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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: CHONGS on September 01, 2018, 06:49:48 PM
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Guys I has concerns
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Duke Shelly rough ridin' blows. Oline rough ridin' blows. TEs blow
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Maybe this is a scheme?
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Like maybe make our opps think we have the slowest team in the B12?
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They are better at most positions
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now that it's televised, i suspect the team will respond.
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TFW Dimel and Hayes were the only reasons we even had Bowl quality teams. :frown:
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What if Dana was really the one holding it all together....
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Stadium needs more rap music
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They are really going after Shelley
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You just don't see these kind of mistakes with a LHC Bill Snyder coached team.
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KU looks better right now.
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Jesus we are bad.
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nothing wrong with this team that barnes not being the worst running back in the history of running backs wouldn't fix.
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Sam Sizelove is very very slow. More like Slow Slowlove.
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God damn Bill needs to go. I cannot believe how awful we look. This may be a long season.
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God damn Bill needs to go. I cannot believe how awful we look. This may be a long season.
I do love these a lot
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warmack just runs through these coyotes like they aren't very good.
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I wonder if we drop a higher % of passes than any other other cfb team. It's such a shock watching other teams catch passes that aren't perfectly on target.
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snyder looks dead, especially in the chest and shoulders area.
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Are there camera angles weird?
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Blake Lynch though :billdance:
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Idk where the thread is but Blake lunch is my guy
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It seems easy to avoid blocking in the back. Like, if the person's back is to you, don't block them.
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keep in mind that this is the university of south dakota, not southern dakota state university, like i'm seeing a lot of.
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The scheme doctor is in.
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keep in mind that this is the university of south dakota, not southern dakota state university, like i'm seeing a lot of.
Explains a lot
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Guys I has concerns
Lift the ban broski
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This is just Snyder's 4D chess plan to make Mississippi State think we suck.
Or, we actually suck.
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Guys I has concerns
Lift the ban broski
What ban? I will...
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if we can outpoint them using field goals, while they rely on cheap touchdowns, that's a sort of dominance right there.
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if we can outpoint them using field goals, while they rely on cheap touchdowns, that's a sort of dominance right there.
I almost posted something like that!
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Guys I has concerns
Lift the ban broski
What ban? I will...
Do the right thing my dude
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Guys I has concerns
Lift the ban broski
What ban? I will...
Do the right thing my dude
Ok I think I fixed it
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Pretty obvious the scheme here is to show that ST is the only group who is any good so Sean should be the HC.
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It seems easy to avoid blocking in the back. Like, if the person's back is to you, don't block them.
They changed the rule this season. Now even blocks from the side are illegal.
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The refs are shittier than the team.
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I guess Winnie was the key to the red zone offense after all
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Alright fellas, it’s been real. Chingon and pete are too hurt to lift the ban. I’m outtie 5000.
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this is going to be controversial, but i believe that for as long as the game is relatively low scoring, willie should do full, deep pushups for the traditional celebratory pushup count. obviously, i don't expect a mascot to do hundreds of full pushups in a high scoring game; however he should not assume that the game will be high scoring. he should start with full pushups and then gradually transition to shallow pushups as the score elevates.
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i'm sorry you're banned, kim carnes. but oth, you have to admit that chingon and pete's decision is justified.
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If we aren't scheming the eff out of MSST we may be the worst team in the FBS.
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if we can outpoint them using field goals, while they rely on cheap touchdowns, that's a sort of dominance right there.
I almost posted something like that!
they scored another touchdown, chingon. which tells me that they are concerned about their ability to score on a high percentage of possessions.
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LMAO
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:flush:
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:flush:
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Where's Ron Prince when you need him? eff. :frown:
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Still attempting to care at this point. Not really working.
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:flush:
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Three wins?
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Thank God for oscar
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This team is like a cos-play version of a 90s team. Except with even less ability to pass a football.
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only down four field goals going into the half. and recent history suggests we should easily be able to score four field goals per half. one thing to keep in mind is that while wildcats are considered better fighters pound for pound, coyotes are larger, and being canines, are capable of exerting greater bite forces.
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In twenty three years I can't remember a worse half of football. That first half team is an 0-12 team.
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:bs: :bs:
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Just think how great it will be if we can come back to win!
:Woot:
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It's the fb equivalent of our marching band.
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Honest question: are they actually the more talented team? I think they might be, even if we miraculously come back to win.
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Their receiving corps is way more talented.
