maybe Kavvy told them her name.

That should be easy enough to investigate.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 21, 2018, 08:41:42 PM
Maybe Kavvy told them her name.

That should be easy enough to investigate.

You just have to ask Kavvy under oath.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 21, 2018, 08:45:12 PM
Totalitarianism: the accused bears the burden of proof. From a "lawyer". Despicable

"Kavanaugh Bears the Burden of Proof"
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Kat Kid on September 21, 2018, 08:49:04 PM
Kavanaugh is a completely power worshipping sociopathic lunatic with terrible beliefs, but he will be replaced by someone equally bad. The ideologies of nearly everyone in DC makes a mockery of honor, integrity, and justice. At least Trump is so incredibly stupid that he just reveals the entire shell game as a joke. The amount of people that are still invested in this idea of some sort of meritocratic bureaucracy vanguard that can save us are almost worse than the MAGA rubes who genuinely just want a public spectacle of hatred for their enemies and are mostly getting it.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 21, 2018, 08:49:38 PM
this is really good.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/copaken-kavanaugh/571042/
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 21, 2018, 08:50:32 PM
Kavanaugh is a completely power worshipping sociopathic lunatic with terrible beliefs, but he will be replaced by someone equally bad. The ideologies of nearly everyone in DC makes a mockery of honor, integrity, and justice. At least Trump is so incredibly stupid that he just reveals the entire shell game as a joke. The amount of people that are still invested in this idea of some sort of meritocratic bureaucracy vanguard that can save us are almost worse than the MAGA rubes who genuinely just want a public spectacle of hatred for their enemies and are mostly getting it.

kat kid, you talk good
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 21, 2018, 08:51:52 PM
this is really good.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/copaken-kavanaugh/571042/

that is really good
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 21, 2018, 09:06:45 PM
Kavanaugh is a completely power worshipping sociopathic lunatic with terrible beliefs, but he will be replaced by someone equally bad. The ideologies of nearly everyone in DC makes a mockery of honor, integrity, and justice. At least Trump is so incredibly stupid that he just reveals the entire shell game as a joke. The amount of people that are still invested in this idea of some sort of meritocratic bureaucracy vanguard that can save us are almost worse than the MAGA rubes who genuinely just want a public spectacle of hatred for their enemies and are mostly getting it.

I'm glad you've given up. It spares all of us this sanctimonious mean spirited and unfounded drivel.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 21, 2018, 09:14:13 PM
 :sdeek:

https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1043321476131291136
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 21, 2018, 09:30:55 PM
At least Dr. Hayes isn't attempting to conceal the obvious partisan motive here.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Kat Kid on September 21, 2018, 09:34:58 PM
Kavanaugh is a completely power worshipping sociopathic lunatic with terrible beliefs, but he will be replaced by someone equally bad. The ideologies of nearly everyone in DC makes a mockery of honor, integrity, and justice. At least Trump is so incredibly stupid that he just reveals the entire shell game as a joke. The amount of people that are still invested in this idea of some sort of meritocratic bureaucracy vanguard that can save us are almost worse than the MAGA rubes who genuinely just want a public spectacle of hatred for their enemies and are mostly getting it.

I'm glad you've given up. It spares all of us this sanctimonious mean spirited and unfounded drivel.

Always good to get an earnest lecture about mean spiritedness from poster handle sugar dick.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 21, 2018, 09:38:12 PM
I have a hard time believing Ford has a partisan motive here. I do think her story was unfortunately used that way against her wishes by people who are at best only tangentially interested in whether or not it is true.

For the same reason, agree with KK about the grossness of people in Washington. The fact is that no modern day SCOTUS judge is getting nominated because they’re fair or a beacon of integrity.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 21, 2018, 09:57:31 PM
Would have been a better sanctimonious rant with sycophant incorporated into it  , but it was very good.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 21, 2018, 09:57:54 PM
There's just nothing more courageous and nonpartisan than a woman, who allows a rapist to run around unaccused, free to rape countless women for three and a half decades, to come forward to in order stop him from invoking his "politics" and those victims.

That's the absurd premise these lunatics are running with.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 21, 2018, 10:01:26 PM
I'm sure we'll get plenty more angry old white guy takes from the senate as well
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiet on September 21, 2018, 10:48:51 PM
So is Kavanaugh going to get shoved up America’s ass on Monday or what?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 22, 2018, 03:24:14 AM
Kavanaugh is a completely power worshipping sociopathic lunatic with terrible beliefs, but he will be replaced by someone equally bad. The ideologies of nearly everyone in DC makes a mockery of honor, integrity, and justice. At least Trump is so incredibly stupid that he just reveals the entire shell game as a joke. The amount of people that are still invested in this idea of some sort of meritocratic bureaucracy vanguard that can save us are almost worse than the MAGA rubes who genuinely just want a public spectacle of hatred for their enemies and are mostly getting it.

kat kid, you talk good
KK, what are your 3 fave and 3 least fave BK opinions during his time on the D.C. Circuit?



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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Kat Kid on September 22, 2018, 07:39:56 AM
Kavanaugh is a completely power worshipping sociopathic lunatic with terrible beliefs, but he will be replaced by someone equally bad. The ideologies of nearly everyone in DC makes a mockery of honor, integrity, and justice. At least Trump is so incredibly stupid that he just reveals the entire shell game as a joke. The amount of people that are still invested in this idea of some sort of meritocratic bureaucracy vanguard that can save us are almost worse than the MAGA rubes who genuinely just want a public spectacle of hatred for their enemies and are mostly getting it.

kat kid, you talk good
KK, what are your 3 fave and 3 least fave BK opinions during his time on the D.C. Circuit?



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if you think I regularly read appellate court opinions in my spare time, I have some disappointing news...
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 22, 2018, 11:03:22 AM
It must suck being a female up against this. I won't even sexually assault them knowing how much crap they would get from FSD if they outed me.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 22, 2018, 11:59:48 AM
https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1043506484041199616
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 22, 2018, 12:01:56 PM
It must suck being a female up against this. I won't even sexually assault them knowing how much crap they would get from FSD if they outed me.
It must be hell watching your life, career, and reputation besmirched by a woman with no substantiated claim that Kavanaugh is able.to factually refute.  When did this occur?  Where did it occur?
Ford says it did happen somewhere and at sometime, so Gawd Rammit it's true. 
If I were Kavanaugh I would tell the whole bunch I got a lifetime gig as an applelate judge and they can just shove it up their butts, and would file a civill suit against Ford and make her prove her wild ass allegations.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 12:49:57 PM
rough ridin' twitter doxxed those poor boys that raped the girl in e. bruenig's arlington story too.  i can't imagine the hell.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 02:06:25 PM
https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1043571309358329858
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 02:29:06 PM
https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1043506535874396160
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 22, 2018, 02:33:45 PM
Seems like a pretty open guy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 02:42:39 PM
the idea of ed whelan cackling to himself thinking of feinstein offering a tearful apology to kavanaugh as he sweeps to a unanimous confirmation after whelan has proven, beyond any person's capacity to doubt, that there was another student at georgetown prep that also had brown hair and lived in a house makes me so happy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 22, 2018, 05:10:47 PM
https://twitter.com/EricSchultz/status/1043621903603310592
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 22, 2018, 05:38:37 PM
I think refusing to answer questions about your sex life (other than alleged crimes) is a perfectly good and reasonable response.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 22, 2018, 06:23:47 PM
This is also about making the Republicans look like women haters.  Like they did when Nita Hill made shaky allegations against Judge Thomas.   I hope Grassley holds his ground and Trump jams his fingers up his butt when he has the urge to tweet about this.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 22, 2018, 06:47:57 PM
https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1043571309358329858

Good deal, let’s hear her side and see if any new information comes from
It. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 07:51:59 PM
https://twitter.com/EricSchultz/status/1043621903603310592

i really couldn't tell from that article if they are smart enough to pull him or not.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: CHONGS on September 22, 2018, 07:53:55 PM
They would be stupid to pull him. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 08:13:12 PM
They would be stupid to pull him.

he's a giant divisive bat signal to the most important midterm demographic and they can replace him with any of 20 fed-listers that would cast the exact same votes as he would.

a semi-competent admin would have pulled him two weeks ago.  an actually competent admin would have never nominated him.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: CHONGS on September 22, 2018, 08:15:43 PM
I don't think him getting confirmed by any means necessary will hurt the pubs at all.  On the other hand caving in will deflate the base. 

They can't flinch.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 22, 2018, 08:17:03 PM
If Ford’s testimony remains the only evidence of the assault, Republicans are going to be much more energized to turn out in November if he ends up not getting confirmed. It’s probably the dream scenario for Trump.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 08:25:29 PM
neither of you have the faintest idea of what you're talking about, so i forgive you.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: CHONGS on September 22, 2018, 08:26:42 PM
neither of you have the faintest idea of what you're talking about, so i forgive you.
Which demographic are you talking about?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 08:30:22 PM
a lesbian indian is polling ahead of an incumbent pub named after a town in central kansas in ks-3 and you dudes are skipping down memory lane whistling maga.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 08:32:05 PM
Which demographic are you talking about?

college white women.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: CHONGS on September 22, 2018, 08:34:17 PM


Which demographic are you talking about?

college white women.

They'll reliably vote pub when the time comes. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: CHONGS on September 22, 2018, 08:40:06 PM
a lesbian indian is polling ahead of an incumbent pub named after a town in central kansas in ks-3 and you dudes are skipping down memory lane whistling maga.
You can't possibly think she's going to win or even come within single digits of winning.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
They'll reliably vote pub when the time comes.

think of it good old college white male about to close the deal with college white female - "we are your sons, husbands and fathers, all that we have, we will share with you, cherished rib of our own body."  and right as college white female is about to sign the dotted line... "but, we get to rape you."
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 08:42:34 PM
You can't possibly think she's going to win or even come within single digits of winning.

i have money down on beto losing and davids winning.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 22, 2018, 08:44:18 PM
They'll reliably vote pub when the time comes.

think of it good old college white male about to close the deal with college white female - "we are your sons, husbands and fathers, all that we have, we will share with you, cherished rib of our own body."  and right as college white female is about to sign the dotted line... "but, we get to rape you."

 :shy:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: CHONGS on September 22, 2018, 08:44:28 PM


They'll reliably vote pub when the time comes.

think of it good old college white male about to close the deal with college white female - "we are your sons, husbands and fathers, all that we have, we will share with you, cherished rib of our own body."  and right as college white female is about to sign the dotted line... "but, we get to rape you."

They sign with a smile on their face, believing in the bottom of the their heart that it will some other women, bad women who probably deserve it.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 22, 2018, 09:06:45 PM
It’s kind of amazing you still don’t realize how important SCOTUS justices are to Republicans. Even lady college ones.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 09:18:15 PM
They sign with a smile on their face, believing in the bottom of the their heart that it will some other women, bad women who probably deserve it.

i do not think she will sign.  but regardless, a competent admin would not have put it in chance.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 09:20:07 PM
It’s kind of amazing you still don’t realize how important SCOTUS justices are to Republicans. Even lady college ones.

you can take 30% for granted, but 30% also doesn't get you crap.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 22, 2018, 09:25:47 PM
If they all turn out it does.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 09:30:58 PM
turn out is very hard to model, true.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 22, 2018, 10:40:37 PM
It’s kind of amazing you still don’t realize how important SCOTUS justices are to Republicans. Even lady college ones.

Roe v. Wade really did a number on them.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on September 23, 2018, 12:58:46 AM
It’s kind of amazing you still don’t realize how important SCOTUS justices are to Republicans. Even lady college ones.

you can take 30% for granted, but 30% also doesn't get you crap.

This doesn't hold up
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 23, 2018, 08:49:21 AM
https://twitter.com/jtlevy/status/1043815849096826880
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 23, 2018, 02:38:13 PM
Cool!

Quote
Christine Blasey Ford has claimed that four other people attended a small gathering at which she was allegedly assaulted by Brett Kavanaugh. Three of those people, PJ Smyth, Mark Judge, and Kavanaugh, have already denied any recollection of attending such a party.

On Saturday night, Leland Ingham Keyser, a classmate of Ford's at the all-girls school Holton-Arms and her final named witness, denied any recollection of attending a party with Brett Kavanaugh.

Keyser previously coached golf at Georgetown University and is now executive producer of Bob Beckel's podcast. Keyser is the ex-wife of Beckel, a former Democratic operative and commentator. A search on OpenSecrets.org reveals Keyser's only political donation has been to former Democratic senator Byron Dorgan.

Keyser's denial, as a female lifelong friend and Ford's last named witness, is the most consequential development that has occurred since Ford publicly stepped forward last Sunday and detailed her allegations to the Washington Post.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 23, 2018, 02:42:39 PM
Not sure if this is enough to overcome the whole uber convincing leftist argument that "white guys in the 80's groped women with impunity, so this definitely happened"
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 23, 2018, 03:21:31 PM
Apt summary of the series of unfortunate events

Quote
On Monday, her lawyer and Democrats demanded she be allowed to testify. They insisted she was eager to do it. When Republicans immediately agreed, the demand changed to requiring an FBI investigation first. This occurred despite there being nothing for the FBI to investigate, since her story has evolved slightly but still lacks any details that could prove or disprove anything. Once that attempt at delay was played out, Republicans set a deadline: decide to testify by Friday at 10:00 am or there will be a Committee vote Monday.


As if it weren’t weird enough already, leftists issued more demands. She would tell the story she was supposedly itching to tell if, and only if, her wish list was granted. After days of liberals decrying the idea “a bunch of white men” asking her questions, she insisted that only those white men be allowed to ask her questions – none of this having a female staff lawyer ask her anything. Optics suddenly became more important than “her truth.”

She also wanted Judge Kavanaugh to testify first. While Kavanaugh has been unequivocal in his denials and never waived from his commitment to rebut any allegation, you can’t rebut allegations that haven’t been testified to. The accused never goes first, it’s un-American.

That didn’t matter, Democrats were immediately on board because they wanted anything to delay the process further. The concept of not allowing Ford and her team to dictate how the United State Senate conducts its business was irrelevant, and anything short of complete appeasement was declared “bullying.” In fact, everything was declared bullying. Every time Republicans agreed to what she wanted they were called bullies, chastised for “re-traumatizing” Ford for not agreeing to simply believe her.

Guilty was the only answer they’d accept, though they’d likely declare that not enough if they’d gotten it.

Senator Chuck Grassley, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, kept setting deadlines for her to agree to testify or he’d call for a vote. She wouldn’t, then he’d change them. His leadership made Barack Obama look strong on chemical weapons use in Syria.


On Friday, Ford came up with a new excuse as to why she can’t testify on Monday – she’s uncomfortable with confined spaces, so she won’t fly to DC. She’ll drive, probably, but couldn’t possibly make it till Thursday. She’s had all week to decide this, but didn’t mention anything about this “phobia” until yet another deadline approached.

It worked, Grassley’s deadline was moved again.

After that, Senator Dianne Feinstein, who started all of this by hiding Ford’s letter for 6 weeks, had the nerve to say, “We must treat sexual assault survivors with respect, not bully or try to silence them.”

There was no bullying and there was nothing more Republicans could do to hear her story, her team was delaying again because delay was their only play.

Feinstein’s lies were not unique to her. Miraculously, every Democrat and journalist switched stories the way a baby has their diaper changed, and none of them missed a beat or were bothered by contradicting themselves, sometimes from just hours earlier. It was disgusting.

I don’t know what happened for Ford, but I do know she doesn’t want to talk about it under oath. In the past 2 months, she’s talked to probably dozens of Democrats at this point, elected and activist, the Washington Post on multiple occasions, a therapist, a polygraph operator, her husband, friends, but no one under oath.

Kavanaugh has submitted a statement that is subject to perjury laws, as have the others Ford said were at the party she can’t remember the location or year of, but she hasn’t. Her team is doing everything possible to avoid it, they want this hanging out there as long as possible to weaponize the charge without having it questioned. The Soviet Union used to do this, not America.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on September 23, 2018, 05:57:20 PM
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1043992261938335747
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on September 23, 2018, 06:46:50 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1044006928416825344
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 23, 2018, 06:50:44 PM
Still very much a mess.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on September 23, 2018, 06:59:11 PM
https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1044011379223670784
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on September 23, 2018, 07:13:41 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1044013350873489409
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Kat Kid on September 23, 2018, 07:34:18 PM
when weighing who you should believe about the midterms, and electoral politics in general, keep in mind that sys was fantasizing about some Mormon CIA agent winning a state or two in 2016.

Chingon understands the steely eyed death cult full well.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 23, 2018, 07:35:52 PM
This is always a red flag for me:

Quote
She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections

30+ years of self assessment and she’s not sure. But six days after being pressured by news agencies to put together a coherent story...

Everyone should want to hear more about this, but that is like prime inception territory.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 23, 2018, 08:42:01 PM
https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1044037364392374273
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: michigancat on September 23, 2018, 08:56:49 PM
This is always a red flag for me:

Quote
She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections

30+ years of self assessment and she’s not sure. But six days after being pressured by news agencies to put together a coherent story...

Everyone should want to hear more about this, but that is like prime inception territory.
You sound like a sexual assaulter ITT
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 23, 2018, 09:09:12 PM
Georgetown Prep getting quite the publicity.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 23, 2018, 09:12:18 PM
This is always a red flag for me:

Quote
She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections

30+ years of self assessment and she’s not sure. But six days after being pressured by news agencies to put together a coherent story...

Everyone should want to hear more about this, but that is like prime inception territory.
You sound like a sexual assaulter ITT

I could link you the research on this, but my guess is you’re not really interested in actual guilt or innocence at this point.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: ednksu on September 23, 2018, 09:58:38 PM
This is always a red flag for me:

Quote
She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections

30+ years of self assessment and she’s not sure. But six days after being pressured by news agencies to put together a coherent story...

Everyone should want to hear more about this, but that is like prime inception territory.
You sound like a sexual assaulter ITT

I could link you the research on this, but my guess is you’re not really interested in actual guilt or innocence at this point.

Yes, please link us the "research" on how women over report and never conceal assault crimes.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 23, 2018, 10:06:26 PM
This isn't about women "over reporting" sexual assault.  It is about people with distant hazy memories and/or PTSD potentially being taken advantage of by those with partisan motives.  It is very possible to implant distant memories in these kinds of people.

A few to get you started:

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/false-memory-syndrome-false-confessions-memories

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010945216301678 (maybe you can find a free version of the full article?)

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/06/19/remembering-the-murder-you-didnt-commit

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: michigancat on September 23, 2018, 10:18:56 PM
I'm not questioning the research, just disturbed by how hard catastrophe is railing against the women. I can't convict him, just getting creepo vibes.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 23, 2018, 10:21:38 PM
I'm not questioning the research, just disturbed by how hard catastrophe is railing against the women. I can't convict him, just getting creepo vibes.
If you knew catastrophe, you'd know his character is better than yours. You've already made up your mind. You don't care about the evidence. Gah...

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: michigancat on September 23, 2018, 10:26:35 PM
I'm not questioning the research, just disturbed by how hard catastrophe is railing against the women. I can't convict him, just getting creepo vibes.
If you knew catastrophe, you'd know his character is better than yours. You've already made up your mind. You don't care about the evidence. Gah...

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 23, 2018, 10:42:01 PM
This isn't about women "over reporting" sexual assault.  It is about people with distant hazy memories and/or PTSD potentially being taken advantage of by those with partisan motives.  It is very possible to implant distant memories in these kinds of people.

A few to get you started:

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/false-memory-syndrome-false-confessions-memories

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010945216301678 (maybe you can find a free version of the full article?)

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/06/19/remembering-the-murder-you-didnt-commit

More importantly, not a single person who was allegedly at these parties has any recollection of them ever occurring. The "witnesses" are unanimous in not having a clue what these women are talking about.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: ednksu on September 23, 2018, 10:59:50 PM
This isn't about women "over reporting" sexual assault.  It is about people with distant hazy memories and/or PTSD potentially being taken advantage of by those with partisan motives.  It is very possible to implant distant memories in these kinds of people.

A few to get you started:

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/false-memory-syndrome-false-confessions-memories

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010945216301678 (maybe you can find a free version of the full article?)

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/06/19/remembering-the-murder-you-didnt-commit

More importantly, not a single person who was allegedly at these parties has any recollection of them ever occurring. The "witnesses" are unanimous in not having a clue what these women are talking about.
LOL not true at all, but keep your head in the sand.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 23, 2018, 11:07:50 PM
No, it's true. Nobody these people have identified by name as bearing witness has any recollection of the event ever occurring. They are o-fer on corroborating witnesses.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 23, 2018, 11:16:25 PM
Cut and paste from the new yorker article

Quote
One of the male classmates who Ramirez said egged on Kavanaugh denied any memory of the party. “I don’t think Brett would flash himself to Debbie, or anyone, for that matter,” he said. Asked why he thought Ramirez was making the allegation, he responded, “I have no idea.” The other male classmate who Ramirez said was involved in the incident commented, “I have zero recollection.”

In a statement, two of those male classmates who Ramirez alleged were involved in the incident, the wife of a third male student she said was involved, and three other classmates, Dino Ewing, Louisa Garry, and Dan Murphy, disputed Ramirez’s account of events: “We were the people closest to Brett Kavanaugh during his first year at Yale. He was a roommate to some of us, and we spent a great deal of time with him, including in the dorm where this incident allegedly took place. Some of us were also friends with Debbie Ramirez during and after her time at Yale. We can say with confidence that if the incident Debbie alleges ever occurred, we would have seen or heard about it—and we did not. The behavior she describes would be completely out of character for Brett. In addition, some of us knew Debbie long after Yale, and she never described this incident until Brett’s Supreme Court nomination was pending. Editors from the New Yorker contacted some of us because we are the people who would know the truth, and we told them that we never saw or heard about this.”

The former friend who was married to the male classmate alleged to be involved, and who signed the statement, said of Ramirez, “This is a woman I was best friends with. We shared intimate details of our lives. And I was never told this story by her, or by anyone else. It never came up. I didn’t see it; I never heard of it happening.”


All 4 people Ford said were at the party that one time and that one place had no recollection of any such event.

They are batting .000 (0-10) with corroborating witnesses. I can't believe the New Yorker even published that garbage.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 23, 2018, 11:17:45 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1044013350873489409

Everyone agrees this guy is a total clown, right?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 24, 2018, 07:03:12 AM
Interesting.  Senator Fienstein this morning is calling for a delay in the vote to investigate these latest  harges.  Both are baseless.   Seems like a ploy to me to stop the nomination.
I AM AS MAD AS HELL!
I hope every man and real woman understand that radical Democrats are willing to stoops so low to a point of destroying a man by innuendo.and not facts.  Yet they don't belive facts when their 2nd in command is accused of the same offenses.
Why do facts matter?
Professor Ford can't remember when her supposed attack happened; cannot even narrow it down to the week.  Kavanaugh has to have this fact to defend himself.  During much of the summer when this occurred he was not even at home.  Ford said 4 people were there when incident happened.  All 4 deny it did happen.
I believe Democrats don't believe her either.  She served their purpose of delay and convincing women Republicans hate them.  Keep the ball rolling - find the next liar!!!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2018, 08:23:09 AM
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1044056219084828672

What a dork lol
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 24, 2018, 08:45:02 AM
No, it's true. Nobody these people have identified by name as bearing witness has any recollection of the event ever occurring. They are o-fer on corroborating witnesses.

I mean:

Quote
A classmate of Ramirez’s, who declined to be identified because of the partisan battle over Kavanaugh’s nomination, said that another student told him about the incident either on the night of the party or in the next day or two. The classmate said that he is “one-hundred-per-cent sure” that he was told at the time that Kavanaugh was the student who exposed himself to Ramirez. He independently recalled many of the same details offered by Ramirez, including that a male student had encouraged Kavanaugh as he exposed himself. The classmate, like Ramirez, recalled that the party took place in a common room on the first floor in Entryway B of Lawrance Hall, during their freshman year. “I’ve known this all along,” he said. “It’s been on my mind all these years when his name came up. It was a big deal.”

Sure it's an anonymous source, but I don't think that's reason to just completely dismiss it at this point.  Of course, good for the New Yorker for being willing to publish all the accounts contradicting this story (although the author on NPR this morning seemed careful not to mention them in her synopsis of the story).
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 24, 2018, 08:59:16 AM
keep in mind that sys was fantasizing about some Mormon CIA agent winning a state or two in 2016.

hmm, tagteaming with 'ophe to demonstrate the problems with relying on memory?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2018, 09:00:30 AM
Lol
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 24, 2018, 09:01:11 AM
this dude is mumped.  if the admin is too stupid to figure it out, mcconnell will force the issue.  he's not going to risk his majority for this fuckface.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2018, 09:06:21 AM
The court is what Republicans value the most tho (I think cause activist judges hate abortion). Short term sacrifice for long term no babykillin'.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 24, 2018, 09:09:58 AM
The court is what Republicans value the most tho (I think cause activist judges hate abortion). Short term sacrifice for long term no babykillin'.

they're not going to nominate some libtard when they pull kavanaugh.  the replacement will rule the same way on every case.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 24, 2018, 09:15:30 AM
And you will support Democrats doing everything they can to obstruct confirmation of that nominee.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2018, 09:17:38 AM
It's risky now tho, they may not have time during election season and lose the senate anyway.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 24, 2018, 09:18:32 AM
And you will support Democrats doing everything they can to obstruct confirmation of that nominee.

i support them fighting kavanaugh because it advantages democrats in the midterms.  that's a win.  fighting a more popular nominee would be a loss.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 24, 2018, 09:41:55 AM
And you will support Democrats doing everything they can to obstruct confirmation of that nominee.

i support them fighting kavanaugh because it advantages democrats in the midterms.  that's a win.  fighting a more popular nominee would be a loss.

