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Title: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 01, 2018, 05:45:28 PM
I am just starting episode 6.

Ulrich didn't really rape Katerina, did he? She appeared to have a black eye at the end of that episode.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 01, 2018, 08:26:28 PM
Also why did they arrest him so quickly without talking to the girl? This was way before the #metoo movement,  back when guys were innocent until proven guilty.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Joker on February 01, 2018, 08:37:31 PM
No, he didn't rape her.  If I remember correctly the show didn't really explain her black eye.  I assume she had a rough life at home.

The old detective had it out for Ulrich from the get go.  He was looking for a reason to nail him and the rape allegation provided that.

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Title: Re: Dark
Post by: mocat on February 01, 2018, 08:40:54 PM
No, he didn't rape her.  If I remember correctly the show didn't really explain her black eye.  I assume she had a rough life at home.

The old detective had it out for Ulrich from the get go.  He was looking for a reason to nail him and the rape allegation provided that.

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It wasn't Ulrich, she said who it was later in the show
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: mocat on February 01, 2018, 08:41:53 PM
Also why did they arrest him so quickly without talking to the girl? This was way before the #metoo movement,  back when guys were innocent until proven guilty.

Germany was different? and also that cop had a hard on for Ulrich
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: BackPayne on February 01, 2018, 10:30:32 PM
Just came on here to see if anyone else is watching this. I'm through episode 5 and really like it.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 12, 2018, 06:02:20 PM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 13, 2018, 09:08:12 AM
:sdeek:

I'm in the middle of episode 8 but I didn't get to finish it yet....but my preliminary assessment is (SPOILER)...





that

this

is

all

Ulrich's

fault.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: mocat on February 13, 2018, 09:30:31 AM
why don't you get back to me once you've hannah chance to watch all the episodes
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 13, 2018, 09:33:20 AM
why don't you get back to me once you've hannah chance to watch all the episodes

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 13, 2018, 09:42:19 AM
Also, did Ulrich & Jonas go into the same cave opening but come out at different times? Or was there something different about where they entered that I missed?
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: mocat on February 13, 2018, 09:46:11 AM
Also, did Ulrich & Jonas go into the same cave opening but come out at different times? Or was there something different about where they entered that I missed?

Mrs Gooch, just finish the series
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2018, 09:50:52 AM
No, he didn't rape her.  If I remember correctly the show didn't really explain her black eye.  I assume she had a rough life at home.

The old detective had it out for Ulrich from the get go.  He was looking for a reason to nail him and the rape allegation provided that.

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It wasn't Ulrich, she said who it was later in the show

she did? I always thought it could have been Ulrich.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 13, 2018, 09:55:20 AM
Also, did Ulrich & Jonas go into the same cave opening but come out at different times? Or was there something different about where they entered that I missed?

Mrs Gooch, just finish the series

I mean I saw the explanation about the three different branches of time or whatever. But I couldn't tell if there was something that caused them to come out at the different branches of that trigram or whatever. I mean obviously Jonas is going to figure it out sooner or later....

And are there only three times that are connected or infinite numbers of times (all 33 years apart)?
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Cire on February 13, 2018, 10:16:40 AM
I like it,

hard to follow everything, wish it was just in English. 
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 13, 2018, 10:18:11 AM
I like it,

hard to follow everything, wish it was just in English.

It is in English if you turn on the English audio.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Cire on February 13, 2018, 10:21:46 AM
Yeah, I've watched it both ways, The English is really corny but that's how I usually roll.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 13, 2018, 10:28:10 AM
Yeah, I've watched it both ways, The English is really corny but that's how I usually roll.

I don't think the subtitles are really giving the full dialog, based on some of the differences between audio & subtitles.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Cire on February 13, 2018, 12:06:55 PM
That's interesting.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 13, 2018, 07:26:54 PM
Ok so is that priest Tronte's dad?
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Joker on February 13, 2018, 08:41:58 PM
Possibly.  A lot of mystery surrounding Noah.  A very devilish character, indeed.

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Tronte moved to Winden in 1953 with his mother, Agnes. They rent a room in Doris Tiedemann's house, where he first meets her daughter, Claudia. Doris briefly asks Agnes about Tronte's father, to which she replies he had died before adding that he was a reverend that didn't believe in the divine, leading to speculation he might be, in fact, Noah.

http://dark-netflix.wikia.com/wiki/Tronte_Nielsen
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 13, 2018, 09:07:27 PM
How did Helge get back from that bunk bed room to 1953?
Does Ulrich ever get out of 1953?
How did the people in the future know that Jonas was from the past?
If there is only a past, present, and future in play at a given time; does that mean that now 1953 is out of the loop (and therefore Ulrich is stuck)?
Maybe if Ulrich hadn't bashed in Helge's head, he wouldn't have been so easily manipulated by Noah as an adult?
Does Noah really not age or is he just travelling through time a lot?
Still not clear on how Mikkel/Jonas and Ulrich came out at different times.
Why did Micheal kill himself? Was seeing himself grow up driving him crazy?
Why is Hannah such a bitch?
What were all those burns on Tronte's arm? Where they early experiments by his father, Noah?
Could Noah and Bartosz be the same person?
Why are there so many affairs going on in Winden?
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 14, 2018, 08:27:50 AM
Who are the two boys found dead in 1953? One of them seems to be the red headed boy that went missing before Mikkel (who no one seems to care about), but who was the other?
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: mocat on February 14, 2018, 10:15:49 AM
Who are the two boys found dead in 1953? One of them seems to be the red headed boy that went missing before Mikkel (who no one seems to care about), but who was the other?

one of them was the original lost boy from 2019 (Erik)
the other one was Yasin the deaf kid who was a friend of Elisabeth Doppler (the deaf girl/sister to Franziska)
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Joker on February 14, 2018, 10:21:35 AM
Mrs. Gooch, have you finished the series yet?
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 14, 2018, 11:02:56 AM
Mrs. Gooch, have you finished the series yet?