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If it wasn't for KU there's no doubt we'd have the least talent in the b12
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Honest question: are they actually the more talented team? I think they might be, even if we miraculously come back to win.
if we miraculously come back to win that will prove that we're the more talented team.
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I'm most worried that if we get kicked out of a Power Conference we won't even be able to dominate there, as I once thought we could for awhile.
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Wizard tho
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Delton hasn't seen a heavily covered WR he didnt think was open.
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one area where we could easily improve would be in the field of not throwing the ball to the opposing team.
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another would be in not playing barnes, who is the slowest person i have ever seen play football on tv.
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eff these god damn refs.
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Scboen sucks
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You just don't see these kind of mistakes with a LHC Bill Snyder coached team.
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Zuber has a pulse but everyone else running routes is 1 step above the walking dead.
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we need an interception and fg here to bring us back within three scores.
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What if these new coaches suck?
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South Dakota would be a pick’em against KU on a neutral field.
Gulp.
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lol, stick to touchdowns, coyotes. maybe just stick to touchdowns, eh.
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if south dakota holds on to win this one, a lot of you posters that have historically opposed consolidating the dakotas into a single state will have some soul searching to do.
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So we're stomping a 49-7 mudhole in these guys, right?
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What if these new coaches suck?
What do you mean by "What if"?
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I'm starting to suspect that our O line has once again been vastly overrated.
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Maybe we're doing some Goku like training and have weighted clothing?
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Oh well there's always 9 wins after this one.
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in these early games, i usually just focus on the defensive side of the ball. i find that has greater predictive power over the long run.
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This team is pretty shitty right now
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oh man, the university of kansas is losing to something called nicholls, if you can believe that.
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Still just listening. Does it look like Bill even knows what is going on? Is he paying attention, or is he just wandering around looking at the sky?
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He waits for an injury then strolls onto the field.
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i like the way our defense is responding, to be honest. per aspera, boys.
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Bill's thinking: "Damn glad I signed the extension before this abortion"
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They could use a 7 linebacker defense and have no problems.
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Next week's game...yeesh. :blindfold:
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this is going to be controversial, but i believe that for as long as the game is relatively low scoring, willie should do full, deep pushups for the traditional celebratory pushup count. obviously, i don't expect a mascot to do hundreds of full pushups in a high scoring game; however he should not assume that the game will be high scoring. he should start with full pushups and then gradually transition to shallow pushups as the score elevates.
i hate to harp on this, but here we are at the end of the third quarter and our wildcats have notched four field goals. a little quick math tell me that that's a total of 30 pushups. now my best days may be behind me, but you can't tell me that our beloved mascot isn't capable of doing 30 full, deep pushups over the course of the three fourths of a game.
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rough ridin' hell
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some of you are probably thinking - "wait, willie can't do full, deep pushups, you fool. because of his oversized head." well, i'm sorry, willie apologists, all he has to do is move forward on the platform so that the head hangs off. it's a non-issue.
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Scboen sucks
Yup quoting my own [sic] ass post
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man our wr's are some hot dogshit
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It looks like the 360 is complete. We are officially the worst FBS team in the nation now. You can take a bow and retire now, Snyds.
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Now now, there's always KU.
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keep in mind, through significant difficulty, the defense is pitching a second half (crunch time) shutout.
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Two possession game!!
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i do admit, shifting strategies towards scoring touchdowns reeks of vulgar desperation.
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really looking forward to this show with the guy from castle
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really looking forward to this show with the guy from castle
Is that who that was? He's gotten old.
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12-0! 12-0! 12-0!
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i'm not saying it's unwarranted. it's the fourth quarter after all. i just wish we didn't have to stoop to this level.
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Now now, there's always KU.
Two Goliaths in a battle for the ages.
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Did they just wake up? Or was it just slow-playing this whole time?
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the heroism of this defense, my goodness. in the long dark history of this unfortunate world, have so many ever owed so much to so few?
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Looking forward to that LSU game tomorrow. Go purple cats.
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Let it roll. Let it roll on full flood, inexorable, irresistible, benignant, to longer runs and better plays.
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really looking forward to this show with the guy from castle
Is that who that was? He's gotten old.
I think he looks the same!
the day baseball game promo is really really bad
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really looking forward to this show with the guy from castle
Is that who that was? He's gotten old.
I think he looks the same!
the day baseball game promo is really really bad
Karl Raviech looks like he ate Karl Raviech.
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We don't deserve Zuber.
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We don't deserve Zuber.
he's the exception to the garbage WR rule
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We're the best!!!!
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zuber! that was impressive grip strength
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Dude skips the chalk.