That's not what you said last time with Gorsuch :dunno:

Seems like a highly respects judge-guy.

that's really irrelevant, phil.  they have to disincentivize maneuvers like that of blocking garland.

And speaking of political ramifications of fighting a popular SCOTUS nominee:

I gotta say, the more Democrats fight this, I think the better it is for Trump.

I'd love to see this explanation

yeah, that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 24, 2018, 09:42:59 AM
And you will support Democrats doing everything they can to obstruct confirmation of that nominee.

i support them fighting kavanaugh because it advantages democrats in the midterms.  that's a win.  fighting a more popular nominee would be a loss.
Americans cherish fairness.  Once they understand how unfair the dump Kavanaugh zealots are, they will unleash their ire on Democrats.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 24, 2018, 09:59:05 AM
Let this be a lesson to all the precocious young boys coming up in elite east-coast prep schools.


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 24, 2018, 10:06:50 AM
That's not what you said last time with Gorsuch :dunno:

yep, i thought they should have taken a righteous position on gorsuch to highlight the garland travesty.  it's possible i was wrong about that, but it was my thought at the time.

you'll notice i didn't post anything about fighting kavanaugh until he was already a sinking ship. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 24, 2018, 10:08:40 AM
Let this be a lesson to all the precocious young boys coming up in elite east-coast prep schools.


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I think not attending rape parties is probably a lesson worth learning.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Trim on September 24, 2018, 10:13:46 AM
The court is what Republicans value the most tho (I think cause activist judges hate abortion). Short term sacrifice for long term no babykillin'.

they're not going to nominate some libtard when they pull kavanaugh.  the replacement will rule the same way on every case.

Given this reality, it's weird that we still use humans at all for the supreme court.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: michigancat on September 24, 2018, 10:14:17 AM
Let this be a lesson to all the precocious young boys coming up in elite east-coast prep schools.


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I think not attending rape parties is probably a lesson worth learning.

Yeah, even if these allegations are completely fabricated, a reduction in the number of prep school rape parties would be a net positive for society.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 24, 2018, 10:41:09 AM
That's not what you said last time with Gorsuch :dunno:

yep, i thought they should have taken a righteous position on gorsuch to highlight the garland travesty.  it's possible i was wrong about that, but it was my thought at the time.

you'll notice i didn't post anything about fighting kavanaugh until he was already a sinking ship.

Yes of course, I will grant that if there is any reason to deny a republican nominee other than "blood for blood" you are going to go with that.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 24, 2018, 10:49:17 AM
Yes of course, I will grant that if there is any reason to deny a republican nominee other than "blood for blood" you are going to go with that.

you're not even pretending to impartiality anymore.  why are you so hung up this rapist?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 24, 2018, 11:18:08 AM
lol ok

I’ve posted yours, you post mine.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: michigancat on September 24, 2018, 12:07:15 PM
Yes of course, I will grant that if there is any reason to deny a republican nominee other than "blood for blood" you are going to go with that.

you're not even pretending to impartiality anymore.  why are you so hung up this rapist?
I think he would have done the same for any rapist
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 24, 2018, 01:06:44 PM
Yes of course, I will grant that if there is any reason to deny a republican nominee other than "blood for blood" you are going to go with that.

you're not even pretending to impartiality anymore.  why are you so hung up this rapist?
I think he would have done the same for any rapist

Most likely just rapists who want to repeal Roe v Wade.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: michigancat on September 24, 2018, 01:18:41 PM
Yes of course, I will grant that if there is any reason to deny a republican nominee other than "blood for blood" you are going to go with that.

you're not even pretending to impartiality anymore.  why are you so hung up this rapist?
I think he would have done the same for any rapist

Most likely just rapists who want to repeal Roe v Wade.

I don't know, I think he's more worried about protecting men possibly falsely accused of rape than he wants to stop women from having abortions.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 24, 2018, 04:04:23 PM
https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1044319560323731457
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 24, 2018, 04:07:26 PM
lol ok

I’ve posted yours, you post mine.

i don't know what i've mine you've posted.

if you're asking why i don't believe that you are impartial it's because as soon as a woman discusses her memories of kav, you're all "actually, false memories are surprisingly common, ..."  but you've not mentioned so much as a caveat as to the likelihood that a perpetually drunk man would recall any of his specific drunken escapades 30 years later and what that suggests regarding the credibility of kav's denials.  and because when anyone mentions his frequent lies, you jump in with "actually, it's surprisingly difficult to convict of perjury, ..."  and most of all because you argue that it is appropriate to prevent investigation of the women's allegations by nonpartisan, professional investigators.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 24, 2018, 04:26:14 PM
No, it's true. Nobody these people have identified by name as bearing witness has any recollection of the event ever occurring. They are o-fer on corroborating witnesses.

I mean:

Quote
A classmate of Ramirez’s, who declined to be identified because of the partisan battle over Kavanaugh’s nomination, said that another student told him about the incident either on the night of the party or in the next day or two. The classmate said that he is “one-hundred-per-cent sure” that he was told at the time that Kavanaugh was the student who exposed himself to Ramirez. He independently recalled many of the same details offered by Ramirez, including that a male student had encouraged Kavanaugh as he exposed himself. The classmate, like Ramirez, recalled that the party took place in a common room on the first floor in Entryway B of Lawrance Hall, during their freshman year. “I’ve known this all along,” he said. “It’s been on my mind all these years when his name came up. It was a big deal.”

Sure it's an anonymous source, but I don't think that's reason to just completely dismiss it at this point.  Of course, good for the New Yorker for being willing to publish all the accounts contradicting this story (although the author on NPR this morning seemed careful not to mention them in her synopsis of the story).

That person isn't purporting to have been at the party.  That statement is called hearsay.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 24, 2018, 04:30:44 PM
https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1044319560323731457

He should definitely just sit there and let the entire democrat party accuse him of being a rapist based upon hazy uncorroborated "assaults" at some unknown party at some unknown place, because "optics". I mean, it would be pretty bad "optics" if he went into hiding instread of denying these accusations.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 24, 2018, 04:35:13 PM
lol ok

I’ve posted yours, you post mine.

i don't know what i've mine you've posted.

if you're asking why i don't believe that you are impartial it's because as soon as a woman discusses her memories of kav, you're all "actually, false memories are surprisingly common, ..."  but you've not mentioned so much as a caveat as to the likelihood that a perpetually drunk man would recall any of his specific drunken escapades 30 years later and what that suggests regarding the credibility of kav's denials.  and because when anyone mentions his frequent lies, you jump in with "actually, it's surprisingly difficult to convict of perjury, ..."  and most of all because you argue that it is appropriate to prevent investigation of the women's allegations by nonpartisan, professional investigators.

There's no evidence of lying. You're just mad he didn't answer the questions the way you thought he should based upon your opinion of his beliefs.

There's also no evidence he was drunk for 30 years.

Ironically, you're actually what you say he is, a liar predisposed to certain point of view, who probably got drunk in high school and college.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 24, 2018, 04:39:20 PM
if you're asking why i don't believe that you are impartial it's because as soon as a woman discusses her memories of kav, you're all "actually, false memories are surprisingly common, ..."  but you've not mentioned so much as a caveat as to the likelihood that a perpetually drunk man would recall any of his specific drunken escapades 30 years later and what that suggests regarding the credibility of kav's denials.

I'm a bit confused by this because it's equating a 30+ year old memory of something with a 30+ year old non-memory of something.  Of course Kav could not remember details from that long ago because he was drunk.  He also may just not have retained that information for any number of reasons.  But if you're acting like that is an argument against his credibility, I don't get it.  No matter what his reason for not remembering (drunk, head trauma, or the event never actually occurred), the denial would still be credible absent evidence to the contrary.  That's why anyone who actually cares about discerning the truth here is going to be focused on the account of the person who alleges the event occurred.

and because when anyone mentions his frequent lies, you jump in with "actually, it's surprisingly difficult to convict of perjury, ..."

I never said anything about the high legal burden to prove perjury.  I said if it takes a complicated explanation to explain how someone was lying, you've got a weak case for it.

and most of all because you argue that it is appropriate to prevent investigation of the women's allegations by nonpartisan, professional investigators.

Taking liberties with the word "preventing" there, but I'll let it slide.  The WH may have to politically pay for their decision not to authorize further investigation, but no, I don't think there is anything unjust about it.  The man already has a lifetime appointment to the Nation's second highest court.  If you are accusing him of a crime, alert the proper authorities and press charges.  On the other hand, if you are purely coming forward because you believe you have information that should be considered during the nomination process, you gotta bear some of the responsibility to make sure you bring that crap up with time left in the process.

I'll use Roy Moore as an example.  It makes sense for the women to come out near the election with information they felt voters should be aware of, even though it may have been more effective to do so in the primary.  But do I think the Governor was wrong not to postpone the election to further investigate and/or provide an opportunity to remove Moore from the ballot?  Of course not.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 24, 2018, 04:53:21 PM
I'm a bit confused by this because it's equating a 30+ year old memory of something with a 30+ year old non-memory of something.  Of course Kav could not remember details from that long ago because he was drunk.  He also may just not have retained that information for any number of reasons.  But if you're acting like that is an argument against his credibility, I don't get it.  No matter what his reason for not remembering (drunk, head trauma, or the event never actually occurred), the denial would still be credible absent evidence to the contrary.  That's why anyone who actually cares about discerning the truth here is going to be focused on the account of the person who alleges the event occurred.

the probability of a person's 30 year old memory being roughly accurate, while far from 100%, is much greater than the probability that any specific event from 30 years ago would be retained in memory.  therefore, assuming neither party is lying, the person asserting the memory is more likely to be rendering an accurate recounting than the person asserting that because they do not recall the event, it didn't occur.


I never said anything about the high legal burden to prove perjury.  I said if it takes a complicated explanation to explain how someone was lying, you've got a weak case for it.

even odder then, since the explanation for multiple cases is that he said x and x isn't true.


no, I don't think there is anything unjust about it.

i don't think this requires anything more.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 24, 2018, 05:28:22 PM
Yeah I think I might just let you and FSD keep each other busy ITT. My goodness.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: michigancat on September 24, 2018, 06:28:21 PM
why did he do that interview with his wife next to him
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 24, 2018, 06:51:32 PM
 
why did he do that interview with his wife next to him

Lol
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 24, 2018, 07:01:47 PM
haha


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 24, 2018, 07:41:14 PM
https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1044011379223670784

Apparently the NYT, WaPo, and NBC all passed on this story because of the dearth of credibility.  :lol:

That's really saying something given the garbage rhetoric they're ordinarily willing to run with.

Sysgender knows better though  :dubious:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 24, 2018, 07:49:26 PM
A lot of people unimpressed with the New Yorker here

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/24/critics-condemn-new-yorker-over-uncorroborated-kavanaugh-story-lazy-at-best-slimy-at-worst.html

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 24, 2018, 07:50:00 PM
I kind of think the writers did it to sabotage the libtards. Put them in the impossible position of paying undying creed to this bullshit story and lose all credibility, or don't respond to it (which appears is what they intended to do and of course not tell anyone about it) and become the insensitive white male bogeyman they rail against as their sole and singular party platform. It's either amazingly self destructive, or incredibly calculated.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 24, 2018, 07:52:17 PM
Whoa, 3 in a row :sdeek:


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 24, 2018, 07:59:13 PM
He demonstrated with his lies under oath that he subscribes to the "deny, deny, deny" school of thought. He's a pro at it.

https://twitter.com/lizzieohreally/status/1044371713931309056
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 24, 2018, 08:06:22 PM
What an absurd thing to say.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 24, 2018, 08:10:40 PM
7 posts on one page....FSD really wants this assaulter on the high court!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 24, 2018, 08:16:34 PM
How many assaults and rapes did you keep secret and fail to report, phil?

You went to college, didn't you?

That's the premise these subhumans are employing.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 24, 2018, 08:45:32 PM
7 EIGHT posts on one page....FSD really wants this assaulter on the high court!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 24, 2018, 08:49:06 PM
Deflect-o-meter: Level 9

Note: we need a deflect-o-meter emoji
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 25, 2018, 08:07:28 AM
More "deny, deny, deny" type lying.

https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/1044572517904592897
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 25, 2018, 10:14:59 AM
haha

https://twitter.com/skantrow/status/1044596637950251008
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 25, 2018, 03:10:41 PM
Okay, he's not always a great liar.

https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/1044573346111934464
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 25, 2018, 04:13:28 PM
the pivot to "well everyone drank underage" will be instantaneous
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 25, 2018, 04:26:38 PM
Desperate Dems are desperate.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 25, 2018, 04:27:16 PM
We still on for some testimony on Thursday?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 25, 2018, 05:08:57 PM
Desperate Dems are desperate.

So the drinking age wasn't raised then?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 25, 2018, 05:25:06 PM
this is good.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-allegations-yearbook-male-bonding.html
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 25, 2018, 08:39:49 PM
Desperate Dems are desperate.

It's AMAZE
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 25, 2018, 08:45:47 PM
Odds this lady actually testifies Thursday?  50/50?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 25, 2018, 08:46:08 PM
this is good.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-allegations-yearbook-male-bonding.html

Interesting for sure not to mention creepy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 25, 2018, 08:50:21 PM
this is good.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-allegations-yearbook-male-bonding.html

Interesting for sure not to mention creepy.

Tomorrow from Slate: BK is probably a closet homosexual.

Libtard playbook, page 3, paragraph 4.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 25, 2018, 09:08:39 PM
Odds this lady actually testifies Thursday?  50/50?

I think it’s better than that
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2018, 06:52:45 AM
lol

https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/status/1044912894117392385
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2018, 08:33:18 AM
Desperate Dems are desperate.

So the drinking age wasn't raised then?

If you were already 18 when the law changed you were probably grandfathered.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2018, 08:46:10 AM
He was 17 when it changed
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2018, 09:39:30 AM
Literally nobody GAF
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 26, 2018, 09:42:43 AM
Literally nobody GAF

why lie about it then?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2018, 09:43:26 AM
Just weird kav keeps lying about crap no one cares about
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2018, 10:07:08 AM
 :lol:

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1044559991842254848
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2018, 10:22:45 AM
getting messier rn
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 26, 2018, 10:49:29 AM
She has to be trolling to say something that obviously hypocritical
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 26, 2018, 10:54:05 AM
We are witnessing a mob lynching.
The mob is willing to trample the presumption of innocence into the ground in order to protect its power.
The Democrats use the courts to institute its wishes or to protect its dubious policies previously established by a liberal court.
From Tucker Carlson, Fox News:
"“It’s worth saying that most Democrats in Washington don’t really hate Kavanaugh personally,” Carlson explained. “He’s hardly an abrasive character, as you learned if you watched his interview with Martha [MacCallum] last night. There’s nothing personal about any of this. Kavanaugh stands between the Democratic Party and the power it seeks. He is in the way. He must be crushed – in this case, along with his wife and his two little girls. Sorry, that’s the cost of winning. No omelets without some broken eggs.”
Power is more important than humanity to Democrats.   This ruthless attitude is one short turn from going down the road of socialistic control, the ultimate power of the State.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 26, 2018, 11:02:40 AM
welp.

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1044980036112207872
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 26, 2018, 11:30:11 AM
please don't pull him, pubs.  we need a couple more weeks of this for it to set and harden.

https://twitter.com/DavidLauter/status/1044904608936730624
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 26, 2018, 11:53:44 AM
Newest allegation seems like more of a bombshell than the prior two. Will be interesting to hear Kav’s testimony tomorrow. If this girl had really been to over a dozen house parties with him, seems likely he’d recognize her so we’ll see what he says. Should also be a lot easier to find corroborating witnesses with the detail she provides.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 26, 2018, 12:12:35 PM
the nice thing about the swetnick accusation is that it's not possible to reconcile it with anything kavanaugh has said, so they're going to have to call her a lying whore.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 26, 2018, 12:26:48 PM
the nice thing about the swetnick accusation is that it's not possible to reconcile it with anything kavanaugh has said, so they're going to have to call her a lying whore.

If the two people she told near the time of the event come forward and corroborate her story, I don't see that happening.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on September 26, 2018, 12:29:23 PM
the nice thing about the swetnick accusation is that it's not possible to reconcile it with anything kavanaugh has said, so they're going to have to call her a lying whore.

If the two people she told near the time of the event come forward and corroborate her story, I don't see that happening.

People have corroborated Ramirez's account.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 26, 2018, 12:35:21 PM
I missed that, bucket.  When did that come out?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 26, 2018, 12:35:44 PM
the nice thing about the swetnick accusation is that it's not possible to reconcile it with anything kavanaugh has said, so they're going to have to call her a lying whore.

If the two people she told near the time of the event come forward and corroborate her story, I don't see that happening.

oh, they will.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2018, 01:18:03 PM
Anyone else find it odd that these people are demanding the FBI investigate their own claims, like they aren't even sure whether they're telling the truth???

Also, lol at Mike Davis (hardcore lib) ignoring The gigolo attorney.

I wonder whose behind door #4????  The Duke lacrosse victim????
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2018, 01:19:45 PM
the nice thing about the swetnick accusation is that it's not possible to reconcile it with anything kavanaugh has said, so they're going to have to call her a lying whore.

The nice thing about Swrtnick and Ramirez is that the democrats don't even think they're credible. Which means an incredibly low bar hasn't even been cleared.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 26, 2018, 01:57:25 PM
swetnick, a college student by this time, got raped at a high school party by some high schoolers who she'd witnessed raping other women on at least 10 occasions
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 26, 2018, 01:58:51 PM
her story is so bad that i've put on my conspiracy hat and now believe she's operating on behalf of republicans
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 26, 2018, 02:16:40 PM
swetnick, a college student by this time, got raped at a high school party by some high schoolers who she'd witnessed raping other women on at least 10 occasions

I was figuring she was at least three grades older than him and thought, "Would it be common for a chick that much older to be at a party with younger guys that many times?".  I have no idea how they might have partied back then on the East Coast but it would be nice if there was a little more color to these parties. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 26, 2018, 03:22:04 PM
oh, they will.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 26, 2018, 04:12:16 PM
https://twitter.com/aterkel/status/1045027468988551174
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 26, 2018, 04:16:57 PM
For those still contemplating the FBI, just remember that Joe "Chester the Molester" Biden told the world during the Clarence Thomas hearings that FBI reports are worthless. 

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 26, 2018, 04:19:28 PM
Man I knew DC was swampy but even their elite parties sound gross af.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 26, 2018, 04:23:45 PM
This is all great fun, merrick garland has to be cackling and rolling a blunt right about now
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2018, 05:58:52 PM
https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/1045081423340802048
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2018, 06:00:16 PM
her story is so bad that i've put on my conspiracy hat and now believe she's operating on behalf of republicans

That's what I said about the Ramirez story!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 26, 2018, 06:03:09 PM
eff.  that fourth one may finally get them to cut this short.  angry voters vote, jubilant voters don't vote.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 26, 2018, 06:53:01 PM
https://twitter.com/theonion/status/1044975158644146177
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: ednksu on September 26, 2018, 07:08:28 PM
Anyone been to Rhode Island?



Also any tips on nuking $60k-$200k worth of debt in one year on a modest DC salary?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 26, 2018, 07:25:59 PM
$60k worth of debt should be pretty easy to pay off on a modest DC salary.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 26, 2018, 07:43:24 PM
Glad to see Resident LibBots now suddenly very concerned about stuff that mostly happened before they were born or when they were really really young.

Pivot!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 26, 2018, 08:31:24 PM
Looks like Dr Ford issued written testimony today and is going to go through with verbal testimony tomorrow as far as I can tell.  I didn’t think she would actually follow through with the whole thing to be honest.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 26, 2018, 08:36:10 PM
Looks like Dr Ford issued written testimony today and is going to go through with verbal testimony tomorrow as far as I can tell.  I didn’t think she would actually follow through with the whole thing to be honest.

I didn't either especially with the news today but hope she does go through with it. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on September 26, 2018, 08:41:41 PM
Glad to see Resident LibBots now suddenly very concerned about stuff that mostly happened before they were born or when they were really really young.

Pivot!

You're right. It's the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2018, 08:44:41 PM
Looks like Dr Ford issued written testimony today and is going to go through with verbal testimony tomorrow as far as I can tell.  I didn’t think she would actually follow through with the whole thing to be honest.

I think she'll back out at the last minute.  She has nobody to back up her story.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 26, 2018, 08:47:09 PM
Glad to see Resident LibBots now suddenly very concerned about stuff that mostly happened before they were born or when they were really really young.

Pivot!

You're right. It's the exact same thing.

You made a sexual predator a pillar of the Democratic party, whenever it's brought up all I read is how all that stuff "happened before I was born" and/or "I was like 8 when that all went down".   I would say "alleged sexual predator" but given the tone of the day, Bill Clinton is a sexual predator, molester, and rapist.





Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2018, 08:50:07 PM


I wonder whose behind door #45????  The Duke lacrosse victim????
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 26, 2018, 08:52:10 PM


I wonder whose behind door #45????  The Duke lacrosse victim????

 :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 26, 2018, 08:57:42 PM
Vinneccy (ex hubby) made clear that he did not believe her story.

“I have a lot of facts, evidence, that what she’s saying is not true at all,” he said. “I would rather speak to my attorney first before saying more."

Avenatti said called the reporting “outrageous”  :lol: (ftp://:lol:)and accused the press of “digging into the past”  :lol: :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol: :lol:)of a woman who stepped forward and is willing to testify under oath.

“I am disgusted by the fact that the press is attacking a sexual assault victim,” :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:) Avenatti said.

When asked if the allegation of a restraining order were true, Avenatti said: “I don’t know one way or another,” adding he would research it further.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 26, 2018, 09:04:27 PM
Anyone been to Rhode Island?

Also any tips on nuking $60k-$200k worth of debt in one year on a modest DC salary?

apparently his parents are more than ordinarily rich, so all of the money stuff prolly just comes down to his parents giving him money.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 26, 2018, 09:06:01 PM
i told you, 'ophe.  she's just another lying whore.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 26, 2018, 09:15:50 PM
i told you, 'ophe.  she's just another lying whore.

Yep, another totally credible accuser.  I'm glad no one wants to listen to all of his classmates that back him.  He is a wolf in sheep's clothing no doubt.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on September 26, 2018, 09:19:34 PM
i told you, 'ophe.  she's just another lying whore.

Yep, another totally credible accuser.  I'm glad no one wants to listen to all of his classmates that back him.  He is a wolf in sheep's clothing no doubt.

Kind of strange some would recant
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2018, 09:21:13 PM
i told you, 'ophe.  she's just another lying whore.

Not sure about whore, but as to liar, if it looks like a duck....
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2018, 09:23:25 PM
Looks like Dr Ford issued written testimony today and is going to go through with verbal testimony tomorrow as far as I can tell.  I didn’t think she would actually follow through with the whole thing to be honest.

I think she'll back out at the last minute.  She has nobody to back up her story.

https://nypost.com/2018/09/25/eight-big-problems-for-christine-blasey-fords-story/

She could be delusional  :dunno:

Given the fact she regularly sees a shrink and has like a half dozen post graduate psych degrees, it's almost a given
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2018, 09:24:12 PM
Anyone been to Rhode Island?


Already a recanted story. Dems are running with anything.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/jeffrey-catalan-newport-rhode-island-kavanaugh/ (https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/jeffrey-catalan-newport-rhode-island-kavanaugh/)
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 26, 2018, 09:36:30 PM
i told you, 'ophe.  she's just another lying whore.

To be fair, I said IF the two people she told about the event came forward to corroborate it. I assume they will, I don’t think she would have included that detail if she wasn’t prepared to substantiate it.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2018, 08:37:55 AM
How bizarre is it that the Dems are enraged that pubs aren't allowing the proverbial one-armed men a forum to controvert Ford's allegations?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/27/ahead-pivotal-senate-hearing-witnesses-surface-to-say-christine-ford-may-have-mistaken-them-for-kavanaugh.amp.html
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: ChiComCat on September 27, 2018, 09:11:09 AM
Glad to see Resident LibBots now suddenly very concerned about stuff that mostly happened before they were born or when they were really really young.

Pivot!

You're right. It's the exact same thing.

You made a sexual predator a pillar of the Democratic party, whenever it's brought up all I read is how all that stuff "happened before I was born" and/or "I was like 8 when that all went down".   I would say "alleged sexual predator" but given the tone of the day, Bill Clinton is a sexual predator, molester, and rapist.