Yes, that is why I have all these questions. They did not get answered.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: mocat on February 14, 2018, 11:06:40 AM
this link Joker posted a while back has some good discussion about the unanswered questions

http://www.thisisinsider.com/dark-unanswered-questions-netflix-2017-12 (http://www.thisisinsider.com/dark-unanswered-questions-netflix-2017-12)
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Joker on February 14, 2018, 11:15:47 AM
Yeah, I would check out this article.  It explains a lot and proposes some good theories.  http://www.thisisinsider.com/dark-season-finale-analysis-2017-12

Also, the Netflix site does a good job of summarizing characters and their relationships.  https://dark.netflix.io/
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 14, 2018, 12:52:02 PM
Why did older-Jonas write "When is Mikkel?" He already knew because his younger-self had followed Mikkel to 1986 and saw him there.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: michigancat on February 14, 2018, 12:55:17 PM
Why did older-Jonas write "When is Mikkel?" He already knew because his younger-self had followed Mikkel to 1986 and saw him there.

might be leaving clues for someone. It's kind of weird to go to all that work in a hotel room.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Joker on February 14, 2018, 01:00:55 PM
Maybe Regina needs to see it?
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 14, 2018, 01:02:20 PM
How is Aleksander's last name Tiedemann? Did he take his wife's last name? Is that common in Germany?
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 14, 2018, 01:03:20 PM
Why did older-Jonas write "When is Mikkel?" He already knew because his younger-self had followed Mikkel to 1986 and saw him there.

might be leaving clues for someone. It's kind of weird to go to all that work in a hotel room.

Well he doesn't have anywhere else to do it.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Joker on February 14, 2018, 01:53:37 PM
How is Aleksander's last name Tiedemann? Did he take his wife's last name? Is that common in Germany?


That's not his real name.  He was running from something/someone in his past so I assume he took the name to cover things up.


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Aleksander Tiedemann is not who he claims to be. When he came to Winden, 33 years ago, he buried his true identity in a platic bag in the forest: A passport in the name of Boris Niewald.

Title: Re: Dark
Post by: wetwillie on February 14, 2018, 01:58:18 PM
I think I need to read the books for a clearer picture
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 14, 2018, 02:03:01 PM
How is Aleksander's last name Tiedemann? Did he take his wife's last name? Is that common in Germany?


That's not his real name.  He was running from something/someone in his past so I assume he took the name to cover things up.


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Aleksander Tiedemann is not who he claims to be. When he came to Winden, 33 years ago, he buried his true identity in a platic bag in the forest: A passport in the name of Boris Niewald.

Yeah, I understand that is not his real name but you don't just go into a town and meet a girl and then take her last name. That would be weird.
The name on his fake passport is Aleksander Kohler.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Joker on February 14, 2018, 02:09:24 PM
How is Aleksander's last name Tiedemann? Did he take his wife's last name? Is that common in Germany?


That's not his real name.  He was running from something/someone in his past so I assume he took the name to cover things up.


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Aleksander Tiedemann is not who he claims to be. When he came to Winden, 33 years ago, he buried his true identity in a platic bag in the forest: A passport in the name of Boris Niewald.

Yeah, I understand that is not his real name but you don't just go into a town and meet a girl and then take her last name. That would be weird.
The name on his fake passport is Aleksander Kohler.


I agree, it's a good catch and it does seem kind of odd.  However, he started working for Claudia so maybe she took him in and pushed the name change.


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Aleksander has another secret. Claudia Tiedemann, his future mother-in-law, hired him for a secret task when he was young and homeless. He welded the door to the cave shut — the door that Ulrich found when he went looking for Mikkel. Does the door have something to do with the barrels of nuclear waste, that Bernd showed Claudia in the cave in 1986? Aleksander knows all too well about the connection between the cave and the nuclear power station. When Ulrich asks him about it, he lies.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: michigancat on February 14, 2018, 02:40:05 PM
I don't understand how Mikkel and Ulrich can hear each other in different times in an early episode. things like that never happened again IIRC
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 14, 2018, 02:59:53 PM
I don't understand how Mikkel and Ulrich can hear each other in different times in an early episode. things like that never happened again IIRC

Sound waves travel through that tunnel just as easily as people.
Title: Re: Dark
Post by: Joker on February 14, 2018, 03:15:03 PM
I don't understand how Mikkel and Ulrich can hear each other in different times in an early episode. things like that never happened again IIRC

Sound waves travel through that tunnel just as easily as people.


That was my guess, too.  Their simultaneous proximity to the worm hole allowed for the voices to travel through.