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i believe we've broken their spirit now.
that's how coyotes are, brave in the pack, brave when the way is easy. but craven when the going goes against them. people call them little wolves but they have not the noble spirit, the hopeless valor of a wolf. they lack that canine essence so beloved of humanity.
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One video board has herpes and another is drunk
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That Kansas heat finally caught up with them
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it's a mark of our group excellence that we can use the slowest running back in the history (modern era) of collegiate football and he's still unstoppable.
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Barnes is absolutely terrible.
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:sdeek:
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Are they going to Iowa State us?
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Kick Barnes off the team
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:sdeek:
the hot blood of a young coach. a grey hair or two will slake his thirst for glory.
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oh man, the university of kansas is losing to something called nicholls, if you can believe that.
lmao. oh, lmao. imagine it, gentlemen, a state university of kansas losing to such a thing as a nicholls.
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if an offsides penalty is on everyone but the center, isn't it really on the center?
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Why is an FCS team getting the benefit of every close call playing on the road against a Big 12 team?
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lololololol
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ad astra per aspera, fellow wildcats. as our founding fathers so wisely set us forth years ago.
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trash fire
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Never in doubt
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Never doubted this team for a second! :ksu:
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Gritty
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Barnes :flush:
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OP: I, too, am worried
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Who the eff called the "Paul Rhodes run-it-don't-down-it" play should be fired. That was the dumbest play call ever.
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the "Good" in the "We're the Kansas Team that's Good at Football" should be in quotes, or at least "We at least beat our FCS team"
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Who the eff called the "Paul Rhodes run-it-don't-down-it" play should be fired. That was the dumbest play call ever.
South Dakota had three timeouts though, right?
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Who the eff called the "Paul Rhodes run-it-don't-down-it" play should be fired. That was the dumbest play call ever.
South Dakota had three timeouts though, right?
Two
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Who the eff called the "Paul Rhodes run-it-don't-down-it" play should be fired. That was the dumbest play call ever.
Post game per Bill their chart indicated they needed to run it with USD having 2 time outs.
Tom
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Who the eff called the "Paul Rhodes run-it-don't-down-it" play should be fired. That was the dumbest play call ever.
South Dakota had three timeouts though, right?
I think it's rather take my chances with kicking a field goal with about 10 seconds left
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Um yea. Or at least don’t give it to the guy who fumbled earlier in the game.
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Who the eff called the "Paul Rhodes run-it-don't-down-it" play should be fired. That was the dumbest play call ever.
South Dakota had three timeouts though, right?
I think it's rather take my chances with kicking a field goal with about 10 seconds left
Fact, at least force it to be a TD from like the entire damn field.
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Who the eff called the "Paul Rhodes run-it-don't-down-it" play should be fired. That was the dumbest play call ever.
Post game per Bill their chart indicated they needed to run it with USD having 2 time outs.
Tom
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The failure t9 recognize, even 20minufes later, the idiocacy of that call, really concerns me.
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Who the eff called the "Paul Rhodes run-it-don't-down-it" play should be fired. That was the dumbest play call ever.
that's easy to say from the stands. down on the sands of the arena, with a competitor's blood thundering through your veins and your opponent splayed helpless before you, what hot-blooded coach could resist urging on to the kill.
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I’ve seen my share of terrible football, but I have never seen so many horrible mistakes, costly officiating errors, and just bad luck all combined in one game. Ever. This must be what Iowa State feels like all the time. We even fumbled at the end when all we really needed to do was take a knee.
I guess the only positives I can find are (1) our kicking game, (2) Thompson and Zuber showed some grit when the game was on the line, and (3) we somehow avoided the most embarrassing loss in the Snyder era.
Our defense is horrific. Our o-line isn’t much better. Buckle up for a rough season.
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Who the eff called the "Paul Rhodes run-it-don't-down-it" play should be fired. That was the dumbest play call ever.
that's easy to say from the stands. down on the sands of the arena, with a competitor's blood thundering through your veins and your opponent splayed helpless before you, what hot-blooded coach could resist urging on to the kill.
Not Paul Rhodes.
Or, apparently, LHC Bill Snyder and offensive coordinators coleman, Klein, and Dickey.
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I’ve seen my share of terrible football, but I have never seen so many horrible mistakes, costly officiating errors, and just bad luck all combined in one game. Ever. This must be what Iowa State feels like all the time. We even fumbled at the end when all we really needed to do was take a knee.
I guess the only positives I can find are (1) our kicking game, (2) Thompson showed some grit when the game was on the line, and (3) we somehow avoided the most embarrassing loss in the Snyder era.
