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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: GregKSU1027 on January 17, 2018, 10:32:40 AM
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I just overheard Kam and a friend while walking through Hale that he hopes to be out of the boot next week, and back on the court practicing as well.
If true the foot injury seems to be a lot less severe than we have been lead to think.
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Stress fractures are weird and everyone heals differently. That's good to hear though.
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Good report Greg that's the kind of scoops we need around here.
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Deathbite (Stokes) vs. Riphide (Cartier). I start Diarra. Bring more versatility to the offense. Get tired of the chuck, miss, and no rebound offense of Stokes. Layups have a higher completion rate.
Note. TCUs starting guard just injured in practice and likely out for the season.
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Injuries seem to be happening a lot in basketball lately
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So, after seeing the first game of the year where Diarra played, I called the old man and said in no uncertain terms that if this team is going anywhere, then it will be with this cat, because he's the only point guard on the team. oscar immediately starts to jerk him around, and he gets relatively insignificant minutes going forward. I couldn't rough ridin' believe it. This kid is so obviously more suited to run point than Kam that I just don't get how a D1 coach can miss it. And then, for the alternative to be forcing this team to go "big", so we put Mawein and the other dumb fucks out there to try to find their ass in an increasingly desperate rotation, man, oscar is one dumb mother rough rider. I mean, I'm glad that the basketball gods forced him to open up his gd eyes, but christ. If Kam comes back and plays point I will lose my rough ridin' mind. This team does not need a center. In fact, we should play that quartet of suck as little as is feasible. No reason we can't go Diarra, Kam, Brown, Sneed, Wade. In fact, that team could make some noise. If oscar weren't so busy picking belly button lint he would have seen that, and I have no real confidence that he's learned his lesson either.
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Just judging by his folks, I'd give the nod to Diarra. Winning runs in his jeans...
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i get why people don't like kam: he's a chucker, not a classic pg, and is good for one inexplicably dumb play per game.
but, having rewatched the OU game: kam would be getting killed on here if he had the game diarra had last night...couple late layups don't change that...
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Injuries seem to be happening a lot in basketball lately
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i get why people don't like kam: he's a chucker, not a classic pg, and is good for one inexplicably dumb play per game.
but, having rewatched the OU game: kam would be getting killed on here if he had the game diarra had last night...couple late layups don't change that...
I love Kam, he isn't scared of anything, and is really fun to watch. I really hope we don't spend the next year having 236,484,037 Kam vs. Cartier arguments.
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Start Kam let him fire off 2 threes, if he goes 0 for 2, he sits. He is a dude that can win you a game when he is hot or shoot you out of one when he’s not. I like Cartier better but that may be because he’s shooting almost 50% from 3 lately. Kam can’t play when he is cold tho because he will NOT stop firing.
More Kam seems to mean Less Barry which is also bad for this team.
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Just go small. Problem solved. No 5.
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Just go small. Problem solved. No 5.
yeah, they should both play. It's just that Cartier needs to run point. This offense is completely different with him out front. Kam is a shooting guard, pure and simple.
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Kam On the floor will make your team suck usually
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they'd foul wade out at the five i think is the worry
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Just go small. Problem solved. No 5.
When you have the 5s we have, this is a really good plan.
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kams a stud. i still get flashbacks of him spazzing out every time he has the ball, but it works out a lot more often this year. >40% from 3 as a chucker, and only 2 to's and 1 foul a game as a "guy who makes stupid plays".
i like that we have a death lineup like the warriors and hope we see it a lot. they should start, and stagger the rotations so that we have at least 3 of them on the court at all times. maybe it's already like this, i dont pay attention to rotations. picturing only 2 of them on the court at once is a trainwreck.
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The problem is Barry and Kam use up a lot of possessions that should go to dean because they aren't ball movers. I would be interested to see if that improves under Cartier with 3 guards out there but I think part of the reason that Barry has been more successful is because of the absence of Kam. He is a good player and we should absolutely try to get him back on the floor as soon as he is able..
