Post by: renocat on February 05, 2018, 06:26:18 AM
Gene Taylor said he wants us to win conference titles. We are fighting for the sixth at best. We have to sweep Texas, and beat OSU, ISU and TCU. Winning this game puts is essential if this is going to be a good year. A loss may very well be the beginning of the end for Weber.
Post by: HELLHAMMER on February 05, 2018, 06:55:37 AM
Post by: cat97 on February 05, 2018, 07:48:32 AM
Post by: PIPE on February 05, 2018, 08:44:14 AM
My eyes are still bleeding from watching that crap show Saturday
Post by: 'taterblast on February 05, 2018, 11:32:08 AM
Post by: Woogy on February 05, 2018, 12:02:44 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 05, 2018, 12:04:21 PM
I watch all conference games.Seriously?
Go outside
Post by: renocat on February 05, 2018, 12:14:48 PM
http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/college_sports/longhorns/article/Texas-basketball-Roach-evolving-as-scorer-12547260.php
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2018, 12:19:12 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 05, 2018, 12:22:05 PM
I watch all conference games. Texas is getting better every game. Outplayed TT in Lubbock and should have won. If they beat us they may end up competing with TT and KU for 1st by the end of the conference race. Last few games, they have been making easy threes and tough threes. Hope they break that habit when they play us.
Texas isn't very good. Every team in this conference has looked like they were improving until they didn't.
I don't think KState could have beaten a single conf opponent the way it played the last 3 games. Right before that couldn't lose to a team in this conf.
Post by: KanSt43 on February 05, 2018, 12:22:57 PM
I believe this might be the week that decides oscar for this season at least.
I agree. I think we lose to Texas and somehow beat Tech at home.
Post by: Trim on February 05, 2018, 12:23:38 PM
It's criminal that the big 12 is allowing such an important game for wednesday slotting to take place on lhn.
Post by: catastrophe on February 05, 2018, 12:26:49 PM
Should I watch it? Probably not.
Post by: CHONGS on February 05, 2018, 12:26:54 PM
I believe this might be the week that decides oscar for this season at least.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2018, 09:04:57 PM
Do we still have the coveted "Consecutive Conference Home Non-Losing Seasons" thingy, or did that go bye-bye sometime?Yes.
You, like the rest of us, became aware of that streak during the Wooly years. We've had nothing close to as bad as Wooly and Asbury. It's very difficult for a P5 school to have a losing home record because if the team is mediocre to horrible their non con would be filled with sub 200 RPIs, meaning you'd only need one or two home conference wins. I'd guess Mizzou went sub .500 one of the Kim Anderson years but other than that I can't think of another one recently.
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on February 06, 2018, 09:32:29 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2018, 09:34:46 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 06, 2018, 09:49:51 AM
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on February 06, 2018, 09:51:57 AM
Well, the game is tomorrow not tonight.
I guess i should have started another thread...i meant not a single bball post on the ENTIRE board (note the use of the word entire...all caps even)
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2018, 09:55:47 AM
Well, the game is tomorrow not tonight.
I guess i should have started another thread...i meant not a single bball post on the ENTIRE board (note the use of the word entire...all caps even)
That's fair. Basketball discussion used to be the best of any K-State venue here, but not enough people care anymore. There are other venues where a few more people are willing to discuss the games and the team without every thread devolving into another oscar sucks discussion. I've heard enough oscar sucks stuff, I just still enjoy talking about this team, even with the ups and downs.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 06, 2018, 10:20:49 AM
O'DOYLE RULES!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2018, 10:29:16 AM
oscar SUCKS!
O'DOYLE RULES!
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/d2427b45d69fbd830f273409ea6156a1/tenor.gif?itemid=3456446)
Post by: Yard Dog on February 06, 2018, 10:38:06 AM
Post by: 8manpick on February 06, 2018, 10:48:34 AM
Post by: pvegs on February 06, 2018, 10:54:12 AM
Well, the game is tomorrow not tonight.
