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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: 420seriouscat69 on August 21, 2018, 04:11:40 PM
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Not sure if you guys have been following this story about the missing girl in Iowa. They found her today. :(
https://twitter.com/WashTimes/status/1032008526581981185
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Abolish ICE!
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Abolish ICE!
yes
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Abolish ICE!
yes
yep.
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https://twitter.com/KCCINews/status/1032012031262633986
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No borders, no wall, no USA at all!
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https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1032012996757934080
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Oh man, this photo can't be good on his Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/cristhian.bahena.7
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Oh man, this photo can't be good on his Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/cristhian.bahena.7
is it a bad photo to have? those definitely aren't his guns.
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These illegal scums are coming to live in small town America. Lurking to rape and kill our young.kids,.sell drugs, and steal. Scantuary city and catch and release supporters, this death is on you head.
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Sad story.
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Oh man, this photo can't be good on his Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/cristhian.bahena.7
is it a bad photo to have? those definitely aren't his guns.
Do you think it’s a good photo to have for a cover photo?
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I personally think it's impossible to assign value to any singular image taken from any social media account. not without providing greater context.
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wacky, he's confessed to the murder. who cares about what photos he has posted on his facebook? if all of his photos were pictures of him hugging people, it wouldn't change the fact that he bashed a girls skull in.
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I never saw that he had admitted to it and I’ve seen cases where they use random crap against their likeliness, so I was just making a comment. :dunno:
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Why in Pit?
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Why in Pit?
Because Dax thinks that if we kept out immigrants, we would never have violent crimes.
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Thoughts and prayers
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Obviously people who want to be rapists and murderers aspire to be illegal immigrants (see the catholic priests thread)
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Oh man, this photo can't be good on his Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/cristhian.bahena.7
is it a bad photo to have? those definitely aren't his guns.
Do you think it’s a good photo to have for a cover photo?
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Are you attempting to infringe on his 2nd amendment rights?
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Fox News has had this as one of their top stories since it happened, just so they could have a distraction from the Manafort trial. Now that it has apparently been committed by one of those evil Mexicans that Trump tried to warn us about, they have effectively hit a gold mine. Get ready to see a renewed onslaught of illegal immigration crap that will be lapped up and repeated by gullible old racists and rubes.
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Did this guy turn himself in?
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If we eliminate illegals our crime rate is going to skyrocket guys. :runaway:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/19/two-charts-demolish-the-notion-that-immigrants-here-illegally-commit-more-crime/?noredirect=on
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Fox News has had this as one of their top stories since it happened, just so they could have a distraction from the Manafort trial. Now that it has apparently been committed by one of those evil Mexicans that Trump tried to warn us about, they have effectively hit a gold mine. Get ready to see a renewed onslaught of illegal immigration crap that will be lapped up and repeated by gullible old racists and rubes.
I got the breaking news alert on my phone at 4:12, that this dude was arrested. At 4:18 I turned on fox news radio and they already had an expert on calling for Trump to politicize this issue. The woman, of course, mentioned Kate Steinle. I also don't have to tell you that the guy who shot her was acquitted of murder because he didn't actually try to shoot her, this of course, was not mentioned.
It's absurd that this issue is being politicized even before there's a report from the m.e. It's even more absurd that they have to go back to a case three years ago, one in which there was no murder conviction, to scare people. Never mind that this bumps the news of a white dude strangling his pregnant wife and two toddler daughters then hiding them in a damn oil tank.
This guy is a sack of crap and should spend every waking moment of his life in agony, but if we need to protect pretty white women from danger, we gotta start with white dudes.
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Fox News has had this as one of their top stories since it happened, just so they could have a distraction from the Manafort trial. Now that it has apparently been committed by one of those evil Mexicans that Trump tried to warn us about, they have effectively hit a gold mine. Get ready to see a renewed onslaught of illegal immigration crap that will be lapped up and repeated by gullible old racists and rubes.
I thought the manafort trial wasn't newsworthy :confused:
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Are other news outlets ignoring this story???
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If we eliminate illegals our crime rate is going to skyrocket guys. :runaway:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/19/two-charts-demolish-the-notion-that-immigrants-here-illegally-commit-more-crime/?noredirect=on
There aren’t enough of them for the crime rate to skyrocket, but it absolutely will go up.
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Lol, the WaPo is a rough ridin' joke.
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Her past tweets and the comments to tweets are getting insane.
https://twitter.com/motibbs/status/940792919266680833?s=21
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https://twitter.com/motibbs/status/1018846763040505856?s=21
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You guys are certainly owning her.