I don't know how you believe your whataboutism anymore given that you've posted an article about how Dem's don't like Bill anymore (yet you somehow misinterpreted it). 
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 27, 2018, 09:14:39 AM
Jfc Grassley can't rough ridin' read, and it's annoying the crap out of me.


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2018, 09:21:20 AM
He’s from Iowa, temper your expectations.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 09:46:47 AM
Yikes
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 10:34:39 AM
This is pretty damaging for kavdawg
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2018, 10:37:38 AM
Has he gone or just her so far?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 27, 2018, 10:39:30 AM
This prosecutor is putting me to sleep. Guess she's not used to examining a witness in 5-minute chunks.

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2018, 11:37:42 AM
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/campaign-wire-2018-midterms/card/1537991168

Social Media:  Great as long as it's anti-Repulican
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 11:46:46 AM
Americans are allowed to influence American elections.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: ChiComCat on September 27, 2018, 11:51:23 AM
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/campaign-wire-2018-midterms/card/1537991168

Social Media:  Great as long as it's anti-Repulican

Now you don’t know the difference between transparently buying ads and Russian troll farms?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 11:51:44 AM
Lol dax
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2018, 11:58:35 AM
Yeah guys, keep thinking the calls to regulate social media are just about the troll farms.

My gawd, do you guys think for yourselves, like at all?


Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2018, 12:09:00 PM
I don’t think we learned anything new with her testimony today as far as I can tell. I think Kavs gets on the stand and says I didn’t do it, and then they move to a vote?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: ChiComCat on September 27, 2018, 12:14:01 PM
Yeah guys, keep thinking the calls to regulate social media are just about the troll farms.

My gawd, do you guys think for yourselves, like at all?
You think they aren’t selling ads to Republicans?

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2018, 12:20:32 PM
Yeah guys, keep thinking the calls to regulate social media are just about the troll farms.

My gawd, do you guys think for yourselves, like at all?
You think they aren’t selling ads to Republicans?

Why would you even take that tact?

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 12:24:55 PM
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1045350599166955520

Got her ass
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 27, 2018, 12:30:37 PM
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1045350599166955520

Got her ass

I'm not sure I understand why they're going in the direction they are? Politically biased and based I get but there are more questions I would love to know.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
I think they have 49 votes and need Murkowski for 50.  She might be able to get some real tasty leverage from this hearing for future assurances.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 12:36:47 PM
a badass would do this.

https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1045350600236564481
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 12:51:31 PM
Is Kennedy’s retirement official? My understanding is his main motivation for stepping down was the promise Kav would take his place (just rumors, of course).
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 12:56:08 PM
https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/1045360677408395264

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 27, 2018, 01:12:13 PM
Hearing why she first gave this information to 2 of her representatives, to let someone know about Kav before he was selected, certainly gives her more credibility, but really throws shade on the 2 reps for not getting the information to the whitehouse as she asked. Once Kav was picked, they obviously decided to sit on it until the eve of the confirmation hearing. Not surprising.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 01:40:47 PM
 :lol:

https://twitter.com/JosephPatrice/status/1045346100465545216
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 01:50:19 PM
Yeah, but who paid for it?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 02:19:46 PM
This opening statement was obviously written by the white house

Amazing how butthurt Republicans still are about Bork, they are still angry that unethical racist wasn't confirmed.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 27, 2018, 02:20:39 PM
Oh he mad...


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: 8manpick on September 27, 2018, 02:23:15 PM
Kav: "I'm not a a sexual assualter, one of my best friends was sexually assaulted"
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2018, 02:24:36 PM
Omg he’s crying
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 02:25:25 PM
Kav: "I'M NOT A SEXUAL ASSUALTER, ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS WAS SEXUALLY ASSUALTED"

fixed
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Brock Landers on September 27, 2018, 02:27:42 PM
Omfg.  Kav seems very stable indeed.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 02:35:01 PM
not sure his - "i got away with it for too long for it to be plausible that i did this" is as convincing as he thinks it is in a post-sandusky, post-nassar, post-catholic church world.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 02:37:19 PM
if "tried to rape rando girl from a lesser prep" isn't pencilled in on my calendar, you must acquit.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 02:42:49 PM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1045397137222184963
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2018, 02:44:18 PM
He’s a really bad actor, my goodness.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2018, 02:45:21 PM
Hearing why she first gave this information to 2 of her representatives, to let someone know about Kav before he was selected, certainly gives her more credibility, but really throws shade on the 2 reps for not getting the information to the whitehouse as she asked. Once Kav was picked, they obviously decided to sit on it until the eve of the confirmation hearing. Not surprising.

yeah, waiting until the eve was straight politics and I think BK did a good job of pointing out that this is going to set a new precedent for this stuff that no one is going to enjoy
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2018, 02:47:56 PM
Yeah guys, keep thinking the calls to regulate social media are just about the troll farms.

My gawd, do you guys think for yourselves, like at all?
You think they aren’t selling ads to Republicans?

Why would you even take that tact?

because it's not whiny and moronic
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2018, 02:50:02 PM
I actually think he did a good job.  Might be in minority
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 02:58:00 PM
I actually think he did a good job.  Might be in minority

i think many committed pubs will respond to the blame the dems message and tone.  he's targeting a narrow audience, but it probably hit them.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2018, 03:01:03 PM
I actually think he did a good job.  Might be in minority

i think many committed pubs will respond to the blame the dems message and tone.  he's targeting a narrow audience, but it probably hit them.

He has a fairly decent point.  There was just a ton of very clearly made up stuff thrown out in last 72 hours.  They went pretty nuclear
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2018, 03:01:43 PM
yep

https://twitter.com/jameshamblin/status/1045401489089458176
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 27, 2018, 03:03:20 PM
I think both of them honestly believe they are telling the truth.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 27, 2018, 03:07:36 PM
Somebody get a body bag for Feinstein.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 03:07:58 PM
This dude loves beer
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2018, 03:08:14 PM
It's such a mess.  Our country should be so much better
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 03:08:58 PM
This Republican-picked questioner is doing a WAY better job at interviewing Kav then the Democratic senators. They seem completely uninterested in whether Kav is telling the truth.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 03:12:33 PM
Gather around, family, while I show you my calendar
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Trim on September 27, 2018, 03:14:44 PM
It's such a mess.  Our country should be so much better

The supreme court concept is pretty mumped.  It's entirely a game of who can live or work way past when they should have and who's in charge when death/retirement finally happens.

Wow, it's KSU football.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2018, 03:15:21 PM
It's such a mess.  Our country should be so much better

The supreme court concept is pretty mumped.  It's entirely a game of who can live or work way past when they should have and who's in charge when death/retirement finally happens.

Wow, it's KSU football.

omg
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 03:16:34 PM
He has a fairly decent point.  There was just a ton of very clearly made up stuff thrown out in last 72 hours.  They went pretty nuclear

1.  such as what?  imo, there is nothing clearly made up about any of the three accounts accusing him of sexual misconduct.
2.  what value does the fact (if you consider it a fact) that there has recently been clearly made up stuff thrown out have in determining the veracity of blasey ford's account?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 03:17:48 PM
haha.

yep

https://twitter.com/jameshamblin/status/1045401489089458176
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 03:19:36 PM
Gather around, family, while I show you my calendar

i get that he doesn't have much to work with.  but the fact that he's spending time on his rough ridin' calendar as if it means anything should be disqualifying on intellectual grounds if not on morals.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 03:32:04 PM
He won't answer any questions
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 03:33:32 PM
He’s not putting on evidence, he’s answering questions...
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 03:34:54 PM
he’s answering questions...

No he's not
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 27, 2018, 03:38:30 PM
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/27/17910016/brett-kavanaugh-christine-blasey-ford-white-evangelicals-poll-support

Quote
Forty-eight percent of white evangelicals say that embattled Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh should be confirmed even if the allegations of sexual assault against him are true.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 03:39:03 PM
he’s answering questions...

No he's not

he answers questions from the pub surrogate, runs out the clock on dems.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 27, 2018, 03:42:21 PM
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/27/17910016/brett-kavanaugh-christine-blasey-ford-white-evangelicals-poll-support

Quote
Forty-eight percent of white evangelicals say that embattled Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh should be confirmed even if the allegations of sexual assault against him are true.

Dax is firmly in this 48%.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 03:44:08 PM
Grassley is such a caricature
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2018, 03:49:03 PM
Lindsay Graham lolololol
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 03:49:59 PM
we need much more of emotional pub senators talking about how hellish and unfair it is to be accused of sexual assault.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 03:51:53 PM
Gather around, family, while I show you my calendar

i get that he doesn't have much to work with.  but the fact that he's spending time on his rough ridin' calendar as if it means anything should be disqualifying on intellectual grounds if not on morals.

Gather around, senators, while I show you his yearbook.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 27, 2018, 03:58:05 PM
My boss just came through complaining about them asking Kav how many beers it takes to get him drunk.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 27, 2018, 03:58:51 PM
Lmao at the boffed answer
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 27, 2018, 04:00:56 PM
Did boofing mean something else in the '80s?


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 04:01:10 PM
I am very confused. Kav has to know how bad it looks to act belligerent toward Dems. He’s saying a lot of the wrong things for a guy who wants to get confirmed.

I have no idea if he’s doing it intentionally to show he’s more concerned with clearing his name than getting confirmed, or if he just sincerely DNGAF about winning anyone over at this point.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 27, 2018, 04:01:52 PM
I like how he claimed that the devil's triangle is a drinking game.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2018, 04:02:02 PM
Gather around, family, while I show you my calendar

i get that he doesn't have much to work with.  but the fact that he's spending time on his rough ridin' calendar as if it means anything should be disqualifying on intellectual grounds if not on morals.

Gather around, senators, while I show you his yearbook.

https://twitter.com/smencimer/status/1045416216893030401
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: CHONGS on September 27, 2018, 04:03:40 PM
I am very confused. Kav has to know how bad it looks to act belligerent toward Dems. He’s saying a lot of the wrong things for a guy who wants to get confirmed.

I have no idea if he’s doing it intentionally to show he’s more concerned with clearing his name than getting confirmed, or if he just sincerely DNGAF about winning anyone over at this point.
His audience isn't Dems.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 04:03:58 PM
Gather around, family, while I show you my calendar

i get that he doesn't have much to work with.  but the fact that he's spending time on his rough ridin' calendar as if it means anything should be disqualifying on intellectual grounds if not on morals.

Gather around, senators, while I show you his yearbook.

discussion of the yearbook entry is relevant as the entry appears to memorialize some behaviors that judge has at various times attempted to deny and/or minimize.  it speaks both to his credibility and to the nature of his social interactions at the time he was accused of having assaulted blasey ford.

discussion of the calendar may have relevance in some other context, but has none with regard to whether judge was at a social gathering unless you believe he recorded everywhere he went and everything he did - a belief that is patently ridiculous.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 04:04:45 PM
I mean, the obvious answer is: yes, get the FBI to investigate if it would shut you guys up.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2018, 04:05:38 PM
I am very confused. Kav has to know how bad it looks to act belligerent toward Dems. He’s saying a lot of the wrong things for a guy who wants to get confirmed.

I have no idea if he’s doing it intentionally to show he’s more concerned with clearing his name than getting confirmed, or if he just sincerely DNGAF about winning anyone over at this point.
His audience isn't Dems.

It’s like literally one or two people
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 04:06:17 PM
I mean, the obvious answer is: yes, get the FBI to investigate if it would shut you guys up.

yeah, no crap.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 04:08:14 PM
who ever came up with the idea of having him answer "i dunno, have you?" whenever asked about drinking should be fired or shot or something.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 27, 2018, 04:09:08 PM
who ever came up with the idea of him answer "i dunno, have you?" whenever asked about drinking should be fired or shot or something.

Yeah, that was bad.


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Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 04:10:31 PM

discussion of the yearbook entry is relevant as the entry appears to memorialize some behaviors that judge has at various times attempted to deny and/or minimize.  it speaks both to his credibility and to the nature of his social interactions at the time he was accused of having assaulted blasey ford.

A calendar that includes various social interactions, study dates, sports practices, etc. sure seems like it, well I’ll just let you say it


appears to memorialize some behaviors that judge has at various times attempted to deny and/or minimize (and/or emphasize).  it speaks both to his credibility and to the nature of his social interactions at the time he was accused of having assaulted blasey ford.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2018, 04:11:38 PM
How many 15 minute breaks do these part time workers need?!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 04:13:33 PM
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1045406055117860866

His audience loves the stupidity tho
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 04:14:26 PM
who ever came up with the idea of him answer "i dunno, have you?" whenever asked about drinking should be fired or shot or something.

Yeah, that was bad.


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It’s another WTF thing about his testimony. I’m thinking he refused to be prepped (whether that makes him more or less believable here, I’m still not sure). They say lawyers make some of the worst witnesses. He’s exhibit A.

But refusing to answer questions with such obvious answers. I don’t get it.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 04:15:30 PM
A calendar that includes various social interactions, study dates, sports practices, etc. sure seems like it, well I’ll just let you say it


appears to memorialize some behaviors that judge has at various times attempted to deny and/or minimize (and/or emphasize).  it speaks both to his credibility and to the nature of his social interactions at the time he was accused of having assaulted blasey ford.

it could be relevant in that context, but that is not the context in which it was used.  he used it to to try and assert that it could be inferred that he did not attend a social gathering with blasey ford because no such gathering was explicitly noted on the calendar.

i say explicitly, because some people have asserted than a notation including judge and "pj"s names might refer to the night of the alleged assault.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 04:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1045406055117860866

His audience loves the stupidity tho

I guess that’s the answer. He thinks as long as Trump doesn’t pull him he’s gonna cruise. Republicans must be confident they’ve got the 50 they need. I mean, does anyone not expect Flake to fall in line?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 04:20:21 PM
was the plan to abandon the surrogate and let the pub senators back into the ring halfway through kavanaugh, or was that an audible?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 04:22:09 PM
I think she was doing too good of a job interrogating him. When they realized Dems didn’t really put in the work to ask the same level of questions, they were probably like, why the heck are we doing their job for them?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 04:29:56 PM
https://twitter.com/verygooster/status/1045408895441797121
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 04:32:53 PM
https://twitter.com/verygooster/status/1045408895441797121

Why focus on just the women? The dude second from the left looks like he was having a stroke.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 04:36:53 PM
https://twitter.com/davidenrich/status/1045416955522535425

The Fffffffourth thing was consistent though
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 04:39:43 PM
I think she was doing too good of a job interrogating him. When they realized Dems didn’t really put in the work to ask the same level of questions, they were probably like, why the heck are we doing their job for them?

if that was the thinking, i think it was a mistake.  i don't think he can just stonewall all questions.  he could better get away with evading the dems' questions if he is also seen calmly answering questions from the surrogate.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 04:41:26 PM
he's doing better now.  if anyone was in doubt that he might get belligerent when drunk, though.  i think he's removed that doubt.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 04:43:08 PM
I think she was doing too good of a job interrogating him. When they realized Dems didn’t really put in the work to ask the same level of questions, they were probably like, why the heck are we doing their job for them?

if that was the thinking, i think it was a mistake.  i don't think he can just stonewall all questions.  he could better get away with evading the dems' questions if he is also seen calmly answering questions from the surrogate.

He’s not stonewalling all questions. He’s still answering softballs by pubs. I don’t think the surrogate was asking easy questions.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 04:43:42 PM
apparently it was planned, not an audible.

https://twitter.com/BrandonLRichard/status/1045417394183852033
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 04:44:20 PM
smdh

https://twitter.com/janestreet/status/1045424908745023489
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 04:45:57 PM
Looks like they also want to take away a potential counter by Dems that “why should we need to ask about the events in question? This person is already doing that.”
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 27, 2018, 04:46:35 PM
I like how it describes the game as "enjoyed by friends of Judge Brett Kavanaugh."
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2018, 04:47:23 PM
https://twitter.com/davidenrich/status/1045416955522535425

He lies SO much.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 04:47:57 PM
I like how it says describes the game as "enjoyed by friends of Judge Brett Kavanaugh."

Yeah, it actually makes it much lolier
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 04:48:12 PM
Guys, in fairness, it is entirely consistent for the guy to say he was a nerd in HS while simultaneously mistakenly believing he knows the meaning of terms like devil’s triangle.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 04:48:30 PM
He’s not stonewalling all questions. He’s still answering softballs by pubs. I don’t think the surrogate was asking easy questions.

yeah, my feeling, though, is that although people intellectually know that the surrogate was a creature of the pubs, and carrying out a partisan plan for them, they do not see her as being as partisan as the pub senators.  responding to her questions plays more like responding to impartial or even adversarial questions while he gets little to no credit for responding to pub senator questions.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 27, 2018, 04:49:51 PM
Guys, in fairness, it is entirely consistent for the guy to say he was a nerd in HS while simultaneously mistakenly believing he knows the meaning of terms like devil’s triangle.

It's also fair to assume that the term means the same thing as everyone else in the world knows it to mean, considering it's sort of what he's being accused of.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 04:52:39 PM
like, i get that pubs are all worked up about what they believe was the dems holding this back and springing it late.  and i get that taling that up probably plays well on fox.

but, i really don't think the "too late, the buzzer already sounded." defense is going to mean anything if people believe blasey ford's account.  like people that don't think he should still be confirmed even if he did it.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 27, 2018, 04:57:37 PM
I always love a good Mr. Crapo sighting. Best name in the Senate game.


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: ChiComCat on September 27, 2018, 05:06:47 PM
I think Feinstein pulled a shitty move and should probably be held to account for it.  That's completely irrelevant to what should happen to Kavanaugh though.  I thought it was really offensive in speaking back to Sen Klobuchar the way he did.  He apologized but that rage in refusing to answer the question was just terrible.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 05:09:16 PM
Yeah, I'd love to know how a federal judge would handle someone with the same reaction after a question in their court
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 05:19:13 PM
This 5 min per senator thing is so dumb. Why does everyone have to talk. Just let 1-3 people go in depth.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2018, 05:21:14 PM
https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/1045437353781792768?s=21


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 05:30:16 PM
Ted cruz is a sociopath
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 05:31:04 PM
This 5 min per senator thing is so dumb.

it's so stupid.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2018, 05:36:19 PM
I like that everyone on the committee gets an opportunity.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 05:44:22 PM
I think Feinstein pulled a shitty move and should probably be held to account for it.

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1045441295282556928
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 27, 2018, 05:53:09 PM
How in the hell do you dispute facts prvoided by Kavanaugh
Ford mistaken.  Kavanaugh could not have hunched attacked her is he wasn't in DC.
Democrats looked stoopid.  One Senaturd spent 5 minutes questioning Kavanaugh about carting and barfing in HS ...... sheesh.
Graham for President.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 05:54:36 PM
That’s meaningless to me. Of course the staff wouldn’t leak the letter to the media. They leak it to someone else who leaks it to the media.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 27, 2018, 06:00:00 PM
Feinstein didn't know what the hell was going on at all.  What a total embarrassment.  Also, why was she always late back from break?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2018, 06:01:23 PM
So vote next week?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 06:12:47 PM
Feinstein didn't know what the hell was going on at all.  What a total embarrassment.  Also, why was she always late back from break?

she's like 90.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2018, 06:16:33 PM
She recently got duped by an agent of the Chinese govt so the incompetence angle is a pretty valid one.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2018, 06:20:07 PM
I think Feinstein pulled a shitty move and should probably be held to account for it.

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1045441295282556928

I guess Ford was lying about who she sent the letter to then, or maybe can't remember
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2018, 06:22:14 PM
How many skis does kavdawg pound tonight?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 27, 2018, 06:22:39 PM
How many skis does kavdawg pound tonight?
Let's have a look at the chart!

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 27, 2018, 06:26:08 PM
I think Feinstein pulled a shitty move and should probably be held to account for it.

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1045441295282556928

"I asked my staff and they said they didn't leak it"   :lol:

They also didn't give the letter to the Whitehouse as they were asked by Ms Ford.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2018, 06:30:04 PM
Rs are SUPER whiny about all this.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
A calendar that includes various social interactions, study dates, sports practices, etc. sure seems like it, well I’ll just let you say it


appears to memorialize some behaviors that judge has at various times attempted to deny and/or minimize (and/or emphasize).  it speaks both to his credibility and to the nature of his social interactions at the time he was accused of having assaulted blasey ford.

it could be relevant in that context, but that is not the context in which it was used.  he used it to to try and assert that it could be inferred that he did not attend a social gathering with blasey ford because no such gathering was explicitly noted on the calendar.

i say explicitly, because some people have asserted than a notation including judge and "pj"s names might refer to the night of the alleged assault.

Contemporaneous notes are absolutely admissible and typically fabulous evidence. The yearbook thing is shitty circumstantial evidence of nothing but libtard inferences.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2018, 06:53:58 PM
Lindsay (sp?) Graham's rant was AMAZE  :love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2018, 06:55:57 PM
Lindsay (sp?) Graham's rant was AMAZE  :love: :love: :love:

He certainly has mastered the art of theatrics and hysteria. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2018, 07:14:34 PM
Seriously, it's a LOTTA rough ridin' lying.

https://twitter.com/PaulSzoldra/status/1045448956468027393
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 07:18:01 PM
That’s meaningless to me. Of course the staff wouldn’t leak the letter to the media. They leak it to someone else who leaks it to the media.

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1045452713679564803
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 07:24:44 PM
this contradicts the tweet i posted earlier, and seems more credible.  it was an audible.

https://twitter.com/WaPoSean/status/1045449833077780481
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2018, 07:39:21 PM
Everyone knows that the only reason Mitchell was there is that it's just not possible for those Republican committee members to refrain from being total assholes when questioning a woman. Once Ford was gone, they no longer needed Mitchell.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2018, 07:41:55 PM
I mean, this happens literally EVERY TIME. It's as though it's just pure contempt for women.

https://twitter.com/morninggloria/status/1045327244598464513
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2018, 07:48:07 PM
Anyone else surprised the demotards didn't ask about the two other "credible" accusations???

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2018, 07:49:18 PM
Honestly never heard of a "devil's triangle" until itt, and still have no idea what it is
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2018, 08:06:26 PM
https://twitter.com/TrancewithMe/status/1045467849228046336
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2018, 08:58:06 PM
https://twitter.com/Comey/status/1045486374273658880
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on September 27, 2018, 09:02:26 PM
https://twitter.com/rachaelmbade/status/1045472193176629249

So true
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 27, 2018, 09:18:41 PM
most of them are trying very hard not to call blasey ford a liar, but almost all of them are acting as if she is a liar.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2018, 09:23:23 PM
Feinstein's proclamations about not leaking are  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Go get another Government contract for your hubby . . .
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2018, 09:26:53 PM
Ford is a liar. Her story is not only uncorroborated, the witnesses she chose actually swore it wasn't true.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2018, 09:36:30 PM
She could make a fortune as an actress if she’s lying. If you don’t believe her account, the only reasonable explanation IMO is that she’s crazy. I think there is a lot more evidence you could point to in order to support that theory as opposed to her working with the Dems to bring down Kav.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2018, 09:46:00 PM
Sees a shrink: check
Graduate degree in psychology: check
Never Trumper: check
Believes things other people say aren't true: check

Yeah, I'd say she's crazy, and a liar
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiet on September 27, 2018, 10:23:25 PM
When do they vote on this stud
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 27, 2018, 10:28:34 PM
Imagine his college bros today playing drinking games to "I enjoy beer" comments and back slapping about old times running a train on stupid girls....jamming to Lonely Island "not gay" on replay.

high five!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiet on September 27, 2018, 10:41:58 PM
You know they are gonna call him the little engine that could now
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiet on September 27, 2018, 10:50:22 PM
America becoming this tolerant is pretty awesome, first an open pusshound becomes America’s Stud, and now the supremes are going to have an unapologetic booze man who loves so many people he can’t remember them all.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2018, 10:54:52 PM
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1045520480889901056
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiet on September 27, 2018, 11:05:03 PM
 :lol: too bad they don’t have any say
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiet on September 27, 2018, 11:32:55 PM
Somebody shop Kav’s face on Svi’s body as he one dribbles from half court for the game-winner
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 28, 2018, 08:03:09 AM
I’m a bit surprised they’re still not having the FBI do a background check. Republicans got Democrats to overcommit to that position yesterday despite everyone knowing it won’t  turn up anything.

It definitely looks at this point they’d rather confirm Kav than improve their political positions.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2018, 09:03:42 AM
Why do Republicans reward lying under oath so often?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 28, 2018, 09:16:47 AM
Why do Republicans reward lying under oath so often?

because it's a garbage party, hth
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 28, 2018, 09:23:59 AM
Why do Republicans reward lying under oath so often?