I guess i should have started another thread...i meant not a single bball post on the ENTIRE board (note the use of the word entire...all caps even)
That's fair. Basketball discussion used to be the best of any K-State venue here, but not enough people care anymore. There are other venues where a few more people are willing to discuss the games and the team without every thread devolving into another oscar sucks discussion. I've heard enough oscar sucks stuff, I just still enjoy talking about this team, even with the ups and downs.
We got hammered at home in a game a lot of us thought we should at least compete - coming off an excellent run of play, no less. The environment was certainly set. Then we lost as bad as we've lost in 20 years to a team coming off losing 5 of 6. I think many of us would prefer to focus on the games, but when your coach is losing by 38 in year 6 and doesn't have a single competent 5 and only the semblance of a competent bench, where should our focus be?
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2018, 10:55:49 AM
Fan, from your experience is fatigue a good excuse for the steep drop off on shooting percentage? I knew we weren't going to be able to shoot lights out forever, but I always thought we would fall to a more average number that still kept us in games. Dropping to stupid low numbers boggles the mind a little. We are taking less shots near the basket, so I am guessing that when you take jump shots instead of layups your shooting percentage would drop. . .but this much?
I think its just the nature of shooting and relying on it as your offensive strength. You would hope to avoid dramatic drop offs like we saw last week, but I think its reality, plus we have been without Kam, who is one of our 3 best shooters with Dean and Sneed. We will go on another run where we shoot 50% on 2s and 40% on 3s, hopefully starting tomorrow. Plus, we've struggled inside against WVU inside the paint the last several years outside of the upset last year. A good sign is that we shot it really well in Austin last year, but we'll see if there is any correlation this year.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2018, 10:56:32 AM
Well, the game is tomorrow not tonight.
I guess i should have started another thread...i meant not a single bball post on the ENTIRE board (note the use of the word entire...all caps even)
That's fair. Basketball discussion used to be the best of any K-State venue here, but not enough people care anymore. There are other venues where a few more people are willing to discuss the games and the team without every thread devolving into another oscar sucks discussion. I've heard enough oscar sucks stuff, I just still enjoy talking about this team, even with the ups and downs.
We got hammered at home in a game a lot of us thought we should at least compete - coming off an excellent run of play, no less. The environment was certainly set. Then we lost as bad as we've lost in 20 years to a team coming off losing 5 of 6. I think many of us would prefer to focus on the games, but when your coach is losing by 38 in year 6 and doesn't have a single competent 5 and only the semblance of a competent bench, where should our focus be?
I don't disagree with any of that and its fair.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 06, 2018, 10:59:46 AM
Post by: Trim on February 06, 2018, 11:03:51 AM
Well, the game is tomorrow not tonight.
I guess i should have started another thread...i meant not a single bball post on the ENTIRE board (note the use of the word entire...all caps even)
That's fair. Basketball discussion used to be the best of any K-State venue here, but not enough people care anymore. There are other venues where a few more people are willing to discuss the games and the team without every thread devolving into another oscar sucks discussion. I've heard enough oscar sucks stuff, I just still enjoy talking about this team, even with the ups and downs.
We got hammered at home in a game a lot of us thought we should at least compete - coming off an excellent run of play, no less. The environment was certainly set. Then we lost as bad as we've lost in 20 years to a team coming off losing 5 of 6. I think many of us would prefer to focus on the games, but when your coach is losing by 38 in year 6 and doesn't have a single competent 5 and only the semblance of a competent bench, where should our focus be?
Getting that “w.”
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on February 06, 2018, 11:09:24 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2018, 11:17:23 AM
It's always risky to rely on outside shooting. As infuriating as a 38 point loss is it's not overly surprising. A reliance on 3's will also allow you to win games you shouldn't when shots are falling. All that said, eff oscar...sorry Fan :(
Not making 2s was much more problematic than 3s against WVU. But the biggest issue was one of the worst defensive performances in the last 30 years.
