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Post by: catastrophe on January 27, 2018, 07:57:29 AM
I don't really care about basketball now.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2018, 09:06:56 AM
I hope everyone that thinks "dean wolf" is something clever or cool gets robbed or mumped up tonight. There is no reason our once proud program should be hur hurring about the dumbest mother rough ridin' nickname I have ever seen in the history of life. eff all of you dipshits supporting this rough ridin' loserism crap
This guy.
Post by: renocat on January 27, 2018, 09:33:32 AM
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 27, 2018, 11:33:18 AM
Our winning the conference this year outright is just the tough love needed to really put a burr under their ass. Maybe Self will drop those "freshman 20" he's put on in recent years and stop settling for recruits not good enough to get a Duke offer.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2018, 11:36:17 AM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 27, 2018, 06:37:19 PM
Always hoping for a little bro win for the children's sake.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 27, 2018, 11:59:30 PM
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Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 28, 2018, 12:00:15 AM
You aren't EMAW if you are rooting for KU.But wacky has an excuse, he is like half Hawk right?
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 28, 2018, 12:04:36 AM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 28, 2018, 12:14:29 AM
Greg, love you, let's do a 1 on 1 on how this board operates soon. It's a joke board, friend. :cheers:I know I just made one bud.
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Post by: IPA4Me on January 28, 2018, 07:07:32 AM
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Post by: EMAWzifried on January 28, 2018, 01:54:51 PM
This is their biggest game of the year. This is the one time that the Octagon of Odd will be sold out. The one time in the year when the "F--k KU" chants during Sandstorm go from being weird and confusing to outright stupid and pathetic. This is the classic Little Brother seeking the one up on Big Brother. Its always more important for them.
When you lose >95% of the time to your rival the last 20 years, these games are huge to you.
This win also sets up KSU as a tournament team and buys Squeaks another year. At least.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 28, 2018, 01:59:57 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 28, 2018, 02:50:48 PM
The Octagon will rocking with a lot of new overalls and old hatred. That damn OU game, we'd be in such good shape ..... oh well. Crazy thing, from K-State perspective, if they had scored on the final possession at Allen, they'd be 6-2 and 1 game clear of everyone, in position to go 2 up on KU.....Yikes I shudder at that thought. Hope Self has something for Wade tomorrow night because Doke out there hedging on screens is not the answer. Seems like Lightfoot or Svi would be the best match up. That damn Diaharra went around Devonte multiple times in Lawrence, I'm sure they'll have him try again. Gonna need some good 3 pt shooting, Good Newman to show up, Vick would be a plus, Devonte to return to form. It will be loud, intense and hopefully fun as it usually means a KU win.
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Post by: Cire on January 29, 2018, 10:04:48 AM
Hope Jay Bilas has the call.
His love of KU and sultry tones are sure to give any true Jayhawk a boner.
Fran, could be great.
Beems will flip out.
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Post by: Cire on January 29, 2018, 12:02:07 PM
I'll be very disappointed if we don't win tonight.
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Still hundreds left to buy on the Tater AD website, not to mention all of the ticket brokers selling them. Any doubt Fran will announce a "sold out Octagon of Dumb?"
Post by: meow meow on January 29, 2018, 01:26:52 PM
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 29, 2018, 02:37:18 PM
Guys, we didn't even want Phog Allen. Probably was a good choice in retrospect. http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/article197239894.htmlWho was/is Phog Allen? Never heard of him.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 29, 2018, 02:39:48 PM
Is this where we put the predicto score thing? :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:) I always liked those. :fistpump: :fistpump: (ftp://:fistpump: :fistpump:)
Cats 79 Hawks 71 (sorry Hawks)
Post by: I_have_purplewood on January 29, 2018, 02:41:13 PM
Is this where we put the predicto score thing? :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:) I always liked those. :fistpump: :fistpump: (ftp://:fistpump: :fistpump:)
Cats 79 Hawks 71 (sorry Hawks)
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Post by: Yard Dog on January 29, 2018, 02:47:48 PM
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Post by: steve dave on January 29, 2018, 02:54:27 PM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on January 29, 2018, 02:55:52 PM
87-70 Cats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 29, 2018, 03:02:19 PM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on January 29, 2018, 03:05:48 PM
Kevin Pritchard aint walking through that door.