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Who are “you guys”, chings? Weird response.
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good example of that white people performatively denigrating white people behavior thing we talked about w regard the jeong tweets tho.
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Why in Pit?
Because Dax thinks that if we kept out immigrants, we would never have violent crimes.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying :jerk:
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Why is one person getting murdered such a big story anyway? We already heard today that only 13 unarmed black people have been killed by police this year, so I don’t know why only one unarmed white girl matters so much.
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Not sure, but the story has been trending for a month now. :dunno:
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Not sure, but the story has been trending for a month now. :dunno:
So did Harambe, that doesn’t seem like a good metric.
I mean, I hope Iowa has capital punishment and they get rid of this dude ASAP, but it doesn’t seem like major national news
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4 people died in KCMO last weekend...3 from gunfire, 1 from car hitting a pedestrian. Not trending :(
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People are more interested in random acts of violence. Things like serial killers and stuff.
They don't give a crap when junkies kill each other.
I'm constantly stunned at how dense some of you fucktards are about obvious things.
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People are more interested in random acts of violence against cute white girls. Things like serial killers and stuff.
They don't give a crap when junkies kill each other.
I'm constantly stunned at how dense some of you fucktards are about obvious things.
fixed it....hot take post though....
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it's trending because fox news decided to make it trend.
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Fake humanitarian sys is upset that a murderer is getting news coverage.
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They are outraged that fox has an illegal alien random act of rape and murder story because the wapo says that stuff doesn't happen.
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it's trending because fox news decided to make it trend.
It was trending on every network for the last month.
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it's trending because fox news decided to make it trend.
It was trending on every network for the last month.
Yet the first post on it was yesterday
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Yesterday was the first I've heard of this.
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https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1032235156130680835
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it's trending because fox news decided to make it trend.
It was trending on every network for the last month.
Yet the first post on it was yesterday
The outcome came yesterday. :dunno:
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https://twitter.com/markberman/status/1032265471297564673
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should be in the POS thread?
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You guys know it's a mystery why any story gets blown up, right? Most of these stories have been happening for years, but people with specific agendas always rally around certain ones. This isn't any different. Why did Ferguson get blown up? Why are you guys acting like random stories getting blown up is new? Why was Casey Anthony a thing?
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I don't think this is a mystery. As FSD said, its so random and crazy that it freaks out a lot of the middle class and they are who watch the news.
But JFC Newt, wait until she is buried you fat faced dork
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I will say, since this is the only crutch the GOP is using right now with yesterday's events, it's been a little lol to see all of these Trumpers spelling Mollie's name wrong. #FakeRage
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There is no doubt it's a story and the reasons for that are really obvious.
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Yeah check out the Fox News website (where the olds and racists and Trumpers get all of their info). Large story front and center, the headline says MONSTER DOWN THE ROAD with a pic of a brown person in a striped prison jumpsuit.
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https://twitter.com/samlucasss/status/1032057891224805376?s=19
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Whitlock and the cowboy hat sheriff must be pissed that this Candace has snatched the title of black friend to all of racist america from them.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-charged-in-tibbetts-death-worked-at-iowa-farm-linked-to-prominent-republican/ar-BBMhFon?li=BBnb7Kz
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1032307721171857408
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1032307721171857408
:lol: I think Warren was in buckets top 5 Democrats list.
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Don’t cover murder! (Resident LibBots)
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https://twitter.com/RachelSB/status/1032338768940986368
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murderer is still brown tho, trump's comment stands
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Wasn't it the fake news that first reported he was an undocumented immigrant? :dunno:
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Wasn't it the fake news that first reported he was an undocumented immigrant? :dunno:
yes, the rough ridin' fake news libtard iowa sheriff
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:lol:
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/22/mollie-tibbetts-murder-suspect-illegal-immigrant-cristhian-rivera-allegedly-passed-e-verify-system.html
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hold onto your hats folks, we still may be able to politicize this
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Why are we not allowed to "politicize" this? Illegal immigration is a political issue. If this guy was an illegal immigrant, I think it is fair to point out that Mollie's death might have been prevented with stronger border enforcement. The same for Kate. The same for any number of folks killed or harmed in other ways by illegal immigrants, whether intentional or not.
The argument that these ladies and anyone else could have just as likely (or more likely) been killed or harmed by a citizen or legal resident rings hollow. Those folks have a right to be here. Illegal aliens do not. :dunno:
Now if you want to argue that "sure illegal immigrants kill or harm Americans, but that's still not a reason for stronger border enforcement" that's fine. You're entitled to make that argument. You're not entitled to sweep these incidents under the rug.