What reward is Ford getting?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 28, 2018, 09:29:41 AM
Lindsay (sp?) Graham's rant was AMAZE  :love: :love: :love:


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/09/27/sen_graham_explodes_on_dems_at_kavanaugh_hearing_most_despicable_thing_ive_seen_in_politics.html

 :love: :love:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 09:37:03 AM
Haha

https://twitter.com/maya_sen/status/1045677008469073922
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 10:12:05 AM
i didn't realize that the person called squi who drawled out the f in eff was also the person who whelan said was kavanaugh's doppelganger and also the person that blasey ford said introduced her to kavanaugh.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 28, 2018, 10:33:50 AM
i'm guessing this has already been discussed, but is it weird to anyone except me that the republicans are turning multiple accusations of sexual assault and attempted rape into a partisan issue? also, why would kavanaugh not want a quick fbi investigation? I would want everyone in the world investigating this if I knew I was innocent.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: ChiComCat on September 28, 2018, 10:37:59 AM
i'm guessing this has already been discussed, but is it weird to anyone except me that the republicans are turning multiple accusations of sexual assault and attempted rape into a partisan issue? also, why would kavanaugh not want a quick fbi investigation? I would want everyone in the world investigating this if I knew I was innocent.

I think they want to get this over with as quickly as possible to keep it from either A) being pushed into the next year when the Republicans may not have a majority or B) becoming an issue that encourages women to vote.

The more cynical answer would be that they don't want Mark Judge to have to answer questions and would rather rely on his statement made with the assistance of Republican staffers.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: DQ12 on September 28, 2018, 10:41:23 AM
Yeah the idea is they want to push this through before midterms
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 10:42:40 AM
why would kavanaugh not want a quick fbi investigation? I would want everyone in the world investigating this if I knew I was innocent.

A point I read online: an FBI investigation could probably never prove that Kavdog did it, but could realistically disprove Ford's allegation.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2018, 10:44:15 AM
why would kavanaugh not want a quick fbi investigation? I would want everyone in the world investigating this if I knew I was innocent.

A point I read online: an FBI investigation could probably never prove that Kavdog did it, but could realistically disprove Ford's allegation.

What information did this article say the FBI could find that hasn’t been covered to date?

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 10:44:21 AM
it weird to anyone except me that the republicans are turning multiple accusations of sexual assault and attempted rape into a partisan issue?

Not surprised at all. It's Trump's party now!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: michigancat on September 28, 2018, 10:45:44 AM
https://twitter.com/funder/status/1045654412394483712?s=19
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 10:46:51 AM
why would kavanaugh not want a quick fbi investigation? I would want everyone in the world investigating this if I knew I was innocent.

A point I read online: an FBI investigation could probably never prove that Kavdog did it, but could realistically disprove Ford's allegation.

What information did this article say the FBI could find that hasn’t been covered to date?

They would do things like pin down dates of events and where everyone was on those dates. They would also interview Judge.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 28, 2018, 10:49:48 AM
why would kavanaugh not want a quick fbi investigation? I would want everyone in the world investigating this if I knew I was innocent.

A point I read online: an FBI investigation could probably never prove that Kavdog did it, but could realistically disprove Ford's allegation.

The most convincing point I've read (which was covered ITT already) is that Kav had an audience of one yesterday.  Even if he wanted an FBI investigation, he wanted to avoid at all costs saying anything that would undermine Trump's decision not to have the FBI investigate further.  If it were me (and I didn't do it) I'd probably be quiet right now if it looked like I was going to get confirmed.  Then after confirmation I'd release a statement saying I want the FBI and local authorities to investigate absolutely everything.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 28, 2018, 10:50:34 AM
yeah BK does NOT want the FBI taking a statement from his super gross/pervy buddy Judge
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 28, 2018, 10:53:09 AM
FYI - No one thinks the FBI is going to turn up anything useful.

Source: no one is calling for an actual investigation of the alleged crimes from authorities who could actually bring charges (and they could, there is no statute of limitations for this kind of thing).
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2018, 10:57:32 AM
why would kavanaugh not want a quick fbi investigation? I would want everyone in the world investigating this if I knew I was innocent.

A point I read online: an FBI investigation could probably never prove that Kavdog did it, but could realistically disprove Ford's allegation.

What information did this article say the FBI could find that hasn’t been covered to date?

They would do things like pin down dates of events and where everyone was on those dates. They would also interview Judge.

I agree they could interview Judge, i laughed when you said pinning down dates but I think you may be serious?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 11:08:09 AM
why would kavanaugh not want a quick fbi investigation? I would want everyone in the world investigating this if I knew I was innocent.

A point I read online: an FBI investigation could probably never prove that Kavdog did it, but could realistically disprove Ford's allegation.

What information did this article say the FBI could find that hasn’t been covered to date?

They would do things like pin down dates of events and where everyone was on those dates. They would also interview Judge.

I agree they could interview Judge, i laughed when you said pinning down dates but I think you may be serious?

Well, not get a complete account of what happened on every day of that summer or whatever. But after interviewing a bunch of people, they might be able to deduce certain things. Like, here's a weekend we know Kavdog was out of town, here's a weekend we know the alleged party couldn't have been, etc.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2018, 11:09:59 AM
this contradicts the tweet i posted earlier, and seems more credible.  it was an audible.

https://twitter.com/WaPoSean/status/1045449833077780481

Actually....

https://twitter.com/Alan_Covington/status/1045637533378514944
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 11:12:34 AM
Kavdog's frat boy bud is a huge liar, too? Never would have guessed.

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1045705031301902337
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 11:20:04 AM
The more cynical answer would be that they don't want Mark Judge to have to answer questions and would rather rely on his statement made with the assistance of Republican staffers.

i definitely think they don't want him answering questions.  at best because he would either take the fifth to avoid answering questions that would incriminate himself in activities that didn't involve kavanaugh or would answer in ways that might corroborate kavanaugh's account but also reveal the magnitude of the divergence between kavanaugh's lies about his drinking and youthful behavior.  at worst because his answers would not be helpful to kavanaugh.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 11:20:36 AM
Imagine how Kavdog would feel about his alma mater and his church and the ABA all doing this if he had even a little bit of integrity.

https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1045707988550520834
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 11:23:00 AM
FYI - No one thinks the FBI is going to turn up anything useful.

i think there is a decent chance they could turn up useful information.  for example, kavanaugh denies not only assaulting blasey ford but also knowing her.  it seems to me probable that interviews with relevant persons could confirm or falsify that point.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 11:24:55 AM
Kavdog's frat boy bud is a huge liar, too? Never would have guessed.

heh.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 11:26:55 AM
Actually....

https://twitter.com/Alan_Covington/status/1045637533378514944

that's interesting.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 28, 2018, 11:28:12 AM
Kavdog's frat boy bud is a huge liar, too? Never would have guessed.

heh.

Did you think the "Ford lied about being afraid of flying" was a dumb point?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 11:29:39 AM
Actually....

https://twitter.com/Alan_Covington/status/1045637533378514944

that's interesting.

It is. Although,

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1045705895517343744
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2018, 11:30:35 AM
FYI - No one thinks the FBI is going to turn up anything useful.

i think there is a decent chance they could turn up useful information.  for example, kavanaugh denies not only assaulting blasey ford but also knowing her.  it seems to me probable that interviews with relevant persons could confirm or falsify that point.

His testimony was he could have met her but didn’t recall meeting her.  Are you saying you think the FBI could prove they did know each other?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: nicname on September 28, 2018, 11:30:52 AM
So who is the next person in line if this dood kets the kibosh?

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2018, 11:32:01 AM
Actually....

https://twitter.com/Alan_Covington/status/1045637533378514944

that's interesting.

It is. Although,

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1045705895517343744

Yeah, I was trying to find the article but didn't see anything. FAKE NEWS
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2018, 11:32:50 AM
So who is the next person in line if this dood kets the kibosh?

Amy something something

Having a conservative female justice would be positive imo.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 11:33:18 AM
i thought it was a fair, but very tangential, line of questioning, and as such, pretty stupid to focus on given the limited time the senators allowed themselves.  if the fbi sat down with her and had as much time as they wanted, i think it would be fair and relevant to address with her but probably not something that would lead anywhere interesting.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 11:38:15 AM
FYI - No one thinks the FBI is going to turn up anything useful.

i think there is a decent chance they could turn up useful information.  for example, kavanaugh denies not only assaulting blasey ford but also knowing her.  it seems to me probable that interviews with relevant persons could confirm or falsify that point.

His testimony was he could have met her but didn’t recall meeting her.  Are you saying you think the FBI could prove they did know each other?

i think that more likely than not they could establish the fact of the matter as to whether they had met.  obviously they would not be able to prove what kavanaugh recalls or doesn't.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 11:39:15 AM
maybe fact is too strong, but provide fairly substantial evidence in one direction or the other.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 11:42:02 AM
that's interesting.

It is. Although,

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1045705895517343744
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yeah, sounds like it's fake.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2018, 12:04:17 PM
Looks like the committee is going to vote in 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 28, 2018, 12:18:01 PM
I still don't get why multiple women accusing a man of sexual assault is being billed by republicans as a partisan issue like taxes or welfare would be but oh well
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2018, 12:22:04 PM
Ricky d won't be so caviler about believing mixed up whores when his sons are falsely accused.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 28, 2018, 12:30:21 PM
i'm guessing this has already been discussed, but is it weird to anyone except me that the republicans are turning multiple accusations of sexual assault and attempted rape into a partisan issue? also, why would kavanaugh not want a quick fbi investigation? I would want everyone in the world investigating this if I knew I was innocent.

I think they want to get this over with as quickly as possible to keep it from either A) being pushed into the next year when the Republicans may not have a majority or B) becoming an issue that encourages women to vote.

The more cynical answer would be that they don't want Mark Judge to have to answer questions and would rather rely on his statement made with the assistance of Republican staffers.

Is this supposed to be satirical?

The Republicans aren't the ones lobbing uncorroborated sex claims out after time expired to stall confirmation.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: CHONGS on September 28, 2018, 12:30:39 PM
This is a done deal
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2018, 12:31:38 PM
Of course it is, no one on earth expects Republicans to do the right thing
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 28, 2018, 12:32:34 PM
Looking forward to the next slam dunk nomination when Dems know it's a slam dunk nomination.   So Dems can troll up someone who will say that the nominee might have done something but they can't quite remember and aren't quite sure. 

Then when these accusers are questioned and aren't entirely believed Dems will then employ the shaming tactic . . . rinse and repeat.

Really appreciate the guilty until proven innocent mindset of resident LibBot JackBoots.



Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2018, 12:32:45 PM
This is a done deal

It was a pretty solid effort by the minority party to delay until the election but they came up just short
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 28, 2018, 12:37:25 PM
Looking forward to the next slam dunk nomination when Dems know it's a slam dunk nomination.   So Dems can troll up someone who will say that the nominee might have done something but they can't quite remember and aren't quite sure. 

Then when these accusers are questioned and aren't entirely believed Dems will then employ the shaming tactic . . . rinse and repeat.

Really appreciate the guilty until proven innocent mindset of resident LibBot JackBoots.

They won't be satisfied until a nazi like SS they control is running the country. It is what they are.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 28, 2018, 12:38:36 PM
Really appreciate the guilty until proven innocent mindset

This is just too good coming from you :love:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 28, 2018, 12:39:30 PM
This is a done deal

It was a pretty solid effort by the minority party to delay until the election but they came up just short

I enjoyed how they managed to completely discredit themsleves in the process. So many Spartacus moments  :lol:

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 28, 2018, 12:40:42 PM
Really appreciate the guilty until proven innocent mindset

This is just too good coming from you :love:

Who is your guys pick to be the Joseph Goebbels of the dem party, that senator from Hawaii or Kristin Gillibrand???
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 12:43:03 PM
Of course it is, no one on earth expects Republicans to do the right thing

i expected them to do what was smart in terms of elections.  it appears i was wrong about that.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 28, 2018, 12:43:33 PM
The Big Tuck is so weird and random.

Yet he can never back up anything.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 12:47:12 PM
This is a done deal

It was a pretty solid effort by the minority party to delay until the election but they came up just short

1) the minority party does not have the ability to create pre-existing sexual assaults where none existed.  2) there is still more than enough time to confirm a different nominee in the lame duck session - in the unlikely event that the pubs lose control of the senate.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: CHONGS on September 28, 2018, 12:54:38 PM


Of course it is, no one on earth expects Republicans to do the right thing

i expected them to do what was smart in terms of elections.  it appears i was wrong about that.

It was the smart move.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/09/kavanaugh-ford-hearings-everyone-lost-andrew-sullivan.html

Making Kavanaugh a martyr to the white Christian male hating leftist canal was the whole point.  And then Dems stupidity (as always)  fell for it. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2018, 12:56:34 PM
This is a done deal

It was a pretty solid effort by the minority party to delay until the election but they came up just short

1) the minority party does not have the ability to create pre-existing sexual assaults where none existed.  2) there is still more than enough time to confirm a different nominee in the lame duck session - in the unlikely event that the pubs lose control of the senate.

Vote hasn’t been taken 30 minutes after it was supposed to and talks of an fbi investigation now leaking out, may not have come up short after all.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 28, 2018, 12:58:01 PM
This is a done deal

It was a pretty solid effort by the minority party to delay until the election but they came up just short

1) the minority party does not have the ability to create pre-existing sexual assaults where none existed.  2) there is still more than enough time to confirm a different nominee in the lame duck session - in the unlikely event that the pubs lose control of the senate.

(1) Of course not, but rather than become actively involved in determining the truth of the allegations, they strategized over how to maximize their effectiveness during the nomination process. Neither side cares about the truth and it’s gross.

(2) Republicans seem to be banking on that.

I’ll agree with you on this much, sys, Republicans DNGAF about scoring political points here other than the ones they will score by getting Kav confirmed. I’m a bit surprised by that still but it seems irrefutable at this point.
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 28, 2018, 12:59:10 PM
And here comes WW with information that completely destroys what I just called irrefutable...
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 28, 2018, 12:59:46 PM
person a- you attempted to rape me

person b- why are you accusing me of attempting to rape you! you must be a democrat! you are ruining MY life!

person a- ?

most humans-  :sdeek:

republicans-   :Woot: :emawkid:

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 28, 2018, 01:08:39 PM
person a- you attempted to rape me

person b- why are you accusing me of attempting to rape you! you must be a democrat! you are ruining MY life!

person a- ?

most humans-  :sdeek:

republicans-   :Woot: :emawkid:

Translation:  We can accuse anyone we weirdly perceive as a political enemy of anything we want to without question and without providing any credible evidence beyond an accusation





Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2018, 01:09:34 PM
And here comes WW with information that completely destroys what I just called irrefutable...

Jeff Flake said he wants an investigation and voted to advance Kavanaugh out of committee on the understanding that an investigation will take place before Mitch McConnell brings it to a vote on the senate floor. That doesn't actually mean Mitch is going to delay the vote for a week to get an investigation, but he faces about a 3-4% risk of Flake actually voting no if that vote comes up prior to an investigation.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2018, 01:10:45 PM
Welp he’s out of committee...must think they have 50 votes
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 01:14:40 PM
Welp he’s out of committee...must think they have 50 votes

no, that was the agreement with flake - he agreed to move him out of committee on the understanding that he'll vote no on the floor if there isn't an fbi investigation.

obviously flake can change his mind or there may not be another pub+manchin that will vote no, in which case it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2018, 01:15:29 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1045736402628091906
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 01:17:24 PM
unless flake flakes on this or unless he has murkowski in his pocket, mcconnell's reputation as a floor genius has to take a hit.  they wasted weeks refusing to let the fbi investigate and then after all the whining about delays end up delaying themselves.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 01:20:23 PM
amazing that the dumb money take is that they were both credible witnesses.

https://twitter.com/jessohackberry/status/1045728785428082689
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 28, 2018, 01:25:00 PM
person a- you attempted to rape me

person b- why are you accusing me of attempting to rape you! you must be a democrat! you are ruining MY life!

person a- ?

most humans-  :sdeek:

republicans-   :Woot: :emawkid:

Translation:  We can accuse anyone we weirdly perceive as a political enemy of anything we want to without question and without providing any credible evidence beyond an accusation

there is no "we" dax. it's a single 50 year old female. there are however, multiple other women saying similar things about the guy. weird how nobody had an issue with Gorsuch. I guess the democrats must have loved him.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: michigancat on September 28, 2018, 01:25:36 PM


Of course it is, no one on earth expects Republicans to do the right thing

i expected them to do what was smart in terms of elections.  it appears i was wrong about that.

It was the smart move.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/09/kavanaugh-ford-hearings-everyone-lost-andrew-sullivan.html

Making Kavanaugh a martyr to the white Christian male hating leftist canal was the whole point.  And then Dems stupidity (as always)  fell for it.
Crazy how bad Sullivan as gotten
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 01:27:18 PM
there is no "we" dax. it's a single 50 year old female. there are however, multiple other women saying similar things about the guy. weird how nobody had an issue with Gorsuch. I guess the democrats must have loved him.

obviously, if there are multiple accusers, it becomes more likely that they are all making crap up as part of some ingenious conspiracy.  that's basic logic.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 28, 2018, 01:27:49 PM
person a- you attempted to rape me

person b- why are you accusing me of attempting to rape you! you must be a democrat! you are ruining MY life!

person a- ?

most humans-  :sdeek:

republicans-   :Woot: :emawkid:

Translation:  We can accuse anyone we weirdly perceive as a political enemy of anything we want to without question and without providing any credible evidence beyond an accusation

there is no "we" dax. it's a single 50 year old female. there are however, multiple other women saying similar things about the guy. weird how nobody had an issue with Gorsuch. I guess the democrats must have loved him.

Yet what you're saying and you don't even realize it (tone deaf LibBot) is that no one can cast any doubt on the accuser, we HAVE to believe everything he/she says and HAVE to believe it all went down exactly has they say it did . . . even if it's nearly 40 years later and the details are, to say the least, few.   Therefore the accused is guilty . . . because we say so.



Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2018, 01:30:07 PM
Poor Bill Cosby.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2018, 01:32:22 PM
amazing that the dumb money take is that they were both credible witnesses.

https://twitter.com/jessohackberry/status/1045728785428082689

Yeesh, this is actually better for kav than I thought listening live. Imagine any other job interview going that poorly
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 28, 2018, 01:33:20 PM
unless flake flakes on this or unless he has murkowski in his pocket, mcconnell's reputation as a floor genius has to take a hit.  they wasted weeks refusing to let the fbi investigate and then after all the whining about delays end up delaying themselves.

It's possible, but I think unlikely Mitch's reputation will take a hit unless Kav doesn't get confirmed.  Democrats have been spinning their wheels and refusing to participate in the investigation process because they're afraid it will undermine their calls for an FBI investigation.  Now Republicans can conduct the investigation (which is the only point anyone will remember Dems making during the hearing) and once it ends with no real information can say "welp, we had a hearing, we did the FBI investigation, guess there's nothing else to do but vote" over Dem objections that they should get another hearing.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 28, 2018, 01:33:35 PM
Judiciary hearings are not job interviews, how many times does this have be said?

Always enjoy when LibBot Nation rolls into non reality.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2018, 01:35:59 PM
amazing that the dumb money take is that they were both credible witnesses.

https://twitter.com/jessohackberry/status/1045728785428082689

Yeesh, this is actually better for kav than I thought listening live. Imagine any other job interview going that poorly

I suppose trump's campaign went even worse and a bunch of dumbos still decided to hire him
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: kstater on September 28, 2018, 01:36:57 PM
To be a fly in the wall when Grahm calls the oompa lumpa  in the white house to say he needs ask the FBI to investigate his own nominee in order to get enough votes to pass.

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: mocat on September 28, 2018, 02:33:37 PM
omg

https://twitter.com/heyitschili/status/1045718359713681408?s=19
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 02:44:09 PM
https://twitter.com/BresPolitico/status/1045759263669473282
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2018, 02:48:06 PM
Dis goin be good
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
https://twitter.com/mateagold/status/1045761800720068609
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2018, 02:50:43 PM
Sick mueller on him!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 02:52:31 PM
Another week to drag Kavdog through the mud and for Republicans to showcase their woman hating.  :Woot:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 28, 2018, 02:58:48 PM
Just more time for Dems to continue to weaponize #metoo against anyone that they (in this case,  weirdly) consider a political adversary.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 03:21:42 PM
 :eek:

https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1045767244674813953
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2018, 03:29:50 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 03:45:23 PM
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1045740092357251072
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 03:50:52 PM
once it ends with no real information can say "welp, we had a hearing, we did the FBI investigation, guess there's nothing else to do but vote" over Dem objections that they should get another hearing.

i think it is more likely that the investigation will reveal information that removes a substantial amount of uncertainty.  but, we'll see.
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 28, 2018, 04:03:45 PM
It’s really hard for me to imagine them uncovering more than hundreds of the most motivated reporters and Democrat investigators could, but I guess there could have been many folks with otherwise key information who simply refused to talk to anyone and won’t have that option with the FBI.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 28, 2018, 04:08:37 PM
What do you call a human being that is a lump and has brown lips?
A spineless Republican Democrat.butt kisser Senator.
Giving the Democrats 7 more days to manufacture lies and horse manure about Kavanaugh is the stupidist damn move imagineable.
I guess to get Flakes vote they had to do this
Next .......... more bombshell.crappie
Likely a.100 lying women will come forward, gay men too, hell maybe even Stormy Daniel too.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on September 28, 2018, 04:25:39 PM
Beers
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2018, 04:46:09 PM
I’d like to see kavsy play a nice game of Devil’s Triangle with some beers
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2018, 05:05:47 PM
I would imagine that the rules of the game go something like Kavs and one of his buds drink some beers while a female player drinks some beers with roofie. Whoever passes out first loses, and then they all have sex.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 28, 2018, 05:14:13 PM
Dems: "Look at the precedent set by H. W. Bush. He ordered a FBI investigation during the Thomas confirmation process. It only took 3 days!

Pubs: "We are ordering a FBI investigation. The investigation will last one week."

Dems: "One week is not long enough!"


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 28, 2018, 07:19:48 PM
aside from judge, i'm most interested in seeing what this dude tells the fbi.

https://twitter.com/jbenton/status/1045799992441675781
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 28, 2018, 07:31:16 PM
It's adorbs watching the libtards retreat to their echo chamber for solace evertime things don't go their way. Like a child hiding in his tree house
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2018, 07:43:41 PM
aside from judge, i'm most interested in seeing what this dude tells the fbi.

https://twitter.com/jbenton/status/1045799992441675781

Did any of the dems ask Kavs about Chris Garret dating Ford that summer? That seems like a relevant question to ask.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 28, 2018, 07:50:02 PM
I think they were too busy talking about other stuff.

What the FBI really needs to ask is why Squi was apparently not telling his bros about his girlfriend.  Was he ashamed of her?  Seems pretty obvious why it didn't work about between the two.

Sidenote: THE CALENDAR makes an appearance!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 28, 2018, 07:58:29 PM
Does the fbi have a time machine?

Because all the alleged witnesses already said the story is bullshit. Did anyone ask the accuser about why she sees a shrink, because that seems highly relevant here. Especially after she sat up there sounding like a naive child.

And, lol at her not knowing and/or her attorneys not telling her that the senators offered to come to her.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2018, 08:07:41 PM
Man introducing those calendars voluntarily might have completely mumped him, that’s crazy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 28, 2018, 08:10:41 PM
assume this has been posted sometime in the last few pages but LMAO

https://twitter.com/heyitschili/status/1045718359713681408
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 28, 2018, 08:12:48 PM
wow :lol:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 28, 2018, 08:18:40 PM
https://twitter.com/SamuelLJackson/status/1045815031928160256
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: michigancat on September 28, 2018, 11:21:38 PM
https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/1045879068938444801

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 29, 2018, 07:52:03 AM
Quote
I am a college-educated, suburban, first-generation Latino immigrant. I voted for President Obama in 2008 and 2012. I find President Trump to lack the basic moral character that we should expect in our political leaders and did not consider, even for a moment, voting for him in 2016. After watching how Senate Democrats and the media handled the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh, however, I will be voting Republican in 2018 and for Trump in 2020.

When I came to the United States, I left a country that had recently undergone a military coup. My family experienced first-hand what happens when those in power abandon the rule of law. We saw the devastation that comes to a society when men of power believe their political objectives so justified that they are willing to pursue them by any means necessary. In the eyes of those men of power, we could see the deadening of souls that occurs when a man’s perceived benevolence blinds him to his own tyranny.


During the Kavanaugh hearings I saw that same look in the eyes of Senate Democrats. The hearings made clear that the Democrats on the committee were not interested in pursuing the truth or respecting Christine Blasey Ford’s desire for anonymity. Instead, they simply sought to delay the vote in the hopes of winning the next election.

If Kavanaugh’s reputation and Ford’s privacy had to be sacrificed on the altar of political expediency, the committee Democrats were not going to let basic decency prevent them from using the courts as an alternative path to the political ends they cannot reach through legislation.

I found Ford believable. Although her memory had significant gaps, she has clearly experienced some trauma. She does not come across as politically or financially motivated as some of the other accusers do. I also found Kavanaugh to be believable. He has an impeccable record and strongly denied the accusations. We may never answer the questions of what truly occurred.

But there is a greater question at hand, a question beyond the truthfulness of Ford or Kavanaugh’s testimony. This question will have lasting effects long beyond the tenure of Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy’s replacement. That question is whether the politics of power, the politics by any means demonstrated by Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Senate Judiciary Committee Democrats, will be rewarded.