Our defense is horrific. Our o-line isn’t much better. Buckle up for a rough season.
Aside from Shelley getting torched in the first half and Sullivan leaving the game, I saw a lot to like about the defense.
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I don't believe I have ever heard SYS so poetic in his postings as he was this evening.....good work sir! :thumbsup:
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Are the NCAA rules limiting the amount of time a team can practice hurting game preparation. Don't seem as prepared as we used to be for games. Discipline problems and penalties seem to be a symptoms of this.
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I’ve seen my share of terrible football, but I have never seen so many horrible mistakes, costly officiating errors, and just bad luck all combined in one game. Ever. This must be what Iowa State feels like all the time. We even fumbled at the end when all we really needed to do was take a knee.
I guess the only positives I can find are (1) our kicking game, (2) Thompson showed some grit when the game was on the line, and (3) we somehow avoided the most embarrassing loss in the Snyder era.
Our defense is horrific. Our o-line isn’t much better. Buckle up for a rough season.
Aside from Shelley getting torched in the first half and Sullivan leaving the game, I saw a lot to like about the defense.
We gave up about 300 passing yards and 20 first downs to an FCS team. That’s horrific. But I guess congrats on finally getting stops in the second half. After going down 12 points to an FCS team.
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The entire team, and coaching staff should run stairs to the crack of dawn! :lol:
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I’ve seen my share of terrible football, but I have never seen so many horrible mistakes, costly officiating errors, and just bad luck all combined in one game. Ever. This must be what Iowa State feels like all the time. We even fumbled at the end when all we really needed to do was take a knee.
I guess the only positives I can find are (1) our kicking game, (2) Thompson showed some grit when the game was on the line, and (3) we somehow avoided the most embarrassing loss in the Snyder era.
Our defense is horrific. Our o-line isn’t much better. Buckle up for a rough season.
Aside from Shelley getting torched in the first half and Sullivan leaving the game, I saw a lot to like about the defense.
We gave up about 300 passing yards and 20 first downs to an FCS team. That’s horrific. But I guess congrats on finally getting stops in the second half. After going down 12 points to an FCS team.
It was 250 yards and they did throw it 56 times. I liked the new guys Kevion and Patton. I thought Walker looked good too which is great news after a down season last year. Four turnovers gave their offense a lot more life.
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They only had two timeouts and Barnes had already fumbled twice in the game. Lost one and the other luckily barely got out of bounds. Giving him the ball in that situation was so beyond stupid I don’t know what to say.
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I’ve seen my share of terrible football, but I have never seen so many horrible mistakes, costly officiating errors, and just bad luck all combined in one game. Ever. This must be what Iowa State feels like all the time. We even fumbled at the end when all we really needed to do was take a knee.
I guess the only positives I can find are (1) our kicking game, (2) Thompson showed some grit when the game was on the line, and (3) we somehow avoided the most embarrassing loss in the Snyder era.
Our defense is horrific. Our o-line isn’t much better. Buckle up for a rough season.
Aside from Shelley getting torched in the first half and Sullivan leaving the game, I saw a lot to like about the defense.
We gave up about 300 passing yards and 20 first downs to an FCS team. That’s horrific. But I guess congrats on finally getting stops in the second half. After going down 12 points to an FCS team.
It was 250 yards and they did throw it 56 times. I liked the new guys Kevion and Patton. I thought Walker looked good too which is great news after a down season last year. Four turnovers gave their offense a lot more life.
Fair enough. But it just felt like they gave up waaaay too many damned third and longs tonight.
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some of you are probably thinking - "wait, willie can't do full, deep pushups, you fool. because of his oversized head." well, i'm sorry, willie apologists, all he has to do is move forward on the platform so that the head hangs off. it's a non-issue.
How heavy is the oversized head? Maybe hanging the head off of the platform is a no-go because of weight distribution? The guy has scrawny arms, I’m worried that he is very top heavy and would cause (more) embarrassment for our university. ???
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I’ve seen my share of terrible football, but I have never seen so many horrible mistakes, costly officiating errors, and just bad luck all combined in one game. Ever. This must be what Iowa State feels like all the time. We even fumbled at the end when all we really needed to do was take a knee.
I guess the only positives I can find are (1) our kicking game, (2) Thompson and Zuber showed some grit when the game was on the line, and (3) we somehow avoided the most embarrassing loss in the Snyder era.
Our defense is horrific. Our o-line isn’t much better. Buckle up for a rough season.
