Post by: renocat on April 10, 2018, 09:04:30 AM
Post by: meow meow on April 10, 2018, 10:25:55 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2018, 05:17:44 PM
Post by: The Big Train on April 11, 2018, 08:29:06 PM
there aren't many good college players over 6-9
NBA good no, but there are plenty of good collegiate bigs out there :dunno:
Rusty’s gotten too used to the Silicon Valley pickup league.
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2018, 09:48:11 PM
there aren't many good college players over 6-9
NBA good no, but there are plenty of good collegiate bigs out there :dunno:
Can you name two in the B12 not named Bamba or Azubike? (Well, and Wade)
Post by: wetwillie on April 11, 2018, 09:51:51 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2018, 10:13:05 PM
Jo Lual-Acuil Jr. averaged 14 and 9 this yearThat's one
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 11, 2018, 10:18:10 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 11, 2018, 10:18:40 PM
Bigs are fading in todays game. It's an athletes sport now that wants to run and gun. I feel like we just recruited a version of jam Sam minus the range and I'm ok with that.there aren't many good college players over 6-9
NBA good no, but there are plenty of good collegiate bigs out there :dunno:
Rusty’s gotten too used to the Silicon Valley pickup league.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 11, 2018, 10:21:17 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2018, 10:23:00 PM
I don't care what height they are. I care about him being able to get good players and put them in positions to succeed. This is an arbitrary qualification, and kind of a dumb one at that considering who has won the ncaa championship two of the last three years. If you have one good big you're fine, we have that guy.Yes
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2018, 10:39:11 PM
Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on April 11, 2018, 11:26:19 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on April 12, 2018, 08:53:52 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on April 12, 2018, 11:02:28 AM
Post by: meow meow on April 12, 2018, 11:39:44 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 12, 2018, 11:44:51 AM
Jo Lual-Acuil Jr. averaged 14 and 9 this yearThat's one
I couldn’t find anymore
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2018, 12:38:51 PM
KU Udoka Azubuike 7-0
BU Jo Acuil 7-0
UT Mohamed Bamba 6-11
TCU Vladimir Brodziansky 6-11
OU Jamuni McNeace 6-10
KSU Claws 6-10
ISU Cameron Lard 6-9
OU Khadeem Lattin 6-9
OSU Mitchell Solomon 6-9
BU Tristan Clark 6-9
OU Brady Manek 6-9
KSU Makol Mawien 6-9
Tech Norense Odiase 6-9
WVU Sagaba Konate 6-8
ISU Solomon Young 6-8
BU T.J. Maston 6-8
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2018, 08:50:39 AM
I don't care what height they are. I care about him being able to get good players and put them in positions to succeed. This is an arbitrary qualification, and kind of a dumb one at that considering who has won the ncaa championship two of the last three years. If you have one good big you're fine, we have that guy.Yes
It's not arbitrary, offensive, defensive rebounds and having a shot blocker in the lane are ways to win and gain an advantage. Having a big that can be a triple threat on the outside is obviously a luxury and another way to win by taking away rim protection of help defense.
They can absolutely be a huge benefit but are not crucial to success at the college level. I mean does Nova even have a player on the roster taller than 6-8?
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2018, 09:49:03 AM
6' 9" or 6' 8"is a big, kinda arbitrary :gocho:. Depends on their size, strength, athleticism.Yeah for sure. I think you're trying to argue a point I haven't made.
Post by: LeggoKatZ on May 20, 2018, 01:32:18 PM
Oscar inherited (6'7") Big Gip from Frank & I was okay with how he utilized him but the lone year Oscar had JO he didn't seem to utilize him effectively.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 20, 2018, 02:01:12 PM
Post by: brandochav on June 13, 2018, 11:28:31 PM
He also needs to stay out of foul trouble...
He seemed to get this in check toward the latter end of the season,
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Post by: Blackcats on June 17, 2018, 04:21:55 PM
Post by: cat97 on June 17, 2018, 06:36:49 PM
Right now we have bigs on the bench that might develop. IE Shadd who will play as a freshman this year and is now 6ft 9, 250 lbs with a 74 inch wing span. With 6ft 10 All Big 12 Claws and Big 12 All tournament team member Makol Mawien, we are as good with bigs right now as we have been in the last 40 years. Maybe they can add a few more big guys in the next year or so but best enjoy what we have right now.
Post by: brandochav on June 17, 2018, 07:12:10 PM
KSU has never had much luck with bigs. This is before most of you remember but Steve Mitchel and Norris Coleman are about the only quality bigs at 6ft 9 on up that I can remember. Hartman got by with 6ft 5 Darryl Winston, and 6ft 9 Carl Gerlach that were good players. Kruger had 6 ft 7 Bledsoe who was a decent player. Don't remember any bigs with Altman, Asbury or Woolridge who stood out although Manny Dies came close. Beasley was six ft 7 but a great player. Don't really feel he was a big as much as just an overall great talent.
Right now we have bigs on the bench that might develop. IE Shadd who will play as a freshman this year and is now 6ft 9, 250 lbs with a 74 inch wing span. With 6ft 10 All Big 12 Claws and Big 12 All tournament team member Makol Mawien, we are as good with bigs right now as we have been in the last 40 years. Maybe they can add a few more big guys in the next year or so but best enjoy what we have right now.
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Post by: cat97 on June 18, 2018, 08:22:21 AM
Post by: WildcatNation on June 18, 2018, 11:55:12 AM
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on June 18, 2018, 12:33:54 PM
Another theory, there are less quality bigs coming out of high school than the past as a result of nobody being trained to play with their back to the basket, at least relative to the way it used to be?
Post by: cat97 on June 18, 2018, 05:30:48 PM
Gipson (only 6'7-6'8) and JHR were both quality bigs.Both of these guys were OK but I rate them below guys like Mitchell, Norris Coleman and Curtis Kelly. Right now I personally see Mawiens play at the end of the season slightly better than both of these guys but I would not waste any time defending that opinion.
Junior and senior version of DJamer at 6 ft 8 should be included the list of quality bigs when he was completely healthy. Unfortunately, that was not very often.
Post by: wetwillie on June 18, 2018, 06:45:03 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 19, 2018, 05:15:47 PM
KSU has never had much luck with bigs. This is before most of you remember but Steve Mitchel and Norris Coleman are about the only quality bigs at 6ft 9 on up that I can remember. Hartman got by with 6ft 5 Darryl Winston, and 6ft 9 Carl Gerlach that were good players. Kruger had 6 ft 7 Bledsoe who was a decent player. Don't remember any bigs with Altman, Asbury or Woolridge who stood out although Manny Dies came close. Beasley was six ft 7 but a great player. Don't really feel he was a big as much as just an overall great talent.
Right now we have bigs on the bench that might develop. IE Shadd who will play as a freshman this year and is now 6ft 9, 250 lbs with a 74 inch wing span. With 6ft 10 All Big 12 Claws and Big 12 All tournament team member Makol Mawien, we are as good with bigs right now as we have been in the last 40 years. Maybe they can add a few more big guys in the next year or so but best enjoy what we have right now.
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Carl Gerlach was 6-11. Larry Williams was 6-9. Mitchell was actually Cotton's recruit.
Altman had McD all-american Daryl Cunningham (great rebounder, defender, offensively limited). Ashbury recruited Shawn Rhodes and the 6-8 Kenny (?) Williams juco kid who was center/PF on his only tourney team. Kruger also had Meier from maybe Haysville.