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You can politicize anything you want to. Basic math says we are less likely to get murdered with illegal immigrants in the country than we are without them, though.
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You can politicize anything you want to. Basic math says we are less likely to get murdered with illegal immigrants in the country than we are without them, though.
I'm not sure you phrased that right. If we have fewer illegal immigrants in this country, we are less likely to be killed or harmed by one.
Again, if you want to argue that you're more likely to be killed by a citizen or legal resident - got right ahead. But as I've stated above, that argument rings hollow because one of those subsets has a right to be here.
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He phrased it properly, you just didn't understand it (dunno if intentional or not)
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Yeah, I don't see anything I said that is incorrect. K-S-U is correct that you are less likely to get murdered by an illegal immigrant if none of them are in the country, but I really don't see how that matters.
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Yeah, I don't see anything I said that is incorrect. K-S-U is correct that you are less likely to get murdered by an illegal immigrant if none of them are in the country, but I really don't see how that matters.
Well.... I'd say that's just of many benefits of stronger immigration control. But let's get back to your first statement since you're standing by it: "Basic math says we are less likely to get murdered with illegal immigrants in the country than we are without them, though." I'd appreciate some explanation.
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Yeah, I don't see anything I said that is incorrect. K-S-U is correct that you are less likely to get murdered by an illegal immigrant if none of them are in the country, but I really don't see how that matters.
Well.... I'd say that's just of many benefits of stronger immigration control. But let's get back to your first statement since you're standing by it: "Basic math says we are less likely to get murdered with illegal immigrants in the country than we are without them, though." I'd appreciate some explanation.
The pool of potential victims grows at a greater rate than the pool of murderers, making me less likely to be a victim.
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Yeah, I don't see anything I said that is incorrect. K-S-U is correct that you are less likely to get murdered by an illegal immigrant if none of them are in the country, but I really don't see how that matters.
Well.... I'd say that's just of many benefits of stronger immigration control. But let's get back to your first statement since you're standing by it: "Basic math says we are less likely to get murdered with illegal immigrants in the country than we are without them, though." I'd appreciate some explanation.
The pool of potential victims grows at a greater rate than the pool of murderers, making me less likely to be a victim.
Heh. Great argument there. We really need to be importing way more illegal immigrants to reduce the likelihood of harm to Americans.
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https://twitter.com/newsbusters/status/1032068934990815234
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What are the per capita (kdub trigger alert) murder rates between legal and non-legal residents?
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Yeah, I don't see anything I said that is incorrect. K-S-U is correct that you are less likely to get murdered by an illegal immigrant if none of them are in the country, but I really don't see how that matters.
Well.... I'd say that's just of many benefits of stronger immigration control. But let's get back to your first statement since you're standing by it: "Basic math says we are less likely to get murdered with illegal immigrants in the country than we are without them, though." I'd appreciate some explanation.
The pool of potential victims grows at a greater rate than the pool of murderers, making me less likely to be a victim.
Heh. Great argument there. We really need to be importing way more illegal immigrants to reduce the likelihood of harm to Americans.
It's not even an argument so much as a statement of fact.
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What are the per capita (kdub trigger alert) murder rates between legal and non-legal residents?
https://www.cato.org/blog/murder-mollie-tibbetts-illegal-immigrant-crime-facts
I recently received new data from Texas on the number of convictions by crime and immigration status as well as the number of individuals convicted (they are slightly different). This Texas data is the best data that we have on the commission of murder by immigrants by specific legal status. In 2016, 746 native-born Texans, 32 illegal immigrants, and 28 legal immigrants were convicted of homicide. In that year, the homicide conviction rate for native-born Americans is Texas was 3.2 per 100,000 natives while it was 1.8 per 100,000 illegal immigrants and 0.9 per 100,000 legal immigrants (Figure 1). The illegal immigrant conviction rate for homicide was 44 percent below that of native-born Americans in 2016 in Texas.
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we could do away with murders by illegal immigrants entirely if we let immigrants in legally.
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Seems like if you add more people to the population that collectively murder people at a lower rate than the existing population then mathematically the odds of being murdered for an individual is lowered.
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we could do away with murders by illegal immigrants entirely if we let immigrants in legally.
Good point up in here. Lotta good points being made.
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This is the only place I’ve read or seen anything about this random death, one of many that happens everyday.
