Post by: MakeItRain on January 16, 2018, 08:45:37 PM
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Post by: Kat Kid on January 16, 2018, 10:55:30 PM
I made a point to watch him in the second half because the game was such a blow out, but he is the worst big we've had in the three decades I've watched K-State basketball. He has no instincts and might be afraid. He's never in the right position to rebound and when he is, by just sheer happenstance, he gets beat to the ball every single time.
There was a possession where he lost his man 3 times in the paint, fouled him and the OU guy got called for a travel. He fouls on box outs a lot. He is terrible.
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Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2018, 11:17:32 PM
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Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2018, 11:20:19 PM
george hill and hamilton strickland were both far worse
omg. johnny williams says hello
Post by: Steffy08 on January 16, 2018, 11:28:37 PM
I made a point to watch him in the second half because the game was such a blow out, but he is the worst big we've had in the three decades I've watched K-State basketball. He has no instincts and might be afraid. He's never in the right position to rebound and when he is, by just sheer happenstance, he gets beat to the ball every single time.
Bold statement. You might be right. It could be, though, that we currently have two that are actually worse than Mawhateverhisnameis.
Post by: dal9 on January 16, 2018, 11:56:36 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2018, 01:08:52 AM
I don't remember those guys but I can't imagine they were worse if they played comparable minutesgeorge hill and hamilton strickland were both far worse
omg. johnny williams says hello
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 17, 2018, 07:26:35 AM
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Post by: kso_FAN on January 17, 2018, 08:13:30 AM
Mawien was a big big part of the defense we played last night. His hedges on ball screens and ability to get back to the middle to keep Young from dropping dunks off to their big men was a big key. Every other team that has played OU has had a stream of dunks from the big men off Young passes. Mawien was part of the overall team defense that stopped that.
He was. At least last night he wasn't a huge liability. He and Stockard at least combined to give us a serviceable 5 for one game. Who know Young would struggle that badly with a hard hedge/double on ball screens.
Post by: Skipper44 on January 17, 2018, 09:28:48 AM
hill was pretty terrible but Ham could get on a roll and score in the paint on occasion. Williams was the classic looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane but he at least looked cooler as hell at football games in rooting on the DoD 1.0 cats in a t-shirt with the sleeves ripped off.I don't remember those guys but I can't imagine they were worse if they played comparable minutesgeorge hill and hamilton strickland were both far worse
omg. johnny williams says hello
Joe Leonard is the only big that was close to this bad but he could at least give a hard foul
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2018, 09:31:39 AM
george hill and hamilton strickland were both far worse
omg. johnny williams says hello
I don't know any of these people, George Hill is the only name I've even heard.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2018, 09:40:21 AM
MIR, do you agree now that Maurice would have been a 10x better option?
He's better than MM but he still isn't any good, Mawein is the only one of the two playing D1 college basketball.
Mawien was a big big part of the defense we played last night. His hedges on ball screens and ability to get back to the middle to keep Young from dropping dunks off to their big men was a big key. Every other team that has played OU has had a stream of dunks from the big men off Young passes. Mawien was part of the overall team defense that stopped that.
I can't disagree with that assessment at all, it's an astute observation but the dude can't stay on the floor, he played 18 minutes. I think Stockard is much better, he'll improve with more playing time, he had 17 minutes last night.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 17, 2018, 09:56:48 AM
MIR, do you agree now that Maurice would have been a 10x better option?
He's better than MM but he still isn't any good, Mawein is the only one of the two playing D1 college basketball.Mawien was a big big part of the defense we played last night. His hedges on ball screens and ability to get back to the middle to keep Young from dropping dunks off to their big men was a big key. Every other team that has played OU has had a stream of dunks from the big men off Young passes. Mawien was part of the overall team defense that stopped that.
I can't disagree with that assessment at all, it's an astute observation but the dude can't stay on the floor, he played 18 minutes. I think Stockard is much better, he'll improve with more playing time, he had 17 minutes last night.
We need the Stockard/Mawien two headed monster to give us about 8 and 8 every night. Last night was their best game in Big 12 play by far.
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Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2018, 10:36:10 AM
We’d be a top 15 team with pervis pasco
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Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2018, 11:24:16 AM
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2018, 11:33:05 AM
people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
It's amazing how .7 seconds completely changed the perception of a basketball player. I think 98% of people who were actual K-State basketball fans back then know Pervis was a solid player. The problem there aren't very many of us who watched K-State basketball during that time. I will say that his numbers aren't nearly as good as I remembered them to be, he averaged 11 & 8 over 30 mpg.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 17, 2018, 12:16:22 PM
people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
It's amazing how .7 seconds completely changed the perception of a basketball player. I think 98% of people who were actual K-State basketball fans back then know Pervis was a solid player. The problem there aren't very many of us who watched K-State basketball during that time. I will say that his numbers aren't nearly as good as I remembered them to be, he averaged 11 & 8 over 30 mpg.
4th best rebounder and 5th best for blocks since 2002. (per 100)
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2018, 12:37:53 PM
people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
It's amazing how .7 seconds completely changed the perception of a basketball player. I think 98% of people who were actual K-State basketball fans back then know Pervis was a solid player. The problem there aren't very many of us who watched K-State basketball during that time. I will say that his numbers aren't nearly as good as I remembered them to be, he averaged 11 & 8 over 30 mpg.
I was going to say wooly played really slow (which he did) but I looked it up and somehow oscar's team this year plays slower than that Wooly team.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 17, 2018, 12:45:49 PM
people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
It's amazing how .7 seconds completely changed the perception of a basketball player. I think 98% of people who were actual K-State basketball fans back then know Pervis was a solid player. The problem there aren't very many of us who watched K-State basketball during that time. I will say that his numbers aren't nearly as good as I remembered them to be, he averaged 11 & 8 over 30 mpg.
I was going to say wooly played really slow (which he did) but I looked it up and somehow oscar's team this year plays slower than that Wooly team.
The thing is we play slowly more because of our defense than our offense.
Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2018, 12:46:31 PM
Post by: PIPE on January 17, 2018, 01:37:19 PM
ball and then a clutch 3 to win the game, in my book........is not good at basketball :sdeek: :buh-bye:
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2018, 01:43:56 PM
who acts like pervis wasn't good? this happening in some back alleyways in the outskirts of oakland or something?
IMO the original pasco mention ITT implied he wasn't very good. As in "all we need is Pervis Pasco" as if he was a very pedestrian big for KSU.
Post by: gokatgo on January 17, 2018, 01:46:15 PM
george hill and hamilton strickland were both far worse
I can’t get over the fact that George Hill’s genes produced a talented athlete.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 17, 2018, 02:04:43 PM
Post by: Cire on January 17, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
I’m implying that we are a solid big 12 big away from being a top 15 team.
Could have said DJamer I guess but I think a pasco type would help more.
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Post by: I_have_purplewood on January 17, 2018, 02:24:13 PM
I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
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Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2018, 02:31:19 PM
I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
I'm not convinced Mawien is any better than Canby at all, but Canby also never never played more than 15% of minutes. Mawien plays 43% of minutes, which is more than Justin Williams played. (Williams was pretty decent IIRC!)
The only player I can think of who played as much as Mawien and was as bad as him was maybe Richie Terry. But even then I'm pretty sure Mawien is worse.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 17, 2018, 02:48:08 PM
I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
I'm not convinced Mawien is any better than Canby at all, but Canby also never never played more than 15% of minutes. Mawien plays 43% of minutes, which is more than Justin Williams played. (Williams was pretty decent IIRC!)
The only player I can think of who played as much as Mawien and was as bad as him was maybe Richie Terry. But even then I'm pretty sure Mawien is worse.
Perhaps. I'm probably biased because Mawien's per 100s, etc. for the season aren't that bad.
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Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2018, 02:59:32 PM
people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
It's amazing how .7 seconds completely changed the perception of a basketball player. I think 98% of people who were actual K-State basketball fans back then know Pervis was a solid player. The problem there aren't very many of us who watched K-State basketball during that time. I will say that his numbers aren't nearly as good as I remembered them to be, he averaged 11 & 8 over 30 mpg.
4th best rebounder and 5th best for blocks since 2002. (per 100)
I remember the tempo under Wooly being slow but it must have been glacial if 8 RPG rates as 4th best tempo free the last 26 years
Post by: kso_FAN on January 17, 2018, 03:01:58 PM
people like to act like Pervis Pasco wasn't a really good player. And it's a shame.
Also I don't care how Mawien played defense last night he is garbage. IMO credit goes to the guards and a good plan of attack from oscar.
Also nothing infuriates me more than Wade looking to feed it to Stockard or Mawien in the post and if they get it they try to score. Just awful.
It's amazing how .7 seconds completely changed the perception of a basketball player. I think 98% of people who were actual K-State basketball fans back then know Pervis was a solid player. The problem there aren't very many of us who watched K-State basketball during that time. I will say that his numbers aren't nearly as good as I remembered them to be, he averaged 11 & 8 over 30 mpg.
4th best rebounder and 5th best for blocks since 2002. (per 100)
I remember the tempo under Wooly being slow but it must have been glacial if 8 RPG rates as 4th best tempo free the last 26 years
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Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2018, 03:29:40 PM
who acts like pervis wasn't good? this happening in some back alleyways in the outskirts of oakland or something?
IMO the original pasco mention ITT implied he wasn't very good. As in "all we need is Pervis Pasco" as if he was a very pedestrian big for KSU.
no, that's not what he meant
Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2018, 03:30:39 PM
I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
hill was terrible but he got minutes
ham and johnnie williams were so bad they couldn't even sniff the floor
much worse than anything we have in our program today
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2018, 03:32:35 PM
You're probably rightwho acts like pervis wasn't good? this happening in some back alleyways in the outskirts of oakland or something?
IMO the original pasco mention ITT implied he wasn't very good. As in "all we need is Pervis Pasco" as if he was a very pedestrian big for KSU.
no, that's not what he meant
Post by: Skipper44 on January 17, 2018, 04:06:38 PM
Decent with corn rows, elite with the afroI will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
I'm not convinced Mawien is any better than Canby at all, but Canby also never never played more than 15% of minutes. Mawien plays 43% of minutes, which is more than Justin Williams played. (Williams was pretty decent IIRC!)
The only player I can think of who played as much as Mawien and was as bad as him was maybe Richie Terry. But even then I'm pretty sure Mawien is worse.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 17, 2018, 04:20:40 PM
I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
hill was terrible but he got minutes
ham and johnnie williams were so bad they couldn't even sniff the floor
much worse than anything we have in our program today
I can't believe we got this far with those three mentioned and nobody brought up dax jones.
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Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2018, 05:31:28 PM
omg. our poster dax has completely erased the player dax from my mindI will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
hill was terrible but he got minutes
ham and johnnie williams were so bad they couldn't even sniff the floor
much worse than anything we have in our program today
I can't believe we got this far with those three mentioned and nobody brought up dax jones.
Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2018, 09:03:36 PM
Jack Karapetyan played 3.3 minutes in a cats uniform and is worse than anyone you can type into this message board
I gave him a pretty good send off video tho
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2018, 09:27:48 PM
I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
hill was terrible but he got minutes
ham and johnnie williams were so bad they couldn't even sniff the floor
much worse than anything we have in our program today
I can't believe we got this far with those three mentioned and nobody brought up dax jones.
I hate the crap out of Dax Jones
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Post by: kso_FAN on January 18, 2018, 01:02:22 PM
I thought Gerald Eaker was going to be good. I was wrong.
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I'm pretty sure that I read an article about how Manny Dies was the worst ever
Just wanted to give this post some love.
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Post by: michigancat on January 20, 2018, 05:27:37 PM
:lol:
Post by: wetwillie on January 20, 2018, 05:28:16 PM
Mantool rises!
Never stop
Post by: cfbandyman on January 20, 2018, 05:31:05 PM
lolol
I mean, it's not like he has a high bar or anything.
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Post by: MakeItRain on January 20, 2018, 05:38:37 PM
only watched the second half and was blown away that he had 14 after an almost-missed wide-open layup. And his last shot that went in was blocked
:lol:
Good game, he is still way too soft inside though. He can't jump at all, his rebounds are flat footed.
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:party:
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 20, 2018, 10:08:58 PM
22 2pt shots & 6 FTAs in Big12 games. He's got 33 points here(14FG 5FT). 25 Possessions let's say. Thats the type of "added bonus" for the STUDs that is nice as long as he is not having an atrocious game on Defensive end.
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Post by: dal9 on January 20, 2018, 10:52:53 PM
I’m not a huge fan.
to find a "huge fan" of mawein, you'd probably have to look to his immediate family...(possibly only ma dukes)
Post by: cat97 on January 21, 2018, 10:21:51 AM
I'm a little slow so maybe I'm just being trolled.
Post by: Cire on January 21, 2018, 11:47:59 AM
super happy
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Post by: renocat on January 21, 2018, 01:52:03 PM
I seriouly don't know what you guys watch during a game. Mawien has just played two great defensive games. His hedge defense on Young is what helped us shut him down. Last night he was a big key (along with help from Claws) in cutting down the screen and roll game between Robinson and Broz. Two blocks last night. 18 points on 8 for 11 from the field. Made two big free throws in crunch time. 5 rebounds just like TCUs big man Broz.The article in KC Star online about Mawien is good.
I'm a little slow so maybe I'm just being trolled.
"After that one, Weber said Mawien had to learn how to play tougher if he wanted to stay in the rotation, let alone the starting lineup.
But something has changed since then. Mawien was genuinely good against the Horned Frogs, erupting for a career-high 18 points and five rebounds.
“I just told him that it’s not a welfare,” Weber said. “You have got to produce to get minutes. He has realized that. He has gained confidence.”
I also liked the part where it said that he has learned where to be on offense to get good shots. They found him yesterday. I think maybe Korn is having an effect. Friends have always told me that young bigs take a while to blossom. We will need a strong game from Mawien against that big Honker from Baylor.
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Post by: The Big Train on January 22, 2018, 08:34:32 PM
I made a point to watch him in the second half because the game was such a blow out, but he is the worst big we've had in the three decades I've watched K-State basketball. He has no instincts and might be afraid. He's never in the right position to rebound and when he is, by just sheer happenstance, he gets beat to the ball every single time.
:lol:
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 22, 2018, 08:35:37 PM
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Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 22, 2018, 09:00:31 PM
Do you guys have working eyes? Soft layups, that up and under was horse crap, he shouldn't be doing that at 6'9", and banking in threes. cat97 is right, he's a plus defender, when he can stay on the floor. Those shots he made in the first half pissed me off even more because he might be the softest big man I've ever seen.It's working MIR. Keep going!
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Lou Colon < MawienAbdul Herrera < Mawien
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Post by: Powercat Posse on January 22, 2018, 10:47:16 PM
He got his 2nd foul with us up 29-15. Bears were at 0.71 PPP prior to that foul. They got 25 pts in final 14 Poss of 1st half with him on bench. Stockard/Love/Sallah were just laughable bad and our small lineup struggled a bit on D late in the half
Post by: renocat on January 22, 2018, 10:49:49 PM
Mantool defending, yeah!!
Mantool fouling and doing a boner, bad.
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Post by: MakeItRain on January 23, 2018, 06:49:08 PM
Remember how all of you idiots forgot about abdul herrera when trying to find worse ksu 5s?
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I don't know if he counts, didn't he play less than 10 games before he quit? I'm actually quite surprised he survived the off season conditioning, I say that as someone who didn't.
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Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 23, 2018, 11:23:07 PM
he averaged 5 and 5 off the bench in 08-09 with about 18 minutes a game, he got run so I'm guessing his defense was crap but I don't think he belongs in the same conversation as Jack Krap or the others
He went on to have a pretty decent career at USF too.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 23, 2018, 11:30:44 PM
he averaged 5 and 5 off the bench in 08-09 with about 18 minutes a game, he got run so I'm guessing his defense was crap but I don't think he belongs in the same conversation as Jack Krap or the others
oscar could go on to build K-State into Tom Izzo's Michigan State and I'll never forgive him for Jack K. and Michael Orris, what in the world was he thinking?