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Dean needs about half of his looks to be isos and can take 10 seconds to set up between clearing the space entering the ball and giving dean time to work, it is harder to find time and possessions with another high usage guy who is going to be a pretty high volume shooter.
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Damn I love HBIQ takes from KK, I miss that a lot.
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Dean needs about half of his looks to be isos and can take 10 seconds to set up between clearing the space entering the ball and giving dean time to work, it is harder to find time and possessions with another high usage guy who is going to be a pretty high volume shooter.
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Good stuff KK.
Dean is shooting more now with Kam out. 2nd behind Barry in shot%.
Big 12 stats.
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Actually, Brown is running more of the point guard duties than Diarra. We certainly could have used Kam in the first half agaist OU and Diarra did good in the second half. Having Kam back and a Diarra that has played big minutes and produced will make us a better team.
One poistive is Brown having a heart to heart with Claws after Kams injury and plus Deans own resolve to step it up has made us a better team. Now opponents have to game plan Claws and that will open up others. Dean Wades 7 assists again OU as a case in point. Claws pitching back out to a wide open Sneed. (who is starting to shoot more consistently)
Now mix Stokes back in and it adds another scorer who is getting more open shots than before.
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Without Kam, we are really just playing 2 combo guards, which I'm fine with. Kam wasn't really a PG either, but he's developed into a decent distibutor. The real threat with Diarra is that he can get to the rim as well as Brown and finish. Kam is a jump shooter and isn't nearly as good attacking the rim. That adds a different dynamic when you guard us. The other aspect is Diarra is a bigger, more physical guard than Kam, which helps on defense. Of course, its highly unlikely Diarra continues this shooting pace either, he's been crazy good so far in Big 12 play.
Regardless, all 3 need to play when Kam is healthy and I'd like to see all 3 on the floor together 15-20 minutes per game.
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Dean needs about half of his looks to be isos and can take 10 seconds to set up between clearing the space entering the ball and giving dean time to work, it is harder to find time and possessions with another high usage guy who is going to be a pretty high volume shooter.
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Good stuff KK.
Dean is shooting more now with Kam out. 2nd behind Barry in shot%.
Big 12 stats.
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I agree with kk on Dean needing isos. As far as Dean's usage as it relates to Cartier, I think although his shots are up now, it stands to reason that as Cartier gets more comfortable in his role that would likely mean that Dean's usage would decrease again. Cartier is a freshman with what, three started starts, pretty safe to assume he's going to shoot more unless oscar intervenes.
One thing I've noticed about Dean since he's become more aggressive is that he's also become more cognizant of the matchup he has and his willingness to exploit guards down low or pulling bigs out. He's really fun to watch now that he's turned the corner in his aggression.
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i get why people don't like kam: he's a chucker, not a classic pg, and is good for one inexplicably dumb play per game.
but, having rewatched the OU game: kam would be getting killed on here if he had the game diarra had last night...couple late layups don't change that...
I love Kam, he isn't scared of anything, and is really fun to watch. I really hope we don't spend the next year having 236,484,037 Kam vs. Cartier arguments.
at least there would be something worth talking about rather than oscar sucks
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Dean was terrible passing out of doubles earlier this year, but he amazed me against OU. Teams are absolutely going to continue to find ways to double off and with Kam we will have all 5 positions that can legit hurt you with a 3 if you double off which would be fun to watch.
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This is the most fun I've had watching K-State hoops since that 10 team. For real.
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This is the most fun I've had watching K-State hoops since that 10 team. For real.
For real?
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This is the most fun I've had watching K-State hoops since that 10 team. For real.
For real?
I suppose I'd probably put 11 ahead because it was Pullen's final season and 13 was fun winning the league.
But I do really enjoy watching this team play, but some of that is recency bias.
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If we play like we played against ASU, KU, OU then yes, but we have had some truly awful offense this year too.