87-70 Cats
I wanted to clarify. I don't "think" Kevin Pritchard is coming. The Pacers have a home game against Charlotte tonight (6 p.m.) so I just assumed he would be busy.
Post by: pissclams on January 29, 2018, 03:07:59 PM
so, in an effort to protect the sanctity of lawrentucky teens, I hope we win
Post by: pissclams on January 29, 2018, 03:09:03 PM
gah.. I don’t know now
Post by: Yard Dog on January 29, 2018, 03:10:25 PM
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Post by: I_have_purplewood on January 29, 2018, 04:17:30 PM
I guess I just want the least amount of 16 year olds to be raped by ku hoops players tonight, whatever it takes
For the love of Christ can someone man up and try and sneak some saltpeter in their gatorade before the game?
Post by: AppleJack on January 29, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
Thoughts?
Post by: wetwillie on January 29, 2018, 04:34:22 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 29, 2018, 04:54:52 PM
Allegiance to K-State, or fear of the violent outbursts from KU T-Shirt Nation?
Post by: Yard Dog on January 29, 2018, 04:59:34 PM
I bet they made their big post guy practice ft's and we will fall into the trap of fouling him
Maybe he has practiced so many ft's that he forgot to practice shots near the rim? :crossfingers:
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Post by: pissclams on January 29, 2018, 08:23:22 PM
Good God we're chucking bricks up there.it’s crazy- I thought we would shoot 900% all season like so many others here did
Post by: CHONGS on January 29, 2018, 08:27:06 PM
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Post by: Yard Dog on January 29, 2018, 09:08:22 PM
I’m up and down on oscar generally, but I’m just amazed at how we always seem to be so helpless against a zone.
Why do we have Sneed in the middle??
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Post by: catastrophe on January 29, 2018, 09:09:48 PM
Post by: Yard Dog on January 29, 2018, 09:10:48 PM
Sneed has been pretty cold tonight. Our guys definitely seem just a bit too amped up.
I feel like he has been cold all of BIGXII play.
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Post by: The Big Train on January 29, 2018, 09:48:53 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 29, 2018, 09:58:16 PM
How do we not have an effective zone offense...still???
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It was seemingly worse under Martin, which is hard to fathom.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 29, 2018, 09:58:52 PM
Post by: I_have_purplewood on January 29, 2018, 10:01:42 PM
On another note my neighbor has started blowing off fireworks and clanking a can in his driveway to a likely KU victory. SD was right, they need this.
Post by: catastrophe on January 29, 2018, 10:04:32 PM
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Post by: mocat on January 29, 2018, 10:20:13 PM
https://twitter.com/cdotharrison/status/958192070979735552
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 29, 2018, 10:23:22 PM
He was good vs WV
Other 10 games =
23.5% 3pt
42.4% 2pt
38.1 eFG
He's killing us with his dismal shooting.
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Post by: The Big Train on January 29, 2018, 10:36:38 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 29, 2018, 10:37:36 PM
oscar never prepared for one because he’s a rough ridin' downgrade.
Post by: The Big Train on January 29, 2018, 10:38:33 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 29, 2018, 10:40:30 PM
we just have headworms against ku and are scaredy-cats of them
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 29, 2018, 10:45:44 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 29, 2018, 10:48:03 PM
I blame Oscar for X not giving up the ball on the fast break to Diarra. No top-drawer coach would put up with that shite. Yeah, the take on dribble and pass it to the guy standing ten feet away zone offense was a tell of Weber's lack of preparation.