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Michael Orris Career Stats http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/62711/michael-orris (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/62711/michael-orris)
Looks like both graduated with a degree so that's good.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2018, 07:26:25 AM
Ron Anderson was an elite offensive rebounder. Just not very athletic, I remember questioning if he could dunk or not
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He was a very good rebounder period. I remember being somewhat upset when he left.
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 07, 2018, 09:34:33 PM
He hit a big shot, again a layup created by Barry, in the second half then had it immediately negated when he let another man take the ball out of his hands then dunk on him with no resistance.
Did any of you notice when the caught the ball on the three point line in the last minute and literally everyone on the bench started screaming? That was hilarious and so perfect for Mawein.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2018, 09:36:23 PM
_FAN, come on dude, his coach benched him less than two minutes in because he was clearly, clearly afraid of Bamba. That happened. After he got benched and had his playing time taken by James freaking Love he figured out that he should probably should convert the layups his guards were providing for him. I'm not going to act like he's Jeremiah Massey because he managed to do in the second half what James Love did in the first after his ass got benched.
He hit a big shot, again a layup created by Barry, in the second half then had it immediately negated when he let another man take the ball out of his hands then dunk on him with no resistance.
Did any of you notice when the caught the ball on the three point line in the last minute and literally everyone on the bench started screaming? That was hilarious and so perfect for Mawein.
I never said anything about him being a great player. But he contributed tonight and was part of the reason we won the game. So did Love.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 07, 2018, 09:54:56 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 07, 2018, 10:09:47 PM
The good team defender thing is a big deal, it really is, enough to merit his minutes. I have to remember that when he acts like he is a 5'10" guard with the ball in his hands, or when he commits a stupid foul, or when he doesn't move when trying to get a defensive board. I've given up on him o boarding his three THREE! tonight gives him 8 total in the 11 games we've played since the start of conference play, counting Georgia.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 07, 2018, 10:14:44 PM
His game log is hilarious
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2018, 10:24:55 PM
I will compliment him on one thing and one thing only because he does it very well. He is a not good, but great, team defender. One-on-one, not so much, but he's great doing everything else. He's always in perfect help position, he plays screen and roll/pop perfectly, and tonight when we went to the double of Bamba he did exactly the right thing with his footwork to allow the double to happen, then not foul. You have to shade high a little bit before the double comes then move to shade low to allow the second defender to maximize their coverage and he does that better than any big I've ever seen.
The good team defender thing is a big deal, it really is, enough to merit his minutes. I have to remember that when he acts like he is a 5'10" guard with the ball in his hands, or when he commits a stupid foul, or when he doesn't move when trying to get a defensive board. I've given up on him o boarding his three THREE! tonight gives him 8 total in the 11 games we've played since the start of conference play, counting Georgia.
:thumbs: :cheers:
Post by: I_have_purplewood on February 07, 2018, 10:27:53 PM
Mawein has 29 offensive rebounds, 49 defensive rebounds, and 69 fouls in 454 minutes this season. :ROFL:
His game log is hilarious
And what is Stockard's? Love had a decent game if you can call it that but he and Stockard aren't close to what Mailwein can bring to the table.
Post by: renocat on February 07, 2018, 10:38:30 PM
Darn, 16 points from the Big Meats, and against Mamba the Manimal. Love points, sexy. I don't are if they are getting it done ugly as long as it is like tonight.Mawein has 29 offensive rebounds, 49 defensive rebounds, and 69 fouls in 454 minutes this season. :ROFL:
His game log is hilarious
And what is Stockard's? Love had a decent game if you can call it that but he and Stockard aren't close to what Mailwein can bring to the table.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 07, 2018, 10:59:34 PM
Mawein has 29 offensive rebounds, 49 defensive rebounds, and 69 fouls in 454 minutes this season. :ROFL:
His game log is hilarious
And what is Stockard's? Love had a decent game if you can call it that but he and Stockard aren't close to what Mailwein can bring to the table.
They are also horrific, this isn't an endorsement for anyone else, none of the bigs are good enough although James Love did have a very good game, you can absolutely call it that. If you could combine the best of Mawein and the best of Love you would then have a good rotational big.
Post by: cat97 on February 07, 2018, 11:43:09 PM
Mawien played 18 minutes in the second half with 8 points on 4 for 7 with 1 steal and 3 offensive rebounds and no turnovers.
Post by: pvegs on February 08, 2018, 08:13:04 AM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on February 08, 2018, 08:26:50 AM
Post by: michigancat on February 08, 2018, 08:44:16 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2018, 09:14:26 AM
I still say he's the worst player in my lifetime that's played as many minutes as he has.
MM fact of the day is a double fact:
Last night was only the 11th time this season, 24 games, MM had more rebounds than fouls. Last night he managed to have rebounds than fouls despite getting no defensive rebounds in 26 minutes. 10th time he's had either 0 or 1 defensive rebounds.
Post by: sys on February 08, 2018, 09:16:40 AM
Post by: michigancat on February 08, 2018, 09:20:32 AM
bamba is a pretty scary dude. if you're a post player with no moves, getting yourself and/or the ball away from him is a smart move.
for sure. I only watched a tiny bit of the game, but I did see Mawien get an offensive rebound without Bamba in the game. He promptly threw up a layup that failed to draw iron.
:lol:
Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2018, 09:27:16 AM
bamba is a pretty scary dude. if you're a post player with no moves, getting yourself and/or the ball away from him is a smart move.
James Love didn't think so. Also loved The Flush going right into Bamba's chest late in the game.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2018, 09:28:46 AM
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on February 08, 2018, 09:32:01 AM
I still say he's the worst player in my lifetime that's played as many minutes as he has.
MM fact of the day is a double fact:
Last night was only the 11th time this season, 24 games, MM had more rebounds than fouls. Last night he managed to have rebounds than fouls despite getting no defensive rebounds in 26 minutes. 10th time he's had either 0 or 1 defensive rebounds.
If you want a good laugh, just watch MM try to get position to rebound. A few games ago he was in good position and an opposing player literally leaned on him and MM took 2 big steps forward and was out of bounds. He has zero idea how to setup a base, get big, get wide, hold your ground and attack the ball. It's like he's never been coached how to rebound. He just get's close to the basket and waits..it takes virtually no effort to muscle him completely out of position.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 08, 2018, 09:36:26 AM
bamba is a pretty scary dude. if you're a post player with no moves, getting yourself and/or the ball away from him is a smart move.
James Love didn't think so. Also loved The Flush going right into Bamba's chest late in the game.
He used the rim (well) to protect him from getting blocked on at least 2 of those lay ups.
I love Love's size. Obviously not as agile as we want him right now after the surgeries. Do you think if he lost 20-25 lbs would that help next year?
I think just being healthy long enough to trust is foot will help, but he's probably overweight simply because he's been injured so often.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2018, 09:40:20 AM
Post by: PIPE on February 08, 2018, 09:46:35 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 08, 2018, 10:31:45 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2018, 10:37:57 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2018, 10:50:30 AM
I love Love's size. Obviously not as agile as we want him right now after the surgeries. Do you think if he lost 20-25 lbs would that help next year?
If he can stay healthy this off season I expect him to take the biggest leap. Yeah he's overweight but like _FAN said I'm sure it's attributable to his health issues. He hasn't had off season conditioning yet.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2018, 10:58:12 AM
Post by: stunted on February 08, 2018, 02:25:35 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 08, 2018, 02:44:50 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 08, 2018, 02:46:37 PM
mawein's not thaaat terrible, and he's pretty much a freshman. but definitely shouldnt be a starter on a top 4 big 12 team
lol he's also pretty much a junior
Post by: wetwillie on February 08, 2018, 02:49:33 PM
Post by: 8manpick on February 08, 2018, 02:56:26 PM
Mawien had a really nice game tonight. Great defense in the second half. Bamba scored 3 points on 1 for 5 with three turnovers in the second half. Mawien also did a great job hedging on screens without letting them drop it to Bamba.I'm pretty sure you must be related to him
Mawien played 18 minutes in the second half with 8 points on 4 for 7 with 1 steal and 3 offensive rebounds and no turnovers.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2018, 03:04:33 PM
It's going to be fun watching Mawein grow into a crowd favorite, just like Lou Colon did.
LOL good luck with that. Also LuCo was a fan favorite because he was tough Frank Martin basketball and played his ass off. A center who averages 3 rebounds and 4 fouls a game while avoiding contact will never be anyone's favorite
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 08, 2018, 03:08:17 PM
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Post by: hatingfrancisco on February 08, 2018, 03:10:01 PM
Mawein spent most of the night looking like he was playing in roller skates.
I mean seriously go watch the tape. He was literally out there doing this:
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 08, 2018, 03:25:28 PM
I love Makol. He is becoming a dude that we can somewhat count on.
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Post by: BMWCat on February 09, 2018, 02:45:18 PM
Colon's PER 40
Fouls: 9.5
Rebounds: 7.9
Points: 7.7
Blocks: 1.8
TO's: 3.3
FT%: 38%
FG%: 35%
Mawien's PER 40
Fouls: 6.3
Rebounds: 6.9
Points: 13.1
Blocks: 2.1
TO's: 1.6
FT%: 70%
FG%: 65%
I don't get what the beef is with Mawien, he's actually got some good potential/athleticism compared to most of the big men we've rolled through here recently. Rebounding is the only area he is noticeably awful at, and I will agree with you there, we need more out of him on the boards.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 09, 2018, 02:47:16 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 09, 2018, 03:09:59 PM
Comparing just sophomore seasons Colon's per 40 average was noticeably worse that Mawien in most every statistical category, especially fouls.
Colon's PER 40
Fouls: 9.5
Rebounds: 7.9
Points: 7.7
Blocks: 1.8
TO's: 3.3
FT%: 38%
FG%: 35%
Mawien's PER 40
Fouls: 6.3
Rebounds: 6.9
Points: 13.1
Blocks: 2.1
TO's: 1.6
FT%: 70%
FG%: 65%
I don't get what the beef is with Mawien, he's actually got some good potential/athleticism compared to most of the big men we've rolled through here recently. Rebounding is the only area he is noticeably awful at, and I will agree with you there, we need more out of him on the boards.
No one has ever had an issue with Mawein's skill nor did anyone ever praise LuCo for his so I'm not really understanding the point of this. Those of us who have an issue with Mawein have an issue with his lack of toughness, rebounding, and man-to-man defending when he's not on the perimeter. He's a fifth guard on the floor with little to no benefit of actually having a fifth guard on the floor.
I'd love Mawein to be Adrian Diaz.
Post by: PIPE on February 09, 2018, 03:15:37 PM
As my son was growing up, he would lower our basketball goal down so he could try and dunk. Anytime he would miss a dunk, we would both say he looked like Colon. True story.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 09, 2018, 03:23:52 PM
Post by: 8manpick on February 09, 2018, 03:35:53 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 09, 2018, 03:48:36 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 10, 2018, 08:25:04 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 10, 2018, 08:33:46 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 10, 2018, 08:37:33 PM
if he pulls the trigger on another three i might drive to manhattan and smother him in his sleepwhat if he nails 3 3’s in a row
Post by: wetwillie on February 10, 2018, 08:43:05 PM
if he pulls the trigger on another three i might drive to manhattan and smother him in his sleepwhat if he nails 3 3’s in a row
he wont get the second one off before he goes to sleep for good
Post by: MakeItRain on February 10, 2018, 09:54:37 PM
I'll also take this chance to put his line up
2 points 2 rebounds 2 turnovers 2 fouls
I got promise that Love would get minutes after oscar went to him early, nope.
Post by: stunted on February 11, 2018, 04:12:42 AM
Post by: michigancat on February 17, 2018, 12:31:33 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 17, 2018, 12:44:58 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 17, 2018, 12:45:37 PM
I'm starting to legitimately hate him. I really don't want to but I can't ever recall such a combination of soft, lazy, and bad judgment. To hell with oscar for continuing to put him out there.Welcome to the club, friend
Post by: mocat on February 17, 2018, 12:45:39 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 17, 2018, 12:47:24 PM
I just started watching and he had a blockcrap maybe I've been wrong about him
Post by: Trim on February 17, 2018, 12:50:52 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 17, 2018, 12:56:41 PM
I just started watching and he had a block
Lucky you missed him turning the ball over because he tried to dribble when he caught the ball 6 feet from the rim, or tried and missed an up and under when he was face up to the rim on the block, or bricked a 19 foot jump shot, or gave a noticeable lack of effort on several rebounds.
Post by: mocat on February 17, 2018, 12:57:21 PM
Post by: sys on February 17, 2018, 12:59:30 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 17, 2018, 01:29:10 PM
Post by: The Big Train on February 17, 2018, 01:29:31 PM
- announcers
Post by: MakeItRain on February 17, 2018, 01:34:32 PM
Post by: The Big Train on February 17, 2018, 01:37:38 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 17, 2018, 01:41:20 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 17, 2018, 01:42:37 PM
This would be a top 15 team with an average big.
Post by: hatingfrancisco on February 17, 2018, 01:43:21 PM
MakeItRain? More like MakeItMaweinHoly crap!
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Post by: The Big Train on February 17, 2018, 01:43:56 PM
Post by: I_have_purplewood on February 17, 2018, 02:08:37 PM
MakeItRain? More like MakeItMawein
:lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)
Post by: kso_FAN on February 17, 2018, 03:34:07 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 17, 2018, 04:43:08 PM
Our bigs are something. Stockard misses a jumper, then on the other side gets lost on a screen and roll then gets dunked on, comes down and turns the ball over then comes out. Our guy Mawein comes out and immediately gets a rebound taken right out of his hands again and gives up a basket. Dean stops the bleeding with a score but then Makol doesn't pressure his guy when he catches it to allow an easy basket, then doesn't even attempt to help in giving up another layup.
This would be a top 15 team with an average big.
I mean oscar has to land a 5th year grad transfer in the offseason right?
Post by: MakeItRain on February 17, 2018, 06:01:29 PM
Our bigs are something. Stockard misses a jumper, then on the other side gets lost on a screen and roll then gets dunked on, comes down and turns the ball over then comes out. Our guy Mawein comes out and immediately gets a rebound taken right out of his hands again and gives up a basket. Dean stops the bleeding with a score but then Makol doesn't pressure his guy when he catches it to allow an easy basket, then doesn't even attempt to help in giving up another layup.
This would be a top 15 team with an average big.
I mean oscar has to land a 5th year grad transfer in the offseason right?
He better. These guys won't improve to help the team match up with what the expectations will be.
Post by: mocat on February 21, 2018, 08:39:07 PM
Post by: The Big Train on February 21, 2018, 08:40:52 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 21, 2018, 08:46:23 PM
Post by: The Big Train on February 24, 2018, 05:07:38 PM
Post by: AppleJack on February 24, 2018, 06:19:11 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 24, 2018, 06:24:23 PM
Not GE'ing, he might be the worst player I've seen in 15 years. Maybe the lowest BB IQ I've ever seen. Absolutely clueless.That layup where he got fouled
Post by: mocat on February 24, 2018, 06:25:11 PM
Post by: Joker on February 24, 2018, 06:34:44 PM
Not GE'ing, he might be the worst player I've seen in 15 years. Maybe the lowest BB IQ I've ever seen. Absolutely clueless.That layup where he got fouled
Was he really fouled on the play? Looked kinda iffy.
