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Title: 2018 Spring football
Post by: CD on March 27, 2018, 11:05:44 AM
Spring football is just about to start up. What are you most hopeful for as far as player progression?

Current starter who I think can progress the most- Denzel Goolsby. Still learning the position, I like what he brings I just wish he could be more of a tackler instead of just going for the ankles.

Non starter I hope can win a starting job- Da'Quan Patton. This guy has all the makings of either a Marvin Simmons/Smoke Patterson/Dvonta Derricott Or as Sean compared him to last year Arthur Brown/Percell Gaskins.

Position group I am worried about- Wide Receiver. I think we have some skilled guys with Zuber, Gruntley, Rueter and Harris. But do we have a #1 guy who we can count on? I think C Bass is a year or 2 away still.

Guy that I have no idea why I am high on, but I am- AJ Parker. He really didn't play that well last year when he can in as a starter, but he showed some flashes of greatness that I hope he can build on.



Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: CHONGS on March 27, 2018, 11:08:12 AM
Classic KSU QB battle will be fun.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: _33 on March 27, 2018, 01:39:20 PM
#3 on defense.  I always wanted him to play more but he didn't.  I think he will be good this year.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: pvegs on March 27, 2018, 03:07:04 PM
depth chart, please!
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 30, 2018, 10:41:23 AM
Looking forward to Delton proving he is much better than Skyler (but thank you Skyler for the winning TD pass against Iowa State).
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: The Big Train on March 30, 2018, 10:49:58 AM
Looking forward to Delton proving he is much better than Skyler (but thank you Skyler for the winning TD pass against Iowa State).

Get lost Luke!  Skyler is going to be the starter and tear up the Big 12 this year.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 30, 2018, 10:56:02 AM
McCoy running over a bunch of puny losers
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: cfbandyman on March 30, 2018, 11:00:10 AM
I'm excited for both Skyler and Delton. Both bring their own brand of spark to the offense and their own weaknesses. I loved how Skyler played in crunch times last year (TT and ISU stick out) but I love the mobility and speed of Delton, and of course he was the game changer vs. UCLA. Skyler is the opposite of whatever speed and mobility is, at least relative to who we are used to. Waters was a much better runner than Skyler and that's not even up to debate. That being said, we shouldn't be running either of them into the ground like we have been.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: The Big Train on March 30, 2018, 11:15:53 AM
I'm excited for both Skyler and Delton. Both bring their own brand of spark to the offense and their own weaknesses. I loved how Skyler played in crunch times last year (TT and ISU stick out) but I love the mobility and speed of Delton, and of course he was the game changer vs. UCLA. Skyler is the opposite of whatever speed and mobility is, at least relative to who we are used to. Waters was a much better runner than Skyler and that's not even up to debate. That being said, we shouldn't be running either of them into the ground like we have been.

I would hope that is a point of emphasis since Dana ”Top 5 playcaller” Dimel is no longer here.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: ChiComCat on March 30, 2018, 11:16:21 AM
Waters was a worse runner than Skylar
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: CD on March 30, 2018, 12:03:47 PM
New spring roster is up. Isaiah Harris received a medical hardship and is now listed as a redshirt sophomore. Tom Hayes is still on the staff as defensive quality control. EJ Thomas and Wayne Jones graduated early and are on the roster along with Daniel Green, Sammy Wheeler and Aidan Mills.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 'taterblast on March 30, 2018, 12:41:38 PM
roster is up!

http://www.kstatesports.com/roster.aspx?path=football&roster=1123&sort=jersey (http://www.kstatesports.com/roster.aspx?path=football&roster=1123&sort=jersey)

Initial takeaways:

-We have three #10's!
-Daniel Green #22!
-Luke Sowa #47 didn't realize he was at Uconn for two years before Butler
-Spencer Misko #28 TE is a dashing young fellow
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 'taterblast on March 30, 2018, 12:44:09 PM
-Eric Gallon II has great hair. t's and p's if he transferred without knowing snyder's dread-diaper rule
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2018, 01:30:44 PM
(http://www.kstatesports.com/images/2016/8/29//20160829153307_84_jones_matt_mug.jpg?width=300) :love:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: cfbandyman on March 30, 2018, 01:48:56 PM
Waters was a worse runner than Skylar

How contrarian of you. Tell me how good then Skyler is at finding a pylon, first down marker, or lowering is soon to be shredded shoulder. At least Waters didn't lay down like a cowering dog 2 yards short of the first down like all the goddamn time.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: MakeItRain on March 30, 2018, 01:59:34 PM
Waters was a worse runner than Skylar

I agree, the homie  cfbandyman forgot about the fainting goat. Not Jake's fault though, he shouldn't have been running as much as he did.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: ChiComCat on March 30, 2018, 02:23:33 PM
Waters was a worse runner than Skylar

How contrarian of you. Tell me how good then Skyler is at finding a pylon, first down marker, or lowering is soon to be shredded shoulder. At least Waters didn't lay down like a cowering dog 2 yards short of the first down like all the goddamn time.

Skylar averages more yards per carry.  Skylar is also faster. 

Do you think the coaching staff was telling their 3rd string and only healthy QB to lower his shoulder and take shots? Delton is a much better runner than either of them but Skylar is already better than Waters and will only improve.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: kso_FAN on March 30, 2018, 02:35:21 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180330/792567113506eb3dd899db7fd5c17206.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180330/36f6282dc7306cf3abc44237c470d450.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 'taterblast on March 30, 2018, 02:55:38 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/979803938026225664
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2018, 03:00:59 PM
man, I love football. basketball is just so, so stupid.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: schreds21 on March 30, 2018, 03:47:46 PM
My God, Rison looks just like his dad
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: BackPayne on March 30, 2018, 06:25:57 PM
I'm hoping Anthony Payne is good. He was a beast in HS.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Katpappy on March 30, 2018, 11:25:20 PM
man, I love football. basketball is just so, so stupid.
:thumbs:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: treysolid on March 31, 2018, 08:11:47 AM
I'm hoping Anthony Payne is good. He was a beast in HS.

we need payne and hubert to be good because otherwise we have zero quality depth at DE.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Big Sam on March 31, 2018, 07:25:46 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/979803938026225664

At the end of the vid Bill looks like an old man who should be walking from his bungalow to game night at his Florida retirement community.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: star seed 7 on March 31, 2018, 08:19:49 PM
I'm excited for both Skyler and Delton. Both bring their own brand of spark to the offense and their own weaknesses. I loved how Skyler played in crunch times last year (TT and ISU stick out) but I love the mobility and speed of Delton, and of course he was the game changer vs. UCLA. Skyler is the opposite of whatever speed and mobility is, at least relative to who we are used to. Waters was a much better runner than Skyler and that's not even up to debate. That being said, we shouldn't be running either of them into the ground like we have been.

Bruh...  :lol:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: kearneymen on April 02, 2018, 08:24:58 PM
To divert the Skylar debate, I will take a stab at a depth chart (please note, I have no inside information)

QB: Delton or Thompson, Hall
RB: Barnes, Silmon or Warmack, McCoy, Burns --> This will be fun to watch in spring ball!
FB: Richards, Sowa or Barta --> my guess is that Snyder will go with seniority for spring ball, but my guess is that they signed Sowa to play
TE: Lenners or Gammon, Kochevar
RT: Risner (out for spring game), Kaltmayer, Kuduk
LT: Frantz, Curl, Mills or Robinson
LG: Beecham, Rivas or Adler
C: Holtorf, Couch
RG: Mitchell, Creed or Adler
WR: Zuber, Taylor
WR: Harris, Render
WR: Gruntley, Rueter

DE: Walker, Boom or Johnson
DE: Ball, Hubert, Payne
DT: Dishon, Huggins or Robertson
DT: Davies or Wiley
LB: Sullivan, Gallon
LB: Hughes or Patton
LB: Sizelove, Rudzik
NB: Durham or Monty or McPherson or Noil or Stewart?  Not sure here... I would like to see Eli Walker, but with Adams out I bet he plays safety
CB: Shelley, Neil or McGee
CB: Patterson or Parker
S: Adams (out), Eli Walker, Jones
S: Goolsby, Bowles

KR: Harris or Zuber or Warmack
PR: Harris or Zuber
P: ???
K: ???
LS: ???
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: treysolid on April 02, 2018, 08:31:22 PM
that's not too bad. I assume by Matthews at RG, you meant Mitchell
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 'taterblast on April 02, 2018, 09:16:07 PM
Justin Hughes *denny matthews voice* GONE!
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: SteelCat on April 02, 2018, 09:57:11 PM
Why did he leave?  Does he know he is behind Rudzik and Patton?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 02, 2018, 10:34:46 PM
I thought curl transferred
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: CD on April 03, 2018, 08:22:14 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZkRaPWVMAEfCJv.jpg:large)

Heres the one I did. (take out Hughes)
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: CD on April 03, 2018, 08:29:45 AM
I thought curl transferred

Curl is on the new spring roster. Tom Killilea, Breontae Matthews, Glenn Williams, Alec Ruth and Bryce Fitzner all left.


Also Jay Craft is no longer on the roster. He was mentioned as someone to keep an eye on in the secondary.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 03, 2018, 12:44:39 PM
I thought curl transferred

Curl is on the new spring roster. Tom Killilea, Breontae Matthews, Glenn Williams, Alec Ruth and Bryce Fitzner all left.


Also Jay Craft is no longer on the roster. He was mentioned as someone to keep an eye on in the secondary.

I was thinking of ruth, thx
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: BackPayne on April 03, 2018, 03:19:37 PM
Why did Matthews transfer?  He was going to get good playing time.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: CD on April 03, 2018, 03:39:09 PM
Why did Matthews transfer?  He was going to get good playing time.

2nd or 3rd string offensive line don't usually get much playing time
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: kearneymen on April 05, 2018, 06:58:29 AM
Good conversation going here.  A few questions about the depth chart:

1)  What is the beat on Justin Hughes?  He had some good minutes last year, and is on the Spring roster; however, a poster above said he is gone.
2)  I thought Boom Massie and Kyle Ball had decent seasons last year.  Any chance that Hubert or Payne unseat them?
3)  CB opposite of Shelley and NB is pretty raw... any idea of a name or two that is sticking out?
4)  Looking at the potential depth chart, the message is 'run the ball'... I wonder how Coleman will change things up from Dimel?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: CD on April 05, 2018, 07:22:01 AM
KSO reported that Hughes is gone and that it is definitely not just a rumor. Said it was not his choice.

Hubert is apparently a monster at DE and could unseat one of the starters. Again this is from KSO.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: kearneymen on April 07, 2018, 09:53:30 AM
Bummer, I thought Hughes had potential.  Hopefully Sullivan, Patton and Sizelove can step up... maybe Gallon or Rudzik can offer some good competition.  Maybe York or Green can step up?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: meow meow on April 09, 2018, 08:39:24 AM
maybe every single person on our entire roster can step up???
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Katpappy on April 09, 2018, 09:45:34 PM
maybe every single person on our entire roster can step up???
That's it MM!  WE need to get rid of the "FAMILY" block and make a "STEP UP" block.   :driving:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: felix rex on April 10, 2018, 12:52:13 AM
maybe every single person on our entire roster can step up???
That's it MM!  WE need to get rid of the "FAMILY" block and make a "STEP UP" block.   :driving:

Instead of a block, it's a small wooden stool. Would be amazing, IMO.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Katpappy on April 10, 2018, 08:46:49 AM
maybe every single person on our entire roster can step up???
That's it MM!  WE need to get rid of the "FAMILY" block and make a "STEP UP" block.   :driving:

Instead of a block, it's a small wooden stool. Would be amazing, IMO.
If anybody knows players/coaches; the word needs to get out about this!
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Katpappy on April 10, 2018, 08:48:09 AM
Oops, it will never happen as long as a Snyder is running the show.  :frown:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 'taterblast on April 10, 2018, 12:45:40 PM
snyder says strickland is still on the team
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: bucket on April 10, 2018, 12:50:38 PM
snyder says strickland is still on the team

Take that, you idiots!  :Woohoo:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2018, 12:54:45 PM
Well that's great news.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 'taterblast on April 10, 2018, 01:07:20 PM
apparently snyder misspoke
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: DQ12 on April 10, 2018, 01:11:32 PM
 :lol: man.  bless you, Bill.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 10, 2018, 01:27:19 PM
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/983762329518198785?s=19
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2018, 02:07:15 PM
 :facepalm:

https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/983775083348025344
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: manpow5 on April 10, 2018, 02:13:50 PM
I think Bill is on his last leg....
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 'taterblast on April 10, 2018, 02:33:52 PM
not a great look
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2018, 02:45:43 PM
maybe that was bill’s way of inviting strickland back to the team
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 'taterblast on April 10, 2018, 03:12:26 PM
apparently this stud is kicking major ass

(http://www.kstatesports.com/images/2017/7/20//1500593730559-12_weber_landry_mug.jpg?width=300)
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2018, 03:13:16 PM
Good year for K-State and the Weber's.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: GregKSU1027 on April 10, 2018, 04:41:46 PM
apparently this stud is kicking major ass

(http://www.kstatesports.com/images/2017/7/20//1500593730559-12_weber_landry_mug.jpg?width=300)
That smile says it all.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: BackPayne on April 10, 2018, 06:28:03 PM
JFC, Bill. 
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2018, 04:36:21 PM
https://twitter.com/GrantFlanders/status/984147103663509506

:lol:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2018, 04:38:26 PM
Is there a master "Bill is old and confused af" thread?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: DQ12 on April 11, 2018, 04:40:50 PM
rumblings that delton's passing has "noticeably improved" this spring.  :surprised:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on April 11, 2018, 11:47:03 PM
https://twitter.com/GrantFlanders/status/984147103663509506

:lol:
Whoa, whoa, whoa.   Those are NOT football fonts.   :surprised:

I mean...if you use first-class typography here, what's left for the Landon Lectures?  And for alumni donation solicitations?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: stunted on April 12, 2018, 04:15:45 AM
bill's dementia stuff is hard to follow. old people deserve more respect. it's weird to me that people are openly laughing about it. he probably should have retired though.

rumblings that delton's passing has "noticeably improved" this spring.  :surprised:

 :surprised: i bet he realized better passing = less running = less sketti brains
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2018, 08:26:18 AM


bill's dementia stuff is hard to follow. old people deserve more respect. it's weird to me that people are openly laughing about it. he probably should have retired though.

You're right. It's sad, not funny.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2018, 08:27:46 AM
I think old people who know they aren't fully capable should have enough respect for their employer to stop working.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 12, 2018, 08:28:30 AM
I watched Joa Pa's movie last night. Made me want Bill to retire before something bad happened out of his watch (What watch?).
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2018, 08:47:28 AM


bill's dementia stuff is hard to follow. old people deserve more respect. it's weird to me that people are openly laughing about it. he probably should have retired though.

You're right. It's sad, not funny.

It's not dissimilar from how at the core, it's not laughing at oscar as much as it's laughing at ksu for hiring/retaining him.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 12, 2018, 08:48:46 AM
Yeah, successful ppl suck.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: DQ12 on April 12, 2018, 09:02:16 AM
Nah, it's funny.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2018, 09:07:33 AM
Maybe it's funny if he's just forgetting things and he always has. It's not funny if his mind is significantly deteriorating.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: purplehaze on April 12, 2018, 09:09:51 AM
Being forgetful is different than dementia. It's common for elderly to have trouble keeping up with 100+ names that change every year, especially if the two he is mixing up where similar looking and played the same position/similar position on the depth chart. Bill still may be in early stages of actual disease but this doesn't point one way or  the other. Jm(educated)o

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Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2018, 09:14:12 AM
Being forgetful is different than dementia. It's common for elderly to have trouble keeping up with 100+ names that change every year, especially if the two he is mixing up where similar looking and played the same position/similar position on the depth chart. Bill still may be in early stages of actual disease but this doesn't point one way or  the other. Jm(educated)o

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Should we laugh at what is happening?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: DQ12 on April 12, 2018, 09:18:02 AM
Got the funny police up in here again. 

He's old.  This is what happens to old people.  Maybe he's sick, maybe not, but mixing up Taylor for a guy who isn't even on the team anymore is a classic old person move. 

If you can't chuckle at that shared human experience, then i don't know.  We have different senses of humor i guess.

It's insane he's still our coach.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: purplehaze on April 12, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
Being forgetful is different than dementia. It's common for elderly to have trouble keeping up with 100+ names that change every year, especially if the two he is mixing up where similar looking and played the same position/similar position on the depth chart. Bill still may be in early stages of actual disease but this doesn't point one way or  the other. Jm(educated)o

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Should we laugh at what is happening?
I agree with what you said above. Kinda amusing if just old, sad if dementia. Either way not a good look.

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Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 'taterblast on April 12, 2018, 09:33:53 AM
funny story - Mo Latimore repeatedly would call Vai Lutui "Mario" unironically when he was at k-state because, ya know, Mario Fatafehi
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 12, 2018, 10:45:47 AM
Waters was a worse runner than Skylar

How contrarian of you. Tell me how good then Skyler is at finding a pylon, first down marker, or lowering is soon to be shredded shoulder. At least Waters didn't lay down like a cowering dog 2 yards short of the first down like all the goddamn time.

holy crap.

Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: DQ12 on April 12, 2018, 11:43:01 AM
waters fell over if you looked at him funny.  i liked waters fine, but he was a below average runner. 

thompson's runs against oklahoma state end this dispute.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: stunted on April 12, 2018, 10:35:03 PM
Got the funny police up in here again. 

He's old.  This is what happens to old people.  Maybe he's sick, maybe not, but mixing up Taylor for a guy who isn't even on the team anymore is a classic old person move. 

If you can't chuckle at that shared human experience, then i don't know.  We have different senses of humor i guess.

It's insane he's still our coach.

i get where you're coming from, but still don't agree that it's ok. laughing at elders isn't really shared among all people, it's definitely more of an american thing. like you wouldn't ever laugh at a crippled person for walking funny.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: wetwillie on April 12, 2018, 10:43:16 PM
Making fun of old people is one of the things I love most about american culture.  You gotta bring it even if you are 95 in this country or you will get destroyed.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2018, 10:45:25 PM
i know a guy who moved here from minnesota and his name is wally.  wally pronounces “lenexa” as “lenexia”.  cracks me up every time

:lol:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: ben ji on April 12, 2018, 11:14:15 PM
funny story - Mo Latimore repeatedly would call Vai Lutui "Mario" unironically when he was at k-state because, ya know, Mario Fatafehi

Fun Fact - Mo Latimore is a dick and once called a player trying out for a NFL roster spot and told him he had no shot and to give it up, openly mocked him on speaker phone with current players(at the time) on the phone. The player ended up playing in the NFL for a couple of years.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: KsuWildcatsXII on April 13, 2018, 08:19:09 AM
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/984768005887483907

Trying not to get my hopes up too much (I know it's spring and every team thinks this is "the year"), but the more I hear about the offense opening up, the more excited I get.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: meow meow on April 13, 2018, 08:23:42 AM
funny story - Mo Latimore repeatedly would call Vai Lutui "Mario" unironically when he was at k-state because, ya know, Mario Fatafehi

Fun Fact - Mo Latimore is a dick and once called a player trying out for a NFL roster spot and told him he had no shot and to give it up, openly mocked him on speaker phone with current players(at the time) on the phone. The player ended up playing in the NFL for a couple of years.

Mo sounds like a master motivator. 
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 13, 2018, 08:47:51 AM
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/984768005887483907

Trying not to get my hopes up too much (I know it's spring and every team thinks this is "the year"), but the more I hear about the offense opening up, the more excited I get.
I still can't believe Fritch blocked me for making fun of Riley. Sober fritch is such a bitch.  :frown:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: DQ12 on April 13, 2018, 09:05:29 AM
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/984768005887483907

Trying not to get my hopes up too much (I know it's spring and every team thinks this is "the year"), but the more I hear about the offense opening up, the more excited I get.
This excites me  :drool:

@kso_FAN think we might see some GT counter stuff that OU does?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: bubbles4ksu on April 13, 2018, 09:30:13 AM
we already run the that stuff but without the sweep wrinkle and our dudes aren't as fast.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: KsuWildcatsXII on April 13, 2018, 09:33:20 AM
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/984768005887483907

Trying not to get my hopes up too much (I know it's spring and every team thinks this is "the year"), but the more I hear about the offense opening up, the more excited I get.
This excites me  :drool:

@kso_FAN think we might see some GT counter stuff that OU does?

I don't know why it annoyed me so much more than normal. Maybe because I thought we had more weapons than we usually do, but QB draw every other play was especially painful to watch last year. Small sample size, but the two plays we ran right after the rain delay against TCU were a pretty good representation of how mailed in our offense looked. Delton kept it up the middle, then rolled to his right and chucked it out of bounds. The game was still within reach, at least on the scoreboard, and the coaches basically got a free halftime and did NOTHING with it.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: DQ12 on April 13, 2018, 09:41:24 AM
we already run the that stuff but without the sweep wrinkle and our dudes aren't as fast.
Harris and/or Warmack are perfect for that role, you cretin.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2018, 10:28:59 AM
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/984768005887483907

Trying not to get my hopes up too much (I know it's spring and every team thinks this is "the year"), but the more I hear about the offense opening up, the more excited I get.
This excites me  :drool:

@kso_FAN think we might see some GT counter stuff that OU does?

By GT counter I'm assuming you mean pulling the guard and tackle, traditional counter trey blocking stuff. We don't use it a ton, but it is something we already use some. In fact, much of the time you see what most people consider a zone read look in the backfield for us, its often a counter trey and automatic give to the back. Often it ends up looking like and off tackle sweep play if you aren't watching the pulling linemen.

Also, I'm sure many of your read this, but this piece by Ian Boyd of footballstudyhall.com is one of the best articles I've ever read breaking down much of what we've done during Snyder 2.0.

https://twitter.com/Ian_A_Boyd/status/984057410582171648

My assumption is that a lot of these concepts will remain, but there will be tweaks with Dimel gone and new coordinator's in place. However, I think many of the "plus one" concepts in place come down from Snyder and its just the coordinators job to figure out how that will happen.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 13, 2018, 12:11:33 PM
K-State offense.....pizazz

Fritch is such a wordsmith.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: wetwillie on April 13, 2018, 12:26:23 PM
We have young studs coordinating this year.  Prepare yo self’s.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2018, 10:06:29 AM
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/984768005887483907

Trying not to get my hopes up too much (I know it's spring and every team thinks this is "the year"), but the more I hear about the offense opening up, the more excited I get.
This excites me  :drool:

@kso_FAN think we might see some GT counter stuff that OU does?

I don't know why it annoyed me so much more than normal. Maybe because I thought we had more weapons than we usually do, but QB draw every other play was especially painful to watch last year. Small sample size, but the two plays we ran right after the rain delay against TCU were a pretty good representation of how mailed in our offense looked. Delton kept it up the middle, then rolled to his right and chucked it out of bounds. The game was still within reach, at least on the scoreboard, and the coaches basically got a free halftime and did NOTHING with it.

I wanted to fight all of the coaches during that game, complete cowardice.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2018, 10:22:37 AM
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/984768005887483907

Trying not to get my hopes up too much (I know it's spring and every team thinks this is "the year"), but the more I hear about the offense opening up, the more excited I get.
This excites me  :drool:

@kso_FAN think we might see some GT counter stuff that OU does?

By GT counter I'm assuming you mean pulling the guard and tackle, traditional counter trey blocking stuff. We don't use it a ton, but it is something we already use some. In fact, much of the time you see what most people consider a zone read look in the backfield for us, its often a counter trey and automatic give to the back. Often it ends up looking like and off tackle sweep play if you aren't watching the pulling linemen.

Also, I'm sure many of your read this, but this piece by Ian Boyd of footballstudyhall.com is one of the best articles I've ever read breaking down much of what we've done during Snyder 2.0.

https://twitter.com/Ian_A_Boyd/status/984057410582171648

My assumption is that a lot of these concepts will remain, but there will be tweaks with Dimel gone and new coordinator's in place. However, I think many of the "plus one" concepts in place come down from Snyder and its just the coordinators job to figure out how that will happen.

Great article, although I take exception to blaming Sisco's high school injury to what happened to him in '17, that's ridiculous given what happened in '16.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: CD on April 17, 2018, 02:50:57 PM
Walter Neil Jr getting a lot of praise from Snyder today. I think its going to be Duke and AJ Parker on the outside with Neil playing the nickle.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: bucket on April 18, 2018, 08:50:17 PM
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LHC Bill Snyder said "Mike McCoy is a very talented player, very physical player, very undisciplined player – two out of three doesn't work. When he gets the third order of business in place, he'll be a very fine player."

Giving up on plays or something I guess
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: The Big Train on April 21, 2018, 07:53:32 AM
So what should I look for today at the spring game?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: The Big Train on April 21, 2018, 08:56:44 AM
(https://i.giphy.com/media/hEc4k5pN17GZq/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: bucket on April 21, 2018, 09:37:00 AM
So what should I look for today at the spring game?

Did they lock the doors to the Ice Family Basketball Center?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: SteelCat on April 21, 2018, 11:33:17 AM
New player on the roster.  Jeremy Collier - Senior Punter.   May have a chance to play.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: purplehaze on April 21, 2018, 01:42:17 PM
Delton can pass, Taylor and Weber look good. D looks small.

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Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: purplehaze on April 21, 2018, 01:43:06 PM
Our kick game is garbage

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Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Prince McJunkins on April 21, 2018, 02:17:17 PM
Delton is looking studly today.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Spracne on April 21, 2018, 02:58:52 PM
Delton can pass, Taylor and Weber look good. D looks small.

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It's just the angle. Plus, it's pretty chilly out.

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Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: WildcatPower on April 21, 2018, 06:36:05 PM
A little concerned about special team play.

Having to replace a punter, kicker, and long snapper?  Woof.  And I don't think the kicker will be able to make a 40 yarder FG....
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: bucket on April 21, 2018, 06:42:20 PM
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/987834242196533252

Chabastin!
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: bucket on April 21, 2018, 06:51:53 PM
A little concerned about special team play.

Having to replace a punter, kicker, and long snapper?  Woof.  And I don't think the kicker will be able to make a 40 yarder FG....

Yes, I think we will all understand their importance next year.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: The Big Train on April 21, 2018, 07:43:19 PM
Wow was it cold out there today! Luckily I decided to watch from the comfort of KSU wild Wildcat lands own Kites(Bar and Grille).

Our offense looks, dare I say, especially dynamic and advanced. We threw screens(Sproles caught the last one) and our RB’s weren’t just blocking for a FB. We had easy throws and used RPO’s efficiently and in good numbers. Wow! I’m excited for this fall!

:emawkid:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: BackPayne on April 21, 2018, 08:44:22 PM
Our defense...is it that bad?  I read our offenses had 831 total yards.  Yikes!
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 21, 2018, 11:16:11 PM
Delton can pass, Taylor and Weber look good. D looks small.

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It's just the angle. Plus, it's pretty chilly out.

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This is a great post, and you idiots are all just blowing right past it.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: The Big Train on April 22, 2018, 12:06:20 AM
Delton can pass, Taylor and Weber look good. D looks small.

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It's just the angle. Plus, it's pretty chilly out.

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This is a great post, and you idiots are all just blowing right past it.

This is a family board and this filth is something nobody should acknowledge. I guess unless you are a child.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: KST8FAN on April 22, 2018, 09:17:13 AM
Any attendance estimates yesterday?  The news shots of the stadium it looked empty...

Tom

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Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 22, 2018, 10:14:38 AM
Any attendance estimates yesterday?  The news shots of the stadium it looked empty...

Tom

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banging out your stadium for the spring game is for loser fanbases
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Pett on April 22, 2018, 02:09:58 PM
Our kick game is garbage

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Jake roark might be a dillon wilson clone
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: TheTruth on April 22, 2018, 04:45:30 PM
Our kick game is garbage

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Kick game, wide receiver and linebacker are probably my biggest concerns.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: kearneymen on April 23, 2018, 07:04:45 AM
Our kick game is garbage

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Kick game, wide receiver and linebacker are probably my biggest concerns.

Yeah, I agree that the kick and punt game is a major concern.

Linebackers could be interesting... Patton, Sullivan, Gallon and Green looked the part but didn't do anything to make you think they can replace what was lost.  I don't think Sizelove or Rudzik played?  Overall, I think that this position will shake out.

WR: I hope that Taylor builds off of this game.  There just isn't a lot of depth on the team.  Zuber is good, Harris is quick and Rueter had a great game.  Taylor looks like a physical freak.  He and Gruntley could really help with their size and speed.