This is the kind of oscar apologist downgrade response I crave.
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 29, 2018, 10:48:40 PM
They were 107% eFG, 9 TOs and had 31-16 lead.
The next 14:45 Ku went 2-17 FG with 5 TOs.
We had only cut lead to 42-35. ( I mean 35 pts in 47 effing Possessions)
Svi hits 3 at 13:00 mark to make it 45-35 (this after Stockard fouls Doke on rebound, giving Ku extended possession)
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Post by: meow meow on January 30, 2018, 08:36:32 AM
I just can't meltdown over these games vs lil bro anymore. Just happy there was something on TV on a Monday night.
even the meltdown king can't muster up a good meltdown #BID #Apathy
Post by: kso_FAN on January 30, 2018, 08:37:57 AM
Hey look sometime just overhelped off Svi. Sure we gave up another wide open corner three, but at least they didn't attempt the layup!
Probably the most frustrating thing for me watching that game. I can't believe how many times we helped off the best shooter in the Big 12. That said, Svi has developed into a really, really good player. He's a pro.
Post by: cat97 on January 30, 2018, 09:04:37 AM
Good post. We should have put Diarra on Svi and tell him stay in shorts no matter what. We would have given up some twos but I'm not even sure about that.Hey look sometime just overhelped off Svi. Sure we gave up another wide open corner three, but at least they didn't attempt the layup!
Probably the most frustrating thing for me watching that game. I can't believe how many times we helped off the best shooter in the Big 12. That said, Svi has developed into a really, really good player. He's a pro.
Post by: mocat on January 30, 2018, 09:06:09 AM
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Post by: DQ12 on January 30, 2018, 09:19:08 AM
Shooting 32% from the field and 22% (6-27) from three isn't going to be close to getting it done.
Post by: steve dave on January 30, 2018, 09:22:58 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 30, 2018, 09:47:59 AM
I guess at this point we just have to accept that this team is going to average a -10 rebounding differential on a nightly basis. That's a given for me at this point. So if that's the case, we need to be great at everything else to compensate -- including shooting at a high level. The Svi stuff was frustrating last night, but I think our actual defense played fine otherwise -- we turned KU over 16 times. If you would've told me KU was going to score 70 last night, I would've liked our odds.
Shooting 32% from the field and 22% (6-27) from three isn't going to be close to getting it done.
If there is any game in the history of basketball where it is a really bad idea to look at "total rebounds" as some justifiable measure of true rebounding prowess, this is one of them. Both teams rebounded the ball roughly at the same rate.
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 30, 2018, 10:06:34 AM
Ku only had 1 OR with 16:30 left in 2nd half
They didn't get pts off a OR until 3:19 in the game.
Now there was 2 deadball Rebounds where we fouled on a Ku FG miss (Stockard foul) and a FT miss (Wade foul). They scored on those extended possessions Both times (5 pts)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 30, 2018, 10:08:03 AM
I guess at this point we just have to accept that this team is going to average a -10 rebounding differential on a nightly basis. That's a given for me at this point. So if that's the case, we need to be great at everything else to compensate -- including shooting at a high level. The Svi stuff was frustrating last night, but I think our actual defense played fine otherwise -- we turned KU over 16 times. If you would've told me KU was going to score 70 last night, I would've liked our odds.
Shooting 32% from the field and 22% (6-27) from three isn't going to be close to getting it done.
If there is any game in the history of basketball where it is a really bad idea to look at "total rebounds" as some justifiable measure of true rebounding prowess, this is one of them. Both teams rebounded the ball roughly at the same rate.
Both teams are awful at rebounding, which is even more of a reason why both teams need to shoot well to win games. They won't get many 2nd chance opportunitites.
I remember the 2nd chance opportunities Frank's teams would get. Sometimes guys like Curtis Kelley would get his rebound twice before getting it back in the bucket. Nobody cared as much how well we shot because we would always keep possession and eventually find the hoop. I miss that.