I think the Auburn game might have been worse in terms of costly mistakes
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I’ve seen my share of terrible football, but I have never seen so many horrible mistakes, costly officiating errors, and just bad luck all combined in one game. Ever. This must be what Iowa State feels like all the time. We even fumbled at the end when all we really needed to do was take a knee.
I guess the only positives I can find are (1) our kicking game, (2) Thompson showed some grit when the game was on the line, and (3) we somehow avoided the most embarrassing loss in the Snyder era.
Our defense is horrific. Our o-line isn’t much better. Buckle up for a rough season.
Aside from Shelley getting torched in the first half and Sullivan leaving the game, I saw a lot to like about the defense.
We gave up about 300 passing yards and 20 first downs to an FCS team. That’s horrific. But I guess congrats on finally getting stops in the second half. After going down 12 points to an FCS team.
It was 250 yards and they did throw it 56 times. I liked the new guys Kevion and Patton. I thought Walker looked good too which is great news after a down season last year. Four turnovers gave their offense a lot more life.
Fair enough. But it just felt like they gave up waaaay too many damned third and longs tonight.
We've been giving up third and longs left and right for the last ten years. We've given up more third and longs than any team I've ever seen. It's gotten to the point where I'm more nervous on a third and ten than a third and three.
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I’ve seen my share of terrible football, but I have never seen so many horrible mistakes, costly officiating errors, and just bad luck all combined in one game. Ever. This must be what Iowa State feels like all the time. We even fumbled at the end when all we really needed to do was take a knee.
I guess the only positives I can find are (1) our kicking game, (2) Thompson and Zuber showed some grit when the game was on the line, and (3) we somehow avoided the most embarrassing loss in the Snyder era.
Our defense is horrific. Our o-line isn’t much better. Buckle up for a rough season.
I think the Auburn game might have been worse in terms of costly mistakes
Had to settle for three red zone field goals against an FCS team, including a dropped wide open TD pass that my mom could have made during TG touch football.
4-0 turnover ratio, including one when taking a knee would have sealed the game. And a fifth fumble out of bounds.
An 85 yard punt return called back on an illegal block that was both ticky tack and did not affect the play. A 60 yard interception negated by a phantom pass interference call.
A bobbled pass for an INT.
13 PENALTIES FOR 129 YARDS.
That’s just off the top of my head. Last night was a nightmare combination of things going wrong. And I’m not even including the fact that our defense played like dogshit for over half the game. Very lucky to have won.
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I’ve seen my share of terrible football, but I have never seen so many horrible mistakes, costly officiating errors, and just bad luck all combined in one game. Ever. This must be what Iowa State feels like all the time. We even fumbled at the end when all we really needed to do was take a knee.
I guess the only positives I can find are (1) our kicking game, (2) Thompson showed some grit when the game was on the line, and (3) we somehow avoided the most embarrassing loss in the Snyder era.
Our defense is horrific. Our o-line isn’t much better. Buckle up for a rough season.
Aside from Shelley getting torched in the first half and Sullivan leaving the game, I saw a lot to like about the defense.
We gave up about 300 passing yards and 20 first downs to an FCS team. That’s horrific. But I guess congrats on finally getting stops in the second half. After going down 12 points to an FCS team.
I mean, 10 of those points, 7 specifically, were not the defense's fault but ok
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What was everyone’s favorite worst moment last night? For me, I think it was the interception negated by a bullshit pass interference call, capped off with an extra 15yds for unsportsmanlike conduct.
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Honest question: are they actually the more talented team? I think they might be, even if we miraculously come back to win.
Yes, they were.
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Honest question: are they actually the more talented team? I think they might be, even if we miraculously come back to win.
if we miraculously come back to win that will prove that we're the more talented team.
This is not true.
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The defense rebounded nicely, and they were put in terrible situations for most of the game.
If they could clean up the turnovers, penalties, and actually punch it into the endzone in the first half, obv a totally different game, but that is a lot to clean up.
Really, they looked almost nervous and disjointed the whole game. It wasn't really until the punt return they seemed to relax and actually play. It was like they were trying so hard to not make a mistake, that they made mistakes.
The offense still at times looked like it flows better with Delton, but Thompson got the job done. Zuber was great. Rest of the wide receivers need to learn to catch the ball. The one that gave up the bobbled INT should still be running this morning. Same with the damn tight end.
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One video board has herpes and another is drunk
That was the weirdest thing. There were two giant rows of pixels out in the NW board and the NE one was stuck playing highlights.