Post by: michigancat on February 24, 2018, 06:39:53 PM
Yeah I don't think he was fouled but it was so far off target I think the refs assumed he must have been.Not GE'ing, he might be the worst player I've seen in 15 years. Maybe the lowest BB IQ I've ever seen. Absolutely clueless.That layup where he got fouled
Was he really fouled on the play? Looked kinda iffy.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 24, 2018, 06:43:33 PM
Post by: 8manpick on February 27, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 09:24:49 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 09:26:17 PM
The intern back in Bristol calling this game with the “Ive been doing this a long time and I’m just not sure what maiwen is doing out there”
I might need to watch this
Post by: AppleJack on February 27, 2018, 09:27:25 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 09:27:40 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on February 27, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 09:33:12 PM
The intern back in Bristol calling this game with the “Ive been doing this a long time and I’m just not sure what maiwen is doing out there”
I might need to watch this
Believe it or not they are actually on site for this one. The crew is Rich Hollanbeck and Tim Welsh. Welsh said it about him with 12:36 left in the half. If you want the full Mawein watch the entire period between the under 16 and under 12 in the second half, it's a masterclass in horrendous topped with a 5 offensive rebound possession in which our guy Mak let Vlad take the first one from him so he decided to sit the rest of them out.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on February 27, 2018, 09:34:35 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 27, 2018, 09:35:09 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 27, 2018, 09:36:05 PM
The intern back in Bristol calling this game with the “Ive been doing this a long time and I’m just not sure what maiwen is doing out there”
I might need to watch this
Believe it or not they are actually on site for this one. The crew is Rich Hollanbeck and Tim Welsh. Welsh said it about him with 12:36 left in the half. If you want the full Mawein watch the entire period between the under 16 and under 12 in the second half, it's a masterclass in horrendous topped with a 5 offensive rebound possession in which our guy Mak let Vlad take the first one from him so he decided to sit the rest of them out.
I thought Dino Gaudio was doing the game
Post by: The Big Train on February 27, 2018, 09:40:58 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 27, 2018, 09:42:30 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 27, 2018, 09:44:24 PM
What's a word for something that's greater than a liability?
point shaving
Post by: mocat on February 27, 2018, 09:46:18 PM
What's a word for something that's greater than a liability?
point shaving
image shaving :frown:
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 10:00:31 PM
Not Mak's best effort. Somehow the slavic on tcu is worse
Well Vlad eventually showed up
The intern back in Bristol calling this game with the “Ive been doing this a long time and I’m just not sure what maiwen is doing out there”
I might need to watch this
Believe it or not they are actually on site for this one. The crew is Rich Hollanbeck and Tim Welsh. Welsh said it about him with 12:36 left in the half. If you want the full Mawein watch the entire period between the under 16 and under 12 in the second half, it's a masterclass in horrendous topped with a 5 offensive rebound possession in which our guy Mak let Vlad take the first one from him so he decided to sit the rest of them out.
I thought Dino Gaudio was doing the game
Prolly so
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 27, 2018, 10:17:05 PM
Post by: KSURFC8 on February 27, 2018, 10:21:03 PM
To be fair, Stokes has been far worse than Mawein
Really? I missed Stokes' two travels, pitiful attempt at a dunk and a pass that was lazy beyond description and ended up costing us the game. Please show me what anyone on our team did worse than that (you can exclude the HC only because he didn't wear a uniform).
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 10:22:20 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 27, 2018, 10:23:12 PM
Post by: sys on February 27, 2018, 10:24:01 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 27, 2018, 10:24:29 PM
https://twitter.com/Cole_Manbeck/status/968698916039360512?s=19
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 27, 2018, 10:28:29 PM
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Post by: Trim on February 27, 2018, 10:32:56 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 10:38:07 PM
Mawein was our third most productive player by a wide margin tonight, pal
No argument from me. This fact is perhaps the saddest thing I've heard in a decade.
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 10:42:14 PM
Post by: sys on February 27, 2018, 10:44:08 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 27, 2018, 10:46:01 PM
I just don't see Mawein as a significant problem, and I think he'll learn to finish stronger. He's a sophomore.
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 10:48:24 PM
Mawein was working his ass off on defense in the post. He got lost on a couple ball screens like all dumbasd centers do. Stop being racist, michicat.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 27, 2018, 10:50:38 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 11:00:45 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 11:20:18 PM
His defensive possessions were:
-terrible position (way too high) on the post up, forcing a double from wade, before an alley oop right over him flat footed
- a possession where he didn't challenge the ball handler on a ball screen who passed to an open 3
-flat footed on another ball screen, badly beat to rebounding possession but he lowers his shoulder into the guy
-(terrible miss on offense)
-loafing to terrible flat-footed defense on the first ball screen, then terrible flat-footed defense on the second ball screen
:lol:
oh I kept it running and then he traveled on a post up
:lol:
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 11:21:51 PM
:lol:
Post by: MakeItRain on February 27, 2018, 11:23:17 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 11:24:16 PM
He walked again right after that
:lol:
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 11:25:14 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on February 28, 2018, 05:06:58 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on February 28, 2018, 08:27:52 AM
I didn't know he was egyptian.
He's Sudanese, grew up in Egypt because his dad was an ambassador.
Post by: Trim on February 28, 2018, 08:54:00 AM
I didn't know he was egyptian.
He's Sudanese, grew up in Egypt because his dad was an ambassador.
The announcers referred to him as egyptian at least twice during the game, and it seemed like something I’d have heard in the background during at least one of the prior 30-ish games.
Post by: DQ12 on February 28, 2018, 08:56:27 AM
Makol Mawein is our Bellcow.
Post by: wetwillie on February 28, 2018, 09:04:23 AM
Post by: PIPE on February 28, 2018, 09:39:43 AM
worse................
Way to recruit oscar
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2018, 09:51:24 AM
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2015/makol-mawien-32528
Post by: WildcatNation on February 28, 2018, 10:39:15 AM
He was a top 150 recruit, Pipe.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2015/makol-mawien-32528
That quite literally, means nothing
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2018, 10:42:03 AM
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on February 28, 2018, 11:00:55 AM
Really? Stokes pretty much gave us zero chance to win that game in the last 2 minutes. He had 1 travel and a carry to turn the ball over during the game. Did he even make a shot all night? Then drives to the rim to just drop the ball to no one. Stokes was pitiful.To be fair, Stokes has been far worse than Mawein
Really? I missed Stokes' two travels, pitiful attempt at a dunk and a pass that was lazy beyond description and ended up costing us the game. Please show me what anyone on our team did worse than that (you can exclude the HC only because he didn't wear a uniform).
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 28, 2018, 11:15:56 AM
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Post by: sunny_cat on February 28, 2018, 11:16:40 AM
Makol is a nice dude. Had him in my euro history class last semester
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that's pretty cool, greg
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2018, 11:17:04 AM
Makol is a nice dude. Had him in my euro history class last semesterI think this is his problem as a big. :frown:
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Post by: sunny_cat on February 28, 2018, 11:21:41 AM
He was so bad last night, but oscar couldn't take him out, cause, um, everyone else behind him is , um,
worse................
Way to recruit oscar
he recruits wings and guards well. just not bigs
Post by: michigancat on February 28, 2018, 11:21:48 AM
He was so bad last night, but oscar couldn't take him out, cause, um, everyone else behind him is , um,
worse................
Way to recruit oscar
I don't know, he might get fewer touches or be closely guarded in that scenario, therefore he wouldn't shoot. He's at his worst/most laughable offensively on like barely challenged layups.
Post by: PIPE on February 28, 2018, 11:38:49 AM
He was a top 150 recruit, Pipe.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2015/makol-mawien-32528
Well, that explains it. oscar should be recruiting top 100 players anyways.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 28, 2018, 11:55:57 AM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 28, 2018, 12:11:34 PM
Maiwen isn't good, but he was the least of our issues last night. He had 7 Rebounds and outscored Brodz.Wanna know who is worse than Mak? Kam is the worst rough ridin' player on this team and it isn't even close. :sdeek: :sdeek:
Post by: kso_FAN on February 28, 2018, 12:38:42 PM
Maiwen isn't good, but he was the least of our issues last night. He had 7 Rebounds and outscored Brodz.Wanna know who is worse than Mak? Kam is the worst rough ridin' player on this team and it isn't even close. :sdeek: :sdeek:
The order of bad (to good) for us...
1) Kam
2) Wainright
3) Diarra
4) Love/Stockard layups
5) Sneed
6) Mak
7) Barry
8) Wade
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 28, 2018, 12:44:52 PM
Post by: meow meow on February 28, 2018, 01:18:04 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 28, 2018, 02:36:07 PM
Maiwen isn't good, but he was the least of our issues last night. He had 7 Rebounds and outscored Brodz.Wanna know who is worse than Mak? Kam is the worst rough ridin' player on this team and it isn't even close. :sdeek: :sdeek:
The order of bad (to good) for us...
1) Kam
2) Wainright
3) Diarra
4) Love/Stockard layups
5) Sneed
6) Mak
7) Barry
8) Wade
:jerk:
Post by: kso_FAN on February 28, 2018, 02:43:11 PM
Maiwen isn't good, but he was the least of our issues last night. He had 7 Rebounds and outscored Brodz.Wanna know who is worse than Mak? Kam is the worst rough ridin' player on this team and it isn't even close. :sdeek: :sdeek:
The order of bad (to good) for us...
1) Kam
2) Wainright
3) Diarra
4) Love/Stockard layups
5) Sneed
6) Mak
7) Barry
8) Wade
:jerk:
FWIW, this was just for last night.
Post by: sys on February 28, 2018, 03:15:32 PM
Post by: Big Sam on February 28, 2018, 03:29:59 PM
We need to sit Kam's ass with the walk ons. Maybe he could really figure out what the hell is wrong sitting down on the other end of the bench.
I am to the point that every time Kam enters a game I want to kick the TV. I know he is going to massively screw the pooch again and again and drag the team down with bad shots, bad drives, bad passes, and just awful decisions. Since he has come back the ball is not moving as well among the team and we are going much longer stretches where Wade doesn't even touch the ball.
Mawein at least makes some hustle plays and shows flashes of potential to provide at least a little bit of hope for him in regard to the future. For Stokes, I just don't see any sort of hope.
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 28, 2018, 03:31:34 PM
Brodz had 14+ points 15 of his previous 16 games. He didn't have a FG (only 4 FTs) until 2:00 left. If Maiwen is this walking laughing stock on defense, how did Brodz not have a typical double digit game. I don't sit there and key on 1 player for long periods of time (that's just not me), but I guess Dixon and his Tcu teammates are just idiots for not getting him involved against a sucky player.
Post by: meow meow on February 28, 2018, 03:57:12 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 28, 2018, 04:06:11 PM
and just offense?
Yes, pretty much. Sneed kind of got abused by Williams at times.
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 03, 2018, 03:16:57 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 03, 2018, 03:53:32 PM
Still a tragically horrendous rebounder
Post by: DQ12 on March 03, 2018, 03:59:31 PM
Post by: The Whale on March 03, 2018, 04:47:13 PM
(https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/important-celebration-gif.gif?w=360)It's like he's shocked when it falls into his hands. He almost lost one or two with no competition for the ball.
Still a tragically horrendous rebounder
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Post by: michigancat on March 03, 2018, 04:55:03 PM
Post by: schreds21 on March 03, 2018, 07:07:06 PM
His transition alley oop infuriated me because IMO it shows he could be decent if he triedThis. There are (rare) times that he makes a move that, if you were someone who never watched the cats, would lead you to think , "hey this guy is pretty good!". Then two minutes later he throws up a 2 foot airball.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 03, 2018, 07:23:57 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 03, 2018, 08:48:13 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 03, 2018, 08:50:26 PM
Its weird he doesn't dunk it more, because he clearly has enough ability to do so.
I was more surprised that he was hustling than dunking
Post by: cat97 on March 03, 2018, 08:50:51 PM
Our sorry guys at the five spot, Mawien (sophomore) and Stockard (freshman) had 7 rebounds and 14 points in 34 total minutes. Baylors two seniors at the five (Acuil and Matson) had 17 points and 5 rebounds in 40 minutes. Acuil and Matson had been combining for an average of 25 points and 15 rebounds in 53 combined minutes in Big 12 play.
Post by: renocat on March 03, 2018, 09:15:52 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 03, 2018, 10:44:31 PM
Last 10 games, he's ave 3.7 Reb in 18 minutes. Whether it's pretty or not, that's not bad. Plus he has made 20 of last 24 FTs.
Fakest stat in the history of stats. Here are the rebound totals in each of those 10 games
1
5
4
3
2
0
8
1
2
7
He had his best game as a cat today, happy for him, happy for us; but as Judge Judy said, "don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining." You don't get to say he's averaging 3.7 RPG the last 10 as if it's a upward trajectory when he had 3 combined the previous 2 games. Even worse when that wasn't the worst two game stretch in the 10.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 03, 2018, 10:47:09 PM
Mawien was 5 for 7 today and made 4 free throws late in the second half when they were making a run. Not too many air balls.
Our sorry guys at the five spot, Mawien (sophomore) and Stockard (freshman) had 7 rebounds and 14 points in 34 total minutes. Baylors two seniors at the five (Acuil and Matson) had 17 points and 5 rebounds in 40 minutes. Acuil and Matson had been combining for an average of 25 points and 15 rebounds in 53 combined minutes in Big 12 play.
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The only good big in the bunch fainted 4 minutes into the game
Post by: cat97 on March 03, 2018, 11:09:11 PM
Matson scored 26 against Bamba when Baylor beat Texas a couple of weeks ago, 24 against TT in the next game and 23 against OU last week. Acuil still played 20 minutes tonight.Mawien was 5 for 7 today and made 4 free throws late in the second half when they were making a run. Not too many air balls.
Our sorry guys at the five spot, Mawien (sophomore) and Stockard (freshman) had 7 rebounds and 14 points in 34 total minutes. Baylors two seniors at the five (Acuil and Matson) had 17 points and 5 rebounds in 40 minutes. Acuil and Matson had been combining for an average of 25 points and 15 rebounds in 53 combined minutes in Big 12 play.
*
The only good big in the bunch fainted 4 minutes into the game
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2018, 08:07:44 AM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 08, 2018, 12:39:09 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2018, 12:43:28 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 08, 2018, 12:44:02 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2018, 01:22:43 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 08, 2018, 01:32:42 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2018, 02:02:41 PM
His physical tools are unreal but He’s a mental midget
Yeah, hopefully he'll continue to grow. His issues are all attributed to being lazy and soft, he plays with intent, he's good. His defense down the stretch was second to none and his 5th was shite.
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2018, 02:04:01 PM
Post by: Joker on March 08, 2018, 02:05:30 PM
Post by: DQ12 on March 08, 2018, 02:08:49 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 08, 2018, 02:11:22 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 08, 2018, 02:16:10 PM
Post by: cat97 on March 08, 2018, 02:29:35 PM
His biggest issue is staying out of foul trouble and he did that today. Needs a little stronger hands but getting better with that every game. Vlad was second team All Big 12 and Mawien whipped his ass today.His physical tools are unreal but He’s a mental midget
Yeah, hopefully he'll continue to grow. His issues are all attributed to being lazy and soft, he plays with intent, he's good. His defense down the stretch was second to none and his 5th was shite.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 08, 2018, 02:35:31 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on March 08, 2018, 02:42:13 PM
His physical tools are unreal but He’s a mental midgetit's like he is Serge Ibaka's little brother that only plays because it helps him get girls
Post by: Cire on March 08, 2018, 02:47:06 PM
Hoping he turns into a cross between JHR and DJamer
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 08, 2018, 02:53:31 PM
If oscar can figure out how to get Kam and Cartier to coexist (no indication he can), then Cats could be pretty good next year. Mawein should be leaps and bounds better next year, and he's already pretty serviceable.And stop dribbling in the post.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 08, 2018, 02:57:11 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 08, 2018, 03:04:05 PM
MakeItRain? More like MakeItMawein
stud
and i say his name wrong- as in, Mawein Marain anyway great game for him and the cats
Post by: kslim on March 08, 2018, 03:57:56 PM
Post by: renocat on March 08, 2018, 05:09:20 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 08, 2018, 05:11:25 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 08, 2018, 07:20:21 PM
I think the 9 rebounds and 4 of 4 for free throws is also impressive
He's 24 of last 28 on FTs. Believe he is our best rebounder (per 100 Poss), in the last 10 games
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 08, 2018, 07:28:39 PM
I just hope the egregiously incompetent assclowns they hire to referee these games don't foul them out
Post by: wetwillie on March 08, 2018, 07:43:31 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2018, 09:37:47 PM
I think the 9 rebounds and 4 of 4 for free throws is also impressive
Believe he is our best rebounder (per 100 Poss), in the last 10 games
I illustrated the flaw of this but you keep trotting it out there as if it's an accomplishment.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 08, 2018, 09:54:22 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2018, 10:52:41 PM
Best rebounder per 100 IS NOT GOOD!!!!