Post by: pissclams on February 06, 2018, 11:31:24 AM
Fan, from your experience is fatigue a good excuse for the steep drop off on shooting percentage? I knew we weren't going to be able to shoot lights out forever, but I always thought we would fall to a more average number that still kept us in games. Dropping to stupid low numbers boggles the mind a little. We are taking less shots near the basket, so I am guessing that when you take jump shots instead of layups your shooting percentage would drop. . .but this much?
we’re not very good
teams that aren’t very good don’t shoot very well
Post by: MakeItRain on February 06, 2018, 02:02:38 PM
Fan, from your experience is fatigue a good excuse for the steep drop off on shooting percentage? I knew we weren't going to be able to shoot lights out forever, but I always thought we would fall to a more average number that still kept us in games. Dropping to stupid low numbers boggles the mind a little. We are taking less shots near the basket, so I am guessing that when you take jump shots instead of layups your shooting percentage would drop. . .but this much?
No, it isn't fatigue. It's a combination of regressing to the mean and the last three teams we've faced are good defensively. For 99.98% of college teams who rely on jump shooting, it's going to come and go.
Post by: meow meow on February 06, 2018, 02:27:41 PM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on February 06, 2018, 02:31:39 PM
we’re not very good
teams that aren’t very good don’t shoot very well
This team is shooting better than the Elite 8 team.
Post by: pissclams on February 06, 2018, 02:37:38 PM
season isn’t over yet!we’re not very good
teams that aren’t very good don’t shoot very well
This team is shooting better than the Elite 8 team.
Post by: meow meow on February 06, 2018, 02:39:49 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 06, 2018, 03:06:33 PM
sounds like elite 8 or bust this year!
I wish this team defended half as good as 2010.
Post by: hatingfrancisco on February 06, 2018, 03:21:34 PM
sounds like elite 8 or bust this year!
I wish this team defended half as good as 2010.
And rebound.
Post by: meow meow on February 06, 2018, 03:43:55 PM
sounds like elite 8 or bust this year!
I wish this team defended half as good as 2010.
And rebound.
and play hard
Post by: pissclams on February 06, 2018, 03:44:26 PM
Post by: Trim on February 06, 2018, 03:47:45 PM
Post by: meow meow on February 06, 2018, 04:17:31 PM
What a time 2010 was!
it's our Orange Bowl!
Post by: wetwillie on February 06, 2018, 06:43:40 PM
Post by: I_have_purplewood on February 06, 2018, 07:45:19 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 06, 2018, 09:17:25 PM
Cue the Colon vs. Mawien (Mailwien Man) argument.
That's no argument, at all.
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on February 07, 2018, 09:54:32 AM
Well, the game is tomorrow not tonight.
:dunno:
:bawl:
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 07, 2018, 09:57:05 AM
Post by: meow meow on February 07, 2018, 10:03:45 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2018, 10:11:59 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 07, 2018, 10:13:56 AM
We're going to shoot it well and we're going to beat 'em. Cats by 6.
:whornsdown:
hook em browno
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 07, 2018, 10:14:49 AM
We're going to shoot it well and we're going to beat 'em. Cats by 6.
this would be a very oscar like outcome
Post by: meow meow on February 07, 2018, 10:15:26 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2018, 10:23:21 AM
(https://preview.ibb.co/bHHwQc/TEXAS.png)
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on February 07, 2018, 11:36:31 AM
How many points will their giant have against our 5's?
Post by: wetwillie on February 07, 2018, 12:27:30 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 07, 2018, 01:07:47 PM
We're going to shoot it well and we're going to beat 'em. Cats by 6.
Would take.
Would also be another opportunity for @Testy Westy to boooo and then get publicly smooshed by a oscar :high5:
Post by: Trim on February 07, 2018, 01:12:37 PM
Would also be another opportunity for @Testy Westy to boooo and then get publicly smooshed by a oscar :high5:
Oh man, I forgot that this was the game. :excited:
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 07, 2018, 02:25:38 PM
was pretty amazingWould also be another opportunity for @Testy Westy to boooo and then get publicly smooshed by a oscar :high5:
Oh man, I forgot that this was the game. :excited:
Post by: catastrophe on February 07, 2018, 09:01:19 PM
TEXAS! FIGHT!
