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Title: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 23, 2018, 10:37:03 AM
I haven't watched a single minute of their games. How do the Cats stack up against them? Do they compare to anyone we have played this season?
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 23, 2018, 10:38:29 AM
Mak should eat, they don't have very much size.

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Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: SEK_EMAW on March 23, 2018, 10:38:47 AM
And why are they the Ramblers when they have a Husky for a mascot?
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: meow meow on March 23, 2018, 10:40:49 AM
i want ku big 12 tourney Makol and not left handed hook shot Makol
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 23, 2018, 10:45:24 AM
So their mascot is a shitty car that went belly up in the 1970s? That's just weird.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 23, 2018, 11:14:33 AM
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What is a Rambler? And why is it a wolf? Why does the school have such an odd nickname?

These are common questions Loyola students might ask.

Loyola athletic teams were originally known as the Maroon and Gold, representing a practice across the country before 1920 to name athletic teams after the school’s colors, according to the Athletic Department’s website. Some schools, like the Harvard Crimson, never abandoned that practice, but Loyola did. The football coach conducted a contest to name the football team Loyola had at the time and, in 1925, they became the “Grandees” after the old school newspaper.

That name failed to stick and after just one year, in 1926, Loyola teams became known as the Ramblers for good. That year, the football team did a large amount of traveling. They did enough that the media dubbed the team “the Ramblers” for the amount of rambling around the country they did. Even though football was discontinued at Loyola in 1930, the nickname lived on.

But while the teams had a nickname, they didn’t have a mascot until 1980, when then introduced Bo Rambler.

“He looked like a hobo with a big, giant head,” said Jim Collins, the video production coordinator in the School of Communication and a 1985 graduate of Loyola. “I just showed up to a basketball game once and he was there. Most of the kids, when I was in school, liked him and thought he was funny.”

Bo didn’t just look like a hobo; he was one. Even the name Bo stemmed from the word hobo. Bo was similar to many mascots. He would try to entertain the crowd alongside the cheerleaders. Collins remembered one particular moment between Bo and DePaul’s mascot, when the rivalry between the two schools was huge.

“Bo and Billy Blue Demon, or whatever his name was, got into a shoving match,” Collins said. “Bo went to a store not far from campus and borrowed a giant boxing glove and came back with it.”

While Bo didn’t pull a Muhammad Ali on DePaul’s mascot, he went down for the count in the early ‘90s. That’s when the university decided to change Loyola’s image.

“I guess the hobo wasn’t up to the standards of a Jesuit university,” said Pat Schultz, the assistant athletic director of operations and a Loyola alum. “They were pushing the new shield, which had the wolf and kettle.”

In the early ‘90s, the school conducted a survey to let students vote whether they wanted to keep the hobo or go with the wolf as a mascot. Schultz and his buddy, Eddie Slowikowski, one of only two Loyola athletes to ever run a sub-4:00 mile, both wanted Bo Rambler to stay.

“They held voting for students at a women’s volleyball game,” Schultz said, “And Eddie stood by the box and kept putting in votes for Bo.

We knew we had put more votes in for Bo than the number of other votes total.”

Yet university officials at the time picked the wolf to be the new mascot. Named Lu as an acronym for Loyola University, the wolf was created to be a more cartoonish character early on.

“He looked like Wile E. Coyote,” Collins said.

The more life-like wolf students know today came about in 2000, according to Schultz. The change coincided with John Planek becoming the athletic director and Fr. Michael J. Garanzini, S.J. becoming president.

“I loved the cartoon wolf better,” said Steve Sykes, an intern for the Athletic Department and a 23-year-old senior history major.

Sykes can be described as a close friend of Lu’s, interacting with him enough during games that he is thought of by some as the “wolf whisperer.” Different students, including Sykes sometimes, play the current Lu, something that has changed since Dr. Grace Calhoun became athletic director in 2011. Under the direction of Planek, a professional played Lu.

Schultz and Sykes agree that the purpose of mascots is to interact with the fans and generate school spirit. Sykes believes that every school should have a mascot. He used to attend Kansas State University where he said Willie the Wildcat was “loved and adored” by everyone, to the point that t-shirts are made of him.

The same has been true at Loyola.

“Students have always embraced the mascot, whether it was Bo or Lu,” Schultz said. “They’re also good ways of marketing the school and athletics.”

Lu has moved into the digital age quite well, blogging for The Phoenix and having a presence on Twitter and Facebook. But while the school takes to the wolf after twenty years, the question remains: what became of Bo Rambler?

“The outfit was stolen by the swim team … we had one then … back in ’92,” Schultz said. “Nobody knows where it is now.”

It appears that Bo is still out there, rambling on, befitting the nickname of the school he served.
Title: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: catastrophe on March 23, 2018, 11:21:03 AM
Omg I can’t tell if that is satire or not but either way that is hilarious and literally made me LOL (except quietly in my office).
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 23, 2018, 11:31:43 AM
 Tldnr
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: star seed 7 on March 23, 2018, 11:33:05 AM
Tldnr

They're hobos
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: TaqMan on March 23, 2018, 11:35:26 AM
So their mascot is a shitty car that went belly up in the 1970s? That's just weird.