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What was everyone’s favorite worst moment last night? For me, I think it was the interception negated by a bullshit pass interference call, capped off with an extra 15yds for unsportsmanlike conduct.
Yeah, that was really up there. Barnes' late fumble probably is it for me.
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Oh yeah, Lynch is a giant 5'5" stud
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Maybe this is like the 1997 Ohio game when I was all like wtf how did we only beat this team by 3 but then we went on to be awesome that year anyway?
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The delay of game on the cats final drive on 3rd and inches was mind bogglingly stupid. Offense hasn't moved the ball all game and just decides to make it harder. What were they saving the timeouts for?
Also, was that PI call at the end of the game legit? Looked like bullshit to me.
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another would be in not playing barnes, who is the slowest person i have ever seen play football on tv.
He probably could have had 1 or 2 long TD runs if he had reasonable speed.
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The delay of game on the cats final drive on 3rd and inches was mind bogglingly stupid. Offense hasn't moved the ball all game and just decides to make it harder. What were they saving the timeouts for?
Also, was that PI call at the end of the game legit? Looked like bullshit to me.
Bills justification after the game was there was too much time left for them to call timeout. That if we got the first we couldn’t run the clock out. That was basically his answer to why we got the delay. :confused:
It was not legit. The WR pulled our DB down(can’t remember who it was) with his arm. I was going rough ridin' nuts on the side judge. He threw the flag before the play actually happened.
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Maybe this is like the 1997 Ohio game when I was all like wtf how did we only beat this team by 3 but then we went on to be awesome that year anyway?
Or eastern Kentucky in 2011. Or like the majority of first games we’ve played under Grandpa Obsessive Compulsive
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Pretty sure the bobbled catch for an INT was a metaphor for the entire game up to that point. The fumble when a knee would have sufficed was just horrendous... the fact our D let them get down to our side of the field was just embarrassing. Someone needs to send their kicker a diagonal hand-written note with purple ink and say thank you.
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We need some purple kool-aid!
1. Blake Lynch made four FG's and all XP's and looked very good!
2. Reggie Walker showed some burst. Like the fact we are rotating DLineman so they are not dead at end of season from playing every snap.
3. McGee showed some cover skills.
4. Zuber has some skills in the return game and can be our go to receiver.
5. We got all the crazy crap out of our system in the first game!!!
6. Skylar Thompson is very good in crunch time.
7. Patton is much faster than Tanking and Kirby. He will be a star after a few games.
8. Eli Walker may be the best athlete on defense. Glad to see him on the field.
9. Our new long snappers had all good snaps...don't take this element for granted!
10. Defense pitched a shutout in the second half.
We are 1-0. A win this week will have us all dancing. :billdance:
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Why has Duke Shelley regressed so much? They went after him all night and it worked. He seemed to behind the receiver all night.
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I’m just spitballing here but maybe he’s not in shape enough to do kick returns AND play defense? I mean I have no idea why he is returning kicks. He did look like garbage and I would interested to see how many targets he had, because it looked like a crap ton.
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He legitimately had a TD kick return, the block in the back was garbage. So I mean...I dunno. I guess what I'm saying is that if I'm looking for qualities in a kick returner, the ability to run one back is pretty high on that list
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Zuber took one to the house too and him returning kicks didn’t impact his main position. I guess that’s my only concern, if him returning kicks leads to him playing D like he did then he shouldn’t ever return kicks again.
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Shelley had a lot of tackles last night. After long pass completions. The guy was a containment monster.
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I’m pretty convinced at this point that Sky would have won last year’s bowl game if we just left him in (obviously Delton was capable enough to win too). Sky just lives for the fourth quarter.
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I’m pretty convinced at this point that Sky would have won last year’s bowl game if we just left him in (obviously Delton was capable enough to win too). Sky just lives for the fourth quarter.
UCLA's run defense suck(s)ed. Delton was the obvious choice in that game.
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I think that Snyder likes scheming so much that he makes it harder on himself by recruiting slow and/or unathletic players. Like a self imposed handicap just to see if he can do it.
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Haven’t seen much discussion of play calling out of the new coordinators. Was it the same bend but don’t break defensive scheme and short side options all day er’y day from the O?
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Who the eff called the "Paul Rhodes run-it-don't-down-it" play should be fired. That was the dumbest play call ever.
Post game per Bill their chart indicated they needed to run it with USD having 2 time outs.
Tom
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The failure t9 recognize, even 20minufes later, the idiocacy of that call, really concerns me.