Best rebounder per 100 the last ten games when you have four games with 2 or less rebounds in that stretch is awful. All that indicates is that we are a completely embarrassing train wreck when it comes to rebounding the basketball.
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2018, 11:46:27 PM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 09, 2018, 08:43:12 AM
Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2018, 08:47:22 AM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 09, 2018, 09:01:25 AM
AKA the team oscar Weber would have if not for a miracle falling into his lap.
Weakest of the anti-oscar narratives so far. My goodness.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 09, 2018, 09:27:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1D9wWxd2w
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 09, 2018, 03:01:58 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2018, 06:49:53 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2018, 07:12:57 PM
Post by: sys on March 09, 2018, 07:15:36 PM
Post by: 8manpick on March 09, 2018, 07:17:44 PM
Post by: renocat on March 09, 2018, 07:18:24 PM
It's amazing how lazy and dumb he's been this year. He is really good on offense if he tries. He has gone from the worst player in KSU history to the pleasure with the most bafflingly terrible stretch in KSU history. I almost think this makes his prior performance more infuriating.Oscar's school of players self coaching themselves is not a good fit for Mawien. Probably getting good coaching from Kornboy.
Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2018, 07:18:52 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2018, 07:27:22 PM
i didn't realize how much dean and brown were limiting his game.So true
Post by: dal9 on March 09, 2018, 07:33:12 PM
i didn't realize how much dean and brown were limiting his game.rofl
Post by: 8manpick on March 09, 2018, 07:34:36 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1089.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi354%2Fjondoogin%2Ffloppin.gif&hash=fe620779d0a8d3f2711943dd3389b651b990ab88)
Post by: IPA4Me on March 09, 2018, 07:35:43 PM
Post by: dal9 on March 09, 2018, 07:57:53 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 09, 2018, 08:00:57 PM
Post by: 8manpick on March 09, 2018, 08:01:41 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2018, 08:07:15 PM
LOL @ the Mak naysayers
if we play another 4 guard team with a mitch lightfoot type center we will be shitting in high cotton
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 09, 2018, 08:08:26 PM
Post by: BackPayne on March 09, 2018, 08:11:46 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2018, 08:15:28 PM
Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crowI'm rough ridin' here and think he has played the worst basketball relative to his ability that I've ever seen in my life. The fact that he's looked so terrible all year is outrageous.
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 09, 2018, 08:17:24 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 09, 2018, 08:19:42 PM
Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crowI'm rough ridin' here and think he has played the worst basketball relative to his ability that I've ever seen in my life. The fact that he's looked so terrible all year is outrageous.
YOU WILL APOLOGIZE OR I WILL SPANK YOUR BUTT AND SEND YOU TO YOUR BEDROOM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2018, 08:30:10 PM
Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
Post by: cat97 on March 09, 2018, 08:46:11 PM
Also, 29 on 13 for 19 tonight.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 09, 2018, 08:46:45 PM
Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2018, 08:48:52 PM
Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Post by: The Big Train on March 09, 2018, 08:56:17 PM
Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Obviously Makol “big time move” Mawein is light years better than you portrayed him to be.
Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2018, 08:58:46 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 09, 2018, 08:59:46 PM
Dudes he played against Mitch Lightfoot. Let’s just pump the breaks a bit. J
Lightfoot plays for TCU too :confused:
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2018, 09:20:55 PM
Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Obviously Makol “big time move” Mawein is light years better than you portrayed him to be.
So those games where he played horrifically, he really didn't? I think the only two games on his game log that have changed in the last 36 hours were yesterday's and today's. If I go back and watch the TCU game from last week would I hear Dino Gaudio dubbed over his "what is he doing out there" when talking about Mak?
Post by: 8manpick on March 09, 2018, 09:24:11 PM
Juco player who has been learning how to play Webers defense and fit into the offense. Biggest problem has been early fouls but slowly getting over that. Can score and plays great defense. Surprised all of our fans do not appreciate having him on out team.Hot take from Mak’s uncle
Also, 29 on 13 for 19 tonight.
Post by: The Big Train on March 09, 2018, 09:27:28 PM
Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Obviously Makol “big time move” Mawein is light years better than you portrayed him to be.
So those games where he played horrifically, he really didn't? I think the only two games on his game log that have changed in the last 36 hours were yesterday's and today's. If I go back and watch the TCU game from last week would I hear Dino Gaudio dubbed over his "what is he doing out there" when talking about Mak?
You’ve had excuses all year for the games he’s played well. I mean he’s just not as bad as you want him to be. So are we taking everything an announcers says as the word? I mean the same people say oscar is one of the best coaches in the league.
Post by: stunted on March 09, 2018, 09:44:30 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 09, 2018, 09:49:09 PM
Post by: stunted on March 09, 2018, 09:57:35 PM
but really we don't know crap about what goes on behind the scenes.
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2018, 09:58:30 PM
So who does that reflect on more, oscar or Mawein? He just like the sprint center that much he was like, “I think I’ll just play harder today”?oscar, he never would play for most coaches for just of the year, his laziness should have been unacceptable.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 09, 2018, 09:59:27 PM
- michicat and mir
Mak scores 29 against ku, 16 the game before, etc.
I told you he was awful bc [cites anecdotal stat]. I'm not wrong! [Sucks thumb and throws self on floor]
- michicat and mir
Post by: The Big Train on March 09, 2018, 10:02:40 PM
So who does that reflect on more, oscar or Mawein? He just like the sprint center that much he was like, “I think I’ll just play harder today”?oscar, he never would play for most coaches for just of the year, his laziness should have been unacceptable.
Alright so let’s explore this a bit. His best game is with Dean and Barry both out. He’s forced to get the ball more. If Dean and Barry play, who is in control of who gets the ball? oscar is. This is such a ridiculous argument.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2018, 10:06:40 PM
Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Obviously Makol “big time move” Mawein is light years better than you portrayed him to be.
So those games where he played horrifically, he really didn't? I think the only two games on his game log that have changed in the last 36 hours were yesterday's and today's. If I go back and watch the TCU game from last week would I hear Dino Gaudio dubbed over his "what is he doing out there" when talking about Mak?
You’ve had excuses all year for the games he’s played well. I mean he’s just not as bad as you want him to be. So are we taking everything an announcers says as the word? I mean the same people say oscar is one of the best coaches in the league.
Are you trolling? Seriously. Pointing out his weaknesses is having excuses, what do I need an excuse for? Am I making an excuse if I point out he had the lowest rebound rate tonight of any player that actually saw real playing time?
He's playing harder and more definitively with the ball, I'm excessively happy about that. Again, that doesn't make his past transgressions non-existent.
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2018, 10:08:51 PM
So who does that reflect on more, oscar or Mawein? He just like the sprint center that much he was like, “I think I’ll just play harder today”?oscar, he never would play for most coaches for just of the year, his laziness should have been unacceptable.
Alright so let’s explore this a bit. His best game is with Dean and Barry both out. He’s forced to get the ball more. If Dean and Barry play, who is in control of who gets the ball? oscar is. This is such a ridiculous argument.
I'm not even going to try to understand what your point is
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2018, 10:09:38 PM
He's the worst big in the history of kstate bball
- michicat and mir
Mak scores 29 against ku, 16 the game before, etc.
I told you he was awful bc [cites anecdotal stat]. I'm not wrong! [Sucks thumb and throws self on floor]
- michicat and mir
He's definitely not the worst big in the history of the program, if I said that I was wrong.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 09, 2018, 10:09:49 PM
-MIR
Post by: The Big Train on March 09, 2018, 10:12:59 PM
Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Obviously Makol “big time move” Mawein is light years better than you portrayed him to be.
So those games where he played horrifically, he really didn't? I think the only two games on his game log that have changed in the last 36 hours were yesterday's and today's. If I go back and watch the TCU game from last week would I hear Dino Gaudio dubbed over his "what is he doing out there" when talking about Mak?
You’ve had excuses all year for the games he’s played well. I mean he’s just not as bad as you want him to be. So are we taking everything an announcers says as the word? I mean the same people say oscar is one of the best coaches in the league.
Are you trolling? Seriously. Pointing out his weaknesses is having excuses, what do I need an excuse for? Am I making an excuse if I point out he had the lowest rebound rate tonight of any player that actually saw real playing time?
He's playing harder and more definitively with the ball, I'm excessively happy about that. Again, that doesn't make his past transgressions non-existent.
He had almost half our points tonight on 13-19 shooting. He hasn’t been a rebounding machine all year. You portrayed him as an all around garbage player, he’s not. Why does he need big rebounding numbers if he’s scoring almost half the points?
Again I think this just comes back to oscar. With Barry and Dean out shows how much of a waste offensively he’s been this year from lack of coaching.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2018, 10:13:37 PM
Ya know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
You probably should have walked off with what I previously gave you because this might be the worst analogy in the history of analogies, seriously.
Post by: The Big Train on March 09, 2018, 10:14:13 PM
So who does that reflect on more, oscar or Mawein? He just like the sprint center that much he was like, “I think I’ll just play harder today”?oscar, he never would play for most coaches for just of the year, his laziness should have been unacceptable.
Alright so let’s explore this a bit. His best game is with Dean and Barry both out. He’s forced to get the ball more. If Dean and Barry play, who is in control of who gets the ball? oscar is. This is such a ridiculous argument.
I'm not even going to try to understand what your point is
oscar doesn’t know how to manage the talent he has outside of one or two players
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2018, 10:17:10 PM
Michicat and MIR need to report to swallow crow
It's crap like this that's infuriating. He was great offensively in this tournament, he's going to be on the all-tournament team, not a single person on the planet saw that coming. This doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season as a liability. He got pulled early again tonight. He played 30+ minutes yet somehow couldn't out rebound Kam or McGuirl, that's not good.
This is one of those [many many many] times where it would be better to admit you were wrong.
Tell me what I was wrong about.
Obviously Makol “big time move” Mawein is light years better than you portrayed him to be.
So those games where he played horrifically, he really didn't? I think the only two games on his game log that have changed in the last 36 hours were yesterday's and today's. If I go back and watch the TCU game from last week would I hear Dino Gaudio dubbed over his "what is he doing out there" when talking about Mak?
You’ve had excuses all year for the games he’s played well. I mean he’s just not as bad as you want him to be. So are we taking everything an announcers says as the word? I mean the same people say oscar is one of the best coaches in the league.
Are you trolling? Seriously. Pointing out his weaknesses is having excuses, what do I need an excuse for? Am I making an excuse if I point out he had the lowest rebound rate tonight of any player that actually saw real playing time?
He's playing harder and more definitively with the ball, I'm excessively happy about that. Again, that doesn't make his past transgressions non-existent.
He had almost half our points tonight on 13-19 shooting. He hasn’t been a rebounding machine all year. You portrayed him as an all around garbage player, he’s not. Why does he need big rebounding numbers if he’s scoring almost half the points?
Again I think this just comes back to oscar. With Barry and Dean out shows how much of a waste offensively he’s been this year from lack of coaching.
No, I haven't, not even close. I'm done with this because either you can't read or you're drunk. I can't argue with you if you don't even know what my critiques were. This isn't the issue rusty had with him either.
Also you keep hammering whatever you're saying about oscar but none of us understand what the hell you're taking about.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2018, 10:18:38 PM
So who does that reflect on more, oscar or Mawein? He just like the sprint center that much he was like, “I think I’ll just play harder today”?oscar, he never would play for most coaches for just of the year, his laziness should have been unacceptable.
Alright so let’s explore this a bit. His best game is with Dean and Barry both out. He’s forced to get the ball more. If Dean and Barry play, who is in control of who gets the ball? oscar is. This is such a ridiculous argument.
I'm not even going to try to understand what your point is
oscar doesn’t know how to manage the talent he has outside of one or two players
My God.
Post by: The Big Train on March 09, 2018, 10:19:04 PM
Post by: 8manpick on March 09, 2018, 10:22:00 PM
Literally has a 17 assist NBA gameYa know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
You probably should have walked off with what I previously gave you because this might be the worst analogy in the history of analogies, seriously.
Post by: The Big Train on March 09, 2018, 10:25:05 PM
Literally has a 17 assist NBA gameYa know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
You probably should have walked off with what I previously gave you because this might be the worst analogy in the history of analogies, seriously.
FSD is pretty devoid of factual statements.
Post by: gatoveintisiet on March 09, 2018, 10:32:23 PM
Literally has a 17 assist NBA gameYa know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
You probably should have walked off with what I previously gave you because this might be the worst analogy in the history of analogies, seriously.
FSD is pretty devoid of factual statements.
Well technically all you’ve proven to have is gas
Post by: 8manpick on March 09, 2018, 10:33:25 PM
FYPLiterally has a 17 assist NBA gameYa know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
You probably should have walked off with what I previously gave you because this might be the worst analogy in the history of analogies, seriously.
FSD is pretty devoid of factual statements.
Well technically all you’ve proven to have is gas money
Post by: The Big Train on March 09, 2018, 10:34:27 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 09, 2018, 11:08:35 PM
Ya know, Jordan never amassed a lot of assists, so he's basically the worst guard in Bulls history.
-MIR
You probably should have walked off with what I previously gave you because this might be the worst analogy in the history of analogies, seriously.
3 or his last 9 games he had less than 3 assists, worst guard in Bulls history
-michicat
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 09, 2018, 11:09:45 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 09, 2018, 11:10:07 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 09, 2018, 11:16:56 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 09, 2018, 11:24:52 PM
Oh, and My Ween (grabs junk) had 29 pts tonight and clowned two 4* recruits in the process.Wasn’t mawien a top 150 recruit lol
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 10, 2018, 08:17:29 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 10, 2018, 10:05:27 AM
Like 148 to be fair. Same as that shitty skinny big we got from Florida that sucked under Frank. I honestly couldn't name him if my life depended on it.Oh, and My Ween (grabs junk) had 29 pts tonight and clowned two 4* recruits in the process.Wasn’t mawien a top 150 recruit lol
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Post by: EMAWzifried on March 10, 2018, 10:18:39 AM
Diaz or Dias. Wasn't so shitty and had a pretty good career at one of Florida Central, International, Whatever schools once he left.Like 148 to be fair. Same as that shitty skinny big we got from Florida that sucked under Frank. I honestly couldn't name him if my life depended on it.Oh, and My Ween (grabs junk) had 29 pts tonight and clowned two 4* recruits in the process.Wasn’t mawien a top 150 recruit lol
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 10, 2018, 10:35:26 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 10, 2018, 12:09:02 PM
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 10, 2018, 12:23:00 PM
#Kornbred #Kornfed
Post by: wetwillie on March 10, 2018, 12:24:08 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 10, 2018, 12:35:27 PM
MIR and michicat, you go sit in timeout until you are ready to apologize to Mak. :nono:
Do you read or just post?