A mentor once told me, when discussing how to respond to inappropriate sexual conduct in the workplace, “You promote what you permit.” If Democrats are allowed to delay this nomination and the elections in 2018 and 2020 benefit them, both Republicans and Democrats for a generation will have learned that the American people prefer to be ruled by tyrants that punish their enemies instead of representatives in a republic who adhere to the rule of law.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 29, 2018, 07:54:19 AM
https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/1045879068938444801

I don't know who this asshat is, but with her four corroborating witnesses denying the allegations and her long history of mental health issues, the demotards couldn't satisfy any burden of proof recognizedat law.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 29, 2018, 07:56:49 AM
Whoops

https://twitter.com/LindaJWan/status/1045390557529272320?s=19
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 29, 2018, 08:18:21 AM
Quote
I am a college-educated, suburban, first-generation Latino immigrant. I voted for President Obama in 2008 and 2012. I find President Trump to lack the basic moral character that we should expect in our political leaders and did not consider, even for a moment, voting for him in 2016. After watching how Senate Democrats and the media handled the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh, however, I will be voting Republican in 2018 and for Trump in 2020.

When I came to the United States, I left a country that had recently undergone a military coup. My family experienced first-hand what happens when those in power abandon the rule of law. We saw the devastation that comes to a society when men of power believe their political objectives so justified that they are willing to pursue them by any means necessary. In the eyes of those men of power, we could see the deadening of souls that occurs when a man’s perceived benevolence blinds him to his own tyranny.


During the Kavanaugh hearings I saw that same look in the eyes of Senate Democrats. The hearings made clear that the Democrats on the committee were not interested in pursuing the truth or respecting Christine Blasey Ford’s desire for anonymity. Instead, they simply sought to delay the vote in the hopes of winning the next election.

If Kavanaugh’s reputation and Ford’s privacy had to be sacrificed on the altar of political expediency, the committee Democrats were not going to let basic decency prevent them from using the courts as an alternative path to the political ends they cannot reach through legislation.

I found Ford believable. Although her memory had significant gaps, she has clearly experienced some trauma. She does not come across as politically or financially motivated as some of the other accusers do. I also found Kavanaugh to be believable. He has an impeccable record and strongly denied the accusations. We may never answer the questions of what truly occurred.

But there is a greater question at hand, a question beyond the truthfulness of Ford or Kavanaugh’s testimony. This question will have lasting effects long beyond the tenure of Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy’s replacement. That question is whether the politics of power, the politics by any means demonstrated by Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Senate Judiciary Committee Democrats, will be rewarded.

A mentor once told me, when discussing how to respond to inappropriate sexual conduct in the workplace, “You promote what you permit.” If Democrats are allowed to delay this nomination and the elections in 2018 and 2020 benefit them, both Republicans and Democrats for a generation will have learned that the American people prefer to be ruled by tyrants that punish their enemies instead of representatives in a republic who adhere to the rule of law.


#walkaway
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 29, 2018, 12:41:38 PM
https://twitter.com/jamisonfoser/status/1046077299584626692
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 29, 2018, 01:19:13 PM
So now we’re parsing the definition of refute?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: botofdaxjones on September 29, 2018, 01:27:59 PM
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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 29, 2018, 02:53:14 PM
So now we’re parsing the definition of refute?

are you seriously suggesting that a person pretending to rise to the supreme court of the united states can either be ignorant or uncaring about the difference between evidence that refutes and evidence that fails to corroborate?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 29, 2018, 03:07:07 PM
hearing of the past behaviors of the principals is exactly why we needed an fbi investigation.

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1046116016932233217
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Trim on September 29, 2018, 03:13:04 PM
KU Kark (if Clinton

:lol:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 29, 2018, 05:02:59 PM
So now we’re parsing the definition of refute?

are you seriously suggesting that a person pretending to rise to the supreme court of the united states can either be ignorant or uncaring about the difference between evidence that refutes and evidence that fails to corroborate?

Hashtag things people with no legal experience say
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 29, 2018, 05:21:40 PM
i have to admit it was very satisfying to have you walk right into that.  i'd have preferred to have trapped spracne, but getting you was pretty good too.
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 29, 2018, 05:25:08 PM
:sdeek:

Cuff him sys. Sounds like you just nabbed his ass for perjury.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 29, 2018, 05:27:40 PM
i have to admit it was very satisfying to have you walk right into that.  i'd have preferred to have trapped spracne, but getting you was pretty good too.

Why you sonuva...


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 29, 2018, 05:39:10 PM
well this is obviously bullshit.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/white-house-limits-scope-fbi-s-investigation-allegations-against-brett-n915061
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 29, 2018, 05:43:00 PM
With this thread in the capable hands of cat', my services are not needed.


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 29, 2018, 05:44:00 PM
Do you think there is a chance the FBI will turn up nothing on Ford’s or Ramirez’s allegations, but Swetniks claims of seeing Kav at parties will blow it open?
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 29, 2018, 05:45:51 PM
FTR I am pretty disappointed no one asked about Swetnicks’s allegations during the 3+ hours or whatever hearing they just had. But I guess the judiciary committee must have more information than I do and probably determined the claims were NBD.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 29, 2018, 05:57:48 PM
well this is obviously bullshit.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/white-house-limits-scope-fbi-s-investigation-allegations-against-brett-n915061

Including

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1046153598021890050
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 29, 2018, 05:59:10 PM
Was there any doubt that the dems would immediately discredit the investigation they insisted upon and finally received?

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 29, 2018, 06:00:10 PM
https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1046162360321363969
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 29, 2018, 06:00:46 PM
Do you think there is a chance the FBI will turn up nothing on Ford’s or Ramirez’s allegations, but Swetniks claims of seeing Kav at parties will blow it open?

of course there is a chance for that.  and a much more greater chance that the investigations turn up a little bit of information in all three, which sum to a portrait more convincing than it's parts.

more importantly, it is intellectually legitimate to limit the duration of the investigation, as well as to restrict the subject matter (sexual misconduct, alcohol abuse that may have played a role in that and lies told relating to the two), it is not legitimate to direct the fbi to ignore any evidence relating to those themes.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 29, 2018, 06:05:22 PM
Was there any doubt that the dems would immediately discredit the investigation they insisted upon and finally received?

was there any doubt that the pubs would conduct a sham investigation designed to appease rather than inform?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 29, 2018, 06:10:37 PM
Was there any doubt that the dems would immediately discredit the investigation they insisted upon and finally received?

was there any doubt that the pubs would conduct a sham investigation designed to appease rather than inform?
If what you say is true, then why all of the insistence on requiring an FBI investigation in the 1st place? Hmm...

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 29, 2018, 06:17:09 PM
this is indefensible.

https://twitter.com/intelwire/status/1046145214803587072
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 29, 2018, 06:18:16 PM
Was there any doubt that the dems would immediately discredit the investigation they insisted upon and finally received?

was there any doubt that the pubs would conduct a sham investigation designed to appease rather than inform?
If what you say is true, then why all of the insistence on requiring an FBI investigation in the 1st place? Hmm...


my post was making fun of your post, spracne.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 29, 2018, 06:31:09 PM
Was there any doubt that the dems would immediately discredit the investigation they insisted upon and finally received?

was there any doubt that the pubs would conduct a sham investigation designed to appease rather than inform?
If what you say is true, then why all of the insistence on requiring an FBI investigation in the 1st place? Hmm...

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Nothing short of burning him at the stake will appease them
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 29, 2018, 07:30:01 PM
Psychos......
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 29, 2018, 07:45:31 PM
Was there any doubt that the dems would immediately discredit the investigation they insisted upon and finally received?

was there any doubt that the pubs would conduct a sham investigation designed to appease rather than inform?
If what you say is true, then why all of the insistence on requiring an FBI investigation in the 1st place? Hmm...


my post was making fun of your post, spracne.

Got him!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 29, 2018, 07:55:23 PM
this is indefensible.

https://twitter.com/intelwire/status/1046145214803587072

“You may not talk to Chris Garrett or Mark Judge”
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: steve dave on September 29, 2018, 08:25:43 PM
Incred

https://twitter.com/mattgertz/status/1046209037992435712?s=21


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on September 29, 2018, 08:35:14 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 29, 2018, 10:26:20 PM
Dax’s boy Jacob

https://twitter.com/jacobawohl/status/1046230975804407808
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on September 30, 2018, 07:16:40 AM
Democrats new line of resistance ,,,, Kavanaugh can't be an impartial jurist after his outburst of anger directed at Democrats.  Senator Fienstien is leading the charge.  The following comes from Maryou and Senators ....
"He was openly hostile and antagonistic in the most unprecedented way for any judicial nominee,” Cardin said. “Moreover, his belligerent attacks on the Democratic members of the committee compel me to question whether he is truly the impartial, apolitical jurist he claims."

Van Hollen tweeted that Kavanaugh's "meltdown was the angriest and most partisan performance a Supreme Court nominee has ever delivered. How can the public ever have confidence that he would judge impartially on controversial issues that come before the court?"
 :'bye cruel world: :shakesfist: :curse:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2018, 07:56:47 AM
Democrats new line of resistance ,,,, Kavanaugh can't be an impartial jurist after his outburst of anger directed at Democrats.  Senator Fienstien is leading the charge.  The following comes from Maryou and Senators ....
"He was openly hostile and antagonistic in the most unprecedented way for any judicial nominee,” Cardin said. “Moreover, his belligerent attacks on the Democratic members of the committee compel me to question whether he is truly the impartial, apolitical jurist he claims."

Van Hollen tweeted that Kavanaugh's "meltdown was the angriest and most partisan performance a Supreme Court nominee has ever delivered. How can the public ever have confidence that he would judge impartially on controversial issues that come before the court?"
 :'bye cruel world: :shakesfist: :curse:

LOL, he should have fallen asleep during questioning (ala RBG)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 30, 2018, 09:03:59 AM
I admire the way trump quickly folded.  Really backed his nominee
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2018, 01:07:32 PM
Per usual, fake news

this is indefensible.

https://twitter.com/intelwire/status/1046145214803587072
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on September 30, 2018, 01:15:06 PM
Per usual, fake news

this is indefensible.

https://twitter.com/intelwire/status/1046145214803587072

Reporting suggests otherwise.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2018, 01:22:08 PM
I agree with renocat, kav is too much of a hot headed bitch
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 30, 2018, 01:23:09 PM
I dunno. I'd love to crush a few skis with him and talk about old times.


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 30, 2018, 03:12:26 PM
I dunno. I'd love to crush a few skis with him and talk about old times.


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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: mocat on September 30, 2018, 03:20:02 PM
I dunno. I'd love to crush a few skis with him and talk about old times.


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Would you though? I don't think so
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: mocat on September 30, 2018, 03:21:01 PM
Look at his hair. Hair is like the human version of a movie trailer
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: mocat on September 30, 2018, 03:23:16 PM
And his hair says forgettable katherine heigl romcom
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2018, 05:09:32 PM
https://twitter.com/PGourevitch/status/1046390823510831104
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 30, 2018, 05:12:33 PM
I dunno. I'd love to crush a few skis with him and talk about old times.


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Would you though? I don't think so
Don't care. Would still drink beers with him. We both like beers.

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 30, 2018, 05:16:28 PM
I dunno. I'd love to crush a few skis with him and talk about old times.


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Don't care. Would still drink beers with him. We both like beers.

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Lots of less tools like beer
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2018, 05:47:52 PM
https://twitter.com/TimOBrien/status/1046510332796174336
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2018, 05:48:57 PM
(In the spirit of dragging Kavdog through the mud for another week.)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Spracne on September 30, 2018, 05:53:17 PM
Is there anyone who's been paying attention that doesn't think Kavdog was a booze hound in his younger days?

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2018, 06:29:43 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1046534500073844736
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2018, 06:36:20 PM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1046537432072630272
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 30, 2018, 06:46:45 PM
https://twitter.com/PGourevitch/status/1046390823510831104

what a rough ridin' joke.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2018, 06:58:24 PM
Is there anyone who's been paying attention that doesn't think Kavdog was a booze hound in his younger days?

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Brett Kavanaugh doesn't recall being a boozehound
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 30, 2018, 07:08:50 PM
https://twitter.com/PGourevitch/status/1046390823510831104

what a rough ridin' joke.

If Chris Garrett is off limits to the FBI and I’m a senator I’m voting no on the confirmation without hesitation.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 30, 2018, 07:16:04 PM
good thread that probably explains some of spracne/catastrophe's behavior in this thread.

https://twitter.com/ewzucker/status/1046219625690804224
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Trim on September 30, 2018, 07:22:42 PM
I haven't been following this intently.  This guy PAK'n HARD in college isn't itself something that people think DQ's him, right?  It's that he lied about it (weird)?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2018, 07:39:24 PM
They're turning advice and consent into a Can't Hardly Wait redux. It's beyond pathetic
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on September 30, 2018, 08:03:39 PM
I haven't been following this intently.  This guy PAK'n HARD in college isn't itself something that people think DQ's him, right?  It's that he lied about it (weird)?

Plenty of people have a major issue with him not telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth under oath. Some also think it's pertinent to the assault, saying he lied about it because he doesn't want to admit that he may have done something he doesn't remember.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Trim on September 30, 2018, 08:06:40 PM
I haven't been following this intently.  This guy PAK'n HARD in college isn't itself something that people think DQ's him, right?  It's that he lied about it (weird)?

Plenty of people have a major issue with him not telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth under oath. Some also think it's pertinent to the assault, saying he lied about it because he doesn't want to admit that he may have done something he doesn't remember.

What a horrible mistake - I'd say a DQ'n one - to not just admit he partied.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 30, 2018, 08:21:47 PM
good thread that probably explains some of spracne/catastrophe's behavior in this thread.

https://twitter.com/ewzucker/status/1046219625690804224

Good thread. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 30, 2018, 08:28:52 PM
I think we can do better than Brett Kavanaugh on the bench, he just doesn’t meet the standard.  Hopefully a handful of republican senators do the right thing.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on September 30, 2018, 08:36:48 PM
pretty good on kav's evasions and lies thursday (and in his fox interview).

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/09/how-we-know-kavanaugh-is-lying
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 30, 2018, 09:02:42 PM
I think we can do better than Brett Kavanaugh on the bench, he just doesn’t meet the standard.  Hopefully a handful of republican senators do the right thing.

He’s an incredibly qualified judge (again currently serving a lifetime appointment to the most prestigious federal appellate court other than SCOTUS) who has apparently been squeaky clean over the past 30 years or so leading up to the confirmation hearing. That’s not exactly something you can take for granted.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2018, 09:31:00 PM
I don't think anyone is arguing that sexual assaulters and chronic liars can't be good at their jobs

Weinstien produced some really great movies for a lot of years too
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on September 30, 2018, 10:24:48 PM
Sure, it's possible. But are you saying it applies here?  I am just not aware of any overlap between the accusations against Kav and his professional career (except for accusations pertaining to the confirmation process itself).
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on September 30, 2018, 10:38:33 PM
Sure, it's possible. But are you saying it applies here?  I am just not aware of any overlap between the accusations against Kav and his professional career (except for accusations pertaining to the confirmation process itself).

His senate confirmation for the appellate court took 3 years because several senators took issue with him lying to them. He doesn’t have a great track record of being honest.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2018, 11:17:28 PM
pretty good on kav's evasions and lies thursday (and in his fox interview).

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/09/how-we-know-kavanaugh-is-lying
Yes this is long but worth reading
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 01, 2018, 09:39:16 AM
Yeah, no crap

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1046757904978780160?s=19
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 01, 2018, 09:53:26 AM
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/409168-feinstein-requests-written-directive-sent-by-white-house-to-fbi-for-kavanaugh  (https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/409168-feinstein-requests-written-directive-sent-by-white-house-to-fbi-for-kavanaugh)

This is rich.  They should tell her that they will turn over in two weeks. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 09:55:02 AM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1046718211448872960
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2018, 09:55:51 AM
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/409168-feinstein-requests-written-directive-sent-by-white-house-to-fbi-for-kavanaugh  (https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/409168-feinstein-requests-written-directive-sent-by-white-house-to-fbi-for-kavanaugh)

This is rich.  They should tell her that they will turn over in two weeks. 

What is your problem with her request?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 01, 2018, 10:06:22 AM
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/409168-feinstein-requests-written-directive-sent-by-white-house-to-fbi-for-kavanaugh  (https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/409168-feinstein-requests-written-directive-sent-by-white-house-to-fbi-for-kavanaugh)

This is rich.  They should tell her that they will turn over in two weeks. 

What is your problem with her request?

I don't have one at all I just think it's funny coming from her.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2018, 11:22:18 AM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1046718211448872960

To be fair, I am sure the FBI has been receiving A LOT of anonymous tips attempting to corroborate stories on both sides. That said, no one is accusing this of being the WH or senate’s doing, are they? Is this going to just turn into the left’s turn to take a shot at how rigged and partisan the FBI is?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 11:25:05 AM
That said, no one is accusing this of being the WH or senate’s doing, are they? Is this going to just turn into the left’s turn to take a shot at how rigged and partisan the FBI is?

everyone has accused this of being the white house's doing.  it has been explicitly stated that it's the white house's doing in every report.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 11:26:18 AM
that can't have been a serious question.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 01, 2018, 11:37:50 AM
To be fair, I am sure the FBI has been receiving A LOT of anonymous tips attempting to corroborate stories on both sides. That said, no one is accusing this of being the WH or senate’s doing, are they? Is this going to just turn into the left’s turn to take a shot at how rigged and partisan the FBI is?

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1046724356498509824
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on October 01, 2018, 11:39:15 AM
Are they really telling the FBI they can’t talk to squi? I thought for sure it was fake news.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on October 01, 2018, 11:51:00 AM
Avenatti
Enough said.
Crooked SOB
Trying to get the slimelight
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2018, 12:10:50 PM
That said, no one is accusing this of being the WH or senate’s doing, are they? Is this going to just turn into the left’s turn to take a shot at how rigged and partisan the FBI is?

everyone has accused this of being the white house's doing.  it has been explicitly stated that it's the white house's doing in every report.

I mean, there’s nothing I can say to change your mind if you believe Trump’s administration functions so seamlessly and efficiently that every FBI field office knows they should give certain tipsters the runaround based on a WH directive issued just a few days ago.

More plausible explanation: the FBI is focusing on people with knowledge of key events as opposed to those who admit they have no firsthand knowledge. I have no doubt they’ll get to the peripheral folks later if they deem it necessary. We’re on day 1 and people are complaining about who isn’t getting interviewed.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on October 01, 2018, 12:22:56 PM
That said, no one is accusing this of being the WH or senate’s doing, are they? Is this going to just turn into the left’s turn to take a shot at how rigged and partisan the FBI is?

everyone has accused this of being the white house's doing.  it has been explicitly stated that it's the white house's doing in every report.

I mean, there’s nothing I can say to change your mind if you believe Trump’s administration functions so seamlessly and efficiently that every FBI field office knows they should give certain tipsters the runaround based on a WH directive issued just a few days ago.

More plausible explanation: the FBI is focusing on people with knowledge of key events as opposed to those who admit they have no firsthand knowledge. I have no doubt they’ll get to the peripheral folks later if they deem it necessary. We’re on day 1 and people are complaining about who isn’t getting interviewed.

Fake news, am I right?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 12:41:09 PM
we're on day three and i can't believe the level of spin to which you are sinking.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2018, 12:41:41 PM
there's ol' catastrophe cheering for the rapist again
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2018, 12:43:26 PM
It's actually known that the white house has specifically limited who the fbi can talk to (unless you believe trump's tweet denying that actually releases the fbi to talk to whoever they need to). This is not a disputeable fact bud.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2018, 12:54:27 PM
My understanding (from NPR this morning) is that they’re investigating current and credible allegations against Kav, and that the FBI has discretion to determine what fits into that category. Is that not right?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 01, 2018, 01:00:05 PM
Wait, the libtards are now alleging Trump is directing the FBI in how to do its job?????  BWAHAHAHAHAHA  :lol:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2018, 01:01:21 PM
It's unclear because trump.

Mcgahn initially gave the limited interview scope, nbc(?) reported about it, trump tweets that it's fake news and the fbi can do what they want, Feinstein requests clarity (ha, that's rich coming from her right!!!!) and hasn't gotten anything yet as far as I know.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 01:02:59 PM
the thread you're posting in, how long have you gone without reading it?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2018, 01:06:53 PM
There’s a difference between reading unsubstantiated rumors and giving them credit. I’m just asking for the latest confirmed facts.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2018, 01:08:21 PM
I did read an op ed from Jim Comey today that seemed pretty optimistic the FBI would do a thorough job.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 01:08:44 PM
flake talking right now, making it pretty clear that he is pushing back on the limitations. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 01, 2018, 01:14:18 PM
Why do Democrats who have opposed BK since he was nominated require an fbi investigation? If it comes back clear are they going to support him????

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on October 01, 2018, 01:16:49 PM
flake talking right now, making it pretty clear that he is pushing back on the limitations. 

Amazing what kind of spine your grow in Washington when you aren’t seeking re-election
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 01, 2018, 01:17:42 PM
I did read an op ed from Jim Comey today that seemed pretty optimistic the FBI would do a thorough job.

He's probably the last person anyone would care what he thinks
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 01:19:00 PM
flake talking right now, making it pretty clear that he is pushing back on the limitations. 

Amazing what kind of spine your grow in Washington when you aren’t seeking re-election

maybe.  we'll see if he'll back it up with a vote if the wh calls his bluff.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 01:45:35 PM
Amazing what kind of spine your grow in Washington when you aren’t seeking re-election

i want to add that i don't think flake has the appetite to do any pushing back if he knows it would be meaningless, so it is very likely that murkowski (at least) is backing anything he makes public.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 01:46:44 PM
this is good.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1046825845371879430
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
Agreed, sys. It’s hard to imagine Flake would ever criticize decisions of this president if he wasn’t completely serious about putting a stop to it.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2018, 01:50:16 PM
this is good.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1046825845371879430

Feels good to be validated.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
cnn (radio) is saying the nyt news isn't accurate, so i dunno.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 01:51:10 PM
Feels good to be validated.

refuted, to be precise.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2018, 01:59:57 PM
Trump changing his mind after getting caught doesn't exactly validate you ignoring facts
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2018, 02:01:19 PM
My understanding (from NPR this morning) is that they’re investigating current and credible allegations against Kav, and that the FBI has discretion to determine what fits into that category. Is that not right?

Just link the refutation here so we can all get a good lol at Catastrophe’s stupid mental gymnastics in arriving to this conclusion.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 02:10:13 PM
i'm not going to dance around with your pretending to be illiterate, catastrophe.  if you find it funny, go find someone else who also does and amuse yourselves.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2018, 02:14:24 PM
Should have tapped earlier if you wanted to save face. But you know what, I’m not gonna tell you how to do your thing.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 01, 2018, 03:03:35 PM
this is good.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1046825845371879430

Pffft, after Democrats become outraged over fake news, and the white house telling them it's fake news, fake news writes headline claiming Democrats (wdgaf about the fbi investigation) forced change  :lol:


It's so formulaic, it's laughable
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 01, 2018, 03:11:53 PM
the part about it being democrats, rather than flake and murkowski is pretty laughable.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 01, 2018, 03:41:54 PM
Wow, how many LibBot celebs went full homophobe on Lindsey Graham?





Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on October 01, 2018, 03:45:54 PM
Wow, how many LibBot celebs went full homophobe on Lindsey Graham?







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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 01, 2018, 04:04:08 PM
Wow, how many LibBot celebs went full homophobe on Lindsey Graham?







You're clearly not paying attention.

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 01, 2018, 04:23:33 PM
lol
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 01, 2018, 04:53:28 PM
https://twitter.com/DallasWoodhouse/status/1046417445001588736

Executive director of the North Carolina GOP talking about Swetnick. He's clearly insane.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2018, 05:28:48 PM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1046880156391018496
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2018, 05:53:45 PM
Seems to warrant further investigation.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2018, 06:09:50 PM
https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/1046883824624386048
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2018, 06:17:33 PM
Wasn’t sure what the actual testimony was. Could be a case of semantics if he found out about the allegations because a reporter contacted him or his friends in connection with their story, but that doesn’t seem like the most likely explanation at this point.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2018, 06:22:04 PM
I love smear Kavdog week.

https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1046901671798956033
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2018, 06:25:55 PM
Wasn’t sure what the actual testimony was. Could be a case of semantics if he found out about the allegations because a reporter contacted him or his friends in connection with their story, but that doesn’t seem like the most likely explanation at this point.

https://twitter.com/TheViewFromLL2/status/1046902153539932160
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2018, 06:28:31 PM
Yeah seems like that pretty much nails it down unless you take a hypertechnical definition of “matching the description,” but that would be almost as dumb as trying to convict someone for misusing a word like refute.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2018, 06:29:09 PM
https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1046902288789454850
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2018, 06:40:55 PM
Smear Kavdog week is truly off to a great start!

https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1046906852947177472
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 01, 2018, 07:11:52 PM
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THE WAY WE WANT YOU TO OR ELSE PERJURY

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 01, 2018, 08:03:50 PM
I believe this is what the libtards are calling perjury these days

http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/01/sex-crimes-prosecutor-details-12-massive-inconsistencies-kavanaugh-accusers-story/
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2018, 08:04:45 PM
https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1046924171115151360
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2018, 09:57:35 PM
Interesting if accurate

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1046855976270336001
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Tobias on October 01, 2018, 10:49:50 PM
got her ass!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 01, 2018, 10:52:32 PM
Would anyone be surprised if she's found to be delusional??? Her testimony was super weird
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 02, 2018, 06:20:55 AM
https://twitter.com/DafnaLinzer/status/1046969030681276417
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 02, 2018, 07:12:40 AM
https://twitter.com/TimOBrien/status/1046941920315002880
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: treysolid on October 02, 2018, 08:27:06 AM
Would anyone be surprised if she's found to be delusional??? Her testimony was super weird

Weirder than the guy who cried at a calendar???
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 02, 2018, 08:52:39 AM
I don't care at all about the beer pounding and a million other things, but the lying and crying and weird non answers to simple questions should be enough for anybody to says pass and move on. the pubs seem fixated on this guy being the only possible option though so here we are.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on October 02, 2018, 09:34:33 AM
Democrats in a few days after the FBI report is provided.
"Hey, so we were wrong.  It is better to be thorough about such.  Kavanaugh will be fine.  He is a priviledged white guy.  However, he does not have the temperament to be on SCOTUS after his indignant personal and partisian outburst against us.  He was mean and not compassionate.
Renocat, you are bonkers.  Am I?  From AP:

"Democrats have seized most recently on Kavanaugh’s indignant, emotional testimony before the Judiciary Committee to question whether he has the temperament for a lifetime appointment on the nation’s highest court.