They only had two timeouts and Barnes had already fumbled twice in the game. Lost one and the other luckily barely got out of bounds. Giving him the ball in that situation was so beyond stupid I don’t know what to say.
Running the ball there was literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen on a college football field. There were 54 seconds left, so let's use the dumb chart Bill referenced. We take a knee on first down, only taking 2 seconds, time out USD, 52 seconds left. We take another knee, time out USD, 50 seconds, third down, no times out left. Third down we take another knee this time 41 seconds tick off, 2 seconds to run the play, 39 off of the play clock before we take a time out. That leaves 9 seconds, we take another knee. I actually punt from the 30, it takes more time, but let's say we take a knee. That leaves USD 7 seconds to go 50 yards to get into FG position they don't have time to take because they have no time outs. Game over.
This says nothing about the previous dumbest ever thing I've ever seen on a football field, the previous play, taking that delay of game on a third and 1.
That was the most unorganized, assy, coaching display I've ever seen.
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Haven’t seen much discussion of play calling out of the new coordinators. Was it the same bend but don’t break defensive scheme and short side options all day er’y day from the O?
The offense was exactly the same but of course we weren't going to see anything different this game. I am worried that when we got down 12 we went back to the QB runs between the tackles. It was effective but both guys took big shots.
I can't tell defensive schemes by looking at them but what I can tell you is that the DBs played much tighter when USD started hitting those quick hitters. I think that's why they didn't score in the second half, those were taken away for the most part and their receivers had a hard time separating. The quick hitters being taken away also gave the d-line more time.
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Yeah the run call was the most Iowa State-y thing we’ve probably ever done.
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Haven’t seen much discussion of play calling out of the new coordinators. Was it the same bend but don’t break defensive scheme and short side options all day er’y day from the O?
Along the same lines, with the younger coaching staff I was hoping to see more emotion from the players. Watching on tv, I didn't see that either.
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Honest question: are they actually the more talented team? I think they might be, even if we miraculously come back to win.
Yes, they were.
No they weren't, don't be silly. If they were the more talented team they would have won by 30. They had the turnover edge 4-0, the penalty edge by roughly a billion yards, and on that night the coaching edge. Talent was the sole reason we won, it sure as hell wasn't, coaching, discipline, or execution.
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Yeah the run call was the most Iowa State-y thing we’ve probably ever done.
It was absolutely worse than what Rhodes did, Proud Paul got unlucky along with his dunbfuckery. If he took a knee we get the ball back with around a minute left. They can't lose in regulation without two fumbles. We gave them a minute to beat us.
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Re “the chart”: it doesn’t have a column for “# of fumbles by your RB”. Which is why it’s the job of our highly compensated coaching staff to make a decision based on taking a measure of the friggin game instead of relying solely on a laminated card. That was so ISU it’s embarsssing but at least we escaped. :facepalm:
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Maybe this is like the 1997 Ohio game when I was all like wtf how did we only beat this team by 3 but then we went on to be awesome that year anyway?
I thought of the more recent game (201...1?) where we beat Eastern Kentucky 10-7.
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Re “the chart”: it doesn’t have a column for “# of fumbles by your RB”. Which is why it’s the job of our highly compensated coaching staff to make a decision based on taking a measure of the friggin game instead of relying solely on a laminated card. That was so ISU it’s embarsssing but at least we escaped. :facepalm:
Exactly.....the “chart”apparently doesn’t distinguish being at their 8 yard line already. As MIR pointed out above, we could have kneeled and left them with nine seconds, pinned way deep. But if you do feel like you have to run it one time, you take two knees first and force them to use their timeouts. Then, if you feel you have to run it once you do it on third or fourth down, so at least you have forced them to burn timeouts and you have run as much clock as possible.
Three years ago Coleman was the only one smart enough to realize we needed to go for against TCU. I had high hopes that he, or Klein, would bring a little common sense to our game management. Early results are very concerning. This staff doesn’t seem very smart at making quick, decisive, intelligent game management decisions.
I was also beyond annoyed that we had to call a timeout to get that two point conversion.....anybody would any foresight could’ve seen that we were going to need to go for two if we scored a td to go up one. I mean, I realized that scenario was a possibility from my couch, and I don’t make millions of dollars to do anything, let alone coach football.
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Re “the chart”: it doesn’t have a column for “# of fumbles by your RB”. Which is why it’s the job of our highly compensated coaching staff to make a decision based on taking a measure of the friggin game instead of relying solely on a laminated card. That was so ISU it’s embarsssing but at least we escaped. :facepalm:
Exactly.....the “chart”apparently doesn’t distinguish being at their 8 yard line already. As MIR pointed out above, we could have kneeled and left them with nine seconds, pinned way deep. But if you do feel like you have to run it one time, you take two knees first and force them to use their timeouts. Then, if you feel you have to run it once you do it on third or fourth down, so at least you have forced them to burn timeouts and you have run as much clock as possible.