Post by: DQ12 on January 30, 2018, 10:14:29 AM
Admittedly, I'm not a statmaster for hoops, so I don't really understand what you mean, but I'll take your word for it. That said, lastnight's total rebounding differential is pretty consistent with our numbers in conference play. We've gotten our asses kicked on the boards in every conference game except for 2 (@AFH was the other one).I guess at this point we just have to accept that this team is going to average a -10 rebounding differential on a nightly basis. That's a given for me at this point. So if that's the case, we need to be great at everything else to compensate -- including shooting at a high level. The Svi stuff was frustrating last night, but I think our actual defense played fine otherwise -- we turned KU over 16 times. If you would've told me KU was going to score 70 last night, I would've liked our odds.
Shooting 32% from the field and 22% (6-27) from three isn't going to be close to getting it done.
If there is any game in the history of basketball where it is a really bad idea to look at "total rebounds" as some justifiable measure of true rebounding prowess, this is one of them. Both teams rebounded the ball roughly at the same rate.
I think our lack of rebounding (in general) leaves us with next to no room for error for bad shooting nights, last night's game notwithstanding.
Post by: mocat on January 30, 2018, 10:20:50 AM
Admittedly, I'm not a statmaster for hoops, so I don't really understand what you mean, but I'll take your word for it. That said, lastnight's total rebounding differential is pretty consistent with our numbers in conference play. We've gotten our asses kicked on the boards in every conference game except for 2 (@AFH was the other one).I guess at this point we just have to accept that this team is going to average a -10 rebounding differential on a nightly basis. That's a given for me at this point. So if that's the case, we need to be great at everything else to compensate -- including shooting at a high level. The Svi stuff was frustrating last night, but I think our actual defense played fine otherwise -- we turned KU over 16 times. If you would've told me KU was going to score 70 last night, I would've liked our odds.
Shooting 32% from the field and 22% (6-27) from three isn't going to be close to getting it done.
If there is any game in the history of basketball where it is a really bad idea to look at "total rebounds" as some justifiable measure of true rebounding prowess, this is one of them. Both teams rebounded the ball roughly at the same rate.
I think our lack of rebounding (in general) leaves us with next to no room for error for bad shooting nights, last night's game notwithstanding.
what he means is we didn't have a chance to rebound in the 1st half because ku hit every shot
Post by: catastrophe on January 30, 2018, 10:22:30 AM
Admittedly, I'm not a statmaster for hoops, so I don't really understand what you mean, but I'll take your word for it. That said, lastnight's total rebounding differential is pretty consistent with our numbers in conference play. We've gotten our asses kicked on the boards in every conference game except for 2 (@AFH was the other one).
I think our lack of rebounding (in general) leaves us with next to no room for error for bad shooting nights, last night's game notwithstanding.
How good do we really have to be at shooting? Our season average is over 75 ppg, and KU was giving up something like 70 before last night. Yeah, KU played good defense and Bill always manages to do something to completely fluster our guys, but last night was still an anomaly. We sacrifice a strong presence under the rim for guys who can shoot, and it has paid off more often than not. Also, as I said from the outset, our only chance of making a deep run in the tournament is by shooting well--especially from 3. I am fine with sticking with that game plan, even if it means we will die by the 3 some games like we did last night.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 30, 2018, 10:26:06 AM
That and they had 11 turnooversAdmittedly, I'm not a statmaster for hoops, so I don't really understand what you mean, but I'll take your word for it. That said, lastnight's total rebounding differential is pretty consistent with our numbers in conference play. We've gotten our asses kicked on the boards in every conference game except for 2 (@AFH was the other one).I guess at this point we just have to accept that this team is going to average a -10 rebounding differential on a nightly basis. That's a given for me at this point. So if that's the case, we need to be great at everything else to compensate -- including shooting at a high level. The Svi stuff was frustrating last night, but I think our actual defense played fine otherwise -- we turned KU over 16 times. If you would've told me KU was going to score 70 last night, I would've liked our odds.