In particular, Democrats have homed in on his contention that the allegations against him are an “orchestrated political hit” funded by left-wing groups seeking “revenge on behalf of the Clintons.”

Sen. Mazie Hirono, a Democrat from Hawaii, said, “We’re going to put a conspiracy theory believer on the court?”
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on October 02, 2018, 10:15:55 AM
I mean if you don’t want him to be a Justice just vote no.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on October 02, 2018, 11:58:17 AM
I mean if you don’t want him to be a Justice just vote no.
I agree, but .....
Democrats cannot run the risk of Kavanaugh being named to SCOTUS.
Why?  Power and the loss of an important tool to institute Democrat ideology, use of the courts to do so.
Example.  The court is considering a case in which the term "sex" in the Civil Rights Act includes sexual orientation.  A conservative constructionist judge would say no; Congress  meant biological alignments, and the judge would say pass a law to change the act it is not the courts role tof make laws.  Leftoes say court has to roll with the times, and a activist judge will make new law.  So democrats file a suit to change laws and let the courts do their bidding.  Kavanaugh will steer the court to conservative constructionism, and the Democrats will be forced to legislate.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 02, 2018, 12:03:19 PM
It's very important to put a serial liar and sexual assualter on the bench so we can discriminate against gays with cover from the court
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on October 02, 2018, 02:31:49 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/key-senator-concerned-about-kavanaughs-partisan-tone/ar-BBNQkFN
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kavanaugh%e2%80%99s-temperament-and-credibility-emerge-as-flashpoints-in-supreme-court-fight/ar-BBNPVty

GAWD ALMIGHTY!!! ENOUGH!!  Burn and pillage Democrats hell bent on destroying any one to gain power to make the state God Almighty, accused Kavanaugh of being a boozer, serial rapist, a habitual liar, and gross cad that farted and barfed.  And they now are against because he was pissed.  I thought he was very restrained.  My response would have been more colorful and targeted to point out the "SenatorsHypocrites like war hero Blumenthal and hire a Chiner spy Fienstien.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 02, 2018, 02:45:33 PM
This is a pretty good read.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/why-i-wouldnt-confirm-brett-kavanaugh/571936/

https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/1038531834295066625

https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/1038531836278923264

https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/1038531838636118016
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: CHONGS on October 02, 2018, 06:31:17 PM
Double doors tho...
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 02, 2018, 07:01:23 PM
https://twitter.com/davidenrich/status/1047253999613878273
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on October 02, 2018, 08:36:23 PM
So beer drinking and barfing as a teenager disqualifies someone from being a justice.  Morons would cite this as a disqualifier.  Oh, Kavanaugh farted too and contributed to global warming and killing polAR bears.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 02, 2018, 08:43:08 PM
I love watchin’ ‘crats dig their hole deeper this time ah year   :driving:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 02, 2018, 08:59:31 PM
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Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 02, 2018, 09:56:49 PM
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1047288875616329728
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: 8manpick on October 02, 2018, 11:03:03 PM
Holy crap
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: renocat on October 03, 2018, 08:46:55 AM
From CBS.  Hillary Clinton saying Kavanaugh's temperament at the last hearing disqualifies him to be a SCOTUSer.  Democrats said he is guilty of being a gang rapist.  Guilty, no doubt.  Women accusers are always right and the man has no assumption of innocence.   Belittling a man for vehemently and forcefully trying to defend himself from such accusations ando to protect his family shows the belittler to be a ruthless, amoral, and heartless person willing to do anything for power.

"Former Secretary of State and 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton says that Judge Brett Kavanaugh's behavior during his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee into allegations of sexual assault was "quite out of bounds" for a Supreme Court nominee.

"For anyone who believes there's such a thing as judicial temperament and that we want judges, particularly those on our highest court to approach issues, approach plaintiffs and defendants with a sense of fairness, that there's a lot to be concerned about,"
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on October 03, 2018, 09:16:46 AM
No doubt as a white male who like beers I'd want him on my side in court!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 03, 2018, 10:50:14 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6235637/Ex-boyfriend-Christine-Ford-says-WASNT-afraid-flying-closed-spaces.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6235637/Ex-boyfriend-Christine-Ford-says-WASNT-afraid-flying-closed-spaces.html)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 03, 2018, 11:41:16 AM
So are we believing the anonymous accuser this time?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2018, 11:42:46 AM
Why, is there another one?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: LickNeckey on October 03, 2018, 12:01:59 PM
Why, is there another one?
anonymous bf
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 03, 2018, 12:06:51 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6235463/Christine-Fords-high-school-friend-blindsided-named-corroborating-witness.html  (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6235463/Christine-Fords-high-school-friend-blindsided-named-corroborating-witness.html)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2018, 12:21:22 PM
Just a bit of advice, stop reading the tabloids
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 03, 2018, 12:36:22 PM
More perjury from Ford

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/10/02/building_documents_undermine_fords_exit_door_account.html
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 03, 2018, 12:39:13 PM
Just a bit of advice, stop reading the tabloids

wait. are you saying that people shouldn't believe the heavily right leaning british tabloid called dailymail.co.uk that was banned by Wikipedia as an unreliable source?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/08/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source-for-website

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/daily-mail
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 03, 2018, 12:42:39 PM
Are you tards actually contesting that Leland denied Ford's account????

Because that's been widely reported by multiple outlets for days.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 03, 2018, 12:44:05 PM
And Ford was on a rough ridin' airplane to and from New Hampshire a few weeks before she testified.

She's either a kook or a liar, or both.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 03, 2018, 12:45:26 PM
Just a bit of advice, stop reading the tabloids

 :lol: (ftp://:lol:) This coming from someone who doesn't have a problem posting tweets from nobodies...  Got it!!   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (ftp://:rolleyes: :rolleyes:)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: bucket on October 03, 2018, 12:46:26 PM
Just a bit of advice, stop reading the tabloids

wait. are you saying that people shouldn't believe the heavily right leaning british tabloid called dailymail.co.uk that was banned by Wikipedia as an unreliable source?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/08/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source-for-website

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/daily-mail

Wikipedia is a liberal media megaphone!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2018, 12:51:30 PM
Just a bit of advice, stop reading the tabloids

wait. are you saying that people shouldn't believe the heavily right leaning british tabloid called dailymail.co.uk that was banned by Wikipedia as an unreliable source?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/08/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source-for-website

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/daily-mail

I think they are one of FSD’s go to sources as well.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 03, 2018, 12:52:17 PM
Are you tards actually contesting that Leland denied Ford's account????

Because that's been widely reported by multiple outlets for days.

where is she quoted as denying ford's account? I've only seen reports of her saying she doesn't know him and doesn't remember.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 03, 2018, 12:52:54 PM
And Ford was on a rough ridin' airplane to and from New Hampshire a few weeks before she testified.

She's either a kook or a liar, or both.

what does that have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2018, 12:54:38 PM
She said she doesn't like to fly but she does fly so obviously she is confused about bart
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 03, 2018, 01:00:22 PM
Just a bit of advice, stop reading the tabloids

wait. are you saying that people shouldn't believe the heavily right leaning british tabloid called dailymail.co.uk that was banned by Wikipedia as an unreliable source?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/08/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source-for-website

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/daily-mail

I wasn't asking anyone to believe a thing.  I also didn't write anything that said I believe it one way or another either.  And do you scrutinize all unreliable left leaning articles too?  Seems to me anyone can post an article or tweet from any source and the majority here will jump on it as gospel. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2018, 01:04:37 PM
Flailing . . .

Sad

/dax
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2018, 01:07:10 PM
Getting on an airplane isn't proof that you are not afraid of flying. Most people are able to overcome their fears enough to function in society.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 03, 2018, 01:11:43 PM
Just a bit of advice, stop reading the tabloids

wait. are you saying that people shouldn't believe the heavily right leaning british tabloid called dailymail.co.uk that was banned by Wikipedia as an unreliable source?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/08/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source-for-website

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/daily-mail

Wikipedia is a liberal media megaphone!  :shakesfist:

I would like to see the gov regulate Wiki
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 03, 2018, 01:13:34 PM
Getting on an airplane isn't proof that you are not afraid of flying. Most people are able to overcome their fears enough to function in society.

Yeah these perjury talking points are getting to epic levels of ridiculous.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on October 03, 2018, 01:21:44 PM
Just slap a Derrick Marlsnd sticker on Merrick Garland and tell trump it’s the best new conservative Justice on the appellate court and let’s move on
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2018, 01:23:59 PM
Getting on an airplane isn't proof that you are not afraid of flying. Most people are able to overcome their fears enough to function in society.

Yeah these perjury talking points are getting to epic levels of ridiculous.

I don't know if Kavanaugh's lies amount to perjury, but they do point to him being beneath the standard of a supreme court justice. Confirming him at this point would be a terrible decision.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 03, 2018, 01:38:41 PM
I agree he has showed exactly the wrong demeanor for a Supreme Court Justice, and I probably wouldn’t support his confirmation at this point for that very reason. That said, if he does get confirmed, only Democrats are going to be calling it a mistake 3-5 years from now.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2018, 01:40:19 PM
I agree he has showed exactly the wrong demeanor for a Supreme Court Justice, and I probably wouldn’t support his confirmation at this point for that very reason. That said, if he does get confirmed, only Democrats are going to be calling it a mistake 3-5 years from now.

Duh, republicans don't even care if he tried to rape a girl
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2018, 01:41:42 PM
The republicans wouldn't even call it a mistake this year, considering they have to vote almost unanimously to get him in. I guess Flake and Sasse probably would still call it a mistake after voting for him.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 03, 2018, 01:52:17 PM
And Ford was on a rough ridin' airplane to and from New Hampshire a few weeks before she testified.

She's either a kook or a liar, or both.

what does that have to do with anything?

Are you rough ridin' kidding me???
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 03, 2018, 01:53:51 PM
Getting on an airplane isn't proof that you are not afraid of flying. Most people are able to overcome their fears enough to function in society.

Yeah these perjury talking points are getting to epic levels of ridiculous.

Well played  :lol:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 03, 2018, 01:55:32 PM
The new talking point that a judge has to be an automaton in the face of heinous accusations, is yet another example hilariously libtarded groupthink and hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2018, 01:56:29 PM
The judge just needs to tell the truth about himself. I don't think that's a new talking point, really. I think that's always been expected.
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 03, 2018, 01:58:28 PM
The republicans wouldn't even call it a mistake this year, considering they have to vote almost unanimously to get him in. I guess Flake and Sasse probably would still call it a mistake after voting for him.

I’m including voters and independents when I say not Democrats.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2018, 02:05:34 PM
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/10/03/business/03PREP-ltr2/03PREP-ltr2-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp)

Interesting that he closed his letter with FFFFF, considering that was just a verbal play on his friend who stuttered and doesn't actually mean anything.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 03, 2018, 02:13:18 PM
Also his name was apparently Bart so perjured himself over that too.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2018, 02:14:25 PM
No, he didn't answer the bart question so no perjury just daxfuscation
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 03, 2018, 02:25:20 PM
allowing the fbi to interview kavanaugh and blasey-ford might help a bit in determining how much each of them lied.  it's very disappointing that they are being placed off limits.
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 03, 2018, 02:40:28 PM
If these restrictions are real, there’s a legitimate gripe to be had with the judiciary committee and WH. But either way everyone should be pissed at their senators for throwing away an opportunity to really dig into the facts when they were both there under oath.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2018, 02:44:19 PM
You really can't dig into any facts when the accused can't truthfully answer any slightly awkward question about himself.
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 03, 2018, 02:50:24 PM
There were two witnesses. The only person asking legitimately probing questions about the events in question to either witness (and not questions designed to elicit false or misleading testimony) was the prosecutor, who was unfortunately pulled during Kav’s testimony.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 03, 2018, 03:26:54 PM
And Ford was on a rough ridin' airplane to and from New Hampshire a few weeks before she testified.

She's either a kook or a liar, or both.

what does that have to do with anything?

Are you rough ridin' kidding me???

no  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 03, 2018, 03:49:31 PM
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/10/03/business/03PREP-ltr2/03PREP-ltr2-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp)

Interesting that he closed his letter with FFFFF, considering that was just a verbal play on his friend who stuttered and doesn't actually mean anything.

these dorks were begging girls to stay with them.  omg
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Brock Landers on October 03, 2018, 04:01:02 PM
No real surprise that FSD is a fear of flying truther.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 03, 2018, 04:02:21 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/dozens-potential-sources-information-have-not-been-contacted-fbi-kavanaugh-n916146
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 03, 2018, 05:27:58 PM
getting to be enough polls that it is likely this effect is real (and substantially larger than i would have thought).  but once he's confirmed the pubs should settle back to lick their whiskers and dems should stay mad.

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/654015874/poll-amid-kavanaugh-confirmation-battle-democratic-enthusiasm-edge-evaporates?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 03, 2018, 05:38:57 PM
but once he's confirmed the pubs should settle back to lick their whiskers

Thankfully, pubs are he'll bent on confirming ASAP and all this will be long forgotten.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 03, 2018, 06:05:26 PM
lol

https://twitter.com/AlanInDC/status/1047617805712084993
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 03, 2018, 06:07:58 PM
getting to be enough polls that it is likely this effect is real (and substantially larger than i would have thought).  but once he's confirmed the pubs should settle back to lick their whiskers and dems should stay mad.

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/654015874/poll-amid-kavanaugh-confirmation-battle-democratic-enthusiasm-edge-evaporates?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

Who could have ever predicted such a thing?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on October 03, 2018, 06:12:49 PM
the "she's afraid to fly" angle is the most LOL of this thread....thanks all involved.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 03, 2018, 06:18:52 PM
Really surprised by all the talk on the surveillance stuff, because resident LibBots never questioned their guy and his love of spying on, well . . . everybody.

The pivots are just too hard to follow these days.


Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiet on October 03, 2018, 06:57:30 PM
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/10/03/business/03PREP-ltr2/03PREP-ltr2-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp)

Interesting that he closed his letter with FFFFF, considering that was just a verbal play on his friend who stuttered and doesn't actually mean anything.

This reads like a Trim post
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 03, 2018, 07:00:48 PM
getting to be enough polls that it is likely this effect is real (and substantially larger than i would have thought).  but once he's confirmed the pubs should settle back to lick their whiskers and dems should stay mad.

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/654015874/poll-amid-kavanaugh-confirmation-battle-democratic-enthusiasm-edge-evaporates?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

Who could have ever predicted such a thing?

chingon.  he's very cynical.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 03, 2018, 07:07:08 PM
Q: Who would have ever guessed a grotesque abuse of power by the dems, accompanied with disgusting ethics and shameful grandstanding would have woke the pub base.

A: Everyone not living in the libtard echochamber.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: CHONGS on October 03, 2018, 07:34:47 PM
getting to be enough polls that it is likely this effect is real (and substantially larger than i would have thought).  but once he's confirmed the pubs should settle back to lick their whiskers and dems should stay mad.

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/654015874/poll-amid-kavanaugh-confirmation-battle-democratic-enthusiasm-edge-evaporates?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

Who could have ever predicted such a thing?

chingon.  he's very cynical.
:gocho:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 03, 2018, 08:07:54 PM
It would be lol fabulous if this ridiculous stunt cost the dems the judiciary forever AND both chambers for at least another two years.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 03, 2018, 08:21:56 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/03/christine-blasey-ford-changing-memories-not-credible-kavanaugh-column/1497661002/
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 03, 2018, 08:40:22 PM
but once he's confirmed the pubs should settle back to lick their whiskers

Thankfully, pubs are he'll bent on confirming ASAP and all this will be long forgotten.

Just as the good Dr. Ford and her allegation will be.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 03, 2018, 08:41:15 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/03/christine-blasey-ford-changing-memories-not-credible-kavanaugh-column/1497661002/

usatoday???   :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)  Fake brother...
Title: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 03, 2018, 09:08:36 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/03/christine-blasey-ford-changing-memories-not-credible-kavanaugh-column/1497661002/

usatoday   :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)  Fake brother...

Not that much of a knock on credibility IMO. I can try to recall something that happened just a few weeks ago and if someone points out facts suggesting that I got details wrong, why wouldn’t I change my story to account for those details? The 4 attackers thing is pretty bad though. Also kinda shitty for Ford to say her friend Leland contradicted her testimony because she has “health issues.”
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 03, 2018, 09:13:42 PM
I appreciate the devil's advocate role you've taken on, but come on. Her witnesses cannot corroborate and her story keeps changing. No reasonable fact finder could find her credible.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: chum1 on October 04, 2018, 06:54:33 AM
https://twitter.com/CarolLeonnig/status/1047686810699276299
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: mocat on October 04, 2018, 06:54:36 AM
Do these people not know their constituency?

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/409775-national-council-of-churches-calls-for-kavanaughs-nomination-to?amp&__twitter_impression=true (https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/409775-national-council-of-churches-calls-for-kavanaughs-nomination-to?amp&__twitter_impression=true)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 04, 2018, 08:55:47 AM
Do these people not know their constituency?

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/409775-national-council-of-churches-calls-for-kavanaughs-nomination-to?amp&__twitter_impression=true (https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/409775-national-council-of-churches-calls-for-kavanaughs-nomination-to?amp&__twitter_impression=true)

Those aren't evangelical churches.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 04, 2018, 09:09:20 AM
I’ve never heard of that group.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2018, 09:11:28 AM
Probably a bunch of libs butthurt about the 2016 election and also tools of revenge for Hillary Clinton and financed by soros
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: catastrophe on October 04, 2018, 09:47:02 AM
https://twitter.com/CarolLeonnig/status/1047686810699276299

Interesting that the guy he heard it from doesn’t remember it at all.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 04, 2018, 10:14:30 AM
Is this a pivot day when the left doesn't believe anything rank and file FBI entities say?



Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 04, 2018, 10:26:24 AM
Is this a pivot day when the left doesn't believe anything rank and file FBI entities say?

I am sure it is.  Do you now pivot and say the FBI is to be believed?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on October 04, 2018, 10:30:26 AM
I can't get access to new systems in a week... What does anybody really expect the fbi to do in that time frame? All a dog and pony show.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2018, 10:31:53 AM
I don't think anyone is questioning the fbi but rather the white house who restricted their activities. Dax is too stupid to understand the difference #pivot
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sys on October 04, 2018, 11:13:41 AM
a week was enough time.  time was not the constraint, the constraints were the prohibitions placed on the investigation.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2018, 11:15:35 AM
https://twitter.com/HowardKoplowitz/status/1047876528409927680

Hmm, is this why known Roy moore supporter, sonofdaxjones, has been too busy to post much the last few days?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 04, 2018, 11:35:35 AM
I don't think anyone is questioning the fbi but rather the white house who restricted their activities. Dax is too stupid to understand the difference #pivot

What was restricted?

The difference is not a pivot . . . stupid.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on October 04, 2018, 11:37:32 AM
I don't think anyone is questioning the fbi but rather the white house who restricted their activities. Dax is too stupid to understand the difference #pivot

What was restricted?

The difference is not a pivot . . . stupid.



Depends on who you believe but they were told only to talk to certain people based on what I have seen
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 04, 2018, 11:38:35 AM
Oh, I get it, "restricted" from "investigating" whether Kav drank like most college guys.

In other words, LibBot Nation is not going to get a chance to slow roll this, and thus and as always you're  :curse:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 04, 2018, 11:43:00 AM
super whiney takes today  :frown:
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2018, 11:45:01 AM
Grats bud
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 04, 2018, 11:51:10 AM
makes me sad that you guys are sad
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2018, 11:54:39 AM
At least a serial liar and probable sexual assualter will be on the Supreme Court, I'm sure that is a bit of a silver lining for you
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: wetwillie on October 04, 2018, 12:10:12 PM
Oh, I get it, "restricted" from "investigating" whether Kav drank like most college guys.

In other words, LibBot Nation is not going to get a chance to slow roll this, and thus and as always you're  :curse:

Why restrict who the FBI can talk to as long as they do it in the allotted time?  Outside of Phil’s comment I don’t think anyone had a problem with a week as the right amount of time.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 04, 2018, 12:15:51 PM
I don't think anyone is questioning the fbi but rather the white house who restricted their activities. Dax is too stupid to understand the difference #pivot

Seriously, why would you even care?  You're already on record for accusing him which shows your mentality.   The Dems had plenty of opportunity to ask questions and they didn't but you're the one too stupid to understand that.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 04, 2018, 12:17:43 PM
Oh, I get it, "restricted" from "investigating" whether Kav drank like most college guys.

In other words, LibBot Nation is not going to get a chance to slow roll this, and thus and as always you're  :curse:

Why restrict who the FBI can talk to as long as they do it in the allotted time?  Outside of Phil’s comment I don’t think anyone had a problem with a week as the right amount of time.

I would like to know if there was restrictions.  It does seem limited but do agree that there did need to be some constraints.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2018, 12:23:15 PM
I don't think anyone is questioning the fbi but rather the white house who restricted their activities. Dax is too stupid to understand the difference #pivot

Seriously, why would you even care?  You're already on record for accusing him which shows your mentality.   The Dems had plenty of opportunity to ask questions and they didn't but you're the one too stupid to understand that.

Why would I care about a sham investigation? Weird question guy
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Phil Titola on October 04, 2018, 01:26:09 PM
Oh, I get it, "restricted" from "investigating" whether Kav drank like most college guys.

In other words, LibBot Nation is not going to get a chance to slow roll this, and thus and as always you're  :curse:

Why restrict who the FBI can talk to as long as they do it in the allotted time?  Outside of Phil’s comment I don’t think anyone had a problem with a week as the right amount of time.

I don't really have a problem with a week.... Nothing was going to come from this that was going to change anybody mind.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 04, 2018, 01:28:03 PM
At least a serial liar and probable sexual assualter will be on the Supreme Court, I'm sure that is a bit of a silver lining for you

wait, I thought she was just a professor or something
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: renocat on October 04, 2018, 02:25:31 PM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/10/03/kavanaugh-effect-democrats-are-paying-a-price-for-their-character-assassinatio-n2524876
Democrats are gonna pay dearly for this smear and kill campaign to try to retain powere and their tool judicial activism.
This crap has made me so angry.  Democrats thought kicks were mad when trump won, ain't seen nothing yet.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2018, 02:31:34 PM
God, I love emoji humor

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1047928174137561088
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: chum1 on October 04, 2018, 02:38:01 PM
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1047924963611750400
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: wetwillie on October 04, 2018, 02:53:01 PM
God, I love emoji humor

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1047928174137561088

Amaze
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: chum1 on October 04, 2018, 02:53:53 PM
https://twitter.com/luluramadan/status/1047916196568453123
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2018, 02:56:49 PM
Delusional libtard
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 04, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
LibBot7 needs another 1000 page report!
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: chum1 on October 04, 2018, 04:12:24 PM
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1047942299165110274
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 04, 2018, 04:13:53 PM
At least a serial liar and probable sexual assualter will be on the Supreme Court, I'm sure that is a bit of a silver lining for you

 :love:

So butt hurt. So lock step with the lies and Democrat slandering machine. Such a useful idiot.

 :love:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 04, 2018, 04:14:59 PM
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1047942299165110274

Everyone recognizes these people as off the reservation crazy, right? Nobody actually supports this, do they?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 04, 2018, 04:18:42 PM
Haha. eff you Amy Schumer.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2018, 04:24:04 PM
https://twitter.com/emrata/status/1047948187342913537
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 04, 2018, 04:48:52 PM
https://twitter.com/emrata/status/1047948187342913537

Is that the star of that music video promoting rape?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Spracne on October 04, 2018, 05:25:36 PM
Delusional libtard
Stevens was a liberal Justice, dumbass.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: bucket on October 04, 2018, 05:27:02 PM
Delusional libtard
Stevens was a liberal Justice, dumbass.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2018, 05:28:44 PM
Delusional libtard
Stevens was a liberal Justice, dumbass.