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 15, 2018, 09:35:57 AM
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Post by: The Whale on March 16, 2018, 08:45:51 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2018, 08:47:14 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 16, 2018, 08:48:01 PM
dat rim protection tho
That 3 from the top of the key in rhythm tho too
Post by: steve dave on March 16, 2018, 09:04:19 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2018, 09:09:25 PM
Post by: The Whale on March 16, 2018, 09:11:47 PM
yea sd im not certain if it was stockard but a non my ween (grabs junk) big missed an uncontested dunk shot and i nearly died
It was Stockard - he complimented the missed dunk with terrible defense too
Post by: steve dave on March 16, 2018, 09:14:02 PM
Post by: sys on March 16, 2018, 09:30:20 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 16, 2018, 09:33:31 PM
i don't think kstate's bigs are that bad. promising young bigs, imo.
you're lying. which ones and why?
Post by: sys on March 16, 2018, 09:34:47 PM
i don't think kstate's bigs are that bad. promising young bigs, imo.
you're lying. which ones and why?
i can't tell them apart. they all seem pretty good for freshmen.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 16, 2018, 09:36:17 PM
Post by: cat97 on March 17, 2018, 12:01:45 AM
We were back to bad Mak tonight, he was very lazy, but I don't even careMawien had another good game on defense. When you are the primary big in the game and you hold Creighton 59, you played some good defense. Creighton doubled down and took the inside away.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 17, 2018, 10:25:12 AM
We were back to bad Mak tonight, he was very lazy, but I don't even careMawien had another good game on defense. When you are the primary big in the game and you hold Creighton 59, you played some good defense. Creighton doubled down and took the inside away.
We should be beyond the point where we're grading Mak on a curve. He was mediocre at best last night and that's fine. He does need to be more consistent with his effort.
Post by: The Whale on March 17, 2018, 11:00:22 AM
We were back to bad Mak tonight, he was very lazy, but I don't even careMawien had another good game on defense. When you are the primary big in the game and you hold Creighton 59, you played some good defense. Creighton doubled down and took the inside away.
We should be beyond the point where we're grading Mak on a curve. He was mediocre at best last night and that's fine. He does need to be more consistent with his effort.
His defense was pretty good - miles better than Stockard, but man that offense last night, yuck. If he could catch the ball, he could have led the team in points.
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 17, 2018, 11:04:42 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 17, 2018, 11:22:16 AM
We were back to bad Mak tonight, he was very lazy, but I don't even careMawien had another good game on defense. When you are the primary big in the game and you hold Creighton 59, you played some good defense. Creighton doubled down and took the inside away.
We should be beyond the point where we're grading Mak on a curve. He was mediocre at best last night and that's fine. He does need to be more consistent with his effort.
His defense was pretty good - miles better than Stockard, but man that offense last night, yuck. If he could catch the ball, he could have led the team in points.
Agree. My frustration is that he did not work hard on the offensive side of the ball at all. He didn't even attempt to post hard last night and I'm guessing it's because of that 3 he hit early.
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 17, 2018, 11:27:44 AM
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Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2018, 11:54:15 AM
Creighton doubled him everytime he caught the ball in the paint. He didn't handle that too well.That was a pretty silly move by McNeck imo.
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Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2018, 11:59:02 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on March 17, 2018, 02:52:09 PM
McNeck prepared for Dean and just stuck with the game plan #facecoachedoffCreighton doubled him everytime he caught the ball in the paint. He didn't handle that too well.That was a pretty silly move by McNeck imo.
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Post by: cat97 on March 17, 2018, 04:02:13 PM
More likely this board just likes to throw players under the bus to provide additional motivation. Seems to be working for Mak and Stokes. Good job posters.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 17, 2018, 06:22:44 PM
Been reading this board. Our three defenders held Creighton to their lowest point total of the year (59) with the two worst and laziest defenders, "Mak and Stokes" on the floor with them. Very impressive that three guys can play great team defense in spite of Stokes and Mak. . And that was great team defense last night.
More likely this board just likes to throw players under the bus to provide additional motivation. Seems to be working for Mak and Stokes. Good job posters.
It's not just this board.
Post by: dal9 on March 17, 2018, 06:35:35 PM
Post by: renocat on March 17, 2018, 06:52:12 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 17, 2018, 11:38:36 PM
Been reading this board. Our three defenders held Creighton to their lowest point total of the year (59) with the two worst and laziest defenders, "Mak and Stokes" on the floor with them. Very impressive that three guys can play great team defense in spite of Stokes and Mak. . And that was great team defense last night.
More likely this board just likes to throw players under the bus to provide additional motivation. Seems to be working for Mak and Stokes. Good job posters.
It's not just this board.
Unless I'm blind there isn't a single post on this board that questioned Mak's or Kam's defense, literally not a single one. Cat97, who clearly has a personal stake in defending Mak, can't argue against the observation that Mak was bad offensively last night so it's easier to lash out at this board.
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2018, 11:44:12 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 17, 2018, 11:49:45 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 17, 2018, 11:53:49 PM
I can't recall ever seeing a basketball player, on any team, on any level, who has such a wide and obvious disparity of how he looks on the court simply based on effort. I'm starting to wonder if the dude is just a timid guy and his effort level is more about comfort and confidence.The dude is definitely timid. He just needs to get into the zone. Dean needs to coach him up tomorrow and tell him how to come out of his shell
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Post by: DQ12 on March 18, 2018, 09:41:49 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 18, 2018, 09:47:08 AM
I'm starting to wonder if the dude is just a timid guy and his effort level is more about comfort and confidence.
I don't think this is even debatable.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 18, 2018, 10:15:00 AM
I'm starting to wonder if the dude is just a timid guy and his effort level is more about comfort and confidence.
I don't think this is even debatable.
His interview after the Big 12 tournament game was really awkward. I'd say the issues is confidence over effort.
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2018, 10:21:59 AM
Post by: cat97 on March 18, 2018, 12:12:23 PM
How bout the post I pasted below from this thread. One of a number just in this thread. (This was from the OU game where his hedge on ball screens helped us get 12 turnovers from Young.) And I do liike to point out errors by posters who lash out at players.Been reading this board. Our three defenders held Creighton to their lowest point total of the year (59) with the two worst and laziest defenders, "Mak and Stokes" on the floor with them. Very impressive that three guys can play great team defense in spite of Stokes and Mak. . And that was great team defense last night.
More likely this board just likes to throw players under the bus to provide additional motivation. Seems to be working for Mak and Stokes. Good job posters.
It's not just this board.
Unless I'm blind there isn't a single post on this board that questioned Mak's or Kam's defense, literally not a single one. Cat97, who clearly has a personal stake in defending Mak, can't argue against the observation that Mak was bad offensively last night so it's easier to lash out at this board.
Mawien did not handle Creightons double teams last night. Caused him to make three turnovers. That's what happend. Meanwhile, he was part of the team defense that held Creighton to a season low.
Quote from this thread: There was a possession where he lost his man 3 times in the paint, fouled him and the OU guy got called for a travel. He fouls on box outs a lot. He is terrible.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2018, 12:42:36 PM
How bout the post I pasted below from this thread. One of a number just in this thread. (This was from the OU game where his hedge on ball screens helped us get 12 turnovers from Young.) And I do liike to point out errors by posters who lash out at players.Been reading this board. Our three defenders held Creighton to their lowest point total of the year (59) with the two worst and laziest defenders, "Mak and Stokes" on the floor with them. Very impressive that three guys can play great team defense in spite of Stokes and Mak. . And that was great team defense last night.
More likely this board just likes to throw players under the bus to provide additional motivation. Seems to be working for Mak and Stokes. Good job posters.
It's not just this board.
Unless I'm blind there isn't a single post on this board that questioned Mak's or Kam's defense, literally not a single one. Cat97, who clearly has a personal stake in defending Mak, can't argue against the observation that Mak was bad offensively last night so it's easier to lash out at this board.
Mawien did not handle Creightons double teams last night. Caused him to make three turnovers. That's what happend. Meanwhile, he was part of the team defense that held Creighton to a season low.
Quote from this thread: There was a possession where he lost his man 3 times in the paint, fouled him and the OU guy got called for a travel. He fouls on box outs a lot. He is terrible.
So you took posts from a couple of weeks ago to indict "this board" about Friday night? Being good on defense the last game doesn't erase what he did, actually didn't do, during past games. We're all glad he's improving, hopefully he can start to show consistent effort.
Post by: 8manpick on March 18, 2018, 01:26:13 PM
How bout the post I pasted below from this thread. One of a number just in this thread. (This was from the OU game where his hedge on ball screens helped us get 12 turnovers from Young.) And I do liike to point out errors by posters who lash out at players.Been reading this board. Our three defenders held Creighton to their lowest point total of the year (59) with the two worst and laziest defenders, "Mak and Stokes" on the floor with them. Very impressive that three guys can play great team defense in spite of Stokes and Mak. . And that was great team defense last night.
More likely this board just likes to throw players under the bus to provide additional motivation. Seems to be working for Mak and Stokes. Good job posters.
It's not just this board.
Unless I'm blind there isn't a single post on this board that questioned Mak's or Kam's defense, literally not a single one. Cat97, who clearly has a personal stake in defending Mak, can't argue against the observation that Mak was bad offensively last night so it's easier to lash out at this board.
Mawien did not handle Creightons double teams last night. Caused him to make three turnovers. That's what happend. Meanwhile, he was part of the team defense that held Creighton to a season low.
Quote from this thread: There was a possession where he lost his man 3 times in the paint, fouled him and the OU guy got called for a travel. He fouls on box outs a lot. He is terrible.
We have a quote function. Why not use it in place of
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Quote from this thread: There was a possession where he lost his man 3 times in the paint, fouled him and the OU guy got called for a travel. He fouls on box outs a lot. He is terrible.?
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2018, 07:05:06 PM
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Post by: cfbandyman on March 18, 2018, 11:46:09 PM
He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.
I'll agree with that, I was thinking more of his rim protecting, he actually kinda plays that will zeal, which is refreshing.
Post by: kslim on March 19, 2018, 01:41:26 PM
He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.yeah, when the rican hit that three and they showed the replay mak just shrugged his shoulders as maura shot. i lol'ed pretty good at that one
Post by: The Whale on March 19, 2018, 01:57:08 PM
He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.
It's astounding how much worse the defense gets when Stockard enters the game. We're in the post-season tournament after an entire season of play and can't sub out Mawein(!) without taking a big dropoff in defense.
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2018, 02:05:03 PM
He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.
It's astounding how much worse the defense gets when Stockard enters the game. We're in the post-season tournament after an entire season of play and can't sub out Mawein(!) without taking a big dropoff in defense.
we didn't take much of a hit when Wainright replaced him. oscar was actually subbing Mawien on offense only for a while, (LOL @ that, too).
UMBC's only players over 6-6 were basically wings so it was not a game for Stockard to be effective (not that many are)
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2018, 02:59:21 PM
He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.
It's astounding how much worse the defense gets when Stockard enters the game. We're in the post-season tournament after an entire season of play and can't sub out Mawein(!) without taking a big dropoff in defense.
we didn't take much of a hit when Wainright replaced him. oscar was actually subbing Mawien on offense only for a while, (LOL @ that, too).
UMBC's only players over 6-6 were basically wings so it was not a game for Stockard to be effective (not that many are)
The lineup with wainright was far and away our best one. The subbing of Mak on offense was lol because the guards simply refused to pass him the ball down the stretch.
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2018, 03:01:20 PM
He had a couple of atrocious switches on D that led to wide open 3s and dunks. Probably accounted for like half of UMBC's points. But was pretty excellent at helping at the rim.
It's astounding how much worse the defense gets when Stockard enters the game. We're in the post-season tournament after an entire season of play and can't sub out Mawein(!) without taking a big dropoff in defense.
we didn't take much of a hit when Wainright replaced him. oscar was actually subbing Mawien on offense only for a while, (LOL @ that, too).
UMBC's only players over 6-6 were basically wings so it was not a game for Stockard to be effective (not that many are)
The lineup with wainright was far and away our best one. The subbing of Mak on offense was lol because the guards simply refused to pass him the ball down the stretch.
well to be fair every time they tried after the first 10 minutes it was an automatic turnover, either because of a bad pass, bad catch, or double.
Post by: pissclams on March 19, 2018, 03:09:51 PM
all in all, the team really wasn’t mentally focused
Post by: meow meow on March 19, 2018, 03:10:18 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on March 19, 2018, 05:23:02 PM
never seen anyone have such a time trying to feed the post, the passes were awful, and makol struggled posting up in a way that he could catch the pass
Real ones remember Big Meat on the block.
Post by: cat97 on March 19, 2018, 05:40:01 PM
Didn't catch entry passes from our guards that were thrown three feet away from him. Hard to understand why he didn't get charged for the turnovers on those entry passes.
Hope those complaining about Mawien are scouting replacements.
Post by: Trim on March 19, 2018, 05:44:12 PM
never seen anyone have such a time trying to feed the post, the passes were awful, and makol struggled posting up in a way that he could catch the pass
Real ones remember Big Meat on the block.
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2018, 06:42:24 PM
He did hit two huge FTs in the second half.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2018, 06:46:33 PM
never seen anyone have such a time trying to feed the post, the passes were awful, and makol struggled posting up in a way that he could catch the pass
Real ones remember Big Meat on the block.
My first thought was to Mike telling Andre Gilbert "post passes are a bitch" after he literally threw the Oregon game away.
Post by: cat97 on March 19, 2018, 07:12:13 PM
My guy/gal cat97 is consistent, come in and complain that Mak was mentioned in non glowing ways but avoids the actual critique leveled.
He did hit two huge FTs in the second half.
Critrique seemed to target Mawiens inability to catch post passes and his breakdowns on help defense. I addressed both. Does not mean you agree with me.
Now we have Weber claiming Mawien is one of the best ball screen defenders in the country and Lowrey saying Mac is a great ball screen defender. Both those guys actually know more about defense than I do. You don't have to agree with them either.
The biggest concern is Mawien getting in early foul trouble against Kentucky but lately Mawien has avoided the moving screens and the arms in the defenders back going for rebounds. If the refs keep allowing physical play like they have so far in this tournament, we may be OK against UK.
Post by: Catman2 on March 19, 2018, 07:36:56 PM
My guy/gal cat97 is consistent, come in and complain that Mak was mentioned in non glowing ways but avoids the actual critique leveled.
He did hit two huge FTs in the second half.
Critrique seemed to target Mawiens inability to catch post passes and his breakdowns on help defense. I addressed both. Does not mean you agree with me.
Now we have Weber claiming Mawien is one of the best ball screen defenders in the country and Lowrey saying Mac is a great ball screen defender. Both those guys actually know more about defense than I do. You don't have to agree with them either.
The biggest concern is Mawien getting in early foul trouble against Kentucky but lately Mawien has avoided the moving screens and the arms in the defenders back going for rebounds. If the refs keep allowing physical play like they have so far in this tournament, we may be OK against UK.
Maybe Love lll gets some time on the floor considering their size like he was used against Texas and Baylor.
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2018, 07:38:58 PM
Post by: Trim on March 19, 2018, 07:55:48 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2018, 09:01:48 PM
My guy/gal cat97 is consistent, come in and complain that Mak was mentioned in non glowing ways but avoids the actual critique leveled.
He did hit two huge FTs in the second half.
Critrique seemed to target Mawiens inability to catch post passes and his breakdowns on help defense. I addressed both. Does not mean you agree with me.
Now we have Weber claiming Mawien is one of the best ball screen defenders in the country and Lowrey saying Mac is a great ball screen defender. Both those guys actually know more about defense than I do. You don't have to agree with them either.
The biggest concern is Mawien getting in early foul trouble against Kentucky but lately Mawien has avoided the moving screens and the arms in the defenders back going for rebounds. If the refs keep allowing physical play like they have so far in this tournament, we may be OK against UK.