Shooting 32% from the field and 22% (6-27) from three isn't going to be close to getting it done.
If there is any game in the history of basketball where it is a really bad idea to look at "total rebounds" as some justifiable measure of true rebounding prowess, this is one of them. Both teams rebounded the ball roughly at the same rate.
I think our lack of rebounding (in general) leaves us with next to no room for error for bad shooting nights, last night's game notwithstanding.
what he means is we didn't have a chance to rebound in the 1st half because ku hit every shot
Post by: mocat on January 30, 2018, 10:26:58 AM
That and they had 11 turnooversAdmittedly, I'm not a statmaster for hoops, so I don't really understand what you mean, but I'll take your word for it. That said, lastnight's total rebounding differential is pretty consistent with our numbers in conference play. We've gotten our asses kicked on the boards in every conference game except for 2 (@AFH was the other one).I guess at this point we just have to accept that this team is going to average a -10 rebounding differential on a nightly basis. That's a given for me at this point. So if that's the case, we need to be great at everything else to compensate -- including shooting at a high level. The Svi stuff was frustrating last night, but I think our actual defense played fine otherwise -- we turned KU over 16 times. If you would've told me KU was going to score 70 last night, I would've liked our odds.
Shooting 32% from the field and 22% (6-27) from three isn't going to be close to getting it done.
If there is any game in the history of basketball where it is a really bad idea to look at "total rebounds" as some justifiable measure of true rebounding prowess, this is one of them. Both teams rebounded the ball roughly at the same rate.
I think our lack of rebounding (in general) leaves us with next to no room for error for bad shooting nights, last night's game notwithstanding.
what he means is we didn't have a chance to rebound in the 1st half because ku hit every shot
yep. very weird half
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 30, 2018, 10:28:32 AM
Post by: DQ12 on January 30, 2018, 10:36:46 AM
what he means is we didn't have a chance to rebound in the 1st half because ku hit every shotAh okay. Of course. That makes complete sense.
I agree.Admittedly, I'm not a statmaster for hoops, so I don't really understand what you mean, but I'll take your word for it. That said, lastnight's total rebounding differential is pretty consistent with our numbers in conference play. We've gotten our asses kicked on the boards in every conference game except for 2 (@AFH was the other one).
I think our lack of rebounding (in general) leaves us with next to no room for error for bad shooting nights, last night's game notwithstanding.
How good do we really have to be at shooting? Our season average is over 75 ppg, and KU was giving up something like 70 before last night. Yeah, KU played good defense and Bill always manages to do something to completely fluster our guys, but last night was still an anomaly. We sacrifice a strong presence under the rim for guys who can shoot, and it has paid off more often than not. Also, as I said from the outset, our only chance of making a deep run in the tournament is by shooting well--especially from 3. I am fine with sticking with that game plan, even if it means we will die by the 3 some games like we did last night.
Post by: mocat on January 30, 2018, 10:38:44 AM
Svi is probably going to go down on my top 5 all hate team for KU. :frown:
i also don't like him (irrationally) but man that block was an amaze play
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Post by: Powercat Posse on January 30, 2018, 12:39:36 PM
im still scratching my head at our poor (normal) shooting performance, just can’t figure it out
At one point, we were 12-46 FG.
Ku was lava hot early shooting. But they went cold for long period. We cut the lead to 32-27. Then the next 20 Possessions the score was Ku 10 Kstate 8.
Ku missed 1st 11 shots in the 2nd half. We had our opportunity to take the lead, but our offense just continued to be soooo bad.
Post by: manpow5 on January 30, 2018, 01:23:13 PM
Post by: SleepFighter on January 30, 2018, 02:53:23 PM
I'd prefer that was something that we were better at. Getting a potential associated rebounding boost would be a nice bonus.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 30, 2018, 07:49:42 PM