Probably why he's a delusional libtard
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Spracne on October 04, 2018, 05:32:30 PM
Lol. Ok, lib. Let's pretend that's what you meant :thumbs:

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2018, 06:02:11 PM
Senator from Montana (r) says he won't show up for a vote this weekend because his daughter is getting married
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 04, 2018, 06:28:09 PM
Typical delay tactic.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: bucket on October 04, 2018, 06:55:53 PM
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1047998403840540672

Dear God  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Phil Titola on October 04, 2018, 07:39:26 PM
I like my sexual assaulters who don't give up.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2018, 07:44:32 PM
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1047998403840540672

Dear God  :sdeek:

whoa
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 04, 2018, 07:50:54 PM
Delusional libtard
Stevens was a liberal Justice, dumbass.

 :confused:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 04, 2018, 07:52:04 PM
They're characterizing Stevens as a pub?!?!?!?!?

 :lol: :ROFL: :lol: :ROFL: :lol:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 04, 2018, 07:53:10 PM
https://twitter.com/luluramadan/status/1047916196568453123

Bwahahahahahaha

So ignorant
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2018, 07:54:35 PM
(https://notsosecureblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/ki-combo-breaker-tee.jpg?w=720)
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 04, 2018, 07:55:00 PM
Alyssa Milano, a lifelong conservative and person of academic pedigree, opposes BK! Senators should pay attention to this.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2018, 07:55:42 PM
holy crap I actually did it!  :excited:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 04, 2018, 07:57:41 PM
Senator from Montana (r) says he won't show up for a vote this weekend because his daughter is getting married

Lifelong democrat

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Tester
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: chum1 on October 04, 2018, 08:06:40 PM
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1048013970618105856
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 04, 2018, 08:12:23 PM
It's over, libtards. You can drop the fake news.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 04, 2018, 08:15:21 PM
TIA, for forfeiting the senate.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 04, 2018, 08:31:17 PM
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1048013970618105856

Yeah but how can you trust a bunch of drunks?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: wetwillie on October 04, 2018, 08:54:11 PM
Senator from Montana (r) says he won't show up for a vote this weekend because his daughter is getting married

Lifelong democrat

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Tester

You aren’t going to believe this but the United States gave those backwoods fuckers from Montana 2 senators. 
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 04, 2018, 09:58:06 PM
Senator from Montana (r) says he won't show up for a vote this weekend because his daughter is getting married

Lifelong democrat

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Tester

You aren’t going to believe this but the United States gave those backwoods fuckers from Montana 2 senators.

Same can be said for Alaska.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: bucket on October 04, 2018, 10:08:33 PM
Senator from Montana (r) says he won't show up for a vote this weekend because his daughter is getting married

Lifelong democrat

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Tester

You aren’t going to believe this but the United States gave those backwoods fuckers from Montana 2 senators.

Same can be said for Alaska.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 04, 2018, 10:21:45 PM
Senator from Montana (r) says he won't show up for a vote this weekend because his daughter is getting married

Lifelong democrat

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Tester

You aren’t going to believe this but the United States gave those backwoods fuckers from Montana 2 senators.

Oops, was supposed to say lifelong Republican

#jokefail
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Trim on October 04, 2018, 10:50:38 PM
What has this particular judge agreed to do that has trump'rs so hellbent on making him a supreme court judge?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2018, 10:59:43 PM
What has this particular judge agreed to do that has trump'rs so hellbent on making him a supreme court judge?

Not subpoena presidents


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Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 04, 2018, 11:03:13 PM
1. They’re pissed with the process and don’t want Democrats to “win” by sandbagging then digging up some provocative allegations at the end of the process.

2. They’re on team Republican. Kav not getting confirmed feels like losing, and no one likes losing.

3. They’re afraid that if the nomination gets pulled, something similar could happen to the next one. In the unlikely event Democrats take control of the senate (I’m told this is a historically bad cycle for the Dem senators based on the seats up for election) another extended delay after Kav could mean 8 SCOTUS justices until at least 2021.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Trim on October 04, 2018, 11:07:29 PM
What has this particular judge agreed to do that has trump'rs so hellbent on making him a supreme court judge?

Not subpoena presidents

The move then is to find another guy who'll agree to that and who doesn't have the baggage this guy does and who will look relatively great by comparison.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 04, 2018, 11:29:19 PM
We would definitely do that if we were pud
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: steve dave on October 05, 2018, 06:38:05 AM
We would definitely do that if we were pud

we’re making a bad choice to own the libs


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Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: chum1 on October 05, 2018, 06:46:04 AM
What has this particular judge agreed to do that has trump'rs so hellbent on making him a supreme court judge?

I read that the GOP's internal polling tells them that if they don't get someone confirmed, their midterm voter turnout will be deflated. And, at this point, there isn't enough time to get someone other than Kavanaugh confirmed.

It also seems that a lot of the old white guys in the Senate are extremely rough ridin' indignant about one of their own being victimized by the libs/media/usual enemies of old white guy status quo. So, they want to hold the line.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 05, 2018, 01:19:33 PM
Looks like Murkowski is voting no. Flake and Sasse are yes. Collins undecided.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 05, 2018, 02:14:12 PM
Collins will vote yes. Kavanaugh wins.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 02:20:57 PM
The country loses
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 02:21:49 PM
Never question our bought and for allegations:  LibBot Nation
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 05, 2018, 02:28:36 PM
Giving a serial rapist a lifetime position on the lands highest court to own the libs.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2018, 02:31:04 PM
He got convicted? Link?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 05, 2018, 02:32:45 PM
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Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 02:40:59 PM
I hope any time he asks a question the response is "I dunno, do you?"
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 02:53:45 PM
Giving a serial rapist a lifetime position on the lands highest court to own the libs.

You guys made a multi time accused sexual predator and his facilitating wife who lead the campaigns to destroy those women a pillar of your party, nearly putting them in the White House for 3 terms as President and putting her in office as a U.S. Senator after we knew she lead the effort to destroy those women.   Your party and movement has not a single leg to stand on this regard.  Since Kav is "convicted", then Bill Clinton and facilitating wife are "convicted" as well.








 





Title: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 05, 2018, 02:56:01 PM
Giving a serial rapist a lifetime position on the lands highest court to own the libs.

You guys made a multi time accused sexual predator and his facilitating wife who lead the campaigns to destroy those women a pillar of your party, nearly putting them in the White House for 3 terms as President and putting her in office as a U.S. Senator after we knew she lead the effort to destroy those women.   Your party and movement has not a single leg to stand on this regard.  Since Kav is "convicted", then Bill Clinton and facilitating wife are "convicted" as well.

Yep when I was 5 and 9 I put Bill Clinton into power by using my right to vote in a national election.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 02:56:53 PM
On the other side of the coin obviously now dax thinks Bill was railroaded by a couple confused and troubled sluts
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 02:57:40 PM
Giving a serial rapist a lifetime position on the lands highest court to own the libs.

You guys made a multi time accused sexual predator and his facilitating wife who lead the campaigns to destroy those women a pillar of your party, nearly putting them in the White House for 3 terms as President and putting her in office as a U.S. Senator after we knew she lead the effort to destroy those women.   Your party and movement has not a single leg to stand on this regard.  Since Kav is "convicted", then Bill Clinton and facilitating wife are "convicted" as well.

Yep when I was 5 and 9 I put Bill Clinton into power by using my right to vote in a national election.

What about "your party" is confusing?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 02:58:45 PM
On the other side of the coin obviously now dax thinks Bill was railroaded by a couple confused and troubled sluts

Bill Clinton's accusers were quite succinct and detailed in terms of what took place, when it took place, and where it took place.  There's a difference.

Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 03:01:38 PM
Paid better I suppose
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 05, 2018, 03:06:06 PM
The country loses

 :bawl: :bawl: :curse: :curse: :bawl: :bawl: (ftp://:bawl: :bawl: :curse: :curse: :bawl: :bawl:)

If you didn't take the time to listen to Sen. Collins speech you should.  She actually used her time during the confirmation timetable to ask Kav what she personally was concerned about AND actually looked at his stellar track record.  They both made her feel comfortable about all the bullshit arguments the Dems had about Kav. and how he might vote in the future.  She further lambasted the Dems on how they treated Dr. Ford, concluded the evidence against Kav was incredibly weak and stated she wasn't dismissing Ford was potentially abused.  I doubt you will though chief. 
Title: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 05, 2018, 03:08:07 PM
This was never a fact finding mission on either side. Feinstein screwed the pooch badly with the information she was given and Republicans outmaneuvered her to get their guy. That’s pretty much all that happened.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 03:09:06 PM
Paid better I suppose

Let the rage flow, LibBot7  :curse:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 03:10:46 PM
I would love an opportunity to ask kavdawg why, as a serial liar and far right conspiracy bomb thrower, I should be comfortable with him on the bench but I doubt his answers would sway me.

That doesn't even bring the Ford (and others) allegation.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 03:13:05 PM
I would love an opportunity to ask kavdawg why, as a serial liar and far right conspiracy bomb thrower, I should be comfortable with him on the bench but I doubt his answers would sway me.

That doesn't even bring the Ford (and others) allegation.

You guys were all falling right in line until DiFi (who absolutely lied her ass off) pulled the stunt.

Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 03:16:31 PM
Admittedly, the whole weirdo conspiracy beliver thing came out because of Ford, but he was a known serial liar before Ford became public. If he was a lib you (dax) would be losing your mind over the lies and dark money.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh hearing. Ugly bad optics for Democrats
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 03:19:14 PM
Of course it is, no one on earth expects Republicans to do the right thing

libtradamus  :gocho:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 05, 2018, 03:19:39 PM
wait, is he a conspiracy nutjob? 
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 05, 2018, 03:19:47 PM
Admittedly, the whole weirdo conspiracy beliver thing came out because of Ford, but he was a known serial liar before Ford became public. If he was a lib you (dax) would be losing your mind over the lies and dark money.

Also would have made for good questioning instead of asking Kav over and over if he wanted an FBI investigation.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 03:20:18 PM
Admittedly, the whole weirdo conspiracy beliver thing came out because of Ford, but he was a known serial liar before Ford became public. If he was a lib you (dax) would be losing your mind over the lies and dark money.

Not really, you guys are absolutely reaching for every nuance possible.  I stick to the big stuff like YouTube killing an Ambassador.

You know in your stupid little heart that if we went dumpster diving like this on everyone we'd have them all in "lies".  You're just pissed that it's going to be harder for your side to legislate from the bench.



Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 03:22:42 PM
wait, is he a conspiracy nutjob? 

Yeah, it's very embarrassing
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 05, 2018, 03:23:11 PM
This was never a fact finding mission on either side. Feinstein screwed the pooch badly with the information she was given and Republicans outmaneuvered her to get their guy. That’s pretty much all that happened.

A ton of truth to this.  Still not sure why Feinstien hasn't caught more wrath from her party?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 03:24:08 PM
The definition of what is a conspiracy in LibBot7 world is massive, so take it with a grain salt you fellow LibBots of LibBot7.

Title: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 05, 2018, 03:24:39 PM
Feinstein hasn’t caught grief from Dems for the same reason Ford didn’t publicly criticize her. They all wanted the same thing. It wouldn’t have done any good to step on each other.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
I'm not sure difi even knows what is going on. We need an age limit on these people
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 05, 2018, 03:29:50 PM
I'm not sure difi even knows what is going on. We need an age limit on these people

That is definitely something I can agree with.  :fistpump: (ftp://:fistpump:)
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 03:30:09 PM
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Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 03:37:55 PM
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Belongs in favorite conspiracy thread

Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 03:40:56 PM
Are you confused again or just have no sense of humor?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 05, 2018, 03:43:07 PM
The definition of what is a conspiracy in LibBot7 world is massive, so take it with a grain salt you fellow LibBots of LibBot7.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 05, 2018, 03:49:59 PM
You just can’t ditch cocaine Mitch.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 03:50:41 PM
Are you confused again or just have no sense of humor?

 Just  :lol: at you.   No fan of Mitch, but it's a conspiracy as espoused by a guy who blew up people in his mine.

Speaking of no sense of humor.





Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 03:57:07 PM
Dax actually thinking people believe the cocaine mitch thing instead of just laughing at the 'shop opportunities is extremely daxian
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 03:58:22 PM
Dax actually thinking people believe the cocaine mitch thing instead of just laughing at the 'shop opportunities is extremely daxian

Posting that here was LibFlection at its best . . . and worst.   But you've got to calm yourself in the midst of your usual Friday afternoon meltdown.


Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 05, 2018, 03:58:57 PM
It's a joke dax jfc
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 03:59:48 PM
It's a joke dax jfc

No crap . . . but, some people don't get this thread.

Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2018, 04:02:00 PM
It's a joke dax jfc

No crap . . . but, some people don't get this thread.



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Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 05, 2018, 04:02:23 PM
#DBAP
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: botofdaxjones on October 05, 2018, 04:11:31 PM
No crap . . . with subisides for families stuff into leaking attacks, to you. Just cant tap out nukes Fusion GPS (and victories correct? (Pun NeoCons!Please see the Robots candidate, recently is ready for it.  Nor is the House! #facepalmSuch violent and Google foreign nationals that months kinds of military abiding donations back.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2018, 04:27:35 PM
Whoever runs this account is terrible at it.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Spracne on October 05, 2018, 04:40:31 PM
Gotta be TBT. I doubt anyone reads more than one lost from that sock.

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Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Shooter Jones on October 05, 2018, 04:40:48 PM
Giving a serial rapist a lifetime position on the lands highest court to own the libs.

You guys made a multi time accused sexual predator and his facilitating wife who lead the campaigns to destroy those women a pillar of your party, nearly putting them in the White House for 3 terms as President and putting her in office as a U.S. Senator after we knew she lead the effort to destroy those women.   Your party and movement has not a single leg to stand on this regard.  Since Kav is "convicted", then Bill Clinton and facilitating wife are "convicted" as well.

Yep when I was 5 and 9 I put Bill Clinton into power by using my right to vote in a national election.

Yep when I was 32 I put Bert Kavanaugh into power by using my right to vote him into SCJ.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2018, 04:47:12 PM
Gotta be TBT. I doubt anyone reads more than one lost from that sock.

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My god, his conspiracy theory post... :shooturmouth:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 05, 2018, 04:50:02 PM
Added yet another sock to the growing list of ones I supposedly control :excited:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: gatoveintisiet on October 05, 2018, 08:11:41 PM
As a sock, I have awoke in the middle of the night in a cold sweat terrified that I will make a post bad   enough to be accused of being controlled by tbt
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 06, 2018, 01:20:36 AM
DC cat: “show me a link to the Clinton’s mass murdering ppl for their political agenda”

Also DC Cat: “Kavanaugh is a serial rapist!”

????
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: chum1 on October 06, 2018, 06:40:15 AM
https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1048412515921776640
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 06, 2018, 06:41:44 AM
DC cat: “show me a link to the Clinton’s mass murdering ppl for their political agenda”

Also DC Cat: “Kavanaugh is a serial rapist!”



I posted that body bag picture meaning you caught me you dingleberry.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: bucket on October 06, 2018, 02:44:31 PM
In all seriousness. My biggest concern has been that a supreme court nominee has failed to be honest, but expects to be confirmed. How would he look on a defendant who fails to be honest?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: renocat on October 06, 2018, 03:38:00 PM
Women should be angry about how special interest leftist groups high jacked the #MeToo movement and all of the good arising from it to push their causes.  How much has this damaged the growing support for women to come forward when assaulted.  What the did this have to do with abortions or gay rights or women gaining power or old white men.
Instead these loonies have caused great harm to civility and discourse.
They need to trash and holler at Avenitti and Hillary.  They are the evil.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: bucket on October 06, 2018, 05:13:35 PM
https://twitter.com/npfandos/status/1048695010529566721

Man, I'd sure like a guy like Cocaine Mitch on my team.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 06, 2018, 05:20:04 PM
In all seriousness. My biggest concern has been that a supreme court nominee has failed to be honest, but expects to be confirmed. How would he look on a defendant who fails to be honest?

Supreme Court justices are pretty much never responsible for determining witness credibility.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: bucket on October 06, 2018, 05:25:45 PM
In all seriousness. My biggest concern has been that a supreme court nominee has failed to be honest, but expects to be confirmed. How would he look on a defendant who fails to be honest?

Supreme Court justices are pretty much never responsible for determining witness credibility.

A judge is.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Spracne on October 06, 2018, 05:43:11 PM
In all seriousness. My biggest concern has been that a supreme court nominee has failed to be honest, but expects to be confirmed. How would he look on a defendant who fails to be honest?

Supreme Court justices are pretty much never responsible for determining witness credibility.

A judge is.

So you agree he's better suited as a Justice than a judge, then?


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Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: bucket on October 06, 2018, 05:44:53 PM
In all seriousness. My biggest concern has been that a supreme court nominee has failed to be honest, but expects to be confirmed. How would he look on a defendant who fails to be honest?

Supreme Court justices are pretty much never responsible for determining witness credibility.

A judge is.

So you agree he's better suited as a Justice than a judge, then?


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Is a Supreme Court justice not a judge of judges?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Spracne on October 06, 2018, 05:51:49 PM
In all seriousness. My biggest concern has been that a supreme court nominee has failed to be honest, but expects to be confirmed. How would he look on a defendant who fails to be honest?

Supreme Court justices are pretty much never responsible for determining witness credibility.

A judge is.

So you agree he's better suited as a Justice than a judge, then?


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Is a Supreme Court justice not a judge of judges?

Sometimes, yes. But that's not what you said? Talking to you is already tiresome.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: bucket on October 06, 2018, 05:59:12 PM
In all seriousness. My biggest concern has been that a supreme court nominee has failed to be honest, but expects to be confirmed. How would he look on a defendant who fails to be honest?

Supreme Court justices are pretty much never responsible for determining witness credibility.

A judge is.

So you agree he's better suited as a Justice than a judge, then?


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Is a Supreme Court justice not a judge of judges?

Sometimes, yes. But that's not what you said? Talking to you is already tiresome.

I'm a simple guy. I stand by my original statement. Lying doesn't fly in court. A judge isn't going to stand for it. Brett lied his ass off and was just appointed to the highest court in the land. That's what I have a problem with.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 06, 2018, 09:41:10 PM
In all seriousness. My biggest concern has been that a supreme court nominee has failed to be honest, but expects to be confirmed. How would he look on a defendant who fails to be honest?

Supreme Court justices are pretty much never responsible for determining witness credibility.

A judge is.

So you agree he's better suited as a Justice than a judge, then?


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Is a Supreme Court justice not a judge of judges?

Sometimes, yes. But that's not what you said? Talking to you is already tiresome.

I'm a simple guy. I stand by my original statement. Lying doesn't fly in court. A judge isn't going to stand for it. Brett lied his ass off and was just appointed to the highest court in the land. That's what I have a problem with.

This is just your opinion.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 07, 2018, 11:12:02 AM
It's the opinion of anyone who doesn't have crap for brains.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: gatoveintisiet on October 07, 2018, 11:39:32 AM
You have just failed my litmus test and are dead to me, k bye
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 07, 2018, 01:57:09 PM
How many losses can the libs take at this point?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sys on October 07, 2018, 02:12:28 PM
this was a win, i think.  we'll find out in a month or so.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sys on October 07, 2018, 03:58:44 PM
dumbass scientists not even trying to measure how convenient it was to believe she mumped up the face memory.

https://twitter.com/ericuman/status/1048955501332111360
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 07, 2018, 05:05:56 PM
Yeah that’s a weird thing to believe IMO unless you believe she was pretty drunk and didn’t ID the person in the moment.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 07, 2018, 05:57:32 PM
LibBots:  We're digging deep and will never question why Ford didn't come forward years earlier



Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: wetwillie on October 07, 2018, 05:59:39 PM
Hopefully some bureaucratic hero leaks the full fbi report so this thread wasn’t in vain. Was Chris Garrett dating Ford?!
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 07, 2018, 06:03:05 PM
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/410185-kagan-warns-supreme-court-may-not-have-a-swing-vote-anymore

Translation:  I view SCOTUS as a political body





Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: gatoveintisiet on October 07, 2018, 06:19:51 PM
 :lol: nobody irl thinks she misremembered anything dorks, they are trying to gracefully pull up short of calling her a liar.  Scientists  :lol:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 07, 2018, 06:34:12 PM
Republicans really pulled one over on sys, what a gullible dork
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 07, 2018, 07:02:18 PM
:lol: nobody irl thinks she misremembered anything dorks, they are trying to gracefully pull up short of calling her a liar.  Scientists  :lol:

She is a liar, and I hope they prosecute her and her handlers.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 07, 2018, 07:27:41 PM
DiFi liar needs to censured   
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: ChiComCat on October 08, 2018, 08:59:43 AM
LibBots:  We're digging deep and will never question why Ford didn't come forward years earlier





Republicans: Still don't understand sexual assault in the slightest
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: renocat on October 08, 2018, 09:23:31 AM
And it appears Democrats don't believe in innocence until proven guilty, but guilty by mob KKK style justice.
We have tried to get past the days when white mobs could find minorities guilty by someone making a false accusation.   Do we want to start down this slope again
Stoopid rabid hate fueled mobs don't think.
Soros and Obama and Clinton are behind inflaming the hemmoids.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 08, 2018, 09:44:11 AM
I really thought huge self proclaimed cum dumpster Amy Schumer would settle this fight for justice, but she lost again.  :frown:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 08, 2018, 10:29:03 AM
LibBots:  We're digging deep and will never question why Ford didn't come forward years earlier





Republicans: Still don't understand sexual assault in the slightest

LOL, such a tap out.   But keep telling yourself that DiFi Liar and gang didn't orchestrate this purely for political reasons, at the end of the day, they couldn't care less about Ms. Ford.



Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: ChiComCat on October 08, 2018, 10:45:17 AM
LibBots:  We're digging deep and will never question why Ford didn't come forward years earlier





Republicans: Still don't understand sexual assault in the slightest

LOL, such a tap out.   But keep telling yourself that DiFi Liar and gang didn't orchestrate this purely for political reasons, at the end of the day, they couldn't care less about Ms. Ford.

I think there was more political gamesmanship from the Libs with this than I would like, but acting like the claim is fictional because she didn't accuse him 36 years ago shows a blatant misunderstanding of sexual assault.  Pretending you can believe she was sexual assaulted but then deciding it wasn't Kavanaugh shows a blatant misunderstanding of sexual assault.  Those senators are just trying to justify their lack of integrity to themselves and/or their constituents.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 08, 2018, 10:49:59 AM
The dems used up Ford (crazy person) and tossed her aside like a piece of trash.

And let's stop pretending that anyone thinks she's fingering the wrong guy. That position only exists because if you point out her story is uncorroborated and conveniently fluid, and therefore not credible, the whackadoos will accuse you of supporting assault vis a vis not "believing the accuser" who "deserves to be believed."
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: ChiComCat on October 08, 2018, 10:51:12 AM
The dems used up Ford (crazy person) and tossed her aside like a piece of trash.

And let's stop pretending that anyone thinks she's fingering the wrong guy. That position only exists because if you point out her story is uncorroborated and conveniently fluid, and therefore not credible, the whackadoos will accuse you of supporting assault vis a vis not "believing the accuser" who "deserves to be believed."

I'd rather them just call her a liar like you do or say it doesn't matter than pretend that she was assaulted and it was someone else.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 08, 2018, 10:54:10 AM
I would too. Unfortunately the left has made that politically impossible.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Shooter Jones on October 08, 2018, 11:26:11 AM
LibBots:  We're digging deep and will never question why Ford didn't come forward years earlier





Republicans: Still don't understand sexual assault in the slightest

Is there any difference between sexual assault and gang rape? Even slightly... Or is it all just a gray area?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 08, 2018, 11:33:21 AM

I'd rather them just call her a liar like you do or say it doesn't matter than pretend that she was assaulted and it was someone else.

That’s basically what Collins did btw. She said something along the lines that if we give too much credit to uncorroborated accounts like Ford’s it’s just going to happen over and over again as the new normal to tank SCOTUS nominees.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: ChiComCat on October 08, 2018, 12:47:55 PM

I'd rather them just call her a liar like you do or say it doesn't matter than pretend that she was assaulted and it was someone else.

That’s basically what Collins did btw. She said something along the lines that if we give too much credit to uncorroborated accounts like Ford’s it’s just going to happen over and over again as the new normal to tank SCOTUS nominees.

I don't agree with her hypothesis that women who knew nominee growing up will line up to martyr themselves for their political beliefs
Title: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 08, 2018, 01:18:30 PM
That’s fine, as long as you understand that your philosophy that the accuser should always be believed (so long as they can be placed in an overlapping social circle) is also problematic.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: chum1 on October 08, 2018, 03:29:39 PM
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1049389426424598529
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 08, 2018, 07:03:26 PM
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1049320740191981570
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 08, 2018, 07:52:58 PM
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1049320740191981570

Lots of corroborating evidence for this position.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 08, 2018, 07:58:50 PM
I like the libtard talking points "this guy doesn't have the temperament" or is "too partisan" to be justice, based on the fact he got pissed at them for acusing him of being serial gang rapist. 