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If we play like we played against ASU, KU, OU then yes, but we have had some truly awful offense this year too.
True. I definitely wouldn't have put this team on any "most fun" list after the Tulsa game.
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Like seriously just send Korn out on the road the rest of the damn year to get a quality freshman big, it's criminal that next year with the talent we have will be so weak at the 5.
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Just go small. Problem solved. No 5.
yeah, they should both play. It's just that Cartier needs to run point. This offense is completely different with him out front. Kam is a shooting guard, pure and simple.
This should be tryed sometime! Would be fun to see
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does anyone think wade could go pro after this season?
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does anyone think wade could go pro after this season?
Yes
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Everyone is falling in love with Diarra. Something fun to watch.
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Everyone is falling in love with Diarra. Something fun to watch.
He still turns the ball over too much for me to love him. Though, experience will fix his TO issues.
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Everyone is falling in love with Diarra. Something fun to watch.
He still turns the ball over too much for me to love him. Though, experience will fix his TO issues.
The last 2 games there has been a point in the second half when we started to go into our funk that let's the other team to have a run to get the game close or to take the lead. Usually the funk was started by a couple of Stoke misses from Lincoln. Diarra is a ruthless killer. When these funky moments happen he does his razzle-dazzle drives and gets a point, kind of like Jake. We have not had a guard since Foster willing to go to the rim. Now Flush doing it even better ..... getting a stir in the gruns!!!!!
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Everyone is falling in love with Diarra. Something fun to watch.
He still turns the ball over too much for me to love him. Though, experience will fix his TO issues.
The last 2 games there has been a point in the second half when we started to go into our funk that let's the other team to have a run to get the game close or to take the lead. Usually the funk was started by a couple of Stoke misses from Lincoln. Diarra is a ruthless killer. When these funky moments happen he does his razzle-dazzle drives and gets a point, kind of like Jake. We have not had a guard since Foster willing to go to the rim. Now Flush doing it even better ..... getting a stir in the gruns!!!!!
Barry has shown a willingness to drive and finish.
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Just to pump the breaks a little. Diarras turnovers let OU back in the in the game in the first half. Dean Wades offense and Browns offense let us pull away in the second half. Diarra had a good second half partly due to OU deciding defense was not fun to play. Diarra hitting 60% from three is great but won't continue. However, the good thing is that he has shown he is a good shot.
Diarra was not able to bring the ball up the court against WVU press and had to turn that job over to Brown when Stokes was not in the line up.
Diarra is getting better and getting more experience so may be ready for the next WVU game. If Diarra keeps it up we will have a very good guard rotation in the last third of the Big 12 season including some times when we can put all three on the floor.
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Just to pump the breaks a little. Diarras turnovers let OU back in the in the game in the first half. Dean Wades offense and Browns offense let us pull away in the second half. Diarra had a good second half partly due to OU deciding defense was not fun to play. Diarra hitting 60% from three is great but won't continue. However, the good thing is that he has shown he is a good shot.
Diarra was not able to bring the ball up the court against WVU press and had to turn that job over to Brown when Stokes was not in the line up.
Diarra is getting better and getting more experience so may be ready for the next WVU game. If Diarra keeps it up we will have a very good guard rotation in the last third of the Big 12 season including some times when we can put all three on the floor.
They didnt help but having stockard and patrick on the floor at the same time was a nightmare and also was big in the comeback OU tried to mount
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oscar has been pretty good at having some wtf lineups on the court his entire tenure, so i'll give him that.
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Everyone is falling in love with Diarra. Something fun to watch.
He still turns the ball over too much for me to love him. Though, experience will fix his TO issues.
Jevon Thomas, but more athletic
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Everyone is falling in love with Diarra. Something fun to watch.
He still turns the ball over too much for me to love him. Though, experience will fix his TO issues.
Jevon Thomas, but more athletic
if you completely disregard shooting and size