Three years ago Coleman was the only one smart enough to realize we needed to go for against TCU. I had high hopes that he, or Klein, would bring a little common sense to our game management. Early results are very concerning. This staff doesn’t seem very smart at making quick, decisive, intelligent game management decisions.
I was also beyond annoyed that we had to call a timeout to get that two point conversion.....anybody would any foresight could’ve seen that we were going to need to go for two if we scored a td to go up one. I mean, I realized that scenario was a possibility from my couch, and I don’t make millions of dollars to do anything, let alone coach football.
All great points, but to be fair we didn't take a time out before that two. They thought they had to because of an expiring play clock but the touchdown was being reviewed while the play clock was running down. They reset the play clock and let us keep the timeout.
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Folks, I just heard from a reliable source that we have been scheming for Mississippi State and SD had been schemes for us. Kind of like how paper beats rock sometimes things don’t make fence and even though the rock is obviously bigger and more badass, that can get cover 2’d for a bit until the rock can get its bearings in the dark.
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I think that Snyder likes scheming so much that he makes it harder on himself by recruiting slow and/or unathletic players. Like a self imposed handicap just to see if he can do it.
I just gasped. How did I never see this before.
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Re “the chart”: it doesn’t have a column for “# of fumbles by your RB”. Which is why it’s the job of our highly compensated coaching staff to make a decision based on taking a measure of the friggin game instead of relying solely on a laminated card. That was so ISU it’s embarsssing but at least we escaped. :facepalm:
Exactly.....the “chart”apparently doesn’t distinguish being at their 8 yard line already. As MIR pointed out above, we could have kneeled and left them with nine seconds, pinned way deep. But if you do feel like you have to run it one time, you take two knees first and force them to use their timeouts. Then, if you feel you have to run it once you do it on third or fourth down, so at least you have forced them to burn timeouts and you have run as much clock as possible.
Three years ago Coleman was the only one smart enough to realize we needed to go for against TCU. I had high hopes that he, or Klein, would bring a little common sense to our game management. Early results are very concerning. This staff doesn’t seem very smart at making quick, decisive, intelligent game management decisions.
I was also beyond annoyed that we had to call a timeout to get that two point conversion.....anybody would any foresight could’ve seen that we were going to need to go for two if we scored a td to go up one. I mean, I realized that scenario was a possibility from my couch, and I don’t make millions of dollars to do anything, let alone coach football.
All great points, but to be fair we didn't take a time out before that two. They thought they had to because of an expiring play clock but the touchdown was being reviewed while the play clock was running down. They reset the play clock and let us keep the timeout.
I didn’t realize that....I stand corrected
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That was the most unorganized, assy, coaching display I've ever seen.
Recency bias.
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Word...I'm still worried but this combined with legit atrocious zebras makes me feel a little better.
We need some purple kool-aid!
1. Blake Lynch made four FG's and all XP's and looked very good!
2. Reggie Walker showed some burst. Like the fact we are rotating DLineman so they are not dead at end of season from playing every snap.
3. McGee showed some cover skills.
4. Zuber has some skills in the return game and can be our go to receiver.
5. We got all the crazy crap out of our system in the first game!!!
6. Skylar Thompson is very good in crunch time.
7. Patton is much faster than Tanking and Kirby. He will be a star after a few games.
8. Eli Walker may be the best athlete on defense. Glad to see him on the field.
9. Our new long snappers had all good snaps...don't take this element for granted!
10. Defense pitched a shutout in the second half.
We are 1-0. A win this week will have us all dancing. :billdance:
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1036642374468947969
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Shelley had a lot of tackles last night. After long pass completions. The guy was a containment monster.
Yes, he showed a great ability at recovering after getting beat on a first move
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2014 won their opener 55-16
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Must have been thinking of 1997
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2014 won their opener 55-16
He was throwing some vicious shade at Iowa state
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1036642374468947969
It might rain, it has rained before, but then again it might not.
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He's talking about 2013. He's just too old to remember what year it was that he got a statue commissioned, his daughter got engaged, and he embarrassed himself and the school paying him millions all on the same night.
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1036642374468947969
It might rain, it has rained before, but then again it might not.
Given the recent flooding, this statement is a bit too soon.