Dang, tough break guys.
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on February 07, 2018, 09:03:55 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2018, 09:19:15 PM
We're going to shoot it well and we're going to beat 'em. Cats by 6.
Sorry I screwed this up guys. Won't happen again.
Post by: wetwillie on February 07, 2018, 09:22:18 PM
Winning tonight and losing Saturday would upset me
:angry:
Post by: MakeItRain on February 07, 2018, 09:35:39 PM
Winning tonight and losing Saturday would upset me
:angry:
Might I ask why?
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2018, 09:37:26 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/gy5eVc/1_7_18_ADV_Stats_vs_UT.png)
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 07, 2018, 09:56:16 PM
Rest of the way, in 56 Possessions they had 50 pts (15 TOs, 25% 3pt, 48% 2pt)
We got points on 9 of final 12 Possessions. Glad Barry missing the front end of 1-and-1 didn't prove costly. Diarra & Sneed with some big hoops. Barry dishing the rock. Tip my hat to Love who actually gave us some decent minutes from a "Big off the bench"
Post by: CHONGS on February 07, 2018, 09:56:47 PM
Xtensione
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 07, 2018, 09:57:02 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 07, 2018, 09:59:40 PM
Winning tonight and losing Saturday would upset me
:angry:
Might I ask why?
No
Post by: CHONGS on February 07, 2018, 10:00:14 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2018, 10:05:14 PM
Where's Love's O Rating?
Corrected.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 07, 2018, 10:16:03 PM
Winning tonight and losing Saturday would upset me
:angry:
Might I ask why?
No
:curse:
Post by: joaks01 on February 07, 2018, 10:19:39 PM
Beating Tech on Saturday would make it a solid 4 game stretch and would do wonders for our resume. It would also do wonders for KU’s Big 12 title streak but wgaf, as long as we finish strong.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 07, 2018, 10:21:44 PM
Post by: renocat on February 07, 2018, 10:58:48 PM
It was good to have good ballhandlers and freel throw shooters on the floor at the end of the game.
I think good defense won this game.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2018, 08:58:48 AM
Who guarded Roach?
Everyone. We switched everything and Texas couldn't adjust to it.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 08, 2018, 09:39:18 AM
Going 23-37 on 2pt with Bamba patrolling the middle, only getting 1 block.
Post by: hatingfrancisco on February 08, 2018, 09:40:30 AM
Post by: PIPE on February 08, 2018, 09:44:35 AM
He went man at the end and we carved it up.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2018, 10:53:12 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 08, 2018, 11:22:18 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 08, 2018, 12:17:23 PM
Has Stokes made a basket since coming back?
0-5, all 3s. I can't complain about any shot he's taken though and he's distributing the ball really well with an assist to TO of 7:2 in only 24 minutes.
Post by: The Whale on February 08, 2018, 12:23:57 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on February 08, 2018, 12:49:09 PM
I can't believe Shaka came out of the zone in the 2nd half. We do what we do best against a zone, became a jump shooting team.......clank, clank, clank. :Yuck:true but we get great looks, especially for Wade around the foul line. He looks so free and easy on those it has to drive other coaches crazy to give them up.
He went man at the end and we carved it up.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 08, 2018, 12:52:02 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 08, 2018, 01:11:48 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 09, 2018, 11:24:56 AM
more like Shaka not so smart amirite?!he’s in so over his head it’s embarrassing
Post by: wetwillie on February 09, 2018, 11:49:59 AM
more like Shaka not so smart amirite?!he’s in so over his head it’s embarrassing
It is starting to feel like that for sure
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2018, 11:59:48 AM
I don't know why he went away from pressure defense. I think his havoc system masked a lot of his faults as a coach.
Post by: catastrophe on February 09, 2018, 01:06:11 PM
Post by: catastrophe on February 09, 2018, 01:09:05 PM
Post by: renocat on February 09, 2018, 03:02:28 PM