I've praised him for the same thing, that doesn't mean that he didn't have two simply awful switches last night that led to 5 late points in a tight game.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2018, 10:28:18 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 19, 2018, 10:28:18 PM
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Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 19, 2018, 10:28:54 PM
He had a block or two when UMBC could have taken the lead that may have saved the game. He's become a much better rim protector than I ever imagined.Love clutch Mak blocks. Probably one of my favorite things in life right now.
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Post by: DQ12 on March 19, 2018, 10:47:01 PM
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Post by: cat97 on March 20, 2018, 05:30:18 AM
We are in the sweet 16 because of our defense. Just held a team to 43 points.
Lets hope Mawien stays out of foul trouble against Kentucky.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 20, 2018, 08:23:53 AM
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Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2018, 09:05:39 AM
Don't know why people are bitching about Mawein. Want to complain? Lets talk about Stockard and how he didn't even show up to get on the plane. About Love? Is he even on the team?
No one is really bitching, just observing/laughing. he's an incredible athlete/body but extremely lazy at times and makes some incredibly laughable plays but would still play 30 minutes/game if no foul trouble.
I mean you ever wonder why folks are talking about Stokes's shooting instead of getting mad at Brian Patrick?
Post by: troubledscribe on March 20, 2018, 11:43:00 AM
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2018, 12:23:23 PM
this team would be amaze with curtis kelly
I think even JO puts it into the elite tier as well
Post by: 8manpick on March 20, 2018, 01:48:48 PM
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I mean, he generally has pretty good basketball thoughts, but they are heavily focused on Mawien and seen through the rosiest colored glasses in existence.
Post by: Trim on March 20, 2018, 01:55:46 PM
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 20, 2018, 02:32:17 PM
It sure is a fascinating coincidence that @cat97 signed up for gE the same day that Makol Mawien committed to Kansas State.
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I mean, he generally has pretty good basketball thoughts, but they are heavily focused on Mawien and seen through the rosiest colored glasses in existence.
Unfortunately Mawein was born in 96 otherwise I'd say this is case closed
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Post by: PIPE on March 20, 2018, 09:12:16 PM
Just wanted to point that out
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2018, 11:06:20 AM
About Love? Is he even on the team?
LOL at oscar making him play the last 7 seconds of the UMBC game, that was a dick move.
Post by: meow meow on March 21, 2018, 11:44:03 AM
About Love? Is he even on the team?
LOL at oscar making him play the last 7 seconds of the UMBC game, that was a dick move.
why?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2018, 12:13:44 PM
About Love? Is he even on the team?
LOL at oscar making him play the last 7 seconds of the UMBC game, that was a dick move.
why?
No reason, I temporarily confused him with Sallah. Love has only played 67 minutes all season, actually more than I thought.
Post by: renocat on March 21, 2018, 05:03:16 PM
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Post by: michigancat on March 22, 2018, 10:14:34 PM
the small lineup is more fun.And effective!
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Post by: dal9 on March 22, 2018, 11:45:41 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 22, 2018, 11:57:25 PM
He had two blocks.
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2018, 12:48:13 AM
Post by: 8manpick on March 23, 2018, 07:49:40 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 23, 2018, 09:10:45 AM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 23, 2018, 09:16:12 AM
Tomorrow will be his game!
I think this is actually a pretty good call. He should feast against a much smaller team than Kentucky.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 23, 2018, 09:17:47 AM
Post by: cat97 on March 23, 2018, 09:57:50 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2018, 10:03:04 AM
Ball screen defense.:D
Post by: Cire on March 23, 2018, 11:03:37 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2018, 06:25:14 PM
Post by: 8manpick on March 24, 2018, 06:27:40 PM
Post by: sys on March 24, 2018, 06:33:25 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2018, 07:46:48 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2018, 07:48:12 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2018, 07:54:17 PM
The jacked up three was certainly a WTF moment.
I actually didn't care about that, at the time we weren't getting anything. Again, my beef with him was effort. He didn't post hard and he never even attempted to get an offensive rebound, literally didn't try, didn't fight for position, didn't jump, it was pathetic. Getting Trice has to be the #1 priority.
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2018, 07:59:49 PM
His defensive effort was pretty poor too. There was that sequence where the big did the screen/hand off for a four point play and an easy layup on back to back possessions that was amazingThe jacked up three was certainly a WTF moment.
I actually didn't care about that, at the time we weren't getting anything. Again, my beef with him was effort. He didn't post hard and he never even attempted to get an offensive rebound, literally didn't try, didn't fight for position, didn't jump, it was pathetic. Getting Trice has to be the #1 priority.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 24, 2018, 08:03:11 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2018, 08:03:51 PM
His defensive effort was pretty poor too. There was that sequence where the big did the screen/hand off for a four point play and an easy layup on back to back possessions that was amazingThe jacked up three was certainly a WTF moment.
I actually didn't care about that, at the time we weren't getting anything. Again, my beef with him was effort. He didn't post hard and he never even attempted to get an offensive rebound, literally didn't try, didn't fight for position, didn't jump, it was pathetic. Getting Trice has to be the #1 priority.
It wasn't him, but the worst post defense was helping on a guard leaping out of bounds, who then threw back to an uncovered center for 2 plus 1. Just head-shake stupid.
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2018, 08:14:16 PM
Watching him trot up & down the floor like it was a pick up game for possession after possession in the elite 8 was maddeningHe did it all year, but yes.
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2018, 08:15:02 PM
Yes I mentioned this in another thread. oscar loves him some dribble penetration help.His defensive effort was pretty poor too. There was that sequence where the big did the screen/hand off for a four point play and an easy layup on back to back possessions that was amazingThe jacked up three was certainly a WTF moment.
I actually didn't care about that, at the time we weren't getting anything. Again, my beef with him was effort. He didn't post hard and he never even attempted to get an offensive rebound, literally didn't try, didn't fight for position, didn't jump, it was pathetic. Getting Trice has to be the #1 priority.
It wasn't him, but the worst post defense was helping on a guard leaping out of bounds, who then threw back to an uncovered center for 2 plus 1. Just head-shake stupid.
Post by: zackole1 on March 24, 2018, 08:21:09 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2018, 09:10:21 PM
He should have owned Mongo underneath the basket tonight...
Why? That kid is about a hundred times better.
Someone earlier in this thread said it best, Mak really should be playing a Stockard or James Love role on this team.
Post by: PIPE on March 24, 2018, 09:24:57 PM
Mawien is 100 times the player those dudes are. Did you see Love try and play the game of basketball tonight? Totally amazingly awful
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2018, 09:27:55 PM
Post by: dal9 on March 24, 2018, 09:48:01 PM
I actually thought both were better in their very limited minutes. With how we play we don't need skill there, we need defense and rebounding, effort. It's literally not possible to give less than Mak did these last two games.especially love i thought...stockard was super apathetic too...that last and-1 he gave up, sweet jesus
Post by: 8manpick on March 24, 2018, 10:03:12 PM
That was a shitty no contact foul.I actually thought both were better in their very limited minutes. With how we play we don't need skill there, we need defense and rebounding, effort. It's literally not possible to give less than Mak did these last two games.especially love i thought...stockard was super apathetic too...that last and-1 he gave up, sweet jesus
Post by: cat97 on March 24, 2018, 10:20:05 PM
first half we let post entries and then no help defense for the post. Impossible to stop a center with post moves from scoring if he receives the ball in the block and has time to work. Still the right strategy vs giving up threes. Second half we fronted Mongo and had better success stopping him.
Post by: nicname on March 25, 2018, 03:37:00 AM
I actually thought both were better in their very limited minutes. With how we play we don't need skill there, we need defense and rebounding, effort. It's literally not possible to give less than Mak did these last two games.
Yes, and super gross that he actually has pretty good post moves. His lack of effort is maddening. Hopefully Jamar and other work his ass out in scrimmages or whatever this summer if that's a thing that happens.
Post by: Cire on March 25, 2018, 10:36:56 AM
Like the laziness isn't a lack of effort thing, it's a I'm lost and don't know what to do thing.
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 25, 2018, 11:02:11 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2018, 11:11:32 AM
I'm holding out hope that he just has the lowest bbiq OAT and just needs time and muscle memory to set in. Then he will be solid.No I think it's lack of effort most of the time
Like the laziness isn't a lack of effort thing, it's a I'm lost and don't know what to do thing.
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2018, 04:36:20 PM
If he was white, nobody would think he's lazy.
lol
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 25, 2018, 05:07:21 PM
https://twitter.com/JonErskine/status/977993467832950784?s=19
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2018, 05:30:59 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2018, 05:31:50 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2018, 05:46:51 PM
Post by: sys on March 25, 2018, 05:53:14 PM
How many top 150 big men are red shirted.
gotta be someone good enough to be worth keeping a 'ship unproductive for a year but not good enough that he might leave before exhausting eligibility. plus he's got to be amenable.
Post by: Cire on March 26, 2018, 06:09:51 AM
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Post by: renocat on March 26, 2018, 07:48:04 AM
He and his staff have proven that they cannot coach up bigs.
Mawien was the best big we have, scary.
We will not go to the next level without post play.
Post by: cat97 on March 26, 2018, 07:56:36 AM
and a 6ft 9 player who averaged 11 and 6 rebounds.
They went to the second round of the tournament that year.
Mawien weighed 20 lbs less than he does now. Redshirting made sense for Utah if you believe in red shirting basketball players.
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2018, 08:12:38 AM
Weber can't refruit big men of quality.
He and his staff have proven that they cannot coach up bigs.
Mawien was the best big we have, scary.
We will not go to the next level without post play.
Is Wade not a big? Has he not improved incrementally since he stepped on campus? My questions are more to the coaching-up of bigs rather than the recruiting of them.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2018, 11:02:17 AM
Weber can't refruit big men of quality.
He and his staff have proven that they cannot coach up bigs.
Mawien was the best big we have, scary.
We will not go to the next level without post play.
Is Wade not a big? Has he not improved incrementally since he stepped on campus? My questions are more to the coaching-up of bigs rather than the recruiting of them.
You should worry about both. In five off seasons he's ran off 5 bigs. He's only recruited and retained DJamer and Brandon Bolden (two years). If you want to count Wade, he will only be their third. They'll also lose at least one more this off season.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 26, 2018, 11:22:59 AM
Does Hurt count as a big?Weber can't refruit big men of quality.
He and his staff have proven that they cannot coach up bigs.
Mawien was the best big we have, scary.
We will not go to the next level without post play.
Is Wade not a big? Has he not improved incrementally since he stepped on campus? My questions are more to the coaching-up of bigs rather than the recruiting of them.
You should worry about both. In five off seasons he's ran off 5 bigs. He's only recruited and retained DJamer and Brandon Bolden (two years). If you want to count Wade, he will only be their third. They'll also lose at least one more this off season.
Post by: LickNeckey on March 26, 2018, 12:14:54 PM
Weber can't refruit big men of quality.
He and his staff have proven that they cannot coach up bigs.
Mawien was the best big we have, scary.
We will not go to the next level without post play.
Is Wade not a big? Has he not improved incrementally since he stepped on campus? My questions are more to the coaching-up of bigs rather than the recruiting of them.
He is big but not necessarily a "big"
still has a very limited post set and depends on face up for the majority of his looks. I am not sure who works with "bigs" but post development has been minimal.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2018, 07:50:07 PM
Does Hurt count as a big?Weber can't refruit big men of quality.
He and his staff have proven that they cannot coach up bigs.
Mawien was the best big we have, scary.
We will not go to the next level without post play.
Is Wade not a big? Has he not improved incrementally since he stepped on campus? My questions are more to the coaching-up of bigs rather than the recruiting of them.
You should worry about both. In five off seasons he's ran off 5 bigs. He's only recruited and retained DJamer and Brandon Bolden (two years). If you want to count Wade, he will only be their third. They'll also lose at least one more this off season.
Yes! I've wasn't run off, not developed either. Two years of service to the cats!
Post by: manpow5 on September 27, 2018, 02:24:03 AM
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2018, 03:32:13 AM
Post by: pissclams on September 27, 2018, 09:41:40 AM
25 pounds of muscle in 6 months? must be on the 1997 ksu football training plan (roids) :lynchmob:
i hope he's addicted to roids
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2018, 05:41:52 PM
Post by: louie on September 27, 2018, 06:17:27 PM
hope they all are. austin trice put on 40 pounds since he got here :surprised:
What! Where did you see this?
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2018, 06:47:10 PM
Post by: Steffy08 on October 02, 2018, 10:38:15 AM
25 pounds of muscle in 6 months? must be on the 1997 ksu football training plan (roids) :lynchmob:
Can roids avoid broken feet?
Post by: Steffy08 on October 02, 2018, 10:39:34 AM
I'm a fan.......his upside is Curtis Kelly.
Post by: renocat on October 02, 2018, 11:41:46 AM
Plus scrimmages against Claws, Meatfart, and Mr. Gravy Sneed.
He was getting much better at the end of year.
I see him subbing for Wade a lot, and Trice taking the low post.
Mawein is a good 3 point shooter. Can't dribble though.
Post by: 8manpick on January 19, 2019, 04:37:39 PM
Post by: cas4ksu on January 21, 2019, 09:26:58 AM
The Bellcow has looked pretty good today!
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Post by: stunted on February 03, 2019, 09:22:12 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on February 05, 2019, 09:16:48 PM
If he manages to not foul out and play 20+ minutes I’ll consider it a success
Does not look promising
Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2019, 11:28:31 PM
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Post by: kashi1965 on February 09, 2019, 08:14:50 PM
has 75 % of his shots blocked which is hard to do when you are 6'10"
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 09, 2019, 08:20:14 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 09, 2019, 08:43:27 PM
Soft AF, but he plays decent D I guess.
Nah, not that either. We really should be starting Carti with Dean at the 5. Mak can't be trusted with more than 12 minutes or so.
Post by: stunted on February 09, 2019, 08:50:00 PM
Post by: cas4ksu on February 11, 2019, 09:35:23 AM
Need him on Tuesday against UT.
Post by: AppleJack on February 12, 2019, 08:35:15 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 13, 2019, 11:07:16 AM
Mak was 5 for 7 last night and stopped most of the UT lobs to their big men. 11 points compared to 9 for Jaxson Hayes in similar minutes. Big part of the win.
Did you watch the game or just read the box score?
Post by: DQ12 on February 13, 2019, 11:10:49 AM
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Post by: PIPE on February 17, 2019, 08:18:38 AM
Just a reminder folks he will be our best big man next year :buh-bye:
Post by: Phil Titola on February 17, 2019, 08:48:38 AM
He is so rough ridin' terrible. Good god.
This. Such a soft big man.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 17, 2019, 10:11:57 AM
Can’t believe how slow and non explosive he was yesterday. Why did Weber constantly have him hedge out so far only to be slow slow to get back to his guy to get burned. Also how many times can he get blocked.
Just a reminder folks he will be our best big man next year :buh-bye:
He played the ball screens well, really the only thing he did consistently well.
Post by: DQ12 on February 17, 2019, 10:17:05 AM
He either quit today or he was really tired.He looked gassed to me.
Post by: BostonPancake on February 17, 2019, 10:26:06 AM
He either quit today or he was really tired.He looked gassed to me.
Maybe he has been sick? :dunno:
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 17, 2019, 10:50:51 AM
Our guys are great at putting out crazy effort on defense, and then taking it slow on offense. I think that is why we can retain such high defensive efficiencies.
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Post by: kstater on February 18, 2019, 09:49:08 PM
He's good at two hand dunking.About that...
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Post by: catastrophe on February 18, 2019, 09:56:32 PM
oscar 5 minutes into practice with Myween & co.: Dean take that rough ridin' boot off
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Post by: brandochav on February 19, 2019, 12:14:27 AM
Thought Mawein played one of his better games if you take out the missed dunks.Shh....you'll interrupt the crap show.