I mean, how are you supposed to react to that????

 :lol:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 08, 2018, 08:09:33 PM
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1049320740191981570

Just like climate change  :curse:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 08, 2018, 09:04:15 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/j0a8Kr0uDKQec/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 09, 2018, 01:53:29 PM
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1049392738632839171
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2018, 10:25:53 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/us/politics/kavanaugh-women-law-clerks.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fpolitics

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 10, 2018, 08:54:51 AM
Huh, imagine that.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 10, 2018, 11:32:40 AM
"Please consider."

B. Kavanaugh
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 10, 2018, 11:38:53 AM
Kavanaugh! :curse:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Trim on October 10, 2018, 11:43:23 AM
"Please consider."

B. Kavanaugh

"Beauty on the Bench"

"You can use chambers for dressing rooms."
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 10, 2018, 12:38:24 PM
"Please consider."

B. Kavanaugh

"Beauty on the Bench"

"You can use chambers for dressing rooms."

Ha
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: steve dave on October 10, 2018, 12:59:48 PM
"Please consider."

B. Kavanaugh

"Beauty on the Bench"

"You can use chambers for dressing rooms."

 :lol: at both posts
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 10, 2018, 01:18:15 PM
I wanted to make a briefs joke but I'm scared Spracne will come in here and whip my ass for incorrect use of legal jargon.

It's a difficult time for young men indeed.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 10, 2018, 01:27:44 PM
"Please consider."

B. Kavanaugh

"Beauty on the Bench"

"You can use chambers for dressing rooms."

omg
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 10, 2018, 01:48:14 PM
Kav is like Napalm to the 24/7/365 LibBot Nation rage, just total  :curse:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 10, 2018, 02:17:28 PM
Does this go here?

https://tribunist.com/news/high-school-mean-girls-clique-sued-for-making-false-sexual-assault-allegations-against-classmate/
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 10, 2018, 02:44:22 PM
Does this go here?

https://tribunist.com/news/high-school-mean-girls-clique-sued-for-making-false-sexual-assault-allegations-against-classmate/

No.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 10, 2018, 02:45:32 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 10, 2018, 02:57:55 PM
https://www.brettkavanaugh.com/
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 10, 2018, 03:04:29 PM
https://www.brettkavanaugh.com/

We believe survivors . . . unless they're accusing Democrats (we'll then fall in line when the facilitators of the Democratic offender say it was "different")
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: ChiComCat on October 10, 2018, 03:17:10 PM
Does this go here?

https://tribunist.com/news/high-school-mean-girls-clique-sued-for-making-false-sexual-assault-allegations-against-classmate/

I am also against any of these girls being on the Supreme Court. 
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 10, 2018, 03:36:12 PM
Does this go here?

https://tribunist.com/news/high-school-mean-girls-clique-sued-for-making-false-sexual-assault-allegations-against-classmate/

I am also against any of these girls being on the Supreme Court.

second
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 10, 2018, 04:45:50 PM
Still thinking people can’t become productive members of society if they did something bad in high school. SMDH
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 10, 2018, 07:14:25 PM
Still thinking people can’t become productive members of society if they did something bad in high school. SMDH

Falsely accusing someone of rape = "did something bad."
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 10, 2018, 08:24:47 PM
Still thinking people can’t become productive members of society if they did something bad in high school. SMDH

Falsely accusing someone of rape = "did something bad."

Unless it's a Republican nominee for the SCOTUS
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: renocat on October 10, 2018, 08:35:04 PM
If Kavanaugh is a pervy assaulter, will he sit next to Ginsburg?  What horrible things will he whisper to her?
Hey Ginzy, what do you where under your robe?
Can i examine your briefs?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 10, 2018, 08:44:32 PM
Ginsberg supported BK's nomination
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 10, 2018, 10:10:27 PM
Still thinking people can’t become productive members of society if they did something bad in high school. SMDH

Falsely accusing someone of rape = "did something bad."

Would you accept "did something VERY bad"?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2018, 12:14:19 AM
There are only 9 US supreme court justices, catastrophe. So a false rape accusation in high school, or actually raping somebody, is disqualifying for the position. There are too many other qualified candidates who haven't done that.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2018, 12:27:03 AM
If you think of confirmation hearings as a job interview, it is very strange to me that people act so interested in a candidate having a spotless life record vs. actually showing they're good at the job they're interviewing for.  I mean, I think you have a much better argument that Kav's behavior at his confirmation hearing was disqualifying.

Call me a softy (or a pragmatist), but I'm probably never going to argue that any behavior of someone when they were a minor (or just barely an adult)--without more--should disqualify them for a position 35+ years down the road.  I've met murders that are totally decent people.  I might not let them babysit my kids, but I'd definitely recommend them for a job if they had the credentials.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2018, 08:10:40 AM
If you think of confirmation hearings as a job interview, it is very strange to me that people act so interested in a candidate having a spotless life record vs. actually showing they're good at the job they're interviewing for.  I mean, I think you have a much better argument that Kav's behavior at his confirmation hearing was disqualifying.

Call me a softy (or a pragmatist), but I'm probably never going to argue that any behavior of someone when they were a minor (or just barely an adult)--without more--should disqualify them for a position 35+ years down the road.  I've met murders that are totally decent people.  I might not let them babysit my kids, but I'd definitely recommend them for a job if they had the credentials.

You can become a decent person, sure. You just can't become the best candidate for a position that hundreds of people are more than qualified for when you have giant blemishes on your record like raping somebody when you were a teenager.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2018, 08:14:28 AM
I would also agree that it was Kav's confirmation hearing that was disqualifying to me. An uncorroborated accusation really isn't enough to disqualify someone. It is enough to generate the sort of hearing that Kavanaugh went through, and it's not unreasonable to expect the accused to act like the supreme court justice he believes he should be during that process. At the very least, he should be much more forthcoming and truthful than Kavanaugh was.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 11, 2018, 08:39:27 AM
If he would have shown no emotion after the leftists accused him of being a gang rapist (without evidence or corroboration) they would have said his uncaring demeanor is a tacit admission.

There was no way he could win. Frankly, I'm disgusted with all the people who continue to say he's a rapist, and who are completely glossing over the obvious and disgusting political game the Democrats played in orchestrating this outrageous clown show.

I hope they reap the whirlwind in November. Like Lindsey Graham said, they should never be given power.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2018, 08:43:46 AM
No one, except Lindsey, called him a gang rapist at his hearings
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2018, 08:50:39 AM
No one, except Lindsey, even brought up the subject or those allegations
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: ChiComCat on October 11, 2018, 08:50:51 AM
If you think of confirmation hearings as a job interview, it is very strange to me that people act so interested in a candidate having a spotless life record vs. actually showing they're good at the job they're interviewing for.  I mean, I think you have a much better argument that Kav's behavior at his confirmation hearing was disqualifying.

Call me a softy (or a pragmatist), but I'm probably never going to argue that any behavior of someone when they were a minor (or just barely an adult)--without more--should disqualify them for a position 35+ years down the road.  I've met murders that are totally decent people.  I might not let them babysit my kids, but I'd definitely recommend them for a job if they had the credentials.

How long does it need to be between sexual assaulting someone and a lifetime appointment to the highest court?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2018, 08:51:50 AM
Well it actually has to happen first.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2018, 08:54:08 AM
If you think of confirmation hearings as a job interview, it is very strange to me that people act so interested in a candidate having a spotless life record vs. actually showing they're good at the job they're interviewing for.  I mean, I think you have a much better argument that Kav's behavior at his confirmation hearing was disqualifying.

Call me a softy (or a pragmatist), but I'm probably never going to argue that any behavior of someone when they were a minor (or just barely an adult)--without more--should disqualify them for a position 35+ years down the road.  I've met murders that are totally decent people.  I might not let them babysit my kids, but I'd definitely recommend them for a job if they had the credentials.

How long does it need to be between sexual assaulting someone and a lifetime appointment to the highest court?

He already said he's fine with a murderer on the court as long as they are good at the job. I really doubt time is a deciding factor
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: wetwillie on October 11, 2018, 08:55:36 AM
We need a list of crimes ok to do the job with a burn it down line Steve Dave coach search style.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2018, 08:57:41 AM
Bill Clinton should be the over under name.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: ChiComCat on October 11, 2018, 08:59:30 AM
Bill Clinton should be the over under name.

The only way someone with his sexual past would be elected today would be as a Republican.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2018, 09:01:42 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2018, 09:02:47 AM
It's absolutely true
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: renocat on October 11, 2018, 09:21:18 AM
The most damning thing about Bill was not his loins, but his ruthlessness.  He gave birth to be nice while you cut someone's wallies off.  Dole .. he was a vet, but he an old senile bastard.  Obama used the same methods against McCain and Romney.
Now we see Demoleftist's real nature.
Mob.  And any action is okay to get what they want, and laws and elections don't apply to them.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 11, 2018, 10:08:45 AM
No one, except Lindsey, even brought up the subject or those allegations

You're rough ridin' delusional. Everyone of those lunatics demanded an fbi investigation (even though they were never ever going to vot to confirm) and repeatedly said "I believe these women"
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2018, 10:12:28 AM
It's amazing that you can be even more confused than chemo-brain bill
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 11, 2018, 10:13:42 AM
Pffft, time to take a break, little feller
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2018, 10:29:40 AM

How long does it need to be between sexual assaulting someone and a lifetime appointment to the highest court?

He already said he's fine with a murderer on the court as long as they are good at the job. I really doubt time is a deciding factor

Time definitely matters. That is what convinces me the initial offense was a stupid mistake they grew from and not a symptom of a more deeply seeded issue. I’d say probably a minimum of 10 years of full integration into society without any slip ups for the more heinous crimes.

Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: ChiComCat on October 11, 2018, 10:36:08 AM
I think we can find 9 qualified people without a history of sexual assault
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 11, 2018, 10:58:27 AM
Thing is, by any reasonable person's standard of truth, we have 9 people without a history of sexual assault.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
7
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 11, 2018, 11:05:13 AM
PARTY IN THE CHIEFS THREAD GUYS!
Title: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2018, 11:08:44 AM
I think we can find 9 qualified people without a history of sexual assault

Sure, you could probably find squeaky clean qualified candidates for any job. The question is, when deciding between two or more qualified candidates, what is the deciding factor? It sounds like if you were making the decisions it would be to choose the one with the cleanest background. We just disagree on that point. I’ve interviewed a decent number of people and can tell you that how someone behaved in high school or undergrad is pretty far down my list of things I care about.

Now I admit that can change based on the job, but I think it’s more fair to compare the Supreme Court to a results-driven business or firm than a nanny or other kind of caregiver (in which case I’d care a lot more about how they act vs how smart and hard working they are).
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2018, 11:23:03 AM
I don't think the supreme court should be compared to a results-driven business. They are going to get a result out of every case they hear, and whether that result is right or wrong has more to do with their character than anything else, really. If all you really care about is which party they side with, then the president should just be picking state-level party chairs to fill the positions.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2018, 11:27:04 AM
I don't think the supreme court should be compared to a results-driven business. They are going to get a result out of every case they hear, and whether that result is right or wrong has more to do with their character than anything else, really. If all you really care about is which party they side with, then the president should just be picking state-level party chairs to fill the positions.

Today, the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 to send the radical socialist kickboxing lesbian native American back to the reservation
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: michigancat on October 11, 2018, 11:27:56 AM
OK now I'm 100% convinced catastrophe was rapey in HS.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2018, 02:17:14 PM
Of course you are, because you like many Americans are a dumbass who doesn’t base his opinion on facts.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 11, 2018, 02:41:40 PM
It's apparent the creepy "repellant to the opposite sex" demographic was under represented on the court
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: michigancat on October 11, 2018, 03:17:52 PM
Of course you are, because you like many Americans are a dumbass who doesn’t base his opinion on facts.

I mean the facts I am using are your posts in this thread cheering against a sexual assault victim, even after she lost and the accused was off more than scott free
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
I think you missed the part where I said the accusations should be investigated by authorities who can actually prosecute them.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2018, 03:20:25 PM
Dumbass.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2018, 03:22:44 PM
I think you missed the part where I said the accusations should be investigated by authorities who can actually prosecute them.

I really doubt anyone can actually prosecute accusations as old as these.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2018, 03:28:11 PM
There’s no statute of limitations for the crime he’s accused of. If there’s enough evidence to convince you that the event actually happened, why wouldn’t there be enough evidence to convince 11 other jurors (or whatever the number is in MD)?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2018, 03:40:52 PM
You're joking right?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: ChiComCat on October 11, 2018, 03:46:09 PM
I think it is far more likely he assaulted her than not.  If I was a juror, there hasn't been enough evidence for me to convict him.  If I was interviewing him for a job, there has been enough evidence for me to pass.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2018, 03:53:21 PM
So in your fantasy land the prosecutor is saying: yeah we think it’s “far more likely than not” that he tried to rape the 15 year old, but what’s the point of bringing the case, no one is going to be convinced it ACTUALLY happened.

BTW - just so we’re on the same page, the standard in criminal cases is “beyond a reasonable doubt.” So if you’re saying it’s crazy to think a conviction is possible, you’re saying any person in their right mind has a good reason to doubt Ford’s allegations.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Trim on October 11, 2018, 03:55:33 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sys on October 11, 2018, 03:56:57 PM
There’s no statute of limitations for the crime he’s accused of.

i believe that's false, at least as far as the blasey-ford allegation.  i saw it reported somewhere that attempted rape was a misdemeanor in maryland at the time and subject to statute of limitations (unlike felony sexual crimes).

no idea on the yale allegation.  the avenatti allegation didn't actually accuse him of much, just written to imply crimes.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2018, 03:57:28 PM
Starting to think this is a tbt sock
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2018, 03:59:42 PM
There’s no statute of limitations for the crime he’s accused of.

i believe that's false, at least as far as the blasey-ford allegation.  i saw it reported somewhere that attempted rape was a misdemeanor in maryland at the time and subject to statute of limitations (unlike felony sexual crimes).

no idea on the yale allegation.  the avenatti allegation didn't actually accuse him of much, just written to imply crimes.

The statutes were changed in the 90's and not grandfathered for crimes before that's. I think it had already passed at that point anyway.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: ChiComCat on October 11, 2018, 04:00:51 PM
So in your fantasy land the prosecutor is saying: yeah we think it’s “far more likely than not” that he tried to rape the 15 year old, but what’s the point of bringing the case, no one is going to be convinced it ACTUALLY happened.


I think this is most of a prosecutor's job. 
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sys on October 11, 2018, 04:01:33 PM
eh.  i don't really understand this.  seems to me they're the same, except maybe for the ages of those involved.

Quote
Significantly, Ford’s particular allegation may also be barred at least in part by the state’s time limit on prosecutions. Although Maryland is one of few states without a statute of limitations on felony charges of rape and attempted rape, the incident Blasey Ford described—a crime of attempted rape between two minors (a 17-year-old boy or 15-year-old girl)—would have been a misdemeanor in 1982, though it’s a felony now. Crimes prosecuted years later are still punished according to the laws of the time: You can’t be charged for a felony without knowing you’re committing one.

Ford’s allegations could, however, lead to other felony charges that have no statutes of limitations in Maryland, including assault with the intent to rape, according to Thiru Vignarajah, Maryland’s former deputy attorney general.

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/09/maryland-statute-limitations/571507/
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 11, 2018, 08:37:17 PM
Starting to think this is a tbt sock

(https://i.giphy.com/media/elKMYwLxsZJV6/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: chum1 on October 12, 2018, 12:28:03 PM
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1050793433080713217
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 12, 2018, 12:40:07 PM
LibBot Nation has fully pivoted and now loves them some FBI.

Great work.

Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: chum1 on October 12, 2018, 12:57:57 PM
LibBot Nation has fully pivoted and now loves them some FBI.

Great work.

In case anyone else was wondering, the last post in this thread about the FBI investigation was 8 days and 8 pages ago.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 12, 2018, 01:11:00 PM
Sometimes you just tap out and play the hits
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 12, 2018, 01:11:29 PM
LibBot Nation has fully pivoted and now loves them some FBI.

Great work.

In case anyone else was wondering, the last post in this thread about the FBI investigation was 8 days and 8 pages ago.

Yet any real investigation is going to flow back through the FBI, at least the findings process before going to Congress (Senate).   

Apparently several thousand pages wasn't enough for you guys.   You guys are officially going ThermoNuclear, and it's fantastic.

Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 12, 2018, 01:16:33 PM
An example of how LibBot Nation's 24/7/365 power of a 1000 suns meltdown is impacting the economy.   SMDH, sad.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/05/the-kavanaugh-decision-might-have-cost-businesses-9-billion--so-far.html?recirc=taboolainternal
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Trim on October 12, 2018, 01:23:15 PM
If the OJ trial happened today, america would just have to close down life for a year.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 12, 2018, 01:26:16 PM
If the OJ trial happened today, america would just have to close down life for a year.

"OJ says there couldn't even be a double murder trial in today's PC climate"
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: mocat on October 12, 2018, 03:02:12 PM
if 9/11 happened today at least we'd get a decent view of the pentagon on somebody's samsung
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: wetwillie on October 12, 2018, 04:27:00 PM
if 9/11 happened today at least we'd get a decent view of the pentagon on somebody's samsung

I’m dead
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: bucket on October 24, 2018, 09:58:57 AM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1055078716219555845

This freakin' guy  :lol:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 24, 2018, 10:00:10 AM
He's worse than trump
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: ChiComCat on October 24, 2018, 11:03:04 AM
Meh, he's just the one being honest about it
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 24, 2018, 11:19:45 AM
He's either a coward or disingenuous
Title: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 24, 2018, 12:58:15 PM
Despite his name, Flake is a pretty reliable R vote. Philosophically it comes down to whether a cloud over a SCOTUS justice should DQ them. I don’t think there’s a clear right or wrong answer and don’t have an issue with Flake basically admitting that’s what happened here.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 28, 2018, 01:03:06 PM
https://twitter.com/realjameswoods/status/1056567740520112128?s=21
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Spracne on October 28, 2018, 02:23:39 PM
https://twitter.com/realjameswoods/status/1056567740520112128?s=21

Avenatti is such a turd
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 28, 2018, 03:22:10 PM
Yes, total slime ball
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 28, 2018, 07:52:25 PM
AMAZE

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/10/27/nbcs-kate-snow-heres-didnt-publish-story-avenattis-2nd-witness-now/

Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 28, 2018, 08:04:04 PM
Why do you guys think they’d do that? :frown:
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 29, 2018, 08:08:58 AM
I guess that explains why the Dems on the judiciary committee never asked about those allegations.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: catastrophe on October 29, 2018, 08:14:15 AM
Also “news value was limited” is probably the lamest excuse I’ve ever heard for not publishing a story you apparently worked on for weeks. Very bad look for NBC.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: star seed 7 on October 29, 2018, 08:18:56 AM
After the crap NBC has pulled over the last few years they should seriously shut down their news department
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 04, 2018, 03:57:46 PM
Would be great if these liars went to prison

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/no-evidence-to-back-kavanaugh-accusers-claims-senate-panels-report-on-fbi-probe-finds
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sys on December 19, 2018, 01:01:51 PM
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/inside-georgetown-prep-culture-of-omerta-scandal?mbid=social_twitter&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=twitter&utm_brand=vf&utm_medium=social
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Katpappy on December 20, 2018, 12:18:59 AM
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/inside-georgetown-prep-culture-of-omerta-scandal?mbid=social_twitter&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=twitter&utm_brand=vf&utm_medium=social


Sys, how in the world do you get time to read these books?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 15, 2019, 12:03:18 PM
https://twitter.com/katekelly/status/1172952784095895552
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 15, 2019, 12:05:36 PM
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1173231877181857795
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: 8manpick on September 15, 2019, 12:18:41 PM
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1173231877181857795
The first time he tweeted, he said liable instead of libel
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Spracne on September 15, 2019, 12:47:29 PM
Recrimination? No way he wrote that.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 15, 2019, 01:01:09 PM
He apparently did confuse liable and libel and that's pretty consistent with being a medium functioning moron so...
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2019, 12:09:40 PM
This reading as being pretty desperate stuff, but not surprising.



Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 16, 2019, 12:28:22 PM
This reading as being pretty desperate stuff, but not surprising.

Do you agree that he should sue for liable?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2019, 12:29:24 PM
This reading as being pretty desperate stuff, but not surprising.

Do you agree that he should sue for liable?

I didn't read that part, I just  :lol: at knowing how hard Useful Idiot LibDerp Nation is going to run with this.

Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: meow meow on September 16, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
spell like a dumbass to own the libs
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: bucket on September 16, 2019, 05:07:20 PM
https://twitter.com/RexHuppke/status/1173634328959553536
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2019, 06:05:01 PM
Sounds kind of homophobic, Bucket.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: bucket on September 16, 2019, 06:24:53 PM
Sounds kind of homophobic, Bucket.

Ridiculing someone for rejecting the claim of an alleged sexual assault victim because they fail to describe the assailant's genitalia isn't homophobic.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2019, 08:00:15 PM
Sounds kind of homophobic, Bucket.

Ridiculing someone for rejecting the claim of an alleged sexual assault victim because they fail to describe the assailant's genitalia isn't homophobic.


Well, I suppose you’re way more up on all things Shapiro than I am. 

Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: LickNeckey on September 16, 2019, 09:18:57 PM
https://twitter.com/RexHuppke/status/1173634328959553536

have no idea how i have avoided hearing Shapiros voice until now

wow he is annoying
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 17, 2019, 08:31:15 AM
This reading as being pretty desperate stuff, but not surprising.

Do you agree that he should sue for liable?

I didn't read that part, I just  :lol: at knowing how hard Useful Idiot LibDerp Nation is going to run with this.

Lmfao, I love you
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sys on July 13, 2021, 06:08:05 PM
heh.

https://twitter.com/John_Scotus/status/1415081509027926016
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sys on August 06, 2022, 07:28:31 PM
was kind obvious at the time.

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1555922824837177345
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 07, 2022, 10:21:21 AM
dax has to turn on brett now.  hate to see it
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 07, 2022, 11:29:06 AM
#blueanon/#blueaongE has been all about the politicized not doing their job FBI for years now.

Karma?

Probably

Why work on this when there's CNN covered 5am raids on 75 year old men to get "accomplished"?

From where did the direction of this investigation came from . . . is it unprecedented?



Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 07, 2022, 11:33:27 AM
#blueanon/#blueaongE has been all about the politicized not doing their job FBI for years now.

Karma?

Probably

Why work on this when there's CNN covered 5am raids on 75 year old men to get "accomplished"?

From where the direction of this investigation came from . . . is it unprecedented?

But we all agree with Trump that Kav is total downgrade moron, right?
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 07, 2022, 11:45:56 AM
The higher than normal (which is already dangerously high) rage level he induces in #blueanon overrides all of that.

Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 07, 2022, 01:10:00 PM
The higher than normal (which is already dangerously high) rage level he induces in #blueanon overrides all of that.

Huh?  Does your brain tell you this post makes sense?  And you had to edit ?

Gibberish aside, do we agree with Trump that Brett is a total moron ?  Surely your brain can function enough to answer that simple question.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 07, 2022, 01:28:43 PM
The higher than normal (which is already dangerously high) rage level he induces in #blueanon overrides all of that.

Huh?  Does your brain tell you this post makes sense?  And you had to edit ?

Gibberish aside, do we agree with Trump that Brett is a total moron ?  Surely your brain can function enough to answer that simple question.

Only a derp doesn't understand what I said.

I don't think he's any more of a moron than the #blueanon derps on SCOTUS.  Certainly no where close to the moron levels of #blueanon thought leaders and political leaders that want to change the rules because they can't get their way 24/7/365 which is 1000% #onbrand.

The "credible accusations" claim of that article is just  :lol: :lol: .  Since when has #blueanon labeled anything against their enemies, no matter how insane, as not being credible??

That little Vanity Fair rage vignette then fails to properly address the reality that White House directed investigations are . . . White House directed investigations and have been the privilege of the White House for decades.   

That was just pure derp #blueanon rage jet fuel, nothing more.













Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 07, 2022, 03:54:57 PM
Dax agreeing with me that Trump is a obese bull crap artist is fun!
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 07, 2022, 04:38:31 PM
#deflectodug on a roll this weekend

#onbrand
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2022, 01:12:34 PM
#deflectodug on a roll this weekend

#onbrand

add "spines" to gyms and salad bars on the list of things in short supply in Alabama.
Title: Re: Remember the Kavanaugh!! Republican war cry in defeating ruthless Dems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 08, 2022, 03:12:44 PM
#deflectodug on a roll this weekend

#onbrand

add "spines" to gyms and salad bars on the list of things in short supply in Alabama.

I'm in KC often, based on what I've observed, lot more Q, double cheeseburgers and cheese fries being downed than salads and fruit.  But I digress. 

What you previously posted made no sense, and what you post rarely ever does.

BK:  Not quite as derpy as the #blueanon's who want to change the rules (again) because they're mad (as usual)