DBs: Hard to tell without Adams, Goolsby, E. Walker or Patterson.  McGee and Monty both had decent games, but it seems like we are pretty thin on the two deep and will need to work hard to develop a NB and CB opposite of Shelley.

DLine: I thought that the OL, even with the reserves, really dominated the DLine.  Not sure what to make of this.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: LickNeckey on April 23, 2018, 12:13:05 PM
be prepared for stretches of uptempo offense and single high pressure packages
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: michigancat on April 23, 2018, 02:58:22 PM
who won?

:fatty:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: CD on April 23, 2018, 04:24:36 PM
https://twitter.com/Thekstatefan/status/988454096356233217

Shameless post of my own tweet
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: kearneymen on April 23, 2018, 07:39:38 PM
Any chance Eli Walker can play the NB position?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Steffy08 on April 23, 2018, 10:31:57 PM
https://twitter.com/Thekstatefan/status/988454096356233217

Shameless post of my own tweet

What has happened to Burns (the younger one...who played running back)?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: DQ12 on April 24, 2018, 06:49:43 AM
He left the program.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: CD on April 24, 2018, 08:32:27 AM
Any chance Eli Walker can play the NB position?

I think they are pretty happy with Neil. Walker got torched several times last year. I don't think he has the coverage skills to play the nickle.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: meow meow on April 24, 2018, 08:37:21 AM
saw a pic of Walker recently, looks a little bigger than i remembered last year.  any chance of him being moved to LB?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: DOD Take 2 on April 27, 2018, 01:27:48 AM
Pretty sure he played safety/linebacker last year depending on the package. I expect him to play a hybrid role unless injuries occur
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: bucket on July 14, 2018, 12:03:18 PM
Not a Rivals subscriber but it would appear Justin Hughes is back.  :ksu:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: kearneymen on July 14, 2018, 04:58:19 PM
Any chance Eli Walker can play the NB position?

I think they are pretty happy with Neil. Walker got torched several times last year. I don't think he has the coverage skills to play the nickle.


Yeah, I remember him getting burned several times as well... I hope we can find some way to use his talents.  Glad to see Hughes is back, he could help as well.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: bucket on March 30, 2019, 12:26:21 PM
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Kansas State head coach Chris Klieman noted that redshirt senior WR Dalton Gruntley has been the "most impressive offensive player" during spring practices.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: wetwillie on March 30, 2019, 12:46:03 PM
Between Gruntley, Rison , knowles, and Zuber we should be pretty good at WR
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: treysolid on March 30, 2019, 04:28:28 PM
Between Gruntley, Rison , knowles, and Zuber we should be pretty good at WR

Chabastin not living up to his potential?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: wetwillie on March 30, 2019, 06:56:14 PM
Between Gruntley, Rison , knowles, and Zuber we should be pretty good at WR

Chabastin not living up to his potential?

Haven’t heard any mention of him this spring :frown:
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: kearneymen on March 30, 2019, 08:37:54 PM
Between Gruntley, Rison , knowles, and Zuber we should be pretty good at WR

Chabastin not living up to his potential?

Haven’t heard any mention of him this spring :frown:


It will be interesting to see how the staff tweaks their offense.  I get the feeling that a run heavy scheme is not suited for our current roster.  If Skylar and the receivers are really stepping up it may help hide our lack of depth at running back.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: KITNfury on April 01, 2019, 08:48:03 AM
Gruntley had some maddening drops early last season, can't remember if he did much towards the end (which probably means he didn't have as many). Hopefully Klieman's comments are because he's gotten good and not that everyone sucks.
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2019, 10:08:22 AM
Gruntley had some maddening drops early last season, can't remember if he did much towards the end (which probably means he didn't have as many). Hopefully Klieman's comments are because he's gotten good and not that everyone sucks.

What is The Meadowlark’s basis for comparison overall, I wonder?
Title: Re: 2018 Spring football
Post by: bucket on April 01, 2019, 10:12:00 AM
Gruntley had some maddening drops early last season, can't remember if he did much towards the end (which probably means he didn't have as many). Hopefully Klieman's comments are because he's gotten good and not that everyone sucks.

What is The Meadowlark’s basis for comparison overall, I wonder?

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article228401734.html

I didn't actually read the article. The blurb I posted was all that I saw from the article.