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Post by: stunted on February 19, 2019, 12:30:44 AM
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Post by: chum1 on February 19, 2019, 06:45:45 AM
The missed dunks are the least of my concerns with this dude.
Yeah, he was over 90% on two hand dunk makes before yesterday. Just had an off night.
Post by: 8manpick on February 19, 2019, 07:02:40 AM
Thought Mawein played one of his better games if you take out the missed dunks.Managed to play 16 minutes too!
Post by: AppleJack on February 19, 2019, 08:07:12 AM
How does Korn still have a job?
This was my thought watching the game. The combo of Mak, Stockard, Love, Schadd, Trice - literally none of them have improved since they've been here. I'm not even mad, it;s amazing.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 19, 2019, 08:18:58 AM
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Post by: The1BigWillie on February 19, 2019, 09:00:15 AM
I will always contend that George Hill is the worst player I've ever seen at K-State. Canby would be up there too, Mawien is much better than those two.
hill was terrible but he got minutes
ham and johnnie williams were so bad they couldn't even sniff the floor
much worse than anything we have in our program today
I can't believe we got this far with those three mentioned and nobody brought up dax jones.
I hate the crap out of Dax Jones
He was actually a really good guy when I knew him. Of course we were just kids and he was a 12 year old trapped in a 24 year old's body. He took a lot of crap and kept his head up. Very nice... He just didn't have the basketball ability everyone wanted out of that body.
Post by: PIPE on February 19, 2019, 09:12:17 AM
Why do you guys want to blame Korn for our bigs? What's he supposed to do with non-DI players? :buh-bye: :shakesfist: :sdeek: :Yuck: :flush: :dunno: :bang: :confused: :facepalm: :runaway: :jerk: :cry: :bawl: :angry:
Post by: Cire on February 19, 2019, 09:30:36 AM
Mak is fine, he just needs to quick picking up 2 fouls immediately after tip off.
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Post by: cas4ksu on February 19, 2019, 11:20:09 AM
Post by: Cire on February 19, 2019, 11:22:07 AM
He could play for us and would be our second best big guy. I don't think we recruited him at all. Maybe he just wasn't interested.
Post by: 8manpick on February 19, 2019, 11:30:32 AM
the staff raves about Denim's BBIQ. and quite frankly I don't see what their seeing.Is BBIQ code for fouling constantly? Because he is very impressive in that category.
Post by: cas4ksu on February 19, 2019, 11:31:13 AM
I wonder what the deal with Yor Anei was.
He could play for us and would be our second best big guy. I don't think we recruited him at all. Maybe he just wasn't interested.
i was just thinking the same thing the other week when i was watching him play. pretty remarkable how he's able to play at a high level with only 3 fingers on one hand.
Post by: cas4ksu on February 19, 2019, 11:31:41 AM
the staff raves about Denim's BBIQ. and quite frankly I don't see what their seeing.Is BBIQ code for fouling constantly? Because he is very impressive in that category.
must be. that and missing easy crap around the rim.
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Post by: cas4ksu on February 19, 2019, 02:04:09 PM
i know he's got it. he's a hoarder if you've ever seen one.
if you don't hear from me for awhile, assume the worst.
Post by: chum1 on February 19, 2019, 02:36:44 PM
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Q & A WITH SALUKI FORWARD BRAD KORN
What made you decide to come to SIU?
"SIU was my second choice. ISU (Illinois State) took my scholarship away. I was originally going there, but then I called here and said I was coming."
What do you plan on doing after graduating?
"Getting a job in pharmaceutical sales and seeing what happens there."
https://siusalukis.com/news/2004/3/11/q_amp_a_with_saluki_forward_brad_korn.aspx
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Yeah, it's Brad. I'm coming.
[Korn listening]
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No, they took my scholarship away.
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2019, 12:45:48 AM
Thought Mawein played one of his better games if you take out the missed dunks.Shh....you'll interrupt the crap show.
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Right, think about that, it's absurd. You guys are using the fact that he had 6 points, 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 assist in 15 minutes as "one of his better games." What the eff man? Is this real life?
Meanwhile, WVU's starting center, making his 5th damn start, had 11 points, 13 rebounds, 2 assists, and 1 block in 33 minutes. Forget the double double for a second, when was the last time Mak played 33 minutes? WITH ONE FOUL!
It's not his fault, he shouldn't be a starting center for a good power 5 program. He'd be a very good reserve.
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Post by: DQ12 on February 20, 2019, 09:25:49 AM
Are you asking when was the last time Mak played 33 minutes? Or the last time he played 33 minutes with one foul?Forget the double double for a second, when was the last time Mak played 33 minutes? WITH ONE FOUL!Thought Mawein played one of his better games if you take out the missed dunks.Shh....you'll interrupt the crap show.
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He played 35 minutes against Texas a little over a week ago. :dunno:
Post by: brandochav on February 20, 2019, 10:05:51 AM
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Post by: ChiComCat on February 20, 2019, 10:38:29 AM
Typical K-Stater....always need the sky to be falling. We're in 1st place and having a great year, but let's hyperfocus on one of our starting 5 who keeps helping us win.
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What a terrible take
Post by: cas4ksu on February 20, 2019, 11:36:07 AM
Typical K-Stater....always need the sky to be falling. We're in 1st place and having a great year, but let's hyperfocus on one of our starting 5 who keeps helping us win.
I think you may be confused. We all love The Bellcow.
Post by: 8manpick on February 20, 2019, 12:03:30 PM
Typical K-Stater....always need the sky to be falling. We're in 1st place and having a great year, but let's hyperfocus on one of our starting 5 who keeps helping us win.
I think you may be confused. We all love The Bellcow.
:dubious: :don'tcare:
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Post by: cas4ksu on February 20, 2019, 02:15:47 PM
People just need to get off his back, alright?
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2019, 02:15:54 PM
_FAN I know you’ve run the numbers and are a stats guy, BUT have you done the eye test with Mak?
Yes, there are too many times he's passive, he brings the ball to his waste constantly, and at times it doesn't look like he hustles to get a board or loose ball that it looks like he could. However, I also know the numbers, especially rates when he's on the floor, can't/don't lie either. So he's a frustrating player to watch who is also much better (especially on the boards and defense) than he's given credit for.
Post by: chum1 on February 20, 2019, 02:17:45 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 20, 2019, 02:18:04 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 20, 2019, 02:18:44 PM
_FAN I know you’ve run the numbers and are a stats guy, BUT have you done the eye test with Mak?
Yes, there are too many times he's passive, he brings the ball to his waste constantly, and at times it doesn't look like he hustles to get a board or loose ball that it looks like he could. However, I also know the numbers, especially rates when he's on the floor, can't/don't lie either. So he's a frustrating player to watch who is also much better (especially on the boards and defense) than he's given credit for.
Those are good points. I like when you come back around and do stats like that. I just have the eye test to go by and it wasn’t looking really good. It’s good to know even tho he looks like absolute dogshit he does contribute in a positive way.
Post by: 8manpick on February 20, 2019, 02:19:52 PM
You don't have to believe the numbers, but Mak's per 100s for rebounding and blocked shots are actually really good. 7th best oboarder, 6th best dboarder, 10th in blocks. His biggest issue is he dropped from over 60% on 2s last year to the low 50s this year and his TO rate has increased. None of that is much of a surprise though because he's being used more on offense and shooting slightly more while playing more minutes. He isn't nearly as terrible as our fans make him out to be for sure.He’s big, athletic and mostly coordinated. Leads to high expectations. I just think he’s a weak rebounder and soft in traffic with or around the ball. He must be fantastic at being in the right position though because his rebounding rate is high.
Post by: DQ12 on February 20, 2019, 02:21:52 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 20, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
_FAN I know you’ve run the numbers and are a stats guy, BUT have you done the eye test with Mak?
Yes, there are too many times he's passive, he brings the ball tohiswaste constantly, and at times it doesn't look like he hustles to get a board or loose ball that it looks like he could. However, I also know the numbers, especially rates when he's on the floor, can't/don't lie either. So he's a frustrating player to watch who is also much better (especially on the boards and defense) than he's given credit for.
Agree with the bolded statement.
Seriously though, we are definitely better with him out there as opposed to any other five. He is the only post we have that is capable of making a basket on an entry pass or scoring in our offense. For as much crap as Mak gets for missing those dunks, Stockard fumbled the ball out of bounds multiple times prior to being able to get a dunk off.
I don't like to give Mak too much crap because he is the best option for the team. Korn is looking like a problem. He is failing miserably at developing or recruiting bigs. Would be interested to hear his take on Korn's Korner this week
Post by: 8manpick on February 20, 2019, 02:37:45 PM
Seriously though, we are definitely better with him out there as opposed to any other five.#Dean4Center
Post by: michigancat on February 20, 2019, 02:44:46 PM
Kinda difficult with Diarra out but yesSeriously though, we are definitely better with him out there as opposed to any other five.#Dean4Center
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2019, 09:50:37 PM
Are you asking when was the last time Mak played 33 minutes? Or the last time he played 33 minutes with one foul?Forget the double double for a second, when was the last time Mak played 33 minutes? WITH ONE FOUL!Thought Mawein played one of his better games if you take out the missed dunks.Shh....you'll interrupt the crap show.
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He played 35 minutes against Texas a little over a week ago. :dunno:
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Post by: kso_FAN on February 21, 2019, 09:33:00 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/hYBg1jy/Mak-Kelly.png)
Post by: chum1 on February 21, 2019, 09:37:38 AM
Post by: Trim on February 21, 2019, 09:45:51 AM
Post by: DQ12 on February 21, 2019, 10:21:52 AM
Post by: 8manpick on February 21, 2019, 10:24:02 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 21, 2019, 11:49:47 AM
Important update to _FANs chart
:lol:
Post by: wetwillie on February 21, 2019, 12:34:46 PM
Post by: Cire on February 21, 2019, 12:36:17 PM
Curt was 100 times the player that mak is.
Post by: wetwillie on February 21, 2019, 12:40:24 PM
I don't care what those dumb charts say.
Curt was 100 times the player that mak is.
To me it says Jr Curtis Kelly is demonstrably better than Jr Mak and Sr Curtis Kelly DNGAF and had a ton of regression.
Post by: chum1 on February 21, 2019, 12:53:05 PM
I don't care what those dumb charts say.
Curt was 100 times the player that mak is.
Good point. It's possible that many here not only underrate Mawien, but also overrate Kelly.
Post by: 8manpick on February 21, 2019, 01:08:09 PM
Post by: Trim on February 21, 2019, 01:26:12 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 21, 2019, 01:45:36 PM
I don't care what those dumb charts say.
Curt was 100 times the player that mak is.
Good point. It's possible that many here not only underrate Mawien, but also overrate Kelly.
Many here? Find me the person who would select Makol Mawien as their starting center over Curtis Kelly and I'll show you someone without eyes.
Making the conclusion that Mak is even in the same ballpark as CK based on advanced stats is exactly the thing that makes old heads freak out about dependence on stats. I don't even think Darryl Morey would make the conclusion that Mak is in the same league as CK.
Post by: Skipper44 on February 21, 2019, 02:00:37 PM
the switch to Brad’s pinwheel offense reduced CK’s post ups and Oreb opportunities but his DF rate was always 100I don't care what those dumb charts say.
Curt was 100 times the player that mak is.
To me it says Jr Curtis Kelly is demonstrably better than Jr Mak and Sr Curtis Kelly DNGAF and had a ton of regression.
Post by: DQ12 on February 21, 2019, 02:21:37 PM
everyone line up and apologize to the Bellcow. perhaps you could bring some cud for him to chew as a nice reconciliation gift.
Post by: wetwillie on February 21, 2019, 05:39:32 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 21, 2019, 05:46:21 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 21, 2019, 07:24:33 PM
. Credibility problems imho.
Post by: chum1 on February 21, 2019, 07:25:38 PM
I'd also argue that Kelly and Mawien had a similar two hand dunk technique.
Here are two very, very minor differences. MM has more tomahawk action. And CK has more knee bend when hanging on the rim. Otherwise, twinsies.
Post by: chum1 on February 21, 2019, 07:26:34 PM
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Post by: chum1 on February 22, 2019, 07:04:04 AM
worst gpc c/p ever
If you want to be anti-gpc, you've got two main choices. You can be just as ignorant and delusional, only in the opposite direction. Or, alternatively, you can NOT be ignorant and delusional, and instead use facts as the basis of your judgements.
When you look at facts here like advanced stats, two hand dunking, moodiness, and haircuts (!), you see that MM and CK are basically the same person.
Post by: ChiComCat on February 22, 2019, 08:27:27 AM
Post by: brandochav on February 23, 2019, 04:46:54 PM
damn, being validated by _Fan feels so great.Word. Suck it, ChiCat
Seems like every "[insert city/state]Cat" poster is trash.
Post by: 8manpick on February 23, 2019, 04:53:00 PM
Counterpoint: Stockard was good and Trice was awesome so maybe OSU sucks ass
Post by: CHONGS on February 23, 2019, 04:54:33 PM
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Post by: slackcat on February 24, 2019, 09:08:50 AM
Post by: wetwillie on February 24, 2019, 09:44:41 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 24, 2019, 04:00:59 PM
Stat sheet says austin trice had a much better game being used in 5 less minutes of action. I think we found our new post player to play opposite of Claws!
He had an offensive rating of 1.84 and scored at a rate of over 42 points per 100. It was ridiculous.
Post by: cas4ksu on February 25, 2019, 12:01:46 PM
Post by: chum1 on February 25, 2019, 12:14:04 PM
Sprint Center, Kansas City, Missouri
Starters MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Makol Mawien 34 13 19 .684 13 19 .684 0 0 3 4 .750 1 3 4 0 2 2 2 4 29
Post by: Cire on February 25, 2019, 01:23:01 PM
Post by: cas4ksu on February 25, 2019, 04:05:36 PM
Never forget
that was honestly a pretty great effort for the Cats in that one. No Wade. No Brown.
Just continuing to load Bellcow and watch him put Mitch Lightfoot in a box.
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 25, 2019, 09:21:12 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 25, 2019, 09:23:47 PM
Post by: 8manpick on February 25, 2019, 09:45:17 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 25, 2019, 10:10:46 PM
Soft(https://media.tenor.com/images/87d452c112f4a85c1f154f59b2b233b2/tenor.gif)
My favorite was when he got an offensive rebound but he flipped it up backwards, from nearly his hip because he thought he was going to get packed again.
Post by: wetwillie on February 25, 2019, 10:13:29 PM
OofSoft(https://media.tenor.com/images/87d452c112f4a85c1f154f59b2b233b2/tenor.gif)
My favorite was when he got an offensive rebound but he flipped it up backwards, from nearly his hip because he thought he was going to get packed again.
Yea man I was really hoping someone got a GIF of that. I was literally laughing.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 26, 2019, 12:22:49 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 26, 2019, 08:57:43 AM
[youtube]https://youtu.be/QJHUbtR0yI8[/youtube]
:lol: :lol:
Post by: cas4ksu on February 28, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
i have so many questions.
who's "the shot doctor"? is Brad Korn essentially admitting that he is incapable of rebuilding the stable on his own?
is "the shot doctor" a planted mole by KthUg?
idk
Post by: Trim on February 28, 2019, 04:50:59 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 01, 2019, 05:51:14 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 01, 2019, 06:10:21 PM
Does this year's team have a better record as DJamer as it's starting center?
Of course, DJamer was one of our best bigs in the last 10-15 years.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 01, 2019, 06:22:15 PM
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Post by: Trim on March 01, 2019, 06:51:34 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 01, 2019, 07:44:48 PM
Does this year's team have a better record as DJamer as it's starting center?
Of course, DJamer was one of our best bigs in the last 10-15 years.
Yeah, DJamer was a pleasant surprise. I won't mention again that I called it after watching his first scrimmage in 2012. Your chart helps me to know that I'm confirmed in my thought that JO is the best center we've had in the last 25 years.