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Did you quit news and social media?
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we could make everyone cops and completely eliminate murder.
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Yeah, I don't see anything I said that is incorrect. K-S-U is correct that you are less likely to get murdered by an illegal immigrant if none of them are in the country, but I really don't see how that matters.
Well.... I'd say that's just of many benefits of stronger immigration control. But let's get back to your first statement since you're standing by it: "Basic math says we are less likely to get murdered with illegal immigrants in the country than we are without them, though." I'd appreciate some explanation.
The pool of potential victims grows at a greater rate than the pool of murderers, making me less likely to be a victim.
Heh. Great argument there. We really need to be importing way more illegal immigrants to reduce the likelihood of harm to Americans.
Any study I’ve seen shows that crime rates among illegal populations in the US are lower than the general crime rate. I’m sure Sarah Sanders has lots of talking points for you as to why those studies should not be believed, I just haven’t seen any to the contrary.
Also, your argument is dumb. The same logic would apply to mandatory and permanent birth control for every woman whose name ends in “y,” immediate deportation/imprisonment of all persons currently wearing blue shirts, and changing all statutes to exempt premeditated killings of people who wear glasses. All of those would decrease the number of murders in the US. Probably more successfully than your ridiculous suggestion of hindering immigration.
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One thing we all know is that first call for illegals in the US that are victims/witnesses to crime committed by other illegals is to law enforcement.
FFS you fake humanitarians melted down about lost children, an issue primarily driven by the fact the illegal guardian won’t answer the phone when the government calls.
Resident libs: So LOL’able.
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People are more interested in random acts of violence. Things like serial killers and stuff.
They don't give a crap when junkies kill each other.
I'm constantly stunned at how dense some of you fucktards are about obvious things.
In the past year there have been two different Iowa families who literally starved teenage girls to death. Both cases the families made these girls crap and piss in buckets. Earlier this year here in Iowa a father and son raped their daughter/sister then burned the house down with the girls and her cousin in the house. Last week a 14 year old boy who was missing since April was found in a river two counties over from where Mollie was found. Back in February some dude stole a pickup truck and a gun and murdered a random hunter, here in Iowa there was a fear that a serial killer was just hunting people down. During the press conference of the announcement of the found body, the boy's father literally beat up the stepfather on camera while blaming him for the death. While Mollie was missing a 21 year old woman was found dead in rural Iowa, we don't even know her name.
You haven't heard about any of those other stories and frankly they all are much more "man bites dog" than what happened to Mollie, as tragic as that was.
The psychopath in Colorado was definitely bigger news when it happened but "undocumented immigrant" is certainly more headline grabbing than "husband" when it comes to murdering pretty white women.
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They are outraged that fox has an illegal alien random act of rape and murder story because the wapo says that stuff doesn't happen.
This hasn't been reported by anyone.
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Did you quit news and social media?
Yeah, the people that say this are simply saying "I don't watch or read national news." I live here and the first place I heard about her being missing was the NBC Nightly News. I get national and local breaking news alerts and the national news alerts regarding Mollie were always before the local ones.
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Another white Iowan girl got brutally murdered on a golf course.... But don't know yet if her murdered was legal in this country so NBD yet guys. Don't worry about a 4 page thread on her.
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Thanks, Phil. There's already a thread about this where we left politics out of it, because you know, a girl was murdered.
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Good to hear. Wouldn't want anybody playing politics with death.... Like the multiple posts in this thread.
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Seems like you couldn't wait to jump on it.
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Here you go, champ! http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=40855.0
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Seems like you couldn't wait to jump on it.
Pointing out the double standard of people going nuts in here when one Iowa girl gets murdered and not the other just based on one being murdered by and illegal isn't really jumping on anything.....
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People are going nuts over this, idiot. It's national news. So was Mollie, even before they found out it was an illegal who did it. Mollie was missing for over a month. Probably why it's not as big.
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the story isn't even on the front page of fox news smh why won't msm cover this!?
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People are going nuts over this, idiot. It's national news. So was Mollie, even before they found out it was an illegal who did it. Mollie was missing for over a month. Probably why it's not as big.
No reason to get triggered and throw around mean names for our friends.
Murder is a problem in this country....sorry you get mad when the hypocrisy is pointed out on how some are covered and most aren't at all....
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There’s no hypocrisy. It’s a two day old story. Sorry you just caught on to the news. Sorry the news covered an illegal alien murder too. Had to hurt your lib mantra of just letting everyone roam free with no consequences.
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Lol. Zing.