I heard it was some weird old nun who they put in the stands for every game  :dunno:

Edit: Just Googled 'Loyola nun' and was very disappointed to find out she doesn't get all decked out in nun gear. She might need to step it up a notch tomorrow!
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 23, 2018, 11:36:31 AM
So their mascot is a shitty car that went belly up in the 1970s? That's just weird.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/1963_Rambler_Classic_770_four-door_gold-NJ.jpg/220px-1963_Rambler_Classic_770_four-door_gold-NJ.jpg)

My very first car, in 1990
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: 8manpick on March 23, 2018, 12:19:06 PM
Should I try to go to a Loyola watch party and talk crap about mid-majors?

Also, we will be as much more athletic and long than they are as Kentucky was to us.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: The Big Train on March 23, 2018, 12:25:49 PM
Ramblers closed in Wamego so I assume these ramblers are also going out of business soon.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: stunted on March 23, 2018, 02:40:06 PM
Should I try to go to a Loyola watch party and talk crap about mid-majors?

Also, we will be as much more athletic and long than they are as Kentucky was to us.

gritty can beat athletic but soft, can gritty beat athletic and gritty? doubt it. cats by 10+
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2018, 03:14:02 PM
My daughters think they are the Harry Potter team.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2018, 03:17:43 PM
They recruited people to play D1 basketball from Blue Valley  :lol:
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 23, 2018, 03:41:46 PM
By all means, let's laugh at Loyola, but we recruited Clayton Custer hard...and whiffed.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: 8manpick on March 23, 2018, 03:45:23 PM
They recruited people to play D1 basketball from Blue Valley  :lol:
BVNW :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 23, 2018, 03:45:55 PM
Yeah, we were his #1 when Frank was here, but when we hired oscar he changed his mind. crap happens.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2018, 03:52:17 PM
By all means, let's laugh at Loyola, but we recruited Clayton Custer hard...and whiffed.

That isn't accurate, we had a coaching change, oscar didn't prioritize him.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: donbentli on March 23, 2018, 03:55:46 PM
By all means, let's laugh at Loyola, but we recruited Clayton Custer hard...and whiffed.

and we lost him to the Hoiberg cyclones in the midst of a coaching change. he transferred to get to where he is now...
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 23, 2018, 03:56:02 PM
By all means, let's laugh at Loyola, but we recruited Clayton Custer hard...and whiffed.

That isn't accurate, we had a coaching change, oscar didn't prioritize him.

If Wacky is correct, I didn't realize we were his #1 before Frank left. If so, nvrmnd.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2018, 03:57:48 PM
how old is he if Frank recruited him to k-state? Like 29?
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 23, 2018, 03:58:31 PM
By all means, let's laugh at Loyola, but we recruited Clayton Custer hard...and whiffed.

That isn't accurate, we had a coaching change, oscar didn't prioritize him.

If Wacky is correct, I didn't realize we were his #1 before Frank left. If so, nvrmnd.
Yeah, he even recapped it this week on 810.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 23, 2018, 04:01:06 PM
how old is he if Frank recruited him to k-state? Like 29?
I wanna say it was the transition of his Sophomore year of HS to his Junior year. I was still covering KC HS sports at that time on the side.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2018, 04:02:27 PM
i'm glad that dorkasaurus isn't a ksu cat.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2018, 04:07:45 PM
how old is he if Frank recruited him to k-state? Like 29?

Someone said he still has a year of eligibility left :surprised:
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: schreds21 on March 23, 2018, 04:19:08 PM
They recruited people to play D1 basketball from Blue Valley  :lol:
We recruited people to play D1 basketball from St John.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 23, 2018, 04:20:07 PM
how old is he if Frank recruited him to k-state? Like 29?

Someone said he still has a year of eligibility left :surprised:

Refuse to believe this. Time is just one giant sham if this is true.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 23, 2018, 04:31:41 PM
In the Tourney ...

1)Shot it well - 56-97 2pt (57.6) and 21-54 3pt (38.9)
Opponent 53.5 on 2pt, 33% on 3pt
2)OR% difference is almost even
3)FTR only 22% (Opp FTR just 20.3)
4)TO rate about -1.6%. They have TO the ball around 19.4% so we could get that over 20% with our Defense.


Mainly have a 7 man rotation.
 Those 7 have played 95% of the minutes. 
Start 3 guards 1 small forward
1 big guy. 6'9 260 Frosh who has played 55% of Poss in the Tourney.
 Also have  6'5 230 pound Forward who comes off bench.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2018, 04:38:49 PM
In the Tourney ...

1)Shot it well - 56-97 2pt (57.6) and 21-54 3pt (38.9)
Opponent 53.5 on 2pt, 33% on 3pt
2)OR% difference is almost even
3)FTR only 22% (Opp FTR just 20.3)
4)TO rate about -1.6%. They have TO the ball around 19.4% so we could get that over 20% with our Defense.


Mainly have a 7 man rotation.
 Those 7 have played 95% of the minutes. 
Start 3 guards 1 small forward
1 big guy. 6'9 260 Frosh who has played 55% of Poss in the Tourney.
 Also have  6'5 230 pound Forward who comes off bench.

their team is dork city and we're going to win 80-56
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 23, 2018, 04:49:45 PM
turnover % probably the key.  unless one team goes crazy in one direction or the other from 3, of course.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: 8manpick on March 23, 2018, 04:53:37 PM
Myween is going to score 20+
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: meow meow on March 23, 2018, 04:54:47 PM
Myween is going to score 20+

so what you are saying is, return of the Mak?
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 23, 2018, 04:58:24 PM
Tldnr

They're hobos

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trbimg.com%2Fimg-5aaa626e%2Fturbine%2Fct-met-loyola-ncaa-tournament-mascot-bo-rambler-20180313&hash=53facba63700965138951dd9b0238df79f5ba609)
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2018, 06:34:59 PM
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/977318855990239233
https://twitter.com/GrindMode73/status/977325273841627136
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 23, 2018, 07:28:27 PM
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/977318855990239233
https://twitter.com/GrindMode73/status/977325273841627136

So a bunch of tramps?

Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: Trim on March 24, 2018, 11:58:23 AM
All the ramblers talk temporarily mandela effect'd me into thinking that's what randall's move was in clerks.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: HELLHAMMER on March 24, 2018, 01:26:08 PM
[youtube] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMXylcacGE      [/youtube]
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 24, 2018, 02:07:48 PM
In the Tourney ...

1)Shot it well - 56-97 2pt (57.6) and 21-54 3pt (38.9)
Opponent 53.5 on 2pt, 33% on 3pt
2)OR% difference is almost even
3)FTR only 22% (Opp FTR just 20.3)
4)TO rate about -1.6%. They have TO the ball around 19.4% so we could get that over 20% with our Defense.


Loyola biggest strength was same as Creightons biggest strength.  CU was 9th, Loyola 7th is eFG shooting.   Creighton did shoot more 3s. 

1. Loyola doesn't have a high volume shooter like Foster, so while Barry and Sneed will be the fuel for our Defensive fire, we must continue to play great Team Defense. 
2. They worry more about getting back on D than getting OR, so we should be fine as long as we have 4 or 5 going after DR, not just 2-3
3. Their last 13 games, 6 of them they were under 18.0 on FTR. So quite different than the UK team that was getting 45.0  on average.

Only twice in the last 11 games (not counting Ku with no Barry) have we let a team shoot 50% or better on 2pt.  One of those times, the team, TCU, shot just 5-20 on 3Pt. 

Under 50% eFG
20% or more TO.
We win.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: dal9 on March 24, 2018, 04:13:18 PM
did the guy say people call him "big fudge?"
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 24, 2018, 05:18:50 PM
Welp I think mak has missed more shots than the entire ramblers team
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 24, 2018, 06:50:31 PM
we could seriously make the final four.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: catastrophe on March 24, 2018, 07:24:26 PM
Ramblers are a pretty likeable team. I believe they can beat FSU but not Michigan.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 24, 2018, 07:26:46 PM
houston had michigan beat into the ground.  if michigan isn't hitting shots, they'll lose.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2018, 07:29:45 PM
Custer is fast for a Kansas white boy. We didn't have anyone who could stay in front of him.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 24, 2018, 07:32:37 PM
Custer is fast for a Kansas white boy. We didn't have anyone who could stay in front of him.

richardson is faster.  custer is our least athletic guard.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: Skipper44 on March 24, 2018, 07:42:07 PM
houston had michigan beat into the ground.  if michigan isn't hitting shots, they'll lose.
Vagner will give us a look at the healthy Dean what if
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 24, 2018, 07:47:35 PM
houston had michigan beat into the ground.  if michigan isn't hitting shots, they'll lose.
Vagner will give us a look at the healthy Dean what if

hopefully he'll lose today, skipper44.  although fsu's length will be a concern too.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 24, 2018, 08:33:55 PM
i'm not sure i shouldn't be rooting for michigan.  i've never seen them actually play well.  presumably they have, but i've never seen it.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 24, 2018, 09:27:02 PM
i can't tell if michigan is better defensively than i thought or if fsu is worse offensively.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2018, 09:37:02 PM
I've never thought of Michigan as having elite defense but FSU's offense definitely grosses me out. Still want them to win though.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 24, 2018, 09:46:25 PM
i didn't either, but they are killing poor fsu.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2018, 10:08:53 PM
FSU just quit, that was strange.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 24, 2018, 10:16:46 PM
if they miss shots, loyola can take them.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 24, 2018, 10:17:41 PM
apparently they are really good defensively though.  number 4 by kenpom, i never would have guessed.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 24, 2018, 10:18:59 PM
a decent chunk of that is just great dboarding, tho.  well joke's on them, we don't oboard anyways.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2018, 11:04:05 PM
The amazing thing is that Porter Moser is basically Wooly making the Final Four.
Title: Re: Loyala Ramblers Talk
Post by: sys on March 24, 2018, 11:34:45 PM
The amazing thing is that Porter Moser is basically Wooly making the Final Four.

this is basically the first good team he's ever had.  and somehow they not only are good, but they're also in the final four.