I recall Djamer hating The Flush's guts, so that'd be interesting.(https://media1.tenor.com/images/6df70325906252f71c718f9e9a366420/tenor.gif?itemid=5446852)
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Post by: HELLHAMMER on March 03, 2019, 07:42:21 AM
Post by: kashi1965 on March 03, 2019, 08:36:24 AM
is there some reason oscar isn't running off all these guys? Love, Shadd, Stockard should be run off and oscar should be giving those spots to some new recruits.
we are going to the bottom of the league in a hurry. These last place recruiting classes are going to catch up to us after these seniors leave. its a completely empty cupboard
Post by: MakeItRain on March 03, 2019, 11:34:10 AM
i like mak. always have. always will.It's not really about liking or disliking Mak. He's unquestionably broken, no two ways around it.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 03, 2019, 11:37:01 AM
literally half our roster should not have a D1 scholarship. without Wade, Stokes, Brown this would be the worst roster in the league BY FAR.
is there some reason oscar isn't running off all these guys? Love, Shadd, Stockard should be run off and oscar should be giving those spots to some new recruits.
we are going to the bottom of the league in a hurry. These last place recruiting classes are going to catch up to us after these seniors leave. its a completely empty cupboard
This is literally the dumbest post ITT, well maybe not as dumb as the one before it but dumb. Our roster is fine, it's better than fine. It's two bigs away from being one of the best rosters in the country.
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2019, 11:57:40 AM
Post by: DQ12 on March 03, 2019, 04:36:39 PM
Post by: KSURFC8 on March 04, 2019, 10:12:47 PM
Mak is FINE. Everyone shut up about it.
You must be watching someone else.
He's got hands of freaking stone. He can't turn and shoot, can't take a pass and go straight up, when he tries to back his man up he usually gets backed down and his subsequent jump shot as about the same altitude as Bill Lambier or Dennis Rodman (about 1").
We're almost playing 4 on 5 on offense every time.
Post by: DQ12 on March 04, 2019, 10:14:40 PM
Yeoman’s work from the Bellcow. The haters will continue to criticize him. But through it all, he persists.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 04, 2019, 10:26:24 PM
Post by: dal9 on March 04, 2019, 10:37:54 PM
[youtube]https://youtu.be/u3qy4Zv4snI?t=60[/youtube]
Post by: Trim on March 04, 2019, 10:41:10 PM
his subsequent jump shot as about the same altitude as Bill Lambier or Dennis Rodman (about 1").
KSURFC8 rockets into my awareness as a giant dumbfuck.
Post by: catastrophe on March 04, 2019, 11:05:21 PM
5 of 6 from the field tonight with 6 boards.
Yeoman’s work from the Bellcow. The haters will continue to criticize him. But through it all, he persists.
Do you care nothing at all about the eye test?
Post by: Purple Derpathy on March 04, 2019, 11:25:59 PM
5 of 6 from the field tonight with 6 boards.Don't forget the 3 TOs
Yeoman’s work from the Bellcow. The haters will continue to criticize him. But through it all, he persists.
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Post by: meow meow on March 05, 2019, 07:19:24 AM
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Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2019, 09:01:00 AM
Post by: wetwillie on March 05, 2019, 09:02:38 AM
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Post by: catastrophe on March 05, 2019, 09:28:41 AM
Post by: KSURFC8 on March 05, 2019, 09:31:16 AM
his subsequent jump shot as about the same altitude as Bill Lambier or Dennis Rodman (about 1").
KSURFC8 rockets into my awareness as a giant dumbfuck.
Ooooh. Please tell me, if you've even noticed, how many time he's tried to back into the basket and just gotten used, lost control of the ball or committed some other atrocious t.o.. I watched at least twice, possibly three times, last night when Barry passed the ball directly to him down low, hit him right in the rocks he calls hands and the ball almost immediately went on the floor but not in his possession. and no, he can't jump worth a crap particularly for someone his size and his position. Unless he's left completely alone and/or untouched, how many times have you seen him miss or screw up a dunk from underneath the basket? Too many times.
Post by: Trim on March 05, 2019, 09:34:55 AM
his subsequent jump shot as about the same altitude as Bill Lambier or Dennis Rodman (about 1").
KSURFC8 rockets into my awareness as a giant dumbfuck.
Ooooh. Please tell me, if you've even noticed, how many time he's tried to back into the basket and just gotten used, lost control of the ball or committed some other atrocious t.o.. I watched at least twice, possibly three times, last night when Barry passed the ball directly to him down low, hit him right in the rocks he calls hands and the ball almost immediately went on the floor but not in his possession. and no, he can't jump worth a crap particularly for someone his size and his position. Unless he's left completely alone and/or untouched, how many times have you seen him miss or screw up a dunk from underneath the basket? Too many times.
I have no interest in makol mawien.
Post by: PIPE on March 05, 2019, 09:42:55 AM
Really enjoyed the sweet pass from Wade last night he got, er tried to get, under the basket. He was trying to pass it around and through his legs I guess. Don't know if he was trying to show off or what before he would of had a wide open dunk attempt, but he needs to quit trying to show off like that :buh-bye:
Post by: MakeItRain on March 05, 2019, 10:06:04 AM
not even putting his hand up on the tip last night, like we deferred
My wife WYD'd this irl when it happened.
Post by: kslim on March 05, 2019, 10:50:46 AM
Post by: dal9 on March 05, 2019, 11:34:32 AM
Mak has the unfortunate combo of excelling at the subtle parts of the game like hedging on PnRs but his shortcomings are super visible like 3 missed dunks in 1 game or not even putting his hand up on the tip last night, like we deferred:thumbsup:
Post by: DQ12 on March 05, 2019, 12:32:13 PM
Post by: bunter on March 05, 2019, 12:37:55 PM
mak should have had 17 and 10 last night but his hands and brain get into the way. i simply cant understand with hands his size how its so hard to grab a board or catch a pass. they made a huge deal about him fighting robinson for that board last night and that shouldnt have even been a contest if he was slightly aggressive. i do think he may be injured and or scared of something
is it something of this world or like are we talking demons here?
Post by: Cire on March 05, 2019, 12:43:46 PM
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Post by: mocat on March 05, 2019, 12:49:08 PM
Bellcow felt right at home in the Ft. Worth Stockyards.
:love:
Post by: chum1 on March 05, 2019, 12:59:35 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2019, 01:55:49 PM
Maybe it's less that Mawien is bad and more that 1-4 are just really good. :dunno:
Is Trice much worse? maybe
Post by: cas4ksu on March 07, 2019, 12:00:10 PM
little birdie told me that the bellcow is LICKING HIS CHOPS upon seeing OU's frontcourt. i expect a junior to dominate senior day for the cats.
Post by: cat97 on March 07, 2019, 06:36:26 PM
6 rebounds and most in traffic.
A steal plus a few other times he poked a ball away that helped lead to KSU having 5 team steals.
Good ball screen defense even if TCUs big man scored 17, Some of those scores were against other defenders and some were just great pick and roll offense by TCU. Still Mak was part of the defense that made Alex Robinson look bad when he drove into the middle.
Two bad turnovers by Mak. One on the lob from McGuirl, one on the pass from Wade. Also got called for a walk that was just a bad call where the ref did not see the ball knocked loose by TCU before Mak grabbed it again.
Not a perfect game by Mak but solid enough.
Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2019, 05:38:07 PM
Trice came for Levi and now he’s coming for mak
That didn’t take long
Post by: brandochav on March 09, 2019, 05:51:05 PM
He'll be back in KC...likely in 2nd halfTrice came for Levi and now he’s coming for mak
That didn’t take long
Post by: 8manpick on March 09, 2019, 07:07:52 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2019, 07:18:13 PM
Trice looked really good today
he and X and are like the headband wearing bash bro's thats as close to JYC as a oscar team is going to get
Post by: Purple Derpathy on March 09, 2019, 09:22:06 PM
Trice looked really good todayIf Trice could shoot 65% from the line he would probably be starting.
Then again, if Mak could just develop some type of ability to hold onto that round thing they call a basketball, we would not even be having this conversation.
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Post by: KITNfury on March 09, 2019, 09:28:29 PM
It's weird that a guy buff like dude is and presumably with giant hands can't hold onto the ball, but yet here we are.Trice looked really good todayIf Trice could shoot 65% from the line he would probably be starting.
Then again, if Mak could just develop some type of ability to hold onto that round thing they call a basketball, we would not even be having this conversation.
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Post by: brandochav on March 09, 2019, 09:32:00 PM
Bad elbows?It's weird that a guy buff like dude is and presumably with giant hands can't hold onto the ball, but yet here we are.Trice looked really good todayIf Trice could shoot 65% from the line he would probably be starting.
Then again, if Mak could just develop some type of ability to hold onto that round thing they call a basketball, we would not even be having this conversation.
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Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2019, 09:50:12 PM
Post by: Purple Derpathy on March 09, 2019, 10:44:34 PM
Mak’s issues are all mental. He is a mental midget. He’s way more skilled than trice but he’s ultra soft.No crap. Thanks for that insightful comment.
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Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2019, 11:02:01 PM
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Post by: slackcat on March 10, 2019, 09:25:31 AM
Post by: brandochav on March 10, 2019, 09:34:21 AM
I've jumped from the Makwagon onto the Tricemobile. :driving:Thats a bold move, Cotton, especially with tourney time coming.
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Post by: wetwillie on March 10, 2019, 10:03:17 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on March 10, 2019, 11:57:46 AM
Here’s hoping a little serious competition can turn mak from Gomer Pyle into a killing machine.
except. well, you are on a roll, let's go with it.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 10, 2019, 01:19:38 PM
Here’s hoping a little serious competition can turn mak from Gomer Pyle into a killing machine.hopefully not a killing machine like Private Pyle
Post by: wetwillie on March 10, 2019, 01:25:19 PM
Post by: DQ12 on March 11, 2019, 02:38:09 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 11, 2019, 03:02:12 PM
BRAD KORN said he's worried that SIU won't be able to afford him though so it's probably not an issue. BRAD should be ours for the foreseeable future. cha-ching. :cheers:
Post by: Kenneth Noisewater on March 14, 2019, 11:29:22 AM
https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article227506899.html (https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article227506899.html)
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Post by: stunted on March 22, 2019, 04:52:24 PM
Goodness, stop giving him the ball.
stop giving the ball to someone who made 6/11 14 points 12 rebounds yea good call captain dumbfuck
Post by: KITNfury on March 22, 2019, 05:52:40 PM
lolk. He had 5 turnovers the last I checked, maybe more before the game was over. Several other close turnovers. Many of his buckets came off rebounds (which is what his role is, and I'm good with). Furthermore, at the time of my post, he was playing like complete dogshit. So if your argument is that one of his career best is 5 turnovers and 14 points when there is no Wade and brown played half the game, then thanks for proving my point.Goodness, stop giving him the ball.
stop giving the ball to someone who made 6/11 14 points 12 rebounds yea good call captain dumbfuck
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 22, 2019, 06:07:32 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 22, 2019, 09:01:19 PM
Mak had six TOs. Cats had 13, so about half. But the lazy passe passes McGuirl and Sneed made near the top of the key at the start of the 2nd half that led to and-1 runouts were more maddening.
Pretty equal maddening for me.
Post by: brandochav on March 22, 2019, 09:09:29 PM
Mak had six TOs. Cats had 13, so about half. But the lazy passe passes McGuirl and Sneed made near the top of the key at the start of the 2nd half that led to and-1 runouts were more maddening.He also had a double-double and kept us in the game in the second half. Guard play let us down.
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Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2019, 09:29:22 PM
have to tear a man down so you can build him back up.
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Post by: stunted on March 23, 2019, 06:17:09 AM
lolk. He had 5 turnovers the last I checked, maybe more before the game was over. Several other close turnovers. Many of his buckets came off rebounds (which is what his role is, and I'm good with). Furthermore, at the time of my post, he was playing like complete dogshit. So if your argument is that one of his career best is 5 turnovers and 14 points when there is no Wade and brown played half the game, then thanks for proving my point.Goodness, stop giving him the ball.
stop giving the ball to someone who made 6/11 14 points 12 rebounds yea good call captain dumbfuck
he committed 1 foul which cancels out his extra turnovers, advanced stats back me up, gtfo
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2019, 11:38:27 AM
lolk. He had 5 turnovers the last I checked, maybe more before the game was over. Several other close turnovers. Many of his buckets came off rebounds (which is what his role is, and I'm good with). Furthermore, at the time of my post, he was playing like complete dogshit. So if your argument is that one of his career best is 5 turnovers and 14 points when there is no Wade and brown played half the game, then thanks for proving my point.Goodness, stop giving him the ball.
stop giving the ball to someone who made 6/11 14 points 12 rebounds yea good call captain dumbfuck
he committed 1 foul which cancels out his extra turnovers, advanced stats back me up, gtfo
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Post by: stunted on March 23, 2019, 01:35:13 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2019, 03:18:28 PM
Post by: kashi1965 on March 23, 2019, 04:59:58 PM
For the record, I think he's fine and he's progressing, which is great. At this point my biggest issue with Mak are people who overstate his impact and who call him the key to next season. He's a replacement level center who needs to stop turning the ball over.on a good team Mak needs to be a reserve not a starter. thats his biggest problem
Post by: Purple Derpathy on March 23, 2019, 05:02:28 PM
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Post by: PIPE on March 23, 2019, 07:51:28 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on March 23, 2019, 10:30:36 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 26, 2019, 09:23:11 AM
It will be better.I ride with Big Mak
Post by: wetwillie on March 26, 2019, 09:53:06 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 26, 2019, 07:35:45 PM
Post by: Purple Derpathy on March 26, 2019, 07:39:41 PM
We all ride with Mak now, he needs us now more than ever.Some tough love seems appropriate.
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Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 07, 2020, 08:45:45 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 07, 2020, 08:46:38 PM
Post by: brandochav on January 07, 2020, 09:19:29 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 07, 2020, 10:39:14 PM
Guys, Mak is a rough ridin' space cadet out there. I honestly don't think he's lazy, he just forgets he's playing basketball about once a shot clock.He’s so bad. 😞
Post by: MakeItRain on January 08, 2020, 01:00:30 AM
But more offense than Diarra...
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lol, nah
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 08, 2020, 07:51:45 AM
But more offense than Diarra...
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lol, nah
Yeah, what a weird thing to say.
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 08, 2020, 02:51:22 PM
It is a mystery how anyone could watch Mawien in practice for two years and not think, "I need to recruit over this clown."
Post by: brandochav on January 08, 2020, 03:03:21 PM
He literally scored more points than Diarra in last night's game, goofs. Comment was specific to the game.But more offense than Diarra...
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lol, nah
Yeah, what a weird thing to say.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 08, 2020, 04:51:13 PM
He literally scored more points than Diarra in last night's game, goofs. Comment was specific to the game.But more offense than Diarra...
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lol, nah
Yeah, what a weird thing to say.
You didn't say more points, you said more offense.
Post by: brandochav on January 08, 2020, 06:17:44 PM
ToucheHe literally scored more points than Diarra in last night's game, goofs. Comment was specific to the game.But more offense than Diarra...
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lol, nah
Yeah, what a weird thing to say.
You didn't say more points, you said more offense.
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Post by: DaBigTrain on February 19, 2020, 08:12:17 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 19, 2020, 08:43:54 PM
Post by: stunted on February 29, 2020, 01:53:14 PM
Post by: stunted on February 29, 2020, 02:48:55 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 01, 2020, 03:28:31 AM
Post by: PIPE on March 05, 2020, 11:36:37 AM
It came after Mawein flashed out to the wing, under no defensive pressure, to receive the most simplist of bounce passes from Diarra.........only to fumble and lose the ball out of bounds. I got up, shut that crap off, and left